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Speaker 1: what the toll that that could have on people and families.

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Speaker 2: I mean, hearing that, my first thought is like that

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Speaker 2: is like could be two cars for a family, like

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, oh my goodness. Well, as you said,

439
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Speaker 2: now you have two healthy boys and you are, as

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Speaker 2: you also said, arguably in the prime of your career.

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Speaker 2: So do you have any tips that you would offer

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Speaker 2: when it comes to quote unquote juggling both going after

443
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Speaker 2: these athletic pursuits and being the best mom that you

444
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Speaker 2: can to your boys.

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Speaker 1: There's no secret I wish there was. You need help

446
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Speaker 1: and you need support, and I'm very fortunate to have that.

447
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Speaker 1: You know, athletically, I've had the support of Hoka for

448
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Speaker 1: the last five to six years, and they paid me

449
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Speaker 1: through pregnancy. You know, they never forced me to come back.

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Speaker 1: They never cut my contract, which is very unusual in

451
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Speaker 1: the professional running world. But I think they are kind

452
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Speaker 1: of setting the tone and standard for what can be

453
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Speaker 1: done because they saw value in the fact that, well,

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Speaker 1: let's give her a chance and let's see, like if

455
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Speaker 1: she can come back, and then the better you come back,

456
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Speaker 1: the more that it incentivizes them to realize, Okay, like

457
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Speaker 1: women can take a break in the middle of their

458
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Speaker 1: careers and they're not totally done, but we do need

459
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Speaker 1: the support, you know, and the financial means to do so.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, like my team coach Ben and Jen

461
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Speaker 1: Rosario took a chance on me realizing could she come

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Speaker 1: back from pregnancy and be the best, you know, athletically,

463
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Speaker 1: And then having my husband Ben kind of do everything

464
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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. I mean, we're both like, like I said, say,

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Speaker 1: at home parents, and he does all the cooking in

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Speaker 1: our house, like he gets our meals. He helps coordinating

467
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Speaker 1: getting the boys to school when I'm going to practice.

468
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Speaker 1: He's also the official pacer of our team. He helps

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Speaker 1: manage like the different coaching business we have running with

470
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Speaker 1: the Bruces, he's been involved with piggy bars. So the

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Speaker 1: truth of it is, you can't do it alone and

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Speaker 1: you have to have that support system. And that's really

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Speaker 1: the only way that I've been able to get to

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Speaker 1: where I'm at today and have the opportunity to even

475
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Speaker 1: have the success that I feel like I'm having.

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Speaker 2: How do you let go of some of maybe the

477
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Speaker 2: expectations or the hopes that you would have knowing that

478
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Speaker 2: you literally can't do it all.

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Speaker 1: I just have this conversation and letting go of expectation

480
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Speaker 1: that moms, women should feel guilty when they ask for help,

481
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Speaker 1: because we realized there was this like dichotomy of Okay,

482
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Speaker 1: so if you have a baby, then why do you

483
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Speaker 1: need childcare? Shouldn't you just not work? And shouldn't you

484
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Speaker 1: just stay home with your baby? Like why do you

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Speaker 1: want to have a baby if you want to have

486
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Speaker 1: a job or a career. So I think it's kind

487
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Speaker 1: of just getting rid of those like norms or the

488
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Speaker 1: social contructs constructs that have existed for so long and

489
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Speaker 1: realizing you can be multifaceted. You know, moms can stay

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Speaker 1: at home, dads can stay at home, you know, same

491
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Speaker 1: sex marriages, like there's so many different ways that a

492
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Speaker 1: family can look and realizing you don't have to fit

493
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Speaker 1: into a box. And I think once I let go

494
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Speaker 1: of what I considered like mom guilt of Hey, I'm

495
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Speaker 1: trying to pursue these big dreams and goals, but I

496
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Speaker 1: also have my two children at home. I'm going to

497
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Speaker 1: miss something in their life. But hopefully when they grow

498
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: up they look back and say, wow, like my mom

499
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: was really setting an example of go after your passions,

500
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: pursue your dreams, because they realize like that fills me

501
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: with so much purpose. And I can only hope that

502
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Speaker 1: my boys find something in their life that they're like

503
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Speaker 1: truly passionate about pursuing.

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Speaker 2: I think something that's been really special this week as

505
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Speaker 2: I talk to so many different women, is just this

506
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Speaker 2: takeaway that your children or your child like they're watching you.

