1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live presented

2
00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400
Speaker 1: by Coors Light right here on giants dot com. Schmellk

3
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,680
Speaker 1: figgles you to a one four or five on three.

4
00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,720
Speaker 1: That's how you tall talk to us. Give us a call,

5
00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,000
Speaker 1: we'll chat, or I'll try to do a better job

6
00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,360
Speaker 1: paying attention to Twitter today hashtag Giants Chat. If you

7
00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,759
Speaker 1: want to ask some questions or interact with us that way,

8
00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,040
Speaker 1: you certainly can. We look forward to talking with you.

9
00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 1: And it is divisional playoff weekend. Mr Fiegel, who also

10
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,560
Speaker 1: had a bunch of coaching changes around the league. I've

11
00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of given my opinion on all this stuff, but

12
00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 1: now we can get your thoughts. Let's start the coaches first.

13
00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,760
Speaker 1: Any of the coaching decisions or replacements this week surprise

14
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:43,760
Speaker 1: you at all? Um? Yes? And no? Okay, okay, I

15
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,040
Speaker 1: see the trend. Can you go into more details please? Yes,

16
00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,200
Speaker 1: I see the trend. It's the McVeigh trend, and it's funny.

17
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I made the joke on Wednesday. If you're

18
00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,560
Speaker 1: a coach and you can like photoshop yourself into a

19
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,200
Speaker 1: picture with Sean McVeigh, you have a legitimate chance of

20
00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,480
Speaker 1: getting a head coaching opportunity and so, and we'll see

21
00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,120
Speaker 1: if it happened, If it works, I don't, I mean,

22
00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240
Speaker 1: maybe it will, maybe one. I don't think all of

23
00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,200
Speaker 1: them are gonna work out, but well, they never do.

24
00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,160
Speaker 1: The other thing is the Jets higher I think makes

25
00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,080
Speaker 1: sense because of Adam Gates and his relationship with quarterbacks.

26
00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't mind the case higher. I think a lot

27
00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,640
Speaker 1: of Jeff fans are really upset. I think it's fine.

28
00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,120
Speaker 1: I think it's fine because I also believe that that

29
00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 1: he because he has experience, this was going to help

30
00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,040
Speaker 1: this team. I agree with that. I don't have to

31
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,360
Speaker 1: go for another new head coach has never been one

32
00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,559
Speaker 1: in the pros before. I don't think at this juncture

33
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,960
Speaker 1: that's where the Jets wanted to go. Um why they

34
00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,200
Speaker 1: didn't go with McCarthy. I'm sure there's more to this

35
00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,840
Speaker 1: than we know, Okay, but I also think because McCarthy

36
00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,080
Speaker 1: can work with quarterbacks to at least not in the

37
00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,199
Speaker 1: later parts of his career, and him and Rodgers didn't

38
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,840
Speaker 1: get along very well, that's ultimately what happened. Now. I

39
00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360
Speaker 1: think the list of people Aaron Rodgers doesn't get along

40
00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,640
Speaker 1: with those long list, Yes, um so and Bruce Arians

41
00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,000
Speaker 1: I think will be a good fit for Jamis Winston

42
00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,320
Speaker 1: down there in Tampa. I mean the guy is I've

43
00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,640
Speaker 1: worked with Peyton Annie and I mean he's kind of

44
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback whisper himself. And then you got the two

45
00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,880
Speaker 1: new guys or two to coach to vacancy still left

46
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,320
Speaker 1: and we'll see what those go with. So the Dolphins

47
00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200
Speaker 1: and Bengals, and you know, the Flores is the guy

48
00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,440
Speaker 1: that's been rumored from Miami along with Christians Shard from Dallas.

49
00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,359
Speaker 1: And since he's kind of up in the air, to

50
00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,240
Speaker 1: be honest with you, we'll we'll see what they do.

51
00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 1: Then they were talking about sorry, the young guy from

52
00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,760
Speaker 1: the Ramscay's quarterbacks coach. So now what happens if the

53
00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,160
Speaker 1: Rams lose this swee to Dallas and make face Owen

54
00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800
Speaker 1: two in the playoffs and they score like thirteen points,

55
00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,760
Speaker 1: well that would be that the other two, the other

56
00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,760
Speaker 1: guy coming from the staff might be in trouble getting

57
00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,600
Speaker 1: the next job. But the other guy's already got him.

58
00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,119
Speaker 1: So whatever. Um, you know, as far as the way

59
00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,560
Speaker 1: things are going, I did the game's last week. Um

60
00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,079
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I watched them all and

61
00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,400
Speaker 1: except for the last game. No, I didn't know I

62
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560
Speaker 1: watched him. I was talking about the National Championship game.

63
00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,480
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole game for that, glad I didn't.

64
00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,240
Speaker 1: Didn't turn out very well, but hell of a job

65
00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,760
Speaker 1: by Clemson, Bud. Know. We'll see what happens with Philly. Yeah,

66
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, they're pretty good. Yeah, I don't know if

67
00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,519
Speaker 1: their secondary is gonna be able to handle breeze in

68
00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,040
Speaker 1: the Saints though. I don't see it. Yeah, it's gonna

69
00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,680
Speaker 1: be tough going there to play. That's as we all know.

70
00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,800
Speaker 1: That's a tough place to go. Look Dallas, look, Jeff

71
00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880
Speaker 1: Matt matchups make fights to me, and in the NFL

72
00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,200
Speaker 1: and the personnel problems and the Eagles secondary against a

73
00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,960
Speaker 1: quarterback like Drew Brees and a head coach like Sean Payton,

74
00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,840
Speaker 1: and the Saints have a good offensive line to handle

75
00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles defensive front. I just don't see how the

76
00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,640
Speaker 1: Eagles get the Saints off the field and make it.

77
00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I agree with you, but I

78
00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360
Speaker 1: just there's something about this team. It just happens. And

79
00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, Dallas, Dallas is not Listen. They're they're a

80
00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,280
Speaker 1: good team, but they're I don't know if they can

81
00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,760
Speaker 1: go down and play against the rams um, but who knows.

82
00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,000
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I'm looking forward to those games.

83
00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,680
Speaker 1: I give Dallas a better chance than Philly. You do, absolutely, Okay,

84
00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,600
Speaker 1: you're you're right. I do give them a better chance

85
00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,960
Speaker 1: because it's tough to go up to St. To and

86
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,160
Speaker 1: then the a f C matchups I have. I have

87
00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,600
Speaker 1: a I think that the Chargers can go in and

88
00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:13,000
Speaker 1: beat beat them. I'm not a big fan of the

89
00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,640
Speaker 1: twenty one degree temperatures and win that they're going to have.

90
00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,400
Speaker 1: I think that they can run the football. Um, They've

91
00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,560
Speaker 1: got a good defense. We'll see what happens. No, that's

92
00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,560
Speaker 1: that's the only bad thing about is that team coming

93
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 1: from the West Coast going out there. Now, I'm gonna

94
00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,520
Speaker 1: put you in the time machine a little bit. Do

95
00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,680
Speaker 1: you remember the movie The Avengers and not the recent

96
00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,440
Speaker 1: Marvel The Avengers. I'm talking about like the mid nineties.

97
00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,920
Speaker 1: There was an old British TV show I think called

98
00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,160
Speaker 1: The Avengers and they made a movie out of it

99
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,279
Speaker 1: in the in the mid nineties, and Sean Connery was

100
00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 1: the villain. He was just like separatist Scotsman who created

101
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,080
Speaker 1: this weather machine and it was able to like create

102
00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,280
Speaker 1: whatever weather he wanted, and that's what the Avengers had

103
00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,400
Speaker 1: to stop. Right. I feel like Bill Belichick has a

104
00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,120
Speaker 1: weather machine. Whenever the Patriots are playing a home playoff

105
00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320
Speaker 1: game against the team that wants to pass the ball,

106
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,920
Speaker 1: they and get bad weather whenever they want. How many

107
00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,120
Speaker 1: times did Peyton Manning show up there for a playoff

108
00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,080
Speaker 1: game and it's snow in or it's raining or seventeen degrees.

109
00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 1: He's Sean Connery with the weather machine. I just think

110
00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,960
Speaker 1: at this juncture was Philip Rivers. He is so desperate

111
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 1: to win something because of this the class that he's in,

112
00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 1: and he hasn't done anything that I think that that's

113
00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,880
Speaker 1: got a growing for him. And I think that I

114
00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,560
Speaker 1: think they're good. They're a good team defensively. I think

115
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,479
Speaker 1: they can get after the quarterbacks. Well, I mean historically

116
00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,440
Speaker 1: you look at the Chiefs and their winning record and

117
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Not good at home at least, I mean

118
00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,040
Speaker 1: they've only won one game since the nineties right at

119
00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,479
Speaker 1: home in the playoffs. But I think that Patrick Mahomes,

120
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick them, but I think it will be

121
00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,880
Speaker 1: a very good game because I think that the Colts

122
00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,479
Speaker 1: are so well rounded on offense that they can control

123
00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,840
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and we know that they can

124
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,200
Speaker 1: move the chains, which then first downs, and they can

125
00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,599
Speaker 1: put points on the board, which keeps Mahomes off the field,

126
00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680
Speaker 1: gives them a chance. But I think that it will

127
00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,240
Speaker 1: be a game. Um, I'm gonna give it to the

128
00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,880
Speaker 1: chart to the Chiefs. I'll tell you, the Colts have

129
00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,520
Speaker 1: been a very very hip upset pick this week. I

130
00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,440
Speaker 1: find a lot of people are picking them, and I

131
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,599
Speaker 1: understand why. Andrew looks amazing. They have a very good offense.

