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Speaker 2: Is this an AI video?

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Speaker 1: It's not a video?

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Speaker 2: Oh ai picture?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Read that Shaq exposed for shooting shot at Sabrina Carpenter.

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Speaker 1: Bro hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Shack,

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Speaker 1: damn baby, I would keep your farts in a cologne

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Speaker 1: bottle and spray it on me every day, just jokes.

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Speaker 1: I'm Shack's what's your name? Baby? And Sabrina says, I

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Speaker 1: know who you are. You're way too famous to be

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Speaker 1: sending me message like that, Shack. I can't be horny

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Speaker 1: and want some of that snow bunny kidd for myself.

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Speaker 1: You're being rude for no reason. You can't handle a

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Speaker 1: big deals anyway. My meat would have you in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Can we find out? Is that me or is that cap?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I definitely do not believe you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it went viral, looktop.

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Speaker 2: Social media is a dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Game because the computer could do anything. They can make

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Speaker 3: like them old ladies.

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Speaker 1: The diesel got way more game than that.

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Speaker 3: The first line was crazy. That's how, that's how if

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Speaker 3: that's how you get here, coming through people d M,

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Speaker 3: It's like, yo, you're busting through the d M like that. Shock.

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Speaker 1: Damn baby, keep your colon.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Spread it.

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Speaker 3: That's the endlest line I've ever heard of my life.

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Speaker 1: Alright, last question, the greatest athlete and see ever.

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Speaker 3: My stats, my status. Now, I'm gonna give it to you,

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Speaker 3: big fella. You know since fool snickings, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think I don't think these know what fool snickings is.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was dead for that. You heard shocked

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Speaker 3: diesel fool snickers. Go look it up for you youngsters heard.

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Speaker 3: I want to know because you don't want to know.

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Speaker 3: Shock is talk about the fool snickings. That's all I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say. It get deeper, but I can't say this.

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Speaker 3: You can wrap my brother. I've heard you on numerous records.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: After you get used to the shock, he's a basketball player,

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Speaker 3: and then you start to listen, Oh shock got some

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Speaker 1: But you know what, people don't understand. I take this seriously.

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Speaker 1: You know. One let me in. I had to prove

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Speaker 1: myself right. But when I hear all that, oh he's

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Speaker 1: Lay twenty. I was listening to one of my old

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Speaker 1: records the other day, my uncle Jerome like, you spit

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Speaker 1: that boy, but you're having fun when you be in

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Speaker 3: Doctor and you be collected, you're collecting. I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: you've been around some real spittters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Peter Guns and all of them really get busy

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Speaker 3: like that. Jus Tariq, he was around. You was around

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Speaker 3: and when really wrapping from New York guys before any

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Speaker 3: of this, like you, you had to have some bars

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Speaker 3: and it rubs off on you. So if you have

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Speaker 3: any bit of a flow, which you obviously had, now

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Speaker 3: you're around some ill rappers, all of that iron sharpers,

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Speaker 1: Crazy. They never let me let up in the studio

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Speaker 1: food about two three year ours Eric Simmon and played

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Speaker 1: rap man from my hood. He's like, nah, nah that

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Speaker 1: do it again? Do it? So? Like I, like you said,

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Speaker 1: I've been a biggie.

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Speaker 1: It was different? So I sent him the beat. He

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Speaker 1: I don't like that, I go back. I don't like

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Speaker 1: out of respect. For his things. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: think I'm dumping, but he when I tell you that,

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Speaker 1: after that I takeship to about five minutes. Were in

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Speaker 1: the sea almost drowned him a little seeds on the sea.

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Speaker 1: I had to get the flop the water. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you think I'll ever get back to the way it

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Speaker 1: was for artists. I mean selling albums to get a

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Speaker 3: To say that, I wouldn't say that. I would say this.

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Speaker 3: I would say the artists need to negotiate their deals

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Speaker 3: No, I missed that. Now that the hunt were talking

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Speaker 3: about that just yesterday, the hunt of going to get

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Speaker 1: Okay, once you started to cut you out once you

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Speaker 1: their cut and he getting their cut. Now with these streams,

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Speaker 1: like like to me, when when I hear somebody's chick,

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Speaker 1: I streamed the million times, like, oh they went platinum,

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Speaker 3: This is a playforal platforms that people will get paid from.

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Speaker 3: And remember these kids get monthly money residuals, so I

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they explain to you everything. So

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Speaker 3: be able to come out before all of this crazy

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Speaker 3: nobody else. And do I miss the law of the

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Speaker 3: old school game, Yes, but it's not the same. Man.

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Speaker 3: While I'm in this game, I got to adapt and

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Speaker 3: and that's how we make our money. But the kids

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Speaker 3: they're missing anything. The only people that feel like it's

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Speaker 3: missing something is us because we've been there before and

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Speaker 3: we can make the similarities between or whatever, between the

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Speaker 3: so they could give two about it, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. We're the only ones. The older generation is

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Speaker 2: Noticed, speaking of your heads, we Fly High is obviously

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Speaker 2: one of your most well known songs. I'm curious to know.

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Speaker 2: Did any NBA players hit you up because they liked

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Speaker 3: Now here's the funny part of We Fly High. All

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Speaker 3: NBA players love the record. When I try to get

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Speaker 3: not encourage hip hop or does not do business with

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Speaker 3: And I was so hurt because I was like, yo, bro,

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Speaker 3: But I will shout to that, and I love the NBA,

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Speaker 3: but it shouts it NFL and shout out to straight

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Speaker 3: It's Monday Night football the biggest day on TV. That

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Speaker 3: like I wanted the Knicks to do. That was so

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Speaker 1: When you created did it just happened because you heard

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Speaker 3: That happened because my back was against the wall. I

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Speaker 3: take the Franchise bolls off of it, and one of

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Speaker 3: drop Down Get Your Eagle On with Puffy and Nelly

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Speaker 3: the label, like we could use this for the radio,

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Speaker 2: Have you ever felt like, you know, like in that

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Speaker 3: A hit, you would think, you know, sometimes it happened

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Speaker 3: like that. Balling wasn't the one that I knew it

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Speaker 3: I wanted to put out as as as my first record,

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Speaker 3: what was.

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Speaker 2: The one that you wanted to put out your first?

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Speaker 3: I can remember what was the first. I think it

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Speaker 3: and then it started connecting like you say, momentum, the

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Speaker 3: It was just going, I'm.

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Speaker 1: yes or noough will ever be a reunion? Is as

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Speaker 1: a fan, I would like to see that.

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Speaker 3: I'm always over for a reunion.

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Speaker 1: Yes or no. My brother.

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Speaker 3: Up to me, yes, but I'm just me. Yeah you did,

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Speaker 3: No matter what goes on, you did because my my

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Speaker 3: my thing is I know it's two sides that this

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Speaker 3: is my personal and it's something that we built, you

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Speaker 3: I get on stage with anybody, I might want to

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Speaker 3: fight you after stage, but I get on stage and

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Speaker 3: the people are gonna look like it and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: stage and as at the team, you know that, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Have any of those conversations happened there?

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Speaker 3: I don't think people want to converse with me right now.

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Speaker 3: But so it's always it's always a way to get

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Speaker 1: When it comes to certain music that we grew up on,

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Speaker 3: I'm a lover like you, like I love some of

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Speaker 3: I can say that, but I love some of the

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Speaker 3: that nostalgic feeling. In today's gay very few you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. But you know, we listened to We

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Speaker 3: listen to music way different than than the new kids.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the things that satisfy us. It's way different.

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Speaker 3: But then again, we had our time. And that's why

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Speaker 3: our time. It's no really critiquing the new music because

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Speaker 3: it's not new music, it's their music. We had our music.

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Speaker 1: You listen to beats, lyrics.

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Speaker 3: Me, I listened to lyrics more than I listen to beats.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be beats for me first.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's how I am. I mean, a good beat,

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Speaker 3: a great record is a great record. But I'm from

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Speaker 3: We don't want to hit, We don't listen. Don't do

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Speaker 3: that right, And then they all records that did sound

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Speaker 3: Mumble rap Like, I got no real preference. I like

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