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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up is dj

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Speaker 4: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest

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Speaker 5: And sports, you know what I mean, the most professional

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Speaker 2: This is Drinks Day. Every day is New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 2: That's hey hands sangree, I hope you savvy? This is

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Speaker 2: your boy in Oi?

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Speaker 3: What Up? Is dj E f N?

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Speaker 1: And this is the Drink Chance motherfucking podcast?

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Speaker 3: Right now you're in the.

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Speaker 1: Airhorner, Oh ship, my bad. I ain't gonna write you

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Speaker 1: better with the hair or than me. No, that's Ray,

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Speaker 1: It's right, It's right, Ah, not right now.

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Speaker 5: We have the mother.

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Speaker 1: We have a super dupa legend. I want to say

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Speaker 1: he's the first Oakland rapper. I want to say he's

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Speaker 1: the first person because because when I when when I

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Speaker 1: South Central first, but we're going to get into that later.

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Speaker 1: But the first person, he's the guy who single handedly

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Speaker 1: made be.

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Speaker 2: What's my favorite word? I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Every time I say, bitch, I grabbed my collar. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why like that. This is how much it is.

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Speaker 1: The hyphee movement, everything derived from this guy. He's the

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Speaker 1: first himself. He's on the East Coast, especially in New York.

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Speaker 1: He's the first person that we saluted as the first

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Speaker 1: pimp and rat, the first person that made people bow down,

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Speaker 1: the first person that made bitch cool.

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Speaker 2: Actually, and he's.

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Speaker 1: A motherfucking legend. And every promoter I ever speak to,

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Speaker 1: I ever talk to, they say Short is the easiest

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Speaker 1: He's just pimp in.

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Speaker 2: Let's make annoys get too short. Too Short.

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Speaker 1: First off, let me just thank you man for being

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Speaker 1: a part of this man, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We only interview on legends, that's what we're doing. And

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Speaker 1: too Short, you was the first person to make bitch famous.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, like you mentioned a minute ago, I

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Speaker 1: A noise from south central.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I got a good, colorful childhood. I've

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Speaker 5: seen it all, you know. So you was gang banging

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Speaker 5: and little nigga except my older brother was banging. But

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Speaker 5: So I'm in there.

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Speaker 2: You know, all my cousins.

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Speaker 5: We live all over the city, you know, the hood

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Speaker 5: the early mid seventies, late seventies, and I moved to

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Speaker 2: After ninth grade. How old was you? I was, I

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Speaker 5: And then you would you would think of California, California

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Speaker 1: But it's just like it's a totally different.

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Speaker 5: Probably like a kid from New York moving upstate or

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Speaker 5: So I get to the Bay, it's a whole different

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Speaker 5: worlds and it's like it's it's like even more colorful

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Speaker 2: It just got a little more personal for me. I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm coming to you left.

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Speaker 1: You left South Central at fourteen, so you like almost

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Speaker 1: the Pampion because that's this is the.

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Speaker 5: LA is like real territorial La. At that time. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I know, Oh my god, normally the riots and.

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Speaker 5: You got to know your mother fucking route because they're

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Speaker 2: They're gonna take something if you hit the wrong black.

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Speaker 5: So I get to Oakland and it's not it's not

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Speaker 5: It was just like who's getting money, who's who's However, so.

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Speaker 1: Now how far in Oakland was Fillmore Street because that's

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Speaker 1: the that's the first thing I heard about Oakland Filmore.

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Speaker 2: Street, Fillmore on in West Oakland. Uh is that is

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Speaker 5: Filbert is in West uh. Fillmore Is is a neighborhood

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Speaker 5: The Fillmore iss very historical neighborhood too. Oakland has a

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Speaker 5: lot of history. You know, you got different parts of

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Speaker 5: different sizes of the Bay. East forty of them over

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Speaker 5: there from Vallet, Whole Blet. It's a little town called

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Speaker 5: East Paula Alto. They got a lot of you know,

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Speaker 5: I got mines from the East side. So I show

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Speaker 2: It's a new place.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking around, you know. I go to Freemont High

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Speaker 5: and it's a nigga named Frank the Bank who's pimping.

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Speaker 2: He's a twelfth grader pimping. Hold on, let's make some

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Speaker 5: He's pimping and one of his holes, Yeah, one of

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Speaker 5: this city now, I'm like, whoa. So it's like this

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Speaker 5: nigga got another hole come show up after school every

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Speaker 5: You gotta get cats riding around in like limousines. Niggas

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Speaker 1: And that's the first time you're coming from South Central

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Speaker 5: And then at the same time, it's like Oakland was

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Speaker 5: a lot different. Man. It was like niggas was doing

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Speaker 3: Damn, And.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean by car bombs.

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Speaker 5: Niggas was blowing each other's cars up while they was

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Speaker 2: Was going down.

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Speaker 5: They was doing mafia ship seventies, early ages like Felix Mitch.

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Speaker 5: You ever heard of Felix Mitchell heard it.

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Speaker 2: But this is not the Spanish gangs right now, this before.

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Speaker 5: This black dudes, Oh, this is the mob. They called

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Speaker 5: him something mob too, but it was just it was

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Speaker 5: different than the gang. The Blue and Red. People don't

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Speaker 5: got the l A Cats. They went to San Diego, Uh, Sacramento, Denver.

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Speaker 1: Every every city. He wanted to pop my call every

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas, Phoenix, Arizona. They went to all these cities, Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: Because even the Spanish gangs they might like fly or color, but.

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Speaker 5: It was doing the North and South shit and it

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Speaker 5: I take me. But I'm listening to this record too.

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Speaker 5: had the idea of a lifetime. I have to give

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Speaker 5: these niggas Oakland. So so my upbringing in La and

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Speaker 5: You know, something that I didn't receive from birth. I

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Speaker 5: it became like my music the city of Oakland. And

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Speaker 5: even later in life, I could get stuck in the

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Speaker 5: I think about Oakland and just start writing, and shit

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Speaker 5: just made me write songs.

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Speaker 1: So what's the name of their first album again out.

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Speaker 5: Don't Stop Rapping? And I named it that for a

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Speaker 5: reason and.

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Speaker 1: You didn't stop rapping stop five?

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Speaker 2: So so sure, yes's crazy. That is crazy. So and

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Speaker 2: what year did that drop? Nineteen eighty five?

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Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty five. I was born in nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: so you know, So if I don't, if I know that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big fan. I've always been a big.

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Speaker 2: Fan of you. You was raping job for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Come on, let's salute to that rape job on those

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Speaker 1: right fuck job.

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Speaker 5: You know you saw that Planet Rock documentary. Yeah, the

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Speaker 5: relationship between crack, cocaine and hip hop.

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Speaker 2: That's not the on VH one.

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Speaker 5: It was either VAGE one or BC. I think it's

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Speaker 5: one planet talking about one throughout the history of hip

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Speaker 5: hop and how the cocaine and the crackler.

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Speaker 2: I'm from that ship.

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Speaker 1: Because the way that people say and Freeway Wicked Ross

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Speaker 1: is they say that.

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Speaker 2: Crack cocaine invented in Oakland.

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Speaker 5: It was LA but then it came they used cities

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were.

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Speaker 1: So how was that like seeing the city coming from

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Speaker 5: So first and foremost, I gotta say, I never saw

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Speaker 1: This makes a nooyse s' something dope.

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Speaker 2: Pussy, Yeah already.

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Speaker 5: But that being said, so before eighty five, before like

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Speaker 5: it was like a nigga. A nigga could be like

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Speaker 5: You always had a why with a rubber band? He

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Speaker 5: I remember, I remember the crack did a few things, man.

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Speaker 1: Because I heard Oakland was like not Oakland, but I

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Speaker 1: mean that area was a great area.

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Speaker 2: Like prior to the drugs.

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Speaker 5: You could move around a little bit. It wasn't too

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Speaker 5: fucking dangerous if you do free raidss later on later

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Speaker 5: could you had to get yourself in some trouble if

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Speaker 5: you would notice like a and you know this shit too,

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Speaker 5: You know, we didn't before the crack, we didn't have

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that the most you might get shoot six

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Speaker 1: So do you believe this story that the CIA actually

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good version that it's true.

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Speaker 5: But the bigger version now is the whole big story

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Speaker 5: of the whole mass incarceration thing, that the whole ship

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Speaker 5: we all this ship we called coke wrap. We're down

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Speaker 5: there like we fell for the trap. You know they

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Speaker 5: That I mean, it says it all.

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Speaker 1: So so listen, I want to get into the pimping

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Speaker 1: the pimpping thing because I don't give a fuck with

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Speaker 1: any n y C. Nigga. Tell you, we didn't know

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Speaker 1: anything about no Pipman until we heard you talking about it.

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Speaker 1: When you heard you talking about it, then we seen

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Speaker 1: Bishop don wud. We've seen them, you know, the players,

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Speaker 2: Stopped the phone.

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Speaker 1: But so so so so, so when was the first

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Speaker 1: time he was introduced to pimping? And then how did

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Speaker 1: you realize that that was that was gonna be your life?

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Speaker 5: All right? Well, my infatuation started with the movies of

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Speaker 5: the seventies because they put it in there so superflow.

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Speaker 5: And then, like I said, my cousins living on eighty

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Speaker 2: Where going eighty fourth and Hoover, that's in La.

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Speaker 5: So then when I get to Oakland, I see these

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Speaker 5: niggas rideing around limousines with hoses, then getting picked up

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Speaker 2: Is looking at me back there's like that back then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then me and my little homie would go

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Speaker 5: down to Sam Pablo where they used to see pussy

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Speaker 5: in the prior to Crack, they looked like the fucking

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Speaker 2: Hose were beautiful prior to Crack. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Soor because you know, Crack gave pipping and home like

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Speaker 5: this ugly sma. A lot of pemps got smoked out,

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Speaker 5: a lot of holes got smoked out, and it was

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Speaker 5: like then we start saying ship like crack.

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Speaker 2: Horse before that, your bitch had to be a superstar.

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Speaker 5: And even to this day, I want to shout out

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Speaker 5: some of my young pimping homies right now that they're

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Speaker 5: pimping on some dying pieces that you would never think

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Speaker 5: You know, it's some holes out there on some major

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Speaker 5: routes right now. So just to keep the having a

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Speaker 1: I keep popping my car like I'm like every time

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Speaker 1: I keep.

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Speaker 5: Your nigga's not wearing suits and times with match your

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Speaker 5: shoes social media, they look.

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Speaker 2: Like rappers money.

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Speaker 5: So so I I've seen this ship, man, I start

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Speaker 5: I started diving a little more into it. My thing

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Speaker 5: with rapping after I heard the message was let's use

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Speaker 5: the lingo of the streets, the new slang words that

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Speaker 5: come out the ship that's really happening, Like, let's talk

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Speaker 5: about these streets. And then it just evolved into you know,

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Speaker 5: let's talk about this game. And we just started like

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Speaker 5: people just you would rap about ship and you would

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Speaker 5: see what motherfucker was interested in. They wanted to hear

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Speaker 5: that real ship. So somewhere down the line I had

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Speaker 5: I had a line in one of my.

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Speaker 1: Sworn pass you too, I don't know if you smoke,

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Speaker 1: Oh ship, oh ship.

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Speaker 2: Too short.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that I was cool, cool, my dad,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you smoke.

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Speaker 5: At a young I was about fifteen sixteen, I wrote

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Speaker 5: this this one and it said it said I had

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Speaker 5: It was just a line, and every time I said

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Speaker 5: each of these sixteen holes and how I met him.

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Speaker 5: And that was then early version of my song that

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Speaker 5: came to be real popular, called Freaky Tales. And I

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Speaker 5: had a song about these sixteen holes, how I met him,

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Speaker 5: I met this hole, you know. And it just started

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Speaker 5: being more and more pimping. I just started digging into

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Speaker 5: the game. And you you gotta you know, you got

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Speaker 5: the Donald Goyn's books, you got you know, Iceberg, Slim,

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Speaker 5: The Story of my Life, Phil Moore. Some of those

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Speaker 5: I read this book called up broad Players. It's not

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Speaker 5: And I started it just come to me, man, you

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Speaker 5: get these ideas as a writer, and I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 5: that'd be the cold at.

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Speaker 1: Fuck to just like tell this guy your story short.

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Speaker 1: One time I met bis your don wan, he invited

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Speaker 1: me to a joint, right and then and then so

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Speaker 1: for a week I was pimping, like for just one week,

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Speaker 1: just one week.

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Speaker 2: Right, just one week.

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Speaker 1: No, I swore I was pimping. Right, So this white

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Speaker 1: you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Choose, and she chose, She chose me. I ain't know

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Speaker 2: what to do after that. After that short can you can?

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Speaker 2: You can?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 5: Was? She chose me and started the science of the

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Speaker 5: where and why? And the ship was like it's like

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Speaker 5: any other business man, why is this woman gonna sell

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: And you know, you put yourself in sort of like

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Speaker 5: like her fucking fucking arapists and ship, you know, because

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Speaker 5: this is gonna be crazy as hell. You gotta you

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Speaker 5: gotta bring it back around every night.

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Speaker 2: Because a real pimp gotta be real smart. Let's just

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Speaker 2: keep it.

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Speaker 5: But then the main, the main secret I think that

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Speaker 5: I learned about pepping, that one that the one that

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Speaker 5: she's out there working. Uh huh, is she got to

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Speaker 5: be home for a purpose and you've got to give

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Speaker 2: It makes a noise for for purpose. Stop stop giving

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's anything in life. Man, if you're not driven,

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Speaker 5: if you you wrapping and ship and you're not rapping

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Speaker 5: for something, you're not really you're not really going for it,

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Speaker 5: just on the corner freestyling and battling.

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Speaker 1: I just always thought that like the pimps that didn't

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the best ones because in order

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Speaker 2: So how about those PEPs.

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Speaker 5: But you know the pimps who I call that like

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Speaker 5: finesse pipping where you could just.

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Speaker 2: Make a noise.

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Speaker 5: And then the other guy who got to beat the

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Speaker 5: pimp gorilla pipping. I heard about it, and you know,

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Speaker 5: the Finesse pimps, they kind of laugh at the gorilla pimps.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like they look at it like the

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Speaker 5: nigga's not as smart as me and he don't got

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Speaker 5: as much much game as me. But it works both ways.

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Speaker 5: You want to you want to pim up the whole

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Speaker 5: out of fear. I personally don't think that that's even necessary,

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Speaker 5: but there's a lot of niggas. It's mean nature like

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Speaker 5: just run run a house full of fear. But you know,

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Speaker 5: either way, you're getting the money man because you because

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Speaker 1: Label was always was you was signed a job for

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Speaker 1: like like twelve.

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Speaker 5: No shit, like like maybe twelve thirteen, fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Hours, thirteen years was You're the only album?

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Speaker 5: No, it was me E forty spice one. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was because I know what the tours was crazy

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Speaker 3: back then.

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Speaker 1: So but you was the first like official rapper from.

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Speaker 5: Oakland, no doubt about it, from the whole fucking Bay area.

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Speaker 2: Make some noise for that. I got damn no shit.

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Speaker 5: And it has really nothing to do with my la upbringing.

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Speaker 5: Either it's that I just got to Oakland. It all

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Speaker 5: just happened. After I got there, I decided I could

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Speaker 5: do this rap shit, and I just didn't. It just,

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Speaker 5: you know, even bigger than being the first rapper up

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Speaker 5: out of the bay. Bigger than that is is being

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Speaker 5: a pioneer of the whole music scene, because you could

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Speaker 5: brought in that independent change the game, put your motherfucking

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Speaker 5: records out, you know, And like I said, it was.