132
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,880
Speaker 1: I just think that Chief's offense is on another level

133
00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400
Speaker 1: as good as the Colts offense. Is what the Chiefs

134
00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,039
Speaker 1: are able to do with Mahomes and Tyree Hill, I

135
00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,680
Speaker 1: don't care who the running back is, to be quite

136
00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,440
Speaker 1: honest with you, throw Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid. Yeah,

137
00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,440
Speaker 1: he has game management issues in the playoffs, but he's

138
00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,040
Speaker 1: still damn good in terms of scheming. And the Colts

139
00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,000
Speaker 1: don't do anything complicated on defense. They run a lot

140
00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,839
Speaker 1: of two deep zone. Uh, they try to keep things

141
00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,839
Speaker 1: in front of him. I think the I think the

142
00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs put up a forty spot in this game, I

143
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640
Speaker 1: think the Colts put up thirty something and if the

144
00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,560
Speaker 1: Colts get the ball back down one score with two

145
00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,400
Speaker 1: minutes ago, I think Luck drives him down, he scores

146
00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But I think the Chiefs hold on will

147
00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,520
Speaker 1: win this game. I'm with you. I think the road

148
00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,840
Speaker 1: team with the best chance to win is probably the Chargers,

149
00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,080
Speaker 1: and then the next road team with the best chance

150
00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,960
Speaker 1: to win is Dallas. What do you think about weather

151
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,400
Speaker 1: the You know, the Colts coming from their Dome team,

152
00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 1: so they're gonna go into Kansas City, which I played

153
00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,200
Speaker 1: there many times when it's been cold, and when it's

154
00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:22,120
Speaker 1: cold there, it has that Midwest dry um, and you

155
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,360
Speaker 1: know a lot of people say, oh, does it really matter, Yes,

156
00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,280
Speaker 1: it does matter. No, you know we beat we beat

157
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,840
Speaker 1: the Packers when it was twenty below zero. But we're

158
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,200
Speaker 1: a New York team. We're used to somewhat of cold weather.

159
00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,240
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. The other thing I forgot

160
00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,040
Speaker 1: to mention is, by the way, just so just so

161
00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,760
Speaker 1: you're aware, it's supposed to be on Sunday. Actually it's

162
00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be Saturday, right. The game in Kansas City

163
00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,120
Speaker 1: is the first game on Saturday right morning, snow, cloudy,

164
00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,840
Speaker 1: high of thirty six, low of twenty eight, real field

165
00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,480
Speaker 1: thirty Slash's bad. It's a little snow though, that could

166
00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,840
Speaker 1: be fun. Everyone likes a little snow. You know what,

167
00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,200
Speaker 1: if you're running a transfer more than six Friday Saturday, now,

168
00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,160
Speaker 1: they'll get most of that shoveled off the field, I'm sure.

169
00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,080
Speaker 1: But if the if the system and I'm gonna put

170
00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920
Speaker 1: my al Roker had on now, if the system slows

171
00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,000
Speaker 1: down sweeping down from the Great Lakes area, then then

172
00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,560
Speaker 1: that you could get snow during the game. That's that's

173
00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,880
Speaker 1: the four o'clock or four thirty game, whatever it is,

174
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,680
Speaker 1: on on Saturday afternoon. The other I meant to mention

175
00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,400
Speaker 1: this early. The other higher I like is Denver. I

176
00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,080
Speaker 1: think that that is really really good up there with

177
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000
Speaker 1: that defense, and you know what, he it's long time coming.

178
00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,319
Speaker 1: That guy deserves to get a job. Vic Fangio is

179
00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,120
Speaker 1: an excellent defensive coordinator, no question, and I think he's

180
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,439
Speaker 1: going to do good things. And he went out and

181
00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,880
Speaker 1: got Gary Kubiak as the offensive coordinator. John Elway did, Yeah,

182
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,480
Speaker 1: they're you think they're pretty good buddies. You take exactly.

183
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,600
Speaker 1: And so you know he stepped away years ago for

184
00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,760
Speaker 1: health reasons, right, and that way he didn't get fired.

185
00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,040
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm not sure he's gonna be a

186
00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,439
Speaker 1: head coach again. I think he'll be happy to be

187
00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,080
Speaker 1: a coordinator this you know, less stress. Yeah, yeah, and

188
00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520
Speaker 1: and where he's been before with his buddy, you know.

189
00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,520
Speaker 1: So that's a good higher, right. I like that higher.

190
00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,959
Speaker 1: A long time coming for that one, just like Bruce

191
00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,480
Speaker 1: arians you know, he waited a long time to get

192
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,400
Speaker 1: a head coaching job too, um, you know, years ago

193
00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,760
Speaker 1: when you get the Arizona So in the end from life.

194
00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:18,480
Speaker 1: For the games this weekend, I'm gonna go Saints Chiefs.

195
00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,040
Speaker 1: I think both one seeds advance. There's something about the

196
00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,120
Speaker 1: Patriots at home in the second round of the playoffs.

197
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 1: They just don't lose those games. They don't and they

198
00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,520
Speaker 1: were and they were eight know at home this year.

199
00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:30,920
Speaker 1: You took the wards right out of my mouth and

200
00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,600
Speaker 1: historically look AFC Championship game. Sure, they might lose in

201
00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,560
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship. I don't see them losing

202
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760
Speaker 1: in a divisional round. And I'll be rooting hard for

203
00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,120
Speaker 1: San Diego. I want Philip Rivers to do it. Remember

204
00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,840
Speaker 1: I they were my surprise team last year and I

205
00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160
Speaker 1: was a year early on them. They've done it this year. Um,

206
00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,320
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping the Charges do it. But I just

207
00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,319
Speaker 1: can't pick against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the

208
00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,800
Speaker 1: divisional round and what the heck? Yeah? Yeah, you have

209
00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,320
Speaker 1: to pick one upset, right, I say, Dallas beats the

210
00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Rams twenty four seve in team. Okay, I believe there.

211
00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you with one upset. There has to be

212
00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,480
Speaker 1: an upset. There's always one. And you think it's gonna

213
00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,560
Speaker 1: be the Chargers. I think it's going to be the Chargers.

214
00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,840
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised a total surprise, like if

215
00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,320
Speaker 1: you tell me on Monday or when whenever the Chiefs

216
00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,520
Speaker 1: are playing Saturday. If you tell you on Sunday, you

217
00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 1: went to sleep and you woke up and the next

218
00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,040
Speaker 1: day they the Colts beat the Chiefs, I wouldn't be like,

219
00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,880
Speaker 1: are you kidding? The only team I'd be shocked if

220
00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,880
Speaker 1: they won were the Eagles, Okay, and I think that

221
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,640
Speaker 1: that would be a that would be the upset of

222
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,120
Speaker 1: the weekend. I think it's like an eight and a

223
00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,080
Speaker 1: half point spread or something. Like that, So go up

224
00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,240
Speaker 1: there and win. Um. The only reason that the only

225
00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,720
Speaker 1: way that happens possibly is if Breeze gets taken out

226
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,080
Speaker 1: of the game somehow and they have to bring in

227
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,800
Speaker 1: whoever they are. They gonna bring in Bridgewater and Nick Foles.

228
00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,000
Speaker 1: If that happens, We'll just start counting the money that

229
00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna get offered this offseason. He's already I know,

230
00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,640
Speaker 1: but it will be even more just to change to change,

231
00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,400
Speaker 1: to change, to change, to change, change to change to

232
00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,120
Speaker 1: five one three one to remind you that Big Blu

233
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,199
Speaker 1: Kick Golf Live is presented by Cores Light. Download the

234
00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760
Speaker 1: Coors Light rewards that to him to win amazing Giants

235
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,839
Speaker 1: Frieses even in the off season. Let's do it your

236
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,960
Speaker 1: calls to five on three and on Twitter, folks, I'll

237
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,720
Speaker 1: get to your questions. I swear hashtag Giants chest swear

238
00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,480
Speaker 1: on the air. Let's swear. Let's go to Chuck in

239
00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,880
Speaker 1: New York Online. Four damn. Let's lead off with Chuck.

240
00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,560
Speaker 1: What's up? Chuck? I can Chuck, what's up? I'm the

241
00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:39,280
Speaker 1: giant than good. But I want to say right if

242
00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:46,560
Speaker 1: they can give him some time in the pick your pocket,

243
00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:51,719
Speaker 1: he is all you got to do protection if you

244
00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:58,200
Speaker 1: can't catch him pretting he needs time in the partet

245
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:08,120
Speaker 1: and it's a give him time him pocket. Thank you.

246
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate that's great, Chuck. We appreciate that. Thank you

247
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,800
Speaker 1: very much. I like the I like the if they

248
00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,720
Speaker 1: give him time in the pocket that he'll pick their pocket.

249
00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520
Speaker 1: That's cool. What are the odds that's like pulled the

250
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,880
Speaker 1: Tino's like, Dad, I know it's not I don't falls Dad,

251
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,280
Speaker 1: And that's not falls Dad, But it could be in

252
00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,800
Speaker 1: some imaginary worlds, Thank you, Chuck, in like Earth three

253
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,200
Speaker 1: where or that could be like or what that could

254
00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,240
Speaker 1: be is that have pulled the Tino like stumbled into

255
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,000
Speaker 1: a time machine and he went like and that's like

256
00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,000
Speaker 1: the old polled to Tino coming back to the present saying, Eli,

257
00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,679
Speaker 1: I could still do it. I love it. Great call.

258
00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 1: He makes a good point. Great call, and I think

259
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people will agree with him that if

260
00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,319
Speaker 1: you do give him some time, he's still got a

261
00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,079
Speaker 1: little he's got a little time to play. Look and

262
00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,680
Speaker 1: again we're not saying he's the perfect player. We're not

263
00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,440
Speaker 1: telling you he's the top five quarterback, but the right

264
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,040
Speaker 1: situation around him you can still succeed with him as

265
00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,319
Speaker 1: your quarterback. People need to understand number one, how durable

266
00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: Eli Manning has been over his career. Number Two, how

267
00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,120
Speaker 1: smart he is, the experience he has on the field.

268
00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,040
Speaker 1: It's like having another offensive coordinator live on the field. Okay,

269
00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, he still can make some throws. He still

270
00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,680
Speaker 1: can't make some throws. You know he can't. But you

271
00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,840
Speaker 1: saw some of the throws he made during the season.

272
00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,440
Speaker 1: It was a game he threw the ball down the

273
00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,840
Speaker 1: field yards again, it was the Shepherd catch against the Colts.

274
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:38,400
Speaker 1: There you go. So anyways, go five on three, Antonio Manhattan, Antonio,

275
00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,680
Speaker 1: what up? Hey? What's going on? Catch? Everything going? Happy

276
00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,679
Speaker 1: New Year? You too, buddy, How are you? I just

277
00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400
Speaker 1: wanted to touch base on Dave Gentleman that you know,

278
00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,000
Speaker 1: this is I think that the spotlight should definitely be

279
00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,480
Speaker 1: on him this off season because he's been relatively quiet. Really,

280
00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,800
Speaker 1: he's been pretty much you know, anonymous with us um

281
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,840
Speaker 1: with with just the fans or the media this entire season.

