WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ Too Short | (Ep. 9) 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:03.280 Yeah, what's something, y'all? What's going on? 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:09.239 Brother Drinks Radio? He's a legendary Queen's rapper. Here is 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:10.000 your boy in Oi. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.360 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up is dj 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.040 E f N? 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.560 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:17.880 players in music. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.360 And sports, you know what I mean, the most professional 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.320 unprofessional podcast. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.079 This is Drinks Day. Every day is New Year's Eve. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:30.280 That's hey hands sangree, I hope you savvy? This is 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:31.160 your boy in Oi? 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.000 What Up? Is dj E f N? 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.480 And this is the Drink Chance motherfucking podcast? 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:41.080 Right now you're in the. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.479 Airhorner, Oh ship, my bad. I ain't gonna write you 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.800 better with the hair or than me. No, that's Ray, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.320 It's right, It's right, Ah, not right now. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.120 We have the mother. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.840 We have a super dupa legend. I want to say 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.680 he's the first Oakland rapper. I want to say he's 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.480 the first person because because when I when when I 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.960 heard out, I found out that he was actually from 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.840 South Central first, but we're going to get into that later. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.240 But the first person, he's the guy who single handedly 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:15.800 made be. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.760 What's my favorite word? I don't know why. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.319 Every time I say, bitch, I grabbed my collar. I 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.560 don't know why like that. This is how much it is. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.760 The hyphee movement, everything derived from this guy. He's the 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.640 first himself. He's on the East Coast, especially in New York. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.640 He's the first person that we saluted as the first 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:43.160 pimp and rat, the first person that made people bow down, 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.080 the first person that made bitch cool. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.120 Actually, and he's. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.640 A motherfucking legend. And every promoter I ever speak to, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.560 I ever talk to, they say Short is the easiest 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.400 person to work with because he's just coming in there. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:58.880 He's just pimp in. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:04.680 Let's make annoys get too short. Too Short. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.000 First off, let me just thank you man for being 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.919 a part of this man, you know what I mean. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.400 We only interview on legends, that's what we're doing. And 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.960 too Short, you was the first person to make bitch famous. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.079 How did that happen? 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.120 Well, you know, like you mentioned a minute ago, I 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.919 did really grow up in the South central l that makes. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.720 A noise from south central. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.400 So you know, I got a good, colorful childhood. I've 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.280 seen it all, you know. So you was gang banging 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.000 and little nigga except my older brother was banging. But 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.440 you know, you never keep you real close to it. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:39.560 So I'm in there. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:40.440 You know, all my cousins. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.160 We live all over the city, you know, the hood 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.640 and sh We're real colorful, you know, upbringing just seeing 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.640 what was going on in the city like La in 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.600 the early mid seventies, late seventies, and I moved to 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:52.440 Oakland right. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.440 After ninth grade. How old was you? I was, I 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:56.000 was fourteen. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.400 And then you would you would think of California, California 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.640 and just just up the street. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.960 But it's just like it's a totally different. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.080 Probably like a kid from New York moving upstate or 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:05.480 something like. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.040 The difference all moving like Philly or something like. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.880 So I get to the Bay, it's a whole different 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.880 worlds and it's like it's it's like even more colorful 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.280 and more out just out there in front of you 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.280 where you know you. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.240 It just got a little more personal for me. I'm 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:21.520 coming up. 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:22.680 I'm coming to you left. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.960 You left South Central at fourteen, so you like almost 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.440 almost a grown man. And then now you come to 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.720 the Pampion because that's this is the. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.040 LA is like real territorial La. At that time. It's like, 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.960 you know, even to this day, it's like from in 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.880 the inner city. It's like from neighborhood to neighborhood, the 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.400 faces that you know, who's running the ship and where 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.320 you're supposed to be not supposed to be you hit 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.880 the wrong block. Now whe're from in La was that 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.400 I'm an eightieth enormous. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.240 I know, Oh my god, normally the riots and. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.880 Then my first cousins on eighty fourth and Hoover, So 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.640 just that's just that's the crypt that's crip crip. But 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.680 that's not very fucking far away. But it was like 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.200 it was like two different to travel that there to there. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.480 You got to know your mother fucking route because they're 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:09.240 gonna take your bike. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.200 They're gonna take something if you hit the wrong black. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.040 So I get to Oakland and it's not it's not 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.480 really about little packs of gangs, and it's not about 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.599 blue or red. It's not about the neighborhood so much. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.320 It was just like who's getting money, who's who's However, so. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.760 Now how far in Oakland was Fillmore Street because that's 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.480 the that's the first thing I heard about Oakland Filmore. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:32.880 Street, Fillmore on in West Oakland. Uh is that is 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:33.320 that when I. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.279 Filbert is in West uh. Fillmore Is is a neighborhood 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:37.920 in San Francisco. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.640 Oh okay, okay, okay, freak that down for yeah. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.320 The Fillmore iss very historical neighborhood too. Oakland has a 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.640 lot of history. You know, you got different parts of 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.760 the Bay. The Bay. You look at the Bay like 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.400 you look at the fire boroughs in New York. It's 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.240 different sizes of the Bay. East forty of them over 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.920 there from Vallet, Whole Blet. It's a little town called 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.560 East Paula Alto. They got a lot of you know, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.320 a lot of backbone and some you know, San Francisco 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.679 got a couple of little neighborhoods over there, Hunter's Point 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.640 in philm and sunny Dale and they you know, they 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.520 real reptable neighborhoods. But you know, I'm from East Oakland. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.520 I got mines from the East side. So I show 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.040 up and I'm just being a sponge man. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:11.680 It's a new place. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.160 I'm looking around, you know. I go to Freemont High 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.200 School and Ship and it's like I go to school 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.080 and it's a nigga named Frank the Bank who's pimping. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.000 He's a twelfth grader pimping. Hold on, let's make some 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:22.440 noise for. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.240 He's pimping and one of his holes, Yeah, one of 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.440 his holes go to the school too. Okay, I'm in 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.960 this city now, I'm like, whoa. So it's like this 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.120 nigga got another hole come show up after school every 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.920 day and picking him in up him and the young 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.040 ho up and they go to work. So it's like 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.640 it was that type of environment. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:42.760 Man. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.599 You gotta get cats riding around in like limousines. Niggas 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.360 driving the limousine. If he rolled it back one of 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.560 that it's like five holes back there and then his 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.080 hose and it's not the driver. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.440 And that's the first time you're coming from South Central 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.400 and that's the first time you see pimping. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.800 And then at the same time, it's like Oakland was 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.560 a lot different. Man. It was like niggas was doing 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.320 like car bombs and ship. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:04.440 Damn, And. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.560 What do you mean by car bombs. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.040 Niggas was blowing each other's cars up while they was 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.880 at war. They chopped your body up and put you 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:16.720 in the plastic bag on the side of it. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.120 Was going down. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.279 They was doing mafia ship seventies, early ages like Felix Mitch. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.440 You ever heard of Felix Mitchell heard it. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.320 But this is not the Spanish gangs right now, this before. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.680 This black dudes, Oh, this is the mob. They called 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.640 him something mob too, but it was just it was 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 different than the gang. The Blue and Red. People don't 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.839 know that. On the West coast to this day, you 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:45.920 got the l A Cats. They went to San Diego, Uh, Sacramento, Denver. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.280 Every every city. He wanted to pop my call every 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:49.920 time you say. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:57.680 Las Vegas, Phoenix, Arizona. They went to all these cities, Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.720 and they converted motherfuckers into being crypts. So it's all 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.880 up and down the West. You never found that shit 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.880 in the Bay. The Bay was like, we don't get it, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.920 we don't want it. And you know, even though. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:12.160 Because even the Spanish gangs they might like fly or color, but. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.560 It was doing the North and South shit and it 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.960 ain't the same science as crips and bloods is La 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.280 like a lot of cities are like you got Chicago 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.480 niggas that go around away for Chicago and Confnt niggas 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.640 and the vice lords and gds and everything. You know, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.720 it just didn't take to the Bay Blue and Red 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.000 and all that shit. So I'm just taking this shit 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.240 in as this new cat in the city. And I 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.760 started rapping, just fucking around on the mic. All my 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.480 early raps, like nineteen eighty eighty one, my shit was 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.960 like kind of like whatever whatever I was getting from, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.440 like sugar Hill Records or something, just that vibe about, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.640 you know, the party and shit and all that shit. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.320 So I'm rapping in different people's instrumentals. And the one 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.240 thing that changed everything for me was when I first 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.160 heard the message and I sat there, I'm walking down 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.720 the street. I remember I had my radio and all 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.440 I take me. But I'm listening to this record too. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.720 I been bumping hip hop for about three years at 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.640 the time, and I'm listening to this record, and I 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.200 could clear his day picture New York City because the 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.840 nigga was described in New York at that time. Never okay, continue, 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.520 so I can see New York. We wasn't doing videos 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.520 and shit back then. You just listen to the music. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.640 So the niggas giving me New York, and I just 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.760 had the idea of a lifetime. I have to give 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.760 these niggas Oakland. So so my upbringing in La and 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.640 then moving to Oakland and taking it in like a 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.240 like a canvas or something like, you know, and absorbing it. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.320 You know, something that I didn't receive from birth. I 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.320 just came into it. I started writing about it. It was 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.840 it became like my music the city of Oakland. And 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.680 even later in life, I could get stuck in the 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.560 studio and just think of some crazy shit I seen 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.520 in Oakland, some shit I heard in Oakland, some shit 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.840 I think about Oakland and just start writing, and shit 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:48.880 just made me write songs. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.640 So what's the name of their first album again out. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.760 Don't Stop Rapping? And I named it that for a 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:54.640 reason and. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 You didn't stop rapping stop five? 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.880 So so sure, yes's crazy. That is crazy. So and 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.480 what year did that drop? Nineteen eighty five? 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.280 Nineteen eighty five. I was born in nineteen seventy seven, 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.199 so you know, So if I don't, if I know that, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.000 you know, I'm a big fan. I've always been a big. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.920 Fan of you. You was raping job for a long time. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.000 Come on, let's salute to that rape job on those 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.040 right fuck job. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:30.280 You know you saw that Planet Rock documentary. Yeah, the 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.920 relationship between crack, cocaine and hip hop. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.520 That's not the on VH one. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.360 It was either VAGE one or BC. I think it's 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.480 one planet talking about one throughout the history of hip 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.320 hop and how the cocaine and the crackler. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:45.960 I'm from that ship. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:51.720 Because the way that people say and Freeway Wicked Ross 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:52.880 is they say that. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.040 Crack cocaine invented in Oakland. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.360 It was LA but then it came they used cities 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.880 like Oakland to kind of like the distributed. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:02.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.520 So how was that like seeing the city coming from 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.000 South Central going to Oakland and then you seeing it 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.959 not having cracked and then now crack exposed. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.200 So first and foremost, I gotta say, I never saw 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:15.960 dupe in my life. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.439 This makes a nooyse s' something dope. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.800 Pussy, Yeah already. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.000 But that being said, so before eighty five, before like 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.960 eighty four eighty five, you know, you remember that ship, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.480 it was like a nigga. A nigga could be like 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.480 what I call nigga rich Man. You might just your 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.320 hus your hustle might only back then might have got 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.000 you like three four five grand, but you. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:41.319 Had a car. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.240 You always had a why with a rubber band? He 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.080 was he was bawling. And the Crack changed that ship. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.920 I remember, I remember the crack did a few things, man. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.200 Because I heard Oakland was like not Oakland, but I 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.800 mean that area was a great area. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.880 Like prior to the drugs. 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.400 You could move around a little bit. It wasn't too 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.080 fucking dangerous if you do free raidss later on later 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.439 on continue, but it's the kind of place where you 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.640 could you had to get yourself in some trouble if 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.160 you did it, if you asked for it, you was 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:17.000 gonna get it to the fist appropriately. But after the crack, 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.559 you would notice like a and you know this shit too, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.439 it would be like little niggas, the little niggas that 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.679 used to probably couldn't fight too good and shit, and 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.200 it wasn't like you know, these little niggas was respected. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.960 Now they got that money that sacked and they got 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.640 a couple of soldiers and the like this little niggas 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.840 a boss now like two three years into it, like 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.400 this nigga is a kingpin. And it just changed that. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.960 You know, we didn't before the crack, we didn't have 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.280 a handguns that could shoot seventeen bullets. You know what 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.120 I'm saying that the most you might get shoot six 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.480 shots and the motherfucker you know, tell you why you 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.760 got shot after the crack, you don't know why you 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:52.200 got shot, nigga seventeen and that's just if it's a handgun. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.920 So do you believe this story that the CIA actually 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.960 did that it started? 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.040 Well, that's a good version that it's true. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.880 But the bigger version now is the whole big story 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.920 of the whole mass incarceration thing, that the whole ship 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.319 was a scan. So that is down there like we 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.720 we all this ship we called coke wrap. We're down 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.439 there like we fell for the trap. You know they 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.720 call what they sell dope, and the spot called the trap. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.800 That I mean, it says it all. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.840 So so listen, I want to get into the pimping 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.520 thing because you know why I want to get into 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.640 the pimpping thing because I don't give a fuck with 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.679 any n y C. Nigga. Tell you, we didn't know 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.240 anything about no Pipman until we heard you talking about it. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.280 When you heard you talking about it, then we seen 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.199 Bishop don wud. We've seen them, you know, the players, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.000 uh players ball, We've seen all that. Come on, he. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:41.680 Stopped the phone. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:49.360 But so so so so, so when was the first 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.760 time he was introduced to pimping? And then how did 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.480 you realize that that was that was gonna be your life? 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.400 All right? Well, my infatuation started with the movies of 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.599 the seventies because they put it in there so superflow. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.000 And then, like I said, my cousins living on eighty 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.480 fourth and Hoover, if you go to the other end 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.360 of the block, you're gonna figure Rower And that's. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.160 Where going eighty fourth and Hoover, that's in La. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.840 So then when I get to Oakland, I see these 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.320 niggas rideing around limousines with hoses, then getting picked up 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:14.360 in school from his hose and. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.400 Is looking at me back there's like that back then. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.280 Yeah, And then me and my little homie would go 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.640 down to Sam Pablo where they used to see pussy 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.360 in the prior to Crack, they looked like the fucking 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.800 modeling runaway and ship. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.000 Hose were beautiful prior to Crack. Yeah. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.439 Soor because you know, Crack gave pipping and home like 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.440 this ugly sma. A lot of pemps got smoked out, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:35.960 a lot of holes got smoked out, and it was 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.000 like then we start saying ship like crack. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.000 Horse before that, your bitch had to be a superstar. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.959 And even to this day, I want to shout out 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.480 some of my young pimping homies right now that they're 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.040 pimping on some dying pieces that you would never think 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.800 was a bitch is not making three hundred dollars when 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.959 she left, she's bringing in a thousand. She's bringing in thousands. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.880 You know, it's some holes out there on some major 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.400 routes right now. So just to keep the having a 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:01.440 live don't don't, don't get it. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.040 I keep popping my car like I'm like every time 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:06.400 I keep. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.640 Your nigga's not wearing suits and times with match your 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.240 shoes social media, they look. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.040 Like rappers money. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.079 So so I I've seen this ship, man, I start 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.439 I started diving a little more into it. My thing 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.440 with rapping after I heard the message was let's use 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.760 the lingo of the streets, the new slang words that 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.080 come out the ship that's really happening, Like, let's talk 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.760 about these streets. And then it just evolved into you know, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.160 let's talk about this game. And we just started like 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.560 people just you would rap about ship and you would 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.680 see what motherfucker was interested in. They wanted to hear 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.920 that real ship. So somewhere down the line I had 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.120 I had a line in one of my. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.800 Sworn pass you too, I don't know if you smoke, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.480 Oh ship, oh ship. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:48.520 Too short. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.960 I was gonna say that I was cool, cool, my dad, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:56.760 I didn't know you smoke. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.240 At a young I was about fifteen sixteen, I wrote 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.720 this this one and it said it said I had 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.800 sixteen holes sucking ten toes that you can bet like. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.160 It was just a line, and every time I said 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.280 that in the song, Motherfucker's laughed. So I sat down 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.800 by myself and said, let me write a song about 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.960 each of these sixteen holes and how I met him. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.040 And that was then early version of my song that 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.960 came to be real popular, called Freaky Tales. And I 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.040 had a song about these sixteen holes, how I met him, 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.080 I met this hole, you know. And it just started 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:30.960 being more and more pimping. I just started digging into 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.160 the game. And you you gotta you know, you got 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:40.040 the Donald Goyn's books, you got you know, Iceberg, Slim, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.200 The Story of my Life, Phil Moore. Some of those 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.640 books got some real game up in them, real game. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.600 I read this book called up broad Players. It's not 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.320 very popular, but that motherfucker just is just big pipping 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.360 And I started it just come to me, man, you 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.360 get these ideas as a writer, and I'm like, damn, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.520 that'd be the cold at. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.000 Fuck to just like tell this guy your story short. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.320 One time I met bis your don wan, he invited 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.800 me to a joint, right and then and then so 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.880 for a week I was pimping, like for just one week, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:12.840 just one week. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:13.960 Right, just one week. 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.080 No, I swore I was pimping. Right, So this white 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.760 bitch come on to me and I said, you bitch, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:20.440 you gotta. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.280 Choose, and she chose, She chose me. I ain't know 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.480 what to do after that. After that short can you can? 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:26.760 You can? 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:27.280 You? 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:31.680 Was? She chose me and started the science of the 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.160 where and why? And the ship was like it's like 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.920 any other business man, why is this woman gonna sell 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:39.280 her body and give you the money? 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:39.840 Right? 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.040 And you know, you put yourself in sort of like 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.080 a manager role, you kind of like a kind of 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.440 like her fucking fucking arapists and ship, you know, because 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.640 this is gonna be crazy as hell. You gotta you 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.160 gotta bring it back around every night. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.240 Because a real pimp gotta be real smart. Let's just 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:55.520 keep it. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.800 But then the main, the main secret I think that 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.920 I learned about pepping, that one that the one that 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.040 let you go home and kick your ass back while 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.480 she's out there working. Uh huh, is she got to 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.719 be home for a purpose and you've got to give 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:07.120 her a person. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:12.240 It makes a noise for for purpose. Stop stop giving 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.520 that pussy away for no reason. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.240 I mean, it's anything in life. Man, if you're not driven, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:18.960 if you you wrapping and ship and you're not rapping 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.000 for something, you're not really you're not really going for it, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.959 just on the corner freestyling and battling. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.600 I just always thought that like the pimps that didn't 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.919 hit their holes and didn't do that, the best one. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.280 I thought that was the best ones because in order 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.679 for you to control somebody with your mind and just 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:39.400 talk to them, that is the illest psychological therapists, craziest ship. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.200 So how about those PEPs. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.359 But you know the pimps who I call that like 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.399 finesse pipping where you could just. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.800 Make a noise. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.199 And then the other guy who got to beat the 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:52.879 girl scared to shut up her. They call that gorilla 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.040 pimp gorilla pipping. I heard about it, and you know, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.119 the Finesse pimps, they kind of laugh at the gorilla pimps. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.000 It's kind of like they look at it like the 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.679 nigga's not as smart as me and he don't got 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.359 as much much game as me. But it works both ways. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.480 You want to you want to pim up the whole 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.520 out of fear. I personally don't think that that's even necessary, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.439 but there's a lot of niggas. It's mean nature like 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.080 that to just dog the bitch out and just and 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.600 just run run a house full of fear. But you know, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.359 either way, you're getting the money man because you because 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.000 your record. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.320 Label was always was you was signed a job for 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:22.879 like like twelve. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.600 No shit, like like maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.960 Hours, thirteen years was You're the only album? 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.080 No, it was me E forty spice one. It was. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.920 It was because I know what the tours was crazy 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:35.280 back then. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.920 So but you was the first like official rapper from. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.600 Oakland, no doubt about it, from the whole fucking Bay area. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.680 Make some noise for that. I got damn no shit. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:50.200 And it has really nothing to do with my la upbringing. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.720 Either it's that I just got to Oakland. It all 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.240 just happened. After I got there, I decided I could 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:56.800 do this rap shit, and I just didn't. It just, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.560 you know, even bigger than being the first rapper up 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.560 out of the bay. Bigger than that is is being 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.080 a pioneer of the whole music scene, because you could 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.000 be the first rapper and note the ship and we 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.360 brought in that independent change the game, put your motherfucking 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.119 records out, you know, And like I said, it was. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.520 Because then job came and got you. How did that happen? 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.160 When we first got signed a job. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.560 I came in the game through uh through some uh, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.160 some street guys you know, Okay, particularly a guy named 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.160 Dean Hodges. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:32.199 He's seen you. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.159 And then his little brother was was the homie we 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.280 still you know, smoke weed, hangout and ship. He was 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.800 just the homie we start funk around. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.000 And like his little brother rapped. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.520 But he wasn't. He wasn't really that quality where that 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.080 you ever thought he was gonna get on. He was 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.439 just like for the fun of it. They were in 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.040 the projects rapping and ship kicking. So he was like, man, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:51.240 my brother got a record. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:51.600 Label. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.520 I'm like, okay, you other niggasle me take your. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:54.920 Boy his house. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.400 Now I knew his brother, not for having a record label. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.800 The nigga he had the sack. And if you want 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:01.760 to get the visual Dean back then, Dean kind of 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.200 you know nigga with the with the curlers in his hair, the. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:07.560 Green or whatever the coast. 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.240 Every time they had the curlers in the head, you 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:10.600 thought your nigga was killless. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.359 Picture of that nigga looking like a kind of like 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.720 a Jimmy Hendrix, Rick James looking. Niggas just like a 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:22.080 rock star. Him and man, I got so much game. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.000 Dean taught me how. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.600 To be a player. This nigga was a player. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.040 Niggas a player for real, I mean real player who 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.200 was sitting in his house. I'm fresh out of high school. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.920 This nigga run hose in and out all day all day. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.040 Just he got the sack and he's just rockstarring the 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.480 hood and he's just a house on the hill balling 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.879 and the nigga. The nigga had a label, and his 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:43.159 whole label consisted of him mm hmm, having the money, 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.959 having the drug. Everybody wanted the cocaine. He said, out there, 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.280 you go to Dean's house, it's a platter of cocaine 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:49.800 right there. 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.000 It's a it's a bitch. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.560 It's a bit over there, maybe in her and her 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.960 draw panties and and bra cooking up some cokes. 0:20:58.720 --> 0:20:59.359 Want to smoke it. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.919 It's a box of weed. Just roll a joint. If 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.280 don't ask, just roll the motherfucker. And you know, it's 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.960 just it was a colorful environment, man, motherfucking Dean was 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.000 kind of nigga. They watch San France Son reruns all 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.480 day and just and just bitches sit around in their panties. 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.560 I'm not gonna lie when you describe that scene. 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.399 Side it looked like some shit like that. Immediately on 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.560 a way higher level. This nigga was not selling rocks. 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.760 This was not a rock house. You had to pick. 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.360 You had to come up in there with some money, 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:25.840 if you know what. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.760 So Dean got all these professionals together, musicians that play 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.320 all instruments, niggas that have been in you know, different 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.720 bands with because Oakland got a lot of music history. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.800 So these niggas that play with Tower of Power and 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.359 Larry Graham and James and all kind of motherfuckers. It 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.439 was just it was professionalism. And he put me in 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.879 the studio with these niggas, these like older cats. He 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:48.800 even had some rock and roll dudes around. It was 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.000 just it was a great environment to become too short. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.480 It wasn't really doesn't sound really healthy, but it was 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.400 a great environment to develop the character too short, and 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.960 we made We just got to studio since session started 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.879 eleven pm into six am, and it was just, you know, 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.160 it's a college for me, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.239 The main thing was the nigga was really running an 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.600 independent label and he was really going to the studio. 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.160 And he's the one who took you to job. 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.000 No, no, he was the one that he just taught 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.360 me this shit. Okay, So we go to the studio, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.440 the ship mixed down, We go to this other motherfucker, 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.159 We get cassettes and wax pressed up. We go this 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.399 other motherfucker and he sells the ship to multiple record 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.399 stores and then we drive up to individual record stores 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.159 and just carry the shit in and sell it to him. 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.560 Because it's true, I like y'all invented independent hustling. 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.040 How I got lucky was one day I'm one hundred 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.000 one hundred percent with Dean. This nigga, you know, the 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.119 nigga that taught you the game. You're looking up till this, 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.920 this nineteen eighty five. This nigga's driving eighty five bens. 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:48.720 He's the nigga. 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.080 So you know, I'm like, what we doing next? 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.320 And then one day Deans, like about two years into it, 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.600 he was like, man to me and his little brother, 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.480 I need your niggas. Get the fuck out of my house. 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.960 Folks in this crib. Yeah, fuck this music ship. Just 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:03.639 get then away, come right. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.240 But we like family, his mama like my mom, and 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:08.399 his cousins like my cousin. 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.920 We ain't going too far right up the street. 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.480 But still now he was like, I don't want no 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.359 more parts of it. So that all we had to 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.159 do now is we've been running with Dean for two years, 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.840 to the mother fucking studio, to the manufacturer, to the 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.359 nigga that do the artwork, to the mother fucking distributor 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.040 picking up the check. We right there with him. What 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:27.640 do we do we do the ship without him? Nigga, 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.119 we made so much, motherfucker, and that's how you are. 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:31.879 That's how Joe found me. 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:33.320 And then job came to you. 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.879 We didn't give a fuck about the signing bonus and nothing. 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.879 We're just like, you're gonna give us national distribution. 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.080 Let's loo get out. You know it's in New York. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:43.280 It was the exact opposite. 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:44.040 Cocky some of that. 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.680 Why yeah, you'll be trying to get a deal, right, 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:48.840 We'll be trying to get a deal first. 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:54.880 But we heard something because we heard that Richmond, California. 0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.199 You guys in, yeah, Oakland, like you guys in like that, 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.960 y'all was actually like when you said selling out the trunk, 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:08.880 we meant that as selling it to fat beats. We 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.199 wasn't selling out. I'm keeping it honest with you. We 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.399 weren't selling out the trunk, y'all. Was literally we had 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.280 boxes in the back of selling out the motherfucking trunk. 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.480 And it wasn't no trunk. It was actually a fucking 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.399 truck truck actually trunk. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:24.240 Yeah. Wow. 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.159 Same thing with master P. Man master P was in 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.080 the Bay. He was in the Bay owned record He 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.200 owned a record store in Richmond. Master P was from 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:40.200 New Orleans, came out to the Bay and he started 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.399 making the fucking West Coast down South compilations and ship 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.600 and then he blew the fuck up and set up 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:46.760 shop down in the bathroom. 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.600 Master P was in the bay with sunking up that 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:51.480 independent game. 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.200 So yah, y'all, y'all taught us the independence ship. 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.560 Like every time, it was just a no option thing. 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:56.760 Though. 0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.840 Man if I had a fucking Tommy Boy and other 0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.520 god damn profile records was up the streets. I've been 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:04.959 up there telling me to hook me the fuck up, 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:06.159 but we didn't have it. 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.199 So you guys got had to always look at New 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.960 York people like niggadamn y'all lazy. How the hell you 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.160 all got a deal on y'all in the in the city. 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.800 I had a rap partner before, like a eighty five, 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.480 my rap partner got caught up in the in the 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:17.920 crack game. 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.040 And okay, we never heard this. 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.040 Let's make a noise too short for giving us the exco. 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.760 My nigga, Freddy b he was, he was, he was popping. 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.439 It was it was Freddy being too short. It was 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.000 that nigga. That nigga was an Oakland niggas born and 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:32.800 brand new niggas on every side of town. That was 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.639 he was. He was like the plug for me, like 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:40.480 on just walking the streets. But yeah, before that though, okay, 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:41.680 that we was working. 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.680 I ain't gonna lie to you. I did song with 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.840 you back in the days. But for you to sit 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.760 down and sit down and chill, because you. 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:56.000 Know what this is. It's about letting legends live again. 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:57.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.560 This is the drink Try podcast is about. And for 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.000 you to just sit down and you not to deny 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.600 me pass you the weed. I am very fucking happy, 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.879 my brother. They guy shoking up Blunt with too short 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.399 interview with too short some fucking. 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:16.720 This is a serious legend. 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.760 They were like nineteen eighty three, eighty four, me and 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.840 Freddie b we're talking about all right, that's what we're 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:23.199 gonna do. 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.679 Right, We're gonna get two Greyhound tickets. 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.280 We wrote down the list every mother fucking twelve inch 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.719 that came out, every every every single that dropped out 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:31.240 of New York. 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:32.720 Wow, all the different labels. 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.280 We wrote down an address to the motherfucking label. We're like, 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.280 we're got a fucking Greyhound. Were going on these fucking address. 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.359 We gonna get us a record out like that was 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:40.439 the that was the option. 