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Speaker 1: Because then job came and got you. How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: When we first got signed a job.

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Speaker 5: I came in the game through uh through some uh,

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Speaker 5: some street guys you know, Okay, particularly a guy named

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Speaker 5: Dean Hodges.

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00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 2: He's seen you.

442
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 5: And then his little brother was was the homie we

443
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 5: still you know, smoke weed, hangout and ship. He was

444
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 5: just the homie we start funk around.

445
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 2: And like his little brother rapped.

446
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 5: But he wasn't. He wasn't really that quality where that

447
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 5: you ever thought he was gonna get on. He was

448
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 5: just like for the fun of it. They were in

449
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 5: the projects rapping and ship kicking. So he was like, man,

450
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 5: my brother got a record.

451
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 1: Label.

452
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, you other niggasle me take your.

453
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 2: Boy his house.

454
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 5: Now I knew his brother, not for having a record label.

455
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 5: The nigga he had the sack. And if you want

456
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 5: to get the visual Dean back then, Dean kind of

457
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 5: you know nigga with the with the curlers in his hair, the.

458
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: Green or whatever the coast.

459
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: Every time they had the curlers in the head, you

460
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: thought your nigga was killless.

461
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 5: Picture of that nigga looking like a kind of like

462
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 5: a Jimmy Hendrix, Rick James looking. Niggas just like a

463
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 5: rock star. Him and man, I got so much game.

464
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 5: Dean taught me how.

465
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 2: To be a player. This nigga was a player.

466
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 5: Niggas a player for real, I mean real player who

467
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 5: was sitting in his house. I'm fresh out of high school.

468
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 5: This nigga run hose in and out all day all day.

469
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: Just he got the sack and he's just rockstarring the

470
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 5: hood and he's just a house on the hill balling

471
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 5: and the nigga. The nigga had a label, and his

472
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 5: whole label consisted of him mm hmm, having the money,

473
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 5: having the drug. Everybody wanted the cocaine. He said, out there,

474
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 5: you go to Dean's house, it's a platter of cocaine

475
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 5: right there.

476
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: It's a it's a bitch.

477
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 5: It's a bit over there, maybe in her and her

478
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 5: draw panties and and bra cooking up some cokes.

479
00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 2: Want to smoke it.

480
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 5: It's a box of weed. Just roll a joint. If

481
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 5: don't ask, just roll the motherfucker. And you know, it's

482
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 5: just it was a colorful environment, man, motherfucking Dean was

483
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 5: kind of nigga. They watch San France Son reruns all

484
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 5: day and just and just bitches sit around in their panties.

485
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie when you describe that scene.

486
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 5: Side it looked like some shit like that. Immediately on

487
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 5: a way higher level. This nigga was not selling rocks.

488
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 5: This was not a rock house. You had to pick.

489
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 2: You had to come up in there with some money,

490
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: if you know what.

491
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 5: So Dean got all these professionals together, musicians that play

492
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 5: all instruments, niggas that have been in you know, different

493
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 5: bands with because Oakland got a lot of music history.

494
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 5: So these niggas that play with Tower of Power and

495
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 5: Larry Graham and James and all kind of motherfuckers. It

496
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 5: was just it was professionalism. And he put me in

497
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 5: the studio with these niggas, these like older cats. He

498
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 5: even had some rock and roll dudes around. It was

499
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 5: just it was a great environment to become too short.

500
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 5: It wasn't really doesn't sound really healthy, but it was

501
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 5: a great environment to develop the character too short, and

502
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 5: we made We just got to studio since session started

503
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 5: eleven pm into six am, and it was just, you know,

504
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 5: it's a college for me, you know what I'm saying.

505
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,239
Speaker 5: The main thing was the nigga was really running an

506
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: independent label and he was really going to the studio.

507
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: And he's the one who took you to job.

508
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 5: No, no, he was the one that he just taught

509
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 5: me this shit. Okay, So we go to the studio,

510
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 5: the ship mixed down, We go to this other motherfucker,

511
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 5: We get cassettes and wax pressed up. We go this

512
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 5: other motherfucker and he sells the ship to multiple record

513
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 5: stores and then we drive up to individual record stores

514
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 5: and just carry the shit in and sell it to him.

515
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: Because it's true, I like y'all invented independent hustling.

516
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 5: How I got lucky was one day I'm one hundred

517
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 5: one hundred percent with Dean. This nigga, you know, the

518
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 5: nigga that taught you the game. You're looking up till this,

519
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 5: this nineteen eighty five. This nigga's driving eighty five bens.

520
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 5: He's the nigga.

521
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm like, what we doing next?

522
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 5: And then one day Deans, like about two years into it,

523
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 5: he was like, man to me and his little brother,

524
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 5: I need your niggas. Get the fuck out of my house.

525
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: Folks in this crib. Yeah, fuck this music ship. Just

526
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: get then away, come right.

527
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 5: But we like family, his mama like my mom, and

528
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 5: his cousins like my cousin.

529
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: We ain't going too far right up the street.

530
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 5: But still now he was like, I don't want no

531
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 5: more parts of it. So that all we had to

532
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 5: do now is we've been running with Dean for two years,

533
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 5: to the mother fucking studio, to the manufacturer, to the

534
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 5: nigga that do the artwork, to the mother fucking distributor

535
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: picking up the check. We right there with him. What

536
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 5: do we do we do the ship without him? Nigga,

537
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 5: we made so much, motherfucker, and that's how you are.

538
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 5: That's how Joe found me.

539
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: And then job came to you.

540
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 5: We didn't give a fuck about the signing bonus and nothing.

541
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 5: We're just like, you're gonna give us national distribution.

542
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: Let's loo get out. You know it's in New York.

543
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: It was the exact opposite.

544
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: Cocky some of that.

545
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: Why yeah, you'll be trying to get a deal, right,

546
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: We'll be trying to get a deal first.

547
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: But we heard something because we heard that Richmond, California.

548
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: You guys in, yeah, Oakland, like you guys in like that,

549
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: y'all was actually like when you said selling out the trunk,

550
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: we meant that as selling it to fat beats. We

551
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: wasn't selling out. I'm keeping it honest with you. We

552
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: weren't selling out the trunk, y'all. Was literally we had

553
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: boxes in the back of selling out the motherfucking trunk.

554
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 5: And it wasn't no trunk. It was actually a fucking

555
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 5: truck truck actually trunk.

556
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.

557
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 5: Same thing with master P. Man master P was in

558
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: the Bay. He was in the Bay owned record He

559
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 5: owned a record store in Richmond. Master P was from

560
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: New Orleans, came out to the Bay and he started

561
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: making the fucking West Coast down South compilations and ship

562
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: and then he blew the fuck up and set up

563
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 5: shop down in the bathroom.

564
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: Master P was in the bay with sunking up that

565
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: independent game.

566
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: So yah, y'all, y'all taught us the independence ship.

567
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 5: Like every time, it was just a no option thing.

568
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Though.

569
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 5: Man if I had a fucking Tommy Boy and other

570
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: god damn profile records was up the streets. I've been

571
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 5: up there telling me to hook me the fuck up,

572
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 5: but we didn't have it.

573
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: So you guys got had to always look at New

574
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: York people like niggadamn y'all lazy. How the hell you

575
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: all got a deal on y'all in the in the city.

576
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 5: I had a rap partner before, like a eighty five,

577
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 5: my rap partner got caught up in the in the

578
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 5: crack game.

579
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: And okay, we never heard this.

580
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Let's make a noise too short for giving us the exco.

581
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 5: My nigga, Freddy b he was, he was, he was popping.

582
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 5: It was it was Freddy being too short. It was

583
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 5: that nigga. That nigga was an Oakland niggas born and

584
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 5: brand new niggas on every side of town. That was

585
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 5: he was. He was like the plug for me, like

586
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 5: on just walking the streets. But yeah, before that though, okay,

587
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 5: that we was working.

588
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. I did song with

589
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: you back in the days. But for you to sit

590
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: down and sit down and chill, because you.

591
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: Know what this is. It's about letting legends live again.

592
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

593
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: This is the drink Try podcast is about. And for

594
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: you to just sit down and you not to deny

595
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: me pass you the weed. I am very fucking happy,

596
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: my brother. They guy shoking up Blunt with too short

597
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: interview with too short some fucking.

598
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: This is a serious legend.

599
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 5: They were like nineteen eighty three, eighty four, me and

600
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 5: Freddie b we're talking about all right, that's what we're

601
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 5: gonna do.

602
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna get two Greyhound tickets.

603
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: We wrote down the list every mother fucking twelve inch

604
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 5: that came out, every every every single that dropped out

605
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: of New York.

606
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Wow, all the different labels.

607
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: We wrote down an address to the motherfucking label. We're like,

608
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: we're got a fucking Greyhound. Were going on these fucking address.

609
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: We gonna get us a record out like that was

610
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 5: the that was the option.

611
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Wow, all you knew niggas need to listen to what

612
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: he just said. Say, yo, oh my god, can't continue please,

613
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: that's this is a crazy story. These guys are stowed

614
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: on the internet and just hope Kevin Lyles call them

615
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: gag continue.

616
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know it was gonna We had plans,

617
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: man like, it was like options and ship and then

618
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: we got with that independent game and it should just

619
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 5: happened like Dean. Dean showed me how to do it.

620
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: I always give credit to him for it and what

621
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: I did when I got it, I passed it on

622
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: to one of my homies. Okay, the dude who I'm

623
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: who came back around. After I quit fucking with Dean,

624
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 5: I still needed somebody to come with some money to

625
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: make the dream come true. I knew how to do it,

626
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 5: but I didn't have the money no more. So my

627
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: man teed Bohannan, him and Big Ted Little till they

628
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 5: got they got a little rep in the streets of Oakland.

629
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 5: People know who that is. They they came through, put

630
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 5: a nigga back in the game with the you know,

631
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 5: the studio time and being able to press up the

632
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 5: ship and all that shit, and we just kind of

633
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: we blew up from there. Man we went to the

634
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: next motherfucking level with just I'm just every every I

635
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: think it was like every fifteen racks would make me

636
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: like sixty or some shit like that.

637
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Every fifteen racks you spend, yeah, make you bring back sixty.

638
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Drug dealers listen to this pay attention.

639
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: And it was clear legit money, and we kept flipping

640
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: it so many times, like we just kept on getting

641
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 5: this is when you're just indeed, though, We'll go by

642
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: fifteen thousand consettes and selling for sixty racks And.

643
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: Did that give you the upper handle when a jive

644
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: king knocking.

645
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. But all we wanted from Jove was distribution. The

646
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: way we did the ship, we just we just wanted

647
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: to get a different deal though, compared to like someone

648
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: in New York that was signing the drive right.

649
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: Trup.

650
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: We thought we did in the long the motherfuckers just slick.

651
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 3: Man, because That's what I'm wondering.

652
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: We thought we had some ship and we had to

653
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 5: bullshit too. But it's cool. We Wow, we made a

654
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: lot of money. How long you've been in the job.

655
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: How many years I was on that motherfucker from eighty

656
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: eight until like god, damn, damn me in two thousand

657
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: and eight. It was a long time.

658
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: This makes some noise money a long time.

659
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: A lot of mother count that long, a lot of motherfuckers.

660
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: But you might have fun on jobs.

661
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: Let me say it's funny that so I wrapped a

662
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 5: long time before I got a deal. I did a

663
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: lot of shit before I got a deal. I got

664
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: a deal in eighty eight, and I had been rapping

665
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: like seven eight years already. So I had all these

666
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: rap songs that I put out in the streets that

667
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: people knew and loved.

668
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: But I signed a jive. It shot me to check.

669
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: The albums went nationwide, checks came back, you know, the

670
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 5: royalties and shit they shot the next up front, I'm like, nigga, Like,

671
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: you know, we was getting money grinding and hustling. I

672
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: was like, Nigga, thisse Nigga's gonna keep sending me hundreds

673
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 5: of thousands if I make songs.

674
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Nigga.

675
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: I went back until I had a box. Well, I

676
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: didn't have a rap book. I had a box full

677
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: of raps I'd been writing down for years and just

678
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: little shapes in the street. I went in that box

679
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 5: and recycled every motherfucking line in there. I would just

680
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 5: scratch out the line if I use it. I was

681
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 5: using them old raps for the.

682
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: Next eight years.

683
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: Well shit, I wrote for eight years prior I used

684
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: for eight years. In my deal, I put out an

685
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: album probably every nine months.

686
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: And now, what would you consider itself?

687
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: More of a rapper or more of a ceo and

688
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: a ulf.

689
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: Well as far as rap goes, I think I'm a real,

690
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 5: real major hip hop fan, and I always put myself

691
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: outside the circle of what I'm calling hip hop niggas

692
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 5: who was like, ooh that niggas spit them.

693
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Bars, you know, ship like you're the ooh ship.

694
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: I was strictly just pounding in the trunk, talking ship.

695
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 5: And I could have taught a lot of niggas, no

696
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 5: matter what the integrity of you as a man, I

697
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: could have taught you how to talk that ship and

698
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 5: make that ship pound and you would have had a

699
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: million fans like me like it just you talk shit.

700
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: I listen, I'm saying ship talking versus spitting bars and

701
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: all this ship and being a rapper.

702
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: But see, oh, man, I.

703
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: Look at it like we hustlers, man, because we we

704
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: we started a company and we don't say you my boss.

705
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 5: And that's like, nigga, we hustling to get this money

706
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 5: doing something. We didn't drop niggas off on the way

707
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: because we hustling and getting money. It's a lot of

708
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: money coming in, and niggas like call me when y'all

709
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 5: going to lunch, you know, Like, nigga know, we up

710
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: at seven in the morning pressing the shipping and picking

711
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: up ship and moving it around niggas, you know, and

712
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: we and we partied all last night, but were up

713
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: in the morning grinding getting this ship to where we

714
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: can get these checks back.

715
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I always thought about bank deposits.

716
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: Damn, you need to be making you need to be

717
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 5: making more money than Yeah, you take that in the bank.

718
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: I put that in the bank. So I put that

719
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: ship under my master's foul.

720
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, how the fun can we make get to

721
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 5: the bank and put money in uh huh? So we grinding, man,

722
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: like we grinding niggas is don't have that same black

723
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 5: minded philosophy. He was dropping them off on the way.

724
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Now, how did you get to minute to society? Bro?

725
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: How did you because you.

726
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: Just stole you had really okay, the Huge Brothers, this

727
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: is what I think happened. The Huge Brothers are really

728
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 5: real big Bay area hip hop fans. Oh wow, and

729
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: they're from Pomona somewhere in l Ay. They love Bay

730
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: Raptor say, this is what they told me. And Tupac

731
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: had just fucked off his partner the movie by beating

732
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: one of the brothers up about that.

733
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: That makes.

734
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: So so Park was off the movie. And if you notice,

735
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of star power you got but

736
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: didn't have your role.

737
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: No, no.

738
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: He didn't. He had supposed to be.

739
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: That was so they needed a little star power and

740
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: they just they strictly just brought me in so that

741
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 5: they could have like somebody name brand and that motherfucking

742
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: and they just happened to be major too short fans.

743
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: You noticed they came and got me for the next

744
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 5: little documentary movie. What was it called American Pimp? Oh yes,

745
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 5: they let me set.

