Speaker 1: Welcome back to our best of twenty twenty three. Let's
Speaker 1: get right back to our interview with GEO. That's what
Speaker 1: we call on Greg Wilson. Greg, I know you have
Speaker 1: a vacation to get to, but hold on. I really
Speaker 1: need to know your thoughts on this because you're such
Speaker 1: a gentleman. You're a great husband, You're a great father,
Speaker 1: you're a great teammate. These kids are so well behaved
Speaker 1: and lovely, and I want Max Stole to be just
Speaker 1: like them. Yes, all of the above, thank you. But
Speaker 1: if your wife wants to go get a Starbucks and
Speaker 1: you guys are on a connecting flight okay, and you've
Speaker 1: heard the announcement like they're boarding yours now again, you
Speaker 1: get on late to the plane like I do, so
Speaker 1: this may, you know, be an indication of what you're
Speaker 1: going to say. But she wants to go get a
Speaker 1: Starbucks and you're like, hey, we're cutting it close, like
Speaker 1: don't go get a Starbucks. But she's like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm going to. I want to. So you go to
Speaker 1: the plane and then the plane is going to take
Speaker 1: off and she's not there yet. Do you get off
Speaker 1: the plane and make sure that she like is with
Speaker 1: you or story the guy the guy left without his wife.
Speaker 1: He was like, she took too long. I told her
Speaker 1: not to go to Starbucks. What would you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably wouldn't board with outer because you do.
Speaker 2: It probably been like a whisp.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 2: I probably didn't have the problem. Is I probably my
Speaker 2: boarding pass was probably on her phone. Yes, but you know,
Speaker 2: but I think if I put myself in that situation,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have boarded the plane without her. There would
Speaker 2: have been like a whisper fight, you know, like a
Speaker 2: really like silent whisper fight, saying like why are you
Speaker 2: going to get a Starbucks right now? Where there would
Speaker 2: have been like a whisper like a whisper fight back
Speaker 2: and forth where like we think we're the only like
Speaker 2: everyone knows you're fighting, but you think no one knows
Speaker 2: you're fighting, you know. So there probably would have been
Speaker 2: like one of those going on. Hopefully I would have
Speaker 2: won the fight. Unlikely that I did. If there was
Speaker 2: no line at Starbucks, I probably would have hung tight.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I probably I would not have boarded the
Speaker 2: flight without her. That's that's I could prove that happen.
Speaker 2: That would be the case. But if she put us
Speaker 2: in that position, it wouldn't the whisper fight would have escalated.
Speaker 1: The whisper fight. Is this a common Olsen term? A
Speaker 1: whisper fight?
Speaker 2: So my wife and I always had this joke, like
Speaker 2: when the twins were little, we we didn't sleep for
Speaker 2: like a year. In our again it was probably two months,
Speaker 2: but in our mind it's a year, and like we
Speaker 2: would we had this running joke that like as long
Speaker 2: as in the morning, whatever happened in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night didn't count.
Speaker 3: So like the twins and sleep.
Speaker 2: They'd alternate, you're tired, you're being mean, Like whatever we
Speaker 2: whisper fighted in the middle of the night. When we
Speaker 2: woke up in the morning, like when we when our
Speaker 2: eyes opened and it was morning time, we would like
Speaker 2: check in and be like are we good, Like nothing
Speaker 2: that happened, nothing that happened throughout the night counted. We'd
Speaker 2: start fresh in the morning, and the whisper fights they
Speaker 2: don't count. So so that was kind of our like
Speaker 2: deal for us, and it got us through like the
Speaker 2: first year of having the twins, and we've always tried
Speaker 2: to stick to that plan, Like if we're gonna fight,
Speaker 2: we gotta fight.
Speaker 3: But if we're whisper fighting, it doesn't count.
Speaker 1: I just want to get a sense of what whisper
Speaker 1: fighting is because in our house and be like there's
Speaker 1: such an asshole, like but I can't imagine whispering, Like.
Speaker 2: What's a whisper fighting is? So like whisper fighting is
Speaker 2: like stop, you need.
Speaker 3: A fucking Starbucks? Now, what about to board the plane?
Speaker 2: Get a Starbucks on the plane or like, you know,
Speaker 2: when when the babies were small, it was like, I'm
Speaker 2: fucking trying.
Speaker 3: Why don't you try to put them asleep? You're gonna
Speaker 3: wake up? There's this you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: you want to say everything, but you're talking like I'm trying.
Speaker 3: What do you think I'm doing?
Speaker 2: You know, so that whisper fighting is like not a
Speaker 2: real fight, and we were we were on the same
Speaker 2: page with that, so that that got us. That's why
Speaker 2: we were able to get through having twins.
Speaker 1: We call that a mister and missus in our house.
Speaker 1: If you're having a fight, well, we had a mister
Speaker 1: and missus yesterday. It wasn't good.
Speaker 2: And as long as you make as long as you
Speaker 2: don't end the day or start the day on whatever
Speaker 2: that fight is, it's good as long as it doesn't
Speaker 2: linger You're.
Speaker 1: Good, okay, So Greg, I'd be remissed because Aaron is
Speaker 1: very great at impersonations. She's done it of Sean McVay,
Speaker 1: she's done it of myself, she's done it of you
Speaker 1: and keV. I need you to give me your best
Speaker 1: Aaron andrews impersonation. It could be anything. It could be
Speaker 1: on the sideline, it could be in a meeting, it
Speaker 1: could be at dinner the night before. I need you
Speaker 1: to put together and think about it. I don't want
Speaker 1: you to rush, and I'm putting you on the spot here.
Speaker 1: But this chick is great calling out other people. So
Speaker 1: I think that you need to. Having spent the most
Speaker 1: time with her over the last year and a half
Speaker 1: on the road in various you know positions, give me
Speaker 1: your best Aaron andrews impersonation an setting.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is this is a lot of pressure. This
Speaker 2: this is a lot of pressure. I'm not prepared. This
Speaker 2: is impromptu. I would love to hear Aaron's impression of me.
Speaker 2: First of all.
Speaker 1: Okay, Saron, do you know you can do it? Whenever
Speaker 1: it is when I don't want to say the team
Speaker 1: because I don't want to put them on the spot.
Speaker 1: But we were at I know what you're what, it's
Speaker 1: my favorite. We're like, by the way, very few people
Speaker 1: can make Aaron cry laughing. This is Greg Olsen to
Speaker 1: her on like a daily affairs every week in our meetings.