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.040 Wow, all you knew niggas need to listen to what 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:48.119 he just said. Say, yo, oh my god, can't continue please, 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.000 that's this is a crazy story. These guys are stowed 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.640 on the internet and just hope Kevin Lyles call them 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:54.480 gag continue. 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.199 Yeah, but you know it was gonna We had plans, 0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.040 man like, it was like options and ship and then 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.080 we got with that independent game and it should just 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.919 happened like Dean. Dean showed me how to do it. 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.199 I always give credit to him for it and what 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.080 I did when I got it, I passed it on 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.359 to one of my homies. Okay, the dude who I'm 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.760 who came back around. After I quit fucking with Dean, 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.359 I still needed somebody to come with some money to 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.520 make the dream come true. I knew how to do it, 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.080 but I didn't have the money no more. So my 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:28.520 man teed Bohannan, him and Big Ted Little till they 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.160 got they got a little rep in the streets of Oakland. 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:35.200 People know who that is. They they came through, put 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.919 a nigga back in the game with the you know, 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.159 the studio time and being able to press up the 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:40.920 ship and all that shit, and we just kind of 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.520 we blew up from there. Man we went to the 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:50.720 next motherfucking level with just I'm just every every I 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.960 think it was like every fifteen racks would make me 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.520 like sixty or some shit like that. 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.520 Every fifteen racks you spend, yeah, make you bring back sixty. 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.000 Drug dealers listen to this pay attention. 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.040 And it was clear legit money, and we kept flipping 0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.040 it so many times, like we just kept on getting 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.439 this is when you're just indeed, though, We'll go by 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.280 fifteen thousand consettes and selling for sixty racks And. 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.560 Did that give you the upper handle when a jive 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:14.280 king knocking. 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.600 Yeah. But all we wanted from Jove was distribution. The 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.080 way we did the ship, we just we just wanted 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.240 to get a different deal though, compared to like someone 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.400 in New York that was signing the drive right. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:25.240 Trup. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.840 We thought we did in the long the motherfuckers just slick. 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.959 Man, because That's what I'm wondering. 0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.399 We thought we had some ship and we had to 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.879 bullshit too. But it's cool. We Wow, we made a 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.400 lot of money. How long you've been in the job. 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.840 How many years I was on that motherfucker from eighty 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.040 eight until like god, damn, damn me in two thousand 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:45.880 and eight. It was a long time. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.400 This makes some noise money a long time. 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.360 A lot of mother count that long, a lot of motherfuckers. 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:57.880 But you might have fun on jobs. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.920 Let me say it's funny that so I wrapped a 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.080 long time before I got a deal. I did a 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:03.520 lot of shit before I got a deal. I got 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.680 a deal in eighty eight, and I had been rapping 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.120 like seven eight years already. So I had all these 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:09.880 rap songs that I put out in the streets that 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:10.760 people knew and loved. 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.760 But I signed a jive. It shot me to check. 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.320 The albums went nationwide, checks came back, you know, the 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.800 royalties and shit they shot the next up front, I'm like, nigga, Like, 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.520 you know, we was getting money grinding and hustling. I 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.440 was like, Nigga, thisse Nigga's gonna keep sending me hundreds 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:28.719 of thousands if I make songs. 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:29.960 Nigga. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.480 I went back until I had a box. Well, I 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.680 didn't have a rap book. I had a box full 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.120 of raps I'd been writing down for years and just 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.200 little shapes in the street. I went in that box 0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.080 and recycled every motherfucking line in there. I would just 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.680 scratch out the line if I use it. I was 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.000 using them old raps for the. 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:48.959 Next eight years. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.080 Well shit, I wrote for eight years prior I used 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.640 for eight years. In my deal, I put out an 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.120 album probably every nine months. 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.400 And now, what would you consider itself? 0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.640 More of a rapper or more of a ceo and 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.520 a ulf. 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.840 Well as far as rap goes, I think I'm a real, 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.240 real major hip hop fan, and I always put myself 0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.280 outside the circle of what I'm calling hip hop niggas 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.120 who was like, ooh that niggas spit them. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.640 Bars, you know, ship like you're the ooh ship. 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.560 I was strictly just pounding in the trunk, talking ship. 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.479 And I could have taught a lot of niggas, no 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.280 matter what the integrity of you as a man, I 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.640 could have taught you how to talk that ship and 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.280 make that ship pound and you would have had a 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.920 million fans like me like it just you talk shit. 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:38.440 I listen, I'm saying ship talking versus spitting bars and 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.920 all this ship and being a rapper. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.240 But see, oh, man, I. 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.080 Look at it like we hustlers, man, because we we 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.560 we started a company and we don't say you my boss. 0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.240 And that's like, nigga, we hustling to get this money 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.400 doing something. We didn't drop niggas off on the way 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.880 because we hustling and getting money. It's a lot of 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.880 money coming in, and niggas like call me when y'all 0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.280 going to lunch, you know, Like, nigga know, we up 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.560 at seven in the morning pressing the shipping and picking 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.600 up ship and moving it around niggas, you know, and 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.800 we and we partied all last night, but were up 0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.520 in the morning grinding getting this ship to where we 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:07.480 can get these checks back. 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.200 I always thought about bank deposits. 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.120 Damn, you need to be making you need to be 0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.240 making more money than Yeah, you take that in the bank. 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.720 I put that in the bank. So I put that 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.120 ship under my master's foul. 0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.160 I'm like, how the fun can we make get to 0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.360 the bank and put money in uh huh? So we grinding, man, 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.520 like we grinding niggas is don't have that same black 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:35.320 minded philosophy. He was dropping them off on the way. 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.920 Now, how did you get to minute to society? Bro? 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:45.440 How did you because you. 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.320 Just stole you had really okay, the Huge Brothers, this 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.840 is what I think happened. The Huge Brothers are really 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.720 real big Bay area hip hop fans. Oh wow, and 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.920 they're from Pomona somewhere in l Ay. They love Bay 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.880 Raptor say, this is what they told me. And Tupac 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.640 had just fucked off his partner the movie by beating 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.440 one of the brothers up about that. 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:07.960 That makes. 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:18.680 So so Park was off the movie. And if you notice, 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.440 it's not a lot of star power you got but 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:21.680 didn't have your role. 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:22.200 No, no. 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.480 He didn't. He had supposed to be. 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.640 That was so they needed a little star power and 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.160 they just they strictly just brought me in so that 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.480 they could have like somebody name brand and that motherfucking 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.080 and they just happened to be major too short fans. 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.080 You noticed they came and got me for the next 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:45.040 little documentary movie. What was it called American Pimp? Oh yes, 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:46.840 they let me set. 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.000 You you're supposed to be in there ahead. 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.440 So it was it was just a matter of that. 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:50.600 Man. 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:51.920 I came in and worked for a few days and 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:52.280 kicked it. 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:56.479 Minister Society a cold ass movie, and you had the 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:57.520 coldest role in there. 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.680 They letting nigga you know I'm not was the cold world. 0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.400 They pulled the strap on dog. 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.520 That's what I'm the movie. That's what I'm talking about. 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:05.600 Let's make some noise you put. 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.560 That's a fact, yo, yo. 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.920 That that's I mean for us, especially us from New York. 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.760 You know, when we seen you, when we see n 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.680 w A, when we see minister society boys in the hood, 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.680 that's when we actually realized y'all culture because. 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:26.480 We knew that hip hop. 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.080 I think comedy had made a record our lover her 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.320 and but when they went over it, yeah, I used 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.880 to love her, but when it went over there, y'all 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:39.560 was so different. And for me, everything was about buildings. 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.920 Everything was about like when I see you in the face, yeah, 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.280 and y'all chopped it up and this was the craziest 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.320 thing to see you guys in your element, you know 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.920 what I'm saying. Like, But but the crazy thing is 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.360 you was from South Central and then you went. 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.360 Up North North North Cam you called it up. 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:08.160 North Yeah, yeah, see see North. Two different worlds, different 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.000 gang the Mexican gangs. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.319 They divide them, the slang words, the dress code, wow yeah. 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.879 And you could adapt to both worlds. Still, I mean 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:16.760 to this day. 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.760 To this day, you can still look that I'm gonna 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.360 lie I had a promoter hit me one time and 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.799 it was a it was a lady, it's like, you 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.759 want too short. It's the easiest people to handle. And 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.719 I was like, why is that? It was like, you 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.200 don't askual for hearing make up. 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.919 They just want to land and we missed the Davis. 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:36.720 What's not five too short? 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:37.719 Yeah? 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:39.480 I'm like, I'm like, what's the pick up? 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:41.600 Yeah, you can take that. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.719 You where dim Mike at you need one? 0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.600 So that but after minutes, how did your life change? 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.120 Because that had to be the biggest music movie at 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:52.560 that time. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.040 Man, I ain't gonna lie. 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.279 Man, what I had going on at that moment was 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.200 bigger than that movie. My ship was platinum, platinum, platinum. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.160 That that movie was like some side ship. 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.040 I wouldn't that was I was. 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.080 I was already popping. So if the movie came out, 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.640 hit hard, but it was. It was one of the 0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.279 ones that kind of like Purple Range kind of movie 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.680 where it kind of lasted and last year don't go 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.840 Away and you watch it right now on TV or 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.360 you know, unedited, it's still it's the ship. 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:20.319 The movie. 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.600 The Boy's made a good movie. But I'm you know, man, 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.719 that whole New York West Coast thing I used to 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.399 I used to go to New York. What you're telling 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:29.680 me now? Like I used to go to New York 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.040 and I know for a fact it wasn't really about 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:34.080 the music because motherfucker's like, man, I really didn't even 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.040 hear too much shit you did. But they'd be like, man, 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.279 respect some respect, kid like it would be. 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.680 It was, you know the fact that it was a 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.799 nationalized It's like if you the man, you're the man 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:44.480 of your hood. 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.080 So I asked my New York because I'm like, what 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:47.799 does that mean that they keep saying respect. They was like, 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.839 they're showing you love. Like it's just saying, you know, ship, 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.120 that's that's a big deal for New Yorker. It says 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.799 to you respect. So I was like, okay, cool, but 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.840 it wasn't about the music, you know, And you know 0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.320 I kind of I kind of you know, I started 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:02.440 hanging out in New York a little bit. 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.799 Man, After a while, they love you in New York. 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.279 I don't know if you know that, but you know, 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:13.640 the whistle whistle comes, I. 0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.839 Start getting them studios though in New York moving around ship, 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.439 I didn't. I didn't been on I've been on three 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.440 jay Z albums, two big albums. 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.279 Going was, I was up, it was going there. 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:26.880 How did that first feel? 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.439 Like? You know, Jay wanted to mess with you. You're 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.600 all the way on the other side of the coast 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.080 and he wanted I got the I. 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.000 Got the B I G blessing b I G. Just 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.800 he was you know, if you worked your bigger before 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.120 j or do you work with big first and the 0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.439 big first? He told me this ship man, He told 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.200 me this ship the first time I met him. He can't. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.799 He called me over to a limo. We was at 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.160 the outcast picnicking. 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:55.360 And Limos was popping backigg. 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.640 Nigga, can't limo right now? 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.520 If you fucked up, nigga, you put up in a limo, nigga, 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.920 ain't nobody niggas like, who who's fuck getting bob blowing. 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:02.239 Up right now? 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.840 Like yeah, yeah, But then I understand Limos. 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.160 That the nigga caught me over to the limo and 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.239 you know, roll the window down. I walked, I leaning 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.640 over and it's a friendly event outdoor, you know, just 0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:13.719 manching and ship on. 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.840 The on the front line, the backround, all around. 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.480 The house and ship and he called me over and 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.960 he just said, yo, yo, you got love in Brooklyn. 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.239 That's all he said about Big. I was like, what's up? 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.719 And then a couple of years later, niggas a super 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:26.279 megan stuff. 0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.359 But but hold on because I want you to continue story. 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.840 But did you know how much New York loved you? 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.640 Because New York loved you. 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.360 That's what I'm getting at. It was a it was 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.200 a gradual you know understanding. I didn't even I wasn't 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.080 getting it for a minute. 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.719 Oh okay, so uh he told me that ship. 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.000 And then a couple of years later, we sitting on 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.040 the tour bus, he spoke some weed. He was like, yo, 0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.279 remember that time he came up to the limos, like 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:48.640 you got love in Brooklyn? 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.239 He said that was me. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.319 I'm like, damn, you know, like you know. 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.359 Oh, so he wasn't Biggie when he told you that. 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:55.960 He probably was already had his deal and ship. 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.160 He was. He was at the party, but he. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.120 Of noise too short, breaking the story. 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.239 Oh that's great. 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.360 So you've been Big before he was Big and he 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.200 told you you had love in Brooklyn and then you 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:08.680 see him. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.920 Later later on we started being homies and ship, we 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.439 making songs we did that the world is filled. 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:17.000 With So now I too short. 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.600 You keep making me pop my collar the whole episode 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.759 of making your shirt. I'm just I've been like that 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.480 and now I'm a Hyphian because you know, I go 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:28.320 out there recently. 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:30.040 I'm good. 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.520 Yeah, you know, Big just we just became friends, man, 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.759 and you know he was He told me about how 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:41.000 how New Yorkers, for the most part, wasn't really feeling 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.239 like listening to any other hip hop outside New York. 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.359 And he's like, man, I've been listening to everything though 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.040 he was naming Ship like he listened all down South Ship. 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.000 He was like, I like him. I like Ship. So 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.440 so he was. 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.879 One of them cats who was open without any kind 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.839 of bias, and he he wanted to work, like let's 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.360 do a song. And then the way I did the 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.400 song with him and he said, I for need to 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.800 come get me, Like you know, like puff is, you 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.040 can't say no kind of nigga. So Puffers like, man, 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:06.160 you know, Big want you on the song. 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.399 I've never been able to say no. St to this day. 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:13.120 Niggas like people think he's soft nigga niggas a bully man. Yeah, 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.000 he's a bully. He's a bully for this. 0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.200 This is a funny story that Big came to the 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.120 Oakland and I think somebody took his chain. 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:22.480 I ain't heard that one. You ain't heard that one. 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.240 You didn't hear that one. I heard forty helped that out. Okay, Okay, 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:27.760 you know what. I moved to Atlanta? 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.759 Okay, talk about that Atlanta movement was like, take you 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.520 responsible from Atlanta being a pimping country Atlanta? 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:38.600 What wait? 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.200 What Eric Sermon moved to Atlanta and. 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:45.160 They you moved to Atlanta early? What year did you move? 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:45.759 Ninety three? 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.720 Ninety three? Is is that why they got strip clubs 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:49.120 in Atlanta? 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:50.239 Moved there. 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.360 I didn't move that Atlanta for the music industry. I 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.120 moved to that motherfucker for the for the property, the culture, 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.319 and that I was. I was down there. It was 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.080 it was like easy math was real estate was like 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:06.760 one fourth a way. California is ship fucking up table 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.840 dancers at the strip club was five dollars? 