746
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: You you're supposed to be in there ahead.

747
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: So it was it was just a matter of that.

748
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Man.

749
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: I came in and worked for a few days and

750
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: kicked it.

751
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: Minister Society a cold ass movie, and you had the

752
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: coldest role in there.

753
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: They letting nigga you know I'm not was the cold world.

754
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: They pulled the strap on dog.

755
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm the movie. That's what I'm talking about.

756
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise you put.

757
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: That's a fact, yo, yo.

758
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: That that's I mean for us, especially us from New York.

759
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, when we seen you, when we see n

760
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: w A, when we see minister society boys in the hood,

761
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: that's when we actually realized y'all culture because.

762
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: We knew that hip hop.

763
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: I think comedy had made a record our lover her

764
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: and but when they went over it, yeah, I used

765
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: to love her, but when it went over there, y'all

766
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: was so different. And for me, everything was about buildings.

767
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: Everything was about like when I see you in the face, yeah,

768
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: and y'all chopped it up and this was the craziest

769
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: thing to see you guys in your element, you know

770
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, But but the crazy thing is

771
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you was from South Central and then you went.

772
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: Up North North North Cam you called it up.

773
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: North Yeah, yeah, see see North. Two different worlds, different

774
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: gang the Mexican gangs.

775
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 5: They divide them, the slang words, the dress code, wow yeah.

776
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 2: And you could adapt to both worlds. Still, I mean

777
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: to this day.

778
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: To this day, you can still look that I'm gonna

779
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: lie I had a promoter hit me one time and

780
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: it was a it was a lady, it's like, you

781
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: want too short. It's the easiest people to handle. And

782
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: I was like, why is that? It was like, you

783
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: don't askual for hearing make up.

784
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: They just want to land and we missed the Davis.

785
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: What's not five too short?

786
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

787
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, what's the pick up?

788
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take that.

789
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: You where dim Mike at you need one?

790
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: So that but after minutes, how did your life change?

791
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Because that had to be the biggest music movie at

792
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that time.

793
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't gonna lie.

794
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 5: Man, what I had going on at that moment was

795
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: bigger than that movie. My ship was platinum, platinum, platinum.

796
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: That that movie was like some side ship.

797
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't that was I was.

798
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: I was already popping. So if the movie came out,

799
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: hit hard, but it was. It was one of the

800
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: ones that kind of like Purple Range kind of movie

801
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: where it kind of lasted and last year don't go

802
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 5: Away and you watch it right now on TV or

803
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 5: you know, unedited, it's still it's the ship.

804
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: The movie.

805
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 5: The Boy's made a good movie. But I'm you know, man,

806
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: that whole New York West Coast thing I used to

807
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 5: I used to go to New York. What you're telling

808
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: me now? Like I used to go to New York

809
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: and I know for a fact it wasn't really about

810
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: the music because motherfucker's like, man, I really didn't even

811
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 5: hear too much shit you did. But they'd be like, man,

812
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 5: respect some respect, kid like it would be.

813
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: It was, you know the fact that it was a

814
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: nationalized It's like if you the man, you're the man

815
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: of your hood.

816
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: So I asked my New York because I'm like, what

817
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 5: does that mean that they keep saying respect. They was like,

818
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 5: they're showing you love. Like it's just saying, you know, ship,

819
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 5: that's that's a big deal for New Yorker. It says

820
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 5: to you respect. So I was like, okay, cool, but

821
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: it wasn't about the music, you know, And you know

822
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 5: I kind of I kind of you know, I started

823
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 5: hanging out in New York a little bit.

824
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: Man, After a while, they love you in New York.

825
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but you know,

826
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: the whistle whistle comes, I.

827
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 5: Start getting them studios though in New York moving around ship,

828
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't been on I've been on three

829
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: jay Z albums, two big albums.

830
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Going was, I was up, it was going there.

831
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: How did that first feel?

832
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Like? You know, Jay wanted to mess with you. You're

833
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: all the way on the other side of the coast

834
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: and he wanted I got the I.

835
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 5: Got the B I G blessing b I G. Just

836
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 5: he was you know, if you worked your bigger before

837
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: j or do you work with big first and the

838
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 5: big first? He told me this ship man, He told

839
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: me this ship the first time I met him. He can't.

840
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: He called me over to a limo. We was at

841
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: the outcast picnicking.

842
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: And Limos was popping backigg.

843
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Nigga, can't limo right now?

844
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: If you fucked up, nigga, you put up in a limo, nigga,

845
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: ain't nobody niggas like, who who's fuck getting bob blowing.

846
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 5: Up right now?

847
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, But then I understand Limos.

848
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: That the nigga caught me over to the limo and

849
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: you know, roll the window down. I walked, I leaning

850
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 5: over and it's a friendly event outdoor, you know, just

851
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: manching and ship on.

852
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: The on the front line, the backround, all around.

853
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: The house and ship and he called me over and

854
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: he just said, yo, yo, you got love in Brooklyn.

855
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: That's all he said about Big. I was like, what's up?

856
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 5: And then a couple of years later, niggas a super

857
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 5: megan stuff.

858
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: But but hold on because I want you to continue story.

859
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: But did you know how much New York loved you?

860
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Because New York loved you.

861
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: That's what I'm getting at. It was a it was

862
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: a gradual you know understanding. I didn't even I wasn't

863
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: getting it for a minute.

864
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so uh he told me that ship.

865
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: And then a couple of years later, we sitting on

866
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: the tour bus, he spoke some weed. He was like, yo,

867
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: remember that time he came up to the limos, like

868
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 5: you got love in Brooklyn?

869
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: He said that was me.

870
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, you know, like you know.

871
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: Oh, so he wasn't Biggie when he told you that.

872
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: He probably was already had his deal and ship.

873
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: He was. He was at the party, but he.

874
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: Of noise too short, breaking the story.

875
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

876
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: So you've been Big before he was Big and he

877
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: told you you had love in Brooklyn and then you

878
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: see him.

879
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: Later later on we started being homies and ship, we

880
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 5: making songs we did that the world is filled.

881
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: With So now I too short.

882
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: You keep making me pop my collar the whole episode

883
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: of making your shirt. I'm just I've been like that

884
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: and now I'm a Hyphian because you know, I go

885
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: out there recently.

886
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm good.

887
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Big just we just became friends, man,

888
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: and you know he was He told me about how

889
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: how New Yorkers, for the most part, wasn't really feeling

890
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: like listening to any other hip hop outside New York.

891
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: And he's like, man, I've been listening to everything though

892
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: he was naming Ship like he listened all down South Ship.

893
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I like him. I like Ship. So

894
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: so he was.

895
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: One of them cats who was open without any kind

896
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: of bias, and he he wanted to work, like let's

897
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 5: do a song. And then the way I did the

898
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: song with him and he said, I for need to

899
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: come get me, Like you know, like puff is, you

900
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: can't say no kind of nigga. So Puffers like, man,

901
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: you know, Big want you on the song.

902
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: I've never been able to say no. St to this day.

903
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Niggas like people think he's soft nigga niggas a bully man. Yeah,

904
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: he's a bully. He's a bully for this.

905
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: This is a funny story that Big came to the

906
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Oakland and I think somebody took his chain.

907
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: I ain't heard that one. You ain't heard that one.

908
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 2: You didn't hear that one. I heard forty helped that out. Okay, Okay,

909
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: you know what. I moved to Atlanta?

910
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about that Atlanta movement was like, take you

911
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: responsible from Atlanta being a pimping country Atlanta?

912
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: What wait?

913
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: What Eric Sermon moved to Atlanta and.

914
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: They you moved to Atlanta early? What year did you move?

915
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: Ninety three?

916
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Ninety three? Is is that why they got strip clubs

917
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: in Atlanta?

918
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: Moved there.

919
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: I didn't move that Atlanta for the music industry. I

920
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: moved to that motherfucker for the for the property, the culture,

921
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: and that I was. I was down there. It was

922
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: it was like easy math was real estate was like

923
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 5: one fourth a way. California is ship fucking up table

924
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: dancers at the strip club was five dollars?

925
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: How long were saying in California at that time.

926
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 5: The racial of women and men was like twenty to one.

927
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 5: It was it was going down and it was just

928
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: it was like.

929
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: You was the first person to crack this outing Lloyds

930
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: for him to crack the out, you.

931
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: Know, you know who beat me? There was the niggas

932
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: that beat me. Eric Simon showed up like a little.

933
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 5: Bit before me.

934
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown was Bobby Brown was acting ass around Brown.

935
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: He was acting.

936
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: Brown was sucking everything he was in that motherfucker fucking everything.

937
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: It was his variagety. It was his variety.

938
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: Man, he was fucking everything. I ain't going out everywhere

939
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: like I was a little nigga. See everybody brow whoever

940
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I was, We're like, you're gonna suck him to day. Yeah,

941
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, boy, I'm sorry, I got Yeah.

942
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 5: So you know, Dallas Auston was starting his ship.

943
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: He was.

944
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: He was involved with the HOTELC come up and l A.

945
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: Reed was already and then he had the glove war.

946
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: When you met him, exhaust not he were in gloves

947
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: or spikes and ship. He's a little different.

948
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: He was rock and roll Dallas. He was a rock star.

949
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: He was.

950
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: He's a rock star.

951
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 5: He's always.

952
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to establish.

953
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: You know, he's old. He helped me out.

954
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: L A.

955
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: Red was who he is, he was, he was all

956
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: of that that the face was there. He had Tony

957
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: Bracks and ship already been plattinum. He had like artist

958
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: Tony Terry, he was the face was established, and then

959
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 5: there was no outcasts. There wasn't no gooddy mobs, wasn't

960
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 5: you know. Chris Cross probably had like you know, single

961
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 5: or some ship, the new ship. They were still jumping

962
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: around ship. So I got there right when it started.

963
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: Gucci Crew.

964
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: I think I got it, you know, tag teams bawling,

965
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: and we took we took the Face the Face Records.

966
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 5: Yeah you heard that just now.

967
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: He was at the Face Records. They never offered be shipp.

968
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: Let's just make some noise for too short, for raping

969
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the industry on.

970
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just there for young Atlanta.

971
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: You know, the architecture of what you're coming from.

972
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: You come from, you're born, You're born in South Central,

973
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: move to Oakland and now you.

974
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: And then the eyeball Atlanta. I'm at the freak nig

975
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: like what I'm come back?

976
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: And you did you realize that this was born to

977
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: be the music scene or you was just out there?

978
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 5: I went to the I had already been touring out

979
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: there doing doing concerts and ship and then we're going

980
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: to Magic City, and yeah, fuck around, I knew the lifestyle.

981
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Now Magic City is where Players Club is based on.

982
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: Could that it could be?

983
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: It could be.

984
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: What did you feel like when you've seen the Players Club?

985
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: Was that true to you?

986
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 5: Or was that to the lifestyle I was living? Cube

987
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: is my nigga, to the lifestyle was living. That's very

988
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 5: watered down strip club experience in that movie. I've never

989
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 5: really seen a strip club to give you a movie

990
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: to give you that real fucking strip club feeling that real.

991
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: So we're gonna make the movie. Opportunity drink chaps, We're

992
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: gonna make the movie together.

993
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: I never really after that the real strip club experience.

994
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: And now are you saying in the Bay Area now,

995
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it anywhere?

996
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 5: It's so whack on the West Coast. I don't I

997
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 5: don't even strip clubs on the West Coast.

998
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: I forget Miami and we got it here, man, we

999
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: got you.

1000
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: No, I ain't gonna lie Miami. You ain't doing it.

1001
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 5: If you ain't doing it like Miami or Atlantai cities

1002
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: like Dallas, if the bitch don't get butt, nigga, and

1003
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 5: you can have a drink in the same building.

1004
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: It's bullshit.

1005
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Let's make a noise for too short ring about the

1006
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: real strip club strip clock right there.

1007
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: I tell my niggas in New York all the time.

1008
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: In New York on the time we go to Susan

1009
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like, it's a strip club in

1010
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: l a with a bitch.

1011
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 5: Bitch wear three pairs of panties. She barely gets topless

1012
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 5: for a minute. She keeps poking the titty out and

1013
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 5: then every time the bitch pull her panties back, it's

1014
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: another pair of panties under it.

1015
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was in the hotel, that would

1016
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: work for me. Put it in the strip club with nice.

1017
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 5: I'm in Atlanta, man, I'm getting there, you know, before

1018
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: I moved there, and you like, you get a dance,

1019
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: right she? You say, can I get a dance? And

1020
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: you say, let me see that pussy? M So she

1021
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 5: before you even get to dance, You's like, let me

1022
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: just see what I'm getting into. And then you go, oh, yeah,

1023
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 5: I want to dance based on if you like what

1024
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: you see. You ain't doing that at no. You know

1025
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: them other joints, you know, sometimes they call them strip clubs.

1026
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 5: The shouldn't call them naked clubs because girls on your strip,

1027
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: they don't even wearing nothing.

1028
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: They don't even call it. I'm not gonna lie.

1029
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 5: But some clubs they walk around but as nakeas you

1030
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: don't even have a top of bottom. She's just walking

1031
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 5: around already naked.

1032
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was a pimp for a week. It

1033
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: didn't work out for me. I was, it wouldn't built

1034
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: for me. I just couldn't do it. I just I

1035
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: got compassion. I don't know, you should be. You can't

1036
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: have nohing, you can't have no like.

1037
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 5: You know, I really feel like I could be a

1038
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 5: really good pimp, but I got this other good ass

1039
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: job called rapping.

1040
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 2: I can't got that.

1041
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 5: Every time you dabble in some pimping and this is

1042
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 5: getting a few g's, she getting some g's bringing I'm like,

1043
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: you just did all that stressing me the funk out right,

1044
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 5: And that wasn't number two shows to me because.

1045
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: They can't they can't touch the money they're supposed to

1046
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: bring the money back.

1047
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: That's a real pim.

1048
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: So you're just having a good month, you get uh

1049
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: walking around kind you get like fifteen twenty racks out

1050
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 5: the bitch of the month. That's a few shows. That's

1051
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 5: a couple of shows. That's never she's gonna stress you

1052
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 5: the funk out.

1053
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: For thirty days.

1054
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1055
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: Keep that ship. You w do a show they sucked after?

1056
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: So how does it feel, Chris? Because you you did

1057
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: a song with jay Z and Biggie Small.

1058
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: I need to multiple songs and bok yeah and and snoop.

1059
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 5: How that's That's something I'm really proud of in a career,

1060
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: super super super olg in a career. I am the

1061
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: thought that all those guys are gonna be, you know, legends.

1062
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: No they they are on the other.

1063
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: But when we're all gone, you know, I just want

1064
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: to be in that.

1065
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: To repertoire and boom doogs too. Right?

1066
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 5: Did we do a song? I'm not just make songs.

1067
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: I don't even know. Maybe I ain't gonna them the hommies.

1068
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: Up, My nigga, just told you I did the song

1069
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: on your album.

1070
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: You ain't even remember. You were sitting there, like word

1071
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: you did? You did so much song. You're a legend.

1072
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: You're legend.

1073
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 5: We got a bang that song on What the funk

1074
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 5: was the hook? I pulls up my phone right now.

1075
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: We believe you checking out having job job, But sure, man,

1076
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: how about you, like all these years, how do you

1077
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: maintain your love for hip hop? How does that happen?

