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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dropping Gem's podcast. What's up, everybody? Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining me. I'm your host Stevie Brown. Today

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Speaker 1: be so massively distributed and translated and not and and

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Speaker 1: be perfect when we know that none of us are perfect? Right?

431
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: So that is the question. And so with that, I

432
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Speaker 1: feel that me personally, I was taught a lot of

433
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Speaker 1: amazing things, as you said, and I was also taught

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Speaker 1: a a lot of fear based thinking as you As

435
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: you were adding it, a lot of a lot of

436
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: fear based thinking, a lot of guilts, a lot of shaming,

437
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: and I feel like more of the energy was on

438
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: that vibration versus the you know, treat others how you

439
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: should be treated. Um, listen to Spirit. And what I

440
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: learned and what helped me on my journey to grow

441
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: on the way I have is that I was through

442
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: this injury, I was guided to Spirit in a very

443
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Speaker 1: profound and practical way, and I developed a daily practice.

444
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: And so what I would like to share it to

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Speaker 1: everyone listening. No matter what religion you believe in, or

446
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Speaker 1: whether you believe in any religion or not, or spirituality

447
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: or whatever you wanna call it, I do think it's

448
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: important to have a daily practice or ritual and connection

449
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: to spirit or whatever it is that you believe in

450
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: that is healthy for you and others in the world.

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00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: And so what I can only speak for my own experience,

452
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: it is blessed my life, and I've seen the lives

453
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: of people that is blessed when they're able to separate

454
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: from specifically like judgment and guilt and shame and focus

455
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: more on a spiritual connection. Yeah, so beautifully said, what

456
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Speaker 1: what do you think your practice in yoga in what

457
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: ways did that close in your relationship with Creator with source? Uh,

458
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: that's such a good question and it's it's it's devotional,

459
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: it's the daily devotion, it's a daily practice, it's the

460
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: daily sad night. It's like I feel, when you connect

461
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Speaker 1: with spirit, you are divinely aligned. When you're divinely aligned,

462
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: you can live your true purpose. There are many distractions, right,

463
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: there are many things out there that can you know,

464
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: you see other people, you might compare to other people,

465
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: you might judge yourself based on other people, and then

466
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: you start getting into this like fear modality. And I'm

467
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: also a student of the Course of Miracles, and so

468
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: the reason I like the Course of Miracles because it

469
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: really broke broke down for me fear and love and

470
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: like those emotions of um that get you know, and

471
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Speaker 1: I do believe also fear is just a sign that

472
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm moving away from love. So in that sense, fear

473
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: is also love and love is all their ears. I

474
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: know that's like a deep blue but that's what I believe. UM.

475
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: And so when I get this son, and oh you're

476
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: in fear, you're in judstment, you're moving away the breath,

477
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: my spiritual practice brings me back. So I actually value

478
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: all of those emotions, my sadness, my anger, my grief,

479
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: my all of that, and I'm like, thank you, thank

480
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: you for letting me know that I'm I'm tracking this

481
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: way and my daily spiritual practice brings me back. So

482
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: yoga gave me a daily connection through the breath to

483
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: my spiritual truth and That's how I've been living since

484
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I found it. Oh my gosh, that is so beautiful.

485
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I hope everyone listening this is just, um, something that

486
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: really enlivens you to deep, to dig really deep into

487
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: your spiritual practice and maybe practice evolving it. You know,

488
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: what can you add on? What can you take off? How?

