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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our best of twenty twenty three. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right back to our interview with GEO. That's what

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Speaker 1: we call on Greg Wilson. Greg, I know you have

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Speaker 1: a vacation to get to, but hold on. I really

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Speaker 1: need to know your thoughts on this because you're such

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Speaker 1: a gentleman. You're a great husband, You're a great father,

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Speaker 1: you're a great teammate. These kids are so well behaved

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Speaker 1: and lovely, and I want Max Stole to be just

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Speaker 1: like them. Yes, all of the above, thank you. But

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Speaker 1: if your wife wants to go get a Starbucks and

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Speaker 1: you guys are on a connecting flight okay, and you've

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Speaker 1: heard the announcement like they're boarding yours now again, you

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Speaker 1: get on late to the plane like I do, so

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Speaker 1: this may, you know, be an indication of what you're

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Speaker 1: going to say. But she wants to go get a

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Speaker 1: Starbucks and you're like, hey, we're cutting it close, like

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Speaker 1: don't go get a Starbucks. But she's like, hey, yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to. I want to. So you go to

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Speaker 1: the plane and then the plane is going to take

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Speaker 1: off and she's not there yet. Do you get off

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Speaker 1: the plane and make sure that she like is with

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Speaker 1: you or story the guy the guy left without his wife.

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Speaker 1: He was like, she took too long. I told her

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Speaker 1: not to go to Starbucks. What would you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably wouldn't board with outer because you do.

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Speaker 2: It probably been like a whisp.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 2: I probably didn't have the problem. Is I probably my

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Speaker 2: boarding pass was probably on her phone. Yes, but you know,

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Speaker 2: but I think if I put myself in that situation,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have boarded the plane without her. There would

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Speaker 2: have been like a whisper fight, you know, like a

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Speaker 2: really like silent whisper fight, saying like why are you

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Speaker 2: going to get a Starbucks right now? Where there would

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Speaker 2: have been like a whisper like a whisper fight back

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Speaker 2: and forth where like we think we're the only like

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Speaker 2: everyone knows you're fighting, but you think no one knows

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Speaker 2: you're fighting, you know. So there probably would have been

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Speaker 2: like one of those going on. Hopefully I would have

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Speaker 2: won the fight. Unlikely that I did. If there was

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Speaker 2: no line at Starbucks, I probably would have hung tight.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I probably I would not have boarded the

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Speaker 2: flight without her. That's that's I could prove that happen.

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Speaker 2: That would be the case. But if she put us

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Speaker 2: in that position, it wouldn't the whisper fight would have escalated.

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Speaker 1: The whisper fight. Is this a common Olsen term? A

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Speaker 1: whisper fight?

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Speaker 2: So my wife and I always had this joke, like

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Speaker 2: when the twins were little, we we didn't sleep for

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Speaker 2: like a year. In our again it was probably two months,

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Speaker 2: but in our mind it's a year, and like we

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Speaker 2: would we had this running joke that like as long

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Speaker 2: as in the morning, whatever happened in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the night didn't count.

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Speaker 3: So like the twins and sleep.

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Speaker 2: They'd alternate, you're tired, you're being mean, Like whatever we

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Speaker 2: whisper fighted in the middle of the night. When we

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Speaker 2: woke up in the morning, like when we when our

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Speaker 2: check in and be like are we good, Like nothing

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Speaker 2: that happened, nothing that happened throughout the night counted. We'd

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Speaker 2: start fresh in the morning, and the whisper fights they

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Speaker 2: don't count. So so that was kind of our like

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Speaker 2: deal for us, and it got us through like the

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Speaker 2: first year of having the twins, and we've always tried

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Speaker 2: to stick to that plan, Like if we're gonna fight,

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Speaker 2: we gotta fight.

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Speaker 3: But if we're whisper fighting, it doesn't count.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get a sense of what whisper

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Speaker 1: fighting is because in our house and be like there's

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Speaker 1: such an asshole, like but I can't imagine whispering, Like.

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Speaker 2: What's a whisper fighting is? So like whisper fighting is

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Speaker 2: like stop, you need.

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Speaker 3: A fucking Starbucks? Now, what about to board the plane?

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Speaker 2: Get a Starbucks on the plane or like, you know,

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Speaker 2: when when the babies were small, it was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: Why don't you try to put them asleep? You're gonna

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Speaker 3: wake up? There's this you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: you want to say everything, but you're talking like I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: What do you think I'm doing?

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Speaker 2: You know, so that whisper fighting is like not a

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Speaker 2: real fight, and we were we were on the same

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Speaker 1: We call that a mister and missus in our house.

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Speaker 1: If you're having a fight, well, we had a mister

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Speaker 1: and missus yesterday. It wasn't good.

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Speaker 2: And as long as you make as long as you

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Speaker 2: don't end the day or start the day on whatever

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Speaker 2: that fight is, it's good as long as it doesn't

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Speaker 2: linger You're.

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Speaker 1: Good, okay, So Greg, I'd be remissed because Aaron is

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Speaker 1: very great at impersonations. She's done it of Sean McVay,

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Speaker 1: she's done it of myself, she's done it of you

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Speaker 1: and keV. I need you to give me your best

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Speaker 1: Aaron andrews impersonation. It could be anything. It could be

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Speaker 1: on the sideline, it could be in a meeting, it

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Speaker 1: could be at dinner the night before. I need you

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Speaker 1: to put together and think about it. I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to rush, and I'm putting you on the spot here.

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Speaker 1: But this chick is great calling out other people. So

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Speaker 1: I think that you need to. Having spent the most

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Speaker 1: time with her over the last year and a half

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Speaker 1: on the road in various you know positions, give me

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Speaker 1: your best Aaron andrews impersonation an setting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is this is a lot of pressure. This

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Speaker 2: this is a lot of pressure. I'm not prepared. This

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Speaker 2: is impromptu. I would love to hear Aaron's impression of me.

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Speaker 2: First of all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Saron, do you know you can do it? Whenever

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Speaker 1: it is when I don't want to say the team

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to put them on the spot.

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Speaker 1: But we were at I know what you're what, it's

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Speaker 1: my favorite. We're like, by the way, very few people

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Speaker 1: can make Aaron cry laughing. This is Greg Olsen to

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Speaker 1: her on like a daily affairs every week in our meetings.

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Speaker 1: I asked him, you know how I asked you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: if you took a xanax when you do our end

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Speaker 1: gate breaks, because you're like, and the Bears are losing

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about then? Before? Well?

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Speaker 1: Why I do about it? Let's talk about it, go Greg.

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Speaker 1: So this turned from I need to make fun of Aaron.

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Speaker 1: So now we're back on me.

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Speaker 2: We're going to We're going to get to Aaron in

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Speaker 2: a minute. But I said this to Aaron the other

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Speaker 2: day actually at our production meeting. If I have a

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Speaker 2: great thought, a great replay, I'm like, this is gonna

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Speaker 2: be a great moment of the game. You can bet

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Speaker 2: your bottom dollar I'm gonna get whispered in my ear.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Crista with a game break.

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Speaker 2: One hundred out of one hundred times, one hundred out

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Speaker 2: of one hundred times. And I'm like, that was the

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Speaker 2: most interesting play of the last forty five. I had

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Speaker 2: nothing to say for forty five minutes. I got a

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Speaker 2: great play.

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Speaker 1: It's not cool point.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna go to Chris on a game break, and

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Speaker 3: then it's like, thanks, keV. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Here we have the Vikings, the Vikings and the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, justin Herbert going back connects Mike Williams six

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Speaker 3: Back to you, keV.

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Speaker 2: keV, you know what I mean, Like can point three

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Speaker 2: and by and by that point three plays have been

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Speaker 1: But you're praying, go babe. I have to say just keV,

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Speaker 1: because I want to say all your guys name, and

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Speaker 1: there's twelve of you on the staff, so I can't

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Speaker 1: get through up. So I just gotta cut it down

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Speaker 1: to keV. Okay, I put a side where the games

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Speaker 1: breaks come through. Half the time, I'm not paying attention.

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Speaker 1: All I hear is let's go to Carissa. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I've had so many panic moments where Terry Bradshaw's been

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I hear, let's go to Chrissa,

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Speaker 1: gonna get. But anyways, so that's I said. Chrissen took

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Speaker 1: like a xanax on doing those production meetings. Greig is

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Speaker 1: again one of the best teammates I've ever had, and

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Speaker 1: like he is in our production meetings, I just have

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Speaker 1: he comes to production meetings and he's ready, like it's

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Speaker 1: not a whisper fight. It is like I asked him

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Speaker 1: He's just like, so, we have to tell America the story,

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Speaker 1: sit there Rich Gross another one of my whole time

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Speaker 1: and we're just like like it's insane. But Greg, last

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Speaker 1: really fun meeting and actually Greg brought us all gifts

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Speaker 1: and he basically diagnoses the whole game. He gives us

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Speaker 1: I just have to tell you. He sticks this giant

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Speaker 1: I looked at Kevin. I was like, I'm just seized.

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Speaker 1: They're in a free fall.

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Speaker 3: That's a true story. Yeah, I'll be honest. I gave

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Speaker 2: I had like four baskets and chips in the meeting

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Speaker 2: this past week in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't eaten all morning, and you.

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Speaker 1: Don't light attendant, So how could you? Yeah, you're not

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Speaker 1: You're not accepting anything she's offering. This guy, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Eat airplane food.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I guess my favorite My my favorite

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Speaker 2: thing about e A is I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: much of it's like an impression or like my favorite

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Speaker 2: the story the interview, like she has it, but as

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Speaker 2: she's getting it out, it's like, listen, guys, I don't

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Speaker 2: have a thing.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm a mother. I'm a mother.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys realize? But like she has to go

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Speaker 3: through like.

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Speaker 2: The whole self deprecate, I'm a mother, and then at

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Speaker 2: the end she she like lays it out. We're like, yeah, eyah,

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Speaker 2: that's your open that's your question. You know, damn well

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Speaker 2: what you want to say?

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Speaker 1: No one don't.

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Speaker 2: You're the fucking best and anyone who's ever done this

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Speaker 2: like you got it, Like we can skip to that part.

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Speaker 1: I love you now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to screw up. You've gotten this far

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Speaker 4: like you're proud of. It's like you know when a

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00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 4: supermodel gets wrinkles, like that's life. You know, you've been smiling,

437
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 4: it's okay. And I just and I didn't call myself

438
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 4: a supermodel, by the way, I'm just saying that you

439
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: you're not. It's not perfect. And I tried to be

440
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: perfect when I started this. Every sports Center I did,

441
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 4: every single one. I'd get done, i'd grab the tape,

442
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 4: I'd go upstairs and I would watch the entire Sports

443
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: Center because I was looking for things that I did wrong,

444
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: and I thought, what am I like? So you're kind

445
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: Even I'd make a mistake on camera and I'd be

446
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: thinking about it through the whole show. And I don't

447
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 4: know if you guys have gone through that where you

448
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: make a mistake pregame or something, and you're going, oh, God,

449
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 4: damn it, it's just there. But I was looking for

450
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: everything that was wrong. How'd the tie look, how'd my

451
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: hair look, how did I sound? And it was just

452
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 4: I was driving myself crazy because I couldn't just go

453
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 4: out there and go I made a mistake. I can

454
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 4: deal with it. And it took a long time to

455
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 4: do that. And you know, Keith Oberman helped immensely because

456
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: he's like, DP, fuck it, move on, and then he's right.

457
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 4: But in the moment, you're like, God, I want to

458
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 4: I want to be perfect. You know, that's probably why

459
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: I got to where I am. But it also can really,

460
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 4: you know, take its toll on you because you want

461
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 4: to be great all the time. You know, the motto

462
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 4: is every day is the super Bowl, and if you

463
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 4: don't have that approach, then you're going to fall in

464
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 4: your face sometimes because you weren't prepared. And it goes

465
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 4: back to that first day in radio when I didn't

466
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 4: know how to pronounce the Ayatola's name, and I never

467
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 4: forgot that feeling of being humiliated, and so it's always there,

468
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: you know, forty years later, I'm emotional.

469
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm emotional because I am I'm like sitting here crying

470
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: because a lot of this is relatable. But also I

471
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: was telling Chris one question I wanted to ask you,

472
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: was I feel like in this whole thing has been

473
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: like just like a relay race, right, Like you just

474
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: go as fast as you can because you want to

475
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: keep up and you want to keep reinventing yourself, you

476
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: want to stay relevant, but you don't take the time

477
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. And there's things I look back at

478
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: college game day I wish I enjoyed more. I wish

479
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: I had taken pictures. But this is so special that

480
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: we have you in our life. We have you somebody

481
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: we looked up to, we wanted to be like, we

482
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: wanted to work with, and we have you as a friend.

483
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: And just to hear you tell these stories that you

484
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: know are so passionate and things that we are so

485
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: interested in. I don't know.

486
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: I never celebrate it. I never celebrated. I never stopped.

487
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: And my wife goes celebrate the victories. I go, hun,

488
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 4: I need big victories hard, like, hey, you know you're

489
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: going to win an award, And she would say no,

490
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 4: like did you have a good show? I say, well,

491
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, I guess she goes, but you

492
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: got to celebrate it and I and she was so right,

493
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: as she always is, and I just missed out on that.

494
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: So I would say to you, guys, man, the small things,

495
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 4: and you know, having a baby, just those small things,

496
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 4: those are things you should be doing in your career,

497
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: noticing the small things. It's like when your baby does

498
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: something small and you go, God, did you see that?

499
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 4: That was awesome? She ate an avocado? Oh my God,

500
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: Like have fun and remember it because you chase constantly

501
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 4: I did. I kept thinking, well, next job, or next paycheck,

502
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: or next raise, or next next, next, next, next, next,

503
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: And I never ever stopped. It's okay to look open

504
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 4: the scrap book and just go, yeah, that was fun. Okay,

505
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: So let people and the memories.

506
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: So let's let's do this as I applied, Mike, do

507
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: you have a few more minutes for us? Because I

508
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: know we're.

509
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: Already I have, I have life for you.

510
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you. I know to me right now,

511
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: she's a mother, she's emotional.

512
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: I guess I'm a mother too. I'm a mother too.

513
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: The best part is Daniel, one of the funniest people

514
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: we know, and Aaron and I don't cry ever, and

515
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: here we are, okay, so rapid fire. Since somebody is

516
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 1: by Dan Patrick's school of question asking favorite interview, I

517
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: don't have one. Least favorite interview.

518
00:25:51,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: Ooh, Tanya Harding was was painful. Why there? You go?

519
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 4: Right there? Boom, that's what you do? Why Well? I

520
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: brought up Nancy Kerrigan. She I had never interviewed her,

521
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: and she had found religion, and I wanted to know

522
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: how her religion accepted what she did and what she was,

523
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: how she was a part of Nancy Carrigan and you know,

524
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: her husband and all those things, and so good. She

525
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: follow up, She goes, are we are we going to

526
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: really talk about this? And I go yes, And then

527
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: all of a sudden I hear, hold on, Paul once

528
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: talk to you. Well, I don't know who Paul is.

529
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 4: Paul goes, Dan, we're going down this road, and I go, uh,

530
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: who are you?

531
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: Jeff's brother.

532
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm her agent and a PR person, and I go, look,

533
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: I've never had so they cut short the interview, but

534
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask her about it. I interviewed O. J. Simpson.

535
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: This was after the double murder.

536
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: And what was your first question?

537
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: I don't remember my first question, because we were we

538
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: were talking football. Okay, I made a terrible mistake. Iowa,

539
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: I think was playing USC and the Orange Bowl, and

540
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: I thought, you know what, Oj, you know he was

541
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: found not guilty, he was still a wonderful football player.

542
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 4: Maybe we talked to OJ Simpson, well he agrees, and

543
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: we just talked football and USC and all those things,

544
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: and we were changing tapes. So I did thirty minutes

545
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: and then we stopped. And so you know, that feels

546
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: like forever when somebody's reloading their camera and it's just

547
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: him and we're just sitting next to each other and

548
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: like four feet apart, and he goes, you think I

549
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: did it? And I go did what? And he said kill? Yes,

550
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: but I wanted him to say it, so I said

551
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: did what? And he said killed those two people? And

552
00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: I said yes. And then and then my cameraman goes, okay,

553
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: we're okay, we're ready to roll. Oh shit, yeah.

554
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: So what happened?

555
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: Dan? He kept trying to tell me how he was

556
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 4: not guilty, and he goes, you don't know how crazy

557
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: my life is. Do you know that I was in

558
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 4: Vegas and I walked by a room and they were

559
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: shooting a porn and they wanted me Oj to be

560
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: in the porn and like it was going, it was

561
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: going in a direction where it wasn't going to make air.

562
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: And I just let him talk. But he was trying

563
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: to convince me because I just told him to his face. Yes,

564
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: I thought that he killed you know, his his wife,

565
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: oh Ron Goldman. Yeah. So that one was an interesting conversation.

566
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor, I thought was going to beat me up.

567
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: Really yeah, I'd ask him. He had been suspended for

568
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: cocaine use and he read a statement to the print

569
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: media and I was at training camp and then he

570
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: came out. They wouldn't let camera people in and he

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: came out and he was walking to his car, and

572
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: I was working at CNN at the time, and I said,

573
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: would you read the statement on camera? And then he

574
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: said you need to get the real story. And I said,

575
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: I have the full story. I talked to your agent.

576
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: And then he walked away, and then I thought, oh god,

577
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: all right, here I go, and I went up to

578
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: him again. I said, look, I need you to read

579
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: that on camera. You know that I wasn't able to

580
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: be in there. They wouldn't allow cameras and then he

581
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: had the darkest sunglasses on ever. I could see the

582
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: whites of his eyes through his sunglasses and he's staring

583
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: at me, and I go, oh, my gosh. I felt

584
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: like I was Ken O'Brien of the Jets, and he

585
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: was coming after me, sacked me, and he's my neighbor.

586
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, I tell the street, Yeah, it's awesome.

587
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: He's a good guy. I felt that he's one of

588
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: the first guys I ever felt bad for. I saw

589
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: fear in his eyes when Lawrence Taylor was chasing him

590
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: during a game, and I go, that that is fear

591
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: right there, That is fear. But he got into his

592
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: he had a dark blue Portia, and he peeled out

593
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: and Peter King was working I think for news Day.

594
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: He runs out, he goes, what did he say? And

595
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: I told him the story, and I think Peter quoted

596
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: me in Newsday that Lawrence Taylor basically told me to

597
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: get fucked as he got his car. I mean, these

598
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 4: are the moments that people don't really care. Like when

599
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: you're getting in the business, you don't you know that

600
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: that you don't want to have these moments, Like you

601
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: don't have these moments come on, you know, and then

602
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: you do where you know, sometimes you're asking a tough

603
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: question and you know, I just I just try to

604
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: be professional the best I can. Never try to be sensationalistic,

605
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: and I don't do gotcha. I don't do any of

606
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: that stuff. But there are times when you go, God,

607
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: this is gonna hurt. When I asked this question, bos

608
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: so you gotta do it.

609
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Was there an interview that you wanted, didn't think that

610
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: you would get and you got it.

611
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: Let's see now I could say yes or no to that, right.

612
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Who was a person that you wanted to interview and

613
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you didn't think you could get it, but you got it.

614
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: I think Michael Jordan during the NBA Finals when he

615
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: wasn't talking to the media and then I got a

616
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: chance to talk. I had a great relationship with him.

617
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: I don't really know him, but he was very generous

618
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: with me and he knew that I was I could

619
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: push him a little bit and he was playful. I

620
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: thought he was different when he was on Sports Center

621
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: after they would win those championships and another interview I

622
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: got that's really not headline worthy. But John Stockton never

623
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: did interviews, never the NBA finals NBC would be trying

624
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: Jim Gray would be trying to get John Stockton to

625
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: sit down, and I just remember saying to the p R,

626
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: I was just trying to be funny and I said, hey,

627
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: love to have you know, John to sit down for

628
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: an interview. And he goes, I'll ask, and I go, okay,

629
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: just for shits and giggles comes back and he goes,

630
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: John'll do it. Where do you want to do it?

631
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: And I go what? So we sat down to the interview.

632
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: I just remember NBC's like, wait, what do you wait

633
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: a minute? You know, why don't you do an interview

634
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: with us? And I go, I have no idea. I

635
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: just ask. And I always say that don't be afraid

636
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: to ask. Cool if you can take no, which I

637
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: happened through most of my high school and college career

638
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: with women, like if you can, if you can take

639
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: a no and keep coming back, then you know that's

640
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: you got to have that that thick skin, you have

641
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: to have callouses. And I just remember, you just ask,

642
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 4: you know, I had no problem asking, and if you

643
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: got rejected, you're like, okay.

644
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Do you think you could ask Michael Jordan to do

645
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: calm down as well, like we can book him next week,

646
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: that'd be a easy. No.

647
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: I don't have that pipeline to him anymore, but he

648
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: I would still love to follow up with him, and

649
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: I would love to talk business with him. His business

650
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: acumen and the fact that his mom played this important

651
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: role and what would happen if he, you know, stayed

652
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: with the Didas didn't want to go to Nike. And

653
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these small little decisions that somebody makes,

654
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: and you go, that's a billion dollar decision right there,

655
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: if not more a couple of billion dollars. And all

656
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: it was was, we're going there and we're gonna we're

657
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: going to talk to these people at Nike, and uh,

658
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: you know, you're just sometimes it takes that it's just

659
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: a small thing with a lot of these guys. And

660
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: they're competitive too. I find this too in interviewing. You

661
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 4: got to be competitive with somebody competitive, don't be afraid

662
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: to let them know you know what you're talking about

663
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: and go after them a little bit. Pat Riley famously

664
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: shut me down one time. Don Shulish shut me down

665
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: one time because they didn't think I knew what I

666
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: was talking about, and they could have been correct but

667
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: what I was asking was not, you know, something really serious.

668
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't goodwill hunting and I'm solving a

669
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 4: problem on a chalkboard. But I asked Jack Ramsey. I said,

670
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: give me a question. I can ask pat Riley NBA

671
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: Finals and Jack Jack was just a wonderful, wonderful man.

672
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: He goes, Dan, bakers are Miami. Who's he with?

673
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: He was with the Knicks?

674
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, Nick, Yeah, yeah, the Knicks.

675
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 4: So he goes, Dan, this is what you ask him?

676
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: And so he's got this elaborate thing, and I'm so

677
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 4: I go over there. It's a you know, a group

678
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: interview with Riley, and I asked the question and he

679
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: didn't even answer. He looked at me and he didn't

680
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 4: even answer it. And I walked back over and Jack goes,

681
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: what did he say, Dan? I said, he didn't say anything.

682
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: He goes, he knew you knew something. I go, uh,

683
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: I don't. I just think I just embarrassed myself in

684
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: front of him. He goes, no, you didn't, Dan, you

685
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: learned from me, like you know, a Hall of Famer,

686
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: wonderful man. And he was trying to I think he

687
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: knew that Riley knew that Jack gave me the question

688
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: to ask him and he wasn't going to give up

689
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: the answer to the reporters there. That's all right, you know,

690
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: it's sorry.

691
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: That's why Rogers is so hard for me sometimes because

692
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: he and Andrew Locke was really hard Chris. I know,

693
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: he was just on your Thursday Night show. Because they're

694
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: smarter than you. I'll never out, you know, and Rogers

695
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: knows what's coming luck New And I was like, damn it,

696
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: stop being so smart. Just listen.

697
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I find those they'll play you know, kind

698
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: of verbal tennis with you a little bit. They'll help

699
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: you do your job. I found Rogers would be engaging.

700
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: And when I talked to him after the draft when

701
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: they took Jordan Love and I said, you know why

702
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: forefingers with your tequila? And he said there wasn't any

703
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: any more tequila, like he had that amount of tequila

704
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: only because that's all the tequila that was left at

705
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: the time. And you know, so you're asking him about

706
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 4: that process and he allowed me to go into his

707
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: home when I was asking the quest. And that's all

708
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 4: you want is if you break through the barrier. Now,

709
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: what do you do when you get in the house.

710
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: Are we sitting in the living room, the kitchen? Are

711
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: we going down to the man cave? Are we going

712
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: to the bedroom? But I want to know where where

713
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 4: are we going? Is it going to be a fun,

714
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: intimate conversation. Is it going to be sort of status quo?

715
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 4: Like I want to be in the kitchen with you?

716
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: Living room? Nothing good happens in the living room now

717
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: except for the Christmas tree and that's it.

718
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

719
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you know, whenever you go over and you

720
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: were meeting a girl and you were going to take

721
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: her to prom, you went in the living room like

722
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: it was always and they'd have plastic on the furniture, Like,

723
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: nothing good happens in the living room. But you get

724
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: into the kitchen with an athlete or a coach or something,

725
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: then it's like just sitting around and it becomes a

726
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: little bit more of a uh, let's chat. And that's

727
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: another thing I always tell my students. Don't interview somebody.

728
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: Have a conversation with somebody, because then it doesn't sound

729
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 4: like an interrogation because if I ask you questions and

730
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, peppering you, You're gonna tense up

731
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: a little bit. But if we're having a conversation, then

732
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: I feel like, okay, let me hear your tone and

733
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: that'll tell that kind of dictates you can have a

734
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: velvet hammer. That's the way I view it is, Hey,

735
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: it may hurt, but it's not gonna hurt as much,

736
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: or it's gonna look better than a hammer coming at you.

737
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: It'll be a velvet hammer. But ask that question and

738
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: get that conversation going, because when you do, that's when

739
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: they forget they're being interviewed. And and it's hard to

740
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: do that, really hard. But when you do, then you

741
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: got magic. And that's all you want. You want that

742
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: sound bite. And I always respected when when you had

743
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: to ask two questions, you got your two questions on

744
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: the sidelines. I'd be like, God love you, ma'am, God

745
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: love you, because I couldn't do it. What are you

746
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 4: going to say to your team second half? Like like, coach,

747
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: what do you need to work on? After that? Every

748
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: goddamn thing is what I need to do. They're like,

749
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: wait a minute. Contractually I get to ask you one

750
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: more question.

751
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I want to see you

752
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: interview Mike McDaniel on the sideline at half time because

753
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: that questions. My dream is to see Dan Patrick interview

754
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel at halftime. And then I reached out.

755
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: I had Fritzie reach out to Mike McDaniel two weeks

756
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: ago and I said, you know, hey, we'd love to

757
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: have you on the show. And the message we got

758
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: back was I'd like to talk to Dan in the

759
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: off season.

760
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Huh, that was it, because he wants to talk for

761
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: a long time. He is very I.

762
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: I love it. I love you know when everybody is

763
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: a cookie cutter and it's like, oh, that's the coach.

764
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 4: Nobody wants that. I want a guy who like is

765
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: difficult or irascible. I mean, I don't want Belichick or

766
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 4: Popovich per se, because that's not good for you know,

767
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 4: our jobs. But when you get somebody who wants to

768
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: kind of push back at you a little bit, give

769
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: you a ship like Jim Beheim always wanted to, you know,

770
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: push back John Caliperry wanted to give me ship like that. Yeah,

771
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 4: but that's what you want because there, as I say

772
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: to my daughter's boyfriends, if I like you, I'm going

773
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: to give you a ship. And if I don't, then

774
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: anything time to pack your back, like you just have

775
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: fun with somebody that you care about or you want

776
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: to engage with. And I've been fortunate that you can

777
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: kind of push back a little bit.

778
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Bob Knight became right in front of your microphone.

779
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: That is Lou Holtz at Arkansas.

780
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: The red sweater and the white shirt underneath. I thought

781
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: it was Bob.

782
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: I have Bob Knight, A big doll back there, a

783
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 4: big carving or something. People send me stuff all the time.

784
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I got this is,

785
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: I have this man case. I don't know what I'm

786
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: going to do with my career is over because I

787
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: have to take all this stuff home, and you know,

788
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: my my wife loves that. You know, there's no sports

789
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: stuff at home.

790
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: When is the end of your career? When you wanted

791
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: more years? Four more years? Really? Why good? Chris? I

792
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: think that learning that was great.

793
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: I want to be able to do it at a

794
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: certain level, hopefully maintain that level, and then you you

795
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: bow out. It's a young person's game, trying to stay relevant,

796
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 4: having the energy, the enthusiasm, having something new to tell people.

797
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: You know, those are all challenges, but it's every day

798
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: where you think about that. What I mean there are

799
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: shows that I went to see one direction. I would

800
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 4: go see Taylor Swift if I could get the like,

801
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: I want to stay young, at least in my mind

802
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: of what is out there, what is somebody doing, what

803
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: are they saying, what are the shows that people are watching,

804
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: the athletes, the younger at like all of that stuff,

805
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 4: and it's doing your homework. And I just want to

806
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: make sure, you know, I do it in a way

807
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: that you laugh with me, not at me. And that's

808
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: my that's my big concern. That's my big fear is damn,

809
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: he's still doing that, like you don't know. I know,

810
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 4: but that's unfortunately, that's the approach I have. It's I'm

811
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: still trying to prove myself after all these years. Every

812
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: single day, I know, but I have no other approach

813
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: to that. I have no other approach. I can't do

814
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: it any any other way. And it's as I said,

815
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: going back, you don't enjoy it because you're always going

816
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 4: straight ahead. There's nothing wrong with pulling over the side

817
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 4: of the road and going all right and then getting

818
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: back in the you know, the H O V lane

819
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: or whatever. But that's, yeah, that's what that's the only

820
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: way I know how to do it, So four more

821
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 4: years and then I'll bow out Christmas Eve in four

822
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: more years.

823
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: On that illustrious resume. The occasionally accurate annuals.

824
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: We were trying.

825
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: We were trying to why the book.

826
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: Every football book is serious and it's about gladiators and

827
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: it's about you know, all this stuff. Macho and Joel

828
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 4: cohen Co wrote the book and he writes for the Simpsons.

829
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: And he called me up and he said, hey, would

830
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: you like to be in a Simpsons episode? And I

831
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: said sure. I said I want to play myself. He goes, no, no,

832
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: you'll just be a generic announcer. I said, that's playing

833
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: myself and you're going to do some rock skipping. That's

834
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: a rock skipping competition with Homer Simpson, and you're going

835
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: to do play by play. And I go, I'm all

836
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: in and he goes, okay, Hey, can you explain to

837
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: me why Mark Sanchez gets criticized for the butt fumble

838
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 4: when Vince Wilford blew up the tackle that bounced into

839
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: Mark and I go, And so we started talking and

840
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: then he said, you know, I got one other thing,

841
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: and then he would bring something up and then all

842
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I would say stuff back to it.

843
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: So we were basically exchanging ideas. And then I think

844
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: after twenty minutes, he goes, do you want to write

845
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: a book? And I go sure. Now I didn't know

846
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: what he was talking about. I just said, sure, write

847
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: a book. Yeah, I don't know. And then he goes,

848
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to write all this stuff down. I'm gonna

849
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: come back at you. And then we just would talk

850
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 4: on the phone. And then it was all tongue in cheek,

851
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: fun stuff, goofy stuff, some serious stuff, some stuff we

852
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 4: made up. And I just thought, you know what, have

853
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: a little levity with this, have a little fun with this,

854
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: poke a little fun at it. And he was wonderful

855
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: to just talk to. And then Andy Richter from Conan

856
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: he had a question he wanted to write something like

857
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: all of these people that he knew were like, hey,

858
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 4: can I tell why? You know how I became a

859
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: Vikings fan and I used to sleep naked with the

860
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 4: windows open to get used to the cold and be

861
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: And then I'd been like, sure, can we talk about

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Speaker 4: nipple Gate? And I said, we can talk about whatever

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Speaker 4: you want. I'm going to talk about nipplegate and sure,

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Speaker 4: we're talking nipplegate here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to rename this book the Random Shit

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Speaker 1: you want to talk About with.

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Speaker 4: That might have been a better title than the occasionally

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Speaker 4: accurate Annals. I just love having you trying to say animals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, we're going to let you go. But before

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Speaker 1: we do that, E, do you want anything before we

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Speaker 1: let Dan get back to his life. No, I just

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Speaker 1: I love you and I hope you're well and how

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Speaker 1: is your health? Are you good?

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Speaker 4: I'm going into New York once a month, get wired

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Speaker 4: up there for a little bit, but a whole lot

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Speaker 4: better than I was because I went down a dark

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Speaker 4: hole there for quite some time. And yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I never knew depression. Never Like when somebody says, oh,

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Speaker 4: I suffer from depression, I'm like, how do you suffer

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Speaker 4: from depression? Then all of a sudden you get depression

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Speaker 4: and you're going, holy shit. So whenever anybody brings it

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Speaker 4: up up now, man, I want to know, I want

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Speaker 4: you to talk because it's that that was as that

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Speaker 4: I almost quit the business. I physically couldn't. I couldn't

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Speaker 4: climb the steps to get into the studio, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: I am I'm in bad shape, but everything's good. Better.

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Speaker 4: Got a granddaughter and uh, little Josephine, so life is good.

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Speaker 4: She is going to be eight months. Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: it's not fair how cute she is.

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Speaker 1: My dad said, if I knew how great being a

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Speaker 1: grandparent was, I would have never been a parent. It's

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Speaker 1: a whole different thing.

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Speaker 4: When you're on it is. Man, you can love them

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Speaker 4: and then you just hand them off.

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Speaker 1: That's how it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But look, I I'm proud of you too, the women

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Speaker 4: you are okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're going to make me cry, that's not possible. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I am proud of you. And we've we've navigated some

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Speaker 4: some waters there, that's certainly. But you know what, I'm

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Speaker 4: glad whatever role I play, I'm very happy to be

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Speaker 4: a sounding board or just a friend. And just a

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Speaker 4: friend is not fair to say I'm proud to be

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Speaker 4: a friend.

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Speaker 1: No, thank you, Dan, I'm modus hi for you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we love you, so love you a lot. I'm so

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Speaker 1: grateful for you. So those were some of our favorite

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Speaker 1: moments from twenty twenty three. But we couldn't do any

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Speaker 1: of this without you. Guys are wonderful listeners and followers.

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Speaker 1: I know Erin and I talked about it all the time.

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Speaker 1: But when you guys yell out from games and from

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Speaker 1: the sidelines that you love calm down, or the questions

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Speaker 1: that you write in, we cannot thank you guys enough

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Speaker 1: for supporting us through all the ups and downs. We

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Speaker 1: love you, We love you, we love you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for another incredible year and all your support. Yeah, even

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Speaker 1: when we're walking our dogs and you scream from across

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Speaker 1: the street, calm down, and my husband thinks it's like

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Speaker 1: something that we did, and I'm like, no, it's the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how old you are, if you're a guy, girl, anything.

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Speaker 1: We're just so excited. Everybody's listening. Even you had coaches

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys so much. Happy holidays, Happy New Year,

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