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Speaker 2: Congratulations?

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Speaker 3: The way you wanted to buy the flat?

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Speaker 2: Why do you want to buy the house?

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Speaker 2: Why does he want to buy this plan?

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Speaker 1: Congratulations?

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Speaker 3: So why did you want to buy this house?

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Speaker 1: Congratulations?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Tell me where you wanted to buy this place?

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Speaker 2: Congratulations? Tell them where you want the worst place?

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Speaker 4: Congratulations?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, why why did you want to buy this place?

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Speaker 4: Congratulations?

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Speaker 1: So why did you want to.

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Speaker 2: Buy the place? Congratulations?

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Speaker 4: Thank you to tell me why you want to smilest place? Congratulations?

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Speaker 4: Tell me why did you want to buy this place?

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Speaker 2: Tell me why you wanted to file this play?

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Speaker 1: Why do you want to buy this place?

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Speaker 2: Why did you want to buy this place? Why do

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Speaker 1: Do you want to buy the house? Why did you

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Speaker 2: It's been in the works for a while, if we're

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Speaker 1: How's it going? Skeets awesome being here? Man.

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Speaker 2: But today is a perfect day. I talk to you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how long did this book take to actually write?

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Speaker 5: And now you have kd who who is very active

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I just started on interviews started.

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Speaker 2: All right, well time, Well, if it's half as good

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Speaker 2: there you go, that'd be awesome. This Barkley, the definitive

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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble, Independent bok independent bookstores. Highly recommend that

444
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: if you can grab it there. Tim, thanks so much

445
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: for jumping on here. Any quick thoughts on WrestleMania, Yes.

446
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: But they're not not quick thought And Charlotte though just incredible.

447
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: I'm still thinking about that. Just an amazing freagain. But

448
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: those two champions did it there. That's why I love

449
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 5: for wrestling so much, honestly, that match in particular.

450
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, making my way through it slowly. I was gone

451
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: all weekend, but slowly making my way through eight or

452
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: nine hours of WrestleMania matches. But there's been some beggars,

453
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: so it has been good.

454
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot of content, yeah, a lot of Yeah, it's.

455
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: A lot, tim Thanks so much, man, I'm glad we

456
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: finally made this happen. Continued success with the Next to

457
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Loone book and we'll talk to you again soon.

458
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Skeets. I appreciate it.

459
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: Take care awesome everyone. We're gonna tear a break and

460
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: when we come back, Jerome will join me here in

461
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory. We'll go for last night's games and

462
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: the biggest news. Don't go anywhere. Sounds like my buddy

463
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Grish could have used those socks on our hiking trip.

464
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, and well he got some blisters. Oh no,

465
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 2: he absolutely got some blisters. So yeah, we should get

466
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: him hooked up there with some socks. Welcome back to

467
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory. We got my guy Jerome Changs swigging

468
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: through here to talk to about how you doing doing well?

469
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I think now recovering for as hard a

470
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: weekend as you. Yeah, but we had a pretty deep

471
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: one in Houston, and we had the air screening, we

472
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: had the live show. I shout out to the stream

473
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: team also that joined us for the live show too.

474
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Did it work?

475
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: It worked? It kind of worked.

476
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: We had a few audio hiccups, okay, but I think

477
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: they saw you.

478
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: You were clear good. I'll tell you what. I'm not

479
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: watching it. Yeah, Kelly awesome. The crowd amazing from what

480
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: I heard. The technical difficulties would have me pulling my

481
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: hair out. You know, I don't deal well with this

482
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: type of thing. Okay, but it worked, but it worked.

483
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: It worked, So thank you everyone for joining us. And no,

484
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: you know, we survived the weekend. And I mean we

485
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: didn't even mention the game itself. We went to the game.

486
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to the game.

487
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: We went to the game.

488
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Well, you had a cranky, tired, skeatzy sitting up in

489
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: the three hundred level at a championship college basketball game, right,

490
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: And all I said going to the game, I remember

491
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: was like, this thing better be close, yes, because if

492
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: it's not, I'm getting the hell out of here and

493
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: going to bed.

494
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: We had a reassessment, We had our own mini halftime show,

495
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: asking how long we're going to stick around, and.

496
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: You're just like, I mean again, we're not diehard college

497
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: basketball fans. It was really cool to be there, seventy

498
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: thousand plus and that was well, like I couldn't believe allowed.

499
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: The crowd was so loud, very pro San Diego State crowd.

500
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: It felt like seventy five percent to twenty five percent there.

501
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just like a lot of fowls.

502
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of timeouts, not a lot of buckets made, well,

503
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: not a lot of buckets, and you know, Yukon and

504
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: control most of the game. And we did say what

505
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: there was like ten minutes to go in the second half.

506
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: Yukon had been leading for a good chunk of it,

507
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: and we said, let's give it five more minutes. Yes,

508
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: and if Yukon extends this or it maintains this lead,

509
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: let's get the hell out of here. But that's exactly

510
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: when San Diego State made the run and then got excited.

511
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: One could argue we may have switched the game up.

512
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: We made this.

513
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Last the idea of me getting out of my seat

514
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: based on well.

515
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: It was first the Yukon hardcore fan in front of us.

516
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this guy like two or three rows ahead

517
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: of us, Yukon fan, I mean, congratulations to him, and

518
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: he was with some family. Every time Yukon scored or

519
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: did something good, he would get up and do the

520
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: most like aggressive like almost like turning around and like

521
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: taunting everyone, even though no one in our area was

522
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: like really no, like cheering all that hard for the

523
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Aztecs or anything. It was just weird. Trey Kirby was

524
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: convinced you want to fight him?

525
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, there was absolutely no reason, like you would

526
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: assume like with such a passionate crowd like this would

527
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: be a section that would require him to like really

528
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: step up because San Diego fans are like going into

529
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: right nobody, nobody, nobody, like.

530
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: I get standing up cheering on your team. But it

531
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: was this like.

532
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Like really like right, how like I don't know it

533
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: hits a three and just like yeah, how about it?

534
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Like who wants to fight? Like who wants who wants this?

535
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: Like nobody want.

536
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: Trey wanted to fight him?

537
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, Trey was like at one points, like he literally

538
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: turned around and stared at me. They were like, I know,

539
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: it's really weird. But then the funny part is he

540
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: disappeared at halftime and never came back to his sea

541
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: though we were convinced he was going down to the

542
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: floor and trying to sneak in somehow, Like this was

543
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: an old man with a funny wig on face paint right,

544
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I believe he had some Yukon face or something. My

545
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: congratulations to him, and that's been great night.

