1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Holl that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Edo State? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Is that? 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Whoo whoom and then and tie. Dan Rubertstein been about 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: forty eight hours. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, since the conclusion of the college football season. I 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: know we have the Army Navy game. We can talk 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: about that game on Thursday. I know it's not completely 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: in the books, but I think for all intents and 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: purposes here on the solid verbal, the people that listen 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: to the solid verbal, we know the playoff field, we 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: know who won conferences, we know where bowl matchups are 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: going to be, what they're looking like. We'll talk through 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of those and much much more. Also, time 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: of recording, the portal is opening, So really no rest 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: for the weary here, my friend. 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: How are you today? No, man, I'm good. I'm good. 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: It's still you know, drinking from a fire hose. That's 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: our favorite phrase for when things are happening all at once. 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: When we have playoff selection, bowl selection. Coach is moving 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: all around, and Barry odom is reportedly going to Purdue. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: You know, among a bunch of other happenings in the 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: silly season coaching carousel world, and you know portal stuff, 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of big names, a lot of 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: known names. When I say no, not no names, no no, 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: no kN own names, and will be fascinating to see 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: who ends up where, especially quarterback being as high profile 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: as it is. And I don't know, like, was this 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: like the last season of the bonus COVID year. I 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: don't do some math with me because I'm seeing like TJ. 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Finley entering for the fourth time Auburn, LSU, Texas State, 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Western Kentucky and now that he'll have a fifth destination 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: or a fifth place. Uh, I think it's the end. 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: I think I don't know. Maybe maybe we'll have another 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: year of it if my math is off. But man, 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: there's some of those guys. And then there are some 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: guys where you just you lose a coach, or you 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: tried to stick it out with the new coach and 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: it wasn't a fit, and or you know, somebody younger 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: came up and supplanted you. So there's there's a lot 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: of interesting conversation and movement happening in the portal. 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: A lot of interesting things going on. For sure, we 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: will do our best to kind of get you up 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: the speed with everything that you need to know. Coming 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: up later this week, we're gonna have our friend Bill 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: Connolly on the show to talk through I don't know, 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: just put sort of a ribbon a bow on the 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: season that was and things that jumped out to him, 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: things that he's looking for moving forward. In very short order, 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: we're going to have Bowl preview Numero Uno. We have 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: broken up all of the other Bowls into two big shows, 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: so there's going to be a Bowl Preview one and 56 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: a Bowl Preview two coming up. I guess around the 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: next week timetable somewhere in that neighborhood. 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: And we're also going to have. 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: Our playoff preview next Tuesday. So a lot brewing here 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: in the Verballer hood, not the least of which is 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: bull Bingo, Dan bull Bingo. Yes, I will talk about 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: Bulbingo a little bit later on in this episode, but 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: bul Bingo is going to be the successor to Winter Wonders, 64 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: which we have run the last couple of years. It's 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: been a confidence pool, but since the Bowl season has changed, 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: we took it upon ourselves to change the game and 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: give it the for baller hood access to something that 68 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: they have never ever played before. Just go on out 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: to verbowlers dot com and sign up for the free tier. 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: That is my one bit of advice. Go to the 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: free tier. 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm not going to spam you. You don't got to 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: pay for this, but all are welcome. You just got 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: to sign up as a part of the free tier 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: and then you'll get access to bowl Bingo when that 76 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: goes up a little bit later on this week. Oh, 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: if you've made it this far, hit fil Hit. 78 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Subscribes that you don't miss any of our episodes. 79 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Dan, let's get into news, dude. My voice is pretty 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: damn raspy from the weekend. 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: And you slept well, that's usually a good healing path. 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: But no, you're you're still getting back up to uh 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: to average. 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Here. 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: Last last year, the second the season ended, I got 86 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: really sick. 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: All right, ty. 88 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: We got a long, robust offseason. I know, some playoff postseason. 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep it together. 90 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sure that I'm hydrated, that I'm 91 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: drinking all the right stuff to try and you know, 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: keep me in good shape. But alas we have a 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 3: new Verballer Poll. It's the final Verballer Pole of the season. 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: I asked people you may recall on the Saturday night 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: live stream of the reaction stream, to go on out, 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: sign up and vote. The results are similar, albeit a 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: little bit different between Harverballers and what the committee came 98 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: down with. Oregon Georgia one two. No surprise there Notre 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: Dame by three points, three points over Texas three and four, 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: Penn State at five, Ohio State at six, Tennessee at seven, 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Boise State at eight, Arizona State all the way up 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: to nine. That's a bit of a difference. They were 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: twelve in the CFP pole, Indiana down to ten, SMU 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: at eleven, Clemson at twelve. Notably Clemson at twelve over Alabama. 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: My hunches, when people voted, they were not just voting 106 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: in terms of who the best twelve are, but who 107 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: they thought should get into. 108 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Right, the twelve playoff teams. 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the playoff field. So you could take a 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: look at this, Dan, We got the twelve teams in 111 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: the Verballer Pole. SMU included in there, ranked above Clemson 112 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: despite the fact that Clemson had beat him in the 113 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: ACC game. That sort of mimics what we saw based 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: on the playoff committee suggestions, So we'll put one more 115 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: of these out after everything is said and done. Again, 116 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: stay tuned to that free tier out at forballers dot com. 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: We will make sure that the final poll of the 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: season at some point in January, is open to all 119 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: who are interested. But I don't know if I have 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: any thoughts on this. I guess where I wanted to 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: start this podcast today, is any lingering thoughts you have now, 122 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: because we do have ball matchups that we can talk 123 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: through here a little bit, just to give people a 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 3: primer for what's to come. We obviously have been thinking through, 125 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: just on like a podcast level, what the hell are 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: schedules going to be now that they're playing these games 127 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: at odd times. The first round is over the weekend, 128 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: the next round is New Year's even New Year's Day. 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: After that, I think we've got a Tuesday Wednesday game, 130 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: and then the following the championship game is played on 131 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: a Monday night. So very few of these abide by 132 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: like the normal parameters of a college football schedule. So 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: we've been thinking about that and what it all means 134 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: and how we're going to cover things moving forward, but 135 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: lingering thoughts, Lingering thoughts from the weekend, now that we 136 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: know matchups. 137 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Including the playoff, including the Bulls, including what we already 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: saw in terms of championship games, anything. 139 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, or just in life. I mean, we should probably 140 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: stick to college football. Okay, the College Football Show, but. 141 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: No, not a terribly long list of lingering thoughts. You know, 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: you have the expected Alabama and SEC talking points that 143 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: were sort of tedious and grasping at Straw's ish a 144 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: little bit too much. And that's fine. I would do 145 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the same thing if I were an Alabama fan, Like 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: you have to go to bat for your team, you 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: have to go to bat for your your viewpoint, from 148 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: your vantage point, whatever, and. 