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Speaker 2: Episode four point thirty two with Hillary Scott from Lady A.

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Speaker 2: We had Hillary and during the pandemic, but she was

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Speaker 2: Hillary Scott LA as in Lady Innebellum, not as in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Hillary Scott LA. Their new single is called

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Speaker 2: Love You Back, Here you Go. What do you think

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Speaker 2: the past. Love You Back explores the idea that while

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Speaker 2: of times we romanticize things that are done because we

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Speaker 2: if you're listening right now, stop thinking to your eggs.

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Speaker 2: Move on to that new guy. He's not as much

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Speaker 2: don't listen to that voice, lady. A Top five streaming

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Speaker 2: Number five American Honey.

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Speaker 1: Here's a whisper.

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Speaker 2: Number four, bartender, number three, what if I never get

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Speaker 2: I thought it'd be like four or five. Number one,

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Speaker 2: need you now? So? Hillary Scott born in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: is Hillary Scott from Lady A. Hello Hillary, Hello Bob.

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Speaker 1: can control, like you know, when you feed them, now

440
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: if they eat it all, Like there's all these different

441
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: things that you can control, but then there's a whole

442
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: lot that you just have to let go. And that

443
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: is not to bring this back, but it is the

444
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: compass of my life, my story.

445
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: Without my faith, I would.

446
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: Be the worst mother and wife because I would need

447
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: to just grasp everything like their lives and mind depended

448
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: on it. And so when there's a surrender and faith

449
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: in the process in the story, and a faith in

450
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: God to that He's in control and I don't have

451
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: to be, it just helps me breathe.

452
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: And I'm scared to death, Like I'm scared, and.

453
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 3: You know what that says to me.

454
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: It speaks to the unbelievable heart you have that you're

455
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: taking it seriously, like there's something really healthy in fear.

456
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: Or that I know I'm gonna screw it up. That's

457
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,719
Speaker 2: why I tell my wife, it's like I'm afraid I'm

458
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: gonna mess this up so bad, Like why I'm already

459
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: I struggle being a good husband at times because just

460
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 2: gone or I'm not you know, we've be married two years,

461
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: been together four or so whatever it is like that

462
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: to me was hard because I've never had somebody that

463
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: I cared as much about that I would actually let

464
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: it affect me to where it was bothersome that they

465
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: weren't feeling good. I never had that. I haven't now

466
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: and i've definitely, but I feel like I'm like twelve

467
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: in that development. Career wise, I'm like one hundred and ten.

468
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm Methuselaman. I mean, let's go. I got a long

469
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: gray beard. I've been through it all. But like in

470
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: that relationship part of my life, like that was that

471
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: that is still developing. I read books on it. Yeah,

472
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: I never thought it would I only want to read

473
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: like sports books. But now I just read a book

474
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: Wired for Love, which is like a book about the brain.

475
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: And I never thought i'd be that guy. And I

476
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: never think I'm gonna read kid's books, but oh my god,

477
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: but I do.

478
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: And you write them.

479
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh I did. I didn't write a kids book. I

480
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: did write a children's book. Yes. I just got in

481
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: from from Vegas like an hour ago. I was doing

482
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: the CES convention out there and speaking a couple of places.

483
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: And while I was there, there was this really small

484
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: show that Weezer came out to play as of Weezer fans.

485
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: I did not know until I got there that was happening.

486
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: And I'm right at the stage and I have no

487
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: phone out. Someone had recorded me and I got the

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: video of it. I don't have a phone out, watch

489
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm in it and I'm enjoying it,

490
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: and I'm singing every Weezer song because that was one

491
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: of my favoritess why we're my glasses? Honestly? Yes was.

492
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: I thought Rivers Cuomo was the coolest dude. He was

493
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: a nerd like I was, and I was also blind.

494
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: And so I'm watching Weezer and I'm being a fan.

495
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: I rarely get to be a fan just because of

496
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: the industry that we're in. When is the last time

497
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: you got to be a real fan of something in

498
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: the arts? It doesn't have to be music, but where

499
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: you went and you just got to go, I'm not

500
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Hillary from Lady A, I'm not Hillary the singer. I'm

501
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: just here to enjoy this.

502
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.

503
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: The first thing that pops up in my mind when

504
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: you ask me that question. So we started our tour,

505
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: the Request Line Tour, in April of last year, we

506
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: did two nights at the Rhymen, which was such a

507
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: sweet and daunting.

508
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Scary and also really rewarding way to start the tour.