507
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Speaker 2: So what you're saying about living your life with purpose

508
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Speaker 2: and finding something that fulfills you, it's just as important

509
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Speaker 2: as it could be to you know, from one person's

510
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: point of view, be there all the time as it

511
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: is for you to come home and walk into this

512
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Speaker 2: house with so much satisfaction and pride and who it

513
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Speaker 2: is that you are and what you are doing and

514
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: who you are becoming continuously as a role model for them.

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Speaker 2: Something I would love to touch on with you as

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Speaker 2: long as I have you is dealing with injury, because

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Speaker 2: I feel like it kind of goes hand in hand

518
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Speaker 2: with that conversation we're having around the idea of compassion.

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Speaker 2: I know that over you know, the last twelve fourteen months,

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Speaker 2: as you've been on this build up and excelling, you've

521
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Speaker 2: also been navigating times where you had to take a

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Speaker 2: step back and kind of take a chill pill. So

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Speaker 2: what advice would you have to offer to someone who's

524
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Speaker 2: approaching a similar hurdle moment in their time right now?

525
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Speaker 2: How have you kept that conversation positive and moved forward

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Speaker 2: trusting the process when your body has hit some of

527
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Speaker 2: those hurdles along the way.

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Speaker 1: I think you need to have that zoom out lens.

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Speaker 1: So zooming out meaning every time something happens to us

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Speaker 1: in our life, we think it's the worst thing ever.

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Speaker 1: We think we're the only ones that experiencing it. It's

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Speaker 1: never going to end, you know, we catastrophize it, size

533
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Speaker 1: it a bit, and like a running injury specifically, you're

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Speaker 1: like I'll never get out of pain. I'll never get

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Speaker 1: back to where I was. And I did that like

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Speaker 1: a little bit this last December when I was diagnosed

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Speaker 1: with inner fasciitis. And then here I am, you know,

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Speaker 1: five months later, and I just came off running a

539
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Speaker 1: personal best in the half marathon because I think I

540
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Speaker 1: got over like having that pity party for myself and

541
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Speaker 1: realizing this isn't the end, this is just a roadblock,

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Speaker 1: and you sort of ask yourself like why do we

543
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: face obstacles in our life? And why do we have challenges?

544
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Speaker 1: And I think they're just a test and they're teaching

545
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Speaker 1: us like to grow, And so I always try to

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Speaker 1: search and be like what can I learn from this,

547
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Speaker 1: Like did I do something wrong in training? Was I

548
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: obviously injuries come from stress? Was I stressed physically from training?

549
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Was I stressed mentally and that creeped into my body?

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Speaker 1: So injuries are actually a really great like to give

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Speaker 1: you like a self reflection to be like, Okay, what's

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Speaker 1: going on in my life? Where do I need to

553
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: show up more or be present? Yeah? Advice for people,

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Speaker 1: I would just try to like let yourself off the

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Speaker 1: hook a little. If an injury does happen and realize, hey,

556
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Speaker 1: it's probably your body's way of saying I need a

557
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Speaker 1: break from something, and then figuring out going forward, how

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Speaker 1: can I make sure this doesn't happen again.

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Speaker 2: So does motherhood. When you look at the past for

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Speaker 2: five years of being a mom, if you had to

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Speaker 2: reiterate maybe one or two of the biggest lessons, and

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Speaker 2: I know that just reiterating one or two is like

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Speaker 2: asking you to like, I don't know, say the alphabet

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Speaker 2: backwards off the top of your head. But if you

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Speaker 2: you'd lead into?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think what I have learned is our

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Speaker 1: children offer us a mirror into ourselves. So sometimes like

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Speaker 1: they ask questions that they're just learning about the world,

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Speaker 1: and then when you have to answer, you're like, well,

599
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: how would I answer that? You know, it starts with

600
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: like why is the sky blue? And then it progresses

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Speaker 1: to where do babies come from? And you're like, dad,

602
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: come on in for this question, you know, But then

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Speaker 1: they get then they get like they get serious in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways. You know. I think when there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of unrest in the country of the

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Speaker 1: last couple of months and we're driving by marches and

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Speaker 1: they're asking, mom, what does black lives matter mean? And

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Speaker 1: then I explain that to them, and you have to