546
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: How old are we like my age?

547
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think, I mean, I don't know he was old.

548
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: He was there in age and he was weird.

549
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: But here this is the one thing my other takeaway

550
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: from the game. A lot of drunk old people, right,

551
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: A lot of drunk old people, like you're not like

552
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: not young kids all like you would just imagine like

553
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: off the Rocker.

554
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: They were all the old people, but everyone up at

555
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: the top. JD. I actually casted you we have a

556
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: photo of this guy.

557
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this like this is all he did and but

558
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: like he would like really turn around to our section.

559
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: This is likely off of a mainly up Yeah, I.

560
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: Gotta know what happened to this guy. This guy's passed.

561
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: Also with a commanding lead. There's literally nothing. It's punching

562
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: down at this point. Yeah, but I mean, congratulations to him.

563
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: He must have had a wonderful night.

564
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, good autumn. Good and a congrats to the UKON fans.

565
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: Did you have a fun time in Houston? Because you

566
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: were there a little bit longer, longer than I was.

567
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: I was there about eight hours, that's right.

568
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was a good time, very hot coming

569
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: from Toronto to the humidity of Houston. But all in all,

570
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: I got to visit the Museum of Fine Arts. Is

571
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: it good? Oh it's gorgeous, so good, but all no, Yeah,

572
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: and then the guys joined. We saw that screening of

573
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: Air Yep, that was a good time.

574
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: Sounds like a good movie.

575
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: It's a good movie, well worth watch.

576
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: And We'sion well yeah, we had.

577
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: It was a good would So we're gonna wait does

578
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: it come out? Soon?

579
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: Comes out? I think this Friday?

580
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we were all.

581
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: Watching Session over in the lobby as we were waiting

582
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: for our Rat four that didn't pick us up.

583
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, so we've heard about this if miss

584
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: rapt four that only took three Okay, so let's get

585
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: into last night's games a little bit here. I think

586
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: we'll look at the playoff picture, and then we got

587
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: to talk a little Nick Nurse, especially you could being

588
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: a Raptors fan up in Toronto there, because that was

589
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: a story that broke right after you guys did the

590
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: podcast on Thursday. So we'll start though with Joel Embiid

591
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: leading the seventy six ers past the Celtics as Doc

592
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: Rivers declares the MVP race over. I want to know

593
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: if he did the vince what he said it.

594
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: I didn't see the I very much doubt that he

595
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: did that. But the thing which almost gonna be a

596
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: self burn on that is just the MVP race is

597
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: either over because Joel Embiid seals it here, or it's

598
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: been over this whole time because Nicolo jo Kich had

599
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: it already online.

600
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but no, no. I lot of timing is

601
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: everything Treys talked before about when it comes to the

602
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: MVP race. Get an early lead if you can yeah

603
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: like really abbit, which sort of Yokic did. And then

604
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: in addition to that, if you can obviously close and style,

605
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: which Embeid is doing here at least in this game.

606
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: Now people will say. Yeah. Some people will say, well,

607
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: he ducked yo kicch in the one game, he got

608
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: beat by Jannis in the other, and then he has

609
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: this monster gaving Onst. Celtics and it was incredible, and

610
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: we'll break it all down. But you know, have your

611
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: best games at the end. That's not going to hurt

612
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: your chances. Fifty two, thirteen to six, a couple of

613
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: blocks in a in a win that they pulled out

614
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: of their ask at the end they nearly gave away.

615
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, shadow PJ.

616
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: Tucker, Holy Holy PJ.

617
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: Tucker is opening the corner, open in the corner three

618
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: for three. Yeah, but uh yeah, I think what you're

619
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: saying there, like the recency bias is like very much

620
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: heavily in Joel's favor, although it's still Yannis is like

621
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: there under the radar putting up huge numbers. Yeah, looking

622
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: at the games played on the season, I guess that

623
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: would factor in. Yokich is sixty eight, Joel at sixty five,

624
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: janis sixty three.

625
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: I think it like, I agree with that. It's but

626
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: Yokic missed a bunch of games there right at the

627
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: no he did play in last night's loss. He only

628
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: played twenty five minutes. It felt like it was like

629
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: they played them just sort of get the rust off

630
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: them a little bit as they gear up for the

631
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: final week here and into the postseason. But it's not

632
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: as glaring as I thought it was once going to

633
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: be right right in games played like, yeah, who knows

634
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: if youk plays the rest of the games, does he

635
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: crack seventy?

636
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 5: Uh?

637
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: If he does, he just does and these other guys

638
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: are not that far behind.

639
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: Well that, I mean, that was where I was kind

640
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: of heading to. It's like I would think, oh, that's

641
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: what's going to fatter in, but not at all really

642
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: like it is pretty much a toss up at this point.

643
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: It's the narrative. You choose that right now, So.

644
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: Which one do you choose? I mean, that's what we

645
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: do want.

646
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: No duns at this point right now really has me

647
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: looking at Joelle as like such a heavy favoriten't heavy favorites,

648
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: ex favorite like a favorite. Yeah and yeah, you just

649
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: like look at games like this and especially recent ones

650
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: where it's not just like the big numbers that he's

651
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: putting up, but it's also the defense that he's playing,

652
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 3: like Clutch plays in in some of these games, and

653
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: I think that two way part is there. I think

654
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: the Jokic fatigue is probably real. I agree the conversation

655
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: around the All Star Game was really all about whether

656
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: Yokic deserves that third and if anything, if you're coming

657
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: off of that and you're heading into this stretch here

658
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: where Joelle is clearly looking like a front runner at

659
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: least like post All Star, and that might carry him

660
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: the rest of the way.

661
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna bring this up with Tim and

662
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: I forgot to. But like, this race does feel a

663
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: little reminiscent to the eighty nine to ninety MVP race,

664
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: one of the tightest in NBA history. That is the

665
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: one where Magic edges out Barkley by just twenty two

666
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: points overall. Okay, MJ finishes third that year. Now I

667
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: wonder if that's going to be the gianness here. It's like, right, well,

668
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: here's the best player, but he finishes third. He's already

669
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: had a couple at that point Barkley in that year,

670
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: which is very strange. I don't think what happened this season,

671
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: but maybe Barkley received more first place votes okay than Magic,

672
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: but Magic had more overall points because people had obviously

673
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: probably had Jordan above Barkley there in their in their

674
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: final tally, maybe that would be really weird. You imagine

675
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: the uproar, Like I don't know, Embiide has more first

676
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: place votes, it still.

