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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we made it to Friday. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tansky with you. This is One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: As we put a camper on the week that is

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Speaker 2: Week fourteen in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: We are neck deep in it and didn't even know

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Speaker 3: it down today.

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Speaker 2: The stretch we come and Bill's Rams obviously on the

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Speaker 2: docket for Sunday afternoon for I have Eastern time kickoff,

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Speaker 2: so I have to wait a little longer because the Bills,

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Speaker 2: as we know, are out on the West Coast effective

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and longest trip of the season.

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Speaker 1: It's late in the year.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully there's a bye week and the not too distant past,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully the bodies are in decent shape. And I

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Speaker 2: would think for a good number of the starters they

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Speaker 2: are because they only had to play about three quarters

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Speaker 2: of football last Sunday night, so that was a plus

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Speaker 2: in terms of body recovery at this point in the season,

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Speaker 2: when bodies aren't feeling too hot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watch it is. It's fun to be in

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Speaker 3: here because now you can kind of sit back on

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Speaker 3: a date week like this. I went back and watched,

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Speaker 3: you know, Thursday Night Football last night. Great game by

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Speaker 3: the way, Detroit. We'll get into that fantastic game. And

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Speaker 3: Detroit does seem to have that special vibe this year.

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Speaker 3: You gotta tip your hat to them. They got it

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Speaker 3: going on. And Dan Campbell is a gift, no question

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Speaker 3: about it. But the postgame stuff that went on with

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Speaker 3: with Detroit the other night, the players, it was you

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Speaker 3: could tell a little bit like the Bills clinching the division,

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit perkier in the locker room, you know,

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Speaker 3: the players were a little bit There's a little sense

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Speaker 3: of relief that shows itself in you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: of different ways. Everybody's smiling, more happy, everything's relaxed. There's

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Speaker 3: just a sense of relief. And we're getting to that

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Speaker 3: part of the season now where you know it's time

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Speaker 3: to take a big, deep breath and say, you know, now,

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Speaker 3: let's go. And you can feel it and all these

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Speaker 3: teams they've got something in their pocket and now they're

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Speaker 3: going to go for more. It's it's pretty special time

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Speaker 3: now and you can feel it with this team here

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Speaker 3: in this building too.

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Speaker 2: And we'll we'll get to Thursday Night Football in just

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Speaker 2: a second. When we go around the NFL in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. But first, some Bills news and notes for you.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, everyone on the Bill's injury report is

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Speaker 2: practicing today in some capacity. We get the sense that

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Speaker 2: Kean Coleman is close to a return after missing the

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Speaker 2: last three games. We'll see if he's able to move

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Speaker 2: to a full practice participant today when the injury report

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Speaker 2: comes out later this afternoon. Dalton kincaid he's been limited

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Speaker 2: all week, but coach McDermott did acknowledge that the tight

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Speaker 2: end is making good progress. This was the first week

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Speaker 2: he has practiced in any capacity since the knee injury.

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Speaker 2: And rookie defensive tackle Dwayne Carter, who had his practice

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Speaker 2: window opened last week and has been on injured reserve

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Speaker 2: with a wrist injury that required surgery, has been practicing

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Speaker 2: fully for two weeks now. Coach McDermott said a decision

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Speaker 2: on whether to activate him to the fifty three man

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Speaker 2: roster could be made as soon as today, which would

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Speaker 2: then make him available for Sunday's game and a return

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Speaker 2: to the lineup. The other players who have been limited

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Speaker 2: if you think about it, Steve, he was not put

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Speaker 2: that would give indication that they didn't think the injury

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we were hoping coming out of the

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if he can be a full participant

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Speaker 1: Game against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: It'd be nice to have him on the outside opposite

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Speaker 2: Amari Cooper because one of the deficiencies and liabilities in

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Speaker 2: They just really have not been able to get consistent

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Speaker 2: more than probably upwards of two dozen times this season

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Speaker 2: no sign that it's getting better. I mean, we saw

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Speaker 2: the Commanders last week. They're trying to find answers at

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Speaker 2: is going to be a sprint to the finish to

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Speaker 2: see who wins the NFC West.

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Speaker 3: Out there, right and they're going to be still in

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Speaker 3: it well, no matter what happens this week, they're still

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Speaker 2: They're very much in a similar situation that the Bills

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Speaker 2: were in at this time last year. Now, their division

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Speaker 2: is a lot more muddled than the AFC East was

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Speaker 2: last year, because last year at this time, the Bills,

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Speaker 2: and they were three games back of the Dolphins with

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Speaker 2: and they'll get the head to head they need to

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Speaker 2: because they're they're placing playing each of their three division

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be that's gonna be a dogfight the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and all of them know, like you said, only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the way I mean, look at the NFC

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Speaker 2: North alone, they're gonna have three teams in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Packers are nine and four, Vikings are ten

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Speaker 1: Twelve and ones are ten and two.

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Speaker 2: So three teams are gonna two of the wildcards are

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Speaker 2: and then after that it's just division winners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a you can see right there

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Speaker 3: the huge line of demarcation at the wildcard that they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really, it's not just the NFC West,

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Speaker 2: The NFC South is also only going to have a

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Speaker 3: They're gonna You're gonna have two five hundred clubs.

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Speaker 1: Two very muddled divisions.

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Speaker 2: The haves and have nots are far more clear cut

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Speaker 3: And that's because and this is where the division play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since we're already talking about conference playoff races, we

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Speaker 2: might as well go around the NFL, which is presented

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Speaker 2: by kalide a Healthy official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: As we said, Detroit Lions outlast the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: on Thursday Night Football Last Night Final thirty four to

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Speaker 2: But the story of the game was Dan Campbell's fourth

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Speaker 2: Could convert, and I trust that O line, I trust

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery, and they came through for us. It's a

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Speaker 2: hell of a call by coordinator Ben Johnson. Detroit converted

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Speaker 2: They have seventy seven total on the season, which is

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Speaker 2: That is how I play this game, and I believe

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Speaker 1: And he was right. He took the good with the

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Speaker 3: I'll say this too, though I may be misremembering this,

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Speaker 3: but last night they went for it. They only got

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Speaker 1: To the Packers.

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Speaker 3: With a chance to tie it up, and they did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, why can't I be the punter for the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. Just sit over there with the clip boy? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: drink Gator EIGHTE.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, my guys, I'm curious about this.

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Speaker 2: I realize this has been his philosophy for years. How

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Speaker 2: secondarily is influenced by his defense's injury riddled status and

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Speaker 3: I don't think it.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't think that plays in factor at all.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick has interviewed for the vacant job at the

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're the North Carolina tar Heels and

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's it's even further removed than that.

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Speaker 1: Which is once again why I don't think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to go back four more years.

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Speaker 2: And accurately identify the best players in high school the guy,

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Speaker 2: here's the support system you coach football, Bill will get

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So that's around the NFL, presented by Kalida Healthy, official

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Speaker 2: The Friday Injury Report usually comes out around three three

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Speaker 2: fifteen in the afternoon, so I'll be sure to tweet it,

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Speaker 2: but look at Buffalo Bills dot com for updates there.

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Speaker 2: It is also Friday, which means the OBL Friday Fan

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Speaker 2: Mailbag is open, where Steve and I answer any and

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Speaker 2: all of your most pressing questions, whether it be about

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Speaker 2: the Bills, the NFL rules, whatever under the sun that

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Speaker 2: deals with football.

