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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, Super wild Card Weekend was

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Speaker 1: super from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Flagship show. Yes, Jason Zamalt said, it is Super

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Speaker 1: wild Card Weekend. It's almost through, boys, we got one

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Speaker 1: more game. But today's show tonight shows recapping all the

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Speaker 1: crazy action of Saturday and Sunday. Dan Hands is here,

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Speaker 1: Gregg Rosnthal, Mark Sessler, Hey, boys, it's a little wild.

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Speaker 1: Always feels a little different when we're taping the whole show.

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Speaker 1: After what was Sunday Night Football Bengals Ravens that Paul

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Speaker 1: just slipping right outside of James Prochet's hands. But I

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Speaker 1: guess it's fitting crazy, crazy weekend. Yes, Mark, it was crazy, wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean? So after this, after the Seattle San Francisco game,

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe the league, to some degree, now that

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Speaker 1: it's playoff time, is returned to the form that I

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Speaker 1: recall from when we started this show, where you get

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Speaker 1: a dotting of playoff games that are close but a

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Speaker 1: with the league. Like everyone outside of that contest, which

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Speaker 1: even was close at halftime, every game seems to veer

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Speaker 1: into the totally absurd and bizarre and wild and wonderful

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Speaker 1: plays in perfectly too, and listeners of the show, longtime listeners, No,

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Speaker 1: I I've done this before, pro bono. By the way,

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Speaker 1: um I offer up league slogans. I have one, just

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Speaker 1: one to share the NFL. We're not perfect, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, neither are you. But our product it's good.

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Speaker 1: It works. How it just take out the whole first

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Speaker 1: sentence and go right to the product that's get Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I don't let you know. Of course, the NFL our league,

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Speaker 1: it's a big target. But how about we look in

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Speaker 1: the mirror before we start throwing stones. That's part of

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Speaker 1: that's a part of a broader message. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get out there to people's Yeah, they're protecting themselves in

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Speaker 1: a way that no one can critque. You was shooting

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Speaker 1: from approved glass. Why don't you step aside so we

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Speaker 1: could actually critique of our sports? Oh yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the through line here was like, oh, you don't like

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Speaker 1: not entertained? Have you seen our ratings? What if we

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Speaker 1: be certainly. So anyway, we're gonna get into all the games.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll through it Saturday through Sunday. And there was

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Speaker 1: and here's the thing. To Mark's point, there was only

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Speaker 1: team that eventually got blown out was freaking winning at halftime.

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Speaker 1: That's that's how wild Super wild Card weekend was. So

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners looked to make their Lombardi Trophy march. Well,

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty gonna all back man, a wide open Deebo

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Speaker 1: where the forty Niners wanted to start their march to

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Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy in style. That would have been a

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Speaker 1: better way to get into that highlight. Well you did

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Speaker 1: it anyway, Greg, Papa k n b R with the

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Speaker 1: like excitement about brock Purty happened with Deebo Samuel resting

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Speaker 1: and a great defense to boot and you saw both

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Speaker 1: this isn't in the third or fourth quarter. This is

429
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Speaker 1: happening so early that there's so much time to work

430
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Speaker 1: your way out of this if you can pull it together.

431
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Speaker 1: And I want to just point to one thing that

432
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Speaker 1: I thought that was very um indicative of the last

433
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Speaker 1: week plus with the Chargers, and it was when they

434
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Speaker 1: were up seven nothing and it was a third and

435
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: one for the Charges that their own twenty seven and

436
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert planned down audible to a plan down jet sweep.

437
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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this because it was the play where

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Speaker 1: Michael Bandy came around. There was a box job on

439
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: third down, they were forced to punt, and the Jaguars

440
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: took the ensuing drive into the touchdown and into the

441
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Speaker 1: end zone seven and suddenly, after all this nightmarishness, you're

442
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: only down by twenty with a half to go. And

443
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: on that play, it was initially, you know, weeks ago,

444
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Speaker 1: it would be Mike Williams who would have done the

445
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Speaker 1: jet sweep for Christmas Marty, And you kept the play

446
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: in the playbook. Bad idea because it was DeAndre Carter,

447
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: who was Mike Williams's back up, who would have done this.

448
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: But DeAndre Carter was injured by the time that play happened,

449
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: and so you got Michael Bandy, who Herbert mentioned after

450
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: the game was Michael Bandy didn't even know what he

451
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: was supposed to be doing on the play. So that

452
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: is a coaching disaster mixed with a situational disaster mixed

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Speaker 1: with the mistake by a team that couldn't hold onto

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Speaker 1: a lead, and it opened up the doorway for a

455
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Jaguars squad that walked right back in goods that I

456
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Speaker 1: had to go back to like rewatch how this all happened.

457
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: And that was one of the players where you thought,

458
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Speaker 1: if they just got a yard on this play, they're

459
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Speaker 1: gonna win that game, which is crazy to say, but

460
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Speaker 1: I really think they would have. They would have ended

461
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Speaker 1: the first half, uh if Herbert had hit a wide

462
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Speaker 1: open Alan when they were up twenty four nothing. Herbert

463
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: played pretty well in this game for the most part,

464
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Speaker 1: made a lot of players that weren't there. Certainly his

465
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Speaker 1: life was order. I think the Trevor Lawrence was in

466
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Speaker 1: terms of he was really having a work for tough place,

467
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Speaker 1: but misses that throw. Then you think about the Joey

468
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Speaker 1: Bosa mistakes, like I can't remember a single player having

469
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Speaker 1: a bigger meltdown lining up in the neutral zone on

470
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Speaker 1: a play where they got a sack and would have

471
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Speaker 1: forced Jacksonville to kick a field goal when they were

472
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Speaker 1: trying to make that comeback. Was another four point play,

473
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Speaker 1: then he had the penalty obviously left to the two

474
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Speaker 1: point conversions. Like, we can go through all the plays

475
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Speaker 1: that they messed up, but it's like the other team

476
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: also has to take advantage of it, and Jacksonville did

477
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Speaker 1: the whole freaking time. And I'm just so impressed by

478
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Lawrence and Trent Balki, especially like every

479
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Speaker 1: single one of their free agent pickups from last season

480
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Speaker 1: and everyone's wearing the Balky clown knows to the stadium

481
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Speaker 1: like all their leading receivers, and then fully fought to

482
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Speaker 1: Kassi with the biggest play on defense to the game,

483
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Speaker 1: all free agents that were not on the team. You're

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Speaker 1: let the Jaguars serve as the ultimate example. Uh, no

485
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Speaker 1: matter how downtrodden you are, um, things can change quickly

486
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: in the league. It helps when you have a generational

487
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Speaker 1: talent a quarterback at the scene, and after making the

488
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Speaker 1: worst higher of the decade in Urban Meyer, you make

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Speaker 1: perhaps one of the best when it's all said and done,

490
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Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson, who I thought was amazing in this game, Um,

491
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Speaker 1: everything he did was the right call and the joe

492
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: and the Joey Bosa play. Um after the touchdown, what

493
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Speaker 1: is the pull that it would have pulled them the

494
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Speaker 1: extra point after the score would have pulled him within

495
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Speaker 1: three an obvious extra point situation. And he gets a

496
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Speaker 1: second penalty for arguing with the reps. So cool gets

497
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Speaker 1: the second penalty having the distance of the two points

498
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Speaker 1: for the point after and he goes for two, which

499
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Speaker 1: he's got. He would, let's be fair, because we'd probably

500
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Speaker 1: be given him something right now if he if they

501
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: didn't get it done. But that was faith in his offense,

502
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: faith and his players and his scheme, and they convert

503
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Speaker 1: that and it's kind of unheard of have onions at

504
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Speaker 1: that level to then set it up where when you

505
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: do get the ball back, you're winning the game with

506
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Speaker 1: a field goal, which they did. So Peterson, it's a

507
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: big analytics thing and you say it's unheard of, but

508
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was doing a lot back in in the playoffs.

509
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Speaker 1: It's just I just have a lot of respect for it.

510
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Peterson talking about Trevor Lawrence and who

511
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: he reminds him of. I played with one of the

512
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks ever and Brett far Of, and there were

513
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: times when you know, he didn't have a great first

514
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: half and came back in the second half and and uh,

515
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: we could light it up. And that's what that's what

516
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Speaker 1: I love about Trevor and his demeanor and his aggressiveness

517
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Speaker 1: and the ability to just forget and move on. Um.

518
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: But he'll be the first one to tell you that

519
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: it's not it's not about him. The guys around him

520
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: to made made plays. Protection was good, receivers were doing

521
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: a nice job being where they needed to be. UM.

522
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Speaker 1: But you know, from an individual standpoint, it was, uh,

523
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Speaker 1: this is really a a great performance by our quarterback.

524
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: I think that we saw Trevor Lawrence because we mentioned

525
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: it on the show a bunch go through sort of

526
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: a psychological shift in that London game where it's like,

527
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the same Trevor Lawrence. I'm

528
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: gonna be someone new, And that's been the case. But

529
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: it's also coaching because if you're Doug Peterson and he

530
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: was like best friends with Brett Farve, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: back up forever. Like you have so many anecdotes and

532
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: stories of one of the great's melting and being like Trevor,

533
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine, and like I just you felt

534
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: that with Trevor Lawrence. But there was also schematic because

535
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Brandon Staley were adequately, you know, praised

536
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: for using all sorts of disguise coverages against Trevor Lawrence

537
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: early on in the game. And if you look at

538
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's numbers against the Sky's coverage, it falls off

539
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: a shelf. He's not the same guy. But count Peterson

540
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: encountered in the second half with a rash of hurry

541
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: up snaps, and of their fifteen hurry up snaps, twelve

542
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: came in the second half. They average ten point five

543
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: yards per play. Uh, Lawrence had three passes of twenty

544
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: more or more yards. They all came like so a

545
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: year ago you had a co Urban Meyer And it's

546
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: not just a rip on Urban Meyer, this Tweese, but

547
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: who has none of those anecdotes of a quarterback dating

548
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: back to his own playing days and had no concept

549
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: schematically how to hell Trevor Lawrence. Everything is new for

550
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: tangible reasons with Doug Peterson and like all the good Yeah,

551
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: that's a great point mark, that's a good point mark.

