1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Big Fish Smallpod. I'm Andrew Werdahl, 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: and today is May thirteenth. Today what I want to 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: talk with you about is Marlin's general manager Kim Ang 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: and how she's really well poised to take this Marlin's 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: team to October and beyond. So really what is key 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: to her is her extensive knowledge in baseball. She began 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: like working in Major League Baseball for the Chicago White 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Sox dating back to nineteen ninety. She was with them 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: through like the early nineties into ninety six, where really 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: her responsibilities worked around like well, like initially her responsibility 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: was to like find Rule five draft prospects, so like 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: looking through scouting reports and exploit other team's minor league 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: systems to try to find that like diamond in the 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: rough that's overlooked and not even on your like forty 15 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: man roster at an extended age for a prospect. So 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: she's always been in this like real like down to 17 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: earth what is happening on the baseball field and who's 18 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: bringing that extra little bit of it like a spark 19 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: to the field with them. That led her into working 20 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: for the American League processing transactions, approving like waivers for 21 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: ball clubs as an example again like just gaining like 22 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: a knowledge base in all of those like small little details. 23 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Then that took her to the New York Yankees. Brian 24 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Cashman sought her out for to be an assistant to 25 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the general manager, and that was at dare I say, 26 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: the height of the Yankees dynasty nineteen ninety eight to 27 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, when they won like three World 28 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: Series championships, talking about like Derek Jeters Yankees when you're 29 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: talking about that. And it took her to Los Angeles 30 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: where she basically continued in a similar position, but with 31 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: like a less established ball club like the Dodgers. Now 32 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: they're something of a dynasty. They've been in the playoffs 33 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen, and they were a much different team 34 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: in like the mid two thousands, mid early two thousands, 35 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: as they were like getting their footing really as like 36 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: a growing organization. I mean, they're the Los Angeles Dodgers. 37 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: They're always somewhat relevant throughout history, but at the time 38 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: they were really getting their feet off the ground, trying 39 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: to in some ways build off of what was going 40 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: on with the New York Yankees, who were one of 41 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: those like rare teams running that like maximalist like sort 42 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: of set up where their baseball team gets like full 43 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: investment from its ownership and from its upper management and 44 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: fully budgeted to like have a contending team or like 45 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: a rarity in the sport, and the Los Angeles Dodgers 46 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: were looking to kind of like in some ways like 47 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: glom off of that. So kim Ang was brought in 48 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and the team had some success through the two thousands, 49 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: nothing ridiculous. It wasn't really until they like landed like 50 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: a large TV deal that they were able to extend 51 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: their budget to the point that they are now. Certainly 52 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: like kim Eng's efforts helped like the team reach the 53 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: point where they could get such a contract. It was 54 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: something of a norm to have these like massive, multi 55 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: billion potentially contracts for television rights in the like early 56 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: to like late oughts, early tens, And what we're seeing 57 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: now is like a different trend because of cable, less 58 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: people are watching cable than streaming. So the Dodgers, in essence, 59 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: what they needed to do was just gain traction and 60 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: prove their importance to people that would then be inclined 61 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: to like keep their cable bill going and then the 62 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Dodgers did lan in a contract like that and gained 63 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: the ability to make large transactions like one of their 64 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: biggest deals of the time, like traded for Josh Beckett 65 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: and Adrian Gonzalez, both former Marlins from the Boston Red Sox. 66 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: As it were, So that was something of like a 67 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: real like flip into this like actual active dynasty mode 68 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: that we saw with the Dodgers as they like became 69 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: this like current powerhouse really like following like Clayton Kershaw's career, which, 70 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: like Kim eng overlapped, was a bit early on, but 71 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: since like separate ways were made of Kim became involved 72 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: in like the Major League Baseball League Office, engaging with 73 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: like many Major League Baseball teams. In an article interview 74 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: for MLB dot Com, she revealed that like that was 75 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: a really beneficial opportunity for her because it gave her 76 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the chance to hear how all these teams were thinking 77 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: about baseball and the ability to like know the different 78 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: perspectives on the sport and to be able to communicate 79 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: on those different levels and engage with these different ball 80 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: clubs in a way that's potentially advantageous to her own 81 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: perspective and her own beliefs of what will grow her 82 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: ball club. That she's you know, been a part of 83 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: a practice in numerous winning organizations. Like actually in her career, 84 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: her like twenty two seasons with Major League Baseball teams, 85 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: including this past season with the Miami Marlins, she's actually 86 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: eighteen winning seasons to four losing seasons, like an eighty 87 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: one percent winning percentage. So it's not a stretch to 88 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: say that, like she knows how to win. She's not 89 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 1: this general manager who's brought in to like do your 90 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: rebuild to become a contender and then like go over 91 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: the top in the typical manner of your like small 92 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: market the club organization. What you have is this like 93 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: dynasty minded general manager who's thinking out. She's thinking like 94 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: long term, how to grow the Dodgers, how to you know, 95 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: like supplement a roster in the ways that maybe the 96 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties Chicago White Sox like failed to do. But 97 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: with the perspective of years and with just the power 98 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: given to her now, she has the ability to like 99 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: face on all these like questions you're faced as the 100 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: general manager, even with these like minor transactions, she has 101 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: an eye for it. Her first like task with the 102 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Marlins to find some relief pitching. It was like a 103 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: huge need at the time, and she went out and 104 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: found like Anthony Bender as an example of one of 105 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: the like minor sinees that we're due to the effort 106 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: she took to just watch a ton of video of 107 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: those like minor league level players. Really like dating back 108 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: to her experience in like nineteen ninety the skills are 109 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: like still there because they've been accumulating since that point. 110 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: It's like an expert level of a general manager with 111 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: like a real, like balanced poise. She talked in that 112 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: same April twenty fifth, twenty twenty two interview with MLB 113 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: dot Com that it's like she sees her role as 114 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: conducting the orchestra, where she knows when to bring everyone 115 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: in at the right times. It's this perspective that she 116 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: takes where she knows the limits of her involvement and 117 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: can anticipate paid to an extent. With that she sees 118 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: beyond to help set up her people into the right 119 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: positions to succeed. So I am incredibly optimistic before the 120 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: future of this team, and it doesn't seem like they've 121 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: gone out of their breaches for Aby Garcia or Jorge Solaire, 122 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: and the way the team has played is pretty consistent 123 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: with the idea that like, these players are your players. 124 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: It's giving us great drama on the field. I'm curious 125 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: to see what happens tonight as the Violins take on 126 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers and face Corbyn Burns behind Pablo Lopez. 127 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: So tonight at six forty is the game before that, 128 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: leading up to a checkout Fish Stripes Live for hour 129 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: perspective on the upcoming series