282
00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,440
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously he was sick and and hopefully

283
00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,679
Speaker 1: he's doing better from that so well, and it's I

284
00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,040
Speaker 1: can just tell you it has nothing to do with

285
00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,439
Speaker 1: him being sick. Dave Gettleman's philosophy is that during the season,

286
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,560
Speaker 1: it's the head coaches team and the reason he doesn't

287
00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,000
Speaker 1: like to talk during the season, and I was surprised

288
00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,000
Speaker 1: when when he didn't do the bye week to meet

289
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,040
Speaker 1: with the media because that's what Jered Reese used to do.

290
00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,160
Speaker 1: But Dave is a firm believer in during the season,

291
00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560
Speaker 1: the voice of the team is the head coach. Now,

292
00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,920
Speaker 1: if there's something that's general manager related, then yeah, I'm

293
00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,280
Speaker 1: sure he'll he'll talk, but don't expect him to be

294
00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,120
Speaker 1: somebody that during the season you're going to hear from

295
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,440
Speaker 1: a lot. And I think the next time we'll probably

296
00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,400
Speaker 1: hear from him is that the combine would be my

297
00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560
Speaker 1: guess got it? Well, here's the thing about it that

298
00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of like I have a bone to pick with him,

299
00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,200
Speaker 1: and that it's just that you know, at the beginning

300
00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,280
Speaker 1: of the year, you know he treated away uh, I

301
00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,920
Speaker 1: forgot who was there with the Senator Vikings, but Brett.

302
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,760
Speaker 1: What was the draft pick that he traded for him?

303
00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,800
Speaker 1: He got a seventh round pickback for Prett Jumps. Okay,

304
00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,920
Speaker 1: so a seventh round draft pick. Then he traded Damon Harrison,

305
00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840
Speaker 1: and he traded Eli Apple and he treated him also

306
00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,600
Speaker 1: for late pick Harrison. Well, Harrison was a fifth and

307
00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,800
Speaker 1: eli Apple was a four. Right, in my opinion, those

308
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,920
Speaker 1: picks have no value at all in terms of helping

309
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,280
Speaker 1: us get up to the top. Um And and I

310
00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,520
Speaker 1: just feel like, what do you mean there at the top?

311
00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,400
Speaker 1: There at six? What do you mean get up to

312
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,720
Speaker 1: the top? Antonio? What do you mean by that? You

313
00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,600
Speaker 1: mean in terms of winning a title? You mean they're

314
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 1: moving up in the first round, moving up or not

315
00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,320
Speaker 1: even to the first one, because that's definitely not gonna happen,

316
00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,680
Speaker 1: but even moving into the third round. Well, and I

317
00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,600
Speaker 1: think I think they can. I don't think you can

318
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 1: get an extra two, and I don't I don't even

319
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800
Speaker 1: think you can move from the second to the first.

320
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,760
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, I don't think that's possible.

321
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,560
Speaker 1: But if you want to trade the sixth overall pick

322
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and package that with your second

323
00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680
Speaker 1: four that you got in the Eli Apple trade from

324
00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,400
Speaker 1: the same I think you can move into the back

325
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,840
Speaker 1: end of the third round. I don't see why you

326
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,280
Speaker 1: would have been able to move up ten or fifteen

327
00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,400
Speaker 1: picks where that's where we gonna want to see. I mean,

328
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be you know what I'm saying,

329
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,880
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be judged so much on this off season.

330
00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,720
Speaker 1: Our defense needs a lot of help, a lot of

331
00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,800
Speaker 1: bodies about Giants. And that's not even uh get him

332
00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,560
Speaker 1: his fault, but the Giants have ignored the defensive line

333
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,040
Speaker 1: and the linebackers forever because of Reese. I don't know,

334
00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,200
Speaker 1: he just maybe didn't like, you know, targeting those things

335
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 1: there was better value whatever it is this off season

336
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080
Speaker 1: with all these picks. Listen, if he hits on these

337
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,680
Speaker 1: late draft picks, he's going to be looked as a goat.

338
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,560
Speaker 1: But if but if he doesn't, if he just gets

339
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,440
Speaker 1: bust with those late draft picks, then I feel like

340
00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360
Speaker 1: he just created bigger holes because again, we could have

341
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,880
Speaker 1: had Snacks here for at least one more yearn again, Antonio,

342
00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,600
Speaker 1: but this is my point. Snax wasn't gonna be here

343
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,960
Speaker 1: this year, and that's why they trade them. They were

344
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,800
Speaker 1: going to let him go regardless. So they figured they

345
00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,640
Speaker 1: let him go though well for salary cap considerations, and

346
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 1: that was the process of wanting to move Dalvin Thomlins

347
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,600
Speaker 1: into his natural position. They believe Dalvin Thomlinson is a

348
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,160
Speaker 1: noose tackle. They believe b J. Hill was a three

349
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,840
Speaker 1: technique As long as Snacks was here, Thomlinson was playing

350
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 1: the three technique and b J Hill was playing the

351
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,600
Speaker 1: five technique. They wanted to get their young players playing

352
00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,840
Speaker 1: the spots they believe they will be playing here long term.

353
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,640
Speaker 1: And look at b J Hill did, and he did

354
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 1: real good at the three technique and Thomlinson had a

355
00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,560
Speaker 1: good year at those tackles, right, but b J Hill

356
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,160
Speaker 1: was gonna get those sacks regardless you take out Snacks

357
00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,920
Speaker 1: Dre in past situation. Well, I would have to look

358
00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960
Speaker 1: at what downs b J Hill got his sacks on.

359
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you got him on second or third,

360
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,960
Speaker 1: but I see your point. Yeah, no, yeah, definitely, And

361
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,199
Speaker 1: I agree with you guys. It's true. You know you

362
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,879
Speaker 1: do want to move Snacks in the stuff because you

363
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 1: do want to put Thompson in the in the situation.

364
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,639
Speaker 1: I get that, but it's not my My thing is

365
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 1: what you guys. Those picks now gotta gotta pay off

366
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,480
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, you left the big

367
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,159
Speaker 1: you lest a big a home, so now it's like,

368
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,639
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with that, and you know

369
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,040
Speaker 1: what I want, and a tony real quick. My point is, though,

370
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 1: you aren't leaving a hole with Snacks because Tomlinson took

371
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,399
Speaker 1: his spot and Hill took the three technique spots. So

372
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 1: you don't have a hole as um uh as soon

373
00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,520
Speaker 1: as Snack Antonio, honestly, honestly looking at the tape, in

374
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 1: my opinion, I don't think Tomlinson is as good of

375
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 1: a run stop or Snacks Harrison, but again that's a

376
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 1: high bar. Damon Snacks Harrison is the best run stuffing

377
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,080
Speaker 1: tackle in the league, so exactly right. So I'm not

378
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,679
Speaker 1: taking a shot of Dalvin. I think he did a

379
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 1: good job. Was he as good as Snacks? No, but

380
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 1: that's fine. I think more of the problems you had

381
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: with the run defense in the second half of the

382
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,919
Speaker 1: year from looking at all the tape I've looked at

383
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, second level linebackers and even the

384
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,840
Speaker 1: safety is coming down to help too. That to me

385
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 1: is where you had the bigger problem. Let me let

386
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 1: me just tell you, Antonio. Let me just tell you

387
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 1: one thing. John and I don't know everything, and either

388
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,879
Speaker 1: do you, and I will I will tell you that

389
00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,920
Speaker 1: a lot of time teams move on players for different reasons.

390
00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. And I think when you

391
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 1: look at the cornerback that applies especially, so you know,

392
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 1: and it's also and you also, what are teams that

393
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: are winning these days? Look at the average age of

394
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: their teams. This team is trying to get younger, not older.

395
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: Now Apple was young, but Snacks was a little bit older.

396
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: But again that kind of goes into my theory of

397
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 1: what things happened. Okay, this is it happens everywhere. It

398
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 1: happens everywhere with every team. Look at the Steelers, look

399
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: at the look at things that they're going on. Without

400
00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 1: these teams, things happen three So you never know. Like

401
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 1: I said, we don't know because we're not we're not

402
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: in those rooms. We don't know what that. So the

403
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: last thing that I want to say is in terms

404
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 1: of the draft, you know, I know we need a

405
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 1: quarterback so bad, and it all depends on what we

406
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: see in the scouting combines, in the combines for these

407
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, both Murray and Haskins. Uh. But if again

408
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 1: it pays a scattle mistakes swiss word where he says,

409
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: you know he drafted the best available, and you know

410
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks are not the best available. I hope we've

411
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: down the draft pick sales sales draft pis for next year,

412
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: or at least that way we could play around and

413
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: with the going down the draft, we can now use

414
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 1: those you know, bottom tier draft picks that we have

415
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, seventh round, and we could just

416
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, kind of mumbling them up and try to

417
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 1: see if we could just stay in those mid rounds.

418
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: Gentleman had a really good draft last at least the

419
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: first three rounds, and I just I wish he stays

420
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: in that section of the first three rounds. Um you know,

421
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: in this draft coming up. And that's all I'm gonna say.

422
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: It's good until you appreciate the call man good stuff.

423
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: A couple of things that he said down to touch

424
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 1: on one. He said he thinks the spotlights on Gentleman

425
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: this offseason, while the spotlights on every general manager every

426
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: off season. I mean, this is their time to do

427
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: their thing. This is how you build a team. And

428
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: he's right. Those day three picks, I'm not gonna say

429
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: there without value, but it's hard to find players on

430
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: Day three of the draft, no matter who you are.

431
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: But the good thing is that when you have multiple

432
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: swings of the bat, you've got a better chance to

433
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 1: hit the home run. So, and you know, normally you

434
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: have four day three picks, right, the Giants have seven.

435
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: So let's say you hit on of your day three picks, right, Well,

436
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: if you only have four of them, you've got a

437
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: less than fifty percent chance of finding a guy, right,

438
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: but if you have seven, you have better than fifty

439
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: percent chance to find it a guy. So the more

440
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: swings you have, the better chance you have of Speaking

441
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: of swings, you know the Giants were given to compensatory picks, right, well,

442
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: they they're anticipated to be given to compensatory but that

443
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: is not official yet. So if they were, you know,

444
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: and if you got eleven picks, is he gonna use

445
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 1: all eleven of them? I doubt it. And by the way, Salmon,

446
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you found this so quick, Dan,

447
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 1: very good job. Of b J. Hill's sacks this year,

448
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: only one came on third down, three and a half

449
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: came on first down, and one came on second down,

450
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: So good numbers there. Down how you found that, I'm

451
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: very impressed. He's not gonna tell us somehow he managed

452
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: to pull himself away from his Duyne Haskins YouTube highlights

453
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: to five b J Hills. Do you actually have him

454
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: listed here too? Wow? So let's say the ones against

455
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: the Bears where two on first down, one on second

456
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: and was only third down. Sack was the one against

457
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. And here's the funny thing about the about

458
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: b J hill sacks. And I've looked at all them

459
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 1: on tape. There's not a ton of them where he

460
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: just flat out beats the guy in front of him

461
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: and goes in and gets a sack. I think there

462
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: was one, maybe two of those. One one was a

463
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: botch screen, one was where a quarterback scrambles kind of

464
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: into him. So again, Bjo with a nice rookie year.