552
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: All that sets up one seven left, fourth and one,

553
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Speaker 1: And despite it all feeling inevitable, they did get to

554
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: a spot at one seven fourth and one where if

555
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: you don't get a yard, the Chargers are gonna win

556
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: a game, win the game anyways, and the Jaguars are

557
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: getting ready to snap the ball and Doug Peterson runs

558
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: in with to me is one of the most memorable

559
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: time out and that that I can remember because it's

560
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: it totally turned the game. He didn't enthal hyper believe

561
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: thet all time. I mean, sure, throw it up to it.

562
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: How many timelines could be better than that? You basically

563
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: won a playoff game with that, But he didn't like

564
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: he saw in that moment uses the time out comes

565
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: out of it with that beautiful play where it ends

566
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Speaker 1: up being e t N where they like basically have

567
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: him one on one on a something Samuel Jr. Good

568
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: luck with that, and they stuck with the run during

569
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: that comeback. I just I just was so impressed. But

570
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be talking about Lawrence and or Peterson if

571
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: the defense hadn't like started that comeback for them. It

572
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: was such a great example of like that it's a

573
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: team sport because the Jaguars quietly stop the Chargers in

574
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: the second quarter on three straight three and outs while

575
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: while Lawrence is still throwing interceptions four for sixteen for

576
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: thirty yards and four interceptions at one point and in

577
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the second quarter that's really where the

578
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: comeback started. They stopped him three straight three and outs,

579
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Speaker 1: including after that muffed punt that they got over at

580
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: the six. So it's like it's a team game. And

581
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the defense really stepped up two down the stretch. They

582
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: rushed the passer they did, and um, let's here for

583
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers now, because this is um for a star

584
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: crossed organization. Charger is gonna Charger and all that. I

585
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: mean the fact that that was a major part of

586
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: the discourse on Twitter. Even when they were way ahead,

587
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: there was almost a, I don't know, a general confidence

588
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: that this game was going to be close. I think

589
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: anybody watching it just because this is what this organization

590
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: has always done. I guess it doesn't matter. They always

591
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: say it's just a laundry. It's just laundry, But why

592
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: do certain teams seem to have this type of stink

593
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: that follows them through the decade a crushing loss. Here's

594
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: Derwin James, their star safety. UM asked about his feeling

595
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: after the game. This is tough because you guys are

596
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: you guys are unit, You guys have been connected. Um,

597
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: can you put it into words? I don't even have

598
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: any words for right now. Like I said, I've been

599
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: playing football allective and now here is the other star

600
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Speaker 1: of the defense, UM, superstar of the defense, Joey Bosa, who,

601
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: as we said, at a very tough game. UM, I'm

602
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna have this in two parts because they're very distinct.

603
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: Here as part one, I need to be more accountable

604
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: for my actions, obviously, but it's uh, it's a heated

605
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: game and I'm hurting out there. I'm playing on half

606
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: a leg. Um, I'm getting dragged to the ground whatever

607
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: could hurt me along with screwing our team. And yeah,

608
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe some of them weren't as blatant as I thought,

609
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: but UM, I don't know. And then Joey Boz says,

610
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: effic I don't care if there's a FedEx package on

611
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: my stool one Monday. I think there just needs to

612
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: be more accountability on. I mean, if I say something

613
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: to them, I get fine. But if they blow a

614
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: call that ruins an entire team's season, they get to

615
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: they're probably back in the locker room after getting my

616
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: god got that. Yeah, I got him fifth ten yards

617
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a loser. I guarantee it. That's what they're talking' Um,

618
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: how do you know? I'm sick of those people so far. Sorry,

619
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: but man, I kind of love it. Yeah. I mean, listen,

620
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: some of the calls are bad and I have to say, like, um,

621
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see it. You're gonna see the think

622
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: pieces in the days ahead. The officiating, which has been

623
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: under the microscope because it has not been good uh

624
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: this year. It wasn't good this weekend either, and these

625
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: are supposed to be the best cruise in in the game.

626
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying all the officiating was bad, but

627
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: there were I feel like every game there were major calls,

628
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: uh that were missed. Saturday was a disaster and Sunday

629
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: was good. Well, I don't know, I don't know. There

630
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: was particularly egregious call in Minnesota that give the Vikings

631
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: life on their last year. The one thing that when

632
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: they are they are jumping in using some of their

633
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: ability to quickly replay stuff and get it right there

634
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: at least is that because I mean, I know it

635
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: seems worse than ever, but I can remember get like

636
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: a playoff game back in like the nineties, where it's

637
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: like a missed call just led to a team losing,

638
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: and it's like there was I agree with both, so

639
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: that like the refs do it, and then we complain

640
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: about it for two days and then they're essentially anonymous

641
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: individuals and they go on to do their job the

642
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: next week. But we all remember Joey, Bosa, Melton and

643
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Speaker 1: I understand frustration, but then it was like non holding

644
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: calls and I didn't think they were crazy. Bosa and

645
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Mac definitely did not show up in the second half

646
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: of the game, and that it's part of what's frustrating

647
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: for him is that it really was more on the

648
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: defense in the second half. The offense weirdly had its

649
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: problems in the first half while they were getting a

650
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: huge lead. But the offense, which everyone shares in a

651
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: blame like this, Brandon Staley does, Herbert does, the offense does,

652
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: but to go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, the

653
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: one thing the offense did in the second half was

654
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: actually go on longer drives and limit possessions to the

655
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: point where the Jaguars had to pitch a perfect game

656
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: in the second half because they like this. You're a

657
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: very vocal member of the Herbert Hive and the and

658
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: that's a very loud group in the in the Twitter verse.

659
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: But they scored three points in the second half, and

660
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: you even said it on So they go seven for

661
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven, seven three. You gotta do better than score

662
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: three points and then go three and out. That's they collapse.

663
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: But in a comeback like this, kind of like that

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Speaker 1: Minnesota game we were talking about, like how many things

665
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: had to go wrong, they limited to where they had

666
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown and then the game winning field

667
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: goal exactly on every single one of those drives, and

668
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: they got a touch onw just count. There are moments

669
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: and like we're talking about Trevor Lawrence the way we're

670
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: talking about we're forgiving four interceptions because of how we

671
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: bounced back. And I don't think it's a Justin Herbert

672
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: thing as much as like the Joe Lombardi experience. UM,

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where the argument is to continue with

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00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: on on with that for another year. I think they

675
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: had the ball with five plus and they had a

676
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: chance to seal this thing. They went three and out.

677
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: There were just these drives that matter, and like the

678
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: whole second half, You're right, there were some elongated drives,

679
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: but it Lenton edited a punt, a field goal, and

680
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Cameron Dicker's second miss field goal. Like in a million years,

681
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: that was a huge miss special teams issue, and I

682
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: think Staley got absolutely spooked from the chuckle heads like

683
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: us banging on him for not going for fourth downs

684
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: last year, and you saw multiple games this week one

685
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: because you went for it on fourth down and then

686
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: that weirdly doesn't get mentioned as much as when it

687
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: goes wrong. But Staleley did the opposite. He kicked field

688
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: goals from the four yard line, the five yard line,

689
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: and then when Dicker missed that kick, he had a

690
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: fourth and three with under eight minutes to go, where

691
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: I first down there would have been just absolutely huge.

692
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Didn't have the guts to go for it, was going

693
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: to at first change his mind. They missed the field goal,

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Speaker 1: and justin Herbert, I'm not throwing Herbert off under the rest,

695
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think he didn't play well, but he

696
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: also didn't play poorly. He just had like a block point.

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00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: I love Herbert, maybe not at the Genu Flec level,

698
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: but I really I see him as at one of

699
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: the great young talents in the league. But I think

700
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: sometimes there's because the discourse around him is it's almost

701
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: like the political landscape where it's just people just mad

702
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: yelling about Herbert, where it's like, man, like we talked

703
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: the thursday, you because you're a big Herbert guy, and

704
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: you said, well, the reason the Charges win is because

705
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: they have the best quarterback, and you're gonna see that here.

706
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I only saw one special quarterback of the future in

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00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: this game, and I'm not I'm not taking away from

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00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: her but I still think he's excellent. I wish he

709
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: was on my team. But I thought, I'm watching Lawrence

710
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, we're gonna see this guy in the

711
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: playoffs for fifteen years. That's a Hall of Fame player

712
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: just starting his career. And I just thought, like on

713
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: that stage, Lawrence was special and Herbert Wasn't look at

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00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: their stats because like it's crazy how similar they were.