509
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: But we played a Friday and a Saturday night, and

510
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: then on Sunday night, a friend of mine who's a

511
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Christian artist named Brandon Lake played the Ryman, And so

512
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: I was at the Rhyman three nights in a row,

513
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: and that night there was something about the timing of it.

514
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: I think, after giving so much of myself to these

515
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: two shows in our hometown, in this iconic venue, getting

516
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: to go and sit and just experience something that was

517
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: so inspirational and so beautiful with music that I love

518
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: and I sing in my car all the time, that

519
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: to me was the and I took my little sister

520
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: Riley with me.

521
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: That was probably the last time.

522
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: In the recent months that I felt like I was

523
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: just fully soaking up the experience.

524
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: So that would be do you feel like people or

525
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 2: were you able to separate yourself from people pointing and staring?

526
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. You know, I was so lost

527
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: in that show.

528
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to call it a show too, It's like

529
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: a worship experience.

530
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: But I was so caught up in it. I don't

531
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: even I don't.

532
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I noticed anybody else, to

533
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, and that night it was so cool.

534
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: Thomas Rahtt came out and they performed a song together.

535
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: It's a song called Talking to Jesus, and it's this

536
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: really beautiful story song about prayer and family that pray

537
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: for you, and it was awesome.

538
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: It was so much fun.

539
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: But I if they were looking, I didn't care.

540
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how free I felt.

541
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: It was like I didn't have my you know, my

542
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: phone wasn't out, it wasn't It was just free, kind

543
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: of like you explained.

544
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: And I was watching myself sing along to a song

545
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: with no phone in my hand, and I was like, man,

546
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: I wish it could be that guy more. It's my fault.

547
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm not. Yeah, yeah, it's my fault. I'm not. Sometimes

548
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: it's a little harder. It's hard to go eat and

549
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: people record us eating. My wife hates it especially like that.

550
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: But you know, but I shouldn't let that sour me

551
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: to allow myself to have like great experiences. And I

552
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: saw me and I posted on my Instagram because I'm

553
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: just like rare me no phone and someone recorded me

554
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: and it was awesome and I almost didn't recognize that

555
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: version of me to just be in that moment. Another

556
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: thing that's kind of odd about Nashville is we rarely

557
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: get to see our friends do their thing that they

558
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: are celebrated for professionally, because I'm gone on a lot

559
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: of weekends, right, And also so are my friends. And

560
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: if they are here, they're rarely here. You're like, you

561
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: guys are rarely here, right. And so Brett Elderd is

562
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: one of my top three best friends in the whole world.

563
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: And my wife and Brett and myself we probably hang

564
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: out two to three times a week, like we're that close, right.

565
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: But she didn't know. She knew he was a singer.

566
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: She had never seen him sing, and we go to

567
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: his Christmas show Lash year. She's like, I'm nervous, Like

568
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: why she goes because if this is cringey, I gotta

569
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: tell them because I've never seen him sing. And Brett

570
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: is a very is very shy, very much a mental

571
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: health advocate and deals with anxiety as do. I think

572
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: that's kind of why we bonded at first. But he

573
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: comes out and he starts singing and I look over

574
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: and she's like crying because here's this person that we

575
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: know that's doing the thing they were meant to do,

576
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: and she's getting emotional. Said, I guess that's not Cringey.

577
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: Hunt All hang tight.

578
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back

579
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: on the Bobby Cast.

580
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: Not being able to see our friends do their things

581
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: and to see them sometimes it's I'm kind of reawakened

582
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: to it. What about your friends that are so good

583
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: at music and you finally get to see them again

584
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: if it's an award show or Ashton McBride would be

585
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: another one that whenever I see her live that I'm

586
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: always like, oh my god, I forgot how good she was. Yes, yeah,

587
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: who for you is like that?

588
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think of the Cmas this year.

589
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: There are so many great performances. I mean, we so

590
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: we presented right after the Warren Treaty performed, and I

591
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: was standing backstage, yeah, with Gary the Golden Bachelor, and

592
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: we were about to walk out and we get to

593
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: like we present a jelly roll with his award, which

594
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: was such a what an epic moment. We were so

595
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: honored to be there, but listening to them and just

596
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: the pure on the pure talent gifting anointing that they

597
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: have singing together and as them. You know, individuals that

598
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: you do get reminded when you hear them in the

599
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: room live. That's why I think it's a real huge

600
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: part of my year this year to have more creative

601
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: input and output, Like I want to experience more live

602
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: music or even just all kinds of arts.

603
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: Theater. My little girl Asley loves the theater.