Speaker 1: I asked him, you know how I asked you, Chris,
Speaker 1: if you took a xanax when you do our end
Speaker 1: gate breaks, because you're like, and the Bears are losing
Speaker 1: forty one to nothing?
Speaker 3: Can we talk about then? Before? Well?
Speaker 1: Why I do about it? Let's talk about it, go Greg.
Speaker 1: So this turned from I need to make fun of Aaron.
Speaker 1: So now we're back on me.
Speaker 2: We're going to We're going to get to Aaron in
Speaker 2: a minute. But I said this to Aaron the other
Speaker 2: day actually at our production meeting. If I have a
Speaker 2: great thought, a great replay, I'm like, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a great moment of the game. You can bet
Speaker 2: your bottom dollar I'm gonna get whispered in my ear.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Crista with a game break.
Speaker 2: One hundred out of one hundred times, one hundred out
Speaker 2: of one hundred times. And I'm like, that was the
Speaker 2: most interesting play of the last forty five. I had
Speaker 2: nothing to say for forty five minutes. I got a
Speaker 2: great play.
Speaker 1: It's not cool point.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Chris on a game break, and
Speaker 3: then it's like, thanks, keV. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Here we have the Vikings, the Vikings and the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, justin Herbert going back connects Mike Williams six
Speaker 2: points cuts the lead to twenty seven twenty four.
Speaker 3: Back to you, keV.
Speaker 2: keV, you know what I mean, Like can point three
Speaker 2: and by and by that point three plays have been
Speaker 2: run and no one gives a shit about my point
Speaker 2: from four p.
Speaker 1: But you're praying, go babe. I have to say just keV,
Speaker 1: because I want to say all your guys name, and
Speaker 1: there's twelve of you on the staff, so I can't
Speaker 1: get through up. So I just gotta cut it down
Speaker 1: to keV. Okay, I put a side where the games
Speaker 1: breaks come through. Half the time, I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 1: All I hear is let's go to Carissa. And I'm
Speaker 1: quickly hoping that it's the right highlight cheat that I
Speaker 1: have in front of me, because half the time I'm
Speaker 1: talking to somebody else or saying something inappropriate and praying
Speaker 1: that it doesn't end up on the microphone. I was like,
Speaker 1: I've had so many panic moments where Terry Bradshaw's been
Speaker 1: sitting next to me and saying God knows what, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I hear, let's go to Chrissa,
Speaker 1: and I'm like having to get out of his mouth
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this guy, you never know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. But anyways, so that's I said. Chrissen took
Speaker 1: like a xanax on doing those production meetings. Greig is
Speaker 1: again one of the best teammates I've ever had, and
Speaker 1: like he is in our production meetings, I just have
Speaker 1: to say this and you ask me what my favorite
Speaker 1: line is, and then he can absolutely bury me. Right now,
Speaker 1: he comes to production meetings and he's ready, like it's
Speaker 1: not a whisper fight. It is like I asked him
Speaker 1: this past weekend, I go, did you take speed? Like
Speaker 1: He's just like, so, we have to tell America the story,
Speaker 1: Like we have to tell America the story. And I
Speaker 1: sit there Rich Gross another one of my whole time
Speaker 1: favorites whom I die for. I love each other all
Speaker 1: the time with Greg because we love him so much
Speaker 1: and we're just like like it's insane. But Greg, last
Speaker 1: year we were talking about a defense. We had a
Speaker 1: really fun meeting and actually Greg brought us all gifts
Speaker 1: c and he brought us like tequila and we started
Speaker 1: drinking it and it was so much fun. And we
Speaker 1: allowed Greg to have the floor and he sits serr
Speaker 1: and he basically diagnoses the whole game. He gives us
Speaker 1: his thoughts on everything. He's mid sentence, he's like, just
Speaker 1: you know, talking to us about this defense, and he goes, Guys,
Speaker 1: I just have to tell you. He sticks this giant
Speaker 1: paw in a bowl of tortilla chips, shut in his
Speaker 1: mouth and he goes, their defense is in a real freefall.
Speaker 1: I looked at Kevin. I was like, I'm just seized.
Speaker 1: They're in a free fall.
Speaker 3: That's a true story. Yeah, I'll be honest. I gave
Speaker 3: my best follow up.
Speaker 2: I had like four baskets and chips in the meeting
Speaker 2: this past week in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I hadn't eaten all morning, and you.
Speaker 1: Don't light attendant, So how could you? Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: You're not accepting anything she's offering. This guy, I don't.
Speaker 3: Eat airplane food.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I guess my favorite My my favorite
Speaker 2: thing about e A is I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: much of it's like an impression or like my favorite
Speaker 2: thing about e A is she knows she has like
Speaker 2: the story the interview, like she has it, but as
Speaker 2: she's getting it out, it's like, listen, guys, I don't
Speaker 2: have a thing.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm a mother. I'm a mother.
Speaker 3: Do you guys realize? But like she has to go
Speaker 3: through like.
Speaker 2: The whole self deprecate, I'm a mother, and then at
Speaker 2: the end she she like lays it out. We're like, yeah, eyah,
Speaker 2: that's your open that's your question. You know, damn well
Speaker 2: what you want to say?
Speaker 1: No one don't.
Speaker 2: You're the fucking best and anyone who's ever done this
Speaker 2: like you got it, Like we can skip to that part.
Speaker 3: Like that's my favorite thing about AA.
Speaker 1: It's qualifier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like qualifier, self deprecate, I'm a mother, self deprecate.
Speaker 3: Self quiet.
Speaker 1: I haven't washed my hair in a week.
Speaker 3: I have horrible acne. Have you seen my nose?
Speaker 2: It's a crater. I'm like, Eya, first of all, no
Speaker 2: one has seen your zip. No one's noticed since you
Speaker 2: brought attention to it. I still don't see it and
Speaker 2: you know exactly what you're gonna say, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fucking great. So like that's my best thing about EA.
Speaker 2: Like in all honestly, this is and this is a
Speaker 2: god's honest truth. You could ask my wife she coming
Speaker 2: down here. We actually had a full conversation like when
Speaker 2: Erin is like in the moment, like yesterday with Mahomes,
Speaker 2: there's nobody better.
Speaker 1: Immediately, I was like I texted or I talked to
Speaker 1: Greg before we did it because I was like Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm panicking.