465
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: But I do think those sack numbers are a little

466
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: bit inflated due to circumstance. It's not like he's Aaron Donald,

467
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, you know, ripping people and you know, swimming

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: over guys left and right right there. But they're there, obviously,

469
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: And he's a rookie too for a tackle to even

470
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: to get that number. And what's good about that is

471
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: that he's gonna come in next year with a lot

472
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: of confidence and experience. That's what you need, you know.

473
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: That's why they wanted those guys to play a lot

474
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: of snaps this season because you want them to come.

475
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: They're young, they're the you know, they're the face of

476
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: that off defensive line, and they're gonna get more. There's

477
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna be more guys coming in here playing D line

478
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: next year. I can promise you that very thick draft

479
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: when it comes to those kinds of players. Absolutely. The

480
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: other thing I want to touch on two, and this

481
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: is something we talked about last Friday when we were

482
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: on Jeff. One thing that Dave Gentleman can do in

483
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: this draft is trade down, but not necessarily acquire more

484
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: picks this year. Maybe it acquire some draft capital in

485
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: when there's a anticipated to be a much larger group

486
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that could potentially be first round picks. Because,

487
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: as we talked about, the most important thing Dave Gentleman

488
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: is going to do in his tenure as general managers

489
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, aside from hiring a coach, and

490
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: it might even be more important than hiring a coach,

491
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: is transitioning from Eli Manning to whomever the next guy

492
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: is going through and the way you do that is

493
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: to give yourself is many assets at your disposal as

494
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: you can, whether it's cap space or young players that

495
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: are valued in trades or draft picks that you can

496
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: use in some way, shape or form in a creative

497
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: fashion to turn into your next quarterback. So I think

498
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: everything the Giants do moving forward, Dave Gentleman understands. I mean,

499
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: he's talked about it. You make a mistake of quarterback,

500
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: accused your franchise for five years. Okay, he knows you

501
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: gotta find the next guy. And I think everything he

502
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: does over this offseason now we'll have in the back

503
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: of his head, all right, how does this affect Tom

504
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find the next guy at quarterback because he's

505
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: not gonna force it. But I think what he'll want

506
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: to do is when he finds the guy he knows

507
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: he wants, or the one or two or three guys

508
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: he knows will be good enough, he wants to have

509
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: the assets to go and get that player. And if

510
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: there's a team out there that wants Haskins and really

511
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: wants him bad, they're gonna do everything they can to

512
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: get above the Giants to go get him. And by

513
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: the way, maybe Haskins is the guy, and maybe sitting

514
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: there and saying and then and they don't have to

515
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: do anything that's possible to But again I'm I'm from

516
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: the belief that Eli does have time left, not much,

517
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: and there has to be an exit strategy, if you will.

518
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: From a business term, you gotta you gotta be prepared.

519
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: And if you want the guy, and then he's the Haskins,

520
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: the guy from Duke whatever, you want him, then you're

521
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna go get him. And then you'll have that that

522
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: conversation and it's probably already been had, but we'll see

523
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: what happens. But I you know, to me, I put

524
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: more credence in one more year with people around Elie

525
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and having a plan of action going into the next season,

526
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: saying to Eli, listen, here's the deal. You're gonna know

527
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: it going into next year. There's not gonna be any

528
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: punches thrown here. You're gonna know what's going on, and

529
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: we are going to transition into the next phase of

530
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: the of the New York Football Giants going forward. We

531
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: want to remind you that Big Book Golf Live is

532
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: presented by cores Light. Download the Coors Light Rewards apt

533
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: to an amazing Giants prizes volts. We have a couple

534
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: open lines if you want to get in talk to

535
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: me and Jeff about the New York Football Giants. We

536
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: have a couple of calls on the line and we'll

537
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: get to you next. Aaron and Rochester is up next.

538
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: What's up, Aaron? How are you? Hey? What's up? Guys?

539
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: How you're doing a long term no call? I've been

540
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: listening though. I want to touch on the free agency,

541
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: but I just want to respond about the call of yesterday. Um.

542
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: At the end of the show, he suggested that we

543
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: are Chumber late math, a lot of picks and hopes

544
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: of getting the trouble loss and kid Lawrence Kid. I

545
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: like the guy, but to try to go to try

546
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: to do that type of method, I don't think it's

547
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna work because we might not. I don't. I don't

548
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: see us in two years be picking, you know, in

549
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: the top ten, So I don't think we would be there.

550
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: What if she doesn't want to come out, I think

551
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: it would be another team, you know. So yeah, look

552
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: the bottom one and and and That's what I said

553
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: to him. You can't just lock and focus on one

554
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: guy two years from now. Too many things can happen

555
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: between now and then. You accumulate assets, you go after

556
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks you like. If you get them, great, If

557
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: you don't, you move on to the next guy. But

558
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: you don't. But but but you don't give up the

559
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: I was for someone you're not convinced is going to

560
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: be really good. And and I will tell you this,

561
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: if you're sitting there on draft day and there hasn't

562
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: been any deals made where nobody's coming up above the

563
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: New York Giants and Haskins is there at quarterback, you

564
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: would have done your due diligence to know. And if

565
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: if he is the best player on the board, and

566
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: you're from that philosophy, they're taking him. But I don't

567
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna happen exactly. I look and um.

568
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: The thing with free agency, I was listening to y'all

569
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: to a couple of days ago, and I brought up

570
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: Shane Ray. I think he would be an excellent person

571
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: to bring and if we can get him. Um. But

572
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: I was also argue with my nephew Boat and I

573
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: called years ago when Fizzy job fig Joe was gonna

574
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: be a free agent, but he was younger. It'll be

575
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot more money at the time, and I threw out,

576
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: what if, what if? What would you think if we

577
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: wish to bring Figy in one year? Would that be

578
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: a good idea or not? I think it would be

579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: cool if we draft the Hackings kid and maybe that

580
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: like give Eli extra you know, he come out next

581
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: this year and ball out. And you have Fitzgerald, who

582
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: really he had good quarterbacks but not not not a

583
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: team since end Quam Bolden in them when he had

584
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: a nice receiver call around him. I think he'd be

585
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: an excellent possession catcher for US, and I think he

586
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: might rub off something good to O'Dell far as leadership wise, um,

587
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: but not saying Odell don't have leadership. He do. But

588
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: I think a person like um Lorver Fitzgerald be doping

589
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: out in our organization for one year and call it death.

590
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It was just a suggestion. UM,

591
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: I'll take it up the air. Thank you that I love. Okay, Aaron,

592
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Larry Fitzgerald is awesome. Okay. First of all,

593
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, he's a great player, and he

594
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: would be an asset to any team that has him.

595
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: I love Larry Fitzgerald. But here comes the butt. The

596
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: last thing the Giants need is somebody else that needs

597
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: the ball their hands. And Jeff and I talked us

598
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: on our first show after the season was over, as

599
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: it is, you would trouble getting in an Ingram touch.

600
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: Fix that problem with the current loster that we have

601
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: when Beckham was healthy. I mean, Barkley is getting eighty catchers,

602
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Beckham's getting a hundred catches. Shepherd's getting six or seventy

603
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: how many times? Don't need want to throw the ball,

604
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: and that in that scenario, he needs to store up

605
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: fifty times, right, So I'm gonna do that exactly. So

606
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they need another weapon. I know giant

607
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: fans love to bring in weapons. And you know this,

608
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: that and this. I get it, I get it, I

609
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: get it, I get it. You got enough, you have

610
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: plenty of plenty of weapons you have, You've got You

611
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: need protection. You need two more offensive lineman. In my opinion,

612
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: you need pass rushers. And as much as Jiman Brown,

613
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: as much as he did for that offensive line last year,

614
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna see if get Himan goes back and signs him,

615
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: we'll see they may upgrade the position. To something you

616
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: know better than Jaman Brown, which you can get by

617
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: the way I mean, I think I think a lot

618
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: of people have equated a cause and effect of Oh

619
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the Giant, it's got Jamal Brown and they started playing

620
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: a lot better. As to mean that Jamal Brown was

621
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: the reason the team started playing better. I think it

622
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: was more a combination of the types of plays they called,

623
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: how they ran the offense. Now, he was a part

624
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: of it for the offensive line coming together. I'm not

625
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: trying to take all the credit away from him, but

626
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it was more of a Jamal Brown's here

627
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: and the team is playing better, not jim Brown. Jamal

628
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: Brown showed up, and that's why the team is playing better,

629
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And Jimmy Jamal Brown is

630
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: not a perennial All Pro either or in the pro

631
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: bowler guy. He's a good player, okay, And yes he helped.

632
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: He helped with that offensive line, but really part of

633
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: it was the offensive line. When you look at Nate Solder,

634
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: it took him a while to get used to the

635
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: plane next to Hernandez, who was a rookie coming from

636
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: U TAP and we played next to uh A bunch

637
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: of different bunch of different guys and then when then

638
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: you switch to the right side, where so there's a

639
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: lot of little things that you know. And the other

640
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: thing I think Solder had to adjust to with Eli.

641
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I think Brady took such short drops and stepped up

642
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: in the pocket so much. Soldier is usually just riding

643
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: his guy around the quarterback, but that doesn't work with Eli.

644
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: So I think Soldier had to affect his drop and

645
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I think once he did, he

646
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: played a lot better. He did, and that's and that's

647
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: and that's He'll probably tell you that. It's just like anything,

648
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: you have to learn the system. Number one, the second

649
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: of who you're protecting. That's not that's not Brady back,

650
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: there is Helie. Totally different steps, different types of players.