677
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't illustrative of how this season has been in the

678
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: debate for it to end up that way. And I

679
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: mean you mentioned you honest, like, if anything, it's the

680
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: votes that go to Jannis that may spoil what happens

681
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: for the top two.

682
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that's possible. Yeah, it's a good point too. It's

683
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: just like could be almost evenly split first place votes,

684
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: and then it gets like this will be it could

685
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: ultimately be decided by like where you're putting these guys

686
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: second third? Will people be crazy and not have any

687
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: of those three guys one two three?

688
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 3: I bet somebody, somebody.

689
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: I bet you somebody will have you know, a Tatum

690
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: in there or something like that, which I think would

691
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: be insane, but I bet it happens. So yeah, it's

692
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: gonna be close. Like I'm at this point here now

693
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: with it, like I just don't I almost don't care

694
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: who wins. No, like who are wins? You're not gonna

695
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: be able to go like what they hi.

696
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: They're all deserving.

697
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: It's just what just pars it any way you want.

698
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna look at the record or the game's played,

699
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: or the efficiency for yo Kic, or of course in

700
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: bed not having one like that is sort of fun.

701
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Yokic would have two. Jannis would have two, you know,

702
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: and be the third big man of this group. He

703
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: would finally have one. I'd like that. Then you could

704
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: convince me Jannest like, hold on, why are we forgetting

705
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: about him? They have the best record, you know, especially

706
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: when he plays like I don't. I just don't care.

707
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Pick whateveryone you want, and we'll just see where the

708
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: majority lies. Like you can't really cry after that.

709
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of seasons, I think, like when you

710
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: hear an uproar, it is due to some specific type

711
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 3: of narrative that like upsets you versus what you feel

712
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: is like maybe more of a merit based situation. In

713
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: this case, here you have three convincing merit based cases

714
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: and three convincing narratives as to why, yep, any of

715
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: them deserve it. So I think at this point I'm

716
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: with you. It's more. It's if anything, it's more I'd

717
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: like to see the result, to see like what's more

718
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: telling of what voters of value the.

719
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: Most and just how much they don't want to possibly give.

720
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: You'll kitch a third in a row for sure. And

721
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: I think, again, this is a different story a month

722
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: ago when it looks like possibly the Nuggets are going

723
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: to have the number one seed maybe overall, and you

724
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: know they've fallen off. There's no doubt about that part

725
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: of it. You'll getch missing. So maybe that like Bolsters

726
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: is MVP case, it's like you get into that whole thing.

727
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: But the Bucks are gonna have the best record here,

728
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's wrapped up. You know, they have fifty

729
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: seven and twenty two is their record, and you got

730
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and then the Sixers there fifty two wins,

731
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: so that could come into play.

732
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: He catches the two spot. There's still enough games like that. Good,

733
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: it's possible.

734
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean again, yeah, after last night's obviously crazy game,

735
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: and just like I don't want a gloss over that

736
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: and b twenty to twenty five from the floor, twelve

737
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: to thirteen at the line, just the second player in

738
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 2: NBA history to record at least fifty points, ten boards,

739
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: five assists in a game shooting eighty percent or better

740
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: from the field. The only person in history to put

741
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: up those numbers with that efficiency is Wilt Chamberlain. He

742
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: did it twice in the late sixties and b does

743
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: it last night in a game against the Celtics. Now,

744
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: no jail In Brown, no Robert Williams the third, but

745
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a monster they had no answer for.

746
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: And I love the play like late in this game

747
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: where he just like posted up sort of Grant Williams

748
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: around the free throw line a little bit extended, give

749
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: me the damn ball that got it to him and

750
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: he just spun blue by Grant Williams. There was no

751
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: one at the rim and he just dunked it down.

752
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Now again, they almost gave it all up at the end,

753
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: some crazy fouls, some great shot making from the Celtics.

754
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: They hold on though, Like that to me was like,

755
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, the one not gonna be the half the

756
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: time is like, well he tires a little bit late.

757
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: You know, he's a big guy. I mean, that's a

758
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: tough spot for him. You got to get the ball

759
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: to a big guy like that. Jesus. That was like

760
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: he's doing that in the playoffs, like they're a legit

761
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: threat and then I think that was a big statement

762
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: win from them. Again, some Celtics players not in there,

763
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: but the Sixers need to know we can beat them

764
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: m hm. Because they're gonna see each other in the

765
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: second round. Like it's it's a done deal at this

766
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: point that they're gonna meet in the two three in

767
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: the second round.

768
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the lack of Robert Williams I think really hurts

769
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 3: the next one here. But like that is like that's

770
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 3: what allows for a play like that. I mean, Joelle

771
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: Eban's automatic in the mid range a few like the

772
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: last possessions heading into it, just like hitting every shot possible,

773
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: it opens up that opportunity that when Grant Williams comes

774
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: up on him, easy spin gets that dunk there. But

775
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: it's one of those things you know, again we were

776
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: talking about the MVP a narrative, like it's almost like

777
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: a visual thing. At that point you see something don

778
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: and it's like it's stamping it. Like that is the

779
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 3: moment where like a doctor Rivers can say the MVP

780
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: race is over.

781
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always forget that. The Sixers, like after every win,

782
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: it feels like they have somebody with an MVP sign

783
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: du out there marching around like they really push for it,

784
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: and good on them, and maybe he gets one here

785
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: just for basketball references, MVP tracker in case you're curious,

786
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it. Brought this up in a while.

787
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: A little shock that's still yo kich is a sixty

788
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: percent probability or the chance according to their numbers. And

789
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: you know they're taking in like previous voting results and

790
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: all that, but yoll kitch sixty percent, just shade under

791
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: fifty nine point seven then and beat at fourteen point

792
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: three percent and their honest is at nine point one percent.

793
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: He's a two time MVP and having a better yeah,

794
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: a better season. It's it's one of those things where,

795
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: if anything, the numbers may actually skew it more than

796
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: it should.

797
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Yep. All right, let's move on here to some of

798
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: the Western Conference results last night. Okay, we had the

799
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: Suns clinching a playoff spot. They routed the Spurs one

800
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: fifteen ninety four. They still haven't lost with Kevin Durant.