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.320 How long were saying in California at that time. 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.359 The racial of women and men was like twenty to one. 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.120 It was it was going down and it was just 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:17.560 it was like. 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.200 You was the first person to crack this outing Lloyds 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.319 for him to crack the out, you. 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.520 Know, you know who beat me? There was the niggas 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.520 that beat me. Eric Simon showed up like a little. 0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:27.880 Bit before me. 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.440 Bobby Brown was Bobby Brown was acting ass around Brown. 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:33.080 He was acting. 0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.240 Brown was sucking everything he was in that motherfucker fucking everything. 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.560 It was his variagety. It was his variety. 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.760 Man, he was fucking everything. I ain't going out everywhere 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.040 like I was a little nigga. See everybody brow whoever 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.520 I was, We're like, you're gonna suck him to day. Yeah, 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.239 go ahead, boy, I'm sorry, I got Yeah. 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.439 So you know, Dallas Auston was starting his ship. 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:53.680 He was. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:57.200 He was involved with the HOTELC come up and l A. 0:40:57.280 --> 0:40:59.080 Reed was already and then he had the glove war. 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.880 When you met him, exhaust not he were in gloves 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.440 or spikes and ship. He's a little different. 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.960 He was rock and roll Dallas. He was a rock star. 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:08.200 He was. 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:09.399 He's a rock star. 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:09.960 He's always. 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:11.720 That's what I was trying to establish. 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:13.680 You know, he's old. He helped me out. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:14.440 L A. 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.640 Red was who he is, he was, he was all 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.640 of that that the face was there. He had Tony 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.560 Bracks and ship already been plattinum. He had like artist 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.200 Tony Terry, he was the face was established, and then 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.279 there was no outcasts. There wasn't no gooddy mobs, wasn't 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.320 you know. Chris Cross probably had like you know, single 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.200 or some ship, the new ship. They were still jumping 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.680 around ship. So I got there right when it started. 0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:35.279 Gucci Crew. 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.160 I think I got it, you know, tag teams bawling, 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:41.600 and we took we took the Face the Face Records. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.080 Yeah you heard that just now. 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.360 He was at the Face Records. They never offered be shipp. 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.720 Let's just make some noise for too short, for raping 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.920 the industry on. 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:56.280 I mean, I was just there for young Atlanta. 0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:00.000 You know, the architecture of what you're coming from. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.760 You come from, you're born, You're born in South Central, 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:05.360 move to Oakland and now you. 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.200 And then the eyeball Atlanta. I'm at the freak nig 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.160 like what I'm come back? 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.480 And you did you realize that this was born to 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.680 be the music scene or you was just out there? 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:17.200 I went to the I had already been touring out 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.480 there doing doing concerts and ship and then we're going 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.840 to Magic City, and yeah, fuck around, I knew the lifestyle. 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.960 Now Magic City is where Players Club is based on. 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.040 Could that it could be? 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:29.799 It could be. 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.799 What did you feel like when you've seen the Players Club? 0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:33.880 Was that true to you? 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.760 Or was that to the lifestyle I was living? Cube 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.920 is my nigga, to the lifestyle was living. That's very 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.879 watered down strip club experience in that movie. I've never 0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.560 really seen a strip club to give you a movie 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.160 to give you that real fucking strip club feeling that real. 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.640 So we're gonna make the movie. Opportunity drink chaps, We're 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:51.800 gonna make the movie together. 0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:56.480 I never really after that the real strip club experience. 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.880 And now are you saying in the Bay Area now, 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.440 I'm talking about it anywhere? 0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:02.960 It's so whack on the West Coast. I don't I 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:04.560 don't even strip clubs on the West Coast. 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.239 I forget Miami and we got it here, man, we 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:06.719 got you. 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.600 No, I ain't gonna lie Miami. You ain't doing it. 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.400 If you ain't doing it like Miami or Atlantai cities 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.520 like Dallas, if the bitch don't get butt, nigga, and 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.320 you can have a drink in the same building. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:16.920 It's bullshit. 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.360 Let's make a noise for too short ring about the 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.480 real strip club strip clock right there. 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.640 I tell my niggas in New York all the time. 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.720 In New York on the time we go to Susan 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:33.560 and you know, I'm like, it's a strip club in 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:34.439 l a with a bitch. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.000 Bitch wear three pairs of panties. She barely gets topless 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:40.799 for a minute. She keeps poking the titty out and 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.520 then every time the bitch pull her panties back, it's 0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:43.680 another pair of panties under it. 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.520 I mean, if I was in the hotel, that would 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.920 work for me. Put it in the strip club with nice. 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.360 I'm in Atlanta, man, I'm getting there, you know, before 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.520 I moved there, and you like, you get a dance, 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.360 right she? You say, can I get a dance? And 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.680 you say, let me see that pussy? M So she 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.360 before you even get to dance, You's like, let me 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.200 just see what I'm getting into. And then you go, oh, yeah, 0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:07.839 I want to dance based on if you like what 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.880 you see. You ain't doing that at no. You know 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.279 them other joints, you know, sometimes they call them strip clubs. 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.520 The shouldn't call them naked clubs because girls on your strip, 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:17.640 they don't even wearing nothing. 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:19.600 They don't even call it. I'm not gonna lie. 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.239 But some clubs they walk around but as nakeas you 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.160 don't even have a top of bottom. She's just walking 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:24.000 around already naked. 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.560 I thought I was a pimp for a week. It 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.399 didn't work out for me. I was, it wouldn't built 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:34.359 for me. I just couldn't do it. I just I 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.120 got compassion. I don't know, you should be. You can't 0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:39.719 have nohing, you can't have no like. 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.520 You know, I really feel like I could be a 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.719 really good pimp, but I got this other good ass 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:49.640 job called rapping. 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.240 I can't got that. 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.759 Every time you dabble in some pimping and this is 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.000 getting a few g's, she getting some g's bringing I'm like, 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.040 you just did all that stressing me the funk out right, 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.240 And that wasn't number two shows to me because. 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.320 They can't they can't touch the money they're supposed to 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.239 bring the money back. 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:09.319 That's a real pim. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.359 So you're just having a good month, you get uh 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.160 walking around kind you get like fifteen twenty racks out 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:16.920 the bitch of the month. That's a few shows. That's 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.360 a couple of shows. That's never she's gonna stress you 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.240 the funk out. 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.960 For thirty days. 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:22.320 Yeah, yeah, you're right. 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:27.120 Keep that ship. You w do a show they sucked after? 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.920 So how does it feel, Chris? Because you you did 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.880 a song with jay Z and Biggie Small. 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:41.080 I need to multiple songs and bok yeah and and snoop. 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.240 How that's That's something I'm really proud of in a career, 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.520 super super super olg in a career. I am the 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.920 thought that all those guys are gonna be, you know, legends. 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.239 No they they are on the other. 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.000 But when we're all gone, you know, I just want 0:45:59.040 --> 0:45:59.920 to be in that. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.719 To repertoire and boom doogs too. Right? 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:05.279 Did we do a song? I'm not just make songs. 0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:08.200 I don't even know. Maybe I ain't gonna them the hommies. 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.879 Up, My nigga, just told you I did the song 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:11.480 on your album. 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.720 You ain't even remember. You were sitting there, like word 0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.640 you did? You did so much song. You're a legend. 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:19.240 You're legend. 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:23.480 We got a bang that song on What the funk 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.760 was the hook? I pulls up my phone right now. 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:33.680 We believe you checking out having job job, But sure, man, 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:38.480 how about you, like all these years, how do you 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.720 maintain your love for hip hop? How does that happen? 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.920 Because I like that new ship. I ain't gonna lie. 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.160 I like you like the new. I like what it happens. 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.719 And I'm not talking about the new right now. I'm 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.120 talking about every time the new, every time it changes, 0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.400 because you know that when you're the nigga, it's like sports. 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:55.439 It's like the fucking hood. 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.680 When you're the nigga and that next nigga come up 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:00.319 like the super stud and start getting a little more 0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.160 attention to you, you start feeling the kind of way 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.879 and you still feel the same for that nigga though 0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.799 I'm that nigga. 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:08.320 Who's getting money. 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.960 Who if I see a young nigga getting it, I'm like, 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.439 nig get it, nigga, Like I'm that's real. 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:13.799 Man. 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.080 You understand what you just said. Let's make some noise 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.280 for that everybody camera. 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.200 That's real because I'm promoting that ship. Let's all get it. 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:25.359 Let's get it, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:29.399 when you get it, you're wrong if you don't pass 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.319 it on it's all work. You're wrong if you don't 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:33.240 share this some kind of way. Don't give it away, 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.360 but teach the next nigga how to get it too, because. 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:39.000 You always had fun with the game. Like every time 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:41.200 I seen you, I don't care where I see you at. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.240 You're walking through you looking good. 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.359 You know what I'm saying. Like there's other people who 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.239 don't do that. You know what happens. Those blessings they 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.400 come around, man, It's come back around. There's been a 0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.920 time in my life where ship was fucked up, and 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:55.840 that's a fuck that ship. And then somebody who I 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.279 showed that love to is like, what's wrong man? You know, 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.719 and instantly and then not. 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.000 For the love and I buy my man, mister fab 0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:04.160 you mister fab. 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.600 That's my dude, that's like my son. 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.960 My god, this makes a noise for mister Faby too 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:09.560 short signs. 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:11.759 Damn god, damn it. 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.800 We just saw him in south By, Southwest with cows. 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.880 Oh yeah yeah, thirty years of rapping cows cows. 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:19.440 That's my nigga. 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.480 Yeah yeah, that's my nigga. That's my brother. Thirty years 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:21.960 of rapping. 0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:22.600 Uh huh. 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.359 I'm like we were getting money other ways we can 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:26.760 do this ship with it without the microphone. 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.120 We can get down right, but you still enjoy what 0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:29.440 you do. 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.280 Fab came to me and uh and was like, man's 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:34.879 been wrapping thirty years. You got to make an album. 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.560 So I'm doing an album called the thirtieth Anniversary. And 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:39.640 my man came in the kind of a and R 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.120 on my album for me, just you know, just kind 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:42.040 of just kind of like. 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:42.879 It's a beautiful thing. 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.560 Whole bunch of ship were doing the hoods and ship 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.959 and just just just like put a nigg in shape, 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:48.719 like you know, you get a nigg in shape right right, 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:49.720 you got a nigga shape. 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:50.200 For a gets album. 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:51.560 So I got I'm an old ass nigga. I just 0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:52.960 turned fifty like last Thursday. 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:54.760 Nah, man, this makes a noise for his turn to fifty. 0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.120 Goddamn yeah, nigga. 0:48:58.719 --> 0:48:59.719 Nigga hit motherfucker. 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:02.840 We had carrrass One here and he had a air 0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:08.120 our pe card. It's correct, yeah, our Peak card. 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.080 You know my age. 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.239 Yeah, you know, he definitely said he's fifty. Okay, he 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.680 definitely said he's fifty. Ain't nothing wrong. But you know 0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:21.280 what's crazy? Short, You you look young. You're doing young 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:25.920 ship and you still have the love for it, Like 0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.120 I could look at you when I ask you these questions. 0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:30.160 You really still love hip hop? 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:31.080 No, it's the hustle. 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:32.800 I'm about to get on the mic and wrap in 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.760 front of the crowd tonight and a ship tonight. 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.560 I grabbed the mic and lived last night, you know, 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.279 damn it and live. We should have went to live. 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:41.880 I ain't gonna lie. I was so tired last we 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:45.120 had a long. We had a long. 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.120 I wish I knew you was there. So you never 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.799 lost your love for hip hop? Now once now for rap? 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.200 Now no now because he could be lean with it, 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.160 rock with it. Niggas is that they okay? Like you 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:59.440 gotta you got a bunch of motherfuckers that like this 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.960 new we ship. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. Shi, 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.279 It is weird. These motherfuckers like it. I try to 0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:07.600 get around and figure out what is it that they like. 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.520 It must be the infectious beat, it must be the catchy, 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.480 it must be the way to make it dance. It's 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:14.520 something good about it. So I'm like, I'm like, oh, 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.640 I get it. I try to get it, Like, why 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.600 is your niggas dressing all weird. Oh, I get it 0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.040 if it makes sense if you. 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.240 If they're dressing all weird, I don't know. 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:25.439 I don't get that part. 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.880 But they don't want to be like us, don't want. 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.000 Kids and their defence when you look at them, like 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:38.480 the first printures of hip hop, the first person he's dressing. 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.400 Yes, these little niggas that we call them weird right 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:46.920 now the niggas is trying to look like the eighties. 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.640 With the Golden Ship. 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.320 So so with that being said, and you being a pimp, 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:53.360 you being a real nigga. I've never heard too short 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.080 in a controversy other than when you ran from police. 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.320 That was crazy. What happen when you ran for police? 0:50:58.400 --> 0:50:59.040 Just talk about that. 0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.040 I was in l I had an apartment. I had 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.920 an apartment right across the street from right here from 0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:10.560 where I was running from apart. I was about to 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.319 dip up in the spot. And then it's nothing that 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:17.040 ain't being done before. 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:23.480 You gotta be careful. I'm just saying that it was crazy. 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.400 We walked, bro, we walked the line. I talked to 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.520 that brother. I was like, man, I did all the tests, 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.440 all this ship. I wasn't even drunk. I was like 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:33.600 it had been. It was three thirty. The drinking had 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.640 stopped a while ago. I was gonna walk these bitches 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:36.880 to the. 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:41.000 Car, okay, because the bus is let's make some noise, 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:41.840 man keeping it. 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.920 And I still don't call these bitches bitches because after 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:48.399 I got in all the trouble, they never called back 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.600 once to say to you, okay, you listen. It was 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.160 just some bitches I met that night. Walk these bitches 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:54.880 to the car. I said, you know, you know what, 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.839 I live right over there. It's like about a block 0:51:57.880 --> 0:51:59.719 and a half. Said, I'm gonna drive it all over 0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:01.680 this thirty one and hang out ho spot. I'm gonna 0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.239 driving all over there. Drove him over there and hit 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.080 a little you turn to come back. Nigga, turn the 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.200 light on me. He made me do all this ship 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:10.239 And you know the nigga who saw the video, the 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.520 TMZ was like one of the security dudes from the club. 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:14.520 I was like, it was all right there in the 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.360 neighborhood that was like a supper club I went to 0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.600 that night Tuesday night. I'm like, even even that nigga, 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.319 I heard the nigga sold the video for like five 0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.280 hundred days, like we would have gave me five thousand. 0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:28.040 That bullshit nigga out there. But it was some good press, though, 0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.200 I like, I do like the good press that you 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.000 get when you get to. 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:32.200 Yeah, but it's that type. 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.480 Is that the first time you realize the power Internet, 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:36.800 or you've been new with the power. 0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.120 That was the first time I realized I was in 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:49.520 my forties, because you can get the right make showed 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.759 the building. I said, dude, I live right there. I said, 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:56.239 you got. I said, I leave this motherfucker here or whatever. Man, 0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.880 just this, I live right there. You know. He's like, 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.040 you gotta blow for me. I'm like, man, I told 0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.360 the nigga, I said, Man, I might not. I was 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:04.080 drinking earlier. 