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Speaker 1: We're here to answer it for you.

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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweets sheet at One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the phones now, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: lead off with Mark in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Mark, You're on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 8: Hello Chris, Hello Steve. My question is mainly for Steve

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Speaker 8: and the I'm gonna go back into the Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: era of the nineties and what was you know used

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Speaker 8: talk about getting pumped up and psyched And what was

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Speaker 8: the song Steve that really got used guys pumped up?

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Speaker 8: Because when I look back and going into that era,

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Speaker 8: a C. D C Thunderstruck was like a huge song.

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Speaker 8: Was that the one that got used guys pumped up?

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Speaker 1: Well, you got me. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We didn't pla, We didn't have a playlist in the

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Speaker 3: locker room where everybody had their own kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: they went through and.

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Speaker 1: I back then they had their discman, their walkman.

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Speaker 3: Uh and in the stadium they played they had their

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Speaker 3: own soundtrack, which we never had any say about what

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Speaker 3: music they played in the stadium. So, uh, yeah, music

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Speaker 3: always helps. It's always a kind of a go to

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Speaker 3: for a lot of players to get, you know, stuff

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Speaker 3: to either calm them down or pump them up. But

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Speaker 3: for the most part, you come down the tunnel on

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Speaker 3: game day in what it used to be the Ralph

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Speaker 3: or rich Stadium or high Mark or New whatever. You

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Speaker 3: come down the tunnel in high Mark and you don't

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Speaker 3: need music. It's you're pumped up by the time you

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Speaker 3: reach the bottom of the tunnel. It's pretty cool. An

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Speaker 3: It's a once in a lifetime kind of experience.

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Speaker 2: I was in college at that time in our college

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Speaker 2: hockey team at school was like one of the top

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Speaker 2: ranked teams in the country and they I had never

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Speaker 2: heard thunderstruck before. And I'm a freshman in college in

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Speaker 2: ninety and they come out on the ice.

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Speaker 1: Because my friends are telling me, oh, you got to

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Speaker 1: go to the hockey games. They're unbelievable. They're unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It's got the little bandbox, you know, and the crowd's

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Speaker 2: loud because it's a little place and you get you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred three thousand people in there, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like thirty and so you know, we're all sitting there

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Speaker 2: ready for the first game of the season, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden they're playing Thunderstruck, which I had not

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Speaker 2: heard before.

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Speaker 1: It was brand new saw and.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, they're coming out, you know, they're

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Speaker 2: doing the warm up skates circling.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is unbelievable. The game hasn't even

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Speaker 1: started yet. It was it was.

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Speaker 3: Always yeah, there's it's uh, yeah, there's a Every generation

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Speaker 3: has its kind of anthem that does that. Back in

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Speaker 3: when I was in high school, was Boston their first album. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can pick any almost any of the songs on that,

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Speaker 3: and man, it was go time, fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thunderstruck is a keeper though, fun stuff. Yes, some people

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Speaker 1: even play it now. Oh yeah, and it's thirty years later,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, still playing that.

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Speaker 3: Some of the stuff's timeless.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Judy and Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for his Judy?

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Speaker 9: Okay, first of all, I'm I'm ready for a nap,

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Speaker 9: but I'm save. I love you, but I think I'm

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Speaker 9: ongoing some sort of melody looking at you with your shirt.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what it is, vertigo or whatever it is.

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Speaker 9: Please please help me to explain this. But I really

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Speaker 9: wanted to comment about this. I'm not worried about the

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Speaker 9: Buffles offense, but I still don't think the defense has

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Speaker 9: established itself with any kind of identity. And when is

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Speaker 9: it going to come, because it's got to come this

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Speaker 9: week before we play the Lions, because you have to

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Speaker 9: have both ends of the team going in to Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good question, Judy.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Steve's wearing a plaid pattern shirt for

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Speaker 2: our radio listeners who can't because.

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Speaker 3: At the bill store right at the stadium, it's a

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Speaker 3: flannel shirt. It's really roasts.

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Speaker 1: Playing games on people's televisions. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But as far as defensive identity, I would argue Judy

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Speaker 2: that they do have an identity.

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Speaker 1: It's just different from what we've seen in years past.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I actually talk about this extensively on this

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Speaker 2: week's Builds by the Numbers podcast, So if you want

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Speaker 2: to kind of discuss this or hear about this more

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Speaker 2: in depth, you can go there on any of your

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Speaker 2: podcast platforms and just look up Bills by the Numbers.

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Speaker 2: But it's a defense that has shifted its philosophical approach

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Speaker 2: under Leslie Frazier. This used to be a defense that

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Speaker 2: would limit yards and get off the field on third

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Speaker 2: down by forcing teams in long down down and distance

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Speaker 2: on third down. Under Sean McDermott and Bobby Babbage, it

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Speaker 2: has completely done a oneint eighty. It is not focused

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Speaker 2: on limiting yards. It is focused on two things, taking

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Speaker 2: the ball away and stiffening in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: And it's worked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, five times they've held opponents to ten points.

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Speaker 2: They're never gonna rank high and run defense. They're never

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Speaker 2: gonna rank high in total defense. There's still a top

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Speaker 2: ten pass defense, but they're relying on takeaways and playing

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Speaker 2: lights out defense in the red zone. And to this

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Speaker 2: point it's worked to the tune of a ten and

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Speaker 2: two record.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's the way it's been under Bob Babbage.

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Speaker 3: That's where it was under Sean McDermott as well. At

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Speaker 3: last fraserret They they want to be more impactful, they think, uh,

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Speaker 3: and I get it. It's hard to play defense in

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Speaker 3: the NFL these days because you know, because of so

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Speaker 3: many you have so many limitations the way you tackle,

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Speaker 3: you know, the punishment you're able to dish out on

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Speaker 3: the offensive players, all of that stuff, and it's just

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Speaker 3: it seems like you can make more of an impact defensively,

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Speaker 3: if you're in these finger quotes, playmakers, if you come

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Speaker 3: up with a play that changes things, and the Bills

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Speaker 3: have done that consistently from Week one all the way

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Speaker 3: through Week twelve. They are on it. They're getting they're

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Speaker 3: getting at least a turnover a game. This last week

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Speaker 3: they got three turnovers. They were all three fumbles. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking like they're they're filling the sky with

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Speaker 3: the interceptions. They're they're forcing fumbles, and I think their

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Speaker 3: front four does a good job of forcing the quarterback

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Speaker 3: to get rid of it before he wants to or

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Speaker 3: move around. So they're I think they're making plays at

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Speaker 3: both ends of the passing game and in the run game.

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Speaker 3: I think you're I think we've talked about it at length.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like they don't care if the team's gonna

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Speaker 3: run it because they're they're great at red zone defense.

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Speaker 3: All they need is really one good run stop and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the offense is behind the sticks,

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Speaker 3: and then they play good pass defense, get after the passer.

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Speaker 3: They'll get off the field that it happens enough that

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Speaker 3: they can't with whoever they're playing, can't keep up with

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Speaker 3: the offense. Because this offense is humming and it has

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Speaker 3: been so that philosophy has just allowed them to out

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Speaker 3: distance all their opponents. You look up and they're hanging

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Speaker 3: thirty points on everybody. So they if they get their

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Speaker 3: opponent to miss out on a couple of nice even

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Speaker 3: if their opponent drives it drives it, drives, it drives

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Speaker 3: it and comes away with a field goal, that's kind

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Speaker 3: of a win for Buffalo because they're that team's gonna

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Speaker 3: run out of chances to put us seven points on

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Speaker 3: the board because because their offense is going to do that,

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Speaker 3: that philosophy has just strangled team's ability to hang with them.