651
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Two five one three on hashtag Giants chat on Twitter

652
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: from A J. Marshall. Do you expect Lorenzo Carter to

653
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: get a bigger role in year two if the Giants

654
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: decide to cut ties with Olivier vernon question. I don't

655
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: think they're going to do that, though, And I've thought

656
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: about this, Jeff, and and this is kind of where

657
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm at on it. You know, the two veterans people

658
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: talk about are Vernon and Jenkins obviously, And look, I

659
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: understand the giants want to get younger, they want to

660
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: try to clean up their cap completely. I understand why

661
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: they will want to make moves on those two guys.

662
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: I get it. But the problem is that you got

663
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: to pay the dead money on their cap on their

664
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: contract goes on the salary cap, and then you gotta

665
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: pay somebody to replace those guys anyway. So I don't

666
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get better production than Vernon or Jenkins

667
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: by using their non dead money to go sign somebody else.

668
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: I think Jenkins and Vernion is still gonna be better

669
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: than whoever you would bring in after you release them.

670
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to win next year and make

671
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which I think both of us think that

672
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: they are, I don't see how you let either one

673
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: of those guys go. Now, if they're gonna say, look,

674
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna take next year, we're gonna throw it away,

675
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna blow this thing up, and

676
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna clean up all our bed contracts and get

677
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: all the veterans out of here and really start new,

678
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: then I can see it. But if you're trying to

679
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: make a playoff run, you're gonna be a better team

680
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: next year with those two guys on the roster. It

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: just what the dead money is. I don't know what

682
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: the vis dead money is. Right, he came here, I

683
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: think things about eight next year. I think it's eight

684
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: for him in seven for Jenkins. That's a lot of money.

685
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: And especially if you're gonna there's gonna be some other

686
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: veterans that you're gonna have to take dead money too.

687
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: That's to start stacking on each other. Next thing. You know,

688
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: you're a twenty million of dead money somewhere. Um and

689
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, is there dead money with the mom A

690
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: at all? There's dead money there and I don't know

691
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: how much it is, but okay, but something there. So

692
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: there is some things to think about, a lot of

693
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: capology that goes into it, exactly. I mean, there really

694
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: is two four, five, one, three, No see will be

695
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's already a pretty darn good player. He's

696
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna he's only gonna get better. Yeah, you know, I

697
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: think he's better in space than he is as a

698
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: pass rusher, though at this point I think he's almost

699
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: better as a stand up blind backer, which makes sense.

700
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: He did more than in college than he did rush

701
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: the pass right now, and that's that's okay. You can

702
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: find a role for him to play in that position.

703
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't not not every guy has to have ten sacks,

704
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, right, but with his length and athleticism, he

705
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: can become a better pass rusher. And I'm sure that's

706
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be working on in the off season.

707
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit late, you know. I

708
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: think he needs to put on a little bit of weight,

709
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of Yeah, makes sense. This is more

710
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: leverage if he will. So anyways, two one four, five,

711
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: one three, let's go to Brandon in New Jersey. He's

712
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: up next. What's up Brandon? If he has? What's going on? Man?

713
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: Are you doing brand? Are doing well? Good? All right?

714
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I want to try to put all of this in

715
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: real quick man. Um. I think I think Jamal Browd

716
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: did make the offensive line played better because he just

717
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: brought energy to the team. And you know, we need

718
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: to just may bring more character players and just like that.

719
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: So this is what I was thinking. Okay, with the Senate,

720
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I think the right guard position could is it's it's

721
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: it's servable enough to get through the season. Jamal is

722
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: a young player, he's an uprising play. I think he

723
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: could grow with the offense a month down people, I'm

724
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: what the other centers. Yesterday the brother was saying that Polly,

725
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: he was thinking about keeping Polly and Um when you

726
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: know po coming back up the energy. I think those

727
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: two guys are good serviable backups, but not siliterified the

728
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: center position. So I think the Giants need to go

729
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Um probably in free agency for right tackle, but not

730
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: There's no good Sinners on free agency, so they might

731
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: have to get the center to the draft. So I think,

732
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: but this is what they could do if they could

733
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: get elock contract down to a serving way. Because to

734
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: get the money down, we will have a lot of

735
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: cap space, and what you think about getting I think

736
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: we could get two premium pass rushes off the free agency. Brandon,

737
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: no way that much money. Do premium pass rushes cost

738
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: you seventeen eighteen million dollars a year and you're not

739
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to get somebody out of free agency. There's

740
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: plenty of them in the draft this year. That's well, okay, Well,

741
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: if that's the case, if I could have one I

742
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: would take Lawrence over Clowney. Lawrence is not coming here.

743
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Lawrence is not leaving the Dallas Cowboys. They have

744
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: nearly a hundred million dollars of cap space. The Cowboys

745
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: are not letting the Marcus Lawrence come to the New

746
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: York Giants. It's not happening. Don't come, don't come, don't come.

747
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: You off, all right, I'm not comming you off. I'm

748
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: just telling you where where when it's not gonna happen,

749
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: and the Marcus Lawrence will not be here next year.

750
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: He's okay, okay, Well I'll take that. If you say

751
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, that's not gonna happen. So we could

752
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: go We could go with Clowney. We could go out

753
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: to Clowney, and we could go after Bobby Massey at

754
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: the right tackle position. And then through the um draft

755
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: we could build death. We could go after a center

756
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: and we could go get another pass rushing back. Compare

757
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: with Clowney and um learning and go get another and

758
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: and and we got too. We got a lot of

759
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: of mad round picks, so we could find some corners

760
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: in the free safety and those mad rounds that could

761
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: be that could play well enough all we probably could

762
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: go after if we constill the right tacle position how

763
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: we need to and the center position in the first

764
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: two rounds, maybe we could find out free safety uh

765
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: by trading up in to the third round or something

766
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: like that and get an extra corner because I don't

767
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: think we're too far off. We just probably just need

768
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: Even if we could get elock contracts down, you don't

769
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: think we could uh be able to get two pass

770
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: rushers up for free agencies. Not I mean you can

771
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: bring into pass rushers not gonna be too premier pass rushers.

772
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how many big contracts do you want to

773
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: put on this roster. I think you have to pay

774
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Landing Collins too, by the way, No, I know, I understand,

775
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: but I think the Giants knee because we was always

776
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: good with three uh legitimate pass rushers with that rotation

777
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: coming in. And I think the defensive line, like Andrell

778
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: Roe was saying at the end of the season that

779
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: he believed that we need to defensive hands the end

780
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: push that cocket he said, the back end will work

781
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: would probably even like lower leveteer guys. If that if

782
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: we could get that push, it works with the front,

783
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: not the back. Oh no, no, I look, I Brandon,

784
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: I agree. I would love to bring in two premier

785
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: pass rushers, but you cannot afford to pay in free

786
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: agency for two premier pass rushers. You're gonna destroy your

787
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: salary cap for years to come. That's my point, Okay,

788
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: So we could go with one pass rushing and get

789
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: the right tackle. I think we need to definitely resign Chep.

790
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: We need to get Chefs signed and build depth through

791
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the free agents and through um through the draft and

792
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: get another of the past Russia and fill that center spot.

793
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: The only thing we need to do the offensive line

794
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: is get the right tackle in the center now, and

795
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: I think we can accomplish that this offseason. Solidify the

796
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: offensive line going forward. I think Elock got at least

797
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: three more years, So if they could rip up the

798
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: contract and get another three years to sign a three

799
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: year contract at a good level each year that he

800
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: gets paid, I think to bring the cap space down

801
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: enough so we could bring in a lot of top

802
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: ten god as far as free agency on the defensive ball,

803
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: and then fill the on the offensive side of the

804
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: ball through the draft. And we do need another receiver.

805
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I think we need a tall receiver, like a receiver

806
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: like the brother was saying yesterday, like how King knicks

807
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: that that we could get that back, show the back

808
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: coming into the bone playbook. If we don't saw him

809
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: on Laddimore back, which we should, but he's just been

810
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: so injury pomp So I don't know we need a

811
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: tall receiver. And that's fine, but I don't think you

812
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: can spend big money on a tour receiver. You know,

813
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: we could find one in the draft. That's fine. I

814
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: got a problem with that. That's okay. We can find

815
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: one in the draft at um. Yeah, pretty much. Just

816
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to get the two defensive entas, to get that line pushing,

817
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: get another two corners, get a free safety, get the

818
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: right tackle, win the center, and how you gonna thank you, Brandon.

819
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: We could get it. It could be done this off season.

820
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If we could get elock contract

821
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: down and go after what we need in free agency,

822
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: far as I would go after Clowney. What you think

823
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: about Clowney, I think he's fitting good with our skins.

824
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: We're going to have the money for clowning. I mean,

825
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: keep in mind, if you signed, if you want to

826
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: spend the money on ja Daveon Clowney. He's gonna ask

827
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: for Aaron Donald level money. He's he's gonna want a

828
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: five year, hundred million dollar contract. That's what he's going

829
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: to want. Okay. Uh, If you do sign your Davian

830
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: Clowney and then you figure out where to get Landon

831
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Collins back, that's it. You're done. You're out of money.

832
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah about Landing, we definitely got a good land and

833
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: done too. I would think, well, most so we just

834
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: maybe need to just bring in one pass resident and

835
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: re signed Landing Collins and shut and just go in

836
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: the draft and try to get what we need. Shepherds

837
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: not a free agent. You remember that the Stone shepherds.

838
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: The Stone shepherds on the final year of his rookie deal.

839
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything on him. They saw season.

840
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: But but you only have one year left. Okay, that's fine,

841
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: that's not a problem with that. Thank you, Brandon, appreciate

842
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: the call, buddy. Good stuff. Guys. It's not like the

843
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Giants are sitting there with the jillions three years ago

844
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: when they went and spent two hundred million dollars on

845
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: the defense. No, they have they have a they don't

846
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: even have a third of that. No no, no, no,

847
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no

848
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: no no, no no no. The last figure I heard

849
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: him again, this is just what that until we get it,

850
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: it was like thirty five million dollars in free agency.

851
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: That's that drives up very quickly, very very quickly. And

852
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: again we don't know what the numbers are. But we

853
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: don't even know what the NFL cap is right now.

854
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: And it depends who they end up tendering and all

855
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, so that remains up in the air.

856
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: But it's guys, Dave Gentleman is not somebody that's going

857
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to go out there and you know, spend like a

858
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: lunatic in free agency. So so where that got you

859
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: three years ago? It gave you a one year bump,

860
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: which you were fortunate because you got a lot of

861
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: defensive scores that year. You want a lot of close games.

862
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: And then what happened. You don't build via prange, so

863
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: you build via the draft, and and it just what

864
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, is could determine whether Over's back or not.