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00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: They both inefficient each through it about you know, Herbert

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00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: through at forty three times for two seventy three. Lawrence

717
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: through at forty seven times for two eight eight. Herbert

718
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: has the one touchdown no interceptions Lawrence, and I love

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: that callback you had to Andrew luck had the four touchdowns,

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00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: four interceptions. That was just like lux game. He threw

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: three in that game and then wind up through and fourth,

722
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: so they were ups and there downs. I do think

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00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: it's fair, though, to point out that the Chargers run

724
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: it twenty five times for fifty yards and the Jaguars

725
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: have a great running game, that Lawrence has a great

726
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: play caller who has a sense of the moment and

727
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: schemes guys wide open. Herbert has Lombardi who puts three

728
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: tight ends on the field for a play action plass

729
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: to start that last drive in Zion Johnson loses a

730
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: block one on one their first round pick and gives

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00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: up a quick pressure like I don't think that it's

732
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: remotely even his coaching is not good. I would also

733
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: say that Herbert has a head coach who played Mike

734
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: Williams and his starters deep into the season finale when

735
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: it was an utterly meaningless task to do so explain

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Speaker 1: it oft in a weird way. And then if you

737
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: look at all if you look at Keenan Allen's numbers,

738
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: when Mike Williams has not been in the lineup this year,

739
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: they fall off a cliff and you're leading received or

740
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: is your tight end in in the biggest playoff game

741
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: of your life? If you you if you take these

742
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: two things, um, these three things, the fact that Staley

743
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: in general has been an underwhelming head coach UM since

744
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: being hired, to the devastating decision to play his starters

745
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: a week a team, then lose his biggest playmaker for

746
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: the playoff game, and then three for his team to

747
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: blow twenty seven nothing lead. You would think, Oh, Stalley

748
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: is gonna get fired. Jim Trotter, who's really plugged in,

749
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: veteran reporter for NFL Network, who knows that team very well,

750
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: has been around them and covering them for years. UM

751
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: did a Twitter thread so today where he he outlined

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00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: his thoughts and how this thing could play out, and

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00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: and and that to him, it seemed like Staley there's

754
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: a good chance he would survive. Maybe not the offensive coordinator,

755
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: but Staley would be safe. And I know that's not

756
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: what Chargers fans who are in their feelings right now

757
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: want to hear. But that's what Trotter thinks when one

758
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: of the reasons was because the linking Sean Payton to

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Speaker 1: l A. It's like the way that charges operate. It's

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00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: not because they're miserly, according to Trotter. I mean, I

761
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: think a lot of people think that. But there is

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00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: a salary issue with someone like Peyton. They want to play.

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00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: They want to pay first time coaches and coordinators to

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00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: become head coaches, but they don't want to give up

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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: the draft picks. They wanted to use those to develop players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a choice. It's a choice. I don't

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00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: know if I agree with it. But this this brings

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00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: me no um joy because this this man has seriously

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00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: been one of my um favorite broadcasters in in my life.

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00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: But um, al, I think we're gonna look back at

771
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: this game is maybe at the beginning of the end

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00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: for Al Michael's who terrible job by the way, um

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00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: by NBC. UM I kind of pointed this out on

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00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: Thursday that it wasn't with herb Street and I know

775
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: that's different because that's Amazon, but you don't throw two

776
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: guys together don't have a lot of experience. You certainly

777
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: don't throw two older guys together when you don't have

778
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: somebody that's an excitable presence. And that's why I know

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Collinsworth is not a favorite of yours, Mark, but Collinsworth

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: does bring that kind of joyfulness to the to the sport.

781
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: And you hear his excitement and that plays off well

782
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: with Al Michael's Alan Tony Dungee, who Tony Dungee is

783
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: like paint drying listening to his voice. Here is the

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00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: final call of the game, in one of the greatest

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00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: comebacks in the history of the sport. Here we go

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00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: for the wind, got it, but there's a flagdown. There's

787
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: a flagdown as everybody's running out onto the field, but

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00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: there's a penalty marker and they call it on the

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00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: defense Tonable. That is unbelievable. Patterson poots them into the

790
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: divisional round. I love and you're really twisted the knife.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with Oh, I'm sorry to offend

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00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: you sensibility, of course, I agree with you. Were like

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00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: listening to the call, Can I just can I say

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00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: one thing? Because it's it was a lot of people

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00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: were talking about it. Believe me, I I am with

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00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: you before the game even started, and I'm with you now.

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00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: I totally agree that you need to pair him with

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00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: one that's gonna bring more energy. I like that that

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00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: it was I was asking myself all game why did

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00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: they put these two together? But when it comes to

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00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth, it's his it is the voice. It's not

802
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: his analysis. Thing. Is a great analyst, but it's like

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00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: he's a little folksy and his voice gets on my nerves.

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00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: That's more of a aesthetic. I just wish that Al

805
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: was given someone that would make him why. I don't

806
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: need to hear I don't need to hear from Tony

807
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Dungee on anything. They'll check out his record on opinions

808
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: on other things in the world. Now you have me

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00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: in the in a booth in the best game of

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00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: the year als seventy eight years old. I hope Al

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00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: has a long career ahead of him. Still, UM, I

812
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: just wonder if we'll look back is like, oh, it

813
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: wasn't Dungee though, batching like the confusion of like the

814
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: balls at the one yard line, but it's still the

815
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: two nights. Um. Finally, before we moved off this game,

816
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: another tough night. Al had a tough night. So did

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00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: our producer, who tweeted this when things were going all

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Chargers Justin Graver at Titans Film Room, hashtag Titans for

819
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: maximum cloud engagement. We're incredibly boring all year. No one

820
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: wanted to see them in the playoffs over Jacksonville. But

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Speaker 1: I promise you Titans Chargers would have been a better

822
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: game than this. Hissing venom, hissing venom, Grave digger. I

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00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: should have said a better half than this. Huh, how

824
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: about that that would have worked? How about just keep

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00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: the Titans out of the discourse. No, this was full

826
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: of Titans fans were complaining that the Titans shouldn't have

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00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: even tried to make the play. Now you have a

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Speaker 1: national international platforms the producer of this program. People are

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00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: going to see that and amplify that and come back

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00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: at you. It's amazing. My tweet got over a thousand likes,

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Speaker 1: and I owned the tweet. I got the cloud. I

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00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: quote tweeted myself and I said I played myself or

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00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: whatever that was. Have you kept it up and then

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00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: you made a joke about yourself. That's tweet. It's up there.

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00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Whenever it was when I tweeted that haven't you gotten

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Speaker 1: to aren't we at the point? Now? Where have you

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00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: have you out about tweeting something in the first half

838
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: of a game like this where it's a declarative and

839
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: then you're like, wait a minute, with the way the

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00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: NFL's like, I'm not tweeting this because it's gonna go

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00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: south in like an hour. I was literally thinking, like

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00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: Staley's defense is built to like forced teams into passing

843
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: all the time. Like that's what he's been trying to build.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: It's like when you're dealing with that for the next

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00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, seventy lesson learned. But you know what, I

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00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: regret nothing. There you go, that's how that's how you

847
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: look at it. Let's take a break and we'll move on.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. So we moved to Sunday now,

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00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: and uh, Mark, you had you had a sandwich prop

850
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: earlier this season that the fastest game ever would be played.

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00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was the longest playoff game

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00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: ever today that was a regulation game, but it had

853
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: to be close. Dolphins Bills. It felt like it was

854
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: going to be a blowout, but it turned into anything

855
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: but Alan letting go down to two. Now one takes

856
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: the snap, hands it off the single tarry over the

857
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: block of his left tackle tackle. He moves the pile

858
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: toward the thirty five out toward the first marker. He

859
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: they have gotten it. How about that? That'll be the

860
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: ball game? They sick all first, you know, and then

861
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Bills can go to victory formation. Wow, that's hard to believe.

862
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: How about the effort by Devin single turn and the

863
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: old lineman pushing him. I don't know if we need

864
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: that when we have our end of season meeting justin

865
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: or like, how do we make the show better? Because

866
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: it's the right call? Could it be? Is it possible

867
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: it could? I think we made the right pick, Like

868
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: what is the highlight for the game, Like, oh, that's

869
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: the clinching first down. But I'm finding all season whenever

870
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: we get the clinching first down, Yeah, it just doesn't

871
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: have the che I think the fourth down stop, I

872
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: don't know how that calls the driveway check and it

873
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: was about the same, if not a little worse. Maybe

874
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's a lesson. Maybe just go with

875
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: the great gave Davis Josh Allen touch that who cares

876
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: that it was in the third grad. It was a touchdown.

877
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: It was when we break bread after the season. These

878
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: are the things we'll discuss respectfully. We'll get it right

879
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: heading into year eleven or twelve or whatever it. Devin

880
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: Singletary seven yard run for first down was the play

881
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: that the Bills desperately needed to survive against Skyler Thompson

882
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: and the Miami Dolphins. The final score Bills thirty four,

883
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins thirty one. UM, so they advance Josh Allen despite

884
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: three more turnovers. Um. He said it after the game

885
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: one week seasons, man, that's it. All that matters is

886
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: surviving and advancing. Doesn't matter how we win, it's if

887
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: we win. And Greg they did win, but it wasn't

888
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: supposed to go like that, go like this, even though

889
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: they were up seventeen sip. No. They will be happy

890
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: to move on from the Miami portion of the season.

891
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: All three of these games were funky. I know to

892
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: have played the other two games and and the Dolphins

893
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: often certainly looked better in those games, but this was

894
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: a game where I think Josh Allen and the Bills

895
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: offense were really the problem. Even though they got four

896
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: twenty three yards in this game, Allen was a roller coaster.

897
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: They were daring him to throw the ball down the

898
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: field all game, and he obliged and sometimes it worked.

899
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: That touchdown throw the Digs early was just an incredible throw.

900
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: No one else can throw. The touchdown to game Davis

901
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: was an incredible throw when he absolutely needed a first

902
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: down on third and six in the red zone and

903
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: they were trailing, trailing in this game. To the Dolphins,

904
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: they call the quarterback around, he picks it up, it

905
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: hits Beasley for a touchdown. Like there were good things,

906
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: but he had two interceptions and three fumbles and it

907
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: was kind of all over the place and they were

908
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: stopped in a number of occasions where they could have

909
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: put the game away. It was not what you expect

910
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: that of the Bill's offense. I think if we go

911
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: back for a second to like the Seahawks game, it's like,

912
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: this is what Seattle's defense, if you were the Dolphins

913
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: needed to do against the Niners to create the chance

914
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: to a doorway to win. Because the first interception leads

915
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: to a field goal, the second one, which really bounced

916
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: off Cole Beasley, led to a touchdown, and then you

917
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: have a strip sack fumble touchdown like points are coming

918
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: from a Dolphins defense that I kind of think and

919
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: I thought Romokes explained it well. It was like, we

920
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: just want to put Josh Allen into chaos. We know

921
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna make big plays out of it, but he's

922
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: gonna make what we've seen up late and earlier in

923
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: his career Josh Allen esque turnovers, and they've been coming

924
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: in bunches, so they're not all on him like any

925
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: interception we see. But but he's lucky they didn't lose

926
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: those last two fumbles he had. Basically, I mean, this

927
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: thing was close, though I don't I like, you know,

928
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: we were in the middle of the fourth quarter. I

929
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: know that the Dolphins got a touch on at one

930
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: point on office, just like the Bill's defense played a

931
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: pretty crazily amazing game against I thought they should have

932
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: against this team. I think it goes back to the

933
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: fact that Monster Raheem Monster was not in this game

934
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: the way he ran on Buffalo last time. They had

935
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: no ground game, and if in the situation they were in,

936
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: if they could have sustained some drives and kept Buffalo

937
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: off the field a few more times and just had

938
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: some way to move the ball more they had like

939
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: their drives went for like less than fifteen yards. I mean,

940
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson was largely a disaster until he made a

941
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: couple throws late. I mean this was Buffalo's defense did

942
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: its job. It's just that it was a truly funky game,

943
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: and I look at it. I kind have agree with

944
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in this one. It doesn't make me totally

945
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: think differently about Buffalo. They're operating. It seems like about

946
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: seventy of their power. But this felt like a weird

947
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: odyssey with no major larger purpose to me because they

948
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: did escape. Um all right, So a lot to unpack there.