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fine. It's all expected. 150 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: And you know, the talking points about SMU, the talking 151 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: points that I think both Greg Byrne and Nick Saban 152 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: national ESPN shared, all analysts shared VA Google docs. Yeah, 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: there was a lot of that of like why even 154 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: schedule like strong non conference games? And I saw Bill 155 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: Connelly he was like, well, Alabama's non conference the final 156 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: sp plus ratings were like sixty seventh, seventieth and seventy seventh. 157 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: That's right, And an FCS team for Alabama, they lost 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: SEC games, and I saw there was a stat that, 159 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: like Alabama had two losses to teams outside of the 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: SP plus top thirty in Oklahoma and Vanderbilt, and the 161 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: seven at large schools that did get playoff bids combined 162 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: for two between them. So you know, there's some context 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: lost in these things. I understand where where everybody's coming from, 164 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: and again I would do the same exact thing if 165 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: Oregon were left out in a similar manner. But no, 166 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: beyond that, I think I'm excited for what these new 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: matchups have in store. Disappointed that my team in its 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: first matchup has to play the winner between Ohio's dateon Tennessee. 169 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't. 170 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Know, if you're number one, they should be scared of 171 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: you more than you should be scared of them, right. 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: One would think one would think, yeah, one would think 173 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: I will say this kind of as an aside. I 174 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: think the the reaction to the playoff field that I 175 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: appreciated the most came from the people who were clearly 176 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: trying to find their own angle on it. 177 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Did you see the Jim Nagy NFL tweets? Did you 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: see that. 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh that like it like should be an all SEC 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: playoff because they have the most potential first through third 181 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: round picks or something. 182 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the metric by which Jim was using was NFL talent. 183 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: If I were an SEC coach and ad I two 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: would be upset knowing how much NFL talent is on 185 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: the roster, to which I tweeted out and I said, Hey, 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: if they just want to crown a champion in July, 187 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: it's saves a lot of work, Dan, it would save 188 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: a lot of work. 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: We don't got to do any of this. 190 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know how they review restaurants, right, They take 191 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: a look at the shopping lists and then they say, well, 192 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: this clearly must be the best restaurant. They ordered the 193 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: most high quality lobster, so they must do the best 194 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: job with it, right, That's how they review restaurants. 195 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, am I mistaken? 196 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: So cool that hypothetically LSU was so much more talented 197 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: than other teams, and in practice they lost to an 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: extraordinarily average Big Ten team. I love to open the season. 199 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: I love the tweets that are always like sort of 200 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: dancing around the point. 201 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Include a little bit. 202 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: Of a humble brag just to assert authority, sure, and 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: are playing into the trending news topics of the moment, 204 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: if only to go viral. Those are my favorites. So 205 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: that was my tweet of the weekend on that front. 206 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: The thing that I would add here, please, I wasn't 207 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: sure if you were going to bring it up, but 208 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: lingering thoughts with regard to the playoff. The news on 209 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: Carson Beck is not particularly great. 210 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, real bum to see it. 211 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: Carson Beck has injured his UCL. If you're a baseball fan, 212 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: you're used to people pictures, in particular having UCL injuries. 213 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: It is never good for you. It is the ligament 214 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: on the inside part of the elbow. I'm pointing to 215 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: it now in the video. Maybe you can see it. 216 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: I have hurt that ligament before in the past. It 217 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: renders your arm into a noodle. 218 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: It sucks. It is not fun. Bear in mind, I am. 219 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: Not a high caliber quarterback nor a pitcher. I work 220 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: at a keyboard now, but back in the day when 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: I was playing baseball. You try to throw after you 222 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: injure that ligament, your arm is dead. 223 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Yes. So the fact that he came in and. 224 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 3: Had that, as I've said, dramatic game winning handoff is 225 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: a testament to I think his toughness because it doesn't 226 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: feel good. I've done that, but it certainly now calls 227 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: into question where things stand in this playoff. I don't 228 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: think it sounds so i'mis saying it sounds like he's 229 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: going to get a second opinion on it. Clearly he's 230 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: got an NFL future, whether as part of this draft class. 231 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: Presumab three years or something. Yeah. 232 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Carson Beck has had his moments this season, 233 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: but Carson Beck is absolutely still a high level prospect. 234 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: So the fact that this comes now is really really 235 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: upsetting for you a Georgia fan, I would say conversely, 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: as a Notre Dame fan, I'm looking at this news 237 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: and though I don't want anybody to get hurt, I'm saying, okay, well, 238 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: Gunner stocked in. 239 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: That changes the calculus a little bit. 240 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: That makes you feel, I guess a little bit better 241 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: if you're Notre Dame, even if you're Indiana. I don't 242 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: want to pay in Indiana in this game. Coming out 243 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: of that quadrant of the bracket. It definitely raises a 244 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: bunch of questions. Now we were waiting for more news 245 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: on this. It seems as if some trickled out here. 246 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: We're recording this on Monday. We'll wait to see what 247 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: that second opinion looks like. We'll wait to see what 248 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: the doctors have to say. But for sure, if they're 249 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: at all concerned about his future, if he's concerned about 250 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: his future in the NFL, logic would see to point 251 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: to the fact that we're not going to see Carson 252 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: Beck for a while. 253 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it seems like. 254 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: And I know some Georgia fans have sort of pointed 255 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: out that, like, oh, we'll be fine Gunner Stockton, don't 256 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: sleep on Gunner Stockton. He might be okay, he might 257 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: be pretty good. You never want your backup quarterback to 258 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: be thrust into this kind of position after sitting all 259 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: season long. As much as Carson back at times has 260 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: struggled to live up to expectations that I think we 261 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: all had of him coming into the season in terms 262 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: of interceptions, in terms of not seeing pass rushes and 263 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: just making throws that were unfortunate, that just Gunner Stockton 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: might be okay, but you don't want him in this 265 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: position at this moment. And it's certainly something that doesn't 266 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: mean George is automatically going to lose early, but no, 267 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: George is not at full strength with Gunner Stockton. 268 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: The thought that has been bouncing around in my mind 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: since I got this news. We saw Carson Beck in 270 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: that game, and he didn't play in the second half. 271 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: He did come in later, so the ice pack, it 272 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: was very visible that something was wrong. This is not 273 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: to say it was a dramatic injury the way we 274 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: saw a year ago with Jordan Travis. And I know 275 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: this is perhaps a weird hypothetical, but I was comparing 276 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: the two in my head. In both instances, Georgia and 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Florida State. These are teams that won their conferences. But 278 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: the Jordan Travis injury was dramatic and I think apparent 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: to everybody watching that it was very bad and it 280 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: was going to stay that way regardless of whether Florida 281 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: State was in the playoff or not. Right, I don't 282 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: think there's much debate that the committee held that against 283 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Florida State and kept them out of the playoff as 284 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: a result of it. But I just wonder if there 285 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: isn't some bit of he got hurt, nobody knew how 286 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: badly he was hurt. They're going to be rewarded with 287 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: the number two overall seed, deal with the ramifications later, 288 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: Like if that injury had been more apparent and worse 289 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: right out of the shoot, if the committee would have 290 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: treated them in the same capacity they treated Florida State. 