1078
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: Because I like that new ship. I ain't gonna lie.

1079
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: I like you like the new. I like what it happens.

1080
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 5: And I'm not talking about the new right now. I'm

1081
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: talking about every time the new, every time it changes,

1082
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: because you know that when you're the nigga, it's like sports.

1083
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: It's like the fucking hood.

1084
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: When you're the nigga and that next nigga come up

1085
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 5: like the super stud and start getting a little more

1086
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: attention to you, you start feeling the kind of way

1087
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 5: and you still feel the same for that nigga though

1088
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 5: I'm that nigga.

1089
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: Who's getting money.

1090
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 5: Who if I see a young nigga getting it, I'm like,

1091
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 5: nig get it, nigga, Like I'm that's real.

1092
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: Man.

1093
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: You understand what you just said. Let's make some noise

1094
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: for that everybody camera.

1095
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: That's real because I'm promoting that ship. Let's all get it.

1096
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 5: Let's get it, you know what I'm saying. And then

1097
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 5: when you get it, you're wrong if you don't pass

1098
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 5: it on it's all work. You're wrong if you don't

1099
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 5: share this some kind of way. Don't give it away,

1100
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 5: but teach the next nigga how to get it too, because.

1101
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: You always had fun with the game. Like every time

1102
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: I seen you, I don't care where I see you at.

1103
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: You're walking through you looking good.

1104
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like there's other people who

1105
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 5: don't do that. You know what happens. Those blessings they

1106
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 5: come around, man, It's come back around. There's been a

1107
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: time in my life where ship was fucked up, and

1108
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 5: that's a fuck that ship. And then somebody who I

1109
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 5: showed that love to is like, what's wrong man? You know,

1110
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 5: and instantly and then not.

1111
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: For the love and I buy my man, mister fab

1112
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: you mister fab.

1113
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: That's my dude, that's like my son.

1114
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: My god, this makes a noise for mister Faby too

1115
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: short signs.

1116
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: Damn god, damn it.

1117
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: We just saw him in south By, Southwest with cows.

1118
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, thirty years of rapping cows cows.

1119
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: That's my nigga.

1120
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's my nigga. That's my brother. Thirty years

1121
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: of rapping.

1122
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1123
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 5: I'm like we were getting money other ways we can

1124
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 5: do this ship with it without the microphone.

1125
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: We can get down right, but you still enjoy what

1126
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: you do.

1127
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 5: Fab came to me and uh and was like, man's

1128
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 5: been wrapping thirty years. You got to make an album.

1129
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 5: So I'm doing an album called the thirtieth Anniversary. And

1130
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: my man came in the kind of a and R

1131
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 5: on my album for me, just you know, just kind

1132
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: of just kind of like.

1133
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing.

1134
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: Whole bunch of ship were doing the hoods and ship

1135
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 5: and just just just like put a nigg in shape,

1136
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 5: like you know, you get a nigg in shape right right,

1137
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 5: you got a nigga shape.

1138
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: For a gets album.

1139
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: So I got I'm an old ass nigga. I just

1140
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: turned fifty like last Thursday.

1141
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 2: Nah, man, this makes a noise for his turn to fifty.

1142
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: Goddamn yeah, nigga.

1143
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: Nigga hit motherfucker.

1144
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: We had carrrass One here and he had a air

1145
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: our pe card. It's correct, yeah, our Peak card.

1146
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: You know my age.

1147
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he definitely said he's fifty. Okay, he

1148
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: definitely said he's fifty. Ain't nothing wrong. But you know

1149
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: what's crazy? Short, You you look young. You're doing young

1150
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: ship and you still have the love for it, Like

1151
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: I could look at you when I ask you these questions.

1152
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: You really still love hip hop?

1153
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: No, it's the hustle.

1154
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 5: I'm about to get on the mic and wrap in

1155
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 5: front of the crowd tonight and a ship tonight.

1156
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: I grabbed the mic and lived last night, you know,

1157
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: damn it and live. We should have went to live.

1158
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. I was so tired last we

1159
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: had a long. We had a long.

1160
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: I wish I knew you was there. So you never

1161
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 5: lost your love for hip hop? Now once now for rap?

1162
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: Now no now because he could be lean with it,

1163
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: rock with it. Niggas is that they okay? Like you

1164
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 5: gotta you got a bunch of motherfuckers that like this

1165
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: new we ship. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. Shi,

1166
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 5: It is weird. These motherfuckers like it. I try to

1167
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: get around and figure out what is it that they like.

1168
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 5: It must be the infectious beat, it must be the catchy,

1169
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: it must be the way to make it dance. It's

1170
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: something good about it. So I'm like, I'm like, oh,

1171
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: I get it. I try to get it, Like, why

1172
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 5: is your niggas dressing all weird. Oh, I get it

1173
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: if it makes sense if you.

1174
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 3: If they're dressing all weird, I don't know.

1175
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: I don't get that part.

1176
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 5: But they don't want to be like us, don't want.

1177
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: Kids and their defence when you look at them, like

1178
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: the first printures of hip hop, the first person he's dressing.

1179
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: Yes, these little niggas that we call them weird right

1180
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: now the niggas is trying to look like the eighties.

1181
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: With the Golden Ship.

1182
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: So so with that being said, and you being a pimp,

1183
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: you being a real nigga. I've never heard too short

1184
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: in a controversy other than when you ran from police.

1185
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: That was crazy. What happen when you ran for police?

1186
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Just talk about that.

1187
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: I was in l I had an apartment. I had

1188
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: an apartment right across the street from right here from

1189
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: where I was running from apart. I was about to

1190
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 5: dip up in the spot. And then it's nothing that

1191
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 5: ain't being done before.

1192
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful. I'm just saying that it was crazy.

1193
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: We walked, bro, we walked the line. I talked to

1194
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 5: that brother. I was like, man, I did all the tests,

1195
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: all this ship. I wasn't even drunk. I was like

1196
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: it had been. It was three thirty. The drinking had

1197
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 5: stopped a while ago. I was gonna walk these bitches

1198
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: to the.

1199
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Car, okay, because the bus is let's make some noise,

1200
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: man keeping it.

1201
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: And I still don't call these bitches bitches because after

1202
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 5: I got in all the trouble, they never called back

1203
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: once to say to you, okay, you listen. It was

1204
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: just some bitches I met that night. Walk these bitches

1205
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 5: to the car. I said, you know, you know what,

1206
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 5: I live right over there. It's like about a block

1207
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: and a half. Said, I'm gonna drive it all over

1208
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: this thirty one and hang out ho spot. I'm gonna

1209
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: driving all over there. Drove him over there and hit

1210
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 5: a little you turn to come back. Nigga, turn the

1211
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: light on me. He made me do all this ship

1212
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 5: And you know the nigga who saw the video, the

1213
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 5: TMZ was like one of the security dudes from the club.

1214
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: I was like, it was all right there in the

1215
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 5: neighborhood that was like a supper club I went to

1216
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 5: that night Tuesday night. I'm like, even even that nigga,

1217
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 5: I heard the nigga sold the video for like five

1218
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 5: hundred days, like we would have gave me five thousand.

1219
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: That bullshit nigga out there. But it was some good press, though,

1220
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 5: I like, I do like the good press that you

1221
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 5: get when you get to.

1222
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's that type.

1223
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: Is that the first time you realize the power Internet,

1224
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: or you've been new with the power.

1225
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 5: That was the first time I realized I was in

1226
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: my forties, because you can get the right make showed

1227
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 5: the building. I said, dude, I live right there. I said,

1228
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: you got. I said, I leave this motherfucker here or whatever. Man,

1229
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 5: just this, I live right there. You know. He's like,

1230
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: you gotta blow for me. I'm like, man, I told

1231
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 5: the nigga, I said, Man, I might not. I was

1232
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 5: drinking earlier.

1233
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: I just was. I told the whole story. I'm like,

1234
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: fucking right there.

1235
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: A lot of times a copy be like, all right, man,

1236
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 5: just you know, leave it here, you know, go home,

1237
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: like you gotta blow. I was like, is that my

1238
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 5: only option? That was the last thing I asked you.

1239
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: You deny it?

1240
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly, that's one of the ones I

1241
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 5: regret because I have some converse low cut the Chuck tailors. Yeah,

1242
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: the Chuck Taylors. Yeah, you can't run those, and I

1243
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: was I was just mad because I was like, those.

1244
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Are like the Kanye West news nigas.

1245
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: You can't.

1246
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're running those. It's over for you.

1247
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: Think I had like another bra still at the spot,

1248
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, I gotta get back. It ain't over.

1249
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: It like shit going up. So this is real deal.

1250
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: You really have broads, Like wherever every city you go,

1251
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: you have broads or you stop that.

1252
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you like this.

1253
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: At this at this stage in the game, I'm not

1254
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 5: trying to be young short dog anymore.

1255
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I used to go when.

1256
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 5: I go out, I'm like call fee homies, Like you know,

1257
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: I hang out a lot.

1258
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: Of chicks at like eight teen, we go out.

1259
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: That was my normal. I might do some like that tonight,

1260
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 5: but really, uh tonight.

1261
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm in Miami. You want me to

1262
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: hang with you tonight? I want to just see how.

1263
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: It goes down.

1264
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm in Miami, so I'm really not the one.

1265
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: You've been doing this in Miami for the long time.

1266
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 5: But I'm not coordinating the chicks. It's like Miami is

1267
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 5: like you know the girls, they do it they just.

1268
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Like you've got the girls who coordinate the girls.

1269
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: They just they make them hot. Five five for that.

1270
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying is back in the day,

1271
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: I would literally get my phone and call like these two,

1272
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 5: those two those to meet me. I did that ship

1273
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 5: up until about three or four years ago. I kind

1274
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 5: of just like chilled it out a little bit. Now

1275
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: now I might go out with like two or three

1276
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: and just you know. Another secret to what I do

1277
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: is a lot of guys. They try to fuck all

1278
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: the women. I just try to hang out with them. Man,

1279
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: just hang out, be cool and shit happens. Be cool.

1280
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's the secret weapon for you.

1281
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: Chartie Skins didn't.

1282
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Secret who else.

1283
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: You gotta tell?

1284
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: Sonny a d B.

1285
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: He knows about the make some noise for a horny mo.

1286
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: If you we got honing.

1287
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: Montana, let me call them my group, like crew.

1288
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: If you're a horny Montana like if if if you

1289
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: want to suck everything, you're like me personally. I've seen

1290
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: a couple of my horny dudes we and bur let

1291
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: me pronounce this way Berlin, Germany. I've seen my my

1292
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: homie finger pop a bitch in the butt in the club.

1293
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: Not in the club, the finger popping in the butt.

1294
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: I say, slime, this is not this is I'm uncomfortable

1295
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: with this situation. I actually can't. I can't partake. He's like, no,

1296
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: this is how we're doing it, like in the butt

1297
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: in the club. I gotta skill out.

1298
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: I gotta leave, you know what I mean.

1299
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of horny people. Yeah, so that's

1300
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: how pimps.

1301
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: I got a hommy. I got a homy. He uh.

1302
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 5: He was kind of like kind of timid kind of guy. Man.

1303
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 5: It wasn't really like aggressive with the ladies. But then

1304
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: you know, he kind of he had He's like a

1305
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 5: rock star kind of nigga that kind of wore.

1306
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: This like ponytail ship like standing nigga.

1307
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 5: And he wanted to hang out with us one night,

1308
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 5: and I was like, dude, you can't. Where are we going?

1309
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 5: You can't get down like that. So we literally set

1310
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: the niggas somewhere. He was going from Oakland, but he

1311
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 5: was passing through. We sent the nigga down to where

1312
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 5: the pimps get their hair downe the ship and got

1313
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 5: him a pimp hair due out of his you know,

1314
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 5: we turned him into like a looking them out, told

1315
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 5: the nigga on a certain kind of clothes, and then

1316
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: he got to the party.

1317
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: He's like, still the same nigga?

1318
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 5: Like, what do I do?

1319
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 2: Still square?

1320
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 5: I said, a nigga the way you look, just walk

1321
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 5: up to every bitch and say, I'm Mike bitch, Mike.

1322
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: Boris we pivper you up?

1323
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 5: Guess we came back and told me at the party.

1324
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: Later on, he said, nigga, that ship works.

1325
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I hung out with Bishop

1326
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: dog Wall for like a whole weekend. He had me gas. Right.

1327
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: So what happened was they gave me a famous player card.

1328
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: You remember the famous player card.

1329
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: It was gold. They gave me nine one seven on there,

1330
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: and they asked me to come to the uh Player

1331
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: player ball. I got there and then I you know,

1332
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on road for real, like, but I

1333
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: took two days out of my schedule. I walked in

1334
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: the players players ship. It was a white bitch that

1335
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: was I'm walking in the white bitch saying, hey, how

1336
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: you doing? You know me, I don't even know if

1337
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: she asked me to take a picture. She asked me

1338
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: something and I said, bit you better play up. I

1339
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: definitely didn't know, and she chose me. I said, bit

1340
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: you better choose before you know. I don't know why

1341
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: I said that. And the and bishop darl Ma, what's

1342
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: my nigga? Juju juju, all of them.

1343
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: All of them was trying to knock me.

1344
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: They say, you know, and the white bitch kept staying

1345
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: by me, and I said.

1346
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 5: I don't know what I did.

1347
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did. You didn't get the

1348
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: minimum and they get the memoir the pimp correctly, and

1349
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: then I wanted to pass off, but she really didn't

1350
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: want to be pad.

1351
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: You haven't seen that nigga.

1352
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 5: He got about. He always got about five or six holes.

1353
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 5: His bitches got to stare at the ground. They can't

1354
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 5: look up that he now, what about break him down.

1355
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 5: It's kind of funny though, because his bitches sit somewhere,

1356
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: even when they sit down the whole china at they

1357
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: can never look up. They have to look at the ground,

1358
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 5: and they be sitting there talking to each other. And

1359
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: then if you dare, you know, I'm a little crazy guy,

1360
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: nigg So I just try to funk with him and

1361
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 5: break a little bit and be like how y'all doing.

1362
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: They can't speak to no outside man nothing, They can't.

1363
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: Ever look at sounds crazy.

1364
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: That's him out. That's just like you're wearing your jewelry.

1365
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: He's wearing it.

1366
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: He's showing you his pipping.

1367
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: He's like.

1368
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 5: I could have told him, bitches, to look straight at heere.

1369
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 5: I could have told them, bitches just in the circle.

1370
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: They woke in the circle down look.

1371
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 5: That don't never look up, don't talk to anybody except

1372
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 5: me or each other.

1373
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. And that's just this how I

1374
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't ready for pipping because my white bitch

1375
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: did that. My white bitch was just like, she wouldn't

1376
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: look at it ready for said I was pimp Juju

1377
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: and pimp and can and they both stepped to me

1378
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and say, they said, you're playing.

1379
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: You don't know what you're doing right now.

1380
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I said, I got to whop me leave on alone,

1381
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: and she just kept looking at That's how I knew she.

1382
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 5: Was more pressous. Niggas who pimp and niggas who have

1383
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: pimp game and are of it, we do.

1384
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: So it's a difference pimping and having pimp gag. Because

1385
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: I like the way you broke that.

1386
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 5: Having pimp game means that I probably could apply it.

1387
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 5: But I'm just I'm doing other ship living is stressful.

1388
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: Man, be stressful. Break that down for it short.