604
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: She's actually in a production this weekend, her first one

605
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: with this theater company she's in. And but wanting to

606
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 1: have Like as you're talking, I'm like, I want, I

607
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: want to give myself the opportunity to experience those moments

608
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: more because I know I go in and I'm a

609
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: different creative and a better creative because of it.

610
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: Not only is it good for you inside, it's also

611
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: good for you for what you're producing.

612
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And I mean as you shared that story,

613
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how much it must have meant

614
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: to Brett, for someone who doesn't really know him in

615
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: that space, but knows him who he is off stage

616
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: in a genuine and authentic way. To then have a friend,

617
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: a newer friend who is now experiencing him in.

618
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: This way the opposite way most people get to know him.

619
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: Yes, and it is the most like, oh, I mean

620
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I could cry thinking about how seen and known in

621
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: a deeper way that must have felt for him. Because

622
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: those times that that's happened in my life, I'm like, oh,

623
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: my gosh, you know the real me and you also

624
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: get to see this other side of me and celebrate it,

625
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's a really that's a very very special.

626
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: Circumstance and opportunity.

627
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: It was also like, when I watched him do that,

628
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: you just reminded and I told him, I was like, man,

629
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: that's what you were meant to do. Not that I

630
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: didn't take so many hours of work and getting better

631
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: and performances and because there's a lot of work that

632
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: goes into being great. Yes, but that is what you

633
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: were meant to do. What do you feel like you

634
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: were meant to do?

635
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Definitely what I'm doing, I mean being in music. There's

636
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: other things that I'm really really about as well. I

637
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: mean growing up in a musical home. It's funny you

638
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: asked that question. I might actually backtrack for a second.

639
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: So growing up in a musical home, both my parents

640
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: moved here from their hometowns to pursue it. It was

641
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: almost like this is what you do, Like this is

642
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: what we do. This is how I learned to really

643
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: kind of fit into my family. So and I had

644
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: the gift, like I was born with the gift to sing,

645
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: So it was what I did. I ended up growing

646
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: into loving it. I mean, for a few years before

647
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I hit high school, I was all about animals and

648
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a venarian and all these things.

649
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: But so music for sure, creative arts for sure. But

650
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: the things that are really igniting my passion and my

651
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: excitement now have a lot to do with how the

652
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: creative arts and mental help and self awareness and taking

653
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: care of ourselves to be better for each other and

654
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: our children, how those come together. So I'm you know,

655
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of reading. I'm in student mode, Like I'm

656
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: reading a whole lot about I feel like I have

657
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: to know, Yeah, which the happiest people I know in

658
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: my life have the heart and posture of a student.

659
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: My husband is a great example.

660
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he just got his master's degree over the

661
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: last two and a half years in practical theology and

662
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: watching him struggle, wrestle, but succeed and thrive was inspiring

663
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: and so I yeah, it's a long answer to your question,

664
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: but I really feel like digging into more of.

665
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: Pursuing healing really because I do think it's possible.

666
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I think that there is healing and goodness that can

667
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: happen as hard as this life can be.

668
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: For the first time, I feel like I'm not just

669
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: the guy that My identity was always the guy it's

670
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: supposed to be funny but wherever it is on the radio,

671
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: on stage, but whatever, that was just who I was

672
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 2: first and everything else was secondary. And again I think

673
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of late to this party. Of you mentioned healing,

674
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: I now feel like that's not the most important part

675
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: of who I am, just now one. I would imagine

676
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: kids probably affects that as well, But when did that

677
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: start to happen for you, because I feel like you're

678
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: so much more mature than I am, Like like.

679
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: Lights, I thank you, that's kind, but it's not true.

680
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: I would say kids for sure, But then also, you know,

681
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: I've been working on a music career since I was sixteen,

682
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: like professionally since I was sixteen. Met Charles and Dave

683
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: when I was twenty, so I'm almost thirty eight, you know,

684
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: so thinking about when you look at the trajectory of

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: a career of vocation, I mean, it's kind of like

686
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: you're hitting a midlife moment in a career before your

687
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: midlife and age. You know, it's a very strange and

688
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: so I think then you hit this point of Okay,

689
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I want to grow through this. I want to continue

690
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: to grow even though sometimes what has been created and

691
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: what exists the art that I've been a part of making.

692
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: Is seen.

693
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: You know, like the fans or other people in my

694
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: life closer to me even expect things to be a

695
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: certain way, and I'm like, no, no, I'm ready. I'm

696
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: growing like we're always supposed to grow. And I think

697
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: that's one of the hardest things about having a public

698
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: facing life, in my opinion, is just giving yourself the

699
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: permission to grow and knowing that what success looks like

700
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: might look different after that, and that that's okay, and

701
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: getting to a place of accepting that if that makes sense.