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:05.800 I just was. I told the whole story. I'm like, 0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:06.879 fucking right there. 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:08.759 A lot of times a copy be like, all right, man, 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:10.919 just you know, leave it here, you know, go home, 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:13.640 like you gotta blow. I was like, is that my 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.399 only option? That was the last thing I asked you. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:17.560 You deny it? 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:20.080 I mean, I honestly, that's one of the ones I 0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:24.960 regret because I have some converse low cut the Chuck tailors. Yeah, 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.279 the Chuck Taylors. Yeah, you can't run those, and I 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.440 was I was just mad because I was like, those. 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:30.880 Are like the Kanye West news nigas. 0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:31.960 You can't. 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.120 Yeah, you're running those. It's over for you. 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:37.080 Think I had like another bra still at the spot, 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:38.520 I'm like, I gotta get back. It ain't over. 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.040 It like shit going up. So this is real deal. 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.160 You really have broads, Like wherever every city you go, 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.440 you have broads or you stop that. 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.080 I'm gonna tell you like this. 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.400 At this at this stage in the game, I'm not 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:53.840 trying to be young short dog anymore. 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:56.120 I'm not doing it. I used to go when. 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.480 I go out, I'm like call fee homies, Like you know, 0:53:58.480 --> 0:53:59.120 I hang out a lot. 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.279 Of chicks at like eight teen, we go out. 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:05.960 That was my normal. I might do some like that tonight, 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:07.320 but really, uh tonight. 0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:08.800 Yeah, I mean I'm in Miami. You want me to 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:10.439 hang with you tonight? I want to just see how. 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:10.919 It goes down. 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.080 I'm in Miami, so I'm really not the one. 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:14.960 You've been doing this in Miami for the long time. 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:16.880 But I'm not coordinating the chicks. It's like Miami is 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.719 like you know the girls, they do it they just. 0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.120 Like you've got the girls who coordinate the girls. 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.840 They just they make them hot. Five five for that. 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:30.359 But that's what I'm saying is back in the day, 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:32.560 I would literally get my phone and call like these two, 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.640 those two those to meet me. I did that ship 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.319 up until about three or four years ago. I kind 0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:38.879 of just like chilled it out a little bit. Now 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:40.560 now I might go out with like two or three 0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:43.680 and just you know. Another secret to what I do 0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:46.200 is a lot of guys. They try to fuck all 0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.560 the women. I just try to hang out with them. Man, 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:51.239 just hang out, be cool and shit happens. Be cool. 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:54.279 It's you know, it's the secret weapon for you. 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:56.160 Chartie Skins didn't. 0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:58.960 Secret who else. 0:54:58.760 --> 0:54:59.319 You gotta tell? 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:00.400 Sonny a d B. 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:07.600 He knows about the make some noise for a horny mo. 0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.040 If you we got honing. 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:15.040 Montana, let me call them my group, like crew. 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.880 If you're a horny Montana like if if if you 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:21.080 want to suck everything, you're like me personally. I've seen 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:25.960 a couple of my horny dudes we and bur let 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:33.279 me pronounce this way Berlin, Germany. I've seen my my 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:38.480 homie finger pop a bitch in the butt in the club. 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:41.160 Not in the club, the finger popping in the butt. 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.120 I say, slime, this is not this is I'm uncomfortable 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:49.560 with this situation. I actually can't. I can't partake. He's like, no, 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.359 this is how we're doing it, like in the butt 0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:53.920 in the club. I gotta skill out. 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:55.680 I gotta leave, you know what I mean. 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.080 But there's a lot of horny people. Yeah, so that's 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:00.640 how pimps. 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:03.879 I got a hommy. I got a homy. He uh. 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.520 He was kind of like kind of timid kind of guy. Man. 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.080 It wasn't really like aggressive with the ladies. But then 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:10.640 you know, he kind of he had He's like a 0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:12.319 rock star kind of nigga that kind of wore. 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.120 This like ponytail ship like standing nigga. 0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:16.400 And he wanted to hang out with us one night, 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:18.359 and I was like, dude, you can't. Where are we going? 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.439 You can't get down like that. So we literally set 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:23.600 the niggas somewhere. He was going from Oakland, but he 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:25.759 was passing through. We sent the nigga down to where 0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:27.359 the pimps get their hair downe the ship and got 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.239 him a pimp hair due out of his you know, 0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:33.120 we turned him into like a looking them out, told 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:34.839 the nigga on a certain kind of clothes, and then 0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:35.560 he got to the party. 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:36.800 He's like, still the same nigga? 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:37.600 Like, what do I do? 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:38.320 Still square? 0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.279 I said, a nigga the way you look, just walk 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:47.319 up to every bitch and say, I'm Mike bitch, Mike. 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:49.560 Boris we pivper you up? 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:52.200 Guess we came back and told me at the party. 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.120 Later on, he said, nigga, that ship works. 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.680 Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I hung out with Bishop 0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:01.200 dog Wall for like a whole weekend. He had me gas. Right. 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.239 So what happened was they gave me a famous player card. 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:05.600 You remember the famous player card. 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.120 It was gold. They gave me nine one seven on there, 0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.200 and they asked me to come to the uh Player 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:17.400 player ball. I got there and then I you know, 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.240 I'm on I'm on road for real, like, but I 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:23.120 took two days out of my schedule. I walked in 0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:26.280 the players players ship. It was a white bitch that 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.520 was I'm walking in the white bitch saying, hey, how 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:30.960 you doing? You know me, I don't even know if 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:32.520 she asked me to take a picture. She asked me 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:38.280 something and I said, bit you better play up. I 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.720 definitely didn't know, and she chose me. I said, bit 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.200 you better choose before you know. I don't know why 0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.400 I said that. And the and bishop darl Ma, what's 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.240 my nigga? Juju juju, all of them. 0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:51.760 All of them was trying to knock me. 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.680 They say, you know, and the white bitch kept staying 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:55.880 by me, and I said. 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:56.959 I don't know what I did. 0:57:57.920 --> 0:57:59.600 I don't know what I did. You didn't get the 0:57:59.600 --> 0:58:02.720 minimum and they get the memoir the pimp correctly, and 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.280 then I wanted to pass off, but she really didn't 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:05.919 want to be pad. 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:07.200 You haven't seen that nigga. 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.479 He got about. He always got about five or six holes. 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.160 His bitches got to stare at the ground. They can't 0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:14.720 look up that he now, what about break him down. 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.920 It's kind of funny though, because his bitches sit somewhere, 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.640 even when they sit down the whole china at they 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:22.720 can never look up. They have to look at the ground, 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:24.520 and they be sitting there talking to each other. And 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.800 then if you dare, you know, I'm a little crazy guy, 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:31.800 nigg So I just try to funk with him and 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.280 break a little bit and be like how y'all doing. 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:36.720 They can't speak to no outside man nothing, They can't. 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.120 Ever look at sounds crazy. 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.320 That's him out. That's just like you're wearing your jewelry. 0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:41.800 He's wearing it. 0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:42.800 He's showing you his pipping. 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:43.160 He's like. 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:45.200 I could have told him, bitches, to look straight at heere. 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:46.880 I could have told them, bitches just in the circle. 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.720 They woke in the circle down look. 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:50.680 That don't never look up, don't talk to anybody except 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:51.720 me or each other. 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.040 I ain't gonna lie. And that's just this how I 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.160 knew I wasn't ready for pipping because my white bitch 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.720 did that. My white bitch was just like, she wouldn't 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:03.880 look at it ready for said I was pimp Juju 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.160 and pimp and can and they both stepped to me 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:07.560 and say, they said, you're playing. 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.080 You don't know what you're doing right now. 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:11.400 I said, I got to whop me leave on alone, 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.480 and she just kept looking at That's how I knew she. 0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:16.080 Was more pressous. Niggas who pimp and niggas who have 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.320 pimp game and are of it, we do. 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:22.120 So it's a difference pimping and having pimp gag. Because 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.160 I like the way you broke that. 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.360 Having pimp game means that I probably could apply it. 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:28.760 But I'm just I'm doing other ship living is stressful. 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.120 Man, be stressful. Break that down for it short. 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.520 Now you tell you telling the women to do the 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:37.280 stuff she's doing, they are fucking like repercussions to that ship, 0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.000 man like mentally like if its people's heads up. 0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.560 So you can deal with that ship because you're telling 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.560 them to go on the calling and. 0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:45.320 You're saying, don't fuck with nobody with me. So when 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:47.400 every time every emotion she goes through is coming to. 0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:54.120 You, So let me ask you something. After they do that, 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:57.080 they give you the money, do you have to make 0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:58.680 them feel like your girlfriend? 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:00.560 Like they got to feel love? 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:03.160 You gotta do it. You gotta do this ship. Man, 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.400 it's a lot of ship like. If you want to 1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:07.440 really actually your chick, if you want to be a 1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:08.720 boss PM, you have to be focused. 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:09.439 That's what you do. 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:11.920 I've never heard this term because you say boss. 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.560 Yeah, that means you're in control. You on a run 1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:15.120 for a while. 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.240 You got you can go to another statement. She's still you, 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:19.520 still the boss pimp. 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:21.320 And you know they call that long range pimping. You 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.280 pull her anywhere. Hold on, let's make some hold on 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:30.680 long range. I heard a long range five. You're homie 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:32.960 over there. I be like long range Niga. 1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:36.720 In Hawaii. You fly back to la and you come 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:39.480 back three months later, and she got like forty seven 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:43.640 thousand and just be like here. She didn't protected the money, 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:45.200 she didn't protected herself. 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:47.520 And now now do you have to have sex with 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:48.520 these women or. 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.320 You just you could just so this this is where 1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:52.040 I get fucked up. 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:54.560 Break it down for me, sure, because I'm gonna let 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:56.520 call it now. 1:00:57.200 --> 1:00:59.640 I'm always I've always considered myself to be a pimp 1:00:59.680 --> 1:01:00.000 and a player. 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:01.600 I do have the pimp game, but I. 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:04.560 Don't what is the difference been pimping a player player? 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:05.880 You just you got the game to just run a 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:07.760 bunch of chicks, but you don't want any interest in 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:08.880 their money or them selling that. 1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:11.480 You're just a player. You just play, Okay, play the game. 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:14.600 You get money, you're getting you get you're getting slid. 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:18.200 Actually yeah, okay, So I consider myself to be a 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:19.800 pimp player. Man, it's just like you know, I don't 1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:21.920 really Yeah, we don't have to. 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:23.680 Sure, I'm not gonna lie. 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.520 You made me pop my collar like seventeen hundred times, 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:27.680 and I'm gonna keep popping. 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:30.960 We'll put that back. You know, if you got to 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:32.280 really get a lot of games, just play it back, 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:32.720 listen to it. 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:34.640 It's you know, isn't it the game? 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:37.760 Like you really studying? It goes by married I am, 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:40.960 I'm gonna lame. I'm sorry, but but in my mind, 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:42.960 I'm gona try to be a pimp, like every time 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:44.920 I go to sleep, like, yeah, I'm gonna try to. 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:48.040 But we are we are all always students of life. 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:51.120 We are we get down, always learning, We always learning. 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:56.040 You know what I was gonna tell you by my uh, Dominicans. 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:00.520 Puerto Rica is just the case you go Dominican. 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:01.120 But it's okay. 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:04.320 It's a New York story, man, Okay, in New York, 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:07.880 let's do it. Let's do it. But I was you baby, 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:10.680 Dominican Republic. I had a little New York too. 1:02:10.680 --> 1:02:14.320 I had a little running in with the with the 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:16.440 the hip hop hoies. Niggas hit me, hit me up 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:20.040 in the taxi cabs and uh and just a nigga 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:21.760 had like we had a strap in the car and 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:23.680 we had a like a little answer weed. 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:24.479 We used to go up town. 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:27.080 We used to go up to the candy shop in Harlem, 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:27.920 hu and you know, get the. 1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:31.000 They gonna call it the candy shop. You know what 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:32.800 you talk. We used to get to the good that 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:34.040 good jo. 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:36.880 In the Jaws or in the motherfucker try and go bang. 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:40.800 Look at your hold on with Eddie, God bless the 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:44.160 day you know he died, did Eddie looked? 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:47.320 First off? Let me just let me just stop too 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:47.920 short right now. 1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:51.120 He just flousht onto everybody on a real New York 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:54.480 This is the in the real New York Times. He 1:02:54.680 --> 1:03:03.520 just mentioned Branson. What you said daytime in Branson, Eddie, Eddie, 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:04.720 that's who run the spot. 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:08.200 That was my nigga. Continue the story. 1:03:08.400 --> 1:03:10.600 So you know we we uh, we're riding around the 1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:13.200 ship and the niggas pull us over in these fucking 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:17.280 taxi cabs. None of them got on uniforms. They fucking 1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:21.040 flashing badges and ship. They actually take us out, put us. 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:23.120 It's four niggas in the truck. They put each of 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.680 us in a different cab and I get in there 1:03:25.840 --> 1:03:29.400 like three niggas in each cab. They jump in my truck. 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.680 Drive the motherfucker and we go to like some thirty 1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:36.200 seventh Street precinct, some ship somewhere thirty six thirty seven 1:03:38.000 --> 1:03:42.120 and and uh and the nigga ended up basically, a 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:43.760 nigga ended up at a center street. This was a 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:49.720 one street down there, and I passed by. 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:52.840 H you was in the real first off, right Now, 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:55.320 if they lock you up up there, they have apprecing 1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.800 they bring you to. That means that back in the days, 1:03:57.920 --> 1:03:59.520 they had to lock you up up there and bring 1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:01.400 you yeah way down. 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:04.320 So yeah, we're in there is about the day and 1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:05.640 a half of the day, and then they got bail 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:09.439 out a little later. But I walked by this one 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:14.760 holding tank and I've seen these jet jet black ass niggas, 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:18.400 like black ass nappy head niggas in there, and they're 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:21.600 all speaking Spanish, and I just was like that ships 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:22.560 weird to me to fuk out. 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.720 I didn't know you thought they was black. I didn't. 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:31.480 On the West Coast, we got no nappy. 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:35.080 Head don't have many much yesterday. 1:04:35.600 --> 1:04:39.400 Yesterday's black under me, we don't have nappy had niggas. 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:42.440 I get back up, I get out of jail and 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:43.960 go to the jive records. I was like, I've seen 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:48.240 the weirdest ship in the jail, niggas speaking Spanish with 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:52.280 down here dominicuss. 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:51.760 That's fact. 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:56.880 Too short makings. 1:04:55.560 --> 1:05:02.760 Got hold on. After that, After that, I made a point. 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:04.560 I said, I'm gonna meet some of these Spanish niggas, 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:08.800 like for real. I met the Dominican niggas right at 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.000 the gas station and they popped at me on some 1:05:11.160 --> 1:05:13.880 uh we know you made you too short, you know, 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:15.640 random ship that happens in New York. I don't get 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:17.240 spotted a lot back then, back in the day in 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:20.400 New York. And uh, they said that they got to 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:24.560 get weed, and they sent me up to I don't know, man, 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:28.160 I just you know you like Dyke, like one hundred 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:29.160 and eighty fourth Washington. 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:32.240 Was yeah, I up. 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:34.440 And then basically if I wasn't going to Branson, I 1:05:34.480 --> 1:05:36.200 was going up there, but I spoke I just hang 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:36.880 out New York. Last. 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:39.520 Let me tell you something. This This is not a 1:05:39.520 --> 1:05:42.720 lot of listen. Listen, well he just broke down for you. 1:05:43.760 --> 1:05:46.080 There's people in New York who couldn't get weed in 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:48.960 Branson because you have to have a certain type of 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.040 plug to be accepted. You have to be accepted in Branson. 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:56.760 One time I went Branson. Redman was back there serving 1:05:56.880 --> 1:05:57.240 the weed. 1:05:57.320 --> 1:05:59.480 That was my sponsor. That's what that gave me my plug. 1:05:59.480 --> 1:05:59.800 Red Man. 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:06.200 Well, let's make some noise from red Man. Damn it. 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:09.960 One time she took me there, I was like, you 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:11.360 know what I mean, I'll tell you one time I 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:12.080 went to Branson. 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.160 I'm gonna keep it real with you, too short. 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:16.760 It's one of my idols. It's gonna hurt me to 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:20.440 tell a story, but I'm gonna tell a story. I 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:21.040 went up there. 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:22.960 It's the Porto Rican de Beat. I'm Puerto Rican. 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:27.160 I'm sorry half I'm half Puerto Rican, but I'm just 1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:29.200 giving you. But you know, yeah, thank you, thank you, 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:32.840 thank you. So but this day I'm Puerto Rican, right. 