1389
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 5: Now you tell you telling the women to do the

1390
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 5: stuff she's doing, they are fucking like repercussions to that ship,

1391
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 5: man like mentally like if its people's heads up.

1392
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: So you can deal with that ship because you're telling

1393
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: them to go on the calling and.

1394
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 5: You're saying, don't fuck with nobody with me. So when

1395
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 5: every time every emotion she goes through is coming to.

1396
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: You, So let me ask you something. After they do that,

1397
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: they give you the money, do you have to make

1398
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: them feel like your girlfriend?

1399
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: Like they got to feel love?

1400
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: You gotta do it. You gotta do this ship. Man,

1401
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: it's a lot of ship like. If you want to

1402
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 5: really actually your chick, if you want to be a

1403
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: boss PM, you have to be focused.

1404
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 2: That's what you do.

1405
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: I've never heard this term because you say boss.

1406
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that means you're in control. You on a run

1407
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 5: for a while.

1408
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: You got you can go to another statement. She's still you,

1409
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: still the boss pimp.

1410
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: And you know they call that long range pimping. You

1411
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: pull her anywhere. Hold on, let's make some hold on

1412
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: long range. I heard a long range five. You're homie

1413
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: over there. I be like long range Niga.

1414
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 5: In Hawaii. You fly back to la and you come

1415
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: back three months later, and she got like forty seven

1416
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 5: thousand and just be like here. She didn't protected the money,

1417
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 5: she didn't protected herself.

1418
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: And now now do you have to have sex with

1419
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: these women or.

1420
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: You just you could just so this this is where

1421
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 5: I get fucked up.

1422
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: Break it down for me, sure, because I'm gonna let

1423
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: call it now.

1424
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 5: I'm always I've always considered myself to be a pimp

1425
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 5: and a player.

1426
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: I do have the pimp game, but I.

1427
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: Don't what is the difference been pimping a player player?

1428
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 5: You just you got the game to just run a

1429
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 5: bunch of chicks, but you don't want any interest in

1430
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 5: their money or them selling that.

1431
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: You're just a player. You just play, Okay, play the game.

1432
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: You get money, you're getting you get you're getting slid.

1433
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 5: Actually yeah, okay, So I consider myself to be a

1434
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: pimp player. Man, it's just like you know, I don't

1435
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 5: really Yeah, we don't have to.

1436
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm not gonna lie.

1437
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: You made me pop my collar like seventeen hundred times,

1438
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep popping.

1439
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: We'll put that back. You know, if you got to

1440
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 5: really get a lot of games, just play it back,

1441
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 5: listen to it.

1442
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: It's you know, isn't it the game?

1443
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Like you really studying? It goes by married I am,

1444
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lame. I'm sorry, but but in my mind,

1445
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm gona try to be a pimp, like every time

1446
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: I go to sleep, like, yeah, I'm gonna try to.

1447
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 5: But we are we are all always students of life.

1448
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 5: We are we get down, always learning, We always learning.

1449
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: You know what I was gonna tell you by my uh, Dominicans.

1450
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: Puerto Rica is just the case you go Dominican.

1451
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: But it's okay.

1452
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: It's a New York story, man, Okay, in New York,

1453
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's do it. But I was you baby,

1454
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: Dominican Republic. I had a little New York too.

1455
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 5: I had a little running in with the with the

1456
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 5: the hip hop hoies. Niggas hit me, hit me up

1457
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 5: in the taxi cabs and uh and just a nigga

1458
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: had like we had a strap in the car and

1459
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 5: we had a like a little answer weed.

1460
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 2: We used to go up town.

1461
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 5: We used to go up to the candy shop in Harlem,

1462
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 5: hu and you know, get the.

1463
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: They gonna call it the candy shop. You know what

1464
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: you talk. We used to get to the good that

1465
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: good jo.

1466
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: In the Jaws or in the motherfucker try and go bang.

1467
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Look at your hold on with Eddie, God bless the

1468
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: day you know he died, did Eddie looked?

1469
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: First off? Let me just let me just stop too

1470
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: short right now.

1471
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: He just flousht onto everybody on a real New York

1472
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: This is the in the real New York Times. He

1473
01:02:54,680 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: just mentioned Branson. What you said daytime in Branson, Eddie, Eddie,

1474
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: that's who run the spot.

1475
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: That was my nigga. Continue the story.

1476
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 5: So you know we we uh, we're riding around the

1477
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 5: ship and the niggas pull us over in these fucking

1478
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 5: taxi cabs. None of them got on uniforms. They fucking

1479
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 5: flashing badges and ship. They actually take us out, put us.

1480
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 5: It's four niggas in the truck. They put each of

1481
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 5: us in a different cab and I get in there

1482
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 5: like three niggas in each cab. They jump in my truck.

1483
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 5: Drive the motherfucker and we go to like some thirty

1484
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 5: seventh Street precinct, some ship somewhere thirty six thirty seven

1485
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 5: and and uh and the nigga ended up basically, a

1486
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 5: nigga ended up at a center street. This was a

1487
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 5: one street down there, and I passed by.

1488
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: H you was in the real first off, right Now,

1489
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: if they lock you up up there, they have apprecing

1490
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: they bring you to. That means that back in the days,

1491
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: they had to lock you up up there and bring

1492
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: you yeah way down.

1493
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, we're in there is about the day and

1494
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 5: a half of the day, and then they got bail

1495
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 5: out a little later. But I walked by this one

1496
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 5: holding tank and I've seen these jet jet black ass niggas,

1497
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 5: like black ass nappy head niggas in there, and they're

1498
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 5: all speaking Spanish, and I just was like that ships

1499
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 5: weird to me to fuk out.

1500
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know you thought they was black. I didn't.

1501
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: On the West Coast, we got no nappy.

1502
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: Head don't have many much yesterday.

1503
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: Yesterday's black under me, we don't have nappy had niggas.

1504
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 5: I get back up, I get out of jail and

1505
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 5: go to the jive records. I was like, I've seen

1506
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 5: the weirdest ship in the jail, niggas speaking Spanish with

1507
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 5: down here dominicuss.

1508
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: That's fact.

1509
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: Too short makings.

1510
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 5: Got hold on. After that, After that, I made a point.

1511
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna meet some of these Spanish niggas,

1512
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 5: like for real. I met the Dominican niggas right at

1513
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 5: the gas station and they popped at me on some

1514
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 5: uh we know you made you too short, you know,

1515
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 5: random ship that happens in New York. I don't get

1516
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: spotted a lot back then, back in the day in

1517
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: New York. And uh, they said that they got to

1518
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 5: get weed, and they sent me up to I don't know, man,

1519
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 5: I just you know you like Dyke, like one hundred

1520
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 5: and eighty fourth Washington.

1521
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: Was yeah, I up.

1522
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 5: And then basically if I wasn't going to Branson, I

1523
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 5: was going up there, but I spoke I just hang

1524
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 5: out New York. Last.

1525
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. This This is not a

1526
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: lot of listen. Listen, well he just broke down for you.

1527
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: There's people in New York who couldn't get weed in

1528
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: Branson because you have to have a certain type of

1529
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: plug to be accepted. You have to be accepted in Branson.

1530
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: One time I went Branson. Redman was back there serving

1531
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: the weed.

1532
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: That was my sponsor. That's what that gave me my plug.

1533
01:05:59,480 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 5: Red Man.

1534
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's make some noise from red Man. Damn it.

1535
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: One time she took me there, I was like, you

1536
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'll tell you one time I

1537
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: went to Branson.

1538
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it real with you, too short.

1539
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: It's one of my idols. It's gonna hurt me to

1540
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: tell a story, but I'm gonna tell a story. I

1541
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: went up there.

1542
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: It's the Porto Rican de Beat. I'm Puerto Rican.

1543
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry half I'm half Puerto Rican, but I'm just

1544
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: giving you. But you know, yeah, thank you, thank you,

1545
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: thank you. So but this day I'm Puerto Rican, right.

1546
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: So I go to Brands and I bought my ship.

1547
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown pulled up in the six hundred binds. To me,

1548
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: it was like Prince when he pulled up, purple smoke

1549
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: pulled out. It was a six hundred bins. I was like, damn, like,

1550
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, I know niggas got six hundred bins, but

1551
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: I ain't actually seen it. Bobby Brown pulls up right,

1552
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: bro t, Yes, what's up, nigga? So he pulls up

1553
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: Boom Bobby Brown. So he goes in said, I'm sitting

1554
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: there like, oh ship, Bobby motherfucking Brown. He looked at

1555
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: me though. He looked at me like this, like like

1556
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm right here. He looked at me like this, and

1557
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: then he going Branson right, I'm like, damn, niggas is

1558
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: like you're supposed.

1559
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: To say, ha, Like I don't know.

1560
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: The nigga eyes is right next to my chat right.

1561
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown comes out and then he goes, yo, it's

1562
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: the porte Dave read right.

1563
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: I think me pon Joe.

1564
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: We all on the float this day, but I had

1565
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: took a break afterwards. I finished what we had to do,

1566
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 1: and I went up to you, and then Bobby Brown

1567
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: said to me, this is mad racist, by the way.

1568
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: He said for me. He said to me, ain't you

1569
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican? I said yeah.

1570
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: He said, you ain't got no cold.

1571
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: Cor I was like, you gotta.

1572
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: You gotta realize in New York City, if you're from

1573
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: New York City, it's a couple. There's a couple of

1574
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: us here. When the porter we they parade shut down

1575
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: like uptown to the right and shut down too, because

1576
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: they all over there and so when they went there,

1577
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: I guess Bobby went there. He couldn't he couldn't get

1578
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: nothing from the coke spot. So he said, is your

1579
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican?

1580
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like yeah, He's like, take me.

1581
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: Over there, and I was like, damn, why why do

1582
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: you think I could get you the coke because of

1583
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican.

1584
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 2: Let's make a noise, body.

1585
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: Brown for.

1586
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: The positive side of that store.

1587
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: The positive.

1588
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he's who was he with?

1589
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: He was with his security.

1590
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I know I know the nigga sometimes and

1591
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 5: be like without security with that same bands riding up

1592
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 5: in any motherfucking hood an that nigga, Bobby takes a

1593
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 5: certain cloth to be that kind of nigga, to be

1594
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 5: that kind of nigga, Know what I'm saying.

1595
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 2: You said, come on with you?

1596
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm luckily for God to bad because

1597
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: this is my hero. Like you know, I'm younger because

1598
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm younger at this especially twice already, Bobby Brown. Listen,

1599
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: we by ground where we had him. Wherever you at,

1600
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: we need you two shortest in the head. Man.

1601
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 5: I'm telling Bobby's a classic man. Bobby, He's a classic.

1602
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: He's always been my nigga.

1603
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: I remember when Jou was actually from the video h

1604
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: when John and Boby Brown and I actually I was

1605
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 1: in l A.

1606
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 5: He was at that video.

1607
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't at the video.

1608
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 5: He was held the video the ecstasy video that's called

1609
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 5: the video.

1610
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: Ecstasy was ruling ship at one points. Let's make a

1611
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: noise that.

1612
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 5: Everybody, white girl.

1613
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: Listen, shut man.

1614
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you for coming out being a great sport.

1615
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 5: Are you going to read the champagne with us? And

1616
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 5: I keep it hard?

1617
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: Pauls? What are you doing? What is that my time

1618
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: for now?

1619
01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 5: My time?

1620
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: We switched it a little. It's just a little regulars.

1621
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 2: We switched.

1622
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: I want to have one with Short excuse me, shout outside.

1623
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: You know you got you got the other.

1624
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: We got recognized my brother.

1625
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: We gotta shot the slow pope man for making this happen.

1626
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: Can we get two and bineapples? Cause I gotta have

1627
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: a drink with ah. But you got close to pineapple

1628
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: like apple? All right?

1629
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: It works for me, so too, Short Man.

1630
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: You've been coming to Miami for a long time with

1631
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: Miami to Luke stories No two life.

1632
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I look man, I've been on I've been on

1633
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 5: the goddamn Luke's peep show twice. I mean back in.

1634
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: How can I be downadays?

1635
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: But how did you feel when Luke they tried to

1636
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: parent your advisor to him because you had to be

1637
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: right behind him.

1638
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: If they would have did that to you know him,

1639
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: that to you.

1640
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 5: You know, just like you said, you see me walking

1641
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 5: through smooth. I walked through that ship, real smooth. They

1642
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 5: never came at my door. They suck with the n

1643
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 5: w A. They fuck the ghetto boys. They they never

1644
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: they never hollered at me.

1645
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't make too short for escaping. I couldn't remember.

1646
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: They never like, what's what's the chick name that that

1647
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 1: tupac tip.

1648
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: She was?

1649
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: She was?

1650
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: She was trying to shut down and never had my

1651
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: name on the list.

1652
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 5: They were talking about the ship I was doing, which

1653
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 5: if they would have passed some laws they probably would

1654
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 5: affected me.

1655
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: But I know, think about.

1656
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 5: This, What do you think about the fact that that

1657
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 5: ship could.

1658
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: Have actually happened.

1659
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 5: What if it had been like we live in the

1660
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 5: country where they said you can't cuss on your rep

1661
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 5: socks crazy.

1662
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: I would have existed.

1663
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: We would have never existed.

1664
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 5: I would have never I think about it. It would

1665
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 5: have been like bootleg and liquor. We would have been

1666
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 5: out there in the streets slanging dirty raps.

1667
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: It would have been more expensive, maybe make more money.

1668
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,480
Speaker 5: It had been money.

1669
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: Prohibition straight up.

1670
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: And you still, I just wanted to ask you this

1671
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: question before we wrap it up. Still actually loved this life?

1672
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: I swear to God.

1673
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: You see his face?

1674
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: Man, You still like did you?

1675
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 2: You never fell in love with this life out of love?

1676
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 5: Excuse me, I'm gonna tell you like this, man, I

1677
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 5: ain't really like to you.

1678
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: With the jail and all that. Like you, you just

1679
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 2: came home like that was only jail five weeks. Nigga,

1680
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: Just make no noise.

1681
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: You used to go to jail five weeks, but you're

1682
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: still going to.

1683
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 5: You Okay, you know what. I didn't go to jails,

1684
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 5: young nigga. I was a nigga, was jet.

1685
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: You went to jails, grown ass man, and how I

1686
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: was your bunkies.

1687
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: They had to be like too short, watch out? Too short?

1688
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: Is yead?

1689
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 5: You gotta go look my nigga up. The nigga that

1690
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 5: was next to me, Uh, he's uh. He's got a

1691
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 5: high profile case in l A. They call him the

1692
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 5: grim Sleeper that doesn't even sound right, sounds dangerous. Just

1693
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 5: break down the great sleep extremely polite brother intelligence talk

1694
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 5: to you.

1695
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: Those are the dangerous guys. Whatever, the guys respectful.

1696
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 5: Nigga showing how to cook with just some hot water

1697
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 5: and ship.

1698
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: You know you know what I mean, we would We wouldn't.

1699
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 5: I was in the fire with the celebrity ship though,

1700
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 5: where you can't Nick can't actually walking up.

1701
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: On you and ship. I was just chilling. But talk

1702
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: about that guy. Don't get me up. I just gave

1703
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: you and and and he he he was.

1704
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: It was only he was only because he was because

1705
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,879
Speaker 1: he was high profile.

1706
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what the high profile person.

1707
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: That's what I was saying. I was in the same spot.

1708
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 5: Sugar Knight was that, but previously with me to get

1709
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 5: in there.