702
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: It does. When you were talking about it that it

703
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: reminded me of you guys have been so successful for

704
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: so long that I think a bit because you guys

705
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: are still in your thirties, yeah, I think a bit.

706
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: You get people in this weird industry because they penalize

707
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: you for how long you've been successful, and they will

708
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: categorize you with like some of the legacy groups, because

709
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: I think it is d Sorry I'm drunk. I'm drink,

710
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: but I'm drunk. Apparently I've been on a plane all day.

711
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know if you feel this

712
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: way at all. I feel like they hold you to

713
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: a standard based on your success of legacy groups, and

714
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: they often make you compete with your own songs to

715
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: focus and feature on your own music, and that here

716
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: you guys are you're you know, back thirty one, thirty two,

717
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: but you've been famous for so long that to them

718
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: you're a tenure success.

719
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing to see, Like had so many people come

720
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: through our shows and either send in requests or call

721
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: and leave a voicemail, and it's like I've been a

722
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: fan of yours since I was, you know, seven years old,

723
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, now you're in college.

724
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like same thing with the people said the show.

725
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so and it's a oh it is

726
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: such a privilege, Like it truly is such a privilege,

727
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's just when you are an artist

728
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: and when you've had the unbelievable gift of.

729
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: Years long of a career.

730
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: That's our Like, I feel like that's my own, like,

731
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: that's my personal work that I have to go and

732
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: talk to my counselor about and how to reconcile how

733
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: all of that feels and then how I move through

734
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: my life, because it can definitely, it can definitely take

735
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: you into a place of like wanting to always strive

736
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: to be relevant, and.

737
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: It can play games.

738
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: I can play games with my mind if I'm not

739
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: in a healthy headspace around some of that.

740
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: I feel like that they will call them gatekeepers if

741
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: it could be radio or playlist at these major places

742
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: are serious or whatever, Like you guys would be held

743
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: to a different unfair standard because you were successful so young,

744
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: and you had been successful so long. To hear you

745
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: guys are younger than artists that are new at times,

746
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: and again they're treating you like legacy ICs, where you

747
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: know we're going to play a couple of the other

748
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: older hits instead of even giving your new song a chance.

749
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: And that always bothered me for you guys, because you

750
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: would have artists that were up for New Artists of

751
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: the Year. You guys are like four years younger than

752
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: they are. You guys have been doing it for so long.

753
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: And that and you know what, that's where gosh, it's

754
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: just everybody's story. Everybody's journey is going to look different.

755
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I care the most

756
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: about is just being able to celebrate celebrate that for

757
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: those other artists and also not let the upset and

758
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: downs the successes that you know, what people think your

759
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: successes or failures within are my career doesn't change my

760
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: innate value as a human being.

761
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: I think, you know.

762
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: And that's the part where it's like when you're when

763
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: you're a striver, when you want to pursue things and

764
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: go after it with all you've got, a lot of

765
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: times your self esteem can like rise and fall on that.

766
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: And again that's my work to make sure that that

767
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't. That I wake up every day and go no,

768
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: just being me, just being ill, you know, and and

769
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: not and every day it's not that. I mean, it

770
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: is hard sometimes multiple multiple times a day. But back

771
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: to kids, they keep me in check because they don't

772
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: give a fly on who what I do.

773
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: Because because I'm mom and.

774
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: They're hungry, or they want me to come play, or

775
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: they need me to, you know, help them take a

776
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: bath or you know, it's just it's It definitely.

777
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: Brings things back into few perspective.

778
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: I find that most of my creative friends and I'm

779
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: friends with, we all bond over neurosis, like heavy neuroses.

780
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: Me Brett, I don't know if you know, Ben Rector

781
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: like we are. We are together all the time and

782
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: we're all like for different reasons. We're all extremely neurosis quirky,

783
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: hopefully lovable gentlemen. And the one thing that we have

784
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: in common is we eyeball ticket sales and the day

785
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: of to see if people don't like us, and we

786
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: all wish we didn't because we will, you know, renounce.

787
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna announce a fifteenth theater tour, I'm gonna

788
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: go do stand up. I will. At ten oh five,

789
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: I'm clicking looking and if they're not selling, I'm like,

790
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's over. People don't like me, They're

791
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: not coming, They're not Do you do you or did

792
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: you ever do that?

793
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: That?