Speaker 2: No, but like it was, but that was our pregame.
Speaker 2: She's like, guys, I can't do it. They want I can't.
Speaker 2: And then she gets on air and it's like, yeah, Erin,
Speaker 2: that's it. Just do like she is and now she's
Speaker 2: gonna be embarrassed. She when the when the light comes on.
Speaker 2: She is so good at asking questions in a way
Speaker 2: that comes across organic and natural and personable that whoever
Speaker 2: she's interviewing, it could be Patrick Mahomes, it could be Kelsey,
Speaker 2: it could be whoever their guard goes down, they don't
Speaker 2: feel like it's a gotcha, and she's able to ask
Speaker 2: the question that everybody wanted to know. Did you feel
Speaker 2: pressure throwing the ball to Kelsey knowing Taylor Swift sitting
Speaker 2: in his box. That's a hard question to ask, whoa
Speaker 2: that's a weird question to ask. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 2: when Aaron asks it, it comes across as so normal,
Speaker 2: It comes across as non threatening, it comes across as
Speaker 2: so fun. And that's why you get the answer mahomes
Speaker 2: gabr which ended up being the story of the entire game.
Speaker 2: And like, that's Aaron's gift and that's what and that's
Speaker 2: why every time she goes to that, I'm like, Aaron, stop,
Speaker 2: you know you're going to crush the question. You're going
Speaker 2: to crush the interview. I have no patience for the
Speaker 2: rest of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But like, there's no one.
Speaker 2: Better, there's no one better framing the question everybody at
Speaker 2: home wants to know and getting it in a very
Speaker 2: personable and fun manner than er.
Speaker 3: And that's her gift. That's why she is so good.
Speaker 1: And we will finish up with one of another one
Speaker 1: of our favorite people, the legendary Dan Patrick. I know
Speaker 1: we were both honored that he agreed to come on
Speaker 1: the podcast. He's been so great to us in our
Speaker 1: careers and he gave us a masterclass, me specifically, eighteen
Speaker 1: years into this thing, I finally got the art of
Speaker 1: the interview from Dan Patrick, and we talked about the
Speaker 1: pressure of trying to be perfect in this industry. Hello,
Speaker 1: and the toll that it can take. What, Where, when?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: How? That's the art of interviews. Just got to remember those.
Speaker 1: He also tells an unbelievable story about the time he
Speaker 1: interviewed OJ Simpson. I feel like everybody has stopped us
Speaker 1: on the streets on the field to say that they
Speaker 1: listen to this interview. Here it is with Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1: Check it out. So, Dan, you are so skilled at
Speaker 1: so many things that you do. Aaron and I both
Speaker 1: interview people as well for a living. I want to
Speaker 1: know the art of the interview through the lens of
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick because I'm constantly trying to figure out and
Speaker 1: learn and take advice, yield advice from people that I respect.
Speaker 1: What makes a good interviewer.
Speaker 4: Be curious, like, always be curious. It's not about you.
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with the question that makes it seem
Speaker 4: like you don't know the answer if you say why,
Speaker 4: But we get caught up in Oh my god, they're
Speaker 4: going to think I don't know. So you're going to
Speaker 4: ask a question, answer the question, then ask the question.
Speaker 4: It's terrible, yes, just get to the question. Just ask
Speaker 4: the question. And because the less time I have you
Speaker 4: to be able to load up with an answer or
Speaker 4: maybe bullshit me, I'm doing a disservice to my audience.
Speaker 4: And I always think when I'm interviewing, my job is
Speaker 4: to be a conduit to the people who are listening
Speaker 4: or watching. It's my job to get them something that
Speaker 4: keeps them in their car or they go, oh, did
Speaker 4: you hear that interview? And if you're selfless, then you'll
Speaker 4: ask open ended questions and be curious and always be
Speaker 4: ready with the follow up. Athletes try not to tell
Speaker 4: us things, or coaches try not to tell us things.
Speaker 4: Your job is. They're going to tell you something. You
Speaker 4: just have to listen for it, and then when you
Speaker 4: follow up, that's when you get gold. I remember when
Speaker 4: Scotty Pippen was being interviewed by all these people and
Speaker 4: he had something to say about Michael Jordan and Lebron
Speaker 4: and everybody was, oh my god, did you hear what
Speaker 4: Scotty had to say, well, in the same conversation he
Speaker 4: talked about race played a role in phil wanting Scotty
Speaker 4: did not take the last shot. Tony Kukoach was going
Speaker 4: to take the last shot in the game and Scotty
Speaker 4: sat down and I said, oh my god, that's the
Speaker 4: quote he'd basically called Phil Jackson a racist. And I said,
Speaker 4: to Pritzy my book, I said, see if you can
Speaker 4: get Scotty on. And he was promoting his whiskey or
Speaker 4: bourbon or something, tequila maybe, and I asked him, I said,
Speaker 4: what are you saying about Phil? And he said no,
Speaker 4: he basically was saying he's a race And I just thought,
Speaker 4: nobody's listening, like they're listening for what gets clicks. And
Speaker 4: gets clicks is when you talk about Michael Jordan and
Speaker 4: Lebron James, not Phil Jackson. And I just remember it
Speaker 4: was like it hit me that are we really listening?
Speaker 4: Are we only listening for what works in today's social
Speaker 4: media climate? And I don't do social media. I'm not
Speaker 4: on social media. I'm not interested in social media. I'm
Speaker 4: aware of it. If I make a mistake, somebody points
Speaker 4: that out, but other than that, I don't need it.
Speaker 4: As a reassurance. But I think you know how we
Speaker 4: ask questions, who's asking questions? And I think journalism is
Speaker 4: sort of in small letters now, I don't think it's
Speaker 4: capital letters. And that's where I think we get into
Speaker 4: trouble sometimes hot takes. That's really important. But when you
Speaker 4: sit down and you ask questions, ask the question, and
Speaker 4: don't be afraid because this isn't about that guy being
Speaker 4: your buddy or you know, that woman being your buddy.
Speaker 4: Your job is still to get that answer to your audience.
Speaker 4: And if you always believe in that and stay true
Speaker 4: to that, you can't go wrong. But make it about
Speaker 4: the subject, not about you and your questions.
Speaker 1: I love that. Now I'm rethinking everything. I want to
Speaker 1: ask a stentistic I'm my shit, what's happening?