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:35.640 So I go to Brands and I bought my ship. 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:38.680 Bobby Brown pulled up in the six hundred binds. To me, 1:06:38.840 --> 1:06:42.520 it was like Prince when he pulled up, purple smoke 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:46.800 pulled out. It was a six hundred bins. I was like, damn, like, 1:06:46.880 --> 1:06:49.600 you know, I know niggas got six hundred bins, but 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:53.400 I ain't actually seen it. Bobby Brown pulls up right, 1:06:53.600 --> 1:06:56.680 bro t, Yes, what's up, nigga? So he pulls up 1:06:56.720 --> 1:07:00.840 Boom Bobby Brown. So he goes in said, I'm sitting 1:07:00.840 --> 1:07:05.720 there like, oh ship, Bobby motherfucking Brown. He looked at 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:08.680 me though. He looked at me like this, like like 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:12.320 I'm right here. He looked at me like this, and 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.920 then he going Branson right, I'm like, damn, niggas is 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:17.160 like you're supposed. 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:18.280 To say, ha, Like I don't know. 1:07:18.320 --> 1:07:21.040 The nigga eyes is right next to my chat right. 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:23.760 Bobby Brown comes out and then he goes, yo, it's 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:25.120 the porte Dave read right. 1:07:25.400 --> 1:07:27.760 I think me pon Joe. 1:07:27.800 --> 1:07:29.840 We all on the float this day, but I had 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:32.200 took a break afterwards. I finished what we had to do, 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:34.479 and I went up to you, and then Bobby Brown 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:37.360 said to me, this is mad racist, by the way. 1:07:38.120 --> 1:07:41.480 He said for me. He said to me, ain't you 1:07:41.560 --> 1:07:43.280 Puerto Rican? I said yeah. 1:07:43.440 --> 1:07:44.560 He said, you ain't got no cold. 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:53.400 Cor I was like, you gotta. 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:56.360 You gotta realize in New York City, if you're from 1:07:56.360 --> 1:07:58.080 New York City, it's a couple. There's a couple of 1:07:58.160 --> 1:08:01.280 us here. When the porter we they parade shut down 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:05.320 like uptown to the right and shut down too, because 1:08:05.360 --> 1:08:08.840 they all over there and so when they went there, 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:11.360 I guess Bobby went there. He couldn't he couldn't get 1:08:11.400 --> 1:08:15.000 nothing from the coke spot. So he said, is your 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:15.600 Puerto Rican? 1:08:15.600 --> 1:08:18.040 And I'm like yeah, He's like, take me. 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:20.640 Over there, and I was like, damn, why why do 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:22.920 you think I could get you the coke because of 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:23.679 Puerto Rican. 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:25.080 Let's make a noise, body. 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:25.240 Brown for. 1:08:28.680 --> 1:08:29.719 The positive side of that store. 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:31.000 The positive. 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:32.080 I mean, he's who was he with? 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:33.960 He was with his security. 1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:36.240 Okay, Well, I know I know the nigga sometimes and 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:39.120 be like without security with that same bands riding up 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:44.720 in any motherfucking hood an that nigga, Bobby takes a 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:46.840 certain cloth to be that kind of nigga, to be 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:48.040 that kind of nigga, Know what I'm saying. 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:50.599 You said, come on with you? 1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:53.639 Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm luckily for God to bad because 1:08:53.680 --> 1:08:56.200 this is my hero. Like you know, I'm younger because 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:59.800 I'm younger at this especially twice already, Bobby Brown. Listen, 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:03.320 we by ground where we had him. Wherever you at, 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:06.559 we need you two shortest in the head. Man. 1:09:06.680 --> 1:09:09.759 I'm telling Bobby's a classic man. Bobby, He's a classic. 1:09:09.840 --> 1:09:10.960 He's always been my nigga. 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:15.240 I remember when Jou was actually from the video h 1:09:15.479 --> 1:09:19.880 when John and Boby Brown and I actually I was 1:09:19.920 --> 1:09:20.360 in l A. 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:21.559 He was at that video. 1:09:21.760 --> 1:09:22.800 No, I wasn't at the video. 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:29.120 He was held the video the ecstasy video that's called 1:09:29.120 --> 1:09:30.280 the video. 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:37.640 Ecstasy was ruling ship at one points. Let's make a 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:38.720 noise that. 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:41.960 Everybody, white girl. 1:09:45.360 --> 1:09:46.320 Listen, shut man. 1:09:46.439 --> 1:09:49.439 I really appreciate you for coming out being a great sport. 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:51.560 Are you going to read the champagne with us? And 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:52.719 I keep it hard? 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:58.040 Pauls? What are you doing? What is that my time 1:09:58.160 --> 1:09:58.439 for now? 1:09:59.280 --> 1:09:59.760 My time? 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:02.360 We switched it a little. It's just a little regulars. 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:02.759 We switched. 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:07.200 I want to have one with Short excuse me, shout outside. 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:09.320 You know you got you got the other. 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:14.360 We got recognized my brother. 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:16.599 We gotta shot the slow pope man for making this happen. 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.360 Can we get two and bineapples? Cause I gotta have 1:10:20.960 --> 1:10:24.840 a drink with ah. But you got close to pineapple 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:26.320 like apple? All right? 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:29.080 It works for me, so too, Short Man. 1:10:29.840 --> 1:10:32.840 You've been coming to Miami for a long time with 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:35.000 Miami to Luke stories No two life. 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:38.080 Yeah, I look man, I've been on I've been on 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:42.200 the goddamn Luke's peep show twice. I mean back in. 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:43.280 How can I be downadays? 1:10:44.400 --> 1:10:46.680 But how did you feel when Luke they tried to 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:49.200 parent your advisor to him because you had to be 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:50.080 right behind him. 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:51.599 If they would have did that to you know him, 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:54.280 that to you. 1:10:53.520 --> 1:10:55.160 You know, just like you said, you see me walking 1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:57.040 through smooth. I walked through that ship, real smooth. They 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.160 never came at my door. They suck with the n 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:02.559 w A. They fuck the ghetto boys. They they never 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:05.200 they never hollered at me. 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:12.160 I don't make too short for escaping. I couldn't remember. 1:11:12.360 --> 1:11:15.600 They never like, what's what's the chick name that that 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:18.879 tupac tip. 1:11:20.640 --> 1:11:21.000 She was? 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:21.360 She was? 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:23.160 She was trying to shut down and never had my 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:23.800 name on the list. 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:26.200 They were talking about the ship I was doing, which 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:28.040 if they would have passed some laws they probably would 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:28.519 affected me. 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.000 But I know, think about. 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:34.559 This, What do you think about the fact that that 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:35.320 ship could. 1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:35.800 Have actually happened. 1:11:35.800 --> 1:11:36.840 What if it had been like we live in the 1:11:36.840 --> 1:11:38.479 country where they said you can't cuss on your rep 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.160 socks crazy. 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:42.280 I would have existed. 1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:44.320 We would have never existed. 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:47.080 I would have never I think about it. It would 1:11:47.080 --> 1:11:48.720 have been like bootleg and liquor. We would have been 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:50.280 out there in the streets slanging dirty raps. 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:53.200 It would have been more expensive, maybe make more money. 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:54.480 It had been money. 1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:56.960 Prohibition straight up. 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:03.760 And you still, I just wanted to ask you this 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:08.160 question before we wrap it up. Still actually loved this life? 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:09.240 I swear to God. 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:10.320 You see his face? 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:13.760 Man, You still like did you? 1:12:13.760 --> 1:12:16.559 You never fell in love with this life out of love? 1:12:16.600 --> 1:12:19.640 Excuse me, I'm gonna tell you like this, man, I 1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:21.280 ain't really like to you. 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:23.200 With the jail and all that. Like you, you just 1:12:23.240 --> 1:12:25.759 came home like that was only jail five weeks. Nigga, 1:12:26.600 --> 1:12:27.160 Just make no noise. 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:33.200 You used to go to jail five weeks, but you're 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:33.880 still going to. 1:12:33.880 --> 1:12:37.080 You Okay, you know what. I didn't go to jails, 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:40.120 young nigga. I was a nigga, was jet. 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:44.160 You went to jails, grown ass man, and how I 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:45.040 was your bunkies. 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:48.639 They had to be like too short, watch out? Too short? 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:49.040 Is yead? 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:51.880 You gotta go look my nigga up. The nigga that 1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:54.479 was next to me, Uh, he's uh. He's got a 1:12:54.600 --> 1:12:56.760 high profile case in l A. They call him the 1:12:56.760 --> 1:13:02.280 grim Sleeper that doesn't even sound right, sounds dangerous. Just 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:05.760 break down the great sleep extremely polite brother intelligence talk 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:06.000 to you. 1:13:06.560 --> 1:13:11.599 Those are the dangerous guys. Whatever, the guys respectful. 1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:14.599 Nigga showing how to cook with just some hot water 1:13:14.640 --> 1:13:15.000 and ship. 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.719 You know you know what I mean, we would We wouldn't. 1:13:17.760 --> 1:13:19.439 I was in the fire with the celebrity ship though, 1:13:19.439 --> 1:13:22.519 where you can't Nick can't actually walking up. 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:27.599 On you and ship. I was just chilling. But talk 1:13:27.640 --> 1:13:30.960 about that guy. Don't get me up. I just gave 1:13:30.960 --> 1:13:33.680 you and and and he he he was. 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:36.880 It was only he was only because he was because 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:37.879 he was high profile. 1:13:38.400 --> 1:13:39.880 Yes, that's what the high profile person. 1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:42.080 That's what I was saying. I was in the same spot. 1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:44.720 Sugar Knight was that, but previously with me to get 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:45.800 in there. 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:47.719 There was a room with Sugar Knight trying to sign 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:51.280 you at one point to sign everybody. 1:13:51.880 --> 1:13:54.519 Tell me about that shot before you leave from the 1:13:54.520 --> 1:13:55.040 bag too. 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:55.760 Yeah. 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:57.960 Yeah, they put me in jail. Chris Brown was a 1:13:58.120 --> 1:14:00.320 ship that was in that jail. It was just Joe 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:03.160 get TV right in front of you sell just you know, niggas, 1:14:03.160 --> 1:14:07.519 nobody fuck with you. But Sugar Knight came to me 1:14:07.680 --> 1:14:09.559 like he came to everybody else, Well, I'm doing my 1:14:09.600 --> 1:14:11.840 own thing. I'm independent. You know, I never I never 1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:14.680 had a boss. I've never been signing nobody. And uh, 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:21.240 he just said, he said the West Coast is he said, 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:23.160 Death Row is home to the West Coast. 1:14:24.520 --> 1:14:25.559 I know where this is going. 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:28.679 It's like, I'm like, show you know you knew it 1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:31.160 was going to So he's like, he's like, man. 1:14:31.200 --> 1:14:31.920 Come on over to differ. 1:14:31.960 --> 1:14:32.960 I'll get you off jibe. 1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:34.880 How long didst you just said that one more time? 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:35.519 How you said it? 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.240 Come on over to death Roll. 1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:43.439 The wars that everybody he said, come on over to 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:44.000 death Roll. 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:45.960 So you know I ain't I'm not a scary nigga 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:48.479 because I with some real niggas that we know that 1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:50.320 we have no reason to be scared. And then. 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:55.240 I'm a smart nigga. But where's this at. We're in 1:14:55.320 --> 1:14:57.360 the fucking nightclub in Atlanta. 1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:01.240 And wait, Sugar was in Atlanta and you was running 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:02.400 the land at that time, because. 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:05.080 Was the worst person. I was a factor in the city. 1:15:05.120 --> 1:15:05.320 I was. 1:15:05.840 --> 1:15:09.560 I said, come on over to death Yeah, and it 1:15:09.680 --> 1:15:11.200 wasn't me. It wasn't me being a bully. He was 1:15:11.240 --> 1:15:13.040 saying this ship like two niggas talking. He was like, 1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:15.559 you know, man, actually a cool dude that he was being. 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:17.639 I could see it that it was like a push 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:19.519 kind of because the actually kind of probably put a 1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:21.519 little weight, like you know, it didn't it didn't. It 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:23.400 wasn't no kind of threat, but he kind of like 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:25.720 I felt a little weight. It was like at the 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:28.519 time he said it, like so he's kind of pushing 1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:30.479 up on me a little bit, but in a friendly 1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:34.320 kind of way. And I just said, I was like, man, 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:36.960 I ain't trying. I ain't trying to wrap no more. Man, 1:15:37.080 --> 1:15:38.880 I'm starting to lave. I'm about to do my label. 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:40.960 I'm right now, I ain't trying to wrap no more. 1:15:41.600 --> 1:15:44.560 But you know, that was like nineteen ninety five or 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:45.040 some ship. 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:49.719 It's because I also heard jay Z try to sign 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:50.160 you too. 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:53.280 Jay never tried to sign j J just would always 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:54.360 call me to do some work with him. 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:57.439 Oh yeah, so that room was false. He never tried 1:15:57.439 --> 1:15:57.800 to sign me. 1:15:57.840 --> 1:16:00.800 I probably would have probably probably would have went that 1:16:00.880 --> 1:16:03.360 route because just you know, just to be around that. 1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:06.840 They respect you like a mother fer everybody respect you short. 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:08.920 Just in case you don't know, let me let me 1:16:09.040 --> 1:16:11.760 just let me just tell you you are well respected, 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:13.560 well connected. 1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:16.240 We love you on the. 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:19.439 East Coast to the West Coast to round Man, we 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:23.759 walked that down south. You are a guy who laid 1:16:23.800 --> 1:16:26.960 out the platform for all of us to do it. 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.360 You're still as cool as hell. I can't believe how 1:16:29.439 --> 1:16:29.960 cool you are. 1:16:30.479 --> 1:16:31.080 A motherfucker. 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:33.760 I'm gonna be honest. When the interview is old, I'm 1:16:33.800 --> 1:16:35.040 just gonna ask you, how can I be. 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:36.920 As cool as you? That's all I want to do. 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.679 Like, I want to ask you because you're the coolest guy. 1:16:40.400 --> 1:16:44.559 You like how you do that like and you still 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.120 love the game. I got to keep asking you in 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:51.120 different ways, like why would you the guy that say 1:16:51.240 --> 1:16:52.400 teller man hip hop? 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:54.600 I told you iceed to been a studio with the 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:58.080 og is my first studio experience with some old professional niggas. 1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:00.280 And these niggas had some of them, you know, it 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.559 was in it some of them that came and went 1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:04.280 and you know they talked about to days and they 1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:05.960 toured the world and they was in the van or whatever, 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:09.320 and the niggas said. One of the niggas was one 1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:10.800 of the members of the Dramatics. He was one of 1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:12.760 the niggas. But he was one of the niggas that 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:16.000 got kicked out the group, and he experienced a few 1:17:16.120 --> 1:17:18.600 hit records and and you know, Nigga tour and then 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:21.400 he and then the ship left him and he was like, man, 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:24.560 he was like, dude, whatever you do. He was like, 1:17:24.640 --> 1:17:27.519 he said, I feel like you're gonna be somebody to you. Yeah, 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:30.280 he was like, whatever you do, you make it. He said, 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:32.720 don't forget to have fun. And I kind of like 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:35.080 took this ship life. I just kind of like took 1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:37.240 that ship and kind of adapted it in my own 1:17:37.320 --> 1:17:40.680 way that Okay, we're going on our first tour. You know, 1:17:40.800 --> 1:17:43.439 niggas is out there deep deep and ship niggas is 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:47.439 out there complaining, fucking you know. I mean, we love 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:50.559 l LL but LLLL used to not talk to rappers. 1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:53.439 Nigga didn't want to be friends with you. I'm talking 1:17:53.479 --> 1:17:55.040 about it. I don't get a worry. It was from 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:56.880 niggas like I don't like rappers. He wouldn't hang out. 1:17:56.960 --> 1:18:01.559 I've been on tours all Oh my god, huge, Yeah, nigga, 1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:03.280 he would have. He had it rigged so that he 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:05.120 could get from his dress room to the stage. You 1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:06.840 couldn't even see you wouldn't even see him. The he 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:10.320 was had different ways of getting there and ship man. 1:18:10.960 --> 1:18:12.879 But I'm just saying I just I was the opposite 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:14.360 of that type of ship where I just was like, Man, 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:17.360 I'm about to go and everybody's dressing room, We're gonna smoke, 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:18.680 We're gonna chop all. You know what I'm saying. 1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:21.599 I'm fucking with everybody you know that's been a room 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:22.960 about you is like Nigga. 1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:26.280 I used to used to do a show fifteen thousand 1:18:26.360 --> 1:18:27.439 motherfuckers in the crowd. 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.439 I would get off stage and then I. 1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:32.000 Was on tour, like the first time I went on 1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:35.080 n w A, the one in the movie Straight Up Tomorrow. 1:18:35.200 --> 1:18:37.400 Let's break that down because you can't. You're saying it 1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:43.240 very obviously, but he said it so too cool. He 1:18:43.320 --> 1:18:47.479 said that one of the listen, listen, this is this 1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:53.880 is crazy. This set hot that whole era you was 1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:56.360 on that tour. I'm the group that went on right 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:59.479 before n w A. That's was like, let's go on 1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:01.560 to you. That's amazing. 1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:07.559 Street right there. 1:19:07.960 --> 1:19:10.439 You make me forget my story down. You went on 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:14.479 to all with n w A. Way that was your 1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:15.320 first you know. 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:17.160 He was talking about how you interact with the crowd. 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:19.640 Yeah, I'm telling I used to go on stage do 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:22.680 my show fifteen twenty thousand motherfuckers, and right after I 1:19:22.760 --> 1:19:24.679 get off stage, I grabbed one of the homies because 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.960 if you bring too many for you bring security or something, 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:29.639 you're gonna cause the cause of fuss. Right after the show, 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:31.559 in between my show and n w A, I will 1:19:31.600 --> 1:19:33.880 walk through the whole fun crowd, lights on and walk 1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:34.360 through people. 1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:37.080 You know, back then, niggas didn't have no camera phone, niggas. 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:40.280 Nigga nigga have a pen. Niggas just would like just 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:43.479 be like man, you know, to hey, what's up? And 1:19:43.600 --> 1:19:46.000 I just I just want to give your people will 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:48.200 say what are your security? I'm like you my security, nigga. 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:50.600 He's gonna do something to me, like you know, you 1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:52.760 know Reggie them did that ship and keep mrried Red 1:19:52.840 --> 1:19:55.120 manig that niggas was security nothing. 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:57.320 They just walk around any fucking crowd. 1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:58.200 I do the same ship. 1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:01.800 I just tested out that I've never no but short 1:20:02.280 --> 1:20:06.920 you was a like a king man of a whole coast. 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:11.439 It's different and you still to this day walk around 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:12.120 the same way. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:16.040 It's because it's the love. Man, It's the love you 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:19.640 be somewhere, and that love that makes a noise for 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:24.040 the love you be somewhere. And somebody said, hey, man, 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:27.120 you did you did something something. You made a song 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:30.600 with my little brother and love something something, just you 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:32.479 made a song with my little brother. Some random mass 1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:35.040 rappers somewhere, niggas like Nigga, all these niggas over here, 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:37.479 these my niggas. You getting here right because I made 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:38.400 a song with his little brother. 1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:39.720 So we're good that night. 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:42.360 Now, you've always been good, mister lord. I don't know 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:44.560 what kind of well, I don't know what kind of 1:20:44.640 --> 1:20:48.599 deal you may with God, but listen, I don't care 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:50.200 where neighborhood is at. 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:51.600 It's to pay for philosophy. 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:54.160 Man. You gotta pay it, you leave it. But you 1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:56.240 learned a lot of shit in life. I'm just talking 1:20:56.240 --> 1:20:58.600 about the knowledge. I'm talking about material things. I'm just 1:20:58.640 --> 1:21:00.640 talking about the knowledge. You got to give it to 1:21:00.760 --> 1:21:03.840 everybody who deserves it. Man, you learned a lot of ship. 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:06.320 I feel like niggas could have gave me a lot 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:08.800 of you know, shortcuts could have helped me when I 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:09.519 was a young nigga. 