794
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: No? Really, I mean and I definitely paid attention to

795
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: the chart early on specifically like when we were first

796
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: starting and I still don't understand some parts of it

797
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: and how it works the way that it works, but

798
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: I would ask I mean, I definitely inquired and asked questions,

799
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: but but I definitely lean on the side of we

800
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: create the art, we do our part to show up,

801
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: to perform it, to promote it, to continue to nurture

802
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: the relationships that help propel it forward, and then ultimately

803
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: got to like, you gotta let it fly kind of,

804
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's got to fly.

805
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: The nest and then see where it goes.

806
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: That's just been more of my personality now I know,

807
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, my bandmates probably would answer that question very differently,

808
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: which is probably why all of the ways that we're

809
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: different make what we do so fun so great.

810
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 3: But no, I mean that's.

811
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Something I think, and maybe it's not totally out of

812
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: help that I just was like, oh, I'll just find out,

813
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's a bit of a not knowing

814
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: is less scary.

815
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: What was you you and your mom's relationship, like when

816
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: you were deciding you were going to do this for real?

817
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: It's a great question. They wanted me to get a degree.

818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: My dad more than my mom, probably, but they wanted

819
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: me to get a degree. So I went to college

820
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: and then ironically met Charles and Dave two and a half.

821
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: Two years in to getting a degree. I was probably

822
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: on a.

823
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: Five year plan from being honest, just because I was

824
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: writing so much in town and was taking kind of

825
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: the minimum hours per semester. But you know, I think

826
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: she wanted me. And this is how I feel about

827
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: my girls. I want them to pursue their dream. I

828
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: would never deter them from doing the same thing I'm

829
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: doing if that's what they want to do, if that's

830
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: what they feel more than what they want to do,

831
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: what they feel called to do.

832
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: But she was always supportive, always.

833
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: Supportive, and and protective at times, probably wanted me to

834
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: ask more questions than I did early on, But I

835
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: think that she really gave me the space to find

836
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: my way and then has been an unbelievable cheerleader.

837
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back, m This is

838
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 4: the Bobby Cast.

839
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: So your names, though have never been obviously Hillary Scott,

840
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: her name, Linda Davis, what's the name, what's the real name? Situation?

841
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: There is that really her last name?

842
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: So her maiden name is Davis, got it, and then

843
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: my dad is lang Scott, and so then my sister

844
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: and I, you know, their two daughters, and.

845
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: So she's kept her maiden name.

846
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: Was there ever a time where you thought, maybe if

847
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: I got why Davis, people will know that, Like what

848
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: about the because your mom definitely well known, especially in

849
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: town and also in country music. Did you ever think

850
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: you wanted to use that to your advantage or was

851
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: it you just so didn't want to use that.

852
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what If it's it's the I was

853
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: an only child for fourteen years, but I'm first born

854
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: of two. I don't or maybe it's my own stubbornness

855
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: or pride. I never wanted it to appear like I

856
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: was writing their coattails at all. I wanted to establish

857
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: my own, you know, my own path, which always included

858
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: their colleagues because they had been here and been a

859
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: part of so much of what Nashville has been doing

860
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: for so many decades. But I never wanted to ride

861
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: their coat tails. I mean, I was like, probably stubborn

862
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: to a fault with that. I would have been like,

863
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: no way, am I gonna not because I don't love

864
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: my Davis family. But I was like, no, I'm Hillary Scott,

865
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: and we'll see. I want to see how this goes.

866
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: It rises and falls on on.

867
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: Mebe and me.

868
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: What did you think think before you met Charles and

869
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: Dave your career was going, if you could have chosen it,

870
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: what did you think it will be?

871
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: I honestly, I had gotten a development deal the year before,

872
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five with another label in town,

873
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: and I had showcased for that label March of two

874
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: thousand and six.

875
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: They passed.

876
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: We had packed it out, the showcase felt like it

877
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: went great.

878
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Victoria Shaw was producing me.

879
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: We had We've had strong songs, and we even got

880
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: great feedback.

881
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: From the label.

882
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: But by the next morning they had said, no, we've

883
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: decided to go with another artist.

884
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: So I met the I met Charles and Dave two

885
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 3: months later.

886
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: Like after that, no, after that first big kind of

887
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: industry career heartbreak, I meet the two of them, I

888
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: think I would.

889
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Have probably.

890
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: If not for me, them just tunneled way into songwriting.

891
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if a solo artist career from that age,

892
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have handled it. I

893
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: just have always thrived in collaboration, in community and friendship

894
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: and being able to work together with people as in

895
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: kind of being a part of a team. I would

896
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: like to think I could have, but I think I

897
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: would have felt so alone, lonely, and I just really

898
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: enjoy collaborating.

899
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: With the two of them.