801
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: That is a wild litter wrinkle going on here. There's

802
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: six and zero Korean pool combined for sixty four as

803
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: the Warriors beat the Thunder one thirty six twenty five,

804
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: gave up a ton of points in the first half,

805
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: rallied in the second. That was an important win for them. Lebron,

806
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: he hits a game winner, He lifts the Lakers past

807
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: the Jazz in overtime. Probably should have never got to overtime,

808
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: and that could come back to bite the Lakers in

809
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: the ass tonight when they played the Clippers. That's right,

810
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, back to back. I don't think we know

811
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: yet whether Ad and or Lebron are playing, that's right.

812
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: Lebron said post game that he'll see how he feels

813
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: in the morning.

814
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did mention like the overtime minutes were not

815
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: like a yeah, good thing.

816
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: It was not a good thing.

817
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

818
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: I think he was expecting to play only thirty to

819
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: thirty two minutes. He definitely played a lot more than

820
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: that that night. And then, like the big thing is

821
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: also Anthony Davis has not played a back back since November, right,

822
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: and this is a key game against the Clippers coming

823
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: on tonight.

824
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: There's a huge game between these two teams, especially when

825
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: you get into tiebreakers. The Kings beat the Pelicans one

826
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: twenty one, one oh three to clinch the playoff, oh

827
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: excuse me, the Pacific Division title. And then we had

828
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: Ant and Kat helping the Wolves get a much needed

829
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: win because they had been losing here, they had lost

830
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: three in a row. But they beat the Nets one

831
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: oh seven, one oh two. So Suns win, Warriors win,

832
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: Thunder loose, Lakers win, Jazz lose, Kings win, Pelicans lose,

833
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: and then the Wolves win. Playoff picture. Let's just see it, JD.

834
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Throw it up here, because you know, while most of

835
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: the field has sort of sorted, especially when we get

836
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: to the Eastern Conference, we have this log jam still

837
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: in the West. Five teams I believe, the Warriors, Clippers, Lakers, Pelicans,

838
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: and Wolves. They are still vying for the fifth and

839
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: sixth seeds. So it's a tight race there. Those are,

840
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: of course, the seeds to get you out of the

841
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: play and just actually into the playoffs. All five teams

842
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: within two games of each other. Complicated web of tiebreakers,

843
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: they'll do your fucking head in, Like, don't even try

844
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: and figure out.

845
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: I'll just trying to figure it out during the for

846
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: a second, how exactly would go.

847
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: It's almost pointless because we'll just wait.

848
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: And see what happens once we get there.

849
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do wonder, and you're seeing other people

850
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: write about this and talk about this, could we see

851
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: an opportunity for some high jinks with the fifth and

852
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: sixth seed, because again, Sun's basically locked in there at

853
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: that four seed for the most part is looking like it.

854
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: I think you'd want to avoid them. But is it

855
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: possible to have any like seed manipulation to avoid getting

856
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: that fifth seed so we don't have to play Phoenix

857
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: and probably rathering have played a team that hasn't been

858
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: in the postseason a long time in Sacramento.

859
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: It's it's a real like f around and find out situation, right,

860
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: But the thing is with how tight it is there,

861
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: like to lock specifically the sixth seed and avoid falling

862
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 3: into the plane at the same right right like.

863
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Or even out. Yes, it is hype, it's a real

864
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: it's still possibility.

865
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: It's a possibility. It's one of those things that I

866
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: think of anything, you try to win out as much

867
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: as you can and lock position, maybe even somehow get

868
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: some sort of home court situation. But like I, if

869
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this, yes, I understand the Suns are

870
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: incredibly hot right now. If they remain healthy, could be

871
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: a contender. At this point, the Kings are untested. The

872
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: funny thing is the Kings have been more of their

873
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: team than the Suns have been at this point.

874
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get into this thing like, Okay, yes, the

875
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: Sons haven't lost with chemis shit, But hold on, shouldn't

876
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: you want to play them sooner rather than possibly later

877
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: because well, they only just get better.

878
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fighting between like them figuring out

879
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: their chemistry versus them staying healthy. Yeah yeah, and uh

880
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 3: and then so when you're looking at it this way,

881
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: if I'm any team, I think just focus on like

882
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: because you also don't want to lose your momentum yep,

883
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: right going into the playoffs too.

884
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: So the answer is no, the answers is, the.

885
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: Answer is no for me personally also because like you said,

886
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: it's I cannot figure out the math right now to

887
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: figure out like if I like just do enough to

888
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: get me into the six, do I accidentally run myself

889
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 3: at risk of knocking myself out of the playoffs.

890
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: Entire right right, because you know, the MAVs hypothetically still alive,

891
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: Jazz getting back there now. But yeah, but even just

892
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: the being in the play in. I mean, it's the

893
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: classic one game thing, depending on where you are, of course,

894
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: in the play in, where you know, just somebody gets

895
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: injured in the first quarter or you just have a

896
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: bad shooting night and like suddenly your season is blown

897
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: up and you didn't get in there. I'm with you.

898
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to play Phoenix, but I'm sure as

899
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: he'll still want to be in the playoffs. You give

900
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: myself a chance to be Phoenix. If again, if that

901
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: comes down to like just missing the playoffs completely or

902
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: pushing myself into the back end of the play in,

903
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: maybe this comes into play like in the final night

904
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: of the regular season. Sure, but right now it's like, yeah,

905
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: too early.

906
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy to say we're only a few days out

907
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: from the end of the season, but it is still

908
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: too early to make that kind of move.

909
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go to the East. Bogdanovic twenty six

910
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: leads the Hawks past the Bulls one twenty three one

911
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: oh five. That's a big win, though the Bulls clinch

912
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: a playoff. Excuse me, play in birth because Donovan Mitchell

913
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: scored forty three to lead the Calves one seventeen, one

914
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: point thirteen over the magic. Butler led the Heat to

915
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: win over the Pistons, and then Siakam scored twenty two.

916
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: He led the Raptors over the Hornet. So there again

917
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 2: is the playoff picture. We have one official playoff series set.

918
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's Cleveland. It's New York Calves Nicks. We've

919
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: been saying it for a while that that was going

920
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: to happen. Lock it in very excited for that potential series,

921
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: especially with what Donovan Mitchell is doing right now, which

922
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: I think is going like completely under the radar. The

923
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: guys scoring forty like for like four straight games.