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:12.479 You know they didn't help you, so now you want 1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:13.200 to help other people. 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:15.880 You know some people didn't help you. Gotta you're gonna 1:21:15.880 --> 1:21:18.000 have this live and learn ship. Everybody gotta go through 1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:19.280 their journey, but help niggas. 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:21.720 Then this past a little bit. I think we gotta 1:21:21.760 --> 1:21:22.880 make a noise for help niggas. 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:29.240 Help mother fucking niggas. Man, listen, and you know what, 1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:33.640 short it's such a great guy yo. When you was 1:21:33.720 --> 1:21:36.840 on job, I believe you called me. I did a 1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:39.120 record with you for your album. Correct, I forget what's 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.720 your name of the album? I forget. 1:21:44.320 --> 1:21:47.520 That talk about it has on point. 1:21:50.880 --> 1:21:52.720 Job you can't with us. 1:21:56.479 --> 1:21:57.200 He just came home. 1:21:57.960 --> 1:22:00.479 So you just like with street niggas because I how 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:02.000 did you know the fuck with me? Because I was 1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:03.280 a foul nigga at that time? 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:04.400 You still I might have. 1:22:04.439 --> 1:22:07.280 Been I might have been platting them, but I was 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:08.280 a foul nigga. 1:22:08.520 --> 1:22:11.120 Point the point of the song was niggas who niggas 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:13.000 who are reptible in their area. 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.760 Right just just and it was like, you know because 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:17.800 I was so I was, I was so honored, but 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:19.240 I was like, do you know him? 1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:22.360 Because you might shoot somebody when I leave him. 1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:24.519 You can't make you can't make a statement. You can't 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:25.760 fuck with us. If there's no us. 1:22:26.560 --> 1:22:30.400 You five far you knew, man, knew what you doing. 1:22:30.400 --> 1:22:32.320 And then Pat Bottle did the jail time. 1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:35.320 Like this is I know in in North Carolina where 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:37.559 he's from, the city rides with them and look at 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:40.000 that nigga the city. 1:22:40.120 --> 1:22:41.600 I have done concerts. 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:43.439 Like you know, you go to a city probably like 1:22:44.120 --> 1:22:45.840 hour and a half two hour driving where you're from. 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:48.040 I have done concerts and took them there, all of 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:48.680 Oakland with me. 1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:52.320 We show up a thousand deep and they're like, uh, 1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:54.439 like you know, nigga, were all coming in. 1:22:54.880 --> 1:22:58.120 Motherfucker, motherfucking we do that, still do that to this day. 1:22:58.360 --> 1:22:59.040 We did this day. 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:02.240 I'm a niggas like that. They asked me how many 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:04.200 I got. I'll be like fall And then when I 1:23:04.280 --> 1:23:07.160 show up and be like four hundred like I said fall, 1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:11.840 I said fall, yeah, four hundreds like yeah, but too short, man. 1:23:11.920 --> 1:23:14.880 I can't thank you enough. Just coming out sitting down, 1:23:15.479 --> 1:23:17.400 you know, being a great sport about it or this 1:23:17.600 --> 1:23:20.800 is about it, just hip hop fans getting to understanding 1:23:20.840 --> 1:23:23.720 and and and and hear these stories. But before you 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:26.880 go I want to say, how did you eat forty 1:23:26.960 --> 1:23:32.080 ever ahead hook up? Because he's another yeah, yeah, yeah 1:23:32.479 --> 1:23:34.200 legend forty. 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:36.679 And because that's that's still your younger homie. 1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:38.479 Yeah, I'm a little I got about a couple of 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.840 two or three Okaya forty and his brother d Shot 1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:45.120 Okay was in the game. They were street niggas, and 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:48.280 you know, they they dabbled, They they they moved the 1:23:48.320 --> 1:23:48.840 way around. 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:50.800 So that's what that wle means. 1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:53.680 You learned something today, Let's make let's know what you'll 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:55.840 learn something today dabbling goddamn it. 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:58.320 But they probably did a little more than Delin. 1:23:58.360 --> 1:23:59.519 That was just playing. 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:03.920 So I was just trying to be a PC, all right, Okay. 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:08.920 So they actually used to do business with my niggas 1:24:08.920 --> 1:24:10.639 who I rode with to this day. My nigga niggas, 1:24:10.680 --> 1:24:11.160 my niggas. 1:24:11.479 --> 1:24:11.760 They was. 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:13.360 They was youngsters getting money together. 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:17.040 So there's a thing in the bay where you kind 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:20.320 of you know, we were over here in Oakland, thirty 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:23.639 miles over in Valayo, these Valao niggas and these Oakland niggas. 1:24:23.640 --> 1:24:25.840 It's like, all right, we're gonna get down together. And 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:29.519 you got a city like Richmond and rich master p can't. Yeah, 1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:31.920 So Richmond Niggas and Oakland niggas, like I don't really 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:32.559 fuck with each other. 1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:33.479 It's like no gang shit. 1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:35.639 But it's just like we're just a little too wild 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:38.040 to be friends because it never turns out good y'all 1:24:38.080 --> 1:24:39.719 two whiles to be friends with us. We two whiles, 1:24:39.760 --> 1:24:42.280 So we kind of try to either avoid each other 1:24:42.439 --> 1:24:46.240 or it's just it's just it's just many right maniacs shit. 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:49.320 So so Valao Niggas and Oakland Niggas always been like 1:24:49.640 --> 1:24:51.600 kind of like sister city type shit. So we the 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:54.400 niggas fuck with us. And E forty was my homie 1:24:54.439 --> 1:24:56.360 forever and ever and ever and ever where. We never 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:59.040 made songs together. Were just homies, were the same. We'd 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:01.439 see each other click. Everybody know each other. I know 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:03.200 all these little brothers, I know his sister, I know 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:05.680 the whole ship. Before we made a song, and we 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:09.000 did a concert one of those radio stations, Summer Jams, 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:15.400 Summer Jam, Summer Jam, and the niggas they had you 1:25:15.439 --> 1:25:18.680 ever heard the Loonies of course? Okay, so the loonies had, 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:27.320 of course loonies, my homies, my young homies who they 1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:29.559 come from the cloth Man. They come from what I'm 1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:31.679 what I'm from the trinkle Down the game. The niggas 1:25:31.680 --> 1:25:33.160 who put out their records with my homie. 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:36.519 They he said, to trinkle down. I don't know what 1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:41.400 that means, but I'm gonna take it. Make it make sense. 1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:42.080 They come from that. 1:25:42.640 --> 1:25:45.800 So so the Loonies had this song called Player Hater, 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:48.000 and they say they was mad at me about this 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:48.719 whole story. 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:49.280 I can't tell you. 1:25:49.360 --> 1:25:51.320 They was mad at me on some on some inside 1:25:51.320 --> 1:25:53.840 ship and they said some ship about me. 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:54.200 The song. 1:25:54.320 --> 1:25:56.840 They said, that's why the town got rid of short 1:25:57.360 --> 1:25:59.280 and they said it a year after I moved to Atlanta. 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:02.000 So they sinuated and start this little buzz that maybe 1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:04.559 the Loonies was like, nigga, you gotta move out of town. Niggas, 1:26:04.680 --> 1:26:05.760 you can't be in Oaklan no more. 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:06.519 Some ship. 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:08.599 So I'm in Atlanta, having the time of my life, 1:26:08.920 --> 1:26:12.960 still mad as fucking this bullshit. So the radio station 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:15.880 is holding what would be the hot ninety seven summer jam. 1:26:16.200 --> 1:26:17.960 It's one of those one o six in Atlanta and 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:21.320 in uh uh, in Oakland and in the Bay. It's 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:24.439 a kb on one O six summer jam. And I'm 1:26:24.520 --> 1:26:27.479 I'm the nigga who the radio station came to when 1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:29.479 they first started doing Summer Jam and said, hey, we 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:31.479 need to like get some urban support. Can you be 1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:33.320 on the show. And I'm like, cool, I'm with you. 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:36.160 So I'm like feeling like this kind of is supposed 1:26:36.160 --> 1:26:37.599 to be my friends. I helped these niggas. 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:38.639 Theiga was a rock station. 1:26:39.240 --> 1:26:41.880 Wow, I turned into an urban station, and they asked 1:26:41.920 --> 1:26:44.080 niggas like me, can you come help us? Went over 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:46.400 the community. So I'm like that shit mean something. And 1:26:46.479 --> 1:26:48.599 they played this record and put in a rotation where 1:26:48.640 --> 1:26:50.400 it said that's why the town got rid of short 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:54.800 one line and yeah. And I'm like, I'm like a 1:26:54.880 --> 1:26:57.040 nigga like this. I'm like, niggas, you don't it's not 1:26:57.200 --> 1:26:59.840 it's zero disrespect. It's not gonna fucking happen. It's just 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:02.439 we don't walk away from the ship. I'm not gonna 1:27:02.479 --> 1:27:05.519 rap about you. So, nigga, something's gonna happen. So I 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.439 called the radio station. I was like, yeah, I'm coming 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:09.559 to the concert. They didn't want me on the show. 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:12.559 Of course, they told me. You know, I moved in Atlanta. 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:14.599 We were kind of like supporting the local artists. Shit 1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:16.320 you moved away. So I'm like, well, I just. 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:18.840 Want to come see the show. They gave me four 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:22.479 sticker passes. Yeah, nigga. 1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:26.280 We rode up there at about sixty niggas, four niggas in, 1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:29.880 one nigga out, four more niggas in, one nigga out. 1:27:29.920 --> 1:27:32.960 He came out with the three passes, three niggas. We 1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:40.439 still do that, yeah, make that's called the line hold. 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:43.880 So before they realized what had happened, we sixty East 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:45.320 Oakland niggas in the concert. 1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:46.320 No authorization. 1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:48.439 We just in there, nigga, and we've been we being 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:52.040 real cool. We ain't got no problem. But it's sixty niggas, 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:55.800 sixty grimy niggas, and I'm requesting shit. I'm like, nigga, 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:57.880 I need for y'all to walk me out on the 1:27:57.960 --> 1:28:00.760 stage and tell the crowd. Me and Loony's gonna tell 1:28:00.760 --> 1:28:03.000 the crowd it ain't nothing, beloved, And we just just 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:05.200 had to happen. And they was like, oh, we're gonna 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.240 do this, this, this and that, and they wouldn't. 1:28:06.880 --> 1:28:10.000 Do it, and I'm like, loonies. The loonies was with it. 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:12.599 They were the little homies. They got to your mouth. 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:14.640 They walked up to us, and they was like, man, 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:15.240 what we gotta do? 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:15.599 Whatever? 1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:17.560 The concert people wouldn't wouldn't. 1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:19.680 Let it happen. I'm like, we got to kill this 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:22.040 motherfucking ship. Ain't nobody telling about the Loonies is my 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:24.439 enemies and were running away. We're gonna just walk out 1:28:24.439 --> 1:28:27.000 and just say it's just love. That's all I wanted 1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:29.160 to tell the people. And it was like, no, I 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:32.479 wouldn't do it. So we had We said that, well, 1:28:32.520 --> 1:28:35.240 let me let us holler at the manager. The manager, nigga, 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:38.560 my niggahs, my niggas, my homie, and we went in 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:40.920 this back room we're supposed to be hollering at one 1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:43.519 of the concert promoters. We back there and then the 1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:46.560 ship get out of hand. Niggas, niggas lumped up the 1:28:46.640 --> 1:28:47.600 Loonies manager. 1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:50.559 A little bit and we didn't know this is where 1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:51.000 it's going. 1:28:52.120 --> 1:28:54.120 So the nigga got lumped up and curled all up 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:55.000 and ship and all this ship. 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:56.400 And it wasn't even really ask for me. 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:58.040 It was just like a blue blue bloom, like, nigga, 1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:02.680 shut up, we heard about mister bullshit. So we walk out. 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:04.920 Now we got the mob. The mob is not satisfied. 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:07.120 They like kind of hungry. And then we walked through 1:29:07.120 --> 1:29:09.479 the crowd and we just like we're not doing nothing 1:29:09.520 --> 1:29:12.599 to nobody, but we're just not happy, and we kind 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:15.080 of moving around, and it just we went and we 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:16.920 went and took a little section. Then you know, like 1:29:17.000 --> 1:29:19.559 you make niggas like just take they shit, we took 1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:21.559 a little section. We're gonna watch the next act. Somebody 1:29:21.680 --> 1:29:24.000 come on the scene. And then everybody that was just 1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:26.840 the powers that be just didn't like what they saw. 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:28.680 They just didn't like it that they just it was 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:31.360 just nervousness, and they canceled the show. They canceled, like 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:33.800 the last two acts they canceled. It must have been 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:36.559 like the Isley Brothers in e forty forty was headlining 1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:40.160 twenty five thirty thousand. You had never met it was 1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:42.920 homiess Oh, we was homemie nigga. I got your number mind, 1:29:43.080 --> 1:29:46.360 that's my nigga. They canceled the show. Wow, forty had 1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:49.240 spent like maybe like you know, a lot of grip 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.000 on some special show he was gonna do with the 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:54.560 big show of the summer, and they canceled it. And 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:56.439 they went and told the nigga we canceled you because 1:29:56.439 --> 1:29:58.160 it's too short now, mind you. 1:29:58.240 --> 1:29:58.639 We wasn't. 1:29:58.960 --> 1:30:01.280 We wasn't fighting, We wasn't Mobby will and fucking with 1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:02.960 the people. We just we just kind of like did 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.960 the little thing in the back back area and left 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:08.679 watching the show. But they're nervous that they couldn't control 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:09.040 the ship. 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:15.639 So but you had had not met E forty prior 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:17.800 to rap, I. 1:30:17.800 --> 1:30:19.040 Knew we forty before we was wrapped. 1:30:19.080 --> 1:30:19.479 I know why. 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:21.400 We early days, the early days, it was just like, 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:23.680 what's up, nigga, Like it wasn't back in the day, 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:26.040 niggas didn't wrap together exactly. 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:27.080 It's make a record with you. 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:27.519 Wasn't. 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.280 That wasn't even an idea, make your album, make my mouth. 1:30:30.800 --> 1:30:32.439 But we just what's up and we hang out whatever. 1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:34.800 We was tired a little bit with d shot shots 1:30:34.880 --> 1:30:39.200 his little brother. That's my nigga, forty forty my nigga. Nope, 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:41.880 the shots forty the click they was in the click. Okay, 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:46.240 So Monday morning comes the radio station. The show was 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:49.080 probably like Saturday and Sunday. Monday morning comes the radio 1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:53.360 station does a fake caller pretending to be too short, 1:30:53.960 --> 1:30:56.719 no way, and the nigga calls up. It's like, Nigga, yeah, nigga. 1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:58.880 Niggas didn't want to let me on stage. Nigga, I 1:30:58.880 --> 1:31:00.720 don't give a fuck if it was forty eight one 1:31:00.760 --> 1:31:02.640 thousand niggas short, don't get him stay no way. The 1:31:02.720 --> 1:31:05.960 niggas calling talked to shit on the morning show start 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:09.439 that this sway was probably going by then okay, cool, 1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:13.000 and they doing this joke. But at the same time, 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:16.080 it's a bitch down there that's the program director or something. 1:31:16.120 --> 1:31:19.240 This bitch is sending out facts and emails saying too short, 1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:22.760 it's violent band, the nigga from raping, don't ever play 1:31:22.840 --> 1:31:24.639 his music, all kinds of shit. 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:26.559 So I'm like trying a black bolly. 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:29.000 So I'm like, I'm taking this shit firstal then then 1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:30.880 the fucking phone rings. I don't even know shit was 1:31:30.920 --> 1:31:31.200 on the air. 1:31:31.400 --> 1:31:33.160 I don't even know. E forty called me. 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:35.599 He was like, Nigga, was you on the radio this morning? 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:37.600 I'm like, nah, nigga. He's like, Nigga, you didn't do 1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:40.679 say such such. I'm like, no, man, So the niggas 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:41.600 like we stand up. 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:44.240 Niggas. Niggas said, so you're telling me you didn't call 1:31:44.320 --> 1:31:44.920 the radio siging. 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:46.600 He said, I said, nigga, I don't know. 1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:48.360 He said, okay, and then he. 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:50.120 Started spinning the game to E forty is a real game, 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.160 dumb nigga. So he started spending these like the radio 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:54.560 stations trying to play games with us, blah blah this that. 1:31:54.680 --> 1:31:57.080 He's like, man, these folks, you know, we started talking 1:31:57.080 --> 1:31:59.280 about how much money he spent on his set. They 1:31:59.320 --> 1:32:01.120 didn't get it to the showing, and they personally told 1:32:01.200 --> 1:32:03.120 him it's two short fault. He was like, man, we're 1:32:03.120 --> 1:32:04.640 not finna turn this in the that because we know 1:32:04.720 --> 1:32:07.200 who we are. Your niggas, mind niggas. We know we're 1:32:07.200 --> 1:32:09.000 not finna do that. We finished, he said, let's get 1:32:09.000 --> 1:32:10.760 in the studio and make some music. We made a 1:32:10.840 --> 1:32:13.840 song called rappers Ball, and it's like that was like 1:32:13.880 --> 1:32:15.519 a big record for that's the first record. 1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:19.200 Ever made, and big record for your city, big record. 1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:21.240 For the Bay. Yeah, it was huge. It went everywhere 1:32:21.280 --> 1:32:26.160 and basically the ship of a you know, corporate type structure, 1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:28.439 motherfuckers in an office room trying to play some real 1:32:28.520 --> 1:32:30.680 niggas against each other kind of made us tighter than 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:32.880 we ever been. And we kind of we were we 1:32:32.960 --> 1:32:35.479 were cool as fuck. But after that we made record 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:38.080 after record after record. We started talking on the phone 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:40.200 every other day. We kind of like walking each other 1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:43.479 through each other's albums and ship. Niggas don't know. We 1:32:43.640 --> 1:32:45.360 was on jive and we never really dropped in the 1:32:45.400 --> 1:32:50.560 same quarter, so we would be like both we'd be 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:53.840 critiquing each other's albums while we're making them. I'm like, yeah, 1:32:53.840 --> 1:32:56.960 you finna hit them hard, niggah. Yeah, And then I'm 1:32:57.000 --> 1:32:58.840 listening to him going, oh shit, I got to get 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:01.320 there go hard because this nigga about about to knock 1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:04.320 me off, you know. So we kind of being friends 1:33:04.400 --> 1:33:06.560 and competitors, we kind of held each other down on 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:09.400 on keeping it keeping that ship hardcore. 1:33:10.160 --> 1:33:12.800 Like wow, So before we get up out of here, 1:33:13.200 --> 1:33:15.000 was you in the session with Big. 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:18.839 When you made the record when the remies in my system? 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:20.640 Ain't no telling that I. 1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:24.000 Was in the room, that he was in the room. 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:26.320 Yeah, that's when his legs was hurting shit, he was 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:29.240 sitting down rapping and ship hell yeah. 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:32.280 And then how about with Jay did y'all sit up session? 1:33:32.800 --> 1:33:34.080 I did that session with Jay? 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:35.280 It was all good. 1:33:35.479 --> 1:33:38.880 Just a week ago I did that ship, I did 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:42.679 the other song up and I was on Uh, Real 1:33:42.800 --> 1:33:45.680 niggas do real things, all the words. I was on 1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:48.400 that show. He really wanted Scarface on that song. And 1:33:48.880 --> 1:33:51.559 and back then them niggas. It was that ship where 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:53.960 the niggas used to love Tupac so much. It was 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:57.240 like UGK and Nigga are niggas. They loved Tupac so 1:33:57.439 --> 1:33:59.280 much to like, Man, I ain't work with nobody from 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:02.000 New York. I just it was just it was, let 1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:04.479 me stop you right there. We love short New York. 1:34:07.800 --> 1:34:08.400 He's trying to be. 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:09.160 Humble right now. 1:34:09.240 --> 1:34:12.479 He's humble. Look, I used to be telling niggas like this. 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:12.760 Man. 1:34:13.200 --> 1:34:15.680 I talked to the niggas car Face all nigga real 1:34:15.760 --> 1:34:17.519 talk back in the day. I'm like, Nigga, go to 1:34:17.680 --> 1:34:20.240 New York. It's gonna take your career to a new level. 1:34:20.520 --> 1:34:23.200 Them niggas fuck with you, and we didn't. We didn't know. 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:25.320 Somebody had to tell you. I say, passed it on. 1:34:25.760 --> 1:34:27.280 I didn't know, Nigga. I'm on the elevator. 1:34:27.600 --> 1:34:30.040 And then Nigga bell hops saying, I ain't never heard 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:31.479 of you, man, Why why you got on Jurey? 1:34:31.560 --> 1:34:31.600 Like? 1:34:31.600 --> 1:34:31.960 Who was you? 1:34:32.320 --> 1:34:33.760 I said, Nigga I'm too short, and now I saw 1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:36.599 the million records. The bell hoped the bell, I mean 1:34:36.680 --> 1:34:40.639 the Hotel New York, like, you know you did, nigga, Wow, never, 1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:42.599 I never heard you could have sw the million records. 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:46.400 This is the crazy shit is you know what side 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:50.080 of you telling? Because we always felt like, you know, 1:34:50.200 --> 1:34:51.320 we showed y'all love. 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:54.040 And I told the bell man, nigga, I do shows. 1:34:54.080 --> 1:34:55.840 The big daddy came that nigga said, now. 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:56.280 I know you like. 1:34:58.880 --> 1:34:59.880 And you did do shows. 1:35:01.120 --> 1:35:07.760 Show is crazy. This monkey is my nigga. Man, that's 1:35:07.760 --> 1:35:10.000 my my homie. Like I was talking a lot of 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:10.439 my fuckers. 1:35:10.600 --> 1:35:11.639 Ja Ja is my nigga. 1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:12.200 That's my nigga. 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:13.400 Like, yeah, that's crazy. 