949
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: So Skylert Thompson I thought he was. He was eighteen

950
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: and forty five for two twenty a touch on two interceptions.

951
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: I thought he was actually better than that. I think

952
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: they had some drops a wattle early on him game.

953
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: He had another bottle is in jury's banged up. Um.

954
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: But uh, I thought Thompson actually considered considering what we

955
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: had seen to him this to this point. It quitted

956
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: himself fairly well. Now that said, they had two thirty

957
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: one yards of offense, fourteen drives, They had sixteen first

958
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: downs and fourteen drives. So the Bill's defense did what

959
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: they were supposed to do, and I guess I disagree

960
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. I'm concerned about the Bills a little

961
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: bit because his mentality is going to be different than ours.

962
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Our job is sure out of it. I'm just I'm

963
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: concerned about the Bill is just because, like I don't

964
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: think they look good against the Patriots in Week eighteen,

965
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: they hem hims kind of bailed them out with those

966
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: two big kicker off returns. I thought you saw breakdowns

967
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: and past protection. Uh, the offensive line struggled to this game,

968
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: breakdowns and special teams. You saw more bad decision making

969
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: by your star quarterback. You saw big drops by Buffalo

970
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: as well. And that's the only reason this game was close,

971
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: not because Miami played well. To me, it was because

972
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: the Bills just were sloppy and playing at s. You'll

973
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: beat Skywitt Thompson's Dolphins at home, you will get your

974
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: doors blown off next week. Who do they have next week?

975
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Gets Cincinnati? And I know Cincinnati wasn't perfect on on

976
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: Sunday either, but you need to be much sharper. This

977
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: is your year, Buffalo, Like this is it? The window

978
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: is not infinite. You need to start playing better or else.

979
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't assume it's the year, that's all. I just

980
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: will say that on night. I know we even saying

981
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: that forever. And it's just like queuing them up is

982
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: the best team around and like they just Josh Allen

983
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: does amazing things and you can forgive us miss stakes,

984
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: but its mistakes are plentiful right now when like it's

985
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: a fair point, Like we think of the Bills one way,

986
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: and they used to have Micah Hyde and Von Miller

987
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: was really important players and not everyone's got injuries right now,

988
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. I guess since we've seen

989
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: the Bills team that we imagine them to be. Right.

990
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: That week's seventeen game that disappeared because of the Demorrow

991
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Hamlet situation would have been a really good litmus test.

992
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: And we never saw how that they had that Bears

993
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: game where they ended up winning easy, but even that

994
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: game was messy. They were trailing, The Dolphins game was Nippentuck.

995
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: They had the like the Jets game where the Jets

996
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: actually like out gained them the dollars, the Lions game

997
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, Like they are a team that is battling

998
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: to win, and I think if they win this Super Bowl,

999
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: if they keep winning these games, it's not gonna look pretty.

1000
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be with Alan being superhuman. I'm

1001
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: a little concerned about their offensive line in general. They

1002
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: had some pretty good blitz pickups early, but as the

1003
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: game went on, they lost more and more consistently up front,

1004
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: and then on the Dolphins side, they they they have

1005
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: some regrets after this game as well, because they did

1006
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: not play as sharp as they needed to play. This

1007
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: was especially apparent with a number of either delay of

1008
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: game UH penalties or having to burn time outs, which

1009
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: really burned them late three times, all three timeouts because

1010
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: of the inability to get calls in from the sideline.

1011
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: And you don't know what the issue is now. There

1012
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: was one specific play with the game essentially on the line.

1013
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: They were facing fourth and one from their own forty

1014
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: eight yard line with two to play again and they

1015
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: didn't have their time outs at this point, so this

1016
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: was do or die. They failed to get a playoff

1017
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: in time, they got flagged for delay of game UH.

1018
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: The penalty pushed them back to fourth and six, and

1019
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: then they could not complete the pass. UH. Here's what

1020
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: McDaniel said about that play afterwards, citing a communication gaff

1021
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: at the biggest stage of the season. It was communicating

1022
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: to me through the um upstairs, you know, from from

1023
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: the head said I think, Um, I was standing by

1024
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: an official. Uh. I had just had gotten convicted information

1025
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: that it was a first down. UM, so I don't

1026
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: really know exactly who it was from. It was probably

1027
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: the first time all year that that had happened. So, um,

1028
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, you you try to do your best. As

1029
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: it was, I thought we had a fourth and sixth

1030
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: opportunity that we're unable to come up with as well. So, um,

1031
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: fourth and one most of the time is easier than

1032
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: fourth and six. But at the same time, uh, you know,

1033
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: you just have to adjust to whatever variables put out there.

1034
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: That wasn't a great look all the way around the

1035
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: entire operation and the presser. In my opinion, well, I

1036
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, that's a total breakdown and

1037
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to see that happen. But from a

1038
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of a global viewpoint on

1039
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: on what McDaniel went through with this team, I mean,

1040
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: you're dealing with Skyler Thompson, who essentially was a preseason

1041
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: layer and yeah, things are getting funky in these key situations.

1042
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: If that happened to if he got the wrong information,

1043
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: that's you said, it's the first time all season. That's

1044
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: how I explain all the other Francisco it doesn't. But

1045
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: I would just say that Mike McDaniel, like the fact

1046
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: that you know he was like, oh, well, Mike McDaniel

1047
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: at some point being replaced if they want Sean Payton

1048
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: or fill in the blank coach. I agree, but I

1049
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: think like McDaniel on his own proved that he fought

1050
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: through incredible adversity. I mean, three times they played Buffalo,

1051
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: they beat them once. The night game a couple of

1052
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: months ago, was they were saucy, They hung in there

1053
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: and showed something the very few Dolphins teams we've ever

1054
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: covered showed. And then today when no one gave them

1055
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: a chance rightfully based on who was starting a quarterback

1056
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: and who was out and you got this right, I

1057
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: totally agree that, like in the moment, that shortcoming was

1058
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: very frustrating because it was throughout the second half, and

1059
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Skoylie Thompson probably deserves some of the blame, but it

1060
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: feels like it's more on the coaching that it was

1061
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: just take everything was taking too long. But I was

1062
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: taken by his quarter or post halftime interview. You know,

1063
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: he was so confident, like in Moromo and Nance said

1064
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: that too, that he they really thought they were going

1065
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: to go in there and win this game, and they

1066
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: were really close to doing it, and they did get

1067
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: to the playoffs in the end. I know they fell

1068
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: down the stretch, but we know he can scheme up offense.

1069
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm with you. I think you have to

1070
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: at least give him some credit for them believing like he.

1071
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: I think he's doing a better job at the sort

1072
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: of global coaching and I think having like his team

1073
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: believe in him and the coaches and everything like that,

1074
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: than I expect that he's not just like a scheme.

1075
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Like there was one team that Romo talked about getting

1076
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: it was sort of like weird vibes, jitters and kind

1077
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: of on edge, and it was the Bills. It wasn't

1078
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. And I get it the stakes are different

1079
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: for Buffalo than Miami and theory, but like, yeah, there

1080
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 1: was I mean Miami was in that enviable position of

1081
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: no one's given us a chance, and you you see,

1082
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: you sense that McDaniel is an interesting guy still to me,

1083
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get into all this down the road.

1084
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: But um, his offense was brilliant for half the year,

1085
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: the other half not so much. There's quarterback issues, we

1086
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: we It was reported today that planned the team plans

1087
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: to have to a back uh next season. Hopefully health

1088
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: will allow that to happen for Tah and the head

1089
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: injuries he suffered. Um, but you know, McDaniels brought in

1090
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: viewed as a offensive visionary. You gotta put it all

1091
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: together and you're gonna maybe get some better luck. Of

1092
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: course the quarterback health. We'll see. Miami is an interesting

1093
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: team next year. Right now, their season is over and

1094
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad in the end of Bills. You get it

1095
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: done with the state the Miami Dolphins around for another way,

1096
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: I did lock up the Bills and it got a

1097
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: little I was never like the way McDaniels was confident.

1098
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I remained confident throughout the game it was gonna be

1099
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: all right. It was at one point when they fell

1100
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: behind in the in the second half and then the

1101
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: Bills have like a three and out and they're punt like,

1102
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you guys? Doing like it

1103
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: would have been a catastrophe for Buffalo to go one

1104
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: and done in this situation. You know, I thought the

1105
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo could probably even like midway through third Corm, I think,

1106
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: still win this game. It was a bad weekend for

1107
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: the games. Over people on Twitter in general, it's always

1108
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: it's the same thing as Justin's tweet, Like this game

1109
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: actually had two of them. Everyone said the game was

1110
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: over at seventeen nothing we should mention it was seventeen

1111
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: nothing that you know, early the second ward, and then

1112
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: everyone said it was over again at thirty four, uh

1113
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: late in the third. And yet there they were at

1114
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: midfield down three with two minutes and they go They

1115
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: were about fifteen yards away from tying that game up.