489
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Speaker 1: How can you feel more nourished by the time that

490
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you spend with God? You know, how can you feel

491
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: more nourished for yourself by the time you spend on

492
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: yourself and your body? Hold that thought, we are coming

493
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: right back. So as a as a master in yoga,

494
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm someone that's just started reconnecting to the practice. Um,

495
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: I've been meditating for a really really long time. Pilates,

496
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, interestingly not very very different from yoga, but

497
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: it's very connected to breath, and it's really connected to

498
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: noticing like the small pieces of your body, if that

499
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: make sense, Like you know, like if you do pilates,

500
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: you're sore in places you didn't even know existed or

501
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: that like you could be sore. So for me that

502
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: was such a beautiful way to get to know my

503
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: body because I was doing all that observing and that

504
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: noticing and and what is that feeling? What is the

505
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: response my body is having to this um But I'm

506
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: now really coming into exploring and adding like a very

507
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: vibrant yoga routine as part of my spiritual practice. So

508
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: any tips, no, I need help, No, but you know

509
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: what specifically, like, what do you think some of the

510
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: challenges in this space of yoga are and is there

511
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: any way to get around them? You know, like sometimes

512
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: I think when you look at yoga, some of the

513
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: postures are like very intense and intimidating some of them,

514
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: and then you think it might take me five years

515
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do this. So if you could

516
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: offer any insight on how to have a gentleness of

517
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: self and and kind of an approach of lightness to

518
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: beginning to practice like this absolutely, First of all, do

519
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: not focus on the poses. And I know that's hard.

520
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to like what do you mean

521
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: by that? How do I not? I know I know,

522
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it back to my

523
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: first my first teacher, and I'm trying to do I

524
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: remember trying to do a headstand and I felt like,

525
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I feel like my brain is gonna ooze out of

526
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: the top of my head. It's not for me. I'm

527
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: tender headed. I can't. I can't do this like it's

528
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: not you know. And I'm like, oh when I when

529
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: I try to get into that lotus pose and it

530
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: hurts my ankles. This is painful. This is not blissful.

531
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling where you all are feeling. I'm so

532
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and the teacher told me just breathe because at the

533
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is about what we spoke

534
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: about earlier. It is just about connecting with the breath,

535
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: the reason. And I just to give people some background

536
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: on my my journey in wellness, I actually was a

537
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: personal trainer. First, I was a personal trainer. I love

538
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: up in people get healthy, live a healthy and active lifestyle.

539
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: And then um, one of my clients that I love

540
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: to talk to, you don't even want to train, and

541
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: I realized I had a passion for hearing people's story

542
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: and helping them find their own solutions. I became a

543
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: life coach and then I became a yoga instructor when

544
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: I realized and the reason I love yoga, I also

545
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: um practice pilates as well. But the reason that I

546
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: chose yoga to get certified and now offer people to

547
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: become certified and yoga through my Yoga Teacher Training School

548
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: is because I feel like it encompasses all because I

549
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: take I do yoga hit if I wanna, you know,

550
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: intense workout. I do um Ya yoga when I just

551
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: want to slow down and breathe into my muscles and

552
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: and loosen the tension in my mind and my body. Um,

553
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: and there's so much room. But again, it's not about

554
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: the poses. It is about the practice. And when you

555
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: focus on the practice, the next thing you know, you're like,

556
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: oh my leg just went by my head and I'm

557
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: just okay. But it does happen over time. But again,

558
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to, like champion,

559
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: the fact that of getting poses is the thing, but

560
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: the beauty when you do it focusing on the breath right,

561
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: and you do it focusing on on the journey. The

562
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: reason people are in these poses because they've loosened, the

563
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: tenseness and the stagnation in their muscles and in their body.

564
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: What happens is yet you increase the blood flow, you

565
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: increase flexibility, and it takes a long time to get there.

566
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Anything that is worth something is like it takes effort.

567
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Any beautiful thing that's created and including birth, including a child,

568
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: it takes a process. And so if you commit to

569
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: this process, this practice, not only will you have this

570
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: peace of mind, this divine connection to spirit, but your

571
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: muscles loosen up. Because I think you were talking about

572
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: another part podcast, the issues and your tissues. It causes tightness,

573
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: it causes inflammaia. When you do these yoga posts, it

574
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: loosens up. And guess what, then you can get in

575
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: some of these twists, and you can get in some

576
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: of these turns. But it's not just about the twist

577
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: and turn. It's the fact that when you twist and turn,

578
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: you're improving your digestion, you are creating more fluidity in

579
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: your body, and you're moving out some of the inflammation

580
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: caused by toxic emotion, pain, physical injury, um physical injury,

581
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: emotional injury, mental injury. And that's what's happening. So again,

582
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: that's why say don't focus on the poses, because the

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00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: poses are a result of your continued practice and dedication.