Speaker 4: Well, I would I not to tell you how to
Speaker 4: do your job, but I would like to know, like
Speaker 4: what makes you want to be part of the media,
Speaker 4: Like what what part of the media do you enjoy?
Speaker 4: Because he he is good, Yeah, he's good on his
Speaker 4: podcast and he's got things to say, and he's young,
Speaker 4: and I'm just curious that new wave of athlete. So
Speaker 4: you know, we got the nil guys and then we
Speaker 4: got you know these guys who have a podcast and
Speaker 4: what do you say? And can you say it? And
Speaker 4: are you saying it on here? But you won't say
Speaker 4: it to the media when you do a press comment
Speaker 4: Like those are things that I find really fascinating because
Speaker 4: today's athlete is far ahead of the game in a
Speaker 4: lot of ways, but really naive in a lot of
Speaker 4: ways too.
Speaker 1: You've done everything, covered World Series and Bay Finals, Olympics,
Speaker 1: your time at ESPN, your time at NBC, and your
Speaker 1: own show. Is there something you would go back and
Speaker 1: do differently? Or you appreciative of the past that.
Speaker 4: You've been see I would have critiqued you right there.
Speaker 4: Tell me what would you have done differently?
Speaker 1: What would you have done differently?
Speaker 4: You don't even add the end of it.
Speaker 1: I love you now.
Speaker 4: I do this to my wife and I do this
Speaker 4: to my kids. So much again, so good.
Speaker 1: And it mess that is the way you think, Dan.
Speaker 1: Did you deal with John Swatsky at ESPN?
Speaker 4: Yes, he in a.
Speaker 1: Great way sucked my head up, like what where?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 1: Why? How do not ask two part questions? Like? It
Speaker 1: screws my brain app but it's great.
Speaker 4: John Swantsky changed my career.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4: John was in a magazine. There was an article and
Speaker 4: it was like the King of interviewing or King of
Speaker 4: the question. And I read it and I said to
Speaker 4: John Walsh, who was running Sports Center, I said, we
Speaker 4: have to get him here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so he got him here five days, eight hours.
Speaker 4: And people were like right in MF and me like
Speaker 4: they were like, oh my god, why did you? And
Speaker 4: I said, oh my god, this is unbelievable. It was
Speaker 4: a treasure trove of things that could help you. Tips
Speaker 4: laying down breadcrumbs, like take them here, take them here.
Speaker 4: Where are you going? What's your end game? What's your
Speaker 4: first question? Now? We went toe to toe a lot
Speaker 4: of times because I said, you've never interviewed Mike Tyson,
Speaker 4: you've never interviewed Dennis Rodman. Your law is your rules,
Speaker 4: your tips won't apply, and he goes, I beg to different.
Speaker 4: I go, I know because I've done that, I have
Speaker 4: interviewed them, and there is no way to really go
Speaker 4: into that with his formula. But the other stuff was wonderful,
Speaker 4: open ended question. I'll sit around the table with my kids,
Speaker 4: my wife and I used to go, how is your
Speaker 4: day good? And I go Okay, tell me what was
Speaker 4: the best part of your day? And so then they
Speaker 4: would give you an answer, and then after a while
Speaker 4: they caught on and they go you interviewing down or
Speaker 4: you really.
Speaker 1: I love it? Though I love it, you have.
Speaker 4: To get into Do it to your boyfriend, do it
Speaker 4: to your husband, just to ask a question. They won't
Speaker 4: realize it. But when you say, hey, how you doing good? Hey, uh,
Speaker 4: what was fun today? Or what was interesting today? Then
Speaker 4: you get conversation. And I always tell people when you
Speaker 4: get married, you fall in love, but you stay married
Speaker 4: because you like that person. So find out if you
Speaker 4: like being around them by talking to them.
Speaker 1: Chris, don't do this. Don't do it.
Speaker 4: I don't want to screw up. You've gotten this far
Speaker 4: without me. I've helped you with other relationships.
Speaker 1: Exactly get out of them. So wait, So okay asked
Speaker 1: the question. In the Dan Patrick school of interviewing, this
Speaker 1: is this is my test. Okay, so Dan, you have
Speaker 1: covered World Series NBA.
Speaker 4: Don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: But they don't have to do that. You're out of
Speaker 1: information that they know about. Okay, I thought I was starting.
Speaker 1: I thought I had to start, Like, No, I don't
Speaker 1: do your question now I don't know. My question is
Speaker 1: what would you do differently?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's it. What would you do differently in your career?
Speaker 1: What would you do differently in your career?
Speaker 4: Nothing? I learned. I learned the right way. I mean,
Speaker 4: I got humiliated, I got kicked to the curb. I
Speaker 4: came back. I started something on my own. I'm proud of,
Speaker 4: like you're proud of. It's like you know when a
Speaker 4: supermodel gets wrinkles, like that's life. You know, you've been smiling,
Speaker 4: it's okay. And I just and I didn't call myself
Speaker 4: a supermodel, by the way, I'm just saying that you
Speaker 4: you're not. It's not perfect. And I tried to be
Speaker 4: perfect when I started this. Every sports Center I did,
Speaker 4: every single one. I'd get done, i'd grab the tape,
Speaker 4: I'd go upstairs and I would watch the entire Sports
Speaker 4: Center because I was looking for things that I did wrong,
Speaker 4: and I thought, what am I like? So you're kind
Speaker 4: Even I'd make a mistake on camera and I'd be
Speaker 4: thinking about it through the whole show. And I don't
Speaker 4: know if you guys have gone through that where you
Speaker 4: make a mistake pregame or something, and you're going, oh, God,
Speaker 4: damn it, it's just there. But I was looking for
Speaker 4: everything that was wrong. How'd the tie look, how'd my
Speaker 4: hair look, how did I sound? And it was just
Speaker 4: I was driving myself crazy because I couldn't just go
Speaker 4: out there and go I made a mistake. I can
Speaker 4: deal with it. And it took a long time to
Speaker 4: do that. And you know, Keith Oberman helped immensely because
Speaker 4: he's like, DP, fuck it, move on, and then he's right.