1710
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: There was a room with Sugar Knight trying to sign

1711
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: you at one point to sign everybody.

1712
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: Tell me about that shot before you leave from the

1713
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: bag too.

1714
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1715
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, they put me in jail. Chris Brown was a

1716
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 5: ship that was in that jail. It was just Joe

1717
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: get TV right in front of you sell just you know, niggas,

1718
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 5: nobody fuck with you. But Sugar Knight came to me

1719
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 5: like he came to everybody else, Well, I'm doing my

1720
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: own thing. I'm independent. You know, I never I never

1721
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 5: had a boss. I've never been signing nobody. And uh,

1722
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 5: he just said, he said the West Coast is he said,

1723
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 5: Death Row is home to the West Coast.

1724
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: I know where this is going.

1725
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm like, show you know you knew it

1726
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 5: was going to So he's like, he's like, man.

1727
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: Come on over to differ.

1728
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 5: I'll get you off jibe.

1729
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: How long didst you just said that one more time?

1730
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: How you said it?

1731
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 5: Come on over to death Roll.

1732
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: The wars that everybody he said, come on over to

1733
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: death Roll.

1734
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 5: So you know I ain't I'm not a scary nigga

1735
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: because I with some real niggas that we know that

1736
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 5: we have no reason to be scared. And then.

1737
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm a smart nigga. But where's this at. We're in

1738
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: the fucking nightclub in Atlanta.

1739
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: And wait, Sugar was in Atlanta and you was running

1740
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: the land at that time, because.

1741
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: Was the worst person. I was a factor in the city.

1742
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: I was.

1743
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 5: I said, come on over to death Yeah, and it

1744
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 5: wasn't me. It wasn't me being a bully. He was

1745
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 5: saying this ship like two niggas talking. He was like,

1746
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 5: you know, man, actually a cool dude that he was being.

1747
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 5: I could see it that it was like a push

1748
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 5: kind of because the actually kind of probably put a

1749
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 5: little weight, like you know, it didn't it didn't. It

1750
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 5: wasn't no kind of threat, but he kind of like

1751
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 5: I felt a little weight. It was like at the

1752
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 5: time he said it, like so he's kind of pushing

1753
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: up on me a little bit, but in a friendly

1754
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 5: kind of way. And I just said, I was like, man,

1755
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 5: I ain't trying. I ain't trying to wrap no more. Man,

1756
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm starting to lave. I'm about to do my label.

1757
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm right now, I ain't trying to wrap no more.

1758
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,560
Speaker 5: But you know, that was like nineteen ninety five or

1759
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 5: some ship.

1760
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 2: It's because I also heard jay Z try to sign

1761
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: you too.

1762
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 5: Jay never tried to sign j J just would always

1763
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 5: call me to do some work with him.

1764
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that room was false. He never tried

1765
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 2: to sign me.

1766
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 5: I probably would have probably probably would have went that

1767
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 5: route because just you know, just to be around that.

1768
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: They respect you like a mother fer everybody respect you short.

1769
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: Just in case you don't know, let me let me

1770
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: just let me just tell you you are well respected,

1771
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 1: well connected.

1772
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: We love you on the.

1773
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: East Coast to the West Coast to round Man, we

1774
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: walked that down south. You are a guy who laid

1775
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: out the platform for all of us to do it.

1776
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: You're still as cool as hell. I can't believe how

1777
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: cool you are.

1778
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: A motherfucker.

1779
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. When the interview is old, I'm

1780
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you, how can I be.

1781
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: As cool as you? That's all I want to do.

1782
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: Like, I want to ask you because you're the coolest guy.

1783
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: You like how you do that like and you still

1784
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: love the game. I got to keep asking you in

1785
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: different ways, like why would you the guy that say

1786
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: teller man hip hop?

1787
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 5: I told you iceed to been a studio with the

1788
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 5: og is my first studio experience with some old professional niggas.

1789
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 5: And these niggas had some of them, you know, it

1790
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 5: was in it some of them that came and went

1791
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 5: and you know they talked about to days and they

1792
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: toured the world and they was in the van or whatever,

1793
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 5: and the niggas said. One of the niggas was one

1794
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 5: of the members of the Dramatics. He was one of

1795
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 5: the niggas. But he was one of the niggas that

1796
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 5: got kicked out the group, and he experienced a few

1797
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 5: hit records and and you know, Nigga tour and then

1798
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: he and then the ship left him and he was like, man,

1799
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 5: he was like, dude, whatever you do. He was like,

1800
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: he said, I feel like you're gonna be somebody to you. Yeah,

1801
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 5: he was like, whatever you do, you make it. He said,

1802
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 5: don't forget to have fun. And I kind of like

1803
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 5: took this ship life. I just kind of like took

1804
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 5: that ship and kind of adapted it in my own

1805
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 5: way that Okay, we're going on our first tour. You know,

1806
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 5: niggas is out there deep deep and ship niggas is

1807
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 5: out there complaining, fucking you know. I mean, we love

1808
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: l LL but LLLL used to not talk to rappers.

1809
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 5: Nigga didn't want to be friends with you. I'm talking

1810
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 5: about it. I don't get a worry. It was from

1811
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 5: niggas like I don't like rappers. He wouldn't hang out.

1812
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: I've been on tours all Oh my god, huge, Yeah, nigga,

1813
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 5: he would have. He had it rigged so that he

1814
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 5: could get from his dress room to the stage. You

1815
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 5: couldn't even see you wouldn't even see him. The he

1816
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 5: was had different ways of getting there and ship man.

1817
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,879
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying I just I was the opposite

1818
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 5: of that type of ship where I just was like, Man,

1819
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 5: I'm about to go and everybody's dressing room, We're gonna smoke,

1820
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 5: We're gonna chop all. You know what I'm saying.

1821
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: I'm fucking with everybody you know that's been a room

1822
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: about you is like Nigga.

1823
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 5: I used to used to do a show fifteen thousand

1824
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 5: motherfuckers in the crowd.

1825
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: I would get off stage and then I.

1826
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: Was on tour, like the first time I went on

1827
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: n w A, the one in the movie Straight Up Tomorrow.

1828
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: Let's break that down because you can't. You're saying it

1829
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: very obviously, but he said it so too cool. He

1830
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: said that one of the listen, listen, this is this

1831
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: is crazy. This set hot that whole era you was

1832
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: on that tour. I'm the group that went on right

1833
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: before n w A. That's was like, let's go on

1834
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 2: to you. That's amazing.

1835
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 5: Street right there.

1836
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: You make me forget my story down. You went on

1837
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: to all with n w A. Way that was your

1838
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: first you know.

1839
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 3: He was talking about how you interact with the crowd.

1840
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling I used to go on stage do

1841
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 5: my show fifteen twenty thousand motherfuckers, and right after I

1842
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 5: get off stage, I grabbed one of the homies because

1843
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 5: if you bring too many for you bring security or something,

1844
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 5: you're gonna cause the cause of fuss. Right after the show,

1845
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 5: in between my show and n w A, I will

1846
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 5: walk through the whole fun crowd, lights on and walk

1847
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: through people.

1848
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: You know, back then, niggas didn't have no camera phone, niggas.

1849
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 5: Nigga nigga have a pen. Niggas just would like just

1850
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 5: be like man, you know, to hey, what's up? And

1851
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: I just I just want to give your people will

1852
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 5: say what are your security? I'm like you my security, nigga.

1853
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 5: He's gonna do something to me, like you know, you

1854
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 5: know Reggie them did that ship and keep mrried Red

1855
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 5: manig that niggas was security nothing.

1856
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: They just walk around any fucking crowd.

1857
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 5: I do the same ship.

1858
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: I just tested out that I've never no but short

1859
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: you was a like a king man of a whole coast.

1860
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: It's different and you still to this day walk around

1861
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: the same way.

1862
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 5: It's because it's the love. Man, It's the love you

1863
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 5: be somewhere, and that love that makes a noise for

1864
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 5: the love you be somewhere. And somebody said, hey, man,

1865
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 5: you did you did something something. You made a song

1866
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 5: with my little brother and love something something, just you

1867
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 5: made a song with my little brother. Some random mass

1868
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 5: rappers somewhere, niggas like Nigga, all these niggas over here,

1869
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 5: these my niggas. You getting here right because I made

1870
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 5: a song with his little brother.

1871
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: So we're good that night.

1872
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: Now, you've always been good, mister lord. I don't know

1873
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: what kind of well, I don't know what kind of

1874
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: deal you may with God, but listen, I don't care

1875
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: where neighborhood is at.

1876
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 2: It's to pay for philosophy.

1877
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: Man. You gotta pay it, you leave it. But you

1878
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 5: learned a lot of shit in life. I'm just talking

1879
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 5: about the knowledge. I'm talking about material things. I'm just

1880
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 5: talking about the knowledge. You got to give it to

1881
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 5: everybody who deserves it. Man, you learned a lot of ship.

1882
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 5: I feel like niggas could have gave me a lot

1883
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 5: of you know, shortcuts could have helped me when I

1884
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 5: was a young nigga.

1885
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: You know they didn't help you, so now you want

1886
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: to help other people.

1887
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 5: You know some people didn't help you. Gotta you're gonna

1888
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 5: have this live and learn ship. Everybody gotta go through

1889
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 5: their journey, but help niggas.

1890
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: Then this past a little bit. I think we gotta

1891
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: make a noise for help niggas.

1892
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: Help mother fucking niggas. Man, listen, and you know what,

1893
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: short it's such a great guy yo. When you was

1894
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: on job, I believe you called me. I did a

1895
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: record with you for your album. Correct, I forget what's

1896
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: your name of the album? I forget.

1897
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,520
Speaker 2: That talk about it has on point.

1898
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: Job you can't with us.

1899
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: He just came home.

1900
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: So you just like with street niggas because I how

1901
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: did you know the fuck with me? Because I was

1902
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: a foul nigga at that time?

1903
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: You still I might have.

1904
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: Been I might have been platting them, but I was

1905
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: a foul nigga.

1906
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 5: Point the point of the song was niggas who niggas

1907
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 5: who are reptible in their area.

1908
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Right just just and it was like, you know because

1909
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: I was so I was, I was so honored, but

1910
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know him?

1911
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: Because you might shoot somebody when I leave him.

1912
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 5: You can't make you can't make a statement. You can't

1913
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 5: fuck with us. If there's no us.

1914
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: You five far you knew, man, knew what you doing.

1915
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: And then Pat Bottle did the jail time.

1916
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 5: Like this is I know in in North Carolina where

1917
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: he's from, the city rides with them and look at

1918
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 5: that nigga the city.

1919
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: I have done concerts.

1920
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 5: Like you know, you go to a city probably like

1921
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 5: hour and a half two hour driving where you're from.

1922
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: I have done concerts and took them there, all of

1923
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: Oakland with me.

1924
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 5: We show up a thousand deep and they're like, uh,

1925
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 5: like you know, nigga, were all coming in.

1926
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: Motherfucker, motherfucking we do that, still do that to this day.

1927
01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 5: We did this day.

1928
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm a niggas like that. They asked me how many

1929
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I got. I'll be like fall And then when I

1930
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: show up and be like four hundred like I said fall,

1931
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: I said fall, yeah, four hundreds like yeah, but too short, man.

1932
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. Just coming out sitting down,

1933
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, being a great sport about it or this

1934
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: is about it, just hip hop fans getting to understanding

1935
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: and and and and hear these stories. But before you

1936
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: go I want to say, how did you eat forty

1937
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: ever ahead hook up? Because he's another yeah, yeah, yeah

1938
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: legend forty.

1939
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: And because that's that's still your younger homie.

1940
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a little I got about a couple of

1941
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 5: two or three Okaya forty and his brother d Shot

1942
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 5: Okay was in the game. They were street niggas, and

1943
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 5: you know, they they dabbled, They they they moved the

1944
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 5: way around.

1945
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 2: So that's what that wle means.

1946
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: You learned something today, Let's make let's know what you'll

1947
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: learn something today dabbling goddamn it.

1948
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 5: But they probably did a little more than Delin.

1949
01:23:58,360 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: That was just playing.

1950
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 5: So I was just trying to be a PC, all right, Okay.

1951
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 5: So they actually used to do business with my niggas

1952
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 5: who I rode with to this day. My nigga niggas,

1953
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 5: my niggas.

1954
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 4: They was.

1955
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: They was youngsters getting money together.

1956
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 5: So there's a thing in the bay where you kind

1957
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 5: of you know, we were over here in Oakland, thirty

1958
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 5: miles over in Valayo, these Valao niggas and these Oakland niggas.

1959
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, we're gonna get down together. And

1960
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 5: you got a city like Richmond and rich master p can't. Yeah,

1961
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 5: So Richmond Niggas and Oakland niggas, like I don't really

1962
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 5: fuck with each other.

1963
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: It's like no gang shit.

1964
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 5: But it's just like we're just a little too wild

1965
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 5: to be friends because it never turns out good y'all

1966
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 5: two whiles to be friends with us. We two whiles,

1967
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 5: So we kind of try to either avoid each other

1968
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 5: or it's just it's just it's just many right maniacs shit.

1969
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 5: So so Valao Niggas and Oakland Niggas always been like

1970
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 5: kind of like sister city type shit. So we the

1971
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 5: niggas fuck with us. And E forty was my homie

1972
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 5: forever and ever and ever and ever where. We never

1973
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 5: made songs together. Were just homies, were the same. We'd

1974
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 5: see each other click. Everybody know each other. I know

1975
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 5: all these little brothers, I know his sister, I know

1976
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 5: the whole ship. Before we made a song, and we

1977
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 5: did a concert one of those radio stations, Summer Jams,

1978
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 5: Summer Jam, Summer Jam, and the niggas they had you

1979
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 5: ever heard the Loonies of course? Okay, so the loonies had,

1980
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 5: of course loonies, my homies, my young homies who they

1981
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 5: come from the cloth Man. They come from what I'm

1982
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 5: what I'm from the trinkle Down the game. The niggas

1983
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 5: who put out their records with my homie.

1984
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: They he said, to trinkle down. I don't know what

1985
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: that means, but I'm gonna take it. Make it make sense.

1986
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: They come from that.

1987
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 5: So so the Loonies had this song called Player Hater,

1988
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 5: and they say they was mad at me about this

1989
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 5: whole story.

1990
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: I can't tell you.

1991
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 5: They was mad at me on some on some inside

1992
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 5: ship and they said some ship about me.

1993
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: The song.

1994
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 5: They said, that's why the town got rid of short

1995
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 5: and they said it a year after I moved to Atlanta.

1996
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 5: So they sinuated and start this little buzz that maybe

1997
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 5: the Loonies was like, nigga, you gotta move out of town. Niggas,

1998
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 5: you can't be in Oaklan no more.

1999
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: Some ship.

2000
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 5: So I'm in Atlanta, having the time of my life,

2001
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 5: still mad as fucking this bullshit. So the radio station

2002
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 5: is holding what would be the hot ninety seven summer jam.

2003
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 5: It's one of those one o six in Atlanta and

2004
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 5: in uh uh, in Oakland and in the Bay. It's

2005
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 5: a kb on one O six summer jam. And I'm

2006
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 5: I'm the nigga who the radio station came to when

2007
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 5: they first started doing Summer Jam and said, hey, we

2008
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 5: need to like get some urban support. Can you be

2009
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: on the show. And I'm like, cool, I'm with you.