865
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: It just just kind of has a lot to do

866
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: with it. But your your guy, Dan, But what's his

867
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: last name Salma. No, not draft guy. Oh, Dame Burglar,

868
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Dame Burger. He had told you the guys that this

869
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: draft you could get good draft picks from the D

870
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: line position going into the third round. So and by

871
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: the way, those guys you don't have to pay them.

872
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: There's a rookie salary cap that's you know, so you

873
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: can get some good depth with those guys and maybe

874
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: get a good player in there. But you know there's

875
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: gonna be some money freed up here because you have

876
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: June one cuts. You have all kinds of things that

877
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: that are manipulated by the cap going forward, and so

878
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to build that number up, and you're

879
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna have an idea going into free agency how much

880
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: you want to spend as a team and where your

881
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: needs are and do those need is the need available?

882
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Is it out there? You can I want to sign

883
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: a defensive linement and you're not really happy about the

884
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: who's out there, then you're not gonna sign him, especially

885
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: if it's Clowney, who's gonna want He's gonna want seventy

886
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: million dollar signing boats hell, I don't know, it's got

887
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He might he serious he might.

888
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you gonna do that? You're gonna

889
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: give him a ten year contract? And guys, you so

890
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: that got you? You saw where it got you. And

891
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: by the way clenties, he's never healthy either, by the

892
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: way you want to go give all that might, well, guy,

893
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: it's never healthy. He's hurt. Old. Every time I look

894
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: at injury report every weekend questionable, questionable, need questionable, questionable

895
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: me every week. The Giants have always been one of

896
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: those teams that have done well, and like they go

897
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: out and get free agents, they've done Look at if

898
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: you look at the way that Jerry rees he was

899
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: he was better at picking free agents and he was

900
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: picking draft picks. That's for sure, okay, And historically the

901
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Giants have always done well with with free agents. I

902
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: was one of them your seven years, I guess that's

903
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: a good one. Since then things have gone really well.

904
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: But my point is that you know, at some point

905
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: in time, you look at a lot of these teams

906
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: that are being successful as they're building through the draft

907
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: the only way to do it. And you've got to

908
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: be able to do that when you have going into

909
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: the NFL draft in two thousand nineteen, if you do

910
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: have eleven draft picks, build your roster. This team has

911
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: been torn apart and rebuilt over the last season. However

912
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: many guys are left? Is it? Is it down to

913
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: less than fifteen now if you don't count the guys

914
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: that were on I R you were game there you

915
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: go okay, so um, you gotta go young these days,

916
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: you really do two words cost control cost control of cost,

917
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: controlling the guys you draft and you control them for

918
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And value. We're getting good

919
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: value out of these young guys, you know. And again

920
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: culture bringing in good guys, building the locker room. This

921
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: team is so much different than it was a year

922
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: before when the locker room fell apart. I mean, if

923
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: you want to take a look at the teams in

924
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, okay, and take a look to

925
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: see how they got there. And I know, and I know,

926
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: I know Giant fans don't want to hear it. And

927
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: that's where I was going to go. They have one

928
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the league. They drafted Jalen Smith,

929
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: they drafted Latin Vanderesh, they drafted Michael Galt, they drafted

930
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, they drafted Zequelly, They drafted Byron Jones, they

931
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: drafted to Marcus Lawrence, they drafted Randy Gregory. I mean,

932
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: look at the list. You know you always think of

933
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Is this big free agents spender, throwing money

934
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: all the plays. That's not how they operate anymore. That's

935
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: why they have a hundred million dollars to spend. I mean,

936
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and those are all draft and they're probably gonna save

937
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: money on Sean Lee, where they're probably gonna be a

938
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: let go now because Laye Vanderesh is playing so well,

939
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: there'll be a June first cut. They might end up

940
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: letting go of of of Crawford, who also makes a

941
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: lot of money on the defense. One it's a good players.

942
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they're going to negotiate that, but they are. And

943
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: look now they're gonna run the troll, but they have

944
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: to resign all their draft picks. Now. They're gonna have

945
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: to pay Dak Prescott in a year he has one

946
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: year left on his toe, who's drafted the same year

947
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Shepherd was um. I think Byron Jones is a free

948
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: agent this year. That's someone they got to take care of.

949
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: They already franchise tag to Marcus Lawrence last year. So

950
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: these are the guys that they're gonna have to pay.

951
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: But it's you're in such a better position to pay

952
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: your own guys that you drafted. Why you know so

953
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: much more about them then the guy you're getting from

954
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: another two if you can sign them right of course,

955
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: and if you want to make it makes it tough,

956
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: It makes it difficult because these guys want to test

957
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: the market, they want to go out and maybe another

958
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: team is gonna give me ten times for you know,

959
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: ten percent more. Yeah, but there are there are tools

960
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: that teams can use to keep their own draft picks

961
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: if they want, like the franchise tag. If if the

962
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: Giants want letton columns here next year, guess what he's

963
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna be here. That's he doesn't have much of a

964
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: choice in the matter, just the way it is, and

965
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: he already settled played with franchise tag, which frankly based

966
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: on Landing and how I've talked to him, that didn't

967
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: surprise me at all. Sure the dude wants to play football,

968
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: will be well compensated for it, and holding out doesn't

969
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: get you go ask on it all back room Jr.

970
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: How it worked out for him showing up to work

971
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: and being a professional. That's how he got his contract,

972
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: not by holding out right, No, hold that doesn't doesn't

973
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: work unless you get a lot of leverage. Go ask

974
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: leaving on Bell. How that hold out? What went for him?

975
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: How'd that go? Huh? Let say out the whole year? Yeah,

976
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: and he lost like seventeen million dollars and he's gonna

977
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: expect to get it back this year. We'll see if

978
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: he does. Good luck not at a running back position.

979
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Max in Newark, New Jersey is up next. Hey Max, Max, Hi, guys,

980
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Thanks you calling it. Jeff

981
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: also wants to say thank you for your service and

982
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: also you're you're inside. I love when when you and

983
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Dave get on the lines because we really get a

984
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: pair of perspective. Whatever, we appreciate. You're welcome. Thank you.

985
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Um he's okay. Just to give you a background on

986
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: the questions that have first game I ever saw the

987
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: um well, I was six years old and it was

988
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor and Joe Siesman. Ever since then, I've been

989
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: I love the Giants and I love defense. So based

990
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: on that information and based on this draft, would you

991
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: be surprised if almost all the draft picks this year

992
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: is on the defense as opposed to we know we

993
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: need a right tackle. But do you think most of

994
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: the draft, most of the picks that you don't they

995
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: might have to share, be predicated towards the defense. It wouldn't, Max,

996
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: But I think they have so many in eleven. I

997
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: don't think you could pick eleven defensive guys. But I

998
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if the vast, vast majority are I

999
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: would put, I would put a seventy. I would say seventy.

1000
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: The picks will likely be on defense because they have

1001
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: to be right. I mean, look at we need a

1002
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of help at all levels. The only needs you

1003
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: really have on offense is on the right side of

1004
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and that's where your needs are on offense.

1005
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: Maybe another tip in you know to to to play

1006
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: behind evening or maybe a big wide receiver. Maybe maybe

1007
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: maybe a fullback if may depending what you do. Alija Penny,

1008
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: maybe I will tell you that. But Scott Simonson made

1009
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: him name for himself and Penny and Penny did okay too.

1010
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: So I think your needs max on defense. I think

1011
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: you want to and two and real quickly on offense,

1012
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: you want to keep the continuity. You gotta. You got

1013
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: a good thing going to the last four games of

1014
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: the year. You really did. Yeah, but most of them

1015
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: were gonna have to come from defense. And the reason

1016
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean this year it's going to be really interesting

1017
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: because of like you mentioned, we gotta try to get

1018
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: Land the Connals back. I really believe we need to

1019
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: get them back. I don't wouldn't want to let go

1020
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: of Vernon for especially not Jenkins, because after Jenkins are

1021
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: our cornerbacks are not that good the w web. I

1022
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: believe it is a good back up. I don't believe

1023
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: it's a good number two. So I would try to

1024
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: use the upper rounds of the draft for either edge rusher,

1025
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: maybe a coverage linebacker because we had a couple of

1026
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: problems with that and and our corners and free safety. So, uh,

1027
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: we're on the same page, Max, we agree with you.

1028
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: I think we're totally on the same page as you.

1029
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Especially the one question, the last question to have, and

1030
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: I'll take off the air, is h do you think

1031
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: there will be a number two quarters cornerback that we

1032
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: might be able to find on the free agent market?

1033
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: If um, you know, as opposed to the draft or

1034
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: And I know you don't stay into your research on

1035
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: the draft so much that your video, But do you

1036
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: think there's a good cornerback in the draft or would

1037
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: you prefer to get one in free agency? And thank

1038
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: you for I appreciate it, Max, I don't have a

1039
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: preference corner whether it or in past, in free agency

1040
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: or in the draft. Corners aren't quite as pricey as

1041
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: edge rushers, but the ain't cheap in free agency. Their

1042
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: corners are a premium position because of the high flying,

1043
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, nature of the National Football League with the

1044
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: way people are passing the ball these days. But so no,

1045
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: I've got no problem. If you want to spend the

1046
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: high pick on a cornerback, go right ahead. But I

1047
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: think they also they also want Sam Beale, who they

1048
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: picked in the third round of the supplemental Draft last

1049
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: year and then heard his shoulder and he was out

1050
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: for the year. They hope he can be a guy

1051
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: that is heavy in that cornerback rotation. And I think

1052
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: they like what they saw out of Grant Haley in

1053
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: the slot the last half of the year too, So

1054
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: I think those are two other young guys along If

1055
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: they bring back b w Web, I agree. I think

1056
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: he's a rotational corner and he's a good guy to

1057
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: have there too, because he can play inside, he can

1058
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: play outside, he could play on special teams. He's a

1059
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: lot of different days. Starter, he's a good field yeah,

1060
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: I agree, and he's some depth, but I think the

1061
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: fourth cornerback. The other thing is that the safety position

1062
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: has to be addressed. Okay, you gotta have free safety.

1063
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: Free safety. Specifically, you have to find a free safety.

1064
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have to make a decision on landing Collins,

1065
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: whether you want to franchise him and pay him that

1066
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: kind of money or you say, you know what, we're

1067
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: gonna go a totally different direction and go find someone else.

1068
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a decision that will be made soon.