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Speaker 2: And they've proven it because through twelve games, they have

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Speaker 2: at least one takeaway in every game. Eight of their

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Speaker 2: twelve games they have multiple takeaways. So they've proven they

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Speaker 2: can sustainably continue to get turnovers, which thereby gives extra

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Speaker 2: possessions to their offense. I'll close with this before we

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Speaker 2: go to the break here, but we're still taking your

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Speaker 2: phone calls at eight h three ZHO five to fifty

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Speaker 2: when we come back. This is Bobby Babbage's quote on

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Speaker 2: the defensive philosophy now under him, concerning takeaways being the

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Speaker 2: number one priority for them. He says, quote, it's an expectation.

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Speaker 2: If we're not winning the turnover margin in the game

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Speaker 2: and we're not taking the ball away, it's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: And in the end, you can look at yards, you

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Speaker 2: can look at all kinds of different things, but if

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Speaker 2: you are taking the ball away from the offense and

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Speaker 2: taking possessions from them, it is the ultimate factor. The

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Speaker 2: ball is the most important thing in the game of football.

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Speaker 2: It's the ball, not the yards that they get. You

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Speaker 2: obviously want to limit the yards, but when it comes

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Speaker 2: down to it, it's about the football. That little ball,

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Speaker 2: we say all the time is worth billions and we

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Speaker 2: need to take it away.

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Speaker 1: That is the philosophy of the Bills defense.

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Speaker 2: Now, got to take a break more of your phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we come back here on one Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: Stay with.

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Speaker 1: Got to get back to the phones is We.

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Speaker 2: Have an obl Friday fan mailbag open and ready for

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Speaker 2: any and all of your Bills and NFL relatedests, and

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Speaker 2: leading us off on this segment is Joe in Tanawanda.

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Speaker 1: What do you got fer us?

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Speaker 7: Joe, Hey, guys, great to hear from me. I's great

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Speaker 7: to hear from you, Steve making comment here season ticket holder,

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Speaker 7: myself five years now, Bill's fan over fifty years. I

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Speaker 7: was at the game Sunday and it was one of

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Speaker 7: the most electrifying and awesome times I've had my time

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Speaker 7: with watching the Bills and going to games. My point is,

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Speaker 7: I don't think fans are people. They make these comments

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Speaker 7: of they're building a new stadium, we need a dome,

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Speaker 7: et cetera. I clearly witnessed a team here in Buffalo

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Speaker 7: that is fully adapt to play in this inclement weather.

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Speaker 7: And I've watched teams like Miami and San Francisco this

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Speaker 7: week Chicago, these warm weather teams when they come here,

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Speaker 7: they are not built to play in the snow and

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Speaker 7: withstand the cold, the freezing tempts to win and the snow.

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Speaker 7: Buffalo is made for winners football. It was elect trying

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Speaker 7: to watch Greg Russo. At the end of the game,

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Speaker 7: he was getting interviewed and he said, it's like being

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Speaker 7: a kid. I remember when I was a kid and

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Speaker 7: we used to play football in the snow, and how

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Speaker 7: much is fun? And Steve Cobby going attest to that,

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Speaker 7: playing in Buffalo in the cold and snow. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know what, I don't want to hear about domes

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Speaker 7: and news. You know what, Let's play football in the

659
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 7: snow because we are we are tough mafia. We play

660
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 7: football in the worst of the leather. Thanks guys.

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00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: All right, sure thing, Joe, that was more of a

662
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: statement than a question, but well said.

663
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Speaker 3: I'll say this. You know you're all gonna hear a

664
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: ton about the new stadium. The new stadium's coming. It's

665
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 3: gonna be here in two seasons or season and a half.

666
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: Now next year is the last season in high Mark,

667
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: this high Mark. I know, it's difficult to say goodbye

668
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: to something. We've been grown used to, this stadium and

669
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: how it's gonna be, and everybody's you hear all this,

670
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: the rumors and this stuff about oh my gosh, you know,

671
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to afford to go. You're

672
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: gonna be able to afford to go to games. There's

673
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: gonna be if you want to go, You're gonna be

674
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: able to afford it. It's gonna be a fantastic venue.

675
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: You are gonna love it. And and I'll say it again,

676
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: I am really happy. Like Joe from north Tonjuana, I'm

677
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 3: really happy it's not going to be a dome stadium.

678
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why. I as much as anybody

679
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: like to walk around pregame around the campus here, around

680
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: the neighborhoods, the Mafia House, uh, Poncho's, Pancho's Army, the

681
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: water Buffalo's. I mean, you've got you know, the hammer Lot.

682
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: All of that stuff is going on, and it's unique

683
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: to this area. Everybody's got their routine and their everybody's friendly.

684
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: And I ran across a ton of forty nine er

685
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: fans and they want to say, hey what And they

686
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: were welcomed with open arms by Bill's Mafia. They came in,

687
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: they showed them a great time. They were very hospitable.

688
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: It's one of the things that makes this place unique.

689
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: If we put if there had decided to put a

690
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: dome stadium in, all that would go away. You don't

691
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: have to believe me, I'm telling you it would maybe

692
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: not right away, but sooner or later it would evolve

693
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: away from everything that we know and love about the

694
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Mafia outside the stadium on game day, it would all

695
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: go away because people will just show up and go inside.

696
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: They'll show up and they'll just go right inside. And

697
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: that's that's just the way it happens in dome stadiums

698
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: all around the league, no matter what happened before that

699
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 3: or any now. If they have a dome stadium, that's

700
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: what people do. And so I'm kind of for me,

701
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: being an old guy, I like this new stadium and

702
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: the design. It's gonna be fantastic. You're gonna be sitting

703
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: right on top of the game. It's gonna be phenomenal

704
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: and you're gonna love it. And I'm glad that it's

705
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Speaker 3: not domed.

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Speaker 1: Let's move along to Aaron out in Oregon. What do

707
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: you got for his?

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Speaker 11: Aaron, Hey, you guys, pleasure to speak with you. It's

709
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 11: always an honor. First off, I wanted to just mention

710
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 11: that Mark Levy, I think turned ninety nine is out right,

711
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 11: you see it did, that's right. Yeah. So you know,

712
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 11: if there's ever a time to win it for the

713
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 11: old Guard and for one of our legends, this year

714
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 11: would be awesome to win it. Well, he's still with us,

715
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 11: so I really really wanted to happen. I started thinking

716
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 11: about that when Mica Hide signed back and like, hey,

717
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 11: let's win it for my Hey, let's win it for

718
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 11: Marv Levy.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 11: So that's that's the first one thing I want to say. Secondly,

721
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 11: I have a question for you as broadcasters. I got

722
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 11: to go to a game for my fiftieth birthday. I

723
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 11: flew out from Oregon out of Orchard Park for my

724
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 11: first home game, and I saw John Murphy in the

725
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 11: parking lot and I chickened out and I didn't say hello,

726
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 11: or I didn't say like even wave or like hey John.

727
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 11: So I just didn't want to bug him. So from

728
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 11: your guys at standpoint, I feel I kind of regret it.