924
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, it's it's I mean, it's one of those

925
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: things where Cleveland has been like a really good story

926
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: all season out here in the four seed. Everything has

927
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: like worked out as well as it can work out

928
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: with that Donovan Mitchell signing and now yeah, it's really

929
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: just a matter like Donovan Mitchell in the playoffs, Evan

930
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: Mowlee like he's kind of flying under the radar too.

931
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 3: At the same time, they're playing really well, right, they're

932
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: playing super well.

933
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and fifty wins there as we saw there on

934
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: the screen. I'm excited to see like those two editions

935
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: in the offseason last year or trades whatever youone call him,

936
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell going to the Cleveland and then brunts him go

937
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: into New York comeing Likena. Who's gonna be the star

938
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 2: in that series? I think that's gonna be a long,

939
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: long series and a really fun one. And just so

940
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: everybody knows, because I keep saying this, because I'm not

941
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: convinced everybody does this. Play in tournament, you got the

942
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: seventh seed, play in the eighth seed. The ninth seed

943
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: plays the tenh seed. The winner of the seven eight

944
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: they're automatically in the playoffs as the seventh seed, so

945
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: likely taking on the Celtics. The loser of the nine

946
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: to ten game they're eliminated. The winner of that plays

947
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: the loser of that seven eight game to determine the

948
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: number eight seed who will be playing the Milwaukee Bucks.

949
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: My question off all of that, because you got the

950
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: Heat winning Nets losing, they get a little bit closer

951
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: to the sixth seeds, so they could still get up there.

952
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: But of all of the teams in the play in

953
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: hell even include the Nets, if you want sure, which

954
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: one do you believe the most, the most faith that

955
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: they could potentially pull off an upset make a great series.

956
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: Who are you going with or none of them?

957
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: I think the short answer is none of them. But

958
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 3: some of it comes down to while it's like not

959
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: completely locked, it seems like to be the case, like

960
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: who gets that two seed is a big question there,

961
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 3: because then you know you're talking matchups at this point,

962
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: like who wants to face Boston versus who wants to

963
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: play face Philly? What's more agreeable that way? Toronto had

964
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: an exciting series against Philly last season. All things basically

965
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: look in the same both sides that you never know

966
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: what could happen there. I don't see it's just the sis,

967
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: just kick And we're also talking about someone who might

968
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: be the MVP this season too. And but like at

969
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: the same time too, like we've been talking about it

970
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: for a while now, like it's so top heavy in

971
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 3: the East. Yeah, nobody wants to really like face them,

972
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: Like that is one where you legitimately did not want

973
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: to get into the plane or get into there, like

974
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: you wanted to lock a position because facing any windows

975
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: feels like it's gonna be disaster.

976
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 2: So you think it's gonna be chalk one, two three,

977
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: no matter the seeding in the Eastern Conference, and then

978
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: whoever wins between the Cabs and the Knicks that'll be

979
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: the fourth team in the second round.

980
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: At best, I feel like it would get a little spicy,

981
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: maybe steal a game like two two threes a lot,

982
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: maybe one or two.

983
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: Games right right, right? And so what team you're going

984
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: with if.

985
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to go, oh, I got it, I'm going

986
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: there's a seven thray there. I'm gonna go with Miami.

987
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Miami. Okay, yeah, you can see Miami stealing one on

988
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: the road. Suddenly it's a series. Maybe it's against them,

989
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: but you never know. Yeah, yeah, I don't think Celtics

990
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: fans would be all that pumped play Miami. I think

991
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: they would still beat them if everybody's healthy. But yeah,

992
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: I could see that being at least a bit of

993
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: a fight there from the Miami heat. You know, we

994
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: slipped in the Raptors winning there last night they crushed

995
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: the Hornets. There was some Raptors news right after you

996
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: guys finished up and saw the drop on Thursday for

997
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 2: everybody then made their way to Houston, and that was that.

998
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Raptors head coach Nick Nurse. He wants time to quote

999
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: see where I'm at after the season because he has

1000
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: been there for ten years in Toronto as an assistant

1001
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: and then as a head coach. And he said this

1002
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: on Friday, He's going to take a few weeks to

1003
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: see where he's at. And he did say like this

1004
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: was a difficult season. This was off of like it was.

1005
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: It's funny timing with this because you know, Doug Smith

1006
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: writes this article about the possibility of Nurse maybe leaving

1007
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: the Raptors. There are links to the Houston Rockets. We

1008
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: talked to Kelly Echo about that in their live show

1009
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: in Houston. But then he was almost like Nurse addressed

1010
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: us in the in one of the pregame press conferences,

1011
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 2: not from a Raptors beat writer, from a Sixers beat writer,

1012
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: Keith POMPEII, And he wasn't even asked about like, hey,

1013
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: are you leaving, Like it was more just like a generic,

1014
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 2: you know, sort of up and down season.

1015
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 3: And Nick Nurse like that at any given moment, he'll

1016
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: give you a quote that just kind of makes you

1017
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 3: raise an eyebrow.

1018
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 2: This one raised a lot of eyebrouse, where again, sort

1019
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: of unprompted, he was making it sound like I don't know, right,

1020
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be here, and had a

1021
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: lot of people wondering, you know, is this leaning up

1022
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: to him parting ways with the Raptors and maybe it's

1023
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: a mutual part and maybe he has another gig lined

1024
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: up and all that. Do you what do you think? Though?

1025
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 3: It's it's funny because Nick Nurse obviously, like coming into

1026
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: the head coaching position with the Raptors, had such like

1027
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 3: a hot start like season one twenty nineteen NBA Championship.

1028
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: But even then, like when you think about when he

1029
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: signed as head coach, he did not know yet he

1030
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 3: had Kawhi Leonard, so he was already thrown a wrench

1031
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 3: into his plans probably coming into the team like right

1032
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: off the top. Then you had like talk about all

1033
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: the wrenches. Season two pandemic hits. They make it to

1034
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 3: the second round against the Celtics. Yeah, they make a

1035
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 3: very admirable run there. That might be like the last

1036
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: like real like the Raptors feeling competitive season a little bit.