1069
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: When is the win? No, not soon? Did that The

1070
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: franchise decision, I believe is the end of February. If

1071
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. I think it's right before the combine.

1072
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: He's one more at the combine. We're always talking about

1073
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: what guys have been franchise tagged, So I think the

1074
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: deadline is right at the end of February, beginning of

1075
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: markin When is free agency this year? Second? Second week

1076
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: of Mark. I'm not sure exactly the day, Dan, I'll

1077
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: look it up. Yeah, well, I don't think you can

1078
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: have enough good cornerbacks. But if you have, if you

1079
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of money in your free agent

1080
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: pool to go out and get people, the draft is

1081
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: a place you can go to get cornerbacks. Sure, and

1082
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to go get you know, you don't

1083
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: have to go pay Marcus Peters type that's gonna cost

1084
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: you a lot of money or or or you know,

1085
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: go pay for some you know, super duper number one cornerback,

1086
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: but you can pay for a guy that can be

1087
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: solid for you and and be a guy that plays

1088
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: you guys your second or third corner. Why not four

1089
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: or five? One? Three? And Greedy Williams is probably gonna

1090
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: be the first corner off the board out of Lsu'm

1091
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: be mistaken right then, thank you, And he'll probably the

1092
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: first guy you know off the board at the corner position.

1093
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: He will be a top ten pick. So that's the guy.

1094
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Giants will heavily scout and he'll be

1095
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't make sits six, I'm sure he was out el

1096
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: as you rested a bunch of guys in that Bowl game,

1097
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: didn't they? Yeah? I think well, I think it was hurt.

1098
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that's becoming more and more of a trend

1099
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: where guys don't want to play in these bowl games. Unfortunately,

1100
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: the wonder if the bowl system is going to survive.

1101
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: You know, you've got nobody going to these games in

1102
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot of these places, and then you have nobody

1103
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: playing in them. So it's tough. I got an idea

1104
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: expand the playoffs and then do away with a lot

1105
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: of the other bowl games. The problem is that the

1106
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl holds a lot of cloud and they're gonna

1107
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: fight to the bitter end, and Dan Salmon will be

1108
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: on the front lines waving his rose. What's that the

1109
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is being played. I appreciate you trying to

1110
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: send me to Pasadena. Thank you for that. I would

1111
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: love to go watch the Senior Bowl in Mobile, in

1112
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: in Pasadena, California. Unfortunately, I'll be in Mobile, Alabama for

1113
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, which is a little little just a

1114
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: little bit different than which is playing the Senior Ball

1115
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: this year. Or in Pasadena. There's a bowl with some

1116
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: sort There is a game College All Star Game is

1117
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna being played at the Rose Bowl. Yeah, really that

1118
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: I thought I saw it the other day on Twitter.

1119
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: College ball game at the Rose Bowl. That's what I'm

1120
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: looking at. Well, ah, well the Rose Bowls there all

1121
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: this maybe college All Star West East Rest Shrine and

1122
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: they playing that game there. Come on, Dan, you should

1123
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: know this stuff. You know where to find all the

1124
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: other statistics around everything. Um, is it the nfl p

1125
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: A Collegiate Bowl. Oh yeah, that was on January and

1126
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: the new one this year we're playing on January nineteen,

1127
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: so it will be the nfl p A Collegiate Bowl,

1128
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: which is you know, I think it's the little lesser

1129
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: of the East West Shrine maybe or similar to it.

1130
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but um, yeah, so that that'll be

1131
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: played the Rose Bowl. You're correct. You confused hie out

1132
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: of us, But we we but we figured it out.

1133
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: I knew I saw it somewhere because there was there

1134
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: were some guys that were standing. They were in the

1135
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: middle of the field. With the Pasadena February nineteen first

1136
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: eight clubs can franchise or transition tag somebody and before

1137
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: and March fifth is the deadline for clubs to day

1138
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: a franchise tag. But the the deadline is the fifth,

1139
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: so you can franchise between the February ninete and March five,

1140
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: and then you have the unofficial start of free agency

1141
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: from the eleventh of the thirteenth, when everyone gets signed

1142
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: but they don't actually sign, and then on March thirteenth,

1143
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: the league year becomes official, and then you have the

1144
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: what's the thing that people can remember they did this

1145
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: last year? You can say you're going there before it starts,

1146
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: just because of the league year or whatever. You know,

1147
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: how how free agency I'm gonna go in Napolis, but

1148
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: it doesn't start until next week. But this is worth going.

1149
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: They agree in principle. How they I wish I would

1150
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: have had that when I was a free agent. That

1151
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: would have been great. You are one of those like

1152
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: first after midnight phone calls for anybody ever. I was, oh,

1153
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: really from tell me the story Giants, that team right there,

1154
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: the Coughlin it the of course he was on the

1155
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: phone for you. It was actually um uh jim Fossil,

1156
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fossil. Huh yep yep. I had found out that

1157
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: the year before. They tried to trade for me, but

1158
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: comegren my guy home said no. So they waited and

1159
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: I went and then next year, Oh one, I got

1160
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: the call from Mr Fossil? How about that? And you

1161
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: came running And if the rules weren't affected back then,

1162
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: I would have done it, you know, before that in principle,

1163
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: so you were almost an in principal guy. Almost very

1164
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: good to a one. Not to say that I didn't

1165
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: know that before kind of hint hint, wink wink kind

1166
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: of thing, Jeff, That would imply some sort of illegal

1167
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: collusion that I cannot speak. And that was going to

1168
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: happen because Jim Fossil was the offensive coordinator in Arizona

1169
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: when I was there, and he used to come to

1170
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: my golf tournament every year that I had in Phoenix.

1171
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: And were you surprise? And this is what I hear?

1172
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: I was in here, So I'm just gonna go on

1173
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: what I heard. Were you surprised at how much Jim

1174
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Fossil had changed from when he left the Arizona as

1175
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator what he was as the head coach

1176
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: and you got here? Very different guy, right, yeah, very different,

1177
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: very very different, very different. Yeah, I see that was

1178
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: four to Oh's call it, oh three, because when I came,

1179
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: so that was Fossil's last year here right. Yeah, so

1180
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: that and from ten years and those ten years there

1181
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of change those big glasses. Yeah yeah,

1182
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: but I will tell you I Jim was a good guy,

1183
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: good guy to me. Good good coach. Um, you know,

1184
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: pretty good coach. I mean you think about what he did,

1185
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: it's an offensive coach absolutely. Um but yeah, definitely nine.

1186
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: And I will not make you elaborate on that. I'll

1187
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: just tell you there's a lot of a lot of

1188
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: difference still in North Carolina is up next? They Phil? Yes,

1189
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm gonna before I get to my name point,

1190
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: which is kind of my analysis of ELI, and just

1191
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: make a comment on John. I think you talked about

1192
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: the keeping the two high price defensive players we have

1193
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: currently on the roster, and you know excluding Landon is

1194
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna get some money. But uh Olivia and uh jack

1195
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: Rabbit and uh, I guess I guess my my view is, uh,

1196
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna uh punt one, I guess that's a

1197
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: reference to Jeff there punt one. Um, I would probably

1198
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: punt m Jack Rabbit because of um, I don't know, Uh,

1199
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: sometimes a disinterest issue, lack of focus issue. Uh still certainly,

1200
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: uh you know when he's on the field, he does,

1201
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: he gives you what he has. Still, I hear you.

1202
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: But I think the one the one question I'll have

1203
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: for you. If you were to rank the Giants best

1204
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: defensive players this year, one through three or one through five,

1205
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: how would you rank them? Five? Okay, good, good question. Um, Yeah,

1206
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a slim pickings. Uh, the

1207
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: defense was all down, but I guess I would put yeah,

1208
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: being DETI Jack Rabbit would be in the top five.

1209
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to do so. Even though you

1210
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: do save some money on the cap by making those moves,

1211
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: you then have to replace those guys. You're looking at

1212
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: your best cover corner who was put on the other

1213
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: team's best wide receiver in every game and even played

1214
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: in the slot to cover the other team's best wide receiver,

1215
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: and your best pass rusher. Those those are too real.

1216
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean, look how much money you have to spend

1217
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: to get those guys here to begin with. Replacing them

1218
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: is going to be just as costly. Yeah, but that's

1219
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: you know. I that's where I think the only option

1220
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: would be jennisoning one, not too Jennison one. And and

1221
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: if they are going to do that, my prediction and

1222
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: is going to be Jack Rabbit. So uh, we'll we'll

1223
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: wait and see. I guess, I guess it could be

1224
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: a Postgume first cut. And so also, and as Jeff said,

1225
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: sometimes there are things behind moves like that that we

1226
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: don't know about too. So I don't know what Dave

1227
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: Gentleman's thinking in that record. Yeah, yeah, we're not privy

1228
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: to that, so which is probably a good thing. Yeah. Um. Anyway,

1229
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: So so one thing, one observation on Eli. The thing

1230
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: I noticed with Elie and I'm an ELI supporter, you know,

1231
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: uh living die with the Elies drives, you know in games. Um,

1232
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that I think it's really clear is, uh,

1233
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, his his his late game heroics are are

1234
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: way down from previous years. Even his farded back I

1235
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: would say, is you know, two thousand and twelve he

1236
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: had a couple of good ones, but that that's down

1237
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just like you know the you know,

1238
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: he would have found it years ago. He would have

1239
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: found a way in that uh the Cowboys game to

1240
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: get that field goal. Remember a couple of those games

1241
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: late in the year he did put game winning drives together.

1242
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: But then the defense gave it right back. Yeah, yeah, no,

1243
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: there was one game winning drive. But I guess the

1244
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: in book, I'm thinking about the Dallas one and what

1245
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: we needed was twenty yards and that in materialized. That's there.

1246
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: But I think so I think what part of it

1247
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: is in my in my analysis that I saw a

1248
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: on the SEC networker obviously SEC's big in the South,

1249
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: that they had one of they replayed one of Eli's

1250
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: old miss games and uh and and it was kind

1251
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: of illuminating that boy his zip. What a difference in

1252
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: the zip in the ball from from then to now.

1253
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh and it's pretty you know he was he was

1254
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: really zinging that thing far on a rope and that

1255
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: this uh game and uh So I think what happens

1256
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: is so overall, I think he's more accurate than he

1257
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: wanted to early in his career, but his arm strength

1258
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: is down. So what what is what he has to

1259
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: do is kind of anticipate more. And a few of

1260
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: the kind of the bone headed interceptions were I think

1261
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: early anticipations that didn't work out, and uh, I think

1262
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: most of them, you know that that I'm thinking of

1263
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: one on the Cults where I think he was anticipating

1264
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: the guy getting further upfield and uh, it didn't. And

1265
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 1: then the Dallas one is another one that comes to mind,

1266
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: where you know, he thought the guy was going to

1267
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: take the underneat guy and he and he threw it there.

