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Speaker 1: Fred Show. A j good morning, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You know what for right now? You're welcome. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I'm gonna feel in a few minutes. It

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Speaker 1: the phone. We're trying to figure out if you've been

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Speaker 1: ghosted by this woman named Melissa. So we got to

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Speaker 1: know kind of the whole story. How did you meet?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about any dates that you've been on, and

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Speaker 1: then where things are now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we met pretty much the same way most

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Speaker 2: people meet these days. It was on an app bumble.

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Speaker 2: We went out for drinks and honest good the date

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Speaker 2: was like super fun, its flirty. I had a really

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Speaker 2: nice time. We even ended up going back to my

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Speaker 2: then I just I don't know what happened. I was

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Speaker 2: actually really looking forward to, like hang hanging out with

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Speaker 1: So the chemistry, the vibeah. Sorry to interrupt you, but

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Speaker 1: it was all good enough that you wind up back

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Speaker 1: you said you were a gentle and I guess that's

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Speaker 1: you were like a little little perv. You weren't like

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Speaker 2: No, no, you know, like that's the whole thing, Like

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Speaker 2: any when you're saying when you in the back of

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Speaker 2: your place, that shows like comfort levels, Right, I try

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Speaker 2: to stay very attuned checking in all that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, but normally I would say that's all good,

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Speaker 1: except she left your house and you've reached out to

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Speaker 1: try and plan a second date and she hasn't responded

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Speaker 1: to you at all at all. Well, yeah, that's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: She's okay, Well I suspect she probably is, but at

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Speaker 1: least physically mentally, I'm not sure what you did do her.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's call it lis just a second and

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Speaker 1: a play song. We'll come back and see if you

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Speaker 1: can figure out what's going on. It has happened before

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Speaker 1: here and we can set you up on another date

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Speaker 1: that we pay for sound good. I hope so, AJ,

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Speaker 1: let's call it. You guys met on Bumble, You went

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Speaker 1: you were well behaved, and you felt like the whole

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Speaker 1: for another date and you haven't heard anything, and you want.

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Speaker 2: To know why exactly. I hope she picks up your call.

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Speaker 1: You know they tend to. But let's see. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens. Good luck, AJ. Hello, Hi, sus Alyssa, Yes

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Speaker 1: it is I'll listen. Good morning. My name is Friend.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling from the Fred Show, the morning radio show,

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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you that we are on

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit surprising, but can we chat for

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Speaker 1: Right on the radio, the radio radio, not the other radio,

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Speaker 1: but the radio radio. Is it cool if we chat

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Speaker 1: We're calling on behalf of a guy who says you

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Speaker 1: I figured there might be a story he uh, So

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Speaker 3: Okay, we were on the couch, things were going nice.

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Speaker 3: And when he comes back, he comes back with a

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Speaker 2: So now, yeah, you could just never be too careful.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to make sure he had consented for that,

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Speaker 1: but he had no problem on the sneak attack here.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so listen, look, so you you were everything

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it completely killed the mood. And it

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Speaker 3: I just I can't believe he called the radio station two.

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Speaker 1: But whatever, Okay, So well to be clear about this,

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Speaker 1: and so he was misreading the situation, like, you guys

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Speaker 3: What I was, I was interested in at least you know,

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Speaker 1: to know, Aj, I'll bring you in now, agent. Why

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Speaker 2: Some people not me, man, But it's just scary. You

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Speaker 2: So I mean, what's the big deal and that just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I typically have an attorney come

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean also it was like our first date,

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Speaker 1: Like, hey, I need you to read this line. Video

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Speaker 3: Exactly, But if he behaves well, then there should be

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Speaker 1: Well, look listen, I mean I feel like he was

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Speaker 1: well and he had good intentions. It was well intended,

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Speaker 1: it could be worse. I mean, would you like to

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Speaker 1: go out with him again? We'll pay for it, and

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Speaker 1: I guess we can consent to all that right now.

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Speaker 3: We have we have witnesses, you know, I do appreciate

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Speaker 2: But I'm honestly going.

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Speaker 3: To have to decline, and I'm going to have to

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Speaker 2: Well you won't have to be so you won't have

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Speaker 2: to do this again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like to cender a do Yeah, yeah something, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something's just really simple. Yeah, I don't know, sun it

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Speaker 1: on your phone.

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Speaker 3: Like when people who used to work here, like when

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Speaker 3: I would take a photo with them, they would put

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Speaker 3: their arms up in the air as if I was

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Speaker 3: trying to going to get them for sexual harassment.

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Speaker 1: Like that's offensive to me. Like, just be a good

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Speaker 1: person and don't grab my butt and we'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: That seems like.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to grab your butt. I should X

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Speaker 4: or no, don't not at work?

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Speaker 1: No you never asked me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you can grab You have consent from me,

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Speaker 4: all right, in perpetuity, miss Kiki.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, grab my butt. I don't know. I might

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Speaker 1: come up with a different approach to come up, I

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Speaker 1: might devise a different approach to get the same information.

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Speaker 1: Or to Caitlin's point, just don't be creepy and be

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Speaker 1: open minded to what people are comfortable with. And maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't have to go that far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I you man, but like, yeah, I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: You think he's the rapper too, right, You don't talk about.

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Speaker 2: That enough on the radio. She doesn't know I got

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Speaker 2: her on the radio. I could have been a rapper.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't know.

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Speaker 1: I did that with him.

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Speaker 3: Just be respectful to women. Just be respectful to yourself,

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Speaker 3: you know, like if you got like just I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you definitely need.

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Speaker 2: To change your approach and definitely lose my number.

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Speaker 1: Do not send me your mixtape than give you your time.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck to both of you. Thank you,