729
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 11: But from your guys a standpoint, did I do the

730
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 11: right thing there? Or should have I gone over and

731
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 11: say like thank you for being the voice of the

732
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 11: Bills or what do you guys think on that?

733
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

734
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean I think most of us here in Buffalo

735
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: are pretty approachable. I would say, you know, maybe in

736
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 2: big markets national guys, maybe.

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00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

738
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for anybody, but I get

739
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: the sense that most of the broadcasters here in Buffalo

740
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: are pretty approachable. I mean, we all put our pants

741
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: on one leg at a time like anybody else. It's

742
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: not like we're any kind of special humans at all.

743
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: We just do a different job than you do. That's

744
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: all right, Brownie.

745
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: And I can't speak for Murph and how he would

746
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 3: respond to that, but it has been my It has

747
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: been my experience when I'm right, people come up and

748
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: say hi to him, and he couldn't be nicer, and

749
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: he does not mind it at all. I mean, I'm

750
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: not turning everybody loose to come bother John, but you know,

751
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, particularly if you're from Oregon. Because guys

752
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: like Brownie, you do the games and you know all

753
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: your friends and family are here in town, you forget

754
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: that there are people across the world who use your

755
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: voice as their lifeline to the team. And I think

756
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: even Brownie would appreciate the gravity of that and the

757
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: responsibility of it. And I think to have somebody come

758
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 3: from New Oregon to see their first game and then

759
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: to recognize the former voice of the Bills and the

760
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: longtime voice of the Bills in the flesh, yeah I

761
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: would Aaron. I would have said Yeah, go say hello

762
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: to him. He would love to meet somebody from Oregon

763
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: who came to their first game and recognized him as

764
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: that that. Yeah, that's a gift. Don't don't sell yourself short.

765
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: And just so you know, Steve and I are approachable,

766
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: So feel free to say hi if you're reck Brownie

767
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: might see.

768
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: Brownie might spit on you, because he's that kind of guy.

769
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: But I'm always willing to say hi.

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00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Whatever.

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00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the phones here and

772
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: to Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Ryan, Chris, Steve, Happy Friday, boys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks?

775
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: I got three things, three things to talk about. First

776
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: of all, this game on Sunday against the Rams, I

777
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 5: think the must win for the for the Rams, I

778
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 5: mean up for the Mills. Because Rams has a short

779
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: week against Sam Fan on Thurason Air Football, so you

780
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 5: might you might get them off. God, they might be

781
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: looking ahead. I don't know. But the week after against Detroit,

782
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 5: Detroit looks nasty, they look scary, and you know what,

783
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 5: To be honest, Dan Campbell he's crazy. I think he

784
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 5: just he doesn't want the ball to be in the

785
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: appoint hands. It doesn't matter if it's forty seconds or

786
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 5: twenty seconds left or five minutes left. He wants to

787
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 5: go for it. So you've got to be careful with

788
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: uh with Detroit, especially having we have ten days off

789
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: and then two more on touchdown Guys, the last two

790
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 5: teams that actually had eleven wins more in the regular

791
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 5: season that actually repeated the Super Bowl, all both of

792
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: those teams got limited in the NFC Championship game. Steve,

793
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: you might know this. The Niners in nineteen ninety lost

794
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: their Giants, and Giants beat the Girls with the wide

795
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: left white right, and then ninety four Cowboys lost to

796
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 5: the San Francisco the NFC Championship Game. So now Chiefs

797
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 5: have leven win some more. And then thirdly, the two

798
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 5: teams in the NFC has the longest streak, the Lions

799
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: and the Eagles. You know, the last last game they

800
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: the last time they lost was against Tampa Bay. Crazy

801
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 5: stats and during the show, guys, I wanted his feet back.

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00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 12: Thank you, thanks, Ryan.

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00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, there's a lot in that, but you're

804
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: right all those there's some crazy stuff out there. Tampa

805
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Bay's the last team to beat those teams. Yeah, yeah,

806
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: it's crazy. And also you're right, Brnnan and I were

807
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: talking about his day hate. Detroit is a tough team,

808
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: no question about it. And it is sitting here now,

809
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my gosh. They get ten days off to.

810
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Think about the Bill, they get a mini buye.

811
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: They get a mini bye week before Buffalo goes in

812
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: plays them in Detroit. I don't know if that all

813
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: affects the importance of the game this week, except how

814
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: it affects the Bill's chiefs race for the one seed.

815
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: But LA's got to keep winning. The Bills need to

816
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 3: keep winning. Were at that time of year when these

817
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: games get bigger and bigger and more significant and more

818
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: significant and more definitive. There is less time to recover

819
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: and less time for another team to stumble to get

820
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 3: you back in it if you do fall, So every

821
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: game is a little bit more important.

822
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, more of your phone

823
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: calls when we return here. On an obl Friday fan

824
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Speaker 2: mailbag edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Kaleida Health,

825
00:42:51,600 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's collision course is brought

826
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: to you by Gabes Collision. Gabe's Collision, the official auto

827
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills. Get Back in

828
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: the game and the collision course this week and Bill's

829
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: Rams is Buffalo's run game against the Rams defensive front.

830
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: Rams having trouble all season long stopping the run. They're

831
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: giving up one hundred and forty four a game on

832
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: the ground. That's twenty eighth in the league. And they

833
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: are most susceptible to the north south downhill run game.

834
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of opponents in the past have.

835
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Thrown at them.

836
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: Bills would be wise to kind of do the same

837
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: and at least test them in that area.

838
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: And maybe a Ray Davis kind of game, you know

839
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: where there's under center, let's go old time football.

840
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: We saw the Bills do that last week, do more

841
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: to the weather than anything else, and they did it

842
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: to the two and two hundred and twenty rushing yards,

843
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: a season high because throwing really, he wasn't in the

844
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: equation with the weather the way it was.

845
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: We had thermanon yesterday or was it yesterday to day last?

846
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Yesterday yesterday, and he, oh my god, he can't wait.

847
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: It was like an ice cream Sunday for him. He

848
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: rub it on his face.

849
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: But I think I think there are some gains to

850
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: be made by taking that approach offensively, because as we

851
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: said earlier, you have to stay out of third and

852
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: long against this team.

853
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: That is their wheelhouse. That Rams defensive front.

854
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: Is very young wheelhouse, very athletic, and they have a

855
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: Nascar package where they have two outside linebackers and two

856
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: defensive ends coming at you, and it is not pretty.

857
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: I've watched some of the games already and I had

858
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: the stat opponents in third and seven or more of

859
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: the Rams, they've had fifty seven plays in third and

860
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: seven or more. They have converted eight of them into

861
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: first downs. That is a fourteen percent success rate.

862
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: Not good. Stay out of third and long.

863
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: Way to do that is by running right at him

864
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: because they have troublestop in the run. Seaquon Barkley went

865
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: off on those guys.

866
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: Nothing takes the starts out of a defense more than

867
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: getting hammered on. They don't ever get to rush the passer,

868
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: you know, they never get to do the fun stuff.

869
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Bat passes down, sack the quarterback.

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: That's yeah.

871
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: It takes its toll quickly.

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00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: So that is.

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00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: Collision course brought to you by Gabe's Collision. Let's go

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Speaker 2: back to the phones in the OBL Friday fan mail

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Speaker 2: bag and we go to Nick on a cell next,

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Speaker 2: what's up Nick?