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:14.439 Way back when he. 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:17.080 Was God bless him, God bless him. Your too. Show 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:18.120 got the craziest stories. 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:18.320 Man. 1:35:18.360 --> 1:35:20.200 We just made sup. Let's make some noise for to 1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:21.599 shot man coming out. 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:22.360 Bringing it out. 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:24.639 I was there, you were there. 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:26.320 I told you I just turned fifty. Niggas. 1:35:26.320 --> 1:35:28.400 I know some ship carr Us one totals, he turned 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:30.519 fifty and he pulled on a a off peak card. 1:35:31.080 --> 1:35:34.040 You Bagels and Denny, you got a. 1:35:35.840 --> 1:35:37.320 Let me let me see what kind of car you got. 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:37.960 Let me see what. 1:35:39.680 --> 1:35:41.240 We need. Sonny here where Sonny. 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:45.880 At cannabis card? Goddamn, look at that. 1:35:46.080 --> 1:35:46.479 Look at that. 1:35:46.640 --> 1:35:49.880 That's make some noose for too short being a super smoke. 1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:53.200 Yo. 1:35:53.360 --> 1:35:53.559 Shure. 1:35:54.000 --> 1:35:54.519 This is listen. 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:55.800 I can't thank you so much. 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:59.360 Man, Listen, I can never repay you for this, because 1:36:00.160 --> 1:36:04.120 I don't know if people understand what this is. There's 1:36:04.200 --> 1:36:07.120 people from the Bay Area, there's people from South Central, 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:09.640 there's people from New York that all want to know 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:12.240 your story. And right now, I mean in the hip 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:14.720 hop way, but I say they know your story. But 1:36:14.880 --> 1:36:17.160 in the hip hop way, we're not journalists. We don't 1:36:17.200 --> 1:36:20.320 Google ship. We sit there just a conversation. I'm gonna 1:36:20.320 --> 1:36:21.720 be honest. I don't know the Google, but I do 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:22.880 to get the porn sites. 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:26.519 Just figured that out. Yeah, Hamster, that's it. 1:36:26.680 --> 1:36:26.960 That's it. 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:29.920 But and and we sit here with hip hop legend. 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:32.439 We had carras One sitting right there. This is correct, 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:37.479 that right there was right there. And once some more 1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:39.160 drive records he was on driving the hotel. 1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:43.920 We got Q tip that's coming to the block, give 1:36:44.000 --> 1:36:48.599 records exactly. So I'm bringing it up. Rest in peace 1:36:48.640 --> 1:36:52.479 to five go and I can't thank you enough, my brother. 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:54.679 I really appreciate this. I was so excited. 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:57.559 My brother dj AFN told me, he said, yo, man, 1:36:57.880 --> 1:37:00.479 you know what I'm saying, two shorts coming in. I 1:37:00.520 --> 1:37:02.080 don't know if you felt it when he was on 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:06.439 the phone, but I kept going like this, I heard it. 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:08.200 Where did that come from? Sure? 1:37:08.439 --> 1:37:10.760 Because every time I hear your name, I keep hopping 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:11.160 my collar. 1:37:11.360 --> 1:37:11.960 Is that cool? 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:12.639 Yeah? 1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:15.639 That's that's that's that's a pimp gesture. That's a PM gesture. 1:37:15.840 --> 1:37:20.439 So you like every time if we're not like if 1:37:20.479 --> 1:37:23.640 I'm in like if I'm in like Tucson, Arizona, and 1:37:23.760 --> 1:37:28.320 they say you wanted too short ribs or the older 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:29.160 pars used to wear. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:32.160 This, and I go like this, yeah you're good, I'm good. 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:32.599 I'm good. 1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:35.920 Used to wear suits and ship man, they really used 1:37:35.920 --> 1:37:36.759 to pop their collars. 1:37:37.479 --> 1:37:39.960 They had collars you don't have. I didn't know where 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:41.160 the popping collar came from. 1:37:41.240 --> 1:37:44.320 So you had these certain characters that they the whole 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:46.720 time they talking to you, like a nigga is so clean. 1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:48.680 It just like you know, man, but I was doing this. 1:37:48.800 --> 1:37:50.640 I just like this, not just and they just pop 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:52.439 it and it's just what kind of style you got, 1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:55.200 like they got order to picture and they talk like 1:37:55.240 --> 1:37:58.120 that the whole time. They talk to you when they're 1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:00.920 getting or after they tell up, while the niggas just 1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:04.080 walk up talking to your niggas, talking like my nigga. 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:07.920 My nigga, you have to talk short. Get me right? 1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:11.400 Am I doing the correct? When I doing it? You 1:38:11.880 --> 1:38:15.200 got the one hand pop together? Let me look at you, 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:16.080 let me see you do it. 1:38:16.400 --> 1:38:18.200 You really got to be wearing a collar shirt though, 1:38:18.200 --> 1:38:19.120 you got to pop your collar. 1:38:24.640 --> 1:38:26.280 Tell you something else. I told you. 1:38:26.720 --> 1:38:28.800 I come from a different closet and things with you. 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:30.120 I come from the finesse niggas. 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:30.599 Don't. 1:38:30.800 --> 1:38:34.680 You don't necessarily have to do a lot of exterior. 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:37.519 You're sitting there quietly, you hold a bitch what to do, 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:39.280 and you just sitting there. You don't. 1:38:39.280 --> 1:38:42.720 You don't have to brag on it. You feel me? 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:46.200 Yeah, So I am married those kind of cats. I 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:48.800 took on that style of just not but do they 1:38:48.880 --> 1:38:51.760 pop their caller? You kind of don't. You don't do 1:38:51.880 --> 1:38:54.639 the loud. You don't rhyme, you don't rhyme, you don't 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:56.920 dress too loud. You just kind of like you run 1:38:57.000 --> 1:38:58.320 that game, and you so. 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:00.760 Sure if I could be a temporary pimp for like 1:39:01.000 --> 1:39:02.360 one day, could you coach me? 1:39:03.320 --> 1:39:07.679 I've been telling you all day. I gave you Anthony. 1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:11.599 You know I'll keep trying to changing out. 1:39:11.760 --> 1:39:11.880 Man. 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:15.000 When the bitch chose me, I didn't know what to do. 1:39:15.120 --> 1:39:18.600 After that, I was like, oh, ship, but does the 1:39:18.760 --> 1:39:22.040 chick ever pimped the dudes that happens. 1:39:22.760 --> 1:39:26.240 You will never become a boss pimp unless a bitch 1:39:26.280 --> 1:39:28.280 turns you out first. You could think anything you. 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:29.400 Want, but she got confused. 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:32.680 I let's go like this. 1:39:32.800 --> 1:39:34.840 You never pimped the whole before, and you're gonna and 1:39:34.920 --> 1:39:36.479 you're gonna turn the bitch out for the first time. 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:38.840 So she's just getting turned down. You just getting turned out, y'all. 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:42.559 What the y'all gonna do together? Who never hold the pimp? 1:39:42.560 --> 1:39:44.880 Who never pimped? Somebody got to give you that game. 1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:46.960 You got to go get your feet with the best time. 1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:51.320 Let's make some noise in school. That is real that 1:39:52.200 --> 1:39:53.479 the best time you ever gonna get. 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:53.920 This is the first. 1:39:54.200 --> 1:39:56.200 You might get a little junior house. 1:39:56.200 --> 1:39:57.800 She's like, I do it for you. She might be 1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:04.479 around junior around, but at the first so you're gonna 1:40:04.560 --> 1:40:07.320 knock another You're the new young pimp. You're the new 1:40:07.360 --> 1:40:09.479 young pemp. Youre gonna knock another another niggas bitch, you've 1:40:09.479 --> 1:40:09.960 been getting it. 1:40:10.360 --> 1:40:10.960 She coming over. 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.000 You're like this, bitch I've been having. Ain't never hold 1:40:13.080 --> 1:40:15.000 like this. You got a super hole down, and you're like, 1:40:15.160 --> 1:40:17.640 oh ship when once you got a super hole and 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:19.960 you adapt, you can't go read some of them books. 1:40:20.000 --> 1:40:20.200 Man, You. 1:40:22.160 --> 1:40:24.200 And you sit there and you you ain't never let 1:40:24.320 --> 1:40:25.920 her know that you can't hang with her, but you're 1:40:25.920 --> 1:40:29.160 pimping your way into it. The next hole you get, 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:30.960 you're gonna be harder and harder and harder. Like you know, 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:33.920 you learned some ship from that superhow you learn. That's 1:40:33.960 --> 1:40:37.200 why females teaching the dude. You had the junior hole 1:40:37.240 --> 1:40:38.760 and he was like, she bring me a little something. 1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:40.519 Now you got a super how you like every whole 1:40:40.520 --> 1:40:42.320 after that, you're like, do you fucking know what? Who 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:42.640 it is? 1:40:42.880 --> 1:40:45.639 That's why he gave me a famous player card. 1:40:45.960 --> 1:40:47.000 I wanted to give it back. 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:51.120 I said, you guys are complicated. This is very complicated. 1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:53.200 Your lifestyle is very hard style. 1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:55.200 But the famous player card is not a famous pimp. 1:40:55.280 --> 1:40:55.439 Card. 1:40:55.439 --> 1:40:58.040 It's just for the players, man, because they all know 1:40:58.400 --> 1:41:01.439 it's differences player. They all know I don't really be 1:41:01.520 --> 1:41:02.760 off there trying to pimp holes and ship. 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:07.000 I don't. I never same. She should just from older, 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.280 same way. Let's make it hot five for you, pimp 1:41:09.439 --> 1:41:10.160 polder Stell. 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:11.160 Come on, every. 1:41:16.840 --> 1:41:18.160 This is what happens when you're too short. 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:21.880 I mean, I'm at the club in Las Vegas, hanging 1:41:21.920 --> 1:41:24.360 with my folks at the table. The bitch walks up 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:27.519 to me and hands me like seventeen eighteen hundred and said, 1:41:27.560 --> 1:41:29.600 you're the reason why I'm homeing and walked away. She 1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:31.920 can't tell me her motherfucking name. I didn't even see 1:41:31.960 --> 1:41:33.479 what she gave me to she was out of sight. 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:34.120 I looked. 1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:36.840 I was like, nigga, bitch, just walk had to be this, 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:40.040 and then what did you do to seventeen hundred? 1:41:40.080 --> 1:41:41.320 Le's keep it d We bought that. 1:41:41.400 --> 1:41:42.120 We just we spending. 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:43.680 We gave, we came back, We gave it back to 1:41:45.040 --> 1:41:48.920 keep it together, keep it together, back to you. 1:41:49.400 --> 1:41:50.680 She never introduced her name. 1:41:51.320 --> 1:41:52.880 I couldn't tell you what her face, so I can 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:53.439 never tell you. 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:54.280 I don't even know. 1:41:54.400 --> 1:41:54.880 I don't know. 1:41:56.840 --> 1:41:58.559 Listen, let me tell you we got the legend too 1:41:58.600 --> 1:42:00.560 short in hair. We're gonna lie paid it back to 1:42:00.640 --> 1:42:02.760 the game. Not trying to pimp until the pip came 1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:04.519 to me, wants to peric to me, I turn what 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:05.080 to do with the. 1:42:07.000 --> 1:42:09.080 Niggas? Like, you give me your bit, don't do ju? 1:42:09.439 --> 1:42:12.640 I said, not anybody anybody know enough not to know 1:42:12.760 --> 1:42:15.800 to give them my bitch. Anybody that's listening, I gave 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:18.160 a bitch to like cars. I gave a bitch to 1:42:18.280 --> 1:42:20.599 like like to see or something I throw. 1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:27.040 I'm sorry, anybody that's listening, just remember this. Don't don't 1:42:27.080 --> 1:42:29.040 listen to ship about some pimp rules and ship and 1:42:29.160 --> 1:42:30.920 yeah and think you're gonna wake up trying to be 1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:33.479 a pimp. It's not something that you do. It's not 1:42:33.600 --> 1:42:36.720 something that you adapt to lifestyle. You know, just like 1:42:36.840 --> 1:42:38.360 anything you do, you become an expert. 1:42:38.400 --> 1:42:39.600 You know it's in you. 1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:40.200 It's in you. 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:42.120 Yeah right now. 1:42:42.320 --> 1:42:43.400 I love the art of it, but. 1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:45.679 It's not in me. I don't have powers. I don't 1:42:46.120 --> 1:42:48.240 passion that you see me for for hip hop and 1:42:48.360 --> 1:42:50.600 music in the last show, and I don't have that 1:42:50.680 --> 1:42:51.479 passion for pimping. 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.120 But you have the passion more for hip hop than 1:42:55.680 --> 1:42:57.160 I love the art of the pimp game. 1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:01.040 It's a beautiful thing. If you you know what is 1:43:01.120 --> 1:43:04.960 the best profession after pimping, if you've been a pimp. 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:10.240 Hell no, what I'm saying, thank you. That's what most 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:11.639 pimps do. They started preaching. 1:43:11.880 --> 1:43:16.960 Yeah, preaching that. Yeah, you got listen. The level of 1:43:17.120 --> 1:43:21.679 hustling is being is owning the church. That's the last level. 1:43:23.680 --> 1:43:26.040 I'm not laughing I'm not laughing at Christianity. I'm laughing 1:43:26.040 --> 1:43:26.479 at preacher. 1:43:29.120 --> 1:43:29.360 Listen. 1:43:29.880 --> 1:43:34.920 The real hustler, last hustle is being a preacher. I'm 1:43:35.000 --> 1:43:38.440 just telling you that the preacher's pimping his congregation. 1:43:38.760 --> 1:43:44.200 Who gives a fuck. That's the last levels that well, 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:46.599 I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it to you another way. 1:43:46.680 --> 1:43:49.840 Now, let's say, throughout your life the way you learned 1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:52.120 how to be a pimp was that you figured, I 1:43:52.240 --> 1:43:54.240 have the gift the gap. You told that to yourself, 1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:57.280 The gift, the gabage your main weapon, and pimpings. 1:43:57.439 --> 1:44:00.599 Unless you're a gorilla pimp, you just was the punch 1:44:00.680 --> 1:44:03.320 of facing the big as you as. 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:05.880 You stare in the ugly face of pimping, you see 1:44:05.880 --> 1:44:08.200 a fucking hole die on the job or some ship 1:44:08.400 --> 1:44:11.719 murdered or the junkie hole overdose. Is just the bitch 1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:13.920 life get fucked off and she ended up in prison. 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:15.760 You never see it again, like, you know, just the 1:44:15.920 --> 1:44:18.400 ugly side of this, the ship that the ship that 1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:20.680 fucks you up in the head. You've seen how you 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:22.600 took this little innocent girl who was a waitress. You 1:44:22.760 --> 1:44:25.400 sit and you see what she ended up being, and 1:44:25.439 --> 1:44:27.040 you like, damn, how am I in the eyes of 1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:29.880 God if I did this to her? And you start 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:31.879 feeling like a fucking monster, like it ain't for everybody 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:34.840 in the long run. So what do you do? You 1:44:35.160 --> 1:44:38.000 you fucking step to the light and you go to 1:44:38.160 --> 1:44:40.880 the church and you start really realizing that damn, I 1:44:41.000 --> 1:44:42.920 been walking the wrong path. And then you end up 1:44:42.960 --> 1:44:47.080 being a fucking preacher later. But the main thing is 1:44:47.120 --> 1:44:48.840 why are you a good preacher? Because from day one 1:44:48.920 --> 1:44:51.639 you had to give the gap. You have to get swag. 1:44:54.439 --> 1:44:56.720 It ain't like if a pimp turned preacher. He's not 1:44:56.920 --> 1:44:59.160 he's not being wicked or he's not. He might just 1:44:59.240 --> 1:45:01.400 really have went that path where he looked at that 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:03.400 ugly ship and he saw it and he went the 1:45:03.439 --> 1:45:06.800 other way. So men, some of them might be wicked. Yeah, 1:45:06.840 --> 1:45:08.760 it might be, but I'm just saying that the money 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:10.519 I don't want to be just saying some ship where 1:45:11.200 --> 1:45:13.120 real ship, though that ship gets ugly. I know a 1:45:13.200 --> 1:45:15.439 church boy right now that pimped his ass off, and 1:45:15.439 --> 1:45:16.920 the only reason why he's a church boy because it's 1:45:16.920 --> 1:45:19.240 because of what he saw him pimping fucked him up. 1:45:20.240 --> 1:45:22.160 He's make some noise for the ship that sucked him up. 1:45:26.120 --> 1:45:26.559 This is. 1:45:28.160 --> 1:45:35.200 Yo, yo, follow disclaimer on this ship always wants to disclaim. 1:45:35.320 --> 1:45:36.040 I'm not gonna lie. 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:39.320 If you listen to two shorts, you get pimp tomorrow. 1:45:39.800 --> 1:45:40.400 List listen. 1:45:40.920 --> 1:45:43.320 I fucked up with the bit like, listen, here's a 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:44.120 horrible pimp list. 1:45:45.600 --> 1:45:46.080 Like I went. 1:45:46.280 --> 1:45:49.360 I said, you gotta choose to lose the big ship. 1:45:49.400 --> 1:45:51.439 I chose as soon as he chose me. I was like, 1:45:51.560 --> 1:45:54.560 oh ship, what did I do for? 1:45:54.720 --> 1:45:54.880 Man? 1:45:55.200 --> 1:45:55.640 What did I do? 1:45:55.920 --> 1:45:56.040 Man? 1:45:56.120 --> 1:45:56.840 And I was fucked up? 1:45:56.880 --> 1:46:02.760 Pimp juju kN uh bacher don wong was They was 1:46:02.800 --> 1:46:04.720 all trying to knock my bach. They was like I 1:46:04.880 --> 1:46:07.240 was holding it down because I was like, they can'tkno 1:46:07.320 --> 1:46:09.720 my bach because I see I seen the documentaries, so 1:46:09.840 --> 1:46:11.920 I was like, I'm not gonna knock my bitch. As 1:46:11.960 --> 1:46:15.400 soon as I left, I just left alone and that 1:46:15.560 --> 1:46:17.080 was it, so I knew I can. I can. 1:46:17.240 --> 1:46:20.240 There's two things you gotta do to establish You have 1:46:20.360 --> 1:46:22.680 to you have to get a choosing fee, and you 1:46:22.800 --> 1:46:23.479 have to at least. 1:46:23.360 --> 1:46:25.639 Send me away loosing fee. 1:46:25.920 --> 1:46:26.280 What is that? 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:28.120 That's when she pays you to be with you. 1:46:28.680 --> 1:46:30.760 So you mean to tell me as soon as she 1:46:30.880 --> 1:46:32.920 chose me, I should have bitch a lot of paying 1:46:32.960 --> 1:46:33.760 off a lot of him. 1:46:33.840 --> 1:46:35.960 Set the bar kind of kind of steep if you 1:46:36.040 --> 1:46:37.559 ask me, I don't know. They like, you know, it's 1:46:37.640 --> 1:46:40.479 like five ten racks. I heard five racks I. 1:46:40.439 --> 1:46:40.840 Could have got. 1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:43.559 I could have got if you could have gotten signed 1:46:43.600 --> 1:46:50.360 the short start your phone, man, want to change numbers. 1:46:50.640 --> 1:46:53.000 I was playing the wrong game for a long time. 1:46:53.360 --> 1:46:56.960 You're sure. 1:46:57.080 --> 1:46:58.760 Thank you so much for being a great sport and 1:46:59.000 --> 1:47:02.400 going out here having us man a little. 1:47:03.320 --> 1:47:05.040 I'm just saying, it look like I had care of. 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:06.960 Someone right there. It looks like you're drinking at my tie. 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:11.160 It's it looks like, yo, shut Thank you so much, 1:47:11.280 --> 1:47:15.519 my brother. Easy on the pimping, yas you're gonna get 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:17.559 you responsibly. 1:47:17.320 --> 1:47:17.920 Like I want to. 1:47:18.640 --> 1:47:19.320 I'm gonna pimp. 1:47:19.360 --> 1:47:22.960 I'm gonna pimp like your dogs first before you go 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:24.839 up gonna I'm gonna pimp. 1:47:24.720 --> 1:47:25.360 Like in my mind. 1:47:25.439 --> 1:47:27.920 We'll have Short exact run run me through it in 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:30.559 my mind and then maybe no, I'm never gonna try. 1:47:31.360 --> 1:47:33.719 I'm never gonna try. But at least at least Short 1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:36.559 taught me. Yeah you short man, I really appreciate it. Man. 1:47:36.920 --> 1:47:40.519 Every time a person say how did that happen? Before 1:47:40.520 --> 1:47:45.640 we get out of it, is that word I. 1:47:45.680 --> 1:47:49.040 Showed you how to wrap. Partner Freddie b. So we 1:47:49.200 --> 1:47:51.880 try to do everything that the streets do. In the 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:55.439 streets was doing a lot of drugs. So we used 1:47:55.439 --> 1:47:57.400 to do these little skits before the songs. Is just 1:47:57.520 --> 1:48:00.759 like either acting like gangsters or just slick talking niggas. 1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:02.240 And one of the skids we used to do is 1:48:03.160 --> 1:48:05.519 was about this, uh, this chick who. 1:48:07.120 --> 1:48:07.800 She was a bead. 1:48:08.240 --> 1:48:11.439 So so we pretended like like we're smoking crack cocaine. 1:48:11.520 --> 1:48:14.360 But wait, but this was not crack, but wore crack 1:48:14.400 --> 1:48:16.280 cocaine at one This was not cracked. 1:48:16.920 --> 1:48:18.720 We sprinkled a little bit in the joints, but were 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:21.800 not You did hit that he did, Yeah, this tastes good. 1:48:22.240 --> 1:48:22.400 It was. 1:48:22.479 --> 1:48:25.400 It was crazy. Don't let it take you down. But 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:28.400 look at that stuff so smoking dirty back then, it 1:48:28.600 --> 1:48:31.679 wasn't when we was wrapping the early eighties, it wasn't crack. 1:48:32.080 --> 1:48:34.439 It was called freebasing, and it was only her. It 1:48:34.520 --> 1:48:36.840 was only what rich fly fly people did. It was 1:48:36.960 --> 1:48:40.080 if he was showing off rich motherfucker you free base. 1:48:40.160 --> 1:48:42.519 That was the ship that burned rich prize and that 1:48:42.840 --> 1:48:44.560 that was that was in the pipe, or that was 1:48:44.720 --> 1:48:45.960 that was It was the same thing. 1:48:46.320 --> 1:48:47.800 It was the same thing as the crackhead. It was 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:48.559 smoking the pipe. 1:48:48.600 --> 1:48:50.479 But when it first came out, it came out as 1:48:50.520 --> 1:48:53.439 an elegant thing that only rich people did were about 1:48:53.479 --> 1:48:53.960 to go smoke. 1:48:54.040 --> 1:48:58.240 It was like, this is the upgrade from cocaine. Rich people. 1:48:58.720 --> 1:49:03.040 Freebasing was something that people openly saying, we're freebasing, but 1:49:03.280 --> 1:49:03.920 crack is uping. 1:49:03.920 --> 1:49:05.000 When you turn to crack head. 1:49:05.000 --> 1:49:07.280 That was the same fucking ship, but it just had 1:49:07.280 --> 1:49:09.000 a different hood, different time and era. 1:49:09.400 --> 1:49:11.520 So we used to mimic freebasing. 1:49:11.920 --> 1:49:13.320 So we would sit there and be like, you know 1:49:13.400 --> 1:49:15.920 the bitches like hit I hit this baby, like you know, 1:49:16.080 --> 1:49:17.519 the tap is about to come on the music coming on. 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:18.280 We're doing the skip for it. 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:20.320 Come on like this hit and hitt and say like 1:49:21.560 --> 1:49:24.320 mother fucking choking ship and then uh, like bitch, you 1:49:24.400 --> 1:49:27.160 hitting you smoking too much? And then uh and then 1:49:27.360 --> 1:49:29.880 my man like somebody being there doing the girl voice 1:49:29.960 --> 1:49:31.960 or whatever, and then uh and then it should be 1:49:32.040 --> 1:49:36.360 like the bitch like like bitch like that's where it got. 1:49:36.439 --> 1:49:39.320 We did that skit let's noise for crack making making 1:49:39.439 --> 1:49:39.720 up to be. 1:49:41.680 --> 1:49:42.719 Crack cocaine, get. 1:49:42.680 --> 1:49:47.479 Something, get so many times that the bitches kept getting 1:49:47.520 --> 1:49:49.640 longer and longer and longer until it was just. 1:49:49.720 --> 1:49:53.040 Like bitch and is that your favorite word? It really 1:49:53.120 --> 1:49:53.679 is my favorite. 1:49:53.840 --> 1:49:57.840 But look at this. They got a rude awakening though, 1:49:57.840 --> 1:50:00.160 because I went and looked at some old Dola Mite movie. 1:50:01.479 --> 1:50:02.479 This saying. 1:50:04.880 --> 1:50:05.040 Like that. 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:07.960 But you're doing none at a hip hop. You are 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:11.040 the you are the king, You're the first pimper hip hop. 1:50:11.400 --> 1:50:14.479 You are the first person that made us proud to 1:50:14.600 --> 1:50:17.800 be who you are, where you want to be. We 1:50:17.920 --> 1:50:20.479 want to salute you, too short. Let's still say that 1:50:20.600 --> 1:50:22.599 we love you. We want to say that we want 1:50:22.640 --> 1:50:23.520 to keep continuing. 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:28.640 And you look the same. You ain't aging. We are 1:50:28.920 --> 1:50:31.800 saluting you, my brother. You're a great guy. 1:50:32.320 --> 1:50:36.880 We love you, Drink Champs, love you definitely, and we're 1:50:36.880 --> 1:50:39.519 gonna drink some Champagne. I've been drinking you hard, Lick. 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:40.240 I know you're up here. 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:41.559 You got me a little. 1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:45.479 Podcast. 1:50:45.520 --> 1:50:49.280 We're gonna keep it going here you are. I'm never alright. 1:50:49.360 --> 1:50:53.240 We got always almost almost into this night, like man, 1:50:55.320 --> 1:50:56.080 what UPO? 1:50:56.160 --> 1:50:59.719 Wo too short? Thank you for coming the drink Champs. 1:51:01.240 --> 1:51:03.559 I'm sorry, I don't know all right, I'll just keep coughing. 1:51:05.400 --> 1:51:06.800 Thank you to stop coughing. 1:51:06.840 --> 1:51:07.439 Hit the way again. 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:12.600 It's like your TV show, yes what happened on my 1:51:12.680 --> 1:51:14.400 TV show yesterday? I forgot oh yo. 1:51:14.960 --> 1:51:18.040 We had face faces like I'm in Miami, nigga, like 1:51:19.120 --> 1:51:21.240 we just got off the cruise. Me Louke, we was 1:51:21.280 --> 1:51:22.320 all on this cruise. 1:51:23.080 --> 1:51:24.760 Chill high five, high fi. 1:51:26.920 --> 1:51:27.040 Yo. 1:51:33.080 --> 1:51:33.760 Thank you so much. 1:51:34.280 --> 1:51:34.680 All good. 1:51:34.840 --> 1:51:35.400 I didn't. 1:51:39.560 --> 1:51:42.880 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts 1:51:42.920 --> 1:51:44.640 and executive producers n O. 1:51:44.800 --> 1:51:46.000 R E and d J E. 1:51:46.240 --> 1:51:46.519 F FN. 1:51:47.680 --> 1:51:48.479 Listen to Drink. 1:51:48.360 --> 1:51:52.640 Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you 1:51:52.760 --> 1:51:56.559 get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:58.960 of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly d j e 1:51:59.200 --> 1:52:01.960 f N. 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