291 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: I think it was pretty clear to everybody involved that 292 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: they were just like, immediately yep, not coming back for 293 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: the second half. 294 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: That if he were beat up, if. 295 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: It were sore, if it were something this is the 296 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. I'm sure that if he were given 297 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: the choice, he absolutely would have chosen to come back 298 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: if physically possible. Yeah, And so I think the committee 299 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: knew well enough that it was going to be a 300 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: pretty serious injury, and they they weren't and they weren't 301 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: going to do this two years in a row. They 302 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: just weren't after what happened with Florida State last year. 303 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: So no, I don't know if if it had been 304 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: so obvious and so violently ghastly or something like that, 305 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: that they would have knocked Georgia down. 306 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, Georgia was getting in regardless because they 307 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: won the conference, so that's it's not exactly getting to apples, and. 308 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: They were going to get the buy that league couldn't 309 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: drop Georgia seven spots or something out of in Texas. 310 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I just I don't know straight thought. 311 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: The other thing I would add, and maybe this is 312 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: a natural segue over into Bowl season and some of 313 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: the other matchups. You and I talked offline a little 314 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: bit as we were trying to figure out what are 315 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: schedule is going to be like this postseason now, because 316 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: they've changed the schedule so much and the crop of 317 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: other Bowl games is not exactly inspiring. Sure, I do 318 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: wonder if one of the knock on consequences of this 319 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: twelve team playoff is with so many of the better 320 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: teams playing against one another, that means that there is 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: less interest in Bowl season than before. I mean, there 322 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: were already forty some odd games, So you pick and 323 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: choose the ones that I think you're interested in. But 324 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm looking at these matchups, man, and I'm like, ooh, 325 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: there's five games that I think are really interesting to me. 326 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: There are a bunch of other ones that don't exactly 327 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: make me want to set a reminder. 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: So here's the other thing too, It's you don't even 329 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: know what these games are going to be like. Even 330 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: a game that you're gonna, like hypothetically enjoy, like Miami's 331 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: Bowl game, like kim Or, it's not playing in the 332 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: Pop Tarts Bowl likely. 333 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: And the Pop Tarts Bowl, by the way, looks like, maybe, 334 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: at least on its face, one of the best matchup 335 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: for a bowl season. So it's like, if that's gonna 336 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: be the case between two kind of fringe playoff teams 337 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 3: from this past year with a bunch of guys sitting out, 338 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what the Iowa state side is gonna 339 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: look like, but you're right on Miami. That to me 340 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: is a little bit disappointing, and I don't think there's 341 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: really any way around it. 342 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 2: It's look that you can look up and down like 343 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: cal un LV. It's no longer the Jimmy Kimmel l 344 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: A Bowl. It's the art of sport La Bowl, art 345 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: of what I'm seeing here. Who's Col's offensive coordinator? Who's 346 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: gonna play quarterback for cal? I mean could be Fernando Mendos. 347 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Like the portal opened as we 348 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: were speaking, Like Tulane Florida are playing in the gasparillable, 349 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: Dari Mensa is in the portal darry Mens is not 350 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: going to play for Tulane. Is DJ Lagway gonna sit 351 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: out just to further rest his hamstring or something like that. 352 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like you don't want to risk anything 353 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: for the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl. It's in Tampa. 354 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: It's local ish to the state of Florida. Like you 355 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: go through here and they're just like the list of 356 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: games with you know, Mikey Keanes gone from Fresno State. 357 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: They're playing an IU. Okay, I'll watch that game. That's 358 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: the it's the famous Idaho Potato Bowl, I believe is 359 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: what we have down here. 360 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I'll watch. 361 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: I always love seeing the possibility of snow on blue turf. 362 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: But what are you supposed to take from it? That's 363 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: the interesting thing to me is like we can find 364 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: very interesting reasons to watch these games. 365 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: That's not difficult. Now. 366 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: The difficult thing is getting juiced up on the announcement 367 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: to be like, ooh, that's gonna be fun, Ooh, look 368 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: at this Holiday Bowl, look at this Vegas Bowl. Like 369 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: Miller Moss has gone. Wasn't the starter at the end 370 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: of the year, Connor Weigman Gonne wasn't the starter at 371 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: the end of the year. But who else is going 372 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: to join those players at those schools? So with texts 373 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: A and M, it's a first year coach finishing up 374 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: his inaugural season and a lot of players gave him 375 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: a shot, and now they're going to say, like, well 376 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: wasn't a fit. I'm gonna head into the portal. What 377 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: is Texas A and M's lineup going to look like? 378 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Who's going to join Miller Moss from USC on the 379 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball for USC or formerly USC 380 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: players And down the line, it's yeah, Iowa State, Miami 381 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: and the Pop Darts Bowl, Miami disappointed going into that game. Disappointed, 382 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: Iowa State going into that game disappointed was on the precipice, 383 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, who's going to be there, who's going 384 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: to poach coaches, who's going to poach players? And so, 385 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels like we are heading towards 386 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: something obvious, and that is and the obvious thing is 387 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: a restructuring of what the postseason is. If people stuck 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: watching the if and that's an if because people always 389 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: watch mediocre football rather than watch like good basketball for 390 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: whatever reason. Uh, because I mean, they love football, so 391 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: don't I don't know what that restructuring is. I don't 392 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: know if it's a consolidation. I don't know if it's 393 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: a schedule change. But I think when you look at 394 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: this sport, I think the last thing to be considered 395 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: is going to be like the sanctity of the Music 396 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: City Bowl, right, And so I don't know if that 397 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: means fewer bowls. I don't know if these means this 398 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: means bowls bundled in a playoff type system that isn't 399 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: exactly the playoff that creates some sort of heightened prizing 400 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: for the winner or championship teams or something like that 401 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: that like Alabama was a hair away from the playoff 402 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: and they're taking on a seven and five Michigan team 403 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: in the Reliaquest Bowl. Yeah, it's not a consolation for 404 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: really either one of these teams and fan bases. 405 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 406 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: I think eventually we're going to reach the point where, 407 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: I mean, the Citrus Bowl is kind of interesting to me. 408 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: I think it will be interesting no matter what. South Carolina, Illinois. Yeah, 409 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: it's a few yeah, but yeah, it's going to be 410 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: an annually tougher and tougher sell to get people to travel, 411 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: pay for tickets, pay for hotels and rental cars, and 412 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: tune in. Frankly, like the fans of the teams will 413 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: because football is a scarce resource. But are the casual 414 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: fans going to tune into the really request Bowl, given 415 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: who might not even be anywhere near that stadium. 416 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. 417 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, that was one of the challenges 418 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 3: with putting together a game this postseason. 419 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Not to promote the game any further, but right. 420 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: One of the things some of the feedback that I 421 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: got with regard to the confidence pool is like, hey, 422 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: it's a cool concept. Confidence pools been around since the 423 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: beginning of time. That said, it's increasingly more difficult to 424 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: be confident in anything. 