Speaker 4: But in the moment, you're like, God, I want to
Speaker 4: I want to be perfect. You know, that's probably why
Speaker 4: I got to where I am. But it also can really,
Speaker 4: you know, take its toll on you because you want
Speaker 4: to be great all the time. You know, the motto
Speaker 4: is every day is the super Bowl, and if you
Speaker 4: don't have that approach, then you're going to fall in
Speaker 4: your face sometimes because you weren't prepared. And it goes
Speaker 4: back to that first day in radio when I didn't
Speaker 4: know how to pronounce the Ayatola's name, and I never
Speaker 4: forgot that feeling of being humiliated, and so it's always there,
Speaker 4: you know, forty years later, I'm emotional.
Speaker 1: I'm emotional because I am I'm like sitting here crying
Speaker 1: because a lot of this is relatable. But also I
Speaker 1: was telling Chris one question I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: was I feel like in this whole thing has been
Speaker 1: like just like a relay race, right, Like you just
Speaker 1: go as fast as you can because you want to
Speaker 1: keep up and you want to keep reinventing yourself, you
Speaker 1: want to stay relevant, but you don't take the time
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. And there's things I look back at
Speaker 1: college game day I wish I enjoyed more. I wish
Speaker 1: I had taken pictures. But this is so special that
Speaker 1: we have you in our life. We have you somebody
Speaker 1: we looked up to, we wanted to be like, we
Speaker 1: wanted to work with, and we have you as a friend.
Speaker 1: And just to hear you tell these stories that you
Speaker 1: know are so passionate and things that we are so
Speaker 1: interested in. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I never celebrate it. I never celebrated. I never stopped.
Speaker 4: And my wife goes celebrate the victories. I go, hun,
Speaker 4: I need big victories hard, like, hey, you know you're
Speaker 4: going to win an award, And she would say no,
Speaker 4: like did you have a good show? I say, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, I guess she goes, but you
Speaker 4: got to celebrate it and I and she was so right,
Speaker 4: as she always is, and I just missed out on that.
Speaker 4: So I would say to you, guys, man, the small things,
Speaker 4: and you know, having a baby, just those small things,
Speaker 4: those are things you should be doing in your career,
Speaker 4: noticing the small things. It's like when your baby does
Speaker 4: something small and you go, God, did you see that?
Speaker 4: That was awesome? She ate an avocado? Oh my God,
Speaker 4: Like have fun and remember it because you chase constantly
Speaker 4: I did. I kept thinking, well, next job, or next paycheck,
Speaker 4: or next raise, or next next, next, next, next, next,
Speaker 4: And I never ever stopped. It's okay to look open
Speaker 4: the scrap book and just go, yeah, that was fun. Okay,
Speaker 4: So let people and the memories.
Speaker 1: So let's let's do this as I applied, Mike, do
Speaker 1: you have a few more minutes for us? Because I
Speaker 1: know we're.
Speaker 4: Already I have, I have life for you.
Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you. I know to me right now,
Speaker 1: she's a mother, she's emotional.
Speaker 4: I guess I'm a mother too. I'm a mother too.
Speaker 1: The best part is Daniel, one of the funniest people
Speaker 1: we know, and Aaron and I don't cry ever, and
Speaker 1: here we are, okay, so rapid fire. Since somebody is
Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick's school of question asking favorite interview, I
Speaker 1: don't have one. Least favorite interview.
Speaker 4: Ooh, Tanya Harding was was painful. Why there? You go?
Speaker 4: Right there? Boom, that's what you do? Why Well? I
Speaker 4: brought up Nancy Kerrigan. She I had never interviewed her,
Speaker 4: and she had found religion, and I wanted to know
Speaker 4: how her religion accepted what she did and what she was,
Speaker 4: how she was a part of Nancy Carrigan and you know,
Speaker 4: her husband and all those things, and so good. She
Speaker 4: follow up, She goes, are we are we going to
Speaker 4: really talk about this? And I go yes, And then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden I hear, hold on, Paul once
Speaker 4: talk to you. Well, I don't know who Paul is.
Speaker 4: Paul goes, Dan, we're going down this road, and I go, uh,
Speaker 4: who are you?
Speaker 1: Jeff's brother.
Speaker 4: I'm her agent and a PR person, and I go, look,
Speaker 4: I've never had so they cut short the interview, but
Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask her about it. I interviewed O. J. Simpson.
Speaker 4: This was after the double murder.
Speaker 1: And what was your first question?
Speaker 4: I don't remember my first question, because we were we
Speaker 4: were talking football. Okay, I made a terrible mistake. Iowa,
Speaker 4: I think was playing USC and the Orange Bowl, and
Speaker 4: I thought, you know what, Oj, you know he was
Speaker 4: found not guilty, he was still a wonderful football player.
Speaker 4: Maybe we talked to OJ Simpson, well he agrees, and
Speaker 4: we just talked football and USC and all those things,
Speaker 4: and we were changing tapes. So I did thirty minutes
Speaker 4: and then we stopped. And so you know, that feels
Speaker 4: like forever when somebody's reloading their camera and it's just
Speaker 4: him and we're just sitting next to each other and
Speaker 4: like four feet apart, and he goes, you think I
Speaker 4: did it? And I go did what? And he said kill? Yes,
Speaker 4: but I wanted him to say it, so I said
Speaker 4: did what? And he said killed those two people? And
Speaker 4: I said yes. And then and then my cameraman goes, okay,
Speaker 4: we're okay, we're ready to roll. Oh shit, yeah.
Speaker 1: So what happened?
Speaker 4: Dan? He kept trying to tell me how he was
Speaker 4: not guilty, and he goes, you don't know how crazy
Speaker 4: my life is. Do you know that I was in
Speaker 4: Vegas and I walked by a room and they were
Speaker 4: shooting a porn and they wanted me Oj to be
Speaker 4: in the porn and like it was going, it was
Speaker 4: going in a direction where it wasn't going to make air.
Speaker 4: And I just let him talk. But he was trying
Speaker 4: to convince me because I just told him to his face. Yes,
Speaker 4: I thought that he killed you know, his his wife,
Speaker 4: oh Ron Goldman. Yeah. So that one was an interesting conversation.
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor, I thought was going to beat me up.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, I'd ask him. He had been suspended for
Speaker 4: cocaine use and he read a statement to the print
Speaker 4: media and I was at training camp and then he
Speaker 4: came out. They wouldn't let camera people in and he
Speaker 4: came out and he was walking to his car, and
Speaker 4: I was working at CNN at the time, and I said,
Speaker 4: would you read the statement on camera? And then he
Speaker 4: said you need to get the real story. And I said,
Speaker 4: I have the full story. I talked to your agent.