1037
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: Season three Miami Bubble Raptors. The one that yes, sorry, Tampa,

1038
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: that's right, Tampa, and one that like really like what

1039
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: comes out of it is that we at Scotty Barnes

1040
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 3: correct Scottie Barne season four Rookie of the Year, first

1041
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: round against Philly, we take him to seven. It's it

1042
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: feels like like if anything, that's one that you look

1043
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: back retroactively when you look at how this season goes,

1044
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: if it's like a step forward, which it has not

1045
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: been right and so you know by the way they lost, thank.

1046
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, because it would be thinking seven day, thought

1047
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: we made the whole space and all that.

1048
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1049
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so but just looking at it, it's it's really

1050
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: been a roller coaster that like really is so informed

1051
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: by like if a championship is not there, like how

1052
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: do we even do we still have Nick Nurse at

1053
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: this point? Is like one question. Sure, but yeah, I

1054
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: don't know. And that's not even counting in the five

1055
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: years before that he was an assistant Underding Casey. So,

1056
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: like he said in his in that answer, ten years

1057
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: makes you think ten years does.

1058
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: Really make it's a nice round number.

1059
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 3: It's a nice round It works out perfectly that way.

1060
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 3: He's also heading into like a coach of his stature.

1061
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: I think Eric Crean wrote this for the Athletic. You know,

1062
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 3: usually would go into their final season already with an

1063
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: extension play see where I'm at after the season. Maybe

1064
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: it's actually also just seeing where the Raptors are at

1065
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: because we don't know what's happening in the off season

1066
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: with a lot of the potential signings. Pascal Siac comes

1067
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: up in the air like he's still coming into next season,

1068
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: but like him getting all NBA Wild Factor in between

1069
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: him being like a super Max versus a regular Max.

1070
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things going on. You talked about

1071
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: it at the live show. We talked about young players

1072
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: that we'd want to like lock ourselves into. You had

1073
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: Scottie Barnes as a thought, like not because he's necessarily

1074
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: there yet, but like the flashes that he shows. Yep,

1075
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 3: that's kind of like if you're the Raptors organization too,

1076
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: like wondering like how far are we gonna take him?

1077
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 3: Like because I would say Scotty Barnes year two has

1078
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: not felt as promising as like again flashes there, you

1079
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: see those moments of late he's been playing pretty well,

1080
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: but you know, all things kind of point toward him

1081
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: probably being like what our feature is, but like his

1082
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: timeline is very different from what are currently.

1083
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly and then where does Nurse fall into this question.

1084
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: I think we brought this up on a podcast soon

1085
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: after the All Star break that we were hearing whispers

1086
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: at All Star weekend from some plugged in people that

1087
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: Nurse is likely going to be gone, Like I think

1088
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: this is a now. After hearing Nurse address it, shut

1089
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: it out of the blue.

1090
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: To me, I was like, Okay, convinced, but the Houston

1091
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: and I of like it almost felt like it was

1092
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: a soft launch toward the end.

1093
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, And I think a part of it

1094
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: is sure, maybe it's just been here ten years. I

1095
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: want to try something else. Maybe they're you know, maybe

1096
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: the front office slash players, they're tired of me. I'm

1097
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: tired of them, you know. Like it's just like you

1098
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: work with anyone that long, you can just get a

1099
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: little exhausted with each other. And that's fine. I mean,

1100
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: especially if he sees an opening, like if he wants

1101
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: to be Houston Rockets head coach. To me, that would

1102
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: be a no break, Like they should do that. They

1103
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: should actively go get him again if he does leave

1104
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors.

1105
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: Because and he has a history with him, he was

1106
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,479
Speaker 3: coaching for their G League team back then.

1107
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: And just like the idea of like come in set

1108
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: a culture. What are we I think Nurse could do

1109
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: that for them, and that's something we need and we

1110
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: talked to Kelly about that. All their young players. They

1111
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: just need some leadership right in the coaching staff maybe

1112
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: or on the floor.

1113
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: That might have been actually what Nick thought he was

1114
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: coming into when he took the head coaching position. But

1115
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: then the Kawhi Leondard trade happens, and then it becomes

1116
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: like championship window everything that you're looking at, like reviewing

1117
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 3: through those five seasons, he hasn't really even had a

1118
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: consistent core each season.

1119
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: Right right. I think Nick Nurse is an incredible coach.

1120
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: Sure.

1121
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, of course he brought them a championship. I

1122
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: don't care who's on your team. To still do that,

1123
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: it's pretty impressive. But I've always said, like he does.

1124
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: You can knock him at times for like, you know,

1125
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: his rotations and stuff like that, but I do find

1126
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: him at least creative for the most part, where he

1127
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: does in a game make adjustments because whatever isn't working

1128
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: the game plan, throw it out the window, let's try

1129
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: something else. Now, I think he used to do that

1130
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: a lot more. I think he's gone away from that

1131
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: a little bit. Is that because you know, objectives from

1132
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: the front office of playing these potential people more, let's

1133
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: see what we got with these, like try and build

1134
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: the bench and all that. Anyway, that's why I think

1135
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: what's just happened here. I think he is gonna move on,

1136
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: and I think the Raptors even probably maybe they just

1137
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: want a fresh voice too, to then help their direction

1138
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: because they're still figuring out. The whole deadline was like

1139
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: figuring out like, well, who's gone? Is Ogi gone? You know,

1140
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: it would be crazy if Van Bleetz moved, you know,

1141
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: Gary Trent Junior. And instead they did the opposite right,

1142
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: and they finally got a center in Pertle. It's helped them.

1143
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: They're a better team than they were. No one's picking

1144
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: the Raptors to make any real noise, though in a

1145
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: playoff series, maybe they get in, maybe they win a

1146
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: game or two, but I don't think they're going deep.

1147
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 2: So it's just like, what.

1148
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: Are we besides post trade deadline oppressor. I believe he

1149
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: said something around the lines of like maybe their moves

1150
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: to be made, but it didn't feel like this was

1151
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: the moment to make the move right so if anything,

1152
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: you know, again that in itself, like, especially with the

1153
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: context of this going on, could feel like to see

1154
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: it of like the off seat is the time where

1155
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: they're really like going to take a proper look at

1156
00:59:59,480 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: the team.

1157
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Think so, so what does your gut say, Nick, Like,

1158
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: if you're a betman, will not be coaching the Raptors

1159
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: next season?

1160
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: I mean I betty Man like not only like normally

1161
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: this is a situation where you're like, well, the team

1162
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: let it go, Like this sounds like a divorce, it's

1163
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 3: about to happen.