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Speaker 12: Hey guys? Hey do them good?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 12: So I had two things. One on Ray Davis. He

880
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Speaker 12: reminds me a lot of like a modern day I'm jd.

881
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Speaker 12: I don't know all you guys feel about that, but

882
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Speaker 12: I just feels like a human pinball. Seems like when

883
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Speaker 12: he runs.

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Speaker 1: Yep the ground.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, dude. Do you think the roster is finally

886
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 12: what McDermott and Beam have been shooting for since day one?

887
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 12: Very cohesive team. Everybody does their job, We're gonna feel

888
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 12: everybody steps up and they needs you, and it's it's

889
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 12: not about a single individual, but just about the team,

890
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Speaker 12: the culture and the community and working together is like

891
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Speaker 12: a family. You could say.

892
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Speaker 3: I think they always want it to be a close

893
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Speaker 3: knit group, and I think they want guys that care

894
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Speaker 3: about each other and that are selfless and all of that.

895
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Speaker 3: I'm not I don't know if you want to go

896
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Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole talking about the nuances of roster building,

897
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Speaker 3: but you build your roster as best you can every year,

898
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Speaker 3: and you love every one of them. I mean, you

899
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Speaker 3: know they're not lamenting the roster they had last year

900
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Speaker 3: or bumming out about the four year ago roster that

901
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Speaker 3: you know, it's not like they didn't like it at

902
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Speaker 3: the time. They love that roster too. Sean mcdermot's job

903
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Speaker 3: is to get his arms around all the guys in

904
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Speaker 3: the building and get them to play their best on

905
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Speaker 3: game day every week. And he does. He cares about

906
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 3: these guys, he finds out about him, He lets him

907
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Speaker 3: know who he is. He becomes, you know, a leader

908
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Speaker 3: for them somebody, and he lets him know he's somebody

909
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Speaker 3: they want to jump on board with, as is the

910
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Speaker 3: rest of the coaching staff. So, you know, I think

911
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Speaker 3: the roster, I don't know whether they whether it's where

912
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Speaker 3: they wanted it or whether it's not. It's where it is,

913
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Speaker 3: and then they've done everything they can to get as

914
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Speaker 3: get it as good as they can this year. And

915
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Speaker 3: whether it's this year or two years ago, they like

916
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Speaker 3: these guys in this room because that's that's what makes

917
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Speaker 3: it work, that's the game, that's the league.

918
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say you're always hoping that the

919
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Speaker 2: chemistry clicks too, And I would say this year the

920
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Speaker 2: team chemistry has clicked even better than it has in

921
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Speaker 2: previous years, not that it hasn't been there in previous years,

922
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Speaker 2: it just seems to be a little extra special this

923
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Speaker 2: year with the team chemistry.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Kathy and Florida. Nex. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for his Kathy?

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Speaker 13: Hi, guys, I am in need of some serious help

927
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Speaker 13: and advice. Okay, I've been a Bill fan my whole life,

928
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Speaker 13: and my one of my favorite non football memories was

929
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Speaker 13: when I was downtown after that first Super Bowl AFT

930
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Speaker 13: with the wide right being there with Scott Norwood and

931
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Speaker 13: the whole the whole atmosphere of that place was just electric.

932
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Speaker 13: I'm sure you remember that, Steve. It was just an

933
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Speaker 13: amazing experience, I think for anybody who'd been of those

934
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Speaker 13: fan for more than twenty years.

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Speaker 7: At that point.

936
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Speaker 13: And so my problem now is I, you know, I

937
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Speaker 13: haven't been to a Those game in forever. I'm down

938
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Speaker 13: in Florida. My kids have been to a few games,

939
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Speaker 13: my husband's been a few games. None of them understand

940
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Speaker 13: my love for the Bills. They they tolerate it from

941
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Speaker 13: time to time, and they let me watch my games,

942
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Speaker 13: but you know, and I make a meat wings and

943
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Speaker 13: you fan wick and all the good stuff, but you know,

944
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Speaker 13: they're just not into it as much as I am

945
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Speaker 13: so I've got this bad ankle, and I've had it

946
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Speaker 13: for a really long time. Finally this summer I decided

947
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Speaker 13: to go ahead the surgery. Surgery is now scheduled for

948
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Speaker 13: the middle of January. If I get the surgery, I'll

949
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Speaker 13: be non weight bearing and in a cast for at

950
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Speaker 13: least three months. Means no driving, no going to any

951
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Speaker 13: playoff games, no being downtown for the Super Bowl party

952
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Speaker 13: and the parades and all that stuff. Everybody's taken time

953
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Speaker 13: off from work for the surgery so they can help

954
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Speaker 13: me out because I'm going to be pretty incapacitated for

955
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Speaker 13: a while and then a lot paid. Do I reschedule

956
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Speaker 13: my surgery so I don't miss this?

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Speaker 2: This is a tough one for the football relationship outline

958
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Speaker 2: presented by Pepsi Kathy, I would say this, I think

959
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Speaker 2: you have to think about the burden that your body

960
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Speaker 2: will have to withstand by postponing it, and if you

961
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Speaker 2: deem that to be more unbearable then missing a potential

962
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl parade in downtown Buffalo, I think you have

963
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Speaker 2: to really weigh that out, and only you can, because

964
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Speaker 2: only you know how that how bad that ankle feels now,

965
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Speaker 2: and how much more you can live with it like

966
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Speaker 2: it is, and I think it's up to you to

967
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Speaker 2: weigh that burden out against how you will feel if

968
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Speaker 2: you miss what could be a very special season.

969
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Speaker 3: And it's also it's also about your family and their

970
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Speaker 3: sacrifice they're gonna make too, so think about them as well.

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Speaker 3: And and let'sten, Kathy, your health comes before a Bill's parade,

972
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Speaker 3: even if it is a Super Bowl parade. So yeah,

973
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Speaker 3: it's a tough decision. But let me say this, there

974
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Speaker 3: are no guarantees that the Bills are gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, right, And if.

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Speaker 3: You know, if if you're if you're superstitious, you should

977
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Speaker 3: get your ankle surgery and and hope that it's the wrong,

978
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Speaker 3: absolute wrong time to get it because the Bills are

979
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Speaker 3: going and doing all of that, right. That's a it's

980
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Speaker 3: a real tough question. I think you make your the

981
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Speaker 3: decision based on your health and your family sacrifice that

982
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Speaker 3: they're making on your behalf. You know, you're saying people

983
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Speaker 3: taking time off, you're going to be incapacitated, and you

984
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Speaker 3: know you're obviously in a lot of pain. Anyway, I

985
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Speaker 3: would do something to alleviate the pain. First, yeah, and

986
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Speaker 3: think about the team later.

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Speaker 2: I'm it's admirable that your fandom is making you that

988
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Speaker 2: unselfish in light of the situation that you're in. I

989
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Speaker 2: think this is one of those instances, Kathy, where you

990
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Speaker 2: have to take care of Numero uno.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So hopefully that helps Kathy, and good luck and

993
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Speaker 2: hope the surgery goes well. And we're open to any

994
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: in all times to take your football relationship. Hodline questions

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Speaker 2: at eight O three oh five fifty. Glad she did

996
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Speaker 2: that on a Friday because we were happy to help.