Speaker 4: And then he walked away, and then I thought, oh god,
Speaker 4: all right, here I go, and I went up to
Speaker 4: him again. I said, look, I need you to read
Speaker 4: that on camera. You know that I wasn't able to
Speaker 4: be in there. They wouldn't allow cameras and then he
Speaker 4: had the darkest sunglasses on ever. I could see the
Speaker 4: whites of his eyes through his sunglasses and he's staring
Speaker 4: at me, and I go, oh, my gosh. I felt
Speaker 4: like I was Ken O'Brien of the Jets, and he
Speaker 4: was coming after me, sacked me, and he's my neighbor.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, I tell the street, Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 4: He's a good guy. I felt that he's one of
Speaker 4: the first guys I ever felt bad for. I saw
Speaker 4: fear in his eyes when Lawrence Taylor was chasing him
Speaker 4: during a game, and I go, that that is fear
Speaker 4: right there, That is fear. But he got into his
Speaker 4: he had a dark blue Portia, and he peeled out
Speaker 4: and Peter King was working I think for news Day.
Speaker 4: He runs out, he goes, what did he say? And
Speaker 4: I told him the story, and I think Peter quoted
Speaker 4: me in Newsday that Lawrence Taylor basically told me to
Speaker 4: get fucked as he got his car. I mean, these
Speaker 4: are the moments that people don't really care. Like when
Speaker 4: you're getting in the business, you don't you know that
Speaker 4: that you don't want to have these moments, Like you
Speaker 4: don't have these moments come on, you know, and then
Speaker 4: you do where you know, sometimes you're asking a tough
Speaker 4: question and you know, I just I just try to
Speaker 4: be professional the best I can. Never try to be sensationalistic,
Speaker 4: and I don't do gotcha. I don't do any of
Speaker 4: that stuff. But there are times when you go, God,
Speaker 4: this is gonna hurt. When I asked this question, bos
Speaker 4: so you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: Was there an interview that you wanted, didn't think that
Speaker 1: you would get and you got it.
Speaker 4: Let's see now I could say yes or no to that, right.
Speaker 1: Who was a person that you wanted to interview and
Speaker 1: you didn't think you could get it, but you got it.
Speaker 4: I think Michael Jordan during the NBA Finals when he
Speaker 4: wasn't talking to the media and then I got a
Speaker 4: chance to talk. I had a great relationship with him.
Speaker 4: I don't really know him, but he was very generous
Speaker 4: with me and he knew that I was I could
Speaker 4: push him a little bit and he was playful. I
Speaker 4: thought he was different when he was on Sports Center
Speaker 4: after they would win those championships and another interview I
Speaker 4: got that's really not headline worthy. But John Stockton never
Speaker 4: did interviews, never the NBA finals NBC would be trying
Speaker 4: Jim Gray would be trying to get John Stockton to
Speaker 4: sit down, and I just remember saying to the p R,
Speaker 4: I was just trying to be funny and I said, hey,
Speaker 4: love to have you know, John to sit down for
Speaker 4: an interview. And he goes, I'll ask, and I go, okay,
Speaker 4: just for shits and giggles comes back and he goes,
Speaker 4: John'll do it. Where do you want to do it?
Speaker 4: And I go what? So we sat down to the interview.
Speaker 4: I just remember NBC's like, wait, what do you wait
Speaker 4: a minute? You know, why don't you do an interview
Speaker 4: with us? And I go, I have no idea. I
Speaker 4: just ask. And I always say that don't be afraid
Speaker 4: to ask. Cool if you can take no, which I
Speaker 4: happened through most of my high school and college career
Speaker 4: with women, like if you can, if you can take
Speaker 4: a no and keep coming back, then you know that's
Speaker 4: you got to have that that thick skin, you have
Speaker 4: to have callouses. And I just remember, you just ask,
Speaker 4: you know, I had no problem asking, and if you
Speaker 4: got rejected, you're like, okay.
Speaker 1: Do you think you could ask Michael Jordan to do
Speaker 1: calm down as well, like we can book him next week,
Speaker 1: that'd be a easy. No.
Speaker 4: I don't have that pipeline to him anymore, but he
Speaker 4: I would still love to follow up with him, and
Speaker 4: I would love to talk business with him. His business
Speaker 4: acumen and the fact that his mom played this important
Speaker 4: role and what would happen if he, you know, stayed
Speaker 4: with the Didas didn't want to go to Nike. And
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these small little decisions that somebody makes,
Speaker 4: and you go, that's a billion dollar decision right there,
Speaker 4: if not more a couple of billion dollars. And all
Speaker 4: it was was, we're going there and we're gonna we're
Speaker 4: going to talk to these people at Nike, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, you're just sometimes it takes that it's just
Speaker 4: a small thing with a lot of these guys. And
Speaker 4: they're competitive too. I find this too in interviewing. You
Speaker 4: got to be competitive with somebody competitive, don't be afraid
Speaker 4: to let them know you know what you're talking about
Speaker 4: and go after them a little bit. Pat Riley famously
Speaker 4: shut me down one time. Don Shulish shut me down
Speaker 4: one time because they didn't think I knew what I
Speaker 4: was talking about, and they could have been correct but
Speaker 4: what I was asking was not, you know, something really serious.
Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't goodwill hunting and I'm solving a
Speaker 4: problem on a chalkboard. But I asked Jack Ramsey. I said,
Speaker 4: give me a question. I can ask pat Riley NBA
Speaker 4: Finals and Jack Jack was just a wonderful, wonderful man.
Speaker 1: He goes, Dan, bakers are Miami. Who's he with?
Speaker 4: He was with the Knicks?
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, Nick, Yeah, yeah, the Knicks.
Speaker 4: So he goes, Dan, this is what you ask him?
Speaker 4: And so he's got this elaborate thing, and I'm so
Speaker 4: I go over there. It's a you know, a group
Speaker 4: interview with Riley, and I asked the question and he
Speaker 4: didn't even answer. He looked at me and he didn't
Speaker 4: even answer it. And I walked back over and Jack goes,
Speaker 4: what did he say, Dan? I said, he didn't say anything.