425 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how you bet on half of these. 426 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: Games with the point spread in this day and age, 427 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: because of opt outs, because of sheer motivations to be 428 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: there or not be there, because of the transfer portal 429 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: side of it. I mean, there's just so many more 430 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: things that you need to consider. That's part of the 431 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: reason why I wanted to move away from it, because 432 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 3: bull season in and of itself has gotten way more 433 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: complicated with all these external factors we're trying to keep 434 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: the game pretty simple that everybody can enjoy it, and 435 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the problem. 436 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Now, you're right. 437 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: I mean, we could come to a point at some 438 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: point in the future here where you know, we were 439 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: joking around about kind of a tournament of Bowls of Sports, 440 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: but the Bulls kind of reorganize themselves into pods and 441 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: find a way to conduct their own tournament separate from 442 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: the college football playoffs. Just because I don't know, this 443 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: isn't really doing it for me. Now, we will find 444 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: ways to be interested in these games. I've found a 445 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 3: number of them already that I think are interesting just 446 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: on their face. Given where these teams have been this season, 447 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: the question is who will be playing, The question is 448 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: who will be transferring? The question like, we've got a 449 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: number of those situations. I pulled out the Birmingham Bowl 450 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: right away between Georgia Tech and Vandy, two teams that 451 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: provided a ton of storylines this season. I mean, there's 452 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: no doubt about that. I'm interested in that game. And 453 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: then of course I read that Eric Singleton, top wide 454 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: receiver for Georgia Tech, is going to be entering the 455 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: transfer portal, so we're going to have stories like this 456 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: creep out over the next couple of days, and not 457 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 3: only are we going to have to react to that, 458 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: but we're going to have to figure out what does 459 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: that mean come bowl season. There are a couple though, 460 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: all right. Georgia Tech Vandy I think is one obvious one. 461 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: I think Syracuse Wazoo could be a ton of fun, 462 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 3: a lot of offense potentially, I hope. So yeah, in 463 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: that game, I'm interested in seeing what happens there. Beyond that, 464 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: the Rutgers Case State Game and the Rate Bowl, I 465 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: have almost no idea what to expect. There almost no 466 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: idea what to expect, so I'm curious at a minimum. 467 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 468 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: Who's playing in the AutoZone Liberty Bowl from a player standpoint, 469 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: but Texas Tech Arkansas feels like it could be a 470 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: really fun matchup to me. Okay, yeah, I would also 471 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: add that BYU Colorado, the Ala Mo Bowl jumps off 472 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: the page. I don't think Shador Sanders nor Travis Hunter 473 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: are playing in that game. 474 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: Hard to imagine, so I would. 475 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: Probably favor BYU. I don't know what the points where 476 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: it is. I have not seen that at least that 477 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: looks like an interesting matchup. 478 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: It's two big twelve. 479 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: Teams, which is a little weird, but at the same time, 480 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: BA versus Colorado would be an interesting storyline at a 481 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: bare minimum. You already mentioned Iowa State versus Miami. We 482 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: don't need to go into more details about that, nor 483 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: Alabama versus Michigan. I do kind of think that that 484 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl has a lot of weird 485 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: game potential. That's Louisville versus Washington. I would presume that 486 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: Tyler Shock would be playing in that game. And two 487 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: teams that I just say from a personal level, I 488 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: had a hard time trying to figure out what each 489 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: of them was going to do this season, and kind 490 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: of to that point, Baylor versus LSU two more teams 491 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: that are playing in the Texas Bowl. I had trouble 492 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: putting a finger on both of them this season. No 493 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: idea what to expect. That has a lot of weird 494 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: game potential with a lot of offense. Yeah, so I'm 495 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: interested in those. 496 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Iowa Mazoo could be interesting maybe sort of 497 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of That's Music City Bowl. Yeah, sure, I don't know. 498 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm searching here the way that this thing 499 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: is set up. Now. 500 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the College Football Playoff is interwoven into bowl season 501 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: as we know it. The game start up on December 502 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: the twentieth. The first college Football Playoff game is Friday, 503 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: December twentieth at eight pm ESPN Notre Dame Stadium, Notre 504 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: Dame hosting Indiana. The following day, there are three games. 505 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: It's SMU at Penn State early. They're hosting a white 506 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: out at noon, which is different but okay. The second 507 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: is at four pm. It's number twelve Clemson at number 508 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: five Texas. 509 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: That is officially a white out, by the way, it 510 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: is a white out, and State announced that they're doing 511 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: a white out for the SMO. Okay, they tweeted that out. 512 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: And then the late game in the Shoe is number 513 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: nine Tennessee against number eight Ohio State. Yes, so those 514 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: games are kind of the first weekend of bowl season. 515 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: There's about ten ish days in between rounds. After that 516 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: we go to the four games of the quarterfinals. Add 517 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: on ten more days thereabouts you get to the semis. 518 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: Add on ten more you get to the finals. So 519 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: this thing goes up until January the twentieth Bowl season. 520 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: I guess bowl season proper if you want to consider 521 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: kind of the old format, the old Bowl games. That 522 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: concludes on January the fourth, So we're going to have 523 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: about two to two and a half weeks in between 524 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: when the other Bowl games end and when the National Championship. 525 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: Is one interesting change. The Bahamas Bowl, which typically has 526 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: been one of the first games, yeah, is now the 527 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: absolute last game between Buffalo and Liberty on Saturday the 528 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: fourth January, so which I kind of like because Bahamas Bowl. 529 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: A lot of people had forgotten about that. I know 530 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: because I've seen the bull pick them entries that we've 531 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: had in the past. It's nice to give them their 532 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: due and have the main stage for then. 533 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: Congratulations Bahamas Ball. You are down at least one starting 534 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: quarterback with Cayden. 535 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: Salter in the portal ka In Salter in the portal. 536 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: Any other boll thoughts before we get to the transfer 537 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: portal down. 538 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: No, it was it was the first year in which 539 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: I just figured like, yeah, I'll check back in at 540 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: like five or six pm on Sunday to see what 541 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: the Bulls are instead of following along as they were 542 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: coming out in the afternoon, just because with the expanded playoff, 543 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: He's like, well, what are the opt outs going to 544 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: look like, what are the coaching changes going to look like? 545 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: And you know it would it was a it felt 546 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: like an especially easy year to say, like, well, let's 547 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: just have number thirteen and fourteen play each other and fifteen, 548 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: you know, do like a top twenty five tournament type 549 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: thing of the teams that didn't make it in. But 550 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: you know, here we are, and it's going to be 551 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, it's gonna be very tough for any 552 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: of these top you know, draft consideration type players to 553 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: justify playing an Alimobile or a Relyoquest Bowl or a 554 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: Music City Bowl type thing. And I hope for the 555 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: sake of these balls people watch. But you know, the 556 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: sport is making more it's making it more and more 557 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: difficult to justify. 