1164
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, who do you think will coach him next?

1165
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: So the name that we heard floating around was Imadoka,

1166
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: former Celtics coach. Former Celtics coach. He had had he

1167
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: was in the running for that twenty nineteen position. He

1168
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: had ties with Masai through the Basketball Without Borders program.

1169
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: And it's also again like coming off of like what

1170
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: he's been doing from for the Celtics, like he just

1171
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: becomes like a name of that point yep, involved beyond that,

1172
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who are you hearing?

1173
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: No, that's the one that's the top of most lead,

1174
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: And I guess the relationship does make some sense. Now

1175
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: we have the whole situation within for Celtics coaching them,

1176
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: like literally getting told like all right, go away because

1177
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, we can't have this an organization, we don't

1178
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: want this with.

1179
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: Before the season would feel almost like a lock. Obviously,

1180
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 3: a lot of things are very different in the right now.

1181
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see. Let's hear of everybody out there, though,

1182
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: Nick Nurse, is he going to be coaching the Raptors

1183
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: next season or are you agreeing with Jerome and I

1184
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: that he's probably done here and a hell of a

1185
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: run of course, because they have been one of the

1186
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: best teams over the last ten years for sure in

1187
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: terms of records.

1188
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: Uh, he's been influential coach in the league.

1189
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Well. The other part too about Nick Nurse

1190
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: is like how how tied to Canadian basketball he is

1191
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: in terms of coaching them? And is that a complication

1192
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: that comes from this? I mean it doesn't need to be,

1193
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 2: but you know, he's really obviously the guy's on every

1194
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Canadian television show ever made. It feels like, what.

1195
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: If anything, him leaving her maybe our tampering chances of

1196
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: getting some Canadian players onto him.

1197
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, interesting, I haven't thought about that. Well, what

1198
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: about getting Steve Nash to coach the Toronto Raptors. Don't

1199
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: do that, Steve, just keep kicking it. Man. You're doing

1200
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: some weird like yoga things I see on Instagram every

1201
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: once in a while, somebody's paying them to do something.

1202
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: So he just stay doing that. Man. We got to

1203
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: take one more break when we come back out. Tweet

1204
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: of the night, Don't Go Anywhere. Thanks again to Neutral

1205
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: for setting us up with that live show in Houston,

1206
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: and again everybody that came out. Despite the odd technical

1207
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: difficulty with some mics crapping out here and there, and

1208
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, some complications at times with the live stream,

1209
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: otherwise we had a blast.

1210
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: It was a super fun time.

1211
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe people were there.

1212
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I met dream Shake dream Shake stream team right now.

1213
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, everyone was so awesome. Like I didn't even

1214
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: know we were going to get a chance to talk

1215
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: with people after the show. We just hopped down off

1216
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: the stage.

1217
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: You signed a Rookie card, didn't you.

1218
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: I signed a Mark Price card at one point.

1219
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1220
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: I signed a couple of jerseys, a couple of shorts,

1221
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: took some photos, but like talking to everyone just like

1222
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: obviously super nice and We really appreciate everybody coming out.

1223
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: Everyone was good at too. Sorry they were good at Like, Hey,

1224
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to the guys for a second,

1225
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to take like fifteen minutes.

1226
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: They didn't monopolize your time.

1227
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough for some people to do. And I

1228
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: respected the hell out of it.

1229
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, very aware of people around him saying, oh, this

1230
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 4: guy wants to talk, so I'm gonna say my goodbyes.

1231
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: But it was so kind, it was great, so kind,

1232
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: and we kept moving. We had to be somewhere, we

1233
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: had to go to the game, so maybe people knew that.

1234
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: So it was just a good pace. It was great

1235
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: to the post meet and greet that we didn't even

1236
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: know we were gonna do that.

1237
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: Sh and I also got some stops.

1238
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: Oh ye were signing too.

1239
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: We did not sign a things, but.

1240
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: Not there yet. We got sixteen more years.

1241
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: No, no, but like honestly appreciate like all the love

1242
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 3: completely it's it was a great time. I think I

1243
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: had a good talk with about it afterwards. Hes just like, like,

1244
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: what do we do and just work the room?

1245
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 2: Man, take the room, say hid as the people, all

1246
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: the stream teamers, everybody, the podcast listeners. We love it.

1247
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: Uh and we'll be doing hopefully another live show m

1248
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: hmm maybe in summerly, maybe.

1249
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 4: At summer league. Yeah, at the very least like a meetup,

1250
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, like we did.

1251
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: We did that.

1252
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: That's maybe.

1253
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: They's so much easier to chill.

1254
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no technical difficulties.

1255
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 4: I don't just do anything. That's what I love them.

1256
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Okay, well, like you know, put it

1257
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: on your calendar, put it in pencil. Maybe if you're

1258
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 2: going to head out the summer league that will hopefully

1259
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: get together. In fact, we need to talk about that

1260
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: because Nora. This morning, my wife was like, hey, I

1261
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna fly home to Toronto to see Beyonce.

1262
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, cool with our girlfriend.

1263
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 4: I forgot she knows Beyonce.

1264
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, well when is it? And she's like,

1265
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: I think July, the weekend of July seventh, and I'm like,

1266
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, I think that summer league. That's

1267
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: usually the weekend we go week and she goes, well,

1268
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: are you going you haven't said anything. I'm like, we

1269
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 2: go every year. Yeah.

1270
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: Basically there's a piece we have our athletic summit that

1271
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 3: we're going to be attending.

1272
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh so we're going.

1273
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: We're going.

1274
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: So I got to get a dog sitter, is what

1275
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1276
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well.

1277
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: We'll be doing that. Well we're in Vegas. Nora will

1278
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: be in Toronto, probably watching Beyonce with her with her friends.

1279
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you'll be not in Toronto, you'll be.

1280
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: I will be.

1281
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: Have you seen the Queen?

1282
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: I had seen her concert with her and jay Z.

1283
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: It was really good, jeez, in Toronto.

1284
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: In Toronto, what was this? I forget the exact year.

1285
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: I think my favorite thing was just like just a

1286
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 3: lot of guys being there, like in line, like trying

1287
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: to like be like real tough about it.

1288
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm here for the Z part.