1268
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: So so that's kind of my analysis that Elie as

1269
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: he needs to anticipate more, which because of his um

1270
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: his arm strength is deteriorated. Thank you, Bill, appreciate the

1271
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: call him and we got it wrong. Okay, thank you.

1272
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he lies arm strengths as deteriorated much.

1273
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: To be honest with this is that since I've been here,

1274
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: I can't speak to what he did Old Miss. I

1275
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: don't remember you Lie playing at Old Miss. Obviously it's

1276
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: going to be stronger than of course, he's a college

1277
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: kid almost. Yeah, I mean, it's just that happens. But

1278
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: you get better with age and you under Yeah, his

1279
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: his his accuracy and his touch, those are all things

1280
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: from experience, and trust me, as you get older in

1281
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: in the league and you play, you learn to do

1282
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: things differently to compensate your age and your strength, and

1283
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: things like that just happens to five one three. It's

1284
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: all presented by Corps Light. Download the Coors Light Rewards

1285
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: after to an amazing Giants prizes even in the off season,

1286
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: final call the program and thanks for hanging those will

1287
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: give you some bonus minutes. Here is Scott in New Mexico.

1288
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: He's Scott. Hi, guys, how you're doing doing well? Scott?

1289
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Don't don't tell me the Giants are signed to Marcus Lawrence. No,

1290
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: I will? Okay? Uh? I kind a question that I

1291
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: have a different slant on how the Giants should approach

1292
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback issue, and I made this point on an

1293
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: earlier broadcast. If the Giants improved, I'm sure Dave Gentleman

1294
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: wants to have a playoff team next year, not no sarily.

1295
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: Wait and if they do that, assuming that Nick Foles

1296
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridge where are not going to be available?

1297
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia and New Orleans will sign both of

1298
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: those guys. Uh. The only out pouring will generally be

1299
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: through the draft. Does it become more critical to get

1300
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback this year? As opposed to the reason I

1301
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: mentioned that if the Giants continue to improve and even

1302
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, say next year, the chances of getting

1303
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: somebody like Tour from Alabama or Justin Herbert from Oregon

1304
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: to diminished exponentially unless they're willing to give up, say

1305
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: a first round draft choice. So is this the more

1306
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: critical year to address the transitional period for Eli and

1307
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: getting a quarterback that they can actually room And also, secondarily,

1308
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: have we abandoned Kyle Aletta completely as the potential back

1309
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: up for Eli Manning? It was his first year as

1310
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick out of Richmond. Yeah, gotta get

1311
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: everybody's talking. It seems like nobody is giving him any credence.

1312
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: And I was just curious, nobody's going to give him

1313
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: any credence because he's a backup quarterback and nobody really cares.

1314
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: You have a chance to compete for that job next year.

1315
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: We're not going to throw him away. I think you

1316
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 1: bring up a really good point as far as what's

1317
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: about the you know, is it imperative and whatever the

1318
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: word you use, but you know, it all depends on how,

1319
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: in my opinion, how much you like the quarterback that

1320
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: you want to get if that's the guy, and so

1321
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: then if it's if it is, then you go get him.

1322
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: But you then you're gonna have to fight against is

1323
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: that you may not be the only team that likes

1324
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: him that much. And they have a lot of people

1325
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: below them that have more draft capital. Go above you

1326
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: and grab him. Then all of a sudden, your philosophy

1327
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: changes to next year now, because maybe there's isn't another

1328
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: quarterback that you feel that you want to go and

1329
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to reach for somebody. So that's kind

1330
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: of where I think it. But it's a great point.

1331
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: It's a very very good It's a a discussion and

1332
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: it can go quickly either way depending on who jumps

1333
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: up and gets the guy and takes him from you.

1334
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, you have two schools of thought there. Okay,

1335
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: my last point now, I'll take it off the air.

1336
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: It's off topic. Actually, a lot of people are putting

1337
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in Indianapolis speed in Kansas City,

1338
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: and if they do, I think it will be because

1339
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: of the offensive line that the Indianapolis has. But I

1340
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: wanted your opinion. I've watched some really great guards like

1341
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: David de Castro Pittsburgh and Marshal Yonda. Right now, would

1342
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: you say, even though he's a rookie, would you say

1343
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: that Quenton Nelson is considered can be considered as one

1344
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: of the best guards in the NFL. Yeah, I'll take

1345
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: the question off the air guys. Well, the answer is easy, yes,

1346
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Yea was named All Pro. Yeah, and you know All

1347
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: Pro um that was letting the vander Rats. By the way,

1348
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: another rookie that was on that team. I think Leonard

1349
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: was also voted All Profit not mistaken right, and and

1350
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: Leonard didn't make the Pro Bowl. Well, the problems the

1351
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: problems is a joke. It's a popularity contest. They'll both

1352
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: make it next year. Did Vanderesh make it? I don't

1353
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: think he did either. I don't know, but they will

1354
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: both make it next year now, because that's usually what happens.

1355
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: It takes a year for people to know who you are,

1356
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: and then next year it's like, oh, yeah, I know

1357
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: about that guy. I didn't vote for him because didn't

1358
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: know who he was. Well, it's certainly a popularity contest

1359
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: with Lineman fans, for sure. And then you tell me

1360
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: what it's like when they hand out the Pro Bowl

1361
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: bowts of the players. Oh, it's just it's it's yeah,

1362
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: I know I'm voting pro v because he's you know,

1363
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: he's he's my home. It's just it's yeah, it's popularity,

1364
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's all reputation now I will tell you this.

1365
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, people were thinking about o V and how

1366
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: he made the Pro Bowl, and because you know that

1367
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: um mac bowed out and everything, the Pro Bowl was

1368
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: voted on before the season ends, by the way, so

1369
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: it goes to show you how much I guess you know,

1370
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: perspect he gets around the league because he had a

1371
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of Remember he had a lot of sacks in

1372
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: that last game. They didn't count on the statistics that

1373
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: you were looking at when they were voting for the

1374
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. By the way. That it's a good point.

1375
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: So Probow voting for players days at the week fifteen

1376
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: or sixteen or so fifteen a round, fourth round, week fifteen,

1377
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: so you still have a couple of weeks left, which

1378
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: I never understood why they do that, but but whatever

1379
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: they do it um. So that's just my point with

1380
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: that too. Twitter questions real quick. Yeah, Vick Fontana the

1381
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: last qualer. I guess it was a couple of collars.

1382
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: Ago just spent the whole salary cap for the year

1383
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: in one phone call. Good job, that's funny, um And

1384
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: he wants yes, he wants to know. No, I wasn't Antonio,

1385
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: it was that was branded. I think that was branded.

1386
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: I think, Um, can you tell me if Jamal Brown

1387
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: can play right tackle? And then we move forward in

1388
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: the right guard sweepstakes and either the draft of free agency.

1389
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: I do not believe he has defeat to play right tacky.

1390
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't either. I think he's a big man, um

1391
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: and he likes to move very you know, but not

1392
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: I would say he's flucorish. And then he's a better

1393
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: run block of than pass blocker. He's amaller, right, and

1394
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: you need those guys on your line sometimes you want

1395
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: and if you can sign him back, he's either going

1396
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: to be your starter, he's gonna be a heck of

1397
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: a swing back. You know, he's gonna be a good

1398
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: depth you to build, Depp. You see what happens with

1399
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: the offensive lines. They don't make it through the whole season.

1400
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: So you gotta have some good players behind you, which

1401
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: is what's happened with this offensive line for so many

1402
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: years that as soon as the five guys, if one

1403
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: of them goes down, there isn't much behind him, all right,

1404
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: and then you got Adam see underscore Boots. What's your

1405
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: opinion on every Moss? Do you think he is a

1406
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: shot to contribute in twenty nineteen and get off the

1407
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: practice squad. I was surprised he didn't get off the

1408
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: practice squad at the end of this year, to be honestly,

1409
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: but I think he still It was a hip I

1410
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: think he had last year at hip injury that he

1411
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: kind of was slow coming back from in the off season.

1412
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: I think that was a much more serious than kind

1413
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: of has been talked about that. I think Dave Gettiman

1414
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned that a little bit in the off season.

1415
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: So to Pat Shermer, I think he'll be given a

1416
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: shot to earn a spot this upcoming year, and we'll see.

1417
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, he might have a job at all.

1418
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that they do, they rotated

1419
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: so many people on and off that tamp practice squad

1420
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: this year, it was I mean, we couldn't keep tracking

1421
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: them all. We had no idea what if these people

1422
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: were and we're in that locker him every single day.

1423
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: He was like the only guy to stick on to

1424
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: him and Evan Brown own were like the two guys

1425
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 1: that never played but stuck and I think that probably

1426
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: tells you. And Brown was on the fifty three man,

1427
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't even on the practice squad I think that

1428
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: tells you what they think of those guys that they

1429
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: stuck around for such a long portion of the season,

1430
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: that they believe that they have a future. He made

1431
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: the all an Active team. We called it the guys

1432
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 1: that were in active every week. Evan Brown was inactive.

1433
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: He was the only guy. He was the only guy

1434
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: in the fifty three man rosso the whole year that

1435
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: that did not play a snap but got credited for

1436
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: a season. That that is an accredited season. Not a

1437
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: lot of wear and tear. That's a lot of sideline attire.

1438
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: And by the way, he'll be in the mixed tu

1439
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: to compete for that center and swing guard spot next year. Again,

1440
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: he practiced with the team off season, so you know,

1441
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was the scout team center, right question

1442
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: or guard, whatever he play. He was not on the

1443
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 1: practice guard. He was on the actors roster, which he's yeah, absolutely,

1444
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: you know. So it's gonna be interesting and the whole

1445
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: off season will be interesting as it is. And that's

1446
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: why we're here taking your calls and we'll be back

1447
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: on Monday. Everybody, enjoy your divisional football weekend. It's good show. John,

1448
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. We'll see on Monday. Danny Salmon doing

1449
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: a good job there as well. Enjoy your football, we'll

1450
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: see on Monday for another episode of Big Book. Kickoff

1451
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: Live at noon. We'll see you at