2010
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 5: So I'm like feeling like this kind of is supposed

2011
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 5: to be my friends. I helped these niggas.

2012
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: Theiga was a rock station.

2013
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 5: Wow, I turned into an urban station, and they asked

2014
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 5: niggas like me, can you come help us? Went over

2015
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 5: the community. So I'm like that shit mean something. And

2016
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 5: they played this record and put in a rotation where

2017
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 5: it said that's why the town got rid of short

2018
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 5: one line and yeah. And I'm like, I'm like a

2019
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 5: nigga like this. I'm like, niggas, you don't it's not

2020
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 5: it's zero disrespect. It's not gonna fucking happen. It's just

2021
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 5: we don't walk away from the ship. I'm not gonna

2022
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 5: rap about you. So, nigga, something's gonna happen. So I

2023
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 5: called the radio station. I was like, yeah, I'm coming

2024
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 5: to the concert. They didn't want me on the show.

2025
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 5: Of course, they told me. You know, I moved in Atlanta.

2026
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 5: We were kind of like supporting the local artists. Shit

2027
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 5: you moved away. So I'm like, well, I just.

2028
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: Want to come see the show. They gave me four

2029
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: sticker passes. Yeah, nigga.

2030
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 5: We rode up there at about sixty niggas, four niggas in,

2031
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 5: one nigga out, four more niggas in, one nigga out.

2032
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: He came out with the three passes, three niggas. We

2033
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 5: still do that, yeah, make that's called the line hold.

2034
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 5: So before they realized what had happened, we sixty East

2035
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 5: Oakland niggas in the concert.

2036
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: No authorization.

2037
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 5: We just in there, nigga, and we've been we being

2038
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 5: real cool. We ain't got no problem. But it's sixty niggas,

2039
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 5: sixty grimy niggas, and I'm requesting shit. I'm like, nigga,

2040
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 5: I need for y'all to walk me out on the

2041
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 5: stage and tell the crowd. Me and Loony's gonna tell

2042
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 5: the crowd it ain't nothing, beloved, And we just just

2043
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 5: had to happen. And they was like, oh, we're gonna

2044
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 5: do this, this, this and that, and they wouldn't.

2045
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: Do it, and I'm like, loonies. The loonies was with it.

2046
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 2: They were the little homies. They got to your mouth.

2047
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 2: They walked up to us, and they was like, man,

2048
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: what we gotta do?

2049
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 5: Whatever?

2050
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 2: The concert people wouldn't wouldn't.

2051
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 5: Let it happen. I'm like, we got to kill this

2052
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 5: motherfucking ship. Ain't nobody telling about the Loonies is my

2053
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 5: enemies and were running away. We're gonna just walk out

2054
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 5: and just say it's just love. That's all I wanted

2055
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 5: to tell the people. And it was like, no, I

2056
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 5: wouldn't do it. So we had We said that, well,

2057
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 5: let me let us holler at the manager. The manager, nigga,

2058
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 5: my niggahs, my niggas, my homie, and we went in

2059
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 5: this back room we're supposed to be hollering at one

2060
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 5: of the concert promoters. We back there and then the

2061
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,560
Speaker 5: ship get out of hand. Niggas, niggas lumped up the

2062
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 5: Loonies manager.

2063
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: A little bit and we didn't know this is where

2064
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: it's going.

2065
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 5: So the nigga got lumped up and curled all up

2066
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 5: and ship and all this ship.

2067
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even really ask for me.

2068
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 5: It was just like a blue blue bloom, like, nigga,

2069
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 5: shut up, we heard about mister bullshit. So we walk out.

2070
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 5: Now we got the mob. The mob is not satisfied.

2071
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 5: They like kind of hungry. And then we walked through

2072
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 5: the crowd and we just like we're not doing nothing

2073
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 5: to nobody, but we're just not happy, and we kind

2074
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 5: of moving around, and it just we went and we

2075
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: went and took a little section. Then you know, like

2076
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 5: you make niggas like just take they shit, we took

2077
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 5: a little section. We're gonna watch the next act. Somebody

2078
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 5: come on the scene. And then everybody that was just

2079
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 5: the powers that be just didn't like what they saw.

2080
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 5: They just didn't like it that they just it was

2081
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 5: just nervousness, and they canceled the show. They canceled, like

2082
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 5: the last two acts they canceled. It must have been

2083
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 5: like the Isley Brothers in e forty forty was headlining

2084
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 5: twenty five thirty thousand. You had never met it was

2085
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 5: homiess Oh, we was homemie nigga. I got your number mind,

2086
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 5: that's my nigga. They canceled the show. Wow, forty had

2087
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 5: spent like maybe like you know, a lot of grip

2088
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 5: on some special show he was gonna do with the

2089
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,560
Speaker 5: big show of the summer, and they canceled it. And

2090
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 5: they went and told the nigga we canceled you because

2091
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 5: it's too short now, mind you.

2092
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 1: We wasn't.

2093
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 5: We wasn't fighting, We wasn't Mobby will and fucking with

2094
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 5: the people. We just we just kind of like did

2095
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 5: the little thing in the back back area and left

2096
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 5: watching the show. But they're nervous that they couldn't control

2097
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 5: the ship.

2098
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 1: So but you had had not met E forty prior

2099
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 1: to rap, I.

2100
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 5: Knew we forty before we was wrapped.

2101
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 2: I know why.

2102
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 5: We early days, the early days, it was just like,

2103
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 5: what's up, nigga, Like it wasn't back in the day,

2104
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 5: niggas didn't wrap together exactly.

2105
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: It's make a record with you.

2106
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: Wasn't.

2107
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 5: That wasn't even an idea, make your album, make my mouth.

2108
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 5: But we just what's up and we hang out whatever.

2109
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 5: We was tired a little bit with d shot shots

2110
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 5: his little brother. That's my nigga, forty forty my nigga. Nope,

2111
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 5: the shots forty the click they was in the click. Okay,

2112
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 5: So Monday morning comes the radio station. The show was

2113
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 5: probably like Saturday and Sunday. Monday morning comes the radio

2114
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 5: station does a fake caller pretending to be too short,

2115
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 5: no way, and the nigga calls up. It's like, Nigga, yeah, nigga.

2116
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 5: Niggas didn't want to let me on stage. Nigga, I

2117
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 5: don't give a fuck if it was forty eight one

2118
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 5: thousand niggas short, don't get him stay no way. The

2119
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 5: niggas calling talked to shit on the morning show start

2120
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 5: that this sway was probably going by then okay, cool,

2121
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 5: and they doing this joke. But at the same time,

2122
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 5: it's a bitch down there that's the program director or something.

2123
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 5: This bitch is sending out facts and emails saying too short,

2124
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 5: it's violent band, the nigga from raping, don't ever play

2125
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 5: his music, all kinds of shit.

2126
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 2: So I'm like trying a black bolly.

2127
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 5: So I'm like, I'm taking this shit firstal then then

2128
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 5: the fucking phone rings. I don't even know shit was

2129
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 5: on the air.

2130
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know. E forty called me.

2131
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 5: He was like, Nigga, was you on the radio this morning?

2132
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, nah, nigga. He's like, Nigga, you didn't do

2133
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 5: say such such. I'm like, no, man, So the niggas

2134
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 5: like we stand up.

2135
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: Niggas. Niggas said, so you're telling me you didn't call

2136
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: the radio siging.

2137
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 5: He said, I said, nigga, I don't know.

2138
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 2: He said, okay, and then he.

2139
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 5: Started spinning the game to E forty is a real game,

2140
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 5: dumb nigga. So he started spending these like the radio

2141
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 5: stations trying to play games with us, blah blah this that.

2142
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 5: He's like, man, these folks, you know, we started talking

2143
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 5: about how much money he spent on his set. They

2144
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 5: didn't get it to the showing, and they personally told

2145
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 5: him it's two short fault. He was like, man, we're

2146
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 5: not finna turn this in the that because we know

2147
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 5: who we are. Your niggas, mind niggas. We know we're

2148
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 5: not finna do that. We finished, he said, let's get

2149
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 5: in the studio and make some music. We made a

2150
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 5: song called rappers Ball, and it's like that was like

2151
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 5: a big record for that's the first record.

2152
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: Ever made, and big record for your city, big record.

2153
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 5: For the Bay. Yeah, it was huge. It went everywhere

2154
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 5: and basically the ship of a you know, corporate type structure,

2155
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 5: motherfuckers in an office room trying to play some real

2156
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 5: niggas against each other kind of made us tighter than

2157
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 5: we ever been. And we kind of we were we

2158
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 5: were cool as fuck. But after that we made record

2159
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 5: after record after record. We started talking on the phone

2160
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 5: every other day. We kind of like walking each other

2161
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 5: through each other's albums and ship. Niggas don't know. We

2162
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 5: was on jive and we never really dropped in the

2163
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:50,560
Speaker 5: same quarter, so we would be like both we'd be

2164
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 5: critiquing each other's albums while we're making them. I'm like, yeah,

2165
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 5: you finna hit them hard, niggah. Yeah, And then I'm

2166
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 5: listening to him going, oh shit, I got to get

2167
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 5: there go hard because this nigga about about to knock

2168
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 5: me off, you know. So we kind of being friends

2169
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 5: and competitors, we kind of held each other down on

2170
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 5: on keeping it keeping that ship hardcore.

2171
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Like wow, So before we get up out of here,

2172
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: was you in the session with Big.

2173
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 5: When you made the record when the remies in my system?

2174
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 5: Ain't no telling that I.

2175
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Was in the room, that he was in the room.

2176
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when his legs was hurting shit, he was

2177
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 5: sitting down rapping and ship hell yeah.

2178
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: And then how about with Jay did y'all sit up session?

2179
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 5: I did that session with Jay?

2180
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 2: It was all good.

2181
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 5: Just a week ago I did that ship, I did

2182
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 5: the other song up and I was on Uh, Real

2183
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 5: niggas do real things, all the words. I was on

2184
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 5: that show. He really wanted Scarface on that song. And

2185
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 5: and back then them niggas. It was that ship where

2186
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 5: the niggas used to love Tupac so much. It was

2187
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 5: like UGK and Nigga are niggas. They loved Tupac so

2188
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 5: much to like, Man, I ain't work with nobody from

2189
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 5: New York. I just it was just it was, let

2190
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 5: me stop you right there. We love short New York.

2191
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: He's trying to be.

2192
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Humble right now.

2193
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: He's humble. Look, I used to be telling niggas like this.

2194
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 4: Man.

2195
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 5: I talked to the niggas car Face all nigga real

2196
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 5: talk back in the day. I'm like, Nigga, go to

2197
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 5: New York. It's gonna take your career to a new level.

2198
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 5: Them niggas fuck with you, and we didn't. We didn't know.

2199
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 5: Somebody had to tell you. I say, passed it on.

2200
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know, Nigga. I'm on the elevator.

2201
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 5: And then Nigga bell hops saying, I ain't never heard

2202
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 5: of you, man, Why why you got on Jurey?

2203
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 4: Like?

2204
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Who was you?

2205
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 5: I said, Nigga I'm too short, and now I saw

2206
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 5: the million records. The bell hoped the bell, I mean

2207
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 5: the Hotel New York, like, you know you did, nigga, Wow, never,

2208
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 5: I never heard you could have sw the million records.

2209
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: This is the crazy shit is you know what side

2210
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: of you telling? Because we always felt like, you know,

2211
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: we showed y'all love.

2212
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 5: And I told the bell man, nigga, I do shows.

2213
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 5: The big daddy came that nigga said, now.

2214
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 3: I know you like.

2215
01:34:58,880 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: And you did do shows.

2216
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 5: Show is crazy. This monkey is my nigga. Man, that's

2217
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 5: my my homie. Like I was talking a lot of

2218
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 5: my fuckers.

2219
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 2: Ja Ja is my nigga.

2220
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 5: That's my nigga.

2221
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's crazy.

2222
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 2: Way back when he.

2223
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Was God bless him, God bless him. Your too. Show

2224
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: got the craziest stories.

2225
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 5: Man.

2226
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: We just made sup. Let's make some noise for to

2227
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 2: shot man coming out.

2228
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: Bringing it out.

2229
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: I was there, you were there.

2230
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 5: I told you I just turned fifty. Niggas.

2231
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I know some ship carr Us one totals, he turned

2232
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: fifty and he pulled on a a off peak card.

2233
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: You Bagels and Denny, you got a.

2234
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 2: Let me let me see what kind of car you got.

2235
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 5: Let me see what.

2236
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: We need. Sonny here where Sonny.

2237
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: At cannabis card? Goddamn, look at that.

2238
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: Look at that.

2239
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: That's make some noose for too short being a super smoke.

2240
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Yo.

2241
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 2: Shure.

2242
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 5: This is listen.

2243
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 2: I can't thank you so much.

2244
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Man, Listen, I can never repay you for this, because

2245
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if people understand what this is. There's

2246
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: people from the Bay Area, there's people from South Central,

2247
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 1: there's people from New York that all want to know

2248
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: your story. And right now, I mean in the hip

2249
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: hop way, but I say they know your story. But

2250
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: in the hip hop way, we're not journalists. We don't

2251
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: Google ship. We sit there just a conversation. I'm gonna

2252
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: be honest. I don't know the Google, but I do

2253
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: to get the porn sites.

2254
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: Just figured that out. Yeah, Hamster, that's it.

2255
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: That's it.

2256
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: But and and we sit here with hip hop legend.

2257
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: We had carras One sitting right there. This is correct,

2258
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: that right there was right there. And once some more

2259
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: drive records he was on driving the hotel.

2260
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: We got Q tip that's coming to the block, give

2261
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: records exactly. So I'm bringing it up. Rest in peace

2262
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: to five go and I can't thank you enough, my brother.

2263
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 2: I really appreciate this. I was so excited.

2264
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: My brother dj AFN told me, he said, yo, man,

2265
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, two shorts coming in. I

2266
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: don't know if you felt it when he was on

2267
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: the phone, but I kept going like this, I heard it.

2268
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Where did that come from? Sure?

2269
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: Because every time I hear your name, I keep hopping

2270
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: my collar.

2271
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Is that cool?

2272
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2273
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's a pimp gesture. That's a PM gesture.

2274
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: So you like every time if we're not like if

2275
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm in like if I'm in like Tucson, Arizona, and

2276
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: they say you wanted too short ribs or the older

2277
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: pars used to wear.

2278
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 2: This, and I go like this, yeah you're good, I'm good.

2279
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 2: I'm good.

2280
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 5: Used to wear suits and ship man, they really used

2281
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 5: to pop their collars.

2282
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: They had collars you don't have. I didn't know where

2283
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: the popping collar came from.

2284
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 5: So you had these certain characters that they the whole

2285
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 5: time they talking to you, like a nigga is so clean.

2286
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 5: It just like you know, man, but I was doing this.

2287
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 5: I just like this, not just and they just pop

2288
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 5: it and it's just what kind of style you got,

2289
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 5: like they got order to picture and they talk like

2290
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 5: that the whole time. They talk to you when they're

2291
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 5: getting or after they tell up, while the niggas just

2292
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 5: walk up talking to your niggas, talking like my nigga.

2293
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: My nigga, you have to talk short. Get me right?

2294
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Am I doing the correct? When I doing it? You

2295
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: got the one hand pop together? Let me look at you,

2296
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: let me see you do it.

2297
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 5: You really got to be wearing a collar shirt though,

2298
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 5: you got to pop your collar.