Speaker 4: He goes, he knew you knew something. I go, uh,
Speaker 4: I don't. I just think I just embarrassed myself in
Speaker 4: front of him. He goes, no, you didn't, Dan, you
Speaker 4: learned from me, like you know, a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 4: wonderful man. And he was trying to I think he
Speaker 4: knew that Riley knew that Jack gave me the question
Speaker 4: to ask him and he wasn't going to give up
Speaker 4: the answer to the reporters there. That's all right, you know,
Speaker 4: it's sorry.
Speaker 1: That's why Rogers is so hard for me sometimes because
Speaker 1: he and Andrew Locke was really hard Chris. I know,
Speaker 1: he was just on your Thursday Night show. Because they're
Speaker 1: smarter than you. I'll never out, you know, and Rogers
Speaker 1: knows what's coming luck New And I was like, damn it,
Speaker 1: stop being so smart. Just listen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I find those they'll play you know, kind
Speaker 4: of verbal tennis with you a little bit. They'll help
Speaker 4: you do your job. I found Rogers would be engaging.
Speaker 4: And when I talked to him after the draft when
Speaker 4: they took Jordan Love and I said, you know why
Speaker 4: forefingers with your tequila? And he said there wasn't any
Speaker 4: any more tequila, like he had that amount of tequila
Speaker 4: only because that's all the tequila that was left at
Speaker 4: the time. And you know, so you're asking him about
Speaker 4: that process and he allowed me to go into his
Speaker 4: home when I was asking the quest. And that's all
Speaker 4: you want is if you break through the barrier. Now,
Speaker 4: what do you do when you get in the house.
Speaker 4: Are we sitting in the living room, the kitchen? Are
Speaker 4: we going down to the man cave? Are we going
Speaker 4: to the bedroom? But I want to know where where
Speaker 4: are we going? Is it going to be a fun,
Speaker 4: intimate conversation. Is it going to be sort of status quo?
Speaker 4: Like I want to be in the kitchen with you?
Speaker 4: Living room? Nothing good happens in the living room now
Speaker 4: except for the Christmas tree and that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you know, whenever you go over and you
Speaker 4: were meeting a girl and you were going to take
Speaker 4: her to prom, you went in the living room like
Speaker 4: it was always and they'd have plastic on the furniture, Like,
Speaker 4: nothing good happens in the living room. But you get
Speaker 4: into the kitchen with an athlete or a coach or something,
Speaker 4: then it's like just sitting around and it becomes a
Speaker 4: little bit more of a uh, let's chat. And that's
Speaker 4: another thing I always tell my students. Don't interview somebody.
Speaker 4: Have a conversation with somebody, because then it doesn't sound
Speaker 4: like an interrogation because if I ask you questions and
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, peppering you, You're gonna tense up
Speaker 4: a little bit. But if we're having a conversation, then
Speaker 4: I feel like, okay, let me hear your tone and
Speaker 4: that'll tell that kind of dictates you can have a
Speaker 4: velvet hammer. That's the way I view it is, Hey,
Speaker 4: it may hurt, but it's not gonna hurt as much,
Speaker 4: or it's gonna look better than a hammer coming at you.
Speaker 4: It'll be a velvet hammer. But ask that question and
Speaker 4: get that conversation going, because when you do, that's when
Speaker 4: they forget they're being interviewed. And and it's hard to
Speaker 4: do that, really hard. But when you do, then you
Speaker 4: got magic. And that's all you want. You want that
Speaker 4: sound bite. And I always respected when when you had
Speaker 4: to ask two questions, you got your two questions on
Speaker 4: the sidelines. I'd be like, God love you, ma'am, God
Speaker 4: love you, because I couldn't do it. What are you
Speaker 4: going to say to your team second half? Like like, coach,
Speaker 4: what do you need to work on? After that? Every
Speaker 4: goddamn thing is what I need to do. They're like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute. Contractually I get to ask you one
Speaker 4: more question.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I want to see you
Speaker 1: interview Mike McDaniel on the sideline at half time because
Speaker 1: that questions. My dream is to see Dan Patrick interview
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel at halftime. And then I reached out.
Speaker 4: I had Fritzie reach out to Mike McDaniel two weeks
Speaker 4: ago and I said, you know, hey, we'd love to
Speaker 4: have you on the show. And the message we got
Speaker 4: back was I'd like to talk to Dan in the
Speaker 4: off season.
Speaker 1: Huh, that was it, because he wants to talk for
Speaker 1: a long time. He is very I.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love you know when everybody is
Speaker 4: a cookie cutter and it's like, oh, that's the coach.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants that. I want a guy who like is
Speaker 4: difficult or irascible. I mean, I don't want Belichick or
Speaker 4: Popovich per se, because that's not good for you know,
Speaker 4: our jobs. But when you get somebody who wants to
Speaker 4: kind of push back at you a little bit, give
Speaker 4: you a ship like Jim Beheim always wanted to, you know,
Speaker 4: push back John Caliperry wanted to give me ship like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's what you want because there, as I say
Speaker 4: to my daughter's boyfriends, if I like you, I'm going
Speaker 4: to give you a ship. And if I don't, then
Speaker 4: anything time to pack your back, like you just have
Speaker 4: fun with somebody that you care about or you want
Speaker 4: to engage with. And I've been fortunate that you can
Speaker 4: kind of push back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bob Knight became right in front of your microphone.
Speaker 4: That is Lou Holtz at Arkansas.
Speaker 1: The red sweater and the white shirt underneath. I thought
Speaker 1: it was Bob.
Speaker 4: I have Bob Knight, A big doll back there, a
Speaker 4: big carving or something. People send me stuff all the time.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I got this is,
Speaker 4: I have this man case. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 4: going to do with my career is over because I
Speaker 4: have to take all this stuff home, and you know,
Speaker 4: my my wife loves that. You know, there's no sports
Speaker 4: stuff at home.
Speaker 1: When is the end of your career? When you wanted
Speaker 1: more years? Four more years? Really? Why good? Chris? I
Speaker 1: think that learning that was great.
Speaker 4: I want to be able to do it at a
Speaker 4: certain level, hopefully maintain that level, and then you you
Speaker 4: bow out. It's a young person's game, trying to stay relevant,
Speaker 4: having the energy, the enthusiasm, having something new to tell people.