1116
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I have one favorite team, as everyone knows,

1117
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: but I really do like this Bill's team, especially after

1118
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: the adversity that they've gone through in recent weeks. I

1119
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: want to see them get to the super Bowl. So

1120
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy that they moved on, and I I really

1121
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: I implore them listen up, guys. We gotta go up

1122
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: from seventy five to about ninety. We gotta get over

1123
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: the ninety threshold to to make this thing get to

1124
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Um, and it starts with Josh Allen

1125
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: be in the playoff Josh Allen from a year ago, like,

1126
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: we're not getting and expectations are high. Anything less than

1127
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is failure for this Bill's team. Whether

1128
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: that feels fair or not. But that's the that's the

1129
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: bar they set after last year's playoffs. So we'll see

1130
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: what happens against Cincinnati. Oh boy, all right, let's move

1131
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: on to the next game on the schedule to US

1132
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. Nailed. It takes the snout, he's back to throw,

1133
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: he's on the pressure, got hers the Crows completely to

1134
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: his right, but he's short of the first datas Hackinson,

1135
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: he's wrapped up. I want to play by the Giants.

1136
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: They threw a short to Hawkinson and the Giants railing

1137
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: with the ball and say makes the play of the

1138
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: ball game. Wow, Giants are grants? That great? Oh it's

1139
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: a Bruges here, what marks it can be bolds people

1140
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: don't understand, can be bold. You don't understand it if

1141
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you're not from there. Bo Papa with the call w

1142
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: f N. That's the great Carl Banks, great player. Oh yeah,

1143
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: Parcel's favorite. The new York Giants, legimon get a three

1144
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: yard passing day from Daniel Jones on the ground too,

1145
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: and just great big plays on both sides of the

1146
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: ball in a victory over the Minnesota Vikings. Uh. And

1147
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I god, there's so much to get to with Minnesota,

1148
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: including Kirk's check down past there with the season on

1149
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: the line. Um, but let this be known that the

1150
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and this is only the Vikings, and this

1151
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: it felt like it was gonna happen. It felt like

1152
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: it was like setting in the stars that they would

1153
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: set an NFL record by going eleven and oh in

1154
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: one score games. And then the calendar turned to the

1155
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: playoffs and they lose a one score game in the

1156
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: wild card round, and that is very on brand for

1157
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and the fan base knows it all too well.

1158
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: But the Giants marks the g men. They stepped up

1159
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 1: and and really I thought played a beautiful game here

1160
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: and they're advancing to face the Eagles. Yeah. I think

1161
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: the Giants were the other team in the NFC that

1162
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're largely viewed as fraudulent to some degree,

1163
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: not up to the record all year long, but they

1164
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: were really well coached and I think that what we're

1165
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: seeing is that Brian Dabile does and has had an

1166
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: effect on Daniel Jones, who played the game of his life,

1167
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: and we were getting here in bits and pieces with

1168
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think we saw it the last time

1169
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: he played Minnesota, that they basically put it in his

1170
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: hands and said, we're gonna throw the ball. It's not

1171
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna be one of these and twenty four passing yard

1172
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: days and we're gonna have you run the ball to

1173
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: You could do both, but he did it there, he

1174
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: did it again. I thought they took great advantage of

1175
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 1: a terrible defense. So I do feel for Vikings fans

1176
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: who got to this point watching this defense just utterly collapse.

1177
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Early on, the Giants out of the gate had seven

1178
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: plays of ten plus yards on the first two drives.

1179
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was all over the place in a beautiful way,

1180
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: hitting everyone. You've got guys that people didn't even believe

1181
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: in a month ago making big plays for New York's guys.

1182
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: Are niners open. By the way, too, that the defense

1183
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: was so poor and the scheme for the Giants so

1184
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: effective that Jones was just like it was. He was

1185
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: and you know they have talked about and I you know,

1186
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes with j Jones. They want

1187
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: him back to We've got that reporting has been out

1188
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: there for weeks that they ran a more typical pro

1189
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: passing game where it wasn't just rollouts for Daniel Jones

1190
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: and trying to kind of protect him from stuff he

1191
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: couldn't do that. He's grown in this system and they're

1192
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: having him do more and more. And I know this

1193
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: is the Vikings and it's a bit of an equalizer

1194
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: because they're a mess on on in their secondary and

1195
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: against the past. But Daniel Jones today like the way

1196
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: you get that version of Daniel Jones and the Giants

1197
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: are a dangerous team. I I mean, they maybe go

1198
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: out next week and we'll see you later, but this

1199
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: is a major organizational win for everyone involved. They looked

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: really well coached. They came in totally confident. You got

1201
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: with you know, they had a huge amount of yardage

1202
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't all coming from se Kwon Barkley was

1203
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: coming from other places, which tells me that this offense

1204
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: has grown. I don't care if this game was against

1205
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: the Arkansas State red Wolves, like, yeah, that would be weird.

1206
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: He went over three yards with two passing touchdowns in

1207
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: over seven yards rushing. He's actually the first player in

1208
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: NFL history to combine those stats in a playoff game

1209
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: like that was a that was a Pete cam Newton game.

1210
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: That was who I was thinking of, because yes, they

1211
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't call a crazy amount of design runs, but they

1212
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: did it, and he scrambled a ton. He was scrambling early.

1213
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: He had over sixty rushing yards midway through the second quarter.

1214
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: Then it calmed down and it was him with his

1215
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: legs of the first guy wasn't open. It was him

1216
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: throwing absolute darts on a couple of third and long

1217
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: plays where he was very decisive. The velocity was there.

1218
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: They had the best players and they had the best coaches.

1219
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Like they won this game because day Bole had guts

1220
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: on fourth down back to back times in the fourth quarter.

1221
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: It was a tie game when he went for a

1222
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: fourth uh in one in the fourth quarter before the

1223
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown, and I think it was an obvious

1224
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: call at this point in the NFL because it was

1225
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: like less than a yard, but it wasn't that long

1226
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: ago that would have seemed controversial. Then he went for

1227
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: again fourth in short on his own end in the

1228
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: Giants last drive, and that ended up helping the Vike

1229
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: The them burned the Vikings last couple of time outs,

1230
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: waste some more time, and it would have ended the

1231
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: game if Darius Slayton hadn't dropped a wide open catch. Uh,

1232
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: they would have ended the game with the ball. Instead,

1233
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: they had to count on the defense to finish it off.

1234
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: But man, that's table I think really out coaching Minnesota's

1235
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, who Kevin O'Connell made no promises about at

1236
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: Dontel after the game. I thought that was telling. I mean, yeah, no,

1237
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: the opponent and credit Dable and the Giants, and they

1238
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: saw these guys in Christmas Eve and they lit him

1239
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: up on Christmas Eve. Also, um, of course, I mean yeah,

1240
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: you always attack the Vikings on defense, and the Vikings

1241
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: are one of the strangest teams in recent NFL history,

1242
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: and the fact that they went thirteen and four, but

1243
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: we're you know, relentlessly criticized in many places, including on

1244
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: this podcast, as punching above their weight. And this is

1245
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: exactly kind of what I expected, and many of us expected.

1246
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: It would be a go down to the last possession.

1247
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Vikings would steal it and find another

1248
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: way to do it. But I knew these teams are

1249
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: even and that's exactly what this game was. I mean,

1250
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: I think the Giants. The Giants are gonna be in

1251
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: a good position next week's against the Eagles because they're

1252
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of confidence and Greggy I know

1253
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: that the Giants are a team that you struggle with

1254
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: um based on history, but this is kind of an

1255
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: easy team to root for in the NFC. Person picked

1256
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: the Giants in this room this week and it was

1257
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: your boy, I'm the real Giants fan the game that

1258
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: said the Saints were better than the Giants on the

1259
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: previous show two weeks ago. Say this one person this

1260
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: week and it was me, And those are the facts

1261
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I had Gant, I had, I had him. No, I

1262
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: don't believed that this team. I believe you said the

1263
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: Saints were a better team than the Giants. I really do.

1264
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: And I said this on the show the last few weeks.

1265
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: Think that they've been a different tea in the last

1266
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: four or five weeks. I thought they they were lucky

1267
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: to have the record that they had throughout most of

1268
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: the season, and if they look better on both sides

1269
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: of the all you said it Mark with with the

1270
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: way the offense is working. Those receivers are established and

1271
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: they are really talented. Like there's this idea that they're

1272
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: not a talented team. I mean they have an all

1273
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: Pro left tackle Daniel Jones is certainly talented. Sae Quon

1274
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Speaker 1: they used him great today fourteen for one on nine

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01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: and then you look at their defensive line. Dexter Lawrence

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01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: was the best player in this game. He dominated His

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Speaker 1: matchup was in Kirk Cousins lap all game long. Cavon

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Speaker 1: Thibodeau had a great game. You have Leonard Williams there.

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Speaker 1: They had a Dory Jackson back there. They have good coaches,

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Speaker 1: like they're talented with good coaches out. I'm Dexter Lawrence

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01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: because this happens. It seems to happen like once week,

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Speaker 1: the roughing the passer calling Dexter Lawrence, do you remember

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01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: this from like late in the game where they basically

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: like the crew was like, I'm not sure what else

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01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: we can ask them to do other than slowly quietly

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01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: think because I don't think because he hit the helmet.

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: It was but it was so like some of these

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: that was disgraceful. And you know it's bad when they

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Speaker 1: have to go to, uh, who's the Fox guy officiating

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01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 1: dude and Pereira and you know how all these guys

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01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: are very They tiptoe around this stuff because that's there's

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Speaker 1: part of a fraternity, even if they're no longer actively involved.

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: And when the when you whenever, they throw it to

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Speaker 1: the booth guy or the studio guy and he has

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Speaker 1: no choice but to say, I don't know what they

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Speaker 1: were seeing on this one. It was like the lancing

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Speaker 1: blow across the faceback. I think it's with the officiating.