900
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: So I think I would have written a lot, and

901
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: then if given an opportunity, I would have jumped. But sustainability,

902
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

903
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's really interesting to think about.

904
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: Whenever you think about you now, so you're trying to

905
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: make it a solo artist for whatever reason that doesn't work.

906
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: Timing probably it's always weird timing. But then you meet

907
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: these two and where they they were already together. I

908
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: mean they already were buddies rightway.

909
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: They were, Yeah, because they've known each other since middle school,

910
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: right Yeah.

911
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: But now you're going from I'm going to be a

912
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: solo artist who I'm possibly going to be a third

913
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: of something. What kind of mental gymnastics did you have

914
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: to do there?

915
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: Meaning like sharing it?

916
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's you on stage, it's you when you're

917
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: the solo artist.

918
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 1: I I don't think I I don't think I really

919
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: thought about it.

920
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: It was.

921
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: This what we're doing is so creatively invigorating and fun.

922
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: And this feels so natural, even though it's new, even

923
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: though we communicate totally different, and we're figuring out how

924
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: to become friends while we start a banded and start

925
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: a business. I just it was fun and it was

926
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: it felt right, not easy, you know, And I think

927
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: being naive and young, I was so young, I didn't

928
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: know any different, you know, and I just knew what

929
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing. These songs.

930
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: This friendship that's growing just feels like where I want

931
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: to be.

932
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Whenever you guys start to become a unit, even if

933
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: you haven't taken it out yet. Was it going to

934
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: be we are going to be us three, We're going

935
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: to have a name, nobody's names on it? Was that

936
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: always the plan? Or was it you know, okay, we'll

937
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: write the songs you think? Was that always it? We're

938
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: going to be a trio, let's go.

939
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: So it happened so organically because I'm at Charles. He

940
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: mentioned Dave that they had just moved up day from Atlanta,

941
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Charles from North Carolina to start writing songs.

942
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: We start writing.

943
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: The first song we ever wrote is a song called

944
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: All We'd Ever Need that was not originally a duet

945
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: and they would say that, Like Charles I think had

946
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: spoken to Dave to say, hey, this artist Hillary.

947
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: She has some traction.

948
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: She just had a development deal but it fell through.

949
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: She's got great songs. Maybe we can write for her.

950
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Because they were kind of in that same They were

951
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: in that headspace of we want to write songs, we'd

952
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: love to get cuts. Charles was doing some songs some

953
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: shows on his own, I think, opening up for his

954
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: brother Josh here and there. But I think they came

955
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: into it thinking we'll write and she can, maybe we'll

956
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: write songs for her. Well, then we wrote all we'd

957
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: ever need and I was like, this is a duet,

958
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: like you've got to sing the second verse. And so

959
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: then when that happened and then the harmonies came in.

960
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: That was how it just kind of continued to evolve

961
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: into a trio.

962
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: The first showcase you guys did, do you remember it?

963
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

964
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: How'd that go?

965
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: Awkward?

966
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

967
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: It was so awkward being on stage.

968
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean I had done Family Christmas Show at Apryland

969
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: for three years, like I'd done Christmas songs, but actually

970
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: performing like with a the band original material was so foreign

971
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: and new to me. So being able to learn how

972
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: to you know, interact with him.

973
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: With Charles and Dave on stage.

974
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: This it was Third and Lensley and it was before

975
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: they renovated, and the stage was literally about the size

976
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: of the space right here.

977
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: It was so tiny. So Charles is.

978
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: Sixty six, I'm five to nine, Dave six ' to one.

979
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: It was a whole lot of like almost decking each other,

980
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, with arm moves. So it was awkward, but

981
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: it was fun. It was exciting.

982
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: How did it go?

983
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: It went good?

984
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say Josh Kelly, Charles's brother,

985
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: had us open for him, and then then we kind

986
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: of got a standing gig like every few weeks at

987
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Third and Lindsley. And then Josh went and did a

988
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: show in North Carolina at this open air kind of

989
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: amphitheater let us open up for him. I mean, so

990
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: many things just started happening that we were like, how.

991
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: In the world is this happening? And we just kind

992
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: of show up.

993
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: We say, yes, how long until you guys get signed?

994
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: So we met in May of two thousand and six,

995
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: played our first show in August of that year, and

996
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: we signed our deal. We started negotiating our deal in

997
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: February of two thousand and seven. Officially signed the contract

998
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: in the summer of seven, and love Don't Live Here

999
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: Anymore came out fall of seven.

1000
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: It went fast.