Speaker 4: You know, those are all challenges, but it's every day
Speaker 4: where you think about that. What I mean there are
Speaker 4: shows that I went to see one direction. I would
Speaker 4: go see Taylor Swift if I could get the like,
Speaker 4: I want to stay young, at least in my mind
Speaker 4: of what is out there, what is somebody doing, what
Speaker 4: are they saying, what are the shows that people are watching,
Speaker 4: the athletes, the younger at like all of that stuff,
Speaker 4: and it's doing your homework. And I just want to
Speaker 4: make sure, you know, I do it in a way
Speaker 4: that you laugh with me, not at me. And that's
Speaker 4: my that's my big concern. That's my big fear is damn,
Speaker 4: he's still doing that, like you don't know. I know,
Speaker 4: but that's unfortunately, that's the approach I have. It's I'm
Speaker 4: still trying to prove myself after all these years. Every
Speaker 4: single day, I know, but I have no other approach
Speaker 4: to that. I have no other approach. I can't do
Speaker 4: it any any other way. And it's as I said,
Speaker 4: going back, you don't enjoy it because you're always going
Speaker 4: straight ahead. There's nothing wrong with pulling over the side
Speaker 4: of the road and going all right and then getting
Speaker 4: back in the you know, the H O V lane
Speaker 4: or whatever. But that's, yeah, that's what that's the only
Speaker 4: way I know how to do it, So four more
Speaker 4: years and then I'll bow out Christmas Eve in four
Speaker 4: more years.
Speaker 1: On that illustrious resume. The occasionally accurate annuals.
Speaker 4: We were trying.
Speaker 1: We were trying to why the book.
Speaker 4: Every football book is serious and it's about gladiators and
Speaker 4: it's about you know, all this stuff. Macho and Joel
Speaker 4: cohen Co wrote the book and he writes for the Simpsons.
Speaker 4: And he called me up and he said, hey, would
Speaker 4: you like to be in a Simpsons episode? And I
Speaker 4: said sure. I said I want to play myself. He goes, no, no,
Speaker 4: you'll just be a generic announcer. I said, that's playing
Speaker 4: myself and you're going to do some rock skipping. That's
Speaker 4: a rock skipping competition with Homer Simpson, and you're going
Speaker 4: to do play by play. And I go, I'm all
Speaker 4: in and he goes, okay, Hey, can you explain to
Speaker 4: me why Mark Sanchez gets criticized for the butt fumble
Speaker 4: when Vince Wilford blew up the tackle that bounced into
Speaker 4: Mark and I go, And so we started talking and
Speaker 4: then he said, you know, I got one other thing,
Speaker 4: and then he would bring something up and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I would say stuff back to it.
Speaker 4: So we were basically exchanging ideas. And then I think
Speaker 4: after twenty minutes, he goes, do you want to write
Speaker 4: a book? And I go sure. Now I didn't know
Speaker 4: what he was talking about. I just said, sure, write
Speaker 4: a book. Yeah, I don't know. And then he goes,
Speaker 4: I'm going to write all this stuff down. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: come back at you. And then we just would talk
Speaker 4: on the phone. And then it was all tongue in cheek,
Speaker 4: fun stuff, goofy stuff, some serious stuff, some stuff we
Speaker 4: made up. And I just thought, you know what, have
Speaker 4: a little levity with this, have a little fun with this,
Speaker 4: poke a little fun at it. And he was wonderful
Speaker 4: to just talk to. And then Andy Richter from Conan
Speaker 4: he had a question he wanted to write something like
Speaker 4: all of these people that he knew were like, hey,
Speaker 4: can I tell why? You know how I became a
Speaker 4: Vikings fan and I used to sleep naked with the
Speaker 4: windows open to get used to the cold and be
Speaker 4: And then I'd been like, sure, can we talk about
Speaker 4: nipple Gate? And I said, we can talk about whatever
Speaker 4: you want. I'm going to talk about nipplegate and sure,
Speaker 4: we're talking nipplegate here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to rename this book the Random Shit
Speaker 1: you want to talk About with.
Speaker 4: That might have been a better title than the occasionally
Speaker 4: accurate Annals. I just love having you trying to say animals.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, we're going to let you go. But before
Speaker 1: we do that, E, do you want anything before we
Speaker 1: let Dan get back to his life. No, I just
Speaker 1: I love you and I hope you're well and how
Speaker 1: is your health? Are you good?
Speaker 4: I'm going into New York once a month, get wired
Speaker 4: up there for a little bit, but a whole lot
Speaker 4: better than I was because I went down a dark
Speaker 4: hole there for quite some time. And yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I never knew depression. Never Like when somebody says, oh,
Speaker 4: I suffer from depression, I'm like, how do you suffer
Speaker 4: from depression? Then all of a sudden you get depression
Speaker 4: and you're going, holy shit. So whenever anybody brings it
Speaker 4: up up now, man, I want to know, I want
Speaker 4: you to talk because it's that that was as that
Speaker 4: I almost quit the business. I physically couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 4: climb the steps to get into the studio, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: I am I'm in bad shape, but everything's good. Better.
Speaker 4: Got a granddaughter and uh, little Josephine, so life is good.
Speaker 4: She is going to be eight months. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's not fair how cute she is.
Speaker 1: My dad said, if I knew how great being a
Speaker 1: grandparent was, I would have never been a parent. It's
Speaker 1: a whole different thing.
Speaker 4: When you're on it is. Man, you can love them
Speaker 4: and then you just hand them off.
Speaker 1: That's how it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But look, I I'm proud of you too, the women
Speaker 4: you are okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: You're going to make me cry, that's not possible. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I am proud of you. And we've we've navigated some
Speaker 4: some waters there, that's certainly. But you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: glad whatever role I play, I'm very happy to be
Speaker 4: a sounding board or just a friend. And just a
Speaker 4: friend is not fair to say I'm proud to be
Speaker 4: a friend.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, Dan, I'm modus hi for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: we love you, so love you a lot. I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful for you. So those were some of our favorite
Speaker 1: moments from twenty twenty three. But we couldn't do any
Speaker 1: of this without you. Guys are wonderful listeners and followers.
Speaker 1: I know Erin and I talked about it all the time.
Speaker 1: But when you guys yell out from games and from
Speaker 1: the sidelines that you love calm down, or the questions
Speaker 1: that you write in, we cannot thank you guys enough
Speaker 1: for supporting us through all the ups and downs. We
Speaker 1: love you, We love you, we love you. Thank you
Speaker 1: for another incredible year and all your support. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: when we're walking our dogs and you scream from across
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