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: It's another example that we talked about. The stakes are

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: higher in the playoffs and players sometimes choke under pressure.

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: I think officiate officials see him in the same light.

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Speaker 1: And again, I'm gonna how the damn table on this?

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01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: You can We have this technology now that allows you

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01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: to quickly rectify drops or catches and reverse things without

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: going to break and without slowing the pace. Why not

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: have New York doing the same thing with these potential

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01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: game changing plays. After the Slaton drop, which broke my

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01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: heart for Daniel Jones because he played so great and

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: the games should have been over there, and then that

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: roughing the passer call, which gave the Vikings the ball

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Speaker 1: near midfield. At that point, I was a pent in

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Speaker 1: the bag for the Giants because like they deserve to

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01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: win this game. And okay, I'll let you over with

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: the Giants at that point with all right, and I'll

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01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: understand that the Saints are better. Um the but let's

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01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: let's now talk about that play. Let's talk about it.

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Fourth down. It's fourth down and

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Speaker 1: I believe eight for the Vikings near midfield and Kirk

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01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: Cousins drops back, Uh, checks it down to Tyler Um

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: the t J. Hockenson, who had another big game. Um,

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: he tries to shake free, he gets to Well, it's

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: a great tackle that was made. I want to give

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: the Giants mckennyh McKinney made the great tackle. Here's Kirk Cousins.

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 1: After the game. A lot of people are wondering, how

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: is he throwing short of the sticks in that spot?

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01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Where is Justin Jefferson. Here's what Kirk Cousins had to say,

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: try to work Justin. Didn't feel good about putting up

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Speaker 1: to Justin. And then when I went to progress, I

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01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: just felt like I was about to get sacked, and

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01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: I felt like, I gotta put the ball in play,

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: and if I take, you know, I can't go down

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Speaker 1: with the sacks. So I just kick it out to

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Speaker 1: uh t J. And I had thrown short of the

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Speaker 1: sticks on a few occasions in the game and even

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Speaker 1: going back a few weeks, and just felt like, you know,

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: just throwing a short of the sticks isn't the end

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01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: of the world. It's just um, you know, it's obviously

1337
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 1: tight coverage, so I didn't have the chance to pull away,

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: but I just feelt I was gonna go down and

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01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: take a sack if I didn't put it out. It's

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of amazing this season for the Vikings, everything seemed

1341
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,479
Speaker 1: to go their way, and even the way he said

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: that Cousins is, you know, I throwing short of the

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: sticks a lot, and you know, even recent weeks it

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: would work, and in this case it did not work,

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: And and it just happened to be the last play

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01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: of the season for the Vikings on offense. I guess

1347
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: it's very easy for someone to say in a podcast studio,

1348
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: just throw to Justin Jefferson, But Jefferson is a generationally

1349
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: great talent, and you could either get a catch out

1350
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: of it, you could draw a penalty. We already know

1351
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: those officials were flag happy after what we saw a

1352
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: couple of plays earlier. It's just I understand the Vikings

1353
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: fans that are livid that their quarterback who's known for

1354
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: coming up small in a big spot, made that play. Yeah,

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a bad look because we're accustomed

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: to just automatically critiquing that. I kind of liked his explanation.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I'd say is, like, and T. J.

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01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: Hockinson was awesome today, But um, I would say that, like,

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: why not if it's your last gasp, your last chance,

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01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: give it to the guy that basically got you here,

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: which is Justin Jefferson, the Jefferson Cousins connection. If it's

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01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: if it's against all odds, no one's ever going to

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: kill you for firing. It's Justin Jefferson that said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here, we don't play quarterback. I don't know

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Speaker 1: they saw what we didn't say, right. They bracketed Jefferson

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01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: all game. He only had forty seven yards on nine targets,

1367
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: his longest defense. And my answer for like why he

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: didn't do this, because like he did break out of

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: that somewhat this year where he would just give Jefferson

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: a chance to make a play, and so maybe you're right.

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: I think he was the first read on the play

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: and that they had a lot of defenders back there.

1373
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: But Cousins is so unlike most of the quarterbacks in

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01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: this league because he can't escape, and you saw today.

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01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: I think Cousins played a really good game until the end. Basically,

1376
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: I think I think he played well. He was getting

1377
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: hit almost every other snap, and he was hanging in

1378
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: there and his superpowers. He's been good at holding to

1379
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 1: the last second and then getting it to his and

1380
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: in this case, yeah, I guess he was hoping Hawkinson

1381
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: would break a tackle. At that point. It was Dexter

1382
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: Lawrence again who was gonna go get that sack, and

1383
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: he was right. He he hit Lawrence on the follow through,

1384
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: and either way, I think that play was just gonna

1385
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: be won by the defense no matter what, Cousins. You

1386
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: can't come out of this game just hating on Kirk

1387
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Cousins because I totally agree with you. I thought that,

1388
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: like in a Ryan Tannehill last type of way, he

1389
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: threw some shots down field where he was absolutely brutalized

1390
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: after the throw. Uh that would be um. Long time

1391
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: listeners know a lot of Ravil macnetco. Anybody talking about

1392
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: this game, and everyone just says the lost cos Kirk

1393
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: Cousins joked, No, the Vikings lost because their defense, which

1394
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: was terrible all year, once again, Um it was bad

1395
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: again and this time the offense wasn't able to bail

1396
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: them out. Let's give the last word though, to Brian Dable,

1397
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: who was asked by a reporter why he seemed to

1398
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: almost be understating how well his quarterback played in his

1399
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: first playoff game, isn't good and good adjective? Yeah, it's good.

1400
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a writer, I'm just a coach. So um, look, Daniels,

1401
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: I've said it all year. He's been a good for

1402
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: us and continues to be good for us. And he

1403
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: played a good game. And I think there's a lot

1404
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: of other people that played good games too to help

1405
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: him play a good game. He'll be the first to

1406
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: admit it. But as leader of our football team, um,

1407
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm proud of him. I thought he played

1408
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: a great game. He did, but table like, who's talking

1409
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones more and helping Daniel Jones grow more

1410
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: than Brian Table. It's like it was understated though, because

1411
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: I think that this this the reason we're all in agreement.

1412
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: Greg has finally come around on the Giants. Well, welcome aboard, Greg.

1413
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean you picked the fraudile and vikings over there,

1414
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: give me a break. Um, the reason why we all

1415
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: feel that they're frisky now, I think in large, First

1416
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: of all, it should be said real quick, Sae Kwon Barkley.

1417
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: If Dexter Lawrence is the best player in the field,

1418
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: San was the second best player on the field. He

1419
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: was explosive, powerful. He is such a badass, that dude.

1420
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,560
Speaker 1: And now he's healthy again. But Jones lifting his play

1421
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: has made the Giant just a different team and they

1422
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: they're interesting now. That's that's something. It makes you think

1423
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: of his entire career differently. I mean, he wasn't this

1424
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: guy before. But like it was interesting to hear like

1425
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett in the studio, Um, it was what was

1426
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: interesting about I guess what I found interesting. That's a

1427
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: fair point. But like praising and Daniel Jones, like I

1428
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: love you Daniel great, it's like you're a part of

1429
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: the reason. Like I'm not just to kill Jason Garrett.

1430
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: But the coach and that that Daniel Jones has gotten

1431
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: was very different than this year. Brian Table is a

1432
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: difference maker with quarterbacks. All right, let's take a break.

1433
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: We got one more game to get to. Oh the

1434
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Zoo coming up next. Greg just shared with me

1435
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: welcome back, some ratings information about the program, and the

1436
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: only response that came to my mind was what boom

1437
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: chakalaka back? Feeling good? Let's head the final game of

1438
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: the weekend to Cincinnati where the defending a f C

1439
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: champions they were. They had a fight on their hands.

1440
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's a tough division. That nor from

1441
01:12:54,760 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: the one they're running it back. He's a big touchdown,

1442
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: amazing goals. Tyler Huntley trying to extend the ball over

1443
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: the goal line, it got poked away. Sam Hubbard scooped

1444
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: it up and ran the length of the field for

1445
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: a go ahead Bengals touchdown. Dangles fans, these are the

1446
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: Glory Days, special moments. Dan Horde Dave Lapping with the

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01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: called w c K, w are you kidding me? Sam

1448
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: Hubbard returned Tyler Huntley's goal line fumbled ninety eight yards

1449
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: for a tiebreaking touchdown in the fourth quarter, and it

1450
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: helped Joe Burrow and the Bengals survive a major scare

1451
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: from the Ravens and backup quarterback Huntley seventeen win for

1452
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and they advanced. Yes to meet the Bills, right,

1453
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: the Bills Buffalo next week? About that, so they will

1454
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: play once again. We'll go through the whole schedule at

1455
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the very end of the show. But anyway, um, CBS

1456
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: not just kidding. I don't want me to share anyone

1457
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: about that. You see, people are like I was ready

1458
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: to tune out, but he just said he's revealing the

1459
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: schedule at the end of the show. People are stuck now,

1460
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: they're trapped. They need it. There's no other way to

1461
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: get it. Facing third and goal at the one with

1462
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: about twelve minutes left, yes, Huntley try to go over

1463
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: the top of the line for that go ahead score,

1464
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: but Jermaine Pratt and he got stood up by Jermaine

1465
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: Pratt and Logan Wilson poked that ball away mark one

1466
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: of the biggest plays of the year. Yeah, and Logan Wilson,

1467
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, we were watching this together at this point

1468
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: in the viewing room, and Logan Wilson had a big

1469
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: stop on Huntley earlier in the game as well. But

1470
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: I had my problem with this was that, like we

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: live in a world where I have no problem with

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allan doing that, attempting that play. Um, I have

1473
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: no Allen, we have no problem with like you know,

1474
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 1: people doing like the double butt push on Jalen Hurts

1475
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: to convert Trevor Lawrence had that six ft six and

1476
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: like Huntley is doing the best you can. Huntley is

1477
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: six ft one, And like the ball wasn't at the

1478
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: one yard line. It was like there was like it

1479
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: was like this was not the play call it would

1480
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: have gone with here. I think let's hear what Joe

1481
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: Burrow thought about the play of the game going through

1482
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: your mind during that Sam Hubard run faster, Sam, go

1483
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: get there. He actually did look pretty fast. Surprisingly this

1484
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: from the next gen stats. That's great. Sam Hubbard reached

1485
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: the top speed of what do you think it was? Well,

1486
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: I do know. You told me everyone runs to no no,

1487
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: it was three grave give me the bio heightened weight

1488
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 1: of Sam Hubbard. The third fastest speed by a defensive

1489
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: lineman as a ball carrier this season. Mark andrews Hot

1490
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: on his tail, reached the fastest speed of his career,

1491
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: chasing down Hubbard twenty point seven two tight end, but

1492
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: could not make the tackle. Uh, the athletes, they're good.