558 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what happens on the viewership 559 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: side of this, because most of these games are on ESPN, 560 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: and my hunch is that if there is any kind 561 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: of dip in viewership for one reason or another, maybe 562 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: it's a playoff thing, maybe it's who knows, maybe that's 563 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: what to some changes. But this was the first year 564 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: since we've been doing this podcast, and really the first 565 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: year since I started college football falling college football, I 566 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: should say I didn't start college football right where. I 567 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: looked at the bowl matchups and I was like, wow, 568 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: this is this feels different to me than it has 569 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: in the past. 570 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely does. By the way, just when you mentioned it, 571 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: the possibly headline matchup in the opening round of the 572 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: college football playoff Tennessee Ohio State. 573 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: That's in ESPN Game, ESPN Game APM. 574 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: No brainer for the pregame show to pipe in Baker Mayfield, 575 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: who absolutely dismantled the emotions of both of these fan 576 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: bases on the road to weigh in on this matchup. 577 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: I think it was a either overtime or double overtime 578 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: against Tennessee, and like Oklahoma didn't play all that well 579 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: if memory serves, but they came back from a pretty 580 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: ridiculous deficit to win. And then of course he did 581 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: plant the flag. He was successful in planting the flag 582 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: in Ohio Stadium. You gotta bring on bake, right, it's 583 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: a little that pregame pre game. 584 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know when you need it. I want 585 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: to talk some portal smoke place all right. Portal's open, Dan, Hmmm, 586 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the portal is open. It is. 587 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: Sort of my favorite thing all college football season. 588 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 589 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: I love the fact that the two teams that I 590 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: stick for, however weirdly that may sound, are in the 591 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: College Football Playoff. I love that your team is also 592 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: in the College football Playoff. I love that we had 593 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: a year with a tick more parody and a ton 594 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: more volatility. I like all of these things immensely. The 595 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: portal is my new thing. I love the portal. 596 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I like the again, speaking of which, I like 597 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: the flag that you've planted about this. 598 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Okay. 599 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: It has introduced a level of uncertainty into the sport, 600 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: not that it needed any more of it. I realized 601 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: there are downsides, but I do like it. 602 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Full disclosure. 603 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: We root for Notre Dame in Oregon, who have been 604 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: incredible beneficiaries. Incredible beneficiaries. Yes, so of course a Notre 605 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: Dame person, an Oregon person, would be like. 606 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: It's a pretty fun time. 607 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: I get it. Believe me, I get it. I have 608 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: spoken to that very point. Yes, in the early hours 609 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: now of the portal being opened, Dan, can you walk 610 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: us through some of the names that you have heard, 611 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: oh man, some of the points of intrigue that the 612 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: audience might be interested in. 613 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's going to be quarterback, right, I 614 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: just that is going to be the headline position, because 615 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: that is who touches the ball every play and can 616 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: take you from being an average team to at least 617 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: an interesting team. And you look at some of the 618 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: teams that are in the playoff and Indiana was in 619 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: Indiana and then Curtis Rourke is one of the better 620 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the Big Ten this last season under Kurtz 621 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: Signetty and that was a huge difference maker. Obviously, Dylan 622 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Gabriela on the number one team. Like you look across 623 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: the board Will Howard at Ohio State that you can 624 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: find a quarterback to take you from or either maintain 625 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: an excellent status or take you from bad to decent, 626 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: decent to good, and so yeah, I mean, Miller Moss 627 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: is an interesting name, and I think he is looking 628 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: at supposedly reportedly like Missoo and Louisville Thomas Castellanos perhaps 629 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: reigniting hit the Spark with Gus Malson he was UCF 630 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: and now looking at Florida State. Darien Mensa is a 631 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: big name Tulane and has He's especially interesting because he 632 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: has a lot of time. Syracuse is a name that 633 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: has come up with him obviously having a lot of 634 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: success with Kyle McCord as a transfer. 635 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 636 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: Quarterback, you look at Jackson Arnold is supposedly Mississippi State, 637 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: Mississippi State heavy. We'll see, yeah, yeah, And you know, Connor, 638 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be somebody if he lands 639 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: at the right spot that there are people that are 640 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: going to say, like, well, you know, he's had shaky 641 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: offensive line play and bad injury luck and you get 642 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: the right place with the right offensive line and the 643 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: right coordinator, you know, and sometimes you just need a 644 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: fresh start. Maybe he's the next Bo Nicks, you know, 645 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: coming in as a highly regarded guy and it just 646 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: didn't work out, a lot of changes around him. Somebody 647 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: like that I think could be interesting and sort of 648 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: obviously gave everything he had to Texas A and m 649 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Devin Brown at Ohio State them in super well regarded 650 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: and he's staying through the playoff I believe he mentioned, 651 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: so he seems to be somebody who's sort of doing it. 652 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if the right way. That's sort of 653 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: like a weird way to define it. But like he's 654 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: remaining pretty loyal to Ohio State, so I think you should, 655 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: if you're an Ohio State person, regard him pretty highly. Yeah, 656 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: across the board, I think you're going to see quarterbacks 657 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: being the big names. It seems to be like a 658 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: pretty deep interesting receiver classes. 659 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: Oh Man, I got the page loaded up right now. 660 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: It's always going to be the case. It's always interesting. 661 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: Receiver is always going to be interesting, And a lot 662 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: of these guys aren't going to hit with their new team. 663 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: They're just not. 664 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 3: I feel like the hit rate might even be lower 665 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 3: with receivers. I don't have any data to back that up. 666 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: That's completely anecdotal. But some of the names in the portal, 667 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: my man, some of the names in the portal are 668 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 3: definitely going to move the needle for teams that we 669 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: root for. 670 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: CJ. 671 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 3: Daniels a pretty big one from LSU and the portal, 672 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: Casey Concepcion. I believe we talked about that at some 673 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 3: point here over the last couple of days. 674 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: Supposedly hot and heavy with Bama maybe old miss looking SEC. 675 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 676 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 3: I saw that Caleb Burton, a name from from Auburn, 677 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: I think could be of interest for some others scrolling 678 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 3: through the list here, Dane Key and Barrion Brown, both 679 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 3: from Kentucky, both in the portal YEP, seems like there'd 680 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: be some interest there. Believe it was Dane Key who 681 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: I talked about extensively last year with some issues he 682 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: had with Drops. Didn't quite have those Drops issues last 683 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 3: or this season, but there were other issues at play 684 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: clearly within that Kentucky offense, so understand why he might 685 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: want to look elsewhere. Eric Singleton seems like he's a 686 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: pretty big name. Oh yeah in this portal class and 687 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: right now as I look at this, it seems like 688 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 3: there's interest from Georgia, there's interest from Auburn. But Eric Singleton, 689 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 3: with what he did at Georgia Tech, that's a pretty 690 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: big loss for the Yellow Jackets, and it's definitely going 691 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: to be a pretty big gain for whoever decides they're 692 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: going to be able to reel him in. So Eric 693 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: Singleton's another one. John tay Cook. We mentioned John tay 694 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 3: Cook before. John tay Cook, now officially in the transfer 695 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 3: portal from Texas, was lightly used at Texas, but still 696 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: a name that I think is of note for people 697 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: who follow these things. We're going to continue to see 698 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 3: more and more names get added. If history is any 699 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: guide with respect to the transfer portal, it's one of 700 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 3: those where we just have named creep and creep and 701 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: creep and creep and creep. Sure, and suddenly there's gonna 702 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: be one that you don't expect. That sort of gets 703 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: everybody talking. But it's still sort of early days with 704 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 3: respect to this portal. As you said, for sure, the 705 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: big names are going to be on the quarterback side 706 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 3: of things, but we're going to continue to see others 707 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: trickle in on both sides of the football, So we'll. 708 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: Do our best to stay up to date. 709 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: We did our past here to try and get a 710 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: portal guest on, but obviously it's a bit of a 711 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: busy day, so weren't able to make that happen today. 712 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: We'll maybe try for that the next time around. 713 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's it's also based on what happens with 714 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: coordinators and head coaches. Obviously, then you're going to see 715 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: guys entering and following or entering and starting a new 716 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 2: path whatever with the guy who recruited them there, or 717 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: the head coach being fired and finding some new landing spot. 718 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 2: And I saw Geovanni mccoyt Oregon State. We'll see what 719 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: happens with John Mattier lost his offensive coordinator. Had a 720 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: great season mostly for Washington State. And so, you know, 721 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: that's why it's sort of a continuous fluid thing, is 722 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: because it's all tied together. I'm fascinated to see, you know, 723 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 2: the position group that seems to be the most difficult 724 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: and the most scarce is going to be offensive line. 725 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: It just seems, for whatever reason, it's really difficult to 726 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: pull guys off of rosters or convinced guys to leave 727 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: whatever that you see it from. I think it's an 728 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: Illinois State offensive tackle is super well regarded in this 729 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: just because he's got the physical makeup to come in. 730 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: And you know, Oregon starting a Rhode Island transfer, an 731 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: FCS transfer a right tackle, and they have for the 732 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: past two years. And so if I'm any if I'm 733 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: representing any of those guys, I'm asking for the moon. 734 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 735 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: In this moment, if I'm you know, representing a pretty 736 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: good to very good offensive line prospect, that's that's where 737 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: it seems extraordinarily rare and valuable to like, oh, we 738 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: can shore up the right side of our line and 739 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: you know, don't even think about it kind of way, 740 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: like that's that's going to cost you a pretty penny. 741 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: You're going to see, you know, guys along the defensive line. 742 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think Alabama lost well they jahim Otis 743 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: left midway through the year. Obviously, Bear Alexander was a 744 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 2: big name. He's visiting schools, it seems, or is about 745 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: to start visiting schools, and you know, the best of 746 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 2: Bear Alexander's very difficult to deal with, perhaps in more 747 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: ways than one, but that is you know, that's going 748 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 2: to be a huge name if a team can get 749 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: the best of him. And you know you're going to 750 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: see a lot of teams talking themselves into like, well, 751 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: he was a four star who went to Texas. He's 752 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: a four star who went to Ohio State, was a 753 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 2: four star who went to Florida and hoping for the best, 754 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: and a lot of these guys, you like see the 755 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: announcement and they're like, he had eight hundred and forty 756 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: four receiving yards in his career over the past five years, 757 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: and you're just like, wait, that doesn't amount to a 758 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: lot ty That does not amount to a ton of yardage. 759 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: Now, if we're. 760 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: Talking about incoming as a star starter kind of type. 761 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: So no, it's it's all gonna be fascinating. It's all 762 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: going to happen very quickly, and you are going to 763 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: see the same teams Colorado, Ole, Myths, Texas, Oregon, Ohio 764 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: State hitting the portal to fill in those gaps that 765 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 2: we've seen every year. 766 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: And you're going to. 767 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: See teams like Alabama or Texas, A and M who 768 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: had first year coaches. They're going to lose a bunch 769 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 2: and they're going to bring in a bunch. And I 770 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: think they're gonna bring a bunch of good players, you know, 771 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: based on what we're seeing already that has entered the portal. 772 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: The name that I am most interested in, okay, is 773 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: Dylan Theeneman from oh Purdue Perdue, the defensive back. Yeah, 774 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean he's from Indiana. We obviously understand there's a 775 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: lot going on at Purdue right now with the coaching change. 776 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: Looks like barriotam their tight end is good too. Zach Claire, 777 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah. 778 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 3: I mean typically when you've got coaching changes, you see 779 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: stuff like this go down. But Theeneman's a guy that 780 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: I think notre Dame needs to go in hard after 781 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: because he's relatively speaking, a local kid. Clearly Notre Dames 782 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: had a pretty good track record for developing safeties and 783 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 3: he's a guy who I think come in and make 784 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 3: an impact. So I'm not making the pitch. I'm advising 785 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: they make the pitch to try and bring thetam into 786 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: South Bend. 787 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a wish list for Oregon. I 788 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: imagine they're going to look at offensive line, running back, 789 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: maybe a receiver, maybe a safety or two. But obviously 790 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 2: they've recruited quite well. Tight End is interesting. Tight End 791 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: is certainly interesting. They whiffed on a couple of targets 792 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: in this recruiting class top five types, so I think 793 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: they want to build up depth there. But yeah, they 794 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 2: lose two of the three guys they play the snaps 795 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: this year, so yeah, that would be my expectation for Oregon. 796 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: They will in all likelihood not be starting another new 797 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: transfer at quarterback. They'll be starting last year's transfer at 798 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: Dante More at quarterback next year. 799 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: I think the name that I am most interested in 800 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 3: this entire cycle is Anthony Andrea from really Uva. 801 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah why. 802 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 3: Out of high school? So Clandrea is from Saint Petersburg. 803 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: Out of high school. There was a lot of steam 804 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: on Calandrew, who I think was a three star not 805 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: getting enough love, being better than some of the recruiting rankings, 806 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 3: things like that, was not as heavily recruited as he 807 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: might be now. In the transfer portal, I think at 808 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 3: time of recording, he figures in as a top ten 809 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 3: guy in the transfer portal. 810 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: By the way it was, it was Max Claire, let 811 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: me be Claire, Zach Claire, Max Claire. 812 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 3: But Clandrey not a big guy. I don't even think 813 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 3: he's six foot. But I think over the course of 814 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 3: his two years in Virginia when we've seen him, has 815 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 3: definitely shown flashes like he's a fun player to watch, 816 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 3: if nothing more. Sure, I don't know where he ends up. 817 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what the future holds for him. I 818 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 3: don't necessarily think he's a pro prospect, but I just 819 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: I tend to gravitate towards players that are kind of 820 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 3: improvisers and fun and I think he kind of checks 821 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: those boxes. It would not surprise me if he catches 822 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 3: on with somebody down in the state of Florida. I 823 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: have not seen an your rumor, so I could be 824 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: well off on that, but Calandrey is a name that, 825 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 3: for me anyway, is one of the more interesting names 826 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 3: here in this entire portal. 827 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: Utah down three quarterbacks obviously made a change in offensive coordinator, 828 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: but Brandon Rose, Isaac Wilson, and Sam sam Hewart, a 829 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: former five star, will be onto his fourth school. I 830 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: believe Washington cal Poly Utah. 831 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, does that mean that cam Risen's coming back for 832 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 3: a year number ninety nine? 833 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 2: I have no idea. They'll probably get a They'll probably 834 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: get a transfer in from somewhere else. I've seen smoke 835 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 2: around a couple guys with Utah. I mean, it's also 836 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: dependent on what else happens with the head coach. I 837 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: guess at this point we presume Cale Winton back, but 838 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: who knows. Yeah, it's fascinating, it is. I mean again, 839 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: I wasn't joking. 840 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: TJ. 841 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: Finley is heading towards his fifth destination. That's incredible. That 842 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 2: is legitimately incredible. And you knew something was going to 843 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: to break at Ohio State with that room because it is. 844 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: I think they have a top flight quarterback the next 845 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: class or this current class they signed, so it's air 846 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: Nolan was the last class Julian saying they poached from 847 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 2: Alabama when Nick Saban left. They had Lincoln Keenholtz, who 848 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 2: played a little bit in their Bowl game against Missoo 849 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: last year. If memory serves, he was a four star type. 850 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: And obviously Will Howard's gone after this season, and then 851 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: Tavian Saint Clair great name coming in, so I expect 852 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 2: Domino's at some of those big places that have stacked 853 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: quarterbacks these past few years. That's just the reality of it. 854 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: But man, is it it's just starting to spin. This 855 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: portal portal carousel, Yeah. 856 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: The portal carousel. Yeah. 857 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 3: And on that note, with regard to carousel's the final 858 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: thing that I wanted to discuss on this podcast today. 859 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 3: It is not breaking news, It is not any kind 860 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 3: of promotion for a game, and it is not the 861 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 3: transfer portal. It is these persistent, now more persistent rumors 862 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 3: that Bill Belichick may be the coach at North Carolina. 863 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: Dan Man, what is the latest reporting that like talks 864 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: are ongoing? 865 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: Was that the last you saw. 866 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: The last I saw was from Adam Schefter. That was 867 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 3: this morning, sort of confirming what Pete Thamil's been saying, 868 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: which is, talks are ongoing, they're interested in Belichick. Belichick 869 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: seemed interested in them. There's some sort of clause perhaps 870 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 3: that would maybe turn the program over to Belichick's son 871 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: if and when he walks away in that that did 872 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 3: not put unc off. 873 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: Who's currently the defensive coordinator at Washington. Correct. Yeah, correct. 874 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to hit your wagon 875 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 3: that much to Bill Belichick. I do understand that there 876 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 3: would be perhaps a recruiting draw there, come and play 877 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 3: for perhaps the greatest NFL coach of all time. So 878 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 3: as a lot of these guys are getting ready trying 879 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: to figure out where they want to go, talk about 880 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 3: somebody who can get you ready for the NFL. That 881 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: is something that Bill Belichick has in his quiver. 882 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: For sure. 883 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,479 Speaker 3: He's never coached, at least not in a while at 884 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 3: the college level. Right, signing up to essentially establish a 885 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 3: Belichick dynasty of coaches doesn't seem like a great deal 886 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: for North Carolina unless it works. Unless it works, then 887 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: maybe that's different. But just seems like it may not 888 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 3: be worth the trouble. 889 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm so confused by this. I'm so confused that this 890 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: is just an exercise in North Carolina, making it seem 891 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: so attractive that the greatest NFL coach ever. I think 892 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: that's what he is right with the you consider the 893 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowls, so previously on Bill Pelichick's tenure as an 894 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: NFL coach, it was going terribly wrong, right Like he 895 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: actively was told that we we're good. The greatest coach ever. 896 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 2: So that's not great momentum wise. Also, when you look 897 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: at the hires that have worked out really well in 898 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 2: college football, and you have to assume North Carolina wants 899 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: is hired to work out really well, it's typically somebody 900 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 2: who has spent time in or around a major program 901 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: to sort of understand the rhythms, to have high school 902 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 2: recruiting connections, to have portal connections guys they've recruited that 903 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: they can bring with them, or have sort of an 904 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 2: idea of what it is to work in major college 905 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 2: football in twenty twenty four to twenty five, and grind 906 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail, grind in the portal, have the 907 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: ability and the network to build out a front office 908 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 2: to get all of that organized, to maintain the current 909 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: players on the roster. Bill Belichick checks none of those boxes, 910 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: like you're not gonna find Maybe you won't find the 911 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,879 Speaker 2: next Dan Lanning or something, but like, find the next 912 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 2: Brent Key, find the next Fran Brown, find the next 913 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: Mike Elcho. And this isn't it, man, You're finding the 914 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: next Herm Edwards. 915 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: Belichick has never coached at the college level. Obviously his 916 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 3: son has. Right, Clearly, he's got the name. He's got 917 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 3: the name. This I hate this whole thing. He's got 918 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 3: the name. And if if Dion has taught us anything, 919 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 3: it's set. Having that name can matter. 920 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 2: Similar personalities Bill Belichick and Dion Sanders, right, but Bill. 921 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 3: Belichick does not have the swagger of coach prime. 922 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 2: Dion Sanders was a college football coach before he was 923 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 2: at Colorado. He was at Jackson State and did incredibly 924 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 2: well and recruited, had connections. Bill Belichick is on the 925 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: Manning cast saying like, I don't know if I would 926 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 2: have done that. Insane What an insane line of thinking. 927 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: If it is januine, if it's genuine, what a waste 928 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: of time for. 929 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: North Carolina to go through this. Okay, to your team, 930 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: to your programs, your school. I couldn't believe it when 931 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: I saw this, Oh my god, this is gonna be 932 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: a great story for us if it happened. 933 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: To hand it off to his son in two years. Yeah, 934 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 2: come on, it's pathetic. Try North Carolina at least try, 935 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 2: naybe it'll work. No, you know it's not gonna work. 936 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 2: In what universe? Is Bill Belichick going to be like 937 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: watching cutups of the elite eleven? 938 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: I know? 939 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 2: Is he gonna be like flying getting on a plane 940 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 2: after practice to go and fly and watch a linebacker 941 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: commit play in Tampa? No, Hire a real coach, a 942 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 2: real college coach. Hire somebody with a vision to say 943 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: I've been successful doing this as a defense coordinator or 944 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 2: a DB's coach, or receivers coach or an offensive coordinator, and. 945 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: This is what. Look at all these guys I recruited. 946 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: Look at all these connections I have. This is the 947 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: vision I have. 948 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 2: These are the coaches I'll bring with me my son 949 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 2: in two years. 950 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: So silly if true? 951 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 2: Again true, we could be just I'd be dumb dumbs 952 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: reacting to a non story here. But I don't know. 953 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: Try North Carolina. You seem to be a really cool 954 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 2: school to me from afar with potential. 955 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: I've been agad I didn't get in I wasn't smart enough, 956 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: and I was. I'm sure it wouldn't have been smart enough. 957 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah I applied. Yeah, I don't know, man, this bums 958 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: me out these types of stories. 959 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: It makes for good fodder though, if nothing more, I 960 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: guess I don't know about football all right. Well, on 961 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 3: that note, thank you one, Thank you all for downloading, 962 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 3: for listening, for supporting, going out to verbowlers dot com 963 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 3: sign up at a minimum for that freak tier. I'm 964 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 3: gonna be sending out news about Bowl Bingo a little 965 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 3: bit later this week when we open the game. Bull 966 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 3: Bingo is going to be a weekly game, as opposed 967 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 3: to what we've done in the past with Winter Wonders, 968 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 3: where that was a confidence pool. You could fill it 969 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 3: out once and be done with it. The problem with 970 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 3: a confidence pool in this day and age, with respect 971 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 3: to the bowl games, it's very difficult to have any 972 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: confidence whatsoever because everything is changing all the time. So 973 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 3: we wanted to simplify a little bit. We wanted to 974 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 3: make it a little bit more straightforward. The way this 975 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 3: game is going to work, and you will see more 976 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 3: once we open it up later this week. Each week, 977 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 3: over the span of four or five weeks, you will 978 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to fill out a College Football Bowl 979 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 3: bingo card. Got to pick a couple items that you 980 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 3: think are going to occur. Dan and I are going 981 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 3: to put together the bank of items that you get 982 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 3: to pick from. So on an ongoing basis. Once a 983 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 3: week we'll open up the games. I think maybe Sunday 984 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 3: Monday morning, you will have the opportunity to go in 985 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: there fill out your bingo card of the things you 986 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: think are going to happen. We will have weekly prizes, 987 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 3: we will have an overall prize. 988 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 2: So give me examples. By the way, if things we 989 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 2: think we're going to happen, like running back goes over 990 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards, successful fake punt called and executed, 991 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 2: lightning delay, you know whether it's specific to a football 992 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 2: play or you know it'll be obvious. It won't be 993 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 2: something like somebody catches a fade in the corner of 994 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: the end. 995 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: Z and you're like, well technically that wasn't a fad. 996 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no no no no exactly, well, 997 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 3: very specific. We're talking about things like Minnesota minus three 998 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 3: against Virginia Tech. Sure, rightly, that one's very I don't 999 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 3: know if that's the points for it. 1000 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm making that up. 1001 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that's very straightforward. In some cases, we 1002 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 3: might have Baylor passing yards against LSU the over under. 1003 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,959 Speaker 3: So it's a mix of bets, a mix of point 1004 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 3: spread bets, a mix of prop bets that we have 1005 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 3: had throughout the year, through our other game run the Board, 1006 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 3: which concluded this week, with a mix of other things 1007 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 3: that you and I come up with. So it is 1008 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 3: not just your standard Bowl game that you are accustomed 1009 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 3: to playing, your pick them, your Bowl confidence pool, anything 1010 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 3: of that nature. 1011 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: This is a mix of all the bets. 1012 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: We're going to pick out some of the ones that 1013 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: we think are fun. On an ongoing basis, you will 1014 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: get an opportunity to fill out your Bingo cards. You 1015 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 3: can keep track of them throughout the course of the week, 1016 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: and then if it doesn't go well, the good news 1017 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 3: you can play again the following week. And it's entirely free. 1018 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 3: It's entirely free to play. The only thing you need 1019 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 3: to do is going out to verbowlers dot com and 1020 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: sign up for our free tier I get. It is 1021 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 3: free to play. You do not have to pay. We 1022 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 3: are not going to spam you. That is the way 1023 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 3: that you get access to this game. It's going to 1024 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 3: open up a little bit later on this week. We 1025 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 3: will be teasing this out across our social fee using 1026 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: the very cool logo that you put together, which is 1027 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 3: it's a cool I can't do that. 1028 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: I hit it, by the way, hit the people with 1029 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 2: some of the prizes we gave out during our Run 1030 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 2: the Board week we challenge this year. 1031 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we gave out an Apple Watch. 1032 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: Gave out an Apple Watch, gave a Solo Stove something right. 1033 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: Solo stove mesa x L. 1034 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: We gave out a PS five I believe, we gave 1035 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 3: out yetti gift cards. 1036 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: We gave out all sorts of pie people highs. 1037 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean we there was no shortage of creativity. Home 1038 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 3: field stuff, Yeah, it's our friends out at home field 1039 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 3: shirt Nike. 1040 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: Maybe do we do Nike? We did, We did do 1041 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: Nike at one point. 1042 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 3: All of these things that we have done over the 1043 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 3: course of the last two years. Now with Run the Board, 1044 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna circle the wagons here, get together be as 1045 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 3: creative as we can. You and I not just with 1046 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 3: respect to the game, but the prizes that we give out. 1047 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 3: So yes, As we said, there'll be weekly prizes. There 1048 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 3: will be a grand prize as well. Details on that 1049 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 3: will be forthcome. We're going to unveil a little bit 1050 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 3: more about all of that later on in the week. 1051 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: In the interim though, for bowlers dot Com senate for 1052 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 3: the free tier. If you want to play some bowl 1053 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 3: bingo with Dan. 1054 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 2: And I, yes, absolutely get to it and sign up. 1055 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 2: You can also be found at connodlewidtie dot com. 1056 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: We do not own that domain. I do. It's available 1057 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: nineteen dollars. You can buy that. 1058 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 3: I am not allotting any more company funds to more 1059 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 3: domains unless it's got to put Do you. 1060 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: Know how many domains we own at this point, like five, twelve? 1061 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1062 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 3: We'll lunch twelve. I wish we only had twelve. I 1063 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 3: was in there yesterday switch it around some settings because 1064 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 3: I'm working on the bingo thing. 1065 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. 1066 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 3: We are spending hundreds of dollars a year on dumb 1067 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 3: domains that we bought over the course of time. 1068 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: We got to rein in our domain budget. I'm all 1069 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: about letting Smelltie's hair expire. 1070 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 2: Oh, but I feel like I will buy Canodle with 1071 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 2: tie that's going to come out of my kid's college fund. 1072 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 3: No, all right, well look good to check in with 1073 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 3: the verbawler hood. You know where to go to sign 1074 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,240 Speaker 3: up for the game. You know that the portal is ongoing. 1075 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 3: We're going to do our best to stay on top 1076 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 3: of that. As I said a little bit later on 1077 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 3: this week, Bill Connolly, our friend from ESPN, is going 1078 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 3: to stop by. 1079 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: We'll put a bow in the season. 1080 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 3: We're also going to have an episode I believe we're 1081 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 3: going to end up dropping it this weekend where we 1082 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 3: go through the first batch the first seventeen non playoff 1083 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 3: Bowl games, just give you points of intrigue, things to 1084 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 3: be interested in. If we can find bowld gifts, we're 1085 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 3: going to talk through what those are. For some reason, 1086 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: they're not as forthcoming about what they're giving out these days. 1087 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because they're doing the gift 1088 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 3: suite thing or if there's any kind of privacy issue, 1089 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 3: but we're going to do our best to try and 1090 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 3: mine that information because it is of course very very 1091 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 3: impacted this verballer hood. 1092 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: If you work for one of the Bulls, or you 1093 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 2: work for a team anonymously, tip us off. Be our 1094 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 2: our swag mole. Swag mole dot com. 1095 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,439 Speaker 1: TI you can buy that with yours. 1096 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, be our swag mole to tell us what's in 1097 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 2: the suites, what players are getting solid reble at gmail 1098 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: dot com. 1099 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: We will be our swag mole. We will protect your identity. 1100 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: We will protect your identity with our lives. Yes, of course, 1101 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: of course. 1102 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 3: Uh so there is of course that to look forward to. 1103 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 3: We'll do the Bowl preview next Tuesday. We are going 1104 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 3: to do our first round playoff preview episode on the 1105 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 3: four games that are going to be played, and we 1106 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: are still working through what if any kind of alternate 1107 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 3: stream situation. We will deploy here as we get into 1108 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 3: playoff season. 1109 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: Yes, so stay tuned for all that in much much 1110 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: more game. I will. 1111 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 3: All right for that guy over there, my good friend 1112 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hill and brand as always, 1113 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 3: thank you for downloading, for listening, for supporting. 1114 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you hit follow or subscribe. We will talk 1115 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: to you all on Thursday. N time state sound peace. 1116 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,479 Speaker 1: We're on a wake forest, on a col