1001
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: When I was considering moving here, there's no way you'll

1002
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: remember this, So don't don't have like you do. You

1003
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: won't remember it. Whenever I was considering coming here because

1004
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: there had never been like a national country show before,

1005
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: and I had built my own company over in pop

1006
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: and I built my own syndication company and spent my

1007
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: own money and had made it work. But again, I

1008
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: was getting a bit of flag because I would have

1009
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Willie on my pop show or Eli Youngband or Dirk's

1010
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: or and they would go, well, you have an accent.

1011
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: When I was in a bunch of markets, but they

1012
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: were like, you kind of sound like a hillbilly on

1013
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: a pop station. You know. That was kind of And

1014
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: so I was like, Okay, we'll go to Nashville. And

1015
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: I came to you guys shooting some promos and I

1016
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: sat and you guys were so nice to me, and

1017
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: I was I was just a dude that was sitting there.

1018
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: Where were we in some sound stage? You guys were

1019
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 2: so nice to me and it was. It was really

1020
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: one of the contributing factors to me going, you know,

1021
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: this feels uncomfortable because I'm giving up something that I built,

1022
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: but I feel like I can do some like I

1023
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: think it'd be naturally more me to do this. But

1024
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: I just remember how nice you guys were to me

1025
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: and going, man, if that's what people are like, They're like,

1026
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm in that's so kind. Yeah, so and I don't

1027
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: even know. I wish I knew what you guys were doing,

1028
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: but you guys were And then McGraw was there too,

1029
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: who McGraw obviously older, way older, but like legend, and

1030
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: I remember him coming up and being like, what's up? Man?

1031
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: And I was like, what's that? What? What planet are

1032
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: these people? But you guys were so kind to me.

1033
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: And I don't think I've ever told you guys that story,

1034
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: but it really factored in to me moving here because

1035
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: of that. I just have a couple of questions, final

1036
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: questions for you here. And we talked about the new

1037
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 2: music you guys have put out and before you got here.

1038
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: But I was at a restaurant down near where our

1039
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: dogs are, and I saw this guy, really good looking,

1040
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: chiseled guy, get an earring in dressed extremely fashionable. I

1041
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: was like, that guy's got to be somebody, and he

1042
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't turn around. But he was so just strikingly handsome

1043
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: and had on just the exact like right that I

1044
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: would never be able to pull off. And so I

1045
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: was like, I need to stop staring. So I walked

1046
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: over to get my drink and he comes over and

1047
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: he grabs him by the shoulders. He goes Bobby and

1048
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: it's one of the guys from for King Country. Yes, yes, yes,

1049
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: and with who I really like, and we have our

1050
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: own text thread the Bone Family. Yes and so but

1051
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: are you have something coming? Yeah? Their movie is happening.

1052
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: That's right, And did you do something with them?

1053
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: I did? Okay, So it was it Joel or Luke Joel?

1054
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: So yes, they asked me. So we collaborated on a song.

1055
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: I featured on a song called for God Is with

1056
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: us on their last record and had so much fun.

1057
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: We had kind of reached out to each other over

1058
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: the years since my Christian project in twenty sixteen about

1059
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: doing things together. It just never worked out. They send

1060
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: me the song that I already knew because I was

1061
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: such a fan. So I sing on.

1062
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: That song with them.

1063
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 1: Well, then a couple months later I get a call and.

1064
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: They're like, so, we're shooting this movie.

1065
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: We've written the story of how our family migrated here

1066
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: from Australia. Crazy story, by the way, is unbelievable, right, unbelievable,

1067
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: and we need Someonehillary, dear Hillary, to sing and play

1068
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: the role of the worship leader in the church that

1069
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: we started go into when we moved to Nashville. So

1070
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I am lol Aanne Lilianne Meese is my character's name.

1071
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: It is a It's such a small role, but such

1072
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: an incredible opportunity to kind of dip my toe. Oh

1073
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: my gosh, I had so much fun. Again, it's just

1074
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: being a part of a team, being a part of

1075
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: a cast. I am definitely still so much more comfortable

1076
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: singing than speaking on camera. But it was a great

1077
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: experience and I got to screen the movie a couple

1078
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: months ago.

1079
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: Comes out April twenty sixth.

1080
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: It is an unbelievable film just about the resilience of

1081
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: family and how they just dug in and went through

1082
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: just such highs, such lows, but stayed together. And their mother,

1083
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, who's the true Miss Helen is the that

1084
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: she's the unsung hero.

1085
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's who the whole film.

1086
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: Is really honoring and about, and I highly encourage everyone

1087
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: to see it because it's it's powerful.

1088
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: Parallel as well. They you know, their sister was famous, yes,

1089
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: and they were like, we are not our brothers sister.