1493
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: He was trying to do that Leon Lett thing. He

1494
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: could couldn't play six five. To imagine a man of

1495
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: that size running almost eighteen that is ridiculous. And the

1496
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: fact that you like sometimes a game does come down

1497
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: to one play because the Ravens and I'll play the

1498
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: Bengals other than that one play. And for a kid

1499
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: from Archbishop Bohler, as our friends spice Rack points out

1500
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: to me, a local Cincinnati kid. When this play happened,

1501
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: I heard a lot about the local Cincinnati high school

1502
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: dominance of athletics, of which Sam Hubbard and apparently spice

1503
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: Rack in the Wesleyan Brothers were apart. And for like

1504
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: a local kid to make that play that will be

1505
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: remembered forever, and just get out of here and get

1506
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: rid of the Ravens. They don't want to see this

1507
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: team anymore. The Ravens in the last two weeks held

1508
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati under five d total yards. And when I say

1509
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: they don't want to see the Ravens, I mean the

1510
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Ravens defense. The Bengals average four point one yards for

1511
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: play over the last two weeks. They didn't top two

1512
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards in either game. They were physical,

1513
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: they really shut down Joe Burrow and when you lost

1514
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams, their left tackle during this game, at that point,

1515
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense didn't do a lot more. And that's

1516
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: concerning that is this is really what Wesley and Chris

1517
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: Wesley would have called a pyric victory, because you know,

1518
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: Jay Morrison of the Athletics said that not much celebrating

1519
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: as they walk into the locker room. The Bengals a

1520
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of headshakes and exhales, like you one, you got

1521
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: out of here, but you have three of your offensive

1522
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 1: starting lineman um not available tois this week. They were

1523
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: doing the cigar thing last week. I thought that Burrow

1524
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: was certainly affected by the line issue because there was

1525
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of him having to run around and try

1526
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: to escape pressure. It's like, all right, you did that

1527
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: last year, but to do that two years in a row.

1528
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: If this is the state of their line, and it is,

1529
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: you gotta problem. It's also different, like Cincinnati is in

1530
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: a different place than they were last year when they

1531
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: were Destiny's Darling and nobody was expecting anything, you know,

1532
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: like Buffalo, they're expected to if they don't go to

1533
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Uh, it's a bus this season and

1534
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: and this game, I think they were surprised because I

1535
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: think they knew obviously it's a division matchup, and and

1536
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: Baltimore did play them tough um last week. But I

1537
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: think you know, at least I know you had a

1538
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: different viewpoint on this Gray going into this game, and

1539
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: you turned out to be right on this, which was

1540
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: they had the Baltimore Ravens were ready for them, and

1541
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: they really did stunt what Cincinnati was trying to do

1542
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,879
Speaker 1: on offense. And then you factor in, yes, the offensive

1543
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: line issues and this is an issue. Paul Denner, who

1544
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: covers the Bengals, appointed this out on Twitter. They want

1545
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: the first fifteen weeks of the season Cincinnati without having

1546
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: any offensive line injury, a major injury. In the last

1547
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: three games. They lose their right tackle I all counts

1548
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: to an a c l A right guard Al Capita

1549
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: to an ankle, and now left called Jonah williams Uh

1550
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: to a knee. And we'll see how serious that is.

1551
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: It is the type of thing, Greg, where you you

1552
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: really because I really like Cincinnati to UM for a

1553
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: lot of different reasons. Um, you wonder if this is

1554
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: going to be the thing that does them in as

1555
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: the competition jump. So you hate it because you spend

1556
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: all season, you spent all offseason talking about these teams,

1557
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: and then you get to this point and they're just

1558
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: not those teams anymore. That's how you get Skyler Thompson

1559
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: starting a game for a promising offensive and now this

1560
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: Bengals team that had such great continuity, I think you

1561
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: said it that they had the same group. They were

1562
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: the only team that didn't have uh those injuries. Now, look,

1563
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: they only had three drives after that touchdown drive where

1564
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was magnificent, they did have three long scoring drives.

1565
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 1: It was a game where Baltimore kind of played the

1566
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: underdog UM playbook perfectly. They limited possessions they made, they

1567
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: took possessions away and kept the ball. They they did

1568
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: a good job offensively. That was a little worrisome too.

1569
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: I I do think the Bengals offense will have better

1570
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,759
Speaker 1: days and that this is a particularly tough division matchup.

1571
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: Seeing the same team three times in the season yeah.

1572
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, we're gonna get a Bills and

1573
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: Bengals showdown where both of these offenses were kind of like.

1574
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills are at a different situation. I mean,

1575
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: they were super explosive at times. But this is a

1576
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: Ravens issue for me today. This was a team that

1577
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: kind of bottled up Burrow all year long. And I

1578
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's this, it's who they are. But the

1579
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: line issues, to me could be enduring because you're right

1580
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: back where you started from in terms of your offseason building.

1581
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: All the work you did has vanished, and in the

1582
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: line issues are not just protecting Burrow at all. It's

1583
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: the running game, which has been hot and cold all

1584
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: season and they basically gave up on it today. I'm

1585
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: thinking one play where Roquan Smith just stuffed mixing on

1586
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: a second in two and then they didn't even try

1587
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: to run again the next down and it ended up

1588
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: being another three and out. That part's worrisome, But you

1589
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: do still have Higgins and Chase and Burrow like, even

1590
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: though it happens in the first quarters, sometimes the games

1591
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: are one there. He had a couple of great drives

1592
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: early that ended up just being enough I will say,

1593
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: like J. K. Dobbins after the game had some pretty

1594
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 1: strong comments about that Huntley play that we talked about.

1595
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: He was steam that he wasn't out there. He basically said,

1596
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: in quotes, I'm a guy who feels like I'm on

1597
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: the field at all the time. I could help this

1598
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: team win and I wasn't. It's the playoffs. Why am

1599
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: I not out there? Twelve carries? It's the playoffs. He

1600
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: also added, if we would have had Lamar, we would

1601
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: have won two. We'll get to that and just a bit.

1602
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 1: But Dobbins, we were saying the same thing we're watching

1603
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: in the theater Greggy when this all went down. Um

1604
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: the you know when that fumble occurs, Like, why isn't Dobbins,

1605
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: who's been chewing up yards on the ground all day?

1606
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: Why wasn't he getting the ball? He was their best offensive.

1607
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: That's something that's a tough way to go into the

1608
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: off season like that. That came from a Jeff Zerbiac.

1609
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens Athletic reporter other Baltimore gaps.

1610
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: I thought that they did not handle the clockwell on

1611
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: their final possession. And I'll point out specifically some time

1612
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: elements here first and ten at the sad Tyler Huntley

1613
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: passes to Dobbins for eleven yards in a first down

1614
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: that's at one seventeen remaining. Baltimore I believe had two

1615
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: time outs at this point. They don't call a time

1616
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: out and they don't run another play until thirty four

1617
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: seconds on first and ten um and it's an incomplete

1618
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: pass and they then take a holding penalty that kind

1619
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: of knocks them back, and all of a sudden, now

1620
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: they're at the twenty seven with twenty two seconds left,

1621
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: and they have these time outs, but now everything's out

1622
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: of swords. They never used them, and they eventually I

1623
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: know they used at least one, but still they kind

1624
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 1: of I think they cost themselves there. Here's how hardball

1625
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: explained to the time usage or the time out usage

1626
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: or lack there up after the game. I think we

1627
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: played it right. Didn't work out in the sense that

1628
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: after that we did. We had incomplete passes, so you're

1629
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: not gonna have a chance to call them. If you

1630
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: complete the passes, you get the ball back in the

1631
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: red zone, you call the time out. So I think

1632
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: it's you know, from an elementary level, you could say, ah,

1633
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: they should have called the time outs, but we had

1634
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: the timeouts worked out, right. He's telling us that we're

1635
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: operating on an elementary level. He's talking. I think he

1636
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: knows a little more. See what he's saying. But the

1637
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: difference is eph Lamar Jackson's in that game, they get

1638
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: the next snap off. I think, no matter what, even

1639
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: if you didn't want to use the time out there,

1640
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: you want to get the next snap off in less

1641
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: than thirty seconds. I mean not. I mean you can't

1642
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: compare everything. You can't compare anything, Tom Brady. He's getting

1643
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: that thing snapped with thirty seconds left on the clock.

1644
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: That thing is like watching these playoff games with second

1645
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and third string quarterbacks in there and oh wait, oh

1646
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: well it's not operating like a piece of machinery from

1647
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: outer space. Well, I don't know. In fairness, they did

1648
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: like a lot of good things. They had three sixty

1649
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: four yards Remember that third and one call where they

1650
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: just chuck it up deep to Andrews and like, right,

1651
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: they kind of let them be better per play than

1652
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: than the Bengals were, and huntingly other than that play

1653
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: really did a good job. And let's just I want

1654
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: to touch on a couple of Melissa Stark related things

1655
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: here real quick, um, Melissa Stark reports right before kickoff

1656
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson um uh did not travel with the

1657
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: team to the game, which is interesting because he was

1658
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: in Cincinnat did the week before and now he's not

1659
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: at the playoff game and he had also ruled himself

1660
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: out rather than any type of conversation with the team

1661
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: about it. Um. So there's gonna be a lot of

1662
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: question marks about that. And this is more now, this

1663
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: also I think ties into Lamar. Um. Melissa Stark also,

1664
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: and you know, I kinda got on my soapbox about

1665
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: this couple of weeks ago. I am not about the

1666
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: end of first quarter interview with the coach who's in

1667
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: the middle of a war, um, you know in football terms. Uh.