2299
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 2: Tell you something else. I told you.

2300
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 5: I come from a different closet and things with you.

2301
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 5: I come from the finesse niggas.

2302
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 4: Don't.

2303
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 5: You don't necessarily have to do a lot of exterior.

2304
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 5: You're sitting there quietly, you hold a bitch what to do,

2305
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 5: and you just sitting there. You don't.

2306
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to brag on it. You feel me?

2307
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I am married those kind of cats. I

2308
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 5: took on that style of just not but do they

2309
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 5: pop their caller? You kind of don't. You don't do

2310
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 5: the loud. You don't rhyme, you don't rhyme, you don't

2311
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 5: dress too loud. You just kind of like you run

2312
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 5: that game, and you so.

2313
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: Sure if I could be a temporary pimp for like

2314
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: one day, could you coach me?

2315
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 2: I've been telling you all day. I gave you Anthony.

2316
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: You know I'll keep trying to changing out.

2317
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 5: Man.

2318
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 2: When the bitch chose me, I didn't know what to do.

2319
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 3: After that, I was like, oh, ship, but does the

2320
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: chick ever pimped the dudes that happens.

2321
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 5: You will never become a boss pimp unless a bitch

2322
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 5: turns you out first. You could think anything you.

2323
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 3: Want, but she got confused.

2324
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 2: I let's go like this.

2325
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 5: You never pimped the whole before, and you're gonna and

2326
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 5: you're gonna turn the bitch out for the first time.

2327
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 5: So she's just getting turned down. You just getting turned out, y'all.

2328
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 5: What the y'all gonna do together? Who never hold the pimp?

2329
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 5: Who never pimped? Somebody got to give you that game.

2330
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 5: You got to go get your feet with the best time.

2331
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: Let's make some noise in school. That is real that

2332
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 2: the best time you ever gonna get.

2333
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 5: This is the first.

2334
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 2: You might get a little junior house.

2335
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 5: She's like, I do it for you. She might be

2336
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 5: around junior around, but at the first so you're gonna

2337
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 5: knock another You're the new young pimp. You're the new

2338
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 5: young pemp. Youre gonna knock another another niggas bitch, you've

2339
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 5: been getting it.

2340
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: She coming over.

2341
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 5: You're like this, bitch I've been having. Ain't never hold

2342
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 5: like this. You got a super hole down, and you're like,

2343
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 5: oh ship when once you got a super hole and

2344
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 5: you adapt, you can't go read some of them books.

2345
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: Man, You.

2346
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 5: And you sit there and you you ain't never let

2347
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 5: her know that you can't hang with her, but you're

2348
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 5: pimping your way into it. The next hole you get,

2349
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 5: you're gonna be harder and harder and harder. Like you know,

2350
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 5: you learned some ship from that superhow you learn. That's

2351
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 5: why females teaching the dude. You had the junior hole

2352
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 5: and he was like, she bring me a little something.

2353
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 5: Now you got a super how you like every whole

2354
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 5: after that, you're like, do you fucking know what? Who

2355
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 5: it is?

2356
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: That's why he gave me a famous player card.

2357
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to give it back.

2358
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I said, you guys are complicated. This is very complicated.

2359
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Your lifestyle is very hard style.

2360
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 5: But the famous player card is not a famous pimp.

2361
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 3: Card.

2362
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 5: It's just for the players, man, because they all know

2363
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 5: it's differences player. They all know I don't really be

2364
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 5: off there trying to pimp holes and ship.

2365
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I never same. She should just from older,

2366
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 2: same way. Let's make it hot five for you, pimp

2367
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 2: polder Stell.

2368
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 5: Come on, every.

2369
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 2: This is what happens when you're too short.

2370
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm at the club in Las Vegas, hanging

2371
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 5: with my folks at the table. The bitch walks up

2372
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 5: to me and hands me like seventeen eighteen hundred and said,

2373
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 5: you're the reason why I'm homeing and walked away. She

2374
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 5: can't tell me her motherfucking name. I didn't even see

2375
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 5: what she gave me to she was out of sight.

2376
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 5: I looked.

2377
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, bitch, just walk had to be this,

2378
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: and then what did you do to seventeen hundred?

2379
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 2: Le's keep it d We bought that.

2380
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 5: We just we spending.

2381
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 1: We gave, we came back, We gave it back to

2382
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: keep it together, keep it together, back to you.

2383
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 2: She never introduced her name.

2384
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you what her face, so I can

2385
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 5: never tell you.

2386
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

2387
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2388
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: Listen, let me tell you we got the legend too

2389
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 1: short in hair. We're gonna lie paid it back to

2390
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: the game. Not trying to pimp until the pip came

2391
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: to me, wants to peric to me, I turn what

2392
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to do with the.

2393
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Niggas? Like, you give me your bit, don't do ju?

2394
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 6: I said, not anybody anybody know enough not to know

2395
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 6: to give them my bitch. Anybody that's listening, I gave

2396
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 6: a bitch to like cars. I gave a bitch to

2397
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 6: like like to see or something I throw.

2398
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, anybody that's listening, just remember this. Don't don't

2399
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 5: listen to ship about some pimp rules and ship and

2400
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 5: yeah and think you're gonna wake up trying to be

2401
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 5: a pimp. It's not something that you do. It's not

2402
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 5: something that you adapt to lifestyle. You know, just like

2403
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 5: anything you do, you become an expert.

2404
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 2: You know it's in you.

2405
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 5: It's in you.

2406
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah right now.

2407
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 2: I love the art of it, but.

2408
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 5: It's not in me. I don't have powers. I don't

2409
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 5: passion that you see me for for hip hop and

2410
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 5: music in the last show, and I don't have that

2411
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 5: passion for pimping.

2412
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: But you have the passion more for hip hop than

2413
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: I love the art of the pimp game.

2414
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful thing. If you you know what is

2415
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 5: the best profession after pimping, if you've been a pimp.

2416
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 5: Hell no, what I'm saying, thank you. That's what most

2417
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 5: pimps do. They started preaching.

2418
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, preaching that. Yeah, you got listen. The level of

2419
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: hustling is being is owning the church. That's the last level.

2420
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 5: I'm not laughing I'm not laughing at Christianity. I'm laughing

2421
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 5: at preacher.

2422
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: Listen.

2423
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: The real hustler, last hustle is being a preacher. I'm

2424
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,440
Speaker 1: just telling you that the preacher's pimping his congregation.

2425
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck. That's the last levels that well,

2426
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it to you another way.

2427
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 5: Now, let's say, throughout your life the way you learned

2428
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 5: how to be a pimp was that you figured, I

2429
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 5: have the gift the gap. You told that to yourself,

2430
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 5: The gift, the gabage your main weapon, and pimpings.

2431
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 2: Unless you're a gorilla pimp, you just was the punch

2432
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: of facing the big as you as.

2433
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 5: You stare in the ugly face of pimping, you see

2434
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 5: a fucking hole die on the job or some ship

2435
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 5: murdered or the junkie hole overdose. Is just the bitch

2436
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 5: life get fucked off and she ended up in prison.

2437
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 5: You never see it again, like, you know, just the

2438
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 5: ugly side of this, the ship that the ship that

2439
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 5: fucks you up in the head. You've seen how you

2440
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 5: took this little innocent girl who was a waitress. You

2441
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 5: sit and you see what she ended up being, and

2442
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 5: you like, damn, how am I in the eyes of

2443
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 5: God if I did this to her? And you start

2444
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:31,879
Speaker 5: feeling like a fucking monster, like it ain't for everybody

2445
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 5: in the long run. So what do you do? You

2446
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 5: you fucking step to the light and you go to

2447
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 5: the church and you start really realizing that damn, I

2448
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 5: been walking the wrong path. And then you end up

2449
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 5: being a fucking preacher later. But the main thing is

2450
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 5: why are you a good preacher? Because from day one

2451
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 5: you had to give the gap. You have to get swag.

2452
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 5: It ain't like if a pimp turned preacher. He's not

2453
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 5: he's not being wicked or he's not. He might just

2454
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 5: really have went that path where he looked at that

2455
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 5: ugly ship and he saw it and he went the

2456
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 5: other way. So men, some of them might be wicked. Yeah,

2457
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 5: it might be, but I'm just saying that the money

2458
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 5: I don't want to be just saying some ship where

2459
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 5: real ship, though that ship gets ugly. I know a

2460
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 5: church boy right now that pimped his ass off, and

2461
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 5: the only reason why he's a church boy because it's

2462
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 5: because of what he saw him pimping fucked him up.

2463
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 2: He's make some noise for the ship that sucked him up.

2464
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 4: This is.

2465
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: Yo, yo, follow disclaimer on this ship always wants to disclaim.

2466
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

2467
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: If you listen to two shorts, you get pimp tomorrow.

2468
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 2: List listen.

2469
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 3: I fucked up with the bit like, listen, here's a

2470
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 3: horrible pimp list.

2471
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 2: Like I went.

2472
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta choose to lose the big ship.

2473
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: I chose as soon as he chose me. I was like,

2474
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 1: oh ship, what did I do for?

2475
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 4: Man?

2476
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 1: What did I do?

2477
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 4: Man?

2478
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: And I was fucked up?

2479
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 1: Pimp juju kN uh bacher don wong was They was

2480
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 1: all trying to knock my bach. They was like I

2481
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: was holding it down because I was like, they can'tkno

2482
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: my bach because I see I seen the documentaries, so

2483
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not gonna knock my bitch. As

2484
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: soon as I left, I just left alone and that

2485
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: was it, so I knew I can. I can.

2486
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 5: There's two things you gotta do to establish You have

2487
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 5: to you have to get a choosing fee, and you

2488
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 5: have to at least.

2489
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 2: Send me away loosing fee.

2490
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: What is that?

2491
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: That's when she pays you to be with you.

2492
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me as soon as she

2493
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: chose me, I should have bitch a lot of paying

2494
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: off a lot of him.

2495
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 5: Set the bar kind of kind of steep if you

2496
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 5: ask me, I don't know. They like, you know, it's

2497
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 5: like five ten racks. I heard five racks I.

2498
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Could have got.

2499
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 7: I could have got if you could have gotten signed

2500
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 7: the short start your phone, man, want to change numbers.

2501
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 7: I was playing the wrong game for a long time.

2502
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 2: You're sure.

2503
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being a great sport and

2504
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: going out here having us man a little.

2505
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it look like I had care of.

2506
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Someone right there. It looks like you're drinking at my tie.

2507
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 2: It's it looks like, yo, shut Thank you so much,

2508
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: my brother. Easy on the pimping, yas you're gonna get

2509
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 2: you responsibly.

2510
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: Like I want to.

2511
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pimp.

2512
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pimp like your dogs first before you go

2513
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,839
Speaker 1: up gonna I'm gonna pimp.

2514
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 2: Like in my mind.

2515
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 1: We'll have Short exact run run me through it in

2516
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: my mind and then maybe no, I'm never gonna try.

2517
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,719
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna try. But at least at least Short

2518
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 2: taught me. Yeah you short man, I really appreciate it. Man.

2519
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: Every time a person say how did that happen? Before

2520
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 2: we get out of it, is that word I.

2521
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 5: Showed you how to wrap. Partner Freddie b. So we

2522
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 5: try to do everything that the streets do. In the

2523
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 5: streets was doing a lot of drugs. So we used

2524
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 5: to do these little skits before the songs. Is just

2525
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,759
Speaker 5: like either acting like gangsters or just slick talking niggas.

2526
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 5: And one of the skids we used to do is

2527
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 5: was about this, uh, this chick who.

2528
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: She was a bead.

2529
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 5: So so we pretended like like we're smoking crack cocaine.

2530
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 5: But wait, but this was not crack, but wore crack

2531
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 5: cocaine at one This was not cracked.

2532
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 2: We sprinkled a little bit in the joints, but were

2533
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 2: not You did hit that he did, Yeah, this tastes good.

2534
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: It was.

2535
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 5: It was crazy. Don't let it take you down. But

2536
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 5: look at that stuff so smoking dirty back then, it

2537
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 5: wasn't when we was wrapping the early eighties, it wasn't crack.

2538
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 5: It was called freebasing, and it was only her. It

2539
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 5: was only what rich fly fly people did. It was

2540
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 5: if he was showing off rich motherfucker you free base.

2541
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 5: That was the ship that burned rich prize and that

2542
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,560
Speaker 5: that was that was in the pipe, or that was

2543
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 5: that was It was the same thing.

2544
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: It was the same thing as the crackhead. It was

2545
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 2: smoking the pipe.

2546
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 5: But when it first came out, it came out as

2547
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 5: an elegant thing that only rich people did were about

2548
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 5: to go smoke.

2549
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: It was like, this is the upgrade from cocaine. Rich people.

2550
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 5: Freebasing was something that people openly saying, we're freebasing, but

2551
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 5: crack is uping.

2552
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: When you turn to crack head.

2553
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 5: That was the same fucking ship, but it just had

2554
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 5: a different hood, different time and era.

2555
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,520
Speaker 2: So we used to mimic freebasing.

2556
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 5: So we would sit there and be like, you know

2557
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 5: the bitches like hit I hit this baby, like you know,

2558
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 5: the tap is about to come on the music coming on.

2559
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 2: We're doing the skip for it.

2560
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 5: Come on like this hit and hitt and say like

2561
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 5: mother fucking choking ship and then uh, like bitch, you

2562
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 5: hitting you smoking too much? And then uh and then

2563
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 5: my man like somebody being there doing the girl voice

2564
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 5: or whatever, and then uh and then it should be

2565
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 5: like the bitch like like bitch like that's where it got.

2566
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: We did that skit let's noise for crack making making

2567
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: up to be.

2568
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:42,719
Speaker 2: Crack cocaine, get.

2569
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 5: Something, get so many times that the bitches kept getting

2570
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 5: longer and longer and longer until it was just.

2571
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Like bitch and is that your favorite word? It really

2572
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 2: is my favorite.

2573
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 5: But look at this. They got a rude awakening though,

2574
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 5: because I went and looked at some old Dola Mite movie.

2575
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 6: This saying.

2576
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 5: Like that.

2577
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: But you're doing none at a hip hop. You are

2578
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the you are the king, You're the first pimper hip hop.

2579
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: You are the first person that made us proud to

2580
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 1: be who you are, where you want to be. We

2581
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: want to salute you, too short. Let's still say that

2582
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 1: we love you. We want to say that we want

2583
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:23,520
Speaker 1: to keep continuing.

2584
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 2: And you look the same. You ain't aging. We are

2585
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: saluting you, my brother. You're a great guy.

2586
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: We love you, Drink Champs, love you definitely, and we're

2587
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: gonna drink some Champagne. I've been drinking you hard, Lick.

2588
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 2: I know you're up here.

2589
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 5: You got me a little.

2590
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: Podcast.

2591
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it going here you are. I'm never alright.

2592
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 1: We got always almost almost into this night, like man,

2593
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: what UPO?

2594
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 2: Wo too short? Thank you for coming the drink Champs.

2595
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know all right, I'll just keep coughing.

2596
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: Thank you to stop coughing.

2597
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 5: Hit the way again.

2598
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 2: It's like your TV show, yes what happened on my

2599
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 2: TV show yesterday? I forgot oh yo.

2600
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 5: We had face faces like I'm in Miami, nigga, like

2601
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 5: we just got off the cruise. Me Louke, we was

2602
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 5: all on this cruise.

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