1090
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: They didn't weren't. They weren't saying we're not, but they

1091
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: just that was not their thing, right. They wanted to

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Speaker 2: go and see if they had what it took to

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Speaker 2: They're awesome. They are like, it's next level.

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Speaker 1: They bring the the bells and whistles of any pop

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00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: show you can ever imagine they bring to their shows.

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00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: And the music is so dynamic, and the producers that

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Speaker 1: they work with, like sonically it's just so interesting. And

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Speaker 1: they're they're amazing. They're such incredible people friends. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I'm very very grateful for the small bones.

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Speaker 2: That watching them perform because I knew them before I

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: saw them perform. It was like, I don't know those

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: aliens performing on stage because those rock It was it

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Speaker 2: was crazy to watch how good they were.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our

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Speaker 4: sponsor h Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: Final question, what do you hope people say behind you

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Speaker 2: find your back m M.

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Speaker 3: I would say my hope is that I hope that

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Speaker 3: people would say that I'm kind.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, you know, have I have my moments where anxiety

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00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: or stress or something that I'm preoccupied with gets the

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Speaker 1: best of me. But that I'm kind, and that I

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Speaker 1: think that you know that my own personal prayers for

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: growth over these last few years is just to be.

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Speaker 3: Kind no matter what and to grow in wisdom.

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Speaker 1: So I think that would be the other hope as

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Speaker 1: I get older, continue to get older, is that.

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Speaker 3: Something I said mattered to them?

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Speaker 2: Is that kind of We'll just use the word Monserrat's

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Speaker 2: easiest for everybody? Is that kind of it? To be kind?

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Speaker 2: Is that mine is don't complain?

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good.

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Speaker 2: Like I really try not to complain because it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean no good. It does no one else any good either,

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Speaker 2: So I try not to complain. Is yours to constantly

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Speaker 2: try to But it's hard, by the way, I don't

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Speaker 2: do a good job up all the time because I

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Speaker 2: complain like crazy? But is that what it is for you?

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Speaker 2: To just try to be kind? Because you don't know

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Speaker 2: what everybody or anybody else is kind?

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Speaker 1: Of going through yeah, to be kind and also and

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Speaker 1: know that like that that doesn't it doesn't always come easy,

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Speaker 1: dependent on the dependent on where you are in your life,

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Speaker 1: but that it's always the better choice. I'm always more

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Speaker 1: I always go to bed at night with more peace

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Speaker 1: in my heart. And you know one thing I've been

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Speaker 1: saying to my girls a lot lately, when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about sharing or you know, working through things with friends,

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Speaker 1: it's like, and this isn't in a you pursue perfectionism

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Speaker 1: kind of way, but it's like, go make a choice,

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Speaker 1: Go do something that you think would make God smile.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what I want them. I want that

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Speaker 1: motivation to be for them. That's my prayer for them,

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Speaker 1: is like, hey, let's go make people smile, but let's

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Speaker 1: make God smile with the way that you're treating your friends,

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00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself and experiencing life.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned earlier, Love You Back a love song.

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00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: You guess follow both Lady A and Hillary Scott LA

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Speaker 2: which seems like Los Angeles, but I know it's Lady Ah.

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Speaker 2: I do, I do, But every time I see it,

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Speaker 2: I think it's like Hillary's got Los Angeles. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just a massive fan of you as a person and

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Speaker 2: the band obviously, but I have such a different relationship,

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Speaker 2: Like Dave is the reason that I even went on

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Speaker 2: site and had a lot of like, you know, there

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Speaker 2: was I was going through some stuff, But I have

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Speaker 2: a different relationship with all of you guys so distinctly

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01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: and different and then all together as well, and you're

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Speaker 2: all like, it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Like I wanted

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Speaker 2: to punch Charleston's face a few times and him me,

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Speaker 2: but but that even makes us better friends, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's real. Yeah, And Dave has been like right in

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Speaker 2: my ear in times where I've been like hey, man,

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01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: like that guy is solid. So I'm a big fan

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Speaker 2: of you, big fan of the group. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: coming in and spending the time you and you guys.

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Speaker 2: You're done with a tour though, right for now? Will

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Speaker 2: you do a tour where you take no request and

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Speaker 2: only do songs that people have never heard of? Because

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Speaker 2: that would be opposite if it would the other way,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: What, That would be creatively really exciting for me and

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Speaker 1: possibly very boring for the fans.

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Speaker 2: We'll see only deep cuts, but not even your deep cuts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: deep cuts from your favorite.

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Speaker 3: Artist, other artists that would be hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.