1668
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Here is in full Melissa Stark's conversation with John Harbaugh, who,

1669
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: by the way, is under a lot of stress in

1670
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: the game and with his franchise quarterback potentially just in

1671
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 1: outer space and back in Cincinnati with Raven's head coach

1672
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. And John, you told us your guys were

1673
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: gonna be disciplined. What did you think about that last

1674
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: pedal to Well? I didn't like the last pedal, And

1675
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: so what will you tell your guys? That will be fine.

1676
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: Our guys will be fine. It's gonna be a hard

1677
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: fought game out here. We're gonna play a good games.

1678
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: And Tyler Huntley with that interception, you said we might

1679
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: see Anthony Brown, what will that take. We'll just see

1680
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: how the game goes. Okay, thanks John, big smile, Melissa,

1681
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: don't ask me another question. I think I think he's

1682
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: young six years old, but I think this Lamar situation

1683
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: and will learn more probably in the off season, is

1684
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 1: probably aging him in dog years, and uh this is

1685
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: a tough way end the season. He has an intensity

1686
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: to him just beneath the service. I guess not that

1687
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: far beneath the service. That's like a lot to take it.

1688
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: I've seen that after losses too, sometimes when they're asking

1689
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: him questions and he he would be high on the

1690
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: list along with Belichick of guys you just don't want

1691
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: to ask tough questions. Maybe a mean dad sit under

1692
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: wraps compared to uhither like a good father. But you know,

1693
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: like if you get his temper going, Actually, do you

1694
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: remember remember this this expose on on John Harbor that

1695
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: came out a couple of years where he allowed us

1696
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: to look at his schedule and he did have like,

1697
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: in the course of like each day, like an eight

1698
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: to ten minute period penciled in to speak to his daughters.

1699
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I think it was like but it was like so old.

1700
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: That was like a who article. The headline of that

1701
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: story was a good father Comma me and Dad. I

1702
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: think that's what. By the way, and just uh, I

1703
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: don't want to belabor this, but Greggy, I brought it

1704
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: up to you. Um, you know the thing with Lamar,

1705
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: and we're going to learn more about it, obviously, or

1706
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: maybe we won't, who knows, but we'll see where his

1707
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: future is. And Greggy, I didn't know that you have

1708
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 1: some reporting to share in a moment um. At one

1709
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 1: point during the telecast, and this is where I get

1710
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: a little signals crossed. They remarked that Tyler Huntley's best

1711
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: friend is Lamar Jackson, and Tyler Huntly happens to be

1712
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: playing the biggest game of his life. And then that's

1713
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: when I get I get a little confused. Is it's

1714
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: like if there is an issue with the player and

1715
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: the team over money. I understand, and there's a business

1716
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: side of this but not being on the field that

1717
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: this guy's your best friend and you want your team

1718
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: to be successful, don't you want to be down the

1719
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: sideline with most of your teammates, like talking, talking to him,

1720
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: taking them through different things. You know. That kind of

1721
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: surprised me that he wasn't in the building. And I

1722
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be There's always gonna be a sentiment, oh,

1723
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: you're being pro ownership. That's it's not the case. But

1724
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: sometimes what I struggle with is the being the teammates

1725
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: side of this that also kind of crosses paths with

1726
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: the business side and how bad blood can develop with

1727
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: a with an organization, not necessarily with teammates. I think

1728
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: it's it's complicated. There's a lot we don't know, but

1729
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: as a friendship and a teammate part of it. Look,

1730
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I think those two men like know exactly what's going

1731
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: on in each other's life. And the status that Lamar

1732
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 1: has with the team right now, it might be a

1733
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: distraction for him to be there and be around John Harbor.

1734
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Now you can a sign blamed to whose fault that

1735
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: is to get to this point, it's not a good point.

1736
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: If you had asked that, you know, if we had

1737
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: this information before you asked that question on the Thursday Show.

1738
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,520
Speaker 1: What's the percentage that Lamar is back for the team?

1739
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: I want to answer to a lot more than ten

1740
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: per I feel like we're in a different place and

1741
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: I can't help. But notice Rokuan Smith getting that contract

1742
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 1: extension last week doesn't have an agent. There's just been buzz.

1743
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: I guess that like they were working on a contract

1744
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: for Lamar last week. Potentially like that. This isn't necessarily

1745
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: like I think in a perfect world, like they all

1746
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: would have happened. And I think the money and and

1747
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: everything got mixed up here along with his injuries. I'm

1748
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: not doubting that, like he has the looseness in his knee,

1749
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: but I think if he's not with the team, that

1750
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: feels like it's taking this whole thing earlier. But we

1751
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: are going to talk about Lamar Jackson, about Lamar Jackson

1752
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy five times. Where did where did

1753
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: you get the reporting on the contract situation? I didn't

1754
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: have any reporting to share. I thought it was was

1755
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: it your paper? Oh well it wasn't. For uh the

1756
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Washington Post, it wasn't, but it was that reporter. It

1757
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: was yeah, Jason lock On for uh for I believe

1758
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: a radio station reported to like he he thought this

1759
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: was coming essentially and that he wasn't going to be

1760
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 1: showing up, and he thinks it's not going to be

1761
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: happy that he's not. He's reporting the relationship between that

1762
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Lamar is in a bad place.

1763
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: I do not care what the watching posts. I mean,

1764
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: him not going to the game to me tells I

1765
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: think I don't know exactly, but it's a lot. I

1766
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 1: think you're also when you do that. Lamar is savvy

1767
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: enough to know that when he doesn't show up and

1768
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: we're all we're all talking about it now, we're all

1769
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: talking about this whole thing, and it's like that's an

1770
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 1: extra thing where credit or not. I don't think he's

1771
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: that is his focus he because he doesn't and it

1772
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: like he doesn't have an eight Like he's not managing

1773
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: the pr angle of it. As as a primer, if

1774
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 1: you don't show up to your team's playoff game and

1775
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: like and you're able to go, what what what are

1776
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: we doing here? Well? I I think the able to

1777
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: go is a separate issue. I'm not saying that you

1778
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: couldn't get it. I think like he was able to go,

1779
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: like to play in the game, but this indicates a

1780
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: bad state of their relationship. All right, And now what

1781
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: everyone's been waiting for, And remember, there's one more game.

1782
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: It is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosting of the Dallas

1783
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys Monday night, and we'll have the full recap and

1784
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: all the other reaction to everything that's going on in

1785
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: our league as we start spinning towards divisional round play

1786
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. But you've been waiting for the divisional playoffs

1787
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: schedule and here it is. So sorry, but before we

1788
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: get too far, Nick Westling locked the Bengals. Okay, go

1789
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: ahead with this, girl. I just wanna, you know, keep

1790
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: the audience on their toes. No, that's that's bookkeeping. That's

1791
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: an important part of being a producer. Thank you, Grave

1792
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Digger Um Saturday. This upcoming Saturday, the first game four

1793
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern on NBC the Jacksonville jack you Rs

1794
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: at Kansas City Chiefs. Frisky. I love it. I think

1795
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 1: it's frisky. I'm glad we got this because that had

1796
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,919
Speaker 1: been the Ravens winning would have been a whole different situation.

1797
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: This is nice. I like that. Uh the night game, Oh,

1798
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna get wild and salty in the Northeast because

1799
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: then a Gimon travel to the Link to face the

1800
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,879
Speaker 1: Eagles at eight fifteen ESPN excuse me Eastern, that's on Fox.

1801
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: The Sunday games will be Cincinnati at Bills on CBS

1802
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: at three o'clock and Cowboys or Bucks at Niners at

1803
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: six thirty pm Eastern on Fox. Good Slate, very good.

1804
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: It is the best weekend of the year at Division

1805
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: round playoffs. Came within a hair of having the Bengals

1806
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: and Bills knocked out. We would that would have been

1807
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 1: utter Kay, this is kind of perfect. You got good games,

1808
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: but you got the top two seeds in each conference through.

1809
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 1: You got the Bengals through, which I wanted. And the

1810
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: way this Giants team is playing that game is in

1811
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: the way the Eagles ended the season. That game is

1812
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: very way more interested. Endless updates about a shoulder that's

1813
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: not failing up to snuff going on. I mean, Nick

1814
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: Serial did a lot of talk about what a right

1815
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: healer Jalen Hurts is. Let's see how healed up he

1816
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: is come Saturday night in Philadelphia. Alright, any other thoughts.

1817
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,919
Speaker 1: Boys thought that was good. I thought that was a

1818
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: solid professional, comprehensive breakdown of Super wild Card weekend. We

1819
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 1: are professionals, and I would just like to let you know,

1820
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: you know and others that we've had a microphone issue

1821
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: and here a headset issue and so the entire night. UM.

1822
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: I like to use the cough button on these machines

1823
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot, just in times, just to button. It's located

1824
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: um above Greg's lap, because it had to be plugged

1825
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: into the one that Greg's normally and he's one further down.

1826
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: This is what we're opening the common y here to somebody.

1827
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: But like, we can edit this out so it's sar.

1828
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: But I I did not use the cough button once

1829
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: because it seemed too too awkward. So I did use

1830
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: it once, didn't you. I didn't use it twice justin

1831
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: this is when you hit the music. Um, was there

1832
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 1: any type of glancing? I warned Greg ahead of time

1833
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 1: that this was this might be a thing, but I

1834
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: try to keep it to a minute of them. Once,

1835
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: give me a wink if there was a crotch graze, No,

1836
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: not on my butt, not on my call. Whatever