997
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. When we begin our

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Speaker 2: number two, we'll be doing it with our good friend

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Speaker 2: Greg co Sale, senior producer from NFL Films. He joins

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Speaker 2: us next here on One Bill's Live presented by Collida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 14: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Friday can mean

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Speaker 2: only one thing. Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosale,

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00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: joining us to talk Bill's Rams and Greg Cosale's weekly

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Speaker 2: segment presented by Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site works

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Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bill's Good after Noon Greg got

1008
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Speaker 2: an interesting one here this week out on the Left coast,

1009
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: and the Rams have been a tricky team to figure.

1010
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: They had a lot of injuries at the beginning of.

1011
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: The season, including Nikua and Cup both out for a

1012
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: stretch lineman out, left, right and center on their offensive line,

1013
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: and it really set them back. They get off to

1014
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: a one and four start, but now they've won five

1015
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: of their last seven. Matthew Stafford as fourteen touchdown passes

1016
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Speaker 2: since Week eight. What kind of a team are they now?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think they're really well defined and we can

1018
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 15: kind of walk through this a little bit, guys, because

1019
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 15: offensively and defensively, I think they're really defined, and you know, offensively,

1020
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 15: everyone knows what Sean McVeigh does, so what you have

1021
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 15: to defend with them? Obviously, the run game is a

1022
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 15: starting point. It used to be all zone. It is

1023
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 15: not anymore. There's a lot of duo, there's a lot

1024
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 15: of gap scheme there. It's a far more multiple run

1025
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 15: game that many might remember sort of in the years

1026
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 15: just before and just after the Super Bowl when it

1027
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Speaker 15: was Todd Gurley. So the run game is far more multiple,

1028
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 15: But it's the pass game that's really can be really

1029
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 15: special and what you deal with in the pass game.

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Speaker 15: Number one is heavy eleven personnel. They're probably ninety percent

1031
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 15: eleven personnel. They play with three wide receivers almost on

1032
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 15: every snap. You're going to get a lot of what

1033
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Speaker 15: we call reduced and cut splits where the wide receivers

1034
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 15: line up close to the formation. Number two, there's a

1035
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 15: ton of motion, shifting in motion. They have movement before

1036
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 15: the snap. On I would bet eighty five percent of

1037
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 15: their offensive plays. It's a heavy movement before the snap offense,

1038
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Speaker 15: and you must defend the middle of the field in

1039
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Speaker 15: the passing game between the numbers, between the hashes. Stafford

1040
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 15: is as good an anticipation window thrower as any quarterback

1041
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 15: in the league. You know, you think of someone like

1042
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 15: Jared Goff, who's next up, but so you know those are.

1043
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 15: That's kind of what their offense is. It's really well defined.

1044
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 15: You know what you have to defend.

1045
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: And with Stafford, it doesn't look from this end. And

1046
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Speaker 3: certainly he was never a Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson,

1047
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: but he seems like he's playing very well. Well beyond

1048
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: the years would say he could.

1049
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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 15: I gotta tell you, Steve, and you've been doing this

1051
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 15: a long time. You've seen a lot of quarterbacks. He

1052
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 15: still throws the ball out as well as anybody in

1053
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 15: the league. You know, he was making all these kinds

1054
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 15: of off platform throws well before Patrick Mahomes. It's just

1055
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 15: nobody took note of it because he was playing for

1056
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 15: a bad Detroit team. But he is as gifted a

1057
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 15: thrower as we've seen in this league. And you know,

1058
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Speaker 15: I don't want to say maybe ever, but that's that's

1059
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Speaker 15: possibly the case. I mean, this guy is a really

1060
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Speaker 15: gifted thrower. Now as his career has progressed, well, I

1061
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Speaker 15: wouldn't call him immobile on a statue. He certainly doesn't

1062
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 15: look to move and he's not necessarily going to create

1063
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 15: plays with his legs. But you can do the design

1064
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 15: boot play action pass game with him. You can get

1065
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 15: him out of the pocket by design, but you need

1066
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Speaker 15: to pressure him, and the pressure needs to come from

1067
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Speaker 15: up the middle. That's really where you want to be

1068
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Speaker 15: able to sort of shut him down because he's one

1069
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Speaker 15: of those guys that he will wait. He will be

1070
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Speaker 15: a late in the down pocket quarterback. He's not looking

1071
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Speaker 15: to get out of there, He's looking to wait and

1072
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 15: make throws. So he will stay there and therefore there

1073
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Speaker 15: can be times when he does get sacked, depending on

1074
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Speaker 15: the opponent and depending on the flow of the game.

1075
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Speaker 15: But their offense is they do a whole lot on offense. Now,

1076
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Speaker 15: my guess is that because the Bills play a lot

1077
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 15: of too high, which kind of balances your defense, that

1078
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Speaker 15: they won't have to make a ton of adjustments to movement.

1079
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Speaker 15: Will You won't see them start having to communicate a

1080
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Speaker 15: ton because the secondary will be balanced, as opposed to

1081
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Speaker 15: when you're single high and you've got a strength and

1082
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 15: a weakness, and you see teams have to communicate, they

1083
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 15: probably won't have to communicate as much as some other teams.

1084
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Speaker 2: Looking at the Rams defense, defending the run has been

1085
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: a persistent problem for them, I realize that the Saquon

1086
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: Barkley field day a couple of weeks ago may have

1087
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: skewed the numbers for them a little bit. Yep, But

1088
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: all that being said, it seems like teams have employed

1089
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: a down hill style run game from under center and

1090
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: it's worked very well against them for most of the season.

1091
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: What have you seen with their run defense deficiencies?

1092
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 15: Well, it's funny you say that, because you know I

1093
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 15: think as the seasons progress, because they play Brownie as

1094
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 15: you know, a lot of young players, and they've got

1095
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 15: good players in their front, and I think they're getting better.

1096
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 15: The numbers might not reflect. And your point's absolutely correct

1097
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 15: about the Barkley game. You know, obviously that excus it.

1098
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 15: But you know when you look at guys like Fist

1099
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 15: Kobe Turner ninety one is a really good player on

1100
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 15: the edges, you know, which is different than what you

1101
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 15: were speaking about. But they've got young a second year player.

1102
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 15: They've got Verse who has a speed to power pass rusher,

1103
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 15: even as a rookie, might be as good as there

1104
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 15: is in the league.

1105
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he just.

1106
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 15: Puts defensive offensive tackles on their back. Sometimes. You know,

1107
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 15: maybe it's the linebacking corps because I think you know

1108
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 15: what they're doing is they're playing. You know, they have

1109
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 15: multiple fronts that they play with, so depending on the

1110
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 15: front they play. Rose Boom, who's you know, I think,

1111
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 15: not a bad player, but you know, maybe you want

1112
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 15: better in space is he's kind of a he's really

1113
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 15: a backup who's been forced to play due to injury.

1114
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 15: And then they've got Michael Hoyt, who's kind of there

1115
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 15: do everything wild card player who lines up both on

1116
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 15: the ball and off the ball, depending on their fronts

1117
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 15: and their use of personnel. But I think they've got

1118
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 15: good people. It just you know, they're young players and

1119
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 15: it just hasn't quite come together enough to be a

1120
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 15: stronger run defense. But in terms of pass rush, that's

1121
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 15: where I think they can be really difficult.

1122
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen, you know, the tapes and everything of them.