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00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, that was such a powerful explanation that

585
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: helped me a lot. So I know, people listening, I

586
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: hope y'all start this yoga journey with me too, you know,

587
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: speaking about the issues being in the tissues are their

588
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: specific spaces in our body where we are really kind

589
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: of storing grief or storing emotions. And as part of

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00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, using yoga specifically for the spirit virtual healing

591
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: UM and really for the ancestral healing, like being able

592
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: to take up full space in your own body. How

593
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: how do we begin to notice that in our practice

594
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: and how do we free that? That's a really good question,

595
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 1: and not being a scientist in the area, I will

596
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: say energetically. I follow Louise Hay and her teachings UM

597
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: You Can Heal Your Life, and it talks about different

598
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: emotions and where they are stored. And I definitely highly

599
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: suggest that book if someone is interested in knowing, like

600
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm feeling this, you know what, why why am I

601
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: feeling this pain in my hip? And and it will

602
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: show you, oh that that's regarding remorse for something, you know,

603
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: And so that's actually what I use is almost a

604
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: reference book to understand, Um, if I gotta ache in

605
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: my back or if I'm getting this unexplained, you know, toothache,

606
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: what is it? You know, it could be um connected emotionally,

607
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: so I would say that, But I will also say

608
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: when you think about you know, different issues, is almost

609
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: like wait, you know, some people sort away in their stomach,

610
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: some people in the backside, some people in the leg.

611
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: So it's actually we can actually store different emotions in

612
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: different places in our body. I believe that, and I

613
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: also believe there is a correlation energetically, Um, I'm more

614
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: so work with the chakra system and our spiritual energy centers.

615
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said at the beginning, like

616
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: we want to feel safe as as black women, as

617
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: women of color, we want to feel safe. So it's

618
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: an important for us to ground down, to know who

619
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: we are, to connect spiritually so we feel we feel safe. Um,

620
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: to have a support system around us, and then you know,

621
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: we go to the sake of the second chakra. It's

622
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: important for us to express, to be able to speak,

623
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Speaker 1: to be able to dance, be able to move, and

624
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: so I kind of work with that energy system and

625
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I focus on on healing and alignment and increasing that energy,

626
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: and then when it comes to releasing trauma, I focus

627
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: on breath work to those specific areas is wherever you're

628
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: feeling it um and then only if I'm life coaching

629
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: with someone will I go deeper into really unpacking Okay,

630
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: what is this issue bringing up? But in general, that's

631
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: kind of how I move through. Like I teach big groups,

632
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: so I'm more so focused on because that can really

633
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: clear out a lot of the energy and all those

634
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: little places, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I love that. That.

635
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, one of the most powerful tools.

636
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been speaking to this the whole show,

637
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: but really in the breath and then really allowing that

638
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: embodiment to take place in our bodies. Because I think

639
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: so many of us on this healing journey, it's really

640
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: easy to get stuck in the heavy space, to get

641
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: stuck in like the cerebral understanding of where the trauma is,

642
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of people just stop there

643
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Speaker 1: and say like, oh, yeah, I'm this way because this

644
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: happened to me and when I was a kid, and

645
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: then this and so yeah, I'm clear. I I know

646
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: why I am the way that I am, you know,

647
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: And it's like all right, cool. The cognitive side, like

648
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: you have language for what you have experience, like you

649
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: have introspection, but it has to get brought down and

650
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: like through yoga practice, through breathwork, it really gives your

651
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: body the opportunity to get in on that healing so

652
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: that the wholeness occurs, like you're sending that breath and

653
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: that energy to your cells, and from an energetic standpoint,

654
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's loosening and freeing the toxins and the trauma,

655
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: and the trauma gets in all the fibers and all

656
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: the spaces um. Sometimes people can find even that have

657
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: had chronic pain in one area their whole lives, the

658
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: second they heal the memory connected to it, even if

659
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: the trauma had nothing to do with the injury. But

660
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: the second you begin to clear energetically emotionally for yourself,

661
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: you'll notice pain running from your body, like leaving it

662
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: freely and quickly getting out of there. Absolutely. And so

663
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: the way it works with the chakra system is like

664
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: let's say we we focus on the throat chakra. For me,

665
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: if I don't speak my truth. If I'm if I'm

666
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: supposed to say something, and if I don't speak my truth,

667
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: I will go hoarse, like I won't gonna be able

668
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: to talk, and like you know, people like what's wrong

669
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: with you? And then once I express myself, because usually

670
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: if I don't express myself, it's out of fear of

671
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: expressing myself, I'm gonna you know, someone's gonna be upset

672
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: or it's gonna cause some type of conflict, you know.

673
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: And this is like probably like you know, ten years

674
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: ago when I was working on self expression and then

675
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: once I realized, like, no, you just have to tell

676
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: your truths here your truth no matter what. But I

677
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: would notice how I would just sent you up in

678
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: that way and then once I released it. So it

679
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: is energetic and a lot of pain in our body

680
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: that we are if we feel like we don't know,

681
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: even gaining weight, you know, some people say, oh they're sad,

682
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: so they gained a lot of weight. Well what is

683
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: that about. That's about protection, that's about security. So if

684
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: you're an abusive relationship, it's not just like I'm hungry,

685
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: so I'm eating a lot. That is your body's way

686
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: of protecting and if your body is is protecting in

687
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: this way, and it's like, oh, well, I'm just going

688
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: to you know, um, go lose weight. I just need

689
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: to lose weight, not addressing the problem or the emotional

690
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: you know thing that that is trigger to make you

691
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: gain in first. Even when you lose that weight, you

692
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: still might find and do something else like oh now

693
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm drinking. Why because you didn't provide a solution for

694
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: the problem. You just found You just found out how

695
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: to lose weight. But still that root cause, that that

696
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: root pain is still there. And that's why again I

697
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: love yoga because I can tell someone okay, for mental clarity,

698
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: door four fold. Get blood flow to your head and

699
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna increase the energy the bluff flow to your head.

700
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: But if I give you a practice, that's not only

701
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna give you mental clarity, but you're also going to

702
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: be dealing with you know, grief that can sometimes to

703
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: be in the hips, but it can also being around

704
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: the heart. So hip openers and heart openers specifically, just

705
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: to go back to your question around grief, you know,

706
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: but some people might be carrying it in their shoulders.

707
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: So when you develop a practice, you're actually hitting many

708
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: different areas every single day. It's literally like taking a shower,

709
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: but it's a spiritual shower. It's like you're saying, I'm

710
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: gonna spiritually breathe into every part of my body from

711
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: head to toe so I can spiritually cleanse myself and

712
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: get my energy on point. And we want, if we're

713
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: trying to do all this work in the world, we

714
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're spiritually clean so that

715
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: we can help others. But if we got all this

716
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: baggage from other people, doesn't matter if we're helping them

717
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: or not. It's still within us and we don't take

718
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: that shower. Then what happens if someone's in the mud

719
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: and you reach out your hand to help them, tell

720
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: me your hand is not gonna be muddy. If they're

721
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: full of mud. You want to pretend like, because you're

722
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: a strong person, that you don't got mud on you.

723
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: So you just kind of wipe it off, and because

724
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: no one can see it you, you feel like it's gone.

725
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: It's like I should stick in their head and they say, no,

726
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: it's still there. It's on you. You have to take

727
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: your spiritual shower, and that's why practice is so important.

728
00:42:52,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Come on, you better teach so perfectly set yes, yes, yes, yes,

729
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if you notice this for yourself,

730
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: but it sounds like you do. Um. It is like

731
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: turning everything into that ritualized experience, like you said spiritual shower.

732
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: And I think about the fact that every shower I take,

733
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I use as an opportunity to practice my spirituality, to

734
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: to to stand in my mastery and clear energy and

735
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: even down to like if I'm taking a shower, I'm

736
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: visualizing that as the water flows down my body, So

737
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: is any negative or stagnant energy, So is any grief,

738
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: So is any anything that's been trapped in visualizing it

739
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: going down the drain. So it's like making everything that

740
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: opportunity that you just so beautifully expressed to heal us,

741
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to heal our bodies, to free us, like there's always

742
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: a deeper place to go, there is always more that

743
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: can be released. And it's like when we turn that

744
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: daily practice is to show up for us, like having

745
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: that robust daily practice that can include the yoga, the meditation,

746
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: maybe the journal and the prayer, but then also every

747
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: single moment of the day is an opportunity to deepen,

748
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 1: to become more to release in every single thing we do.

749
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely everything is sacred if we if we create this

750
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: sacred space, this conversation is sacred. My meal, my breakfast

751
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: was sacred, my everything, And and we have the opportunity

752
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: of people like, oh that's that's a bit much. Absolutely,

753
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: But also we go around, um just frustrated about so

754
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: many things all day long, So we can choose sacred

755
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: time just as much as we choose those other times

756
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: with no judgment on either. But it's like, if we

757
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: can see if we can normalize being angry all the time,

758
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: then we can normalize being sacred all the time. Or

759
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: we can just find a healthy balance, you know, everything

760
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: is sacred. At the top of the show, I right

761
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: before I welcomed you on to actually told a story

762
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: about how this morning I made breakfast tacos sacred for

763
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: me and it was a really delicious, nourishing, fulfilling experience.

764
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: Breakfast wins. I had a breakfast burrito. Did you when

765
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I tell you? It brought me so much joy this

766
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: morning making my little taco And I was like, oh,

767
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: and I like even before I took the bite, I

768
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: was like, I am so grateful for this moment I

769
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: feel you. I have potatoes, and I don't eat potatoes

770
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: all the time, and I had these yummy red potatoes

771
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I haven't felt this full

772
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: in a long time. I appreciate these potatoes. And I'm

773
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: literally thinking the potatoes because I'm like, well, I've been

774
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: missing out on potatoes. I mean, I eat French fries,

775
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: but not like, you know, the actual like potatoes of

776
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: the skin. Yes see. And so everyone, this is what

777
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: we mean. You know, when we talk about how really

778
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: effortless the healing can be and how joyful the healing

779
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: can be, it is not the grand stuff. It is

780
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: not know, the shopping spree that made you feel better

781
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: for that instant. It is not the you know, it

782
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be these big ground, grand gestures and

783
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: these comparative accomplishments. It's really like, you know you are healed.

784
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: You know you have remembrance of your wholeness when there

785
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: is joy in the potato, when there's joy in the taco,

786
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: when there is gratitude in all of the moments that

787
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: we thought we had to speed through because they were

788
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: just things for like our maintenance or to just keep going,

789
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, and when we can sink and anchor into

790
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: those moments oh my god, nothing. And also you know

791
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: there's joy in the pain. I mean, because yesterday I

792
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: cried so many tears. Um. I I was with my

793
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: therapist because I'm really really champing therapy, especially for black

794
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: women and women of color right now, and she was like,

795
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how you got all through all the

796
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: things you've that. I think. I think it's just as

797
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: a humor because that one minute, I'm letting it out.

798
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: And there's there's something sacred about being able to cry.

799
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: I remember I went for two years without crying because

800
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: I felt like I had to be strong and I

801
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: had to get through it and I had to, you know,

802
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: be be this stronger than strong superwoman. And I had

803
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: to learn to allow myself to cry. And now I say,

804
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: tears are pain leaving the body. Um, and even having breakfast.

805
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: I cried yesterday and having breakfast, I had a friend

806
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: that cried and I was like, girl, yeah, she was like,

807
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So I don't ever apologize for your tears.

808
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: Cry let it out and I just tell space. And

809
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: and there's something sacred about being it because we don't

810
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: want to keep those emotions in you want to cry

811
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: in your yoga practice, cry at breakfast, cry with your therapist,

812
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: then laugh. I mean, I just you know, and it's

813
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: it's all, it's all part of the healing process. It's

814
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: all part of being human. And I feel like sometimes

815
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: we we kind of when we do. And it's good

816
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: to champion those good times. But I want to start

817
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: champion the pain. Oh you had some anger, you have

818
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: some rage? Yeah, how did it feel to let that out?

819
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: Where did it come from? What what triggered that? And

820
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: then we really dive down those like good good like yeah,

821
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: let's talk about the instead of shaming um people for

822
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: that that that the tears and the pain and the

823
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: anger and the rage, Like I tell people how did

824
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: that feel now? And then go down to like, Okay,

825
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: where is it coming from. It's just like we were

826
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: talking about before about like, you know, really understanding the

827
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: root cause and not just trying to stuff the symptoms,

828
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: because the symptoms fear is our best friends. Sadness, anger,

829
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: those are our friends, and we have to tell them,

830
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: thank you, what do you trying to tell me? We

831
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: have to talk to that fear, talk to that sadness,

832
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: talk to those tears and say what are you showing me?

833
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: Where am I hurting? And so I also want to

834
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: champion the pain. Thank you for speaking to that. You know,

835
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: for me, shadow work has been the greatest teacher. And

836
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: the way that I do wellness is in the shadows,

837
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: you know. I And it might I don't know. I

838
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: don't know if maybe it feels depressing. It doesn't feel

839
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: depressing to me. But like you know, the majority of

840
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: my captions on Instagram or the way that I share,

841
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: it's really about how can you utilize your pain and

842
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: allow joy to heal you, you know, And that's the

843
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: piece that people don't talk about enough. This journey is

844
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: one like the poet room, he says, you know, where

845
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: allow your darkness to be your candle, you know, allow

846
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: that dark place to be the light in your life

847
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: that guides you forward into something else you can pass

848
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: through it. I love that you spoke to that um

849
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: and crying, and I think, especially you know, as black women,

850
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: that is the piece that I think was always off

851
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: limits generationally ancestry, that's the piece always off limits. And

852
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: so when we start to explore why is that, well,

853
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: why is that When it comes down to the root

854
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Speaker 1: like the fundamental original seed. It really goes back to

855
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: the plantation. System of life is profoundly painful physically and

856
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: in every way, and there is no way to get

857
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: away from it. And so you don't cry because no

858
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: one cares and no one will help you, and it's

859
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: not going to change. So that is the first time

860
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: we taught ourselves to not give ourselves a dignity of

861
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: our process and to not have emotions. It's not because

862
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: we don't have them. It's not because we don't wish

863
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: to express them, but it's because systems in place robbed

864
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: us of that ability, and we adapted. But there is

865
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Speaker 1: moment and time, in this moment in time to be

866
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: able to to be radically different, you know, like part

867
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: of changing this world, part of being able to destroy

868
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: these systems, also means gifting ourselves with access to emotion

869
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: in a way we never have before, in a way

870
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: that we weren't taught. And so we're figuring it out,

871
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, like tears that should be a part of

872
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: your spiritual routine. There is no shame in it. You

873
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: are releasing your body needs to release. Let it. I

874
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: cried for four hours, uh A couple of months ago

875
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I had like this. I hadn't cried in a while.

876
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: I cry a lot of joy tears, Like I probably

877
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: get teary eyed every every time I feel like I'm

878
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: in purpose and on purpose. My eyes missed up. Not

879
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: a full boohoo, but like I feel it in my

880
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: heart and then, um, you know, I I probably tear

881
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: up once a day in gratitude. I've been kind of

882
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: in awe of God um so so much during this pandemic.

883
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: But I had a few months ago, Um, I had

884
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of reached my breaking point with the pandemic, and

885
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: I was just tired. I was so tired and so

886
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: busy and exhausted, and so many things were happening. And

887
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: I remember I was putting my son to bed and

888
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: I felt it, you know, that feeling where you know

889
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: you just really want to let go. And I said, oh,

890
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: she needs to cry. I was like, all right, dev

891
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: let's get the baby. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna take

892
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: you back to your room and I'm gonna give you

893
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: that opportunity. So I was like, all right, let's just

894
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: get through it and gift yourself, give your gift yourself

895
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: some luxurious tears today. And I went into my room

896
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: and I started crying and I just sat there. I

897
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: put on some some frequency music. I just sat there

898
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: and I cried, And after an hour, I was like,

899
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: are you dune girl? I was like, no, she ain't done. Okay,

900
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: let's go, and I just let myself cry until I stopped.

901
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: But you know what, when I finished, I felt so pure,

902
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I felt so relieved. I had a spaciousness in my spirit.

903
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I had an expansiveness in my heart. And then I

904
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: kept going and I had a beautiful night's sleep and

905
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: I had a great day the next day. But I

906
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: say that to say, you know, they these are mechanisms

907
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: of how we're meant to operate. Just like you have

908
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: to get food out of your system through your digestive track,

909
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: we need to get grief, we need to get fear,

910
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: we need to get shame out of our system. With tears. Yeah,

911
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: it's it's so important, and especially as strong ones, it's

912
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: like if the tears can't come up, they'll sneak in

913
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: even through joy. Like you said, it's like, okay, we're

914
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to get out through her joy because you

915
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: just refused to me for our crying session that we

916
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: need so we'll just come about any time to type away.

917
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: But it is so important and for people who have

918
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Speaker 1: a hard time crying, UM, I encourage them to journal.

919
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: And when they journal, journal about both sides of duality.

920
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about duality and my training and

921
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: the fact that for every good thing that you write down,

922
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: also write down some things that are not so great.

923
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: So some people it's on both sides. Some people always

924
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: talk about the negative and no positive, and some people

925
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: all the ways talk about the positive and no negative.

926
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: So both on both sides. I say, Okay, if you're

927
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: always a positive person, talk about some things that not

928
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: so positive, talk about some things you would like to

929
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: see change in your life and the people you interact

930
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: with and in the world. If you're in person that's

931
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: always on the news and literally every hour of the

932
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: days spent there, talk about some things that are going

933
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: right in your life, in your circle and in in

934
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: the world. So I believe. What I believe is that

935
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: just like night and day, we are we are. We

936
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: we have this duality that we have to respect. It

937
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: is it is like living in harmony with nature, and

938
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: we sometimes we choose to be on the dark, you know,

939
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: just you know, living in the dark side, which is

940
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: that's a choice. It's just a choice, no right or wrong,

941
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: that's a choice. And then sometimes we live in the

942
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: light and on both sides. I feel like it's important

943
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: to see and acknowledge the other side, no matter you

944
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: can decide. You know, some people are night people, some

945
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: people are day people. Your experience, you know, wherever you

946
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: decide to to rest and reside, that's going to create

947
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: your reality. But knowing and being aware of the darkness,

948
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: the shadow, the fear, like that's important, and also being

949
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: able to notice that joy, happy as success, that's all

950
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: your birthright to, it's all available. Dark is available at

951
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: all times, available at all time you choose, and sometimes

952
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: you need to use the dark and the light to

953
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: move through your experience as a human being. And so

954
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: I really champion really being connected to both and we

955
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: and that's where it goes back to the breath. The

956
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: way I got here is through spirits showing me, not

957
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: just what people were telling me. And so if I

958
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: never allowed myself to connect with spirit, I would have

959
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: went down a path of like, Okay, whatever people tell me.

960
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: But when I'm able to feel, I'm like, like, why

961
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: did it feel so good when I cried why did

962
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: it feel so good when I wrote down how I feel? So?

963
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: When you allow duality to happen in your life without

964
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: judging it, but just seeing it, acknowledging it, you're able

965
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: to align again with spirit, with your truth. I love it. Yes, yes,

966
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: all of it. Let me open my menu? What is

967
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: available today? What do I want to order today? Yes?

968
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: And just journaling, like I highly highly suggest journaling. And

969
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: it could be if you don't have a journal, it

970
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: could be on your phone voice not now you're feeling, yeah,

971
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: getting them out, expressing them in some way, and your

972
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: dark feelings just as much as a life feelings. So

973
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, I do the gratitude list and that's great,

974
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: but I also do these are some places I can grow,

975
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I have a petter where I put

976
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: these are my growth opportunities, you know, because I don't

977
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: want to just be like, oh, I'm the best thing

978
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: to slicepread. You know, you get on get loved up tip. Okay,

979
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you about like the anxiety attack I

980
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: had two weeks ago. Let me tell you about the

981
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: stress that comes with trying to maintain a platform or

982
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: trying to have a team of over fifteen people. Let

983
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: me tell you about some of that stress, and I

984
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: unlike you, don't post about enough. I talk about it

985
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: within my circles and my group. But because the whole

986
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: social media has been a very interesting and journey for me,

987
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: like I'm learning how to express it, but I think

988
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: I still have layers of fear of experiencing attack through

989
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: social media, and as a sensitive soul that I'm still

990
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: dealing with layers of pain when it comes to social media.

991
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: So I don't feel safe fully expressing the things that

992
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: I can express just talking to someone on a podcast

993
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: or just talking like in my at my yoga retreats

994
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: or my yoga teacher trainings. But I'm doing it more

995
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: now than I did before. But you know, this sacred

996
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: space that I started just to hold myself accountable, then

997
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: turned into a business, then turned into I'm influence, and

998
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: then turned in I was like quite so it had

999
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: these things happen and people don't really see because people

1000
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: joined at different times and they don't necessarily see the

1001
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: whole journey. But it's definitely been very deep for me.

1002
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: But I do think being able to show the light

1003
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: and the dark is important so powerful. Thank you for

1004
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: sharing that so so powerful, Koya, I have loved having

1005
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: you on. This show is up already. I was just

1006
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: gonna start it. I know. I'm like, this has been

1007
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: we gotta kick it. We're gonna meet up at the beach. Yeah,

1008
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: we have to have way more conversations like this. You

1009
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: are just um, You're powerful, You're amazing. I'm grateful you exist,

1010
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: and I thank you for sharing all of yourself, all

1011
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: of yourself with everyone and inspiring new methods of healing,

1012
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: new ways of connecting to God. It gives such a

1013
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: beautiful permission to everyone that gazes on you. Thank you

1014
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for so much for having me

1015
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: on your podcast. Thank you for dropping them them so

1016
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: often and just giving all of yourself and creating a

1017
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: safe container for us to to breathe. I received. Thank you.

1018
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Speaker 1: Tell everybody your instagram is Koya Web. Tell everybody um

1019
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: how they can find you and connect this beautiful work.

1020
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Thank you. You can find me at kya web dot

1021
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: com or my company get loved Up dot com. And

1022
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Speaker 1: I also have a book let, Your Fears Make You

1023
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Fears how to turn common obstacles into seeds for growth.

1024
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Speaker 1: And that's just like a tool that I share to

1025
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: help share some of the tools that have helped me

1026
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: navigate life. Amazing, Coya, thank you so much, thank you,

1027
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Hey find me on social

1028
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: Let's connect at Debbie Brown. That's Twitter and Instagram, or

1029
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: go to my website Debbie Brown dot com. And if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the show on Apple Podcasts, please please

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