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Speaker 1: start to explain things like racism, and then they're just

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Speaker 1: all these complexities that you're like, it makes you like

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Speaker 1: really like shine a light on yourself and say, how

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Speaker 1: would I answer these questions? And they're just coming from

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Speaker 1: innocent five and six year old children. But in a

614
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: way like it's a privilege to be able to answer

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Speaker 1: those questions because I am shaping their world, and when

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Speaker 1: I look at like the bad things that happen in

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Speaker 1: our country, you almost want to be like, could you

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Speaker 1: dumb it back to like what people are learning in

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Speaker 1: their homes, and if we could teach everyone the right

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Speaker 1: things to do, would all these awful things be happening?

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to believe no, because I'd like to

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Speaker 1: believe humanity can find a way to teach the right

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Speaker 1: things to our children. So then they grow up and

624
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Speaker 1: when they're presented with those challenges, they think back, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what I learned from mom and dad, and

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Speaker 1: this is how I'm going to show up, you know,

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Speaker 1: as a good human being out in the world.

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful perspective, I mean, what an amazing takeaway,

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Speaker 2: amazing takeaway from what you've learned being a mom. When

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Speaker 2: you reflect now on perhaps some of the advice that

631
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Speaker 2: you have exchanged with moms over these past thirteen fourteen months,

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Speaker 2: anything come to mind of something that's been super helpful

633
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Speaker 2: and helping you get.

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Speaker 1: By for sure? Yeah, I mean I think just like

635
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Speaker 1: it's more that like giving yourself that break, because it

636
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Speaker 1: does it can feel really overwhelming, you know, being a

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Speaker 1: parent and answering questions and thinking am I doing enough?

638
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Speaker 1: Am I showing up for them? Am I balance in

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Speaker 1: our household? Do they have like food on the table,

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Speaker 1: Do they feel loved? Are they showing other people kindness?

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Speaker 1: Because you let them out in school and you're like,

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Speaker 1: how are Riley and Hudson treating other people? Like I

643
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Speaker 1: know how we're treating them, And you just hope they're

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Speaker 1: taking all the good that we're teaching them and they're

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Speaker 1: they're showing up in the world that way. But it's

646
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Speaker 1: scary because you don't know that, and you realize you

647
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: can't protect them from everything. So sometimes it is just

648
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Speaker 1: like taking a deep breath and realizing, hey, I can't

649
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: control everything. I can just put in the best effort

650
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: and try to be the best version of myself each day,

651
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: and that might look differently, like some days the best

652
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: version might be twenty percent of Stephanie, and then another

653
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: day I might be like, I am nailing this day.

654
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: Here's one hundred and ten percent Stephanie. But realizing that's

655
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: so fluid, and that has taught me about like mental health,

656
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: because the mental health component, as I've seen with family

657
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: members that have struggled, you know, when they fall into

658
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the comparison trap and they think they're not achieving what

659
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: they should be compared to their peers. Or people at

660
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: their age, it can get really dangerous and scary. So

661
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: just finding that like self fulfillment and realize we have

662
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: a lot more control like over our happiness than we think,

663
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: and to not let that external pressure really really like

664
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: affect us as much as it can.

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00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: You mentioned the word comparison, and I think this obviously

666
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: kind of like brings us into highlight real territory and Instagram.

667
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, being someone who definitely found a platform on

668
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Instagram and was able to connect with other women and

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00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: talk about the things that you're going through. I'll bite messy.

670
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: How do you kind of pick and choose your battle,

671
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: so to speak of when it's a helpful tool and

672
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: when you might need to kind of walk away from

673
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: it for a little bit.

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00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't ever feel like I need

675
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: to walk away from it because I have a really

676
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: healthy attachment to my self worth has my self worth

677
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with my times and races, my performances,

678
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: my social media followers. My self worth has to do

679
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: with what do the people in my immediate circle think

680
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: about me? Am I being a good wife? Am I

681
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: being a good mother? Am I being a good daughter,

682
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: A good best friend? You know those people's opinions. I

683
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: always say I care about the people's opinions, whose opinion

684
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: I would ask? So when you think about that, like,

685
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you would never ask someone randomly on social media, how

686
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: do you think I'm doing in life? Or do you

687
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: think of me? I think I'm a good runner. No,

688
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: you would never ask that. But you can look at

689
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: you can look at social media as a positive way

690
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: to connect people that are like minded than you. People

691
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: that want to make the effort, people that want to

692
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: learn how to start their own business, people that want

693
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: to be part of social change, people that want to

694
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: like improve their running, people that need help with like

695
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: tips and parenting. So I just I use it as

696
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: a vessel for good. And the only negative is if

697
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: I think you let the opinions of people that don't

698
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: really matter to you affect you on a daily basis.

699
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I just I feel bad for

700
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: those people. People that come on social media and are

701
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: negative and have bad things to say, they must be

702
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: in a really bad place. So it it never I

703
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: never take it personal. I just think, hey, you know,

704
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I wish them the best and I wish they can

705
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: they can find their own happiness or purpose.

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00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: What a beautiful answer, And in that answer you highlighted

707
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 2: things that you do and roles that you have from

708
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: mother to runner to business owner, philanthropists, like just so

709
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: many things that you're doing. Out of all of the

710
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 2: things in the multi hyphen it that often follows your name,

711
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: what would you say perhaps excites you the most right now?

712
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm depending on when this comes out. I'm about

713
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: seven weeks from the Olympic track trials and I'm trying

714
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: to make my first Olympic team, which I've been trying

715
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: for ten years. But you know, that's what all eyes

716
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: are focused on right now. And then we had some

717
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: exciting news about Picky Bars come out recently, and then

718
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's hard to pinpoint one. But

719
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: the way I'm looking at it is I know that

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00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: I will look back in like five to six years

721
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: and be like, this was the most awesome time in

722
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: my life. Like, I'm healthy, I'm pursuing my dreams and goals.

723
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I have my husband been alongside me, I have two beautiful,

724
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: healthy boys. You know, I have friends, a team, a family,

725
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: like people that are really rooting for me and supporting,

726
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: and I just feel like I'm going to look back

727
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: and be like, this was the best time in my life.

728
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to have that perspective, like right now.

729
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: You said ten years. When you're going at something for

730
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: that long and you hit those hurdles along the way

731
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: as you have what is the inner dialogue? What's the

732
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: do you have a mantra that you go back to,

733
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: like what keeps you going after more?

734
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: It's just like I say this like in every podcast,

735
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: but it's like a stubborn belief in my and I

736
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: use like the tagline you got to bed on yourself

737
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: because if you don't, who will. And I think that

738
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: is what's It's what's gotten me through many like hard

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00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: times in my life, where you know, in high school,

740
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Speaker 1: when my father passed away, I was on a run

741
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: and I was supposed to go see him. He was

742
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: really sick with terminal cancer and I was about to

743
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: like go visit him. I went for a run, but

744
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: then I came back and he had actually died while

745
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I was on that run. And so like running kind

746
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: of then like change the trajectory of my life and

747
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: I realize running was something that I get to do

748
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: and not that I have to do, and I took

749
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: that mindset back to my senior year of track, and

750
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: I made some huge breakthroughs because I just started believing

751
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: in myself more. And so, like my father passing away,

752
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: it was a blessing in many ways because I chose

753
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: to like find the good in my life and take

754
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: a path that maybe was a little more challenging. But

755
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: so we're and then I've just had so many like

756
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: things along the way that have reaffirmed that. I was

757
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: almost forced to leave college because after he passed away,

758
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: our money essentially ran out because his business went bankrupt.

759
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: And then an anonymous downer read about my story and

760
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: decided to fund the rest of my college career in

761
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: this amazing I don't know angel act, I don't even

762
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: know what you call it, but I was just so

763
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: fortunate that my life has always been kind of like

764
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: why me, Like why am I so blessed with all

765
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: these opportunities, And so it's just forced me to be

766
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: on this mission of how can I give back and

767
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: how can I make my life worth it and kind

768
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: of pay it forward? And I think that's what keeps

769
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: me going when either obstacles hit or if I haven't

770
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: reached a goal. Yet I'm like, well, there's still something

771
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: left in me, and I'm sure I can eke out,

772
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, another few years trying to pursue it.

773
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: So interesting to hear you share that perspective in the

774
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: why me from like the positive spin, Like I am

775
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: so fortunate despite in that same breath, sharing so much

776
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: loss and dealing with all of these hurdles. And we

777
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: recently talked about, you know, your recent injury and whatnot.

778
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: And it's such a beautiful thing because it's a growth mindset, right,

779
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: So for someone who struggles to find the growth mindset

780
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: like you have clearly adopted in your life, do you

781
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: have any takeaway, any piece of advice that you might offer.

782
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Them how to find that growth mindset? Yeah, I mean

783
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: find people that have the same mindset and like attach

784
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: yourselves to them. I mean when I, like I said,

785
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: I met Lauren Fleshman and Jesse Thomas over ten years ago,

786
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: and like we immediately just like share that you know,

787
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: they were both pursuing their athletic careers, Lauren and track

788
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: and Jesse and trathlon, and we just talked about like

789
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: what live in an awesome life like really meant to

790
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: us and pursuing these crazy goals and dreams, you know.

791
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: And then recently I met a woman named Tiana Bartiletta

792
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: last year via the internet, but we happened to be

793
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: in the same sport for the last couple of years,

794
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: never met, and it was just like we were like

795
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: instant friends because we both pulled out a notebook and

796
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, you keep your goals and dreams

797
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: in this notebook, like me too. So I think just

798
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: like putting out like your visions and your passion will

799
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: attract the right people. And the older you get, I

800
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: think the more confident that you're like, well, I can

801
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: walk away from the people that are not getting it

802
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: and don't get me and walk towards the people that

803
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: are instead of like trying to convince people that maybe

804
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: aren't the best in your life like why you're important

805
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: or why you know your voice matters, and just gravitating

806
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: towards the people that do. So I definitely think just

807
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: find your people, essentially, and you may have to look

808
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: a long time for them, but once you them, the

809
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: opportunities are endless of what could happen out of those friendships.

810
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: What's that saying? It's like you're the sum of like

811
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: the five people closest to you. Yep, absolutely so for you.

812
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: I mean you just mentioned the importance of finding people

813
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: that have similar values to you. If I asked you

814
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: right now to like throw in two, three, four values,

815
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 2: hit me with some.

816
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: Of them showing up for people not just when they're

817
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: doing well, but when they're not doing well, and I

818
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: think like anticipating before they're not doing well. That's been

819
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: really important to me because I think people remember like

820
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: when you showed up for them. And another value is time,

821
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: because you can't put a price tag on time. And

822
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: I've learned that, you know, most recently with my mom

823
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: is sort of near the end. She has a terminal

824
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: metastatic breast cancer, and you just start to look at

825
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: things like things that you will miss or things that

826
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you won't have in your future. And so right now,

827
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: time is all I can give her and all you know,

828
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: I can ask from her. And I think the last

829
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 1: one would be it's kind of a combination of being

830
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: humble and humility, because no matter what you do, what

831
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: you achieve in life, if you forget like where you

832
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: came from, and you forget all the things that helped

833
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: you get to that place. I think it really that

834
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: success or like that end goal isn't worth it if

835
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: it ever becomes if it ever changes who you are.

836
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: So you know, no matter like what successes all have

837
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: in running or winning races or making teams, you know,

838
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I realize someone can always be better than me, or

839
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: I could always learn to do something better. And I

840
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: think that keeps me grounded, humble, and yeah, having humility,

841
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: because life is such that in an instant something could

842
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: change and it flips so you're on top and then

843
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: you can be on bottom the next day. And I

844
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: think if you are humble about it, it allows you

845
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: to really like just enjoy what you're doing and not

846
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: get too caught up in kind of the end goal.

847
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Showing up time staying humble. Earlier, you mentioned your boys

848
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: being like a mirror to you. So now that I've

849
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: asked you about your values, and you think maybe about

850
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: the last year or two with your boys, has there

851
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: been a moment where you've just been so proud that

852
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: they have exhibited one of these values.

853
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they recently started playing they recently started playing baseball,

854
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: and without us even like pushing them into it, they've

855
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: really gravitated towards what like teamwork and cheering for the

856
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: people means. And we actually took them to a Diamondbacks

857
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: game and it was like the first time things were opening.

858
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: And my oldest son, Riley, was lucky enough to get

859
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: a game ball from the left fielder, which was amazing.

860
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: And the game was against the Colorado Rockies, and in

861
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: the bleachers in front of us, there was a family

862
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: who was clearly Rockies fans and a young boy was

863
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: probably seven. When the Diamondbacks like pulled into the lead,

864
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Speaker 1: that boy started bawling and you can tell like he

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Speaker 1: was just like his team was losing and he was

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Speaker 1: so sad. And Riley looked at like this extra ball

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Speaker 1: that he had gotten from the warm up. They also

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Speaker 1: gave him a ball from like the bullpen, and he

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Speaker 1: walked over, walked down to that family and he handed

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Speaker 1: the kid from the Rocky team and he said, here's

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Speaker 1: this ball. And I just was like, that's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he gets it, like he just he saw a defeat

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Speaker 1: for someone else, and he was like, how can I

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Speaker 1: fill this kid's day with purpose or how can I

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Speaker 1: make a difference? And I mean that was it for me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what a great story. What a great story, What

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Speaker 2: a proud moment for you, I'm so sure. Well, as

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Speaker 2: we wind on here, I always like to take a

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Speaker 2: moment to reflect on one of the biggest lessons maybe

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Speaker 2: you've learned upon your journey. Right now, you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice. You talked

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Speaker 2: about that difficult time finding out you were pregnant for

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Speaker 2: the second time at first, not really sure what to

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Speaker 2: do with that news, and having a little trouble struggling

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Speaker 2: to kind of find your place in how to move forward.

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Speaker 2: Right now you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

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Speaker 2: piece of advice at that time. What do you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: Man, I like, give my mom like crap for this,

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Speaker 1: because she always says this quote and I'm like, Mom,

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, Like she says, everything happens for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm like, no, sometimes things don't happen for

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Speaker 1: a reason. But the more I look at that quote,

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Speaker 1: I like it in ways because yes, everything happens for

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Speaker 1: a reason. But then you do have the ability to

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Speaker 1: make choices, and you do get to choose paths along

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Speaker 1: the way, and you can see things happen to you

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Speaker 1: and say Wow, that's really negative. Why me? Why does

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Speaker 1: this always happen? Or you can say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: someone must think I'm strong enough to handle it, like

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Speaker 1: how can I move forward with this adversity that I'm

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Speaker 1: dealing with? So I think I learned that at a

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Speaker 1: really young age, Like, like I said, when my father

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Speaker 1: passed away, I was eighteen and I was all alone.

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Speaker 1: I was in New York, away from all my family,

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Speaker 1: all my friends, my brothers. I didn't make it to

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Speaker 1: see my dad and my stepmom, And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: this has got to be No moment could ever be

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Speaker 1: worse in my life than being like alone finding out

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Speaker 1: my dad died. And so instead of saying like why me,

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Speaker 1: I said, well, thanks Dad or whoever made this happen.

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Speaker 1: Now I will never feel like I can't handle anything

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Speaker 1: because I was strong enough in that moment to like

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Speaker 1: move forward. So I kind of go back to that

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Speaker 1: event many times when things get hard, and I just say, like,

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Speaker 1: you have already been been here, You've already been presented

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Speaker 1: with obstacles. Just figure out how you want to react,

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Speaker 1: you know, to this moment right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, my heart and my prayers are with you and

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Speaker 2: your family as you're going through everything with your mom,

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Speaker 2: and I'm also cheering for you and your build up

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Speaker 2: to the trials, and I'm so grateful for your time

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Speaker 2: and so much amazing, so much amazingness in this episode.

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Speaker 2: How do that the hurdlers keep up with you? How

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Speaker 2: do they follow along with you? Give me all the details.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So I have a website, Steph Bruce dot com,

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Speaker 1: and then you can find me on social media. It's

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Speaker 1: actually all my maiden names, so Twitter and Instagram is

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Speaker 1: Steph Rothstein. But usually if you if you so Steph Bruce,

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Speaker 1: it would come up. And then yeah, you can follow

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Speaker 1: my team in a z elite for all like race

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Speaker 1: stuff and going into the summer in the trials, and

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Speaker 1: then of course Pickybars dot com for any of your

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Speaker 1: nutrition goodies.

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Speaker 2: Of course I have to ask you, do you have

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Speaker 2: a favorite Picky Bar? I do, yes, Okay, what is it?

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Speaker 1: Flavor is cinnamon rollin and that's what I eat pretty

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Speaker 1: much before all workouts and all races.

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Speaker 2: I had that one yesterday. I liked it. I'm a

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Speaker 2: smooth cafeater.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily a body and at hurdle podcast,

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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.