1123
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: Their pass rush is really what they want to do,

1124
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: and certainly they're young and athletic. Is there a type

1125
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: of running game that teams have been you have been

1126
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: using it? Like every team is trying against these guys

1127
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: because they are susceptible. Is it the duo concept? Zone rush,

1128
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: the wide zone? I mean, what are teams doing that

1129
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: has allowing them to rush on these guys? I mean

1130
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: every team seems to run it a little differently, But

1131
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: do they all kind of gravitate towards one philosophy?

1132
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 15: Well, they're they're a if you're in base okay, and

1133
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 15: you know, we'll see what the Bills decide to do.

1134
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 15: And by the way, what's Kincaid's issue is is he

1135
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 15: gonna play or is he still out.

1136
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Don't know yet, but he is practicing this week on

1137
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: a limited basis, so it's kind of a wait and see.

1138
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 15: Okay, you know, obviously that could dictate you know, what

1139
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 15: their their personnel packages are of the game. But you know,

1140
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 15: when they play bass the Rams, that is, they're basically

1141
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 15: a five to two front. They play with you know,

1142
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 15: three interior guys. Sometimes it's kind of a bear front

1143
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 15: where they're all tight, and sometimes it could be spread

1144
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 15: out a little more, but it's a five to two front.

1145
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 15: So you know, teams are going to run zone concepts

1146
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 15: against them. You know, I think you'll you'll definitely see

1147
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 15: some gap scheme as well, because you can get those

1148
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 15: angle leverage blocks. I mean, you can kick out the

1149
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 15: widest defender on the line of scrimmage, whether that be

1150
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 15: young or verse or sometimes it's hecked hoyd excuse me.

1151
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 15: So I think you've seen multiple run game concepts against them,

1152
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 15: depending on the personnel. One thing they've really gravitated toward

1153
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 15: over the last four or five weeks is when they

1154
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 15: go they play some big nickel. Now that's become a

1155
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 15: big part of what they do with the rookie kinchins

1156
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 15: from the University of Miami playing as the third safety.

1157
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 15: So he's the third safety with Curl and Lake, and

1158
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 15: by the way, a really intriguing player because Lake kind

1159
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 15: of is it can play the slot, he can play

1160
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 15: on the back end, he can blitz in some ways.

1161
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 15: Lake is a lot like Brian Branch of the Detroit Lions,

1162
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 15: who's a terrific player, but that kind of versatility. So

1163
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 15: they play a lot of big nickel. For instance, last

1164
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 15: week against the Saints. Of course, the Saints played a

1165
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 15: large majority of the game in some form of base personnel.

1166
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 15: They did not play one snap of what you'd call

1167
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 15: conventional nickel where they actually played with three true corners.

1168
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 15: So Witherspoon, who's their third corner, did not play one

1169
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 15: snap last week and he.

1170
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 5: Was active well.

1171
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 15: So I think it's on the outside, believe it or not,

1172
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 15: at the corner position where you probably feel like you

1173
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 15: can attack them now as long as you can protect.

1174
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 15: I think you feel like you can attack them on

1175
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 15: the outside versus Williams and Durant.

1176
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I was going to ask.

1177
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: If they go big nickel, that's still not fully committed

1178
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: to being big and heavy and stopping the run. I

1179
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: mean they're just no, they're a little bit like Buffalo

1180
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: in that respect, right.

1181
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I mean they these are as the season

1182
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 15: has evolved. As you know, Steve, teams make adjustments based

1183
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 15: on personnel and how they feel they played best as

1184
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 15: the season progresses, and they've made these two changes. They

1185
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 15: play big nickel and then they're a heavy dime team

1186
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 15: on third down heavy dime. They bring in Jalen McCullough

1187
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 15: who's about six feet two oh five and he's their dime.

1188
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 15: So for instance, they very often played dime with four

1189
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 15: safeties and Lake in a sense becomes their slock corner.

1190
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 15: So that's what they've done a lot. We'll see what

1191
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 15: they do this week because, as I said, Witherspoon is

1192
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 15: normally their third corner, but he didn't play a snap

1193
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 15: last week.

1194
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: And then with respect to those outside corners, you know

1195
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: that that was gonna be my next question. You kind

1196
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: of touched on it already. What has it been that

1197
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: has made them so vulnerable? Is it a skill set

1198
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: issue where they just don't have the strength to hold

1199
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: up in one on one matchups or are they being

1200
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: out on islands to a degree and it's backfired. What

1201
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: has been your general review of why they've been victimized

1202
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: from time to time on the outside.

1203
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you're dealing with the fact that it's tough.

1204
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 15: Williams is a feisty, competitive kid, but he's small. And again,

1205
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 15: they're playing what they think is best based on their personnel,

1206
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 15: and it's not for me to say they're right or wrong.

1207
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 15: They know their players better than I and they're playing

1208
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 15: the best players that they feel fit what they do.

1209
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 15: But I think Williams at his core is a slot corner.

1210
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 15: I don't think he has enough size to really match

1211
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 15: up on the on the perimeter, and as tough and

1212
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 15: competitive as he is, which you love, I think that

1213
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 15: he can be beat on the outside.

1214
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: They don't.

1215
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 15: And Durant is also probably best as a slot corner.

1216
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 15: So to me, they have two slot corners Brownie playing

1217
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 15: on the outside. Neither one you'd call sudden, neither one

1218
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 15: you'd call twitchy.

1219
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: They're not.

1220
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 15: They're not on the plus side of athletic for what

1221
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 15: you want for outside corners in the NFL.

1222
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: So give us a give us an idea. What's the

1223
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: vibe coming out of l A. I mean they're in

1224
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: a they are in a division race, nobody's running off

1225
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: and leaving it. Only one of these teams from the

1226
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: West is gonna make it to the playoffs because of

1227
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: the record of all of them and what's going on

1228
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: to the rest of the conference. Uh, the Rams are

1229
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: within striking distance easily with given the five games left. Uh,

1230
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: how do you how do you see this division shaken out?

1231
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: I mean that they got the nice win last week

1232
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: against the Saints, but they've still got some work to do.

1233
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think in an ideal world, Steve and it

1234
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 15: didn't happen last week at all, and they actually had

1235
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 15: to come back even though they were never behind big.

1236
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 15: I think in an ideal world, they would like to

1237
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 15: be one of those teams that jumps on you and

1238
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 15: gets ahead of you and then can rush the quarterback,

1239
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 15: because that's what they do best on defense, is rush

1240
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 15: the quarterback. Because they're their past rush front is verse

1241
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 15: and young on the edge, and they've got Fisk and Turner,

1242
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 15: and Turner is a really good football player on the inside,

1243
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 15: and they are very multiple with their front looks. They

1244
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 15: stunt a ton if they make it really difficult on

1245
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 15: your protection. I think that's the way they'd like to play.

1246
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 15: They'd like to be able to get ahead and then

1247
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 15: let those guys, you know, turn them loose as it were.

1248
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 15: You know, I'm not going to compare them to the

1249
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 15: old school Colts with Manning, Peyton Manning, but I think

1250
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 15: that style is I think what they'd like it to be.

1251
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 15: But they just haven't been consistent enough on offense. And

1252
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 15: I think, Brownie, you made a great point. Their old

1253
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 15: line has been a big issue and that's been hurting

1254
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 15: them and being able to do what they want to

1255
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 15: do and I think need to do to be more consistent.