1289
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: Actually told me that, like just like I'm sure for

1290
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: the jay Z. I'm sure. I'm like, yeah, Beyonce. And

1291
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: then my favorite similar to her, like it's the opposite

1292
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 3: of our Yukon fan yep uh. Such a commitment to

1293
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: the bit during the Beyonce parts, stoic standing still, oh god.

1294
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: And then when jay Z.

1295
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: Came on, yeah, bobbing away. But when Beyonce was singing.

1296
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: No, couldn't be bothered, didn't sit down, he was not

1297
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: drunk in love.

1298
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: No, for sure. Let's get to tweet of the night.

1299
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: Tweet over and now you wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this tweet of the night Near and dear to

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Speaker 2: our heart. It's from at the Athletic or I should

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Speaker 2: say no, the at Athletic NBA show and it just

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Speaker 2: reads Jadathon. Join us on Thursday at one pm Eastern

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: to help our friend Jade Hoy and his family in

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Speaker 2: their time of need. At Talk Hoops, our guy Zach

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01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: Harper is hosting and he will be joined by many

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Speaker 2: special guests. And if you can, please consider giving to

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Speaker 2: the go fundme, and we've got it up there on

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Speaker 2: the page. I will make sure to get that in

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Speaker 2: the show notes as well. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Jade Hoy, a long time producer at The Athletic podcast,

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Speaker 2: in an accident around what Thanksgiving, yes, and is obviously recovering,

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01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of costs with that and

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Speaker 2: helping to support his family. That's why this go fundme exists.

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Speaker 2: Awesome to see that number. Thanks to everybody that has

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Speaker 2: donated to this, and let's continue to get that up there.

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Speaker 2: But that's what they'll be doing at one pm on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jade Hoyd, Near and dear to our hearts. For

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Speaker 3: me personally, I've gotten back with him, yeah, as far

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Speaker 3: back as like the ESPN True Hoop days, right, Yeah,

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: And so the thing that Jade is always like fostered

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Speaker 3: more than anything. And I think why you see like

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Speaker 3: such a good turnout like this already is that he's

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Speaker 3: loved community and fans, Yeah, NonStop. And so when it

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Speaker 3: comes to Jade, I think I am one of many

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Speaker 3: people who have been touched by like him being in

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Speaker 3: our lives. He will come through and go above and

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Speaker 3: beyond for anyone that he he vouches for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And so if you have him in your corner,

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Speaker 2: it's a bad You're ready to go into that room

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Speaker 2: or go to the war, whatever you have, you want

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Speaker 2: that guy with you. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Arguably a lot of my relationship with Jade, and like

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Speaker 3: the larger Athletic NBA show crew, is probably what led

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Speaker 3: me on a path to eventually show up here. So no,

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Speaker 3: if you can come through for Jade, definitely do so,

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01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: and definitely tune into the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, I'll get that link up once again in

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: the show notes and yeah, join joined Zach Harper there

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Speaker 2: and the many guests popping in one pm on Thursday,

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: which is tomorrow. Correct, Yes, okay, it has been a while,

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Speaker 2: last couple of days, but tomorrow's Thursday. That means tonight Survivor,

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: and that means tomorrow also around that time live on

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: No Buffs, our Survivor recap podcast, j D and I

1345
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 2: shopping to well, I got a decision to make. Okay, okay,

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: our guy Wendell, winner of Survivor. He's here tonight, live

1347
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: show in Atlanta with this guy Brice, and we're on

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Speaker 2: the list. Yeah, I want to roll through, but I'm

1349
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 2: running on empty right now, same running running real low.

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: But we'll see, we'll see. I mean I can find

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: a game time yea one hundred percent gt D for me.

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 2: But if you're Atlanta, seek out. I don't even know

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: if to iuse we're Stillville, probably not because they are

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Speaker 2: very very popular, but they're doing a live show or

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 2: a watch party. I should say tonight here in Atlanta,

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01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: and uh and then we'll be tomorrow talking about the episode.

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: We'll be watching it nonetheless, whether it's live at home

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 4: And you know Tassie has been watching this whole season.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, well when is he task is back tonight? Oh

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: so Yeah, he might might be a late night for Tasks.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back in the factory tomorrow for the show.

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Speaker 2: He will be back here, Tasks will be joining us

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Speaker 2: here at the desk tomorrow morning. You're sticking around all

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Speaker 2: week obviously, JD. And like I said, Trey Kirby, he's

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: getting in his little mini vacation here with his fam. Uh,

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Speaker 2: before we really get into it with the start of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, which is right around the corner. Man, and

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Speaker 2: I got I got the Boston Marathon.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's sort of mental this month of April. But

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Speaker 2: can't wait for the playoffs. And we got the plan

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01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: and all that, and yeah, we'll be here, someone will

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: be here. Yeah, don't you worry about that. There's enough

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: of us, especially now with our our guys that can

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Speaker 2: come out of the pan in Jerome and esh and

1377
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So the podcasts and the show will

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Speaker 2: continue the rest of this week, next week and into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Can't wait, but we'll call it there. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much to our special guest Tim Bella of the

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: Washington Post for joining us as I lose the book

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Speaker 2: cover there for this book, Barkley highly recomend you go

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 2: grab this. I'll also get this in the show notes,

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01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: at least a link to Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

1385
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: You can go grab this. I've enjoined it, like I mean,

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: it's a big book. I took it on my hiking trip.

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Speaker 2: Read a lot on the on the plane, So that

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Speaker 2: was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Everything you had to pack, the fact that you brought

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Speaker 3: that sizzling.

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01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: Exactly right, and that's how good it is. I couldn't

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: put it down on the plane until I fell asleep

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: because I was exhausted. I ran a lot more on

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Speaker 2: the way there. Let's run it back way a lot

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Speaker 2: less on the way back.

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Speaker 3: It was an early flight to it. Well, for.

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Speaker 2: I have been up at like five o'clock or four

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Speaker 2: o'clock every day for the last running on five days here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I've had an awesome time. So go to the

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Speaker 2: Utah National Parks. You will not be disappointed. You guys.

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Speaker 2: Gotta do it, yeah, Zion Bryce. I'll talk about it later,

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: d maybe on the drop later this week. Guys, Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Thanks gonn Tune, Thank you

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: to Jerome JD. We will see you guys tomorrow here

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern Life from the classifactory until then.

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Speaker 2: Clipper Bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 2: turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any words of wisdom?

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: Look if it's been ten years, take a pause, see

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: where you're at.

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Speaker 2: Brace the day, people,