1256
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 15: But they do have people back now. Although Avil had

1257
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 15: left guard who was the second round pick a few

1258
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 15: years ago, he struggled quite a bit now. I don't

1259
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 15: know if he's you know, came back too early. I

1260
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 15: don't know, but because I really liked the kid coming

1261
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 15: out and I thought he was good as a rookie,

1262
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 15: but he's struggled a bit and they and they've really

1263
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 15: struggled at the tackle position. So the old line just

1264
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 15: has not been able to hold up. And Stafford is

1265
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 15: a quarterback, you know, he needs the old line to

1266
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 15: hold up.

1267
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: You know, to your point of how they would like

1268
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: to play, the biggest problem is they've scored twenty points

1269
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: all season in the first quarter. It's thirtieth in a

1270
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: league yeap, so they can't get up on people. Now,

1271
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: one guy, one guy who has been able to score

1272
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: for them is DeMarcus Robinson. Now this is probably partially

1273
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: due to the fact that the Kua and Cup miss time,

1274
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: but I feel like now with those two guys back

1275
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: in the lineup, he's taking advantage of a lot of

1276
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: one on one matchups against arguably an opponent's third best corner.

1277
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: Is that what we're seeing there with him and his success.

1278
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 15: To some degree, I mean they do face a lot

1279
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 15: his own mcveigh's phenomenal in his route concepts and route

1280
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 15: design versus zone the spacing. I mean you're now in

1281
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 15: the next two weeks going to see two teams that,

1282
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 15: in terms of routes spacing in their combinations are as

1283
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 15: good as there is in the league. I mean, these

1284
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 15: guys do such a great job against zone because, as

1285
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 15: you guys know, defenders on the back end that they

1286
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 15: have more than one thing to do in their zone responsibility.

1287
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 15: There's always a little bit of conflict in gray area.

1288
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 15: These are two teams that do such a great job

1289
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 15: of exploiting that. And the other point that you have

1290
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 15: to be really aware of, and it'll be on Milano

1291
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 15: and Bernard in this game, is they are heavy heavy

1292
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 15: play action with Stafford under center. Again, the Lions are

1293
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 15: as well, so two weeks in ago, they're going to

1294
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 15: be facing the same kind of thing, but they're really

1295
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 15: heavy play action with Stafford under center, and they're good

1296
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 15: at it. So you know, you have to be really

1297
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 15: aware of Milano and Bernard in particular that Hey, you know,

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Speaker 15: you just have to understand what you're looking at. It's

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Speaker 15: you know, that's a homework thing during the week. You

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Speaker 15: have to really understand offensive linemen and how they react

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Speaker 15: because if you start flying up there and creating that

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Speaker 15: big void between the second level and the third level,

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Speaker 15: that's where they really hurt you.

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Speaker 3: In the past game, how do most defenses and Buffaloes included,

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Speaker 3: how do you how do they usually try and handle

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Speaker 3: Nakua and cup.

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Speaker 15: I think you see more zone than Man for the

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Speaker 15: for the simple reason Steve that there's so many cut splits,

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Speaker 15: and as you know, it's hard to really play man

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Speaker 15: against all those cut splits, you know, so and and

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Speaker 15: corners outside corners are not used to playing man. When

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Speaker 15: a wide receiver is, you know, four yards away from

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Speaker 15: the offensive tackle, you know, that's not really the way

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Speaker 15: they're used to playing man coverage. So you tend to

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Speaker 15: see a lot more zone where corners are playing with

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Speaker 15: width and depth because so you see, you know, and

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Speaker 15: that's really what helps them in their out concepts because

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Speaker 15: they can run those all those zone beater combinations that

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Speaker 15: are so difficult.

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Speaker 2: Last one, Greg, I know, Man Milana is a guy

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Speaker 2: you like watching. He was back in the lineup last week,

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Speaker 2: had five tackles. Coach mcdermot's assessment was he felt he

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Speaker 2: got better as the game went on.

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Speaker 1: What did you what did you see on tape?

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Speaker 15: Well, unfortunately, Brownie, I wish that the visuals and my

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Speaker 15: eyesight got better as the game went on, because it

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Speaker 15: was kind of tough to watch that game on tape.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I'm just being honest. It was really hard

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Speaker 15: for me to get a feel. I mean, I'd love

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Speaker 15: to make it up, but you know that's with the

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Speaker 15: coaching tape we have seeing it from a distance when

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Speaker 15: the weather's like that, it was just hard. But you know,

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Speaker 15: I love Milano. He'll be better this week, obviously, whether

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Speaker 15: it won't be an issue. You know, I think he's

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Speaker 15: a really important player in this game because I think

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Speaker 15: there's a savvy to him. I think there's an intelligence

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Speaker 15: to him and awareness of how to play. I think

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Speaker 15: he'll be really really good in dealing with their their

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Speaker 15: play action pass game. I don't think he'll get stuck. So,

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Speaker 15: you know, I would expect him to really be an

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Speaker 15: important player in this game, and he'll understand their route concepts. So,

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Speaker 15: you know, I find this game really intriguing because I know,

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Speaker 15: as you said, the Rams they're only six and six,

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Speaker 15: but they've won five of their last seven. But it's

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Speaker 15: a difficult offense to defend. And unless you can pressure

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Speaker 15: the quarterback, and they may be able to do that,

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Speaker 15: you know that that's that's the deal. You got to

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Speaker 15: You gotta be able to pressure Stafford.

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, thanks as always, appreciate it. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with you next week.

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Speaker 15: All right, guys, thanks so much.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Co Sales senior producer from NFL Films joining us as

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Speaker 2: he does every Friday here.

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Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live. Yeah. See that's the thing.

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01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: Like I've had a lot of fans chirping back at

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01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: me on Twitter because I don't know. They feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm talking up the Rams too much this week on

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: the show, and I'm just like, you got one of

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01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: the best design coaches in football, and Sean McVeigh drawn

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: this thing up. You got a guy who can still

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: sling it in Matt Stafford, and he's got receiver talent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's your past probably.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your pass rush has got to get home at

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: least a cut once or twice. You got to get

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01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: put the guy off his spot, and you got to

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Speaker 3: watch out for the play action with these guys.

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Speaker 1: I think this team is better than a six and

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Speaker 1: six record.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the Bills were at the current point they are.

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Speaker 3: You know, they were one and four to start the season,

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: and that's the hole they're still digging out of. They

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Speaker 3: do a lot of things really well. They do a

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Speaker 3: lot of things really well, so you know they're not

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 3: gonna they're not going to fold up. So I yeah,

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot to worry about what the Rams it

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: may turn out to, you know, be you know, a

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 3: game like we've seen so many this year where the Bills,

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Speaker 3: you know they're going to hang thirty to forty points

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: on them and they're not gonna be able to keep

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01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 3: up for some reason. But you still, you know, I mean,

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: they've got some really talented players, particularly on offense and

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Speaker 3: the defensive front.

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Speaker 2: We're still taking your phone calls in the OBL Friday

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: fan mail bag at eight oh three zero five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty.

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: But let's crack.

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Speaker 2: Open the mail bag on the Twitter side of things,

1390
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 2: and Jacob asks structured laterals within an offensive game plan

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: would be near impossible to stop and worth the risk

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01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,560
Speaker 2: hook and lateral type plays. Why don't more teams incorporate

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Speaker 2: plays like this, especially in must win games or win trail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can get behind a little of that.

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Speaker 3: But if you watch that play, even the funky play

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Speaker 3: that Josh scored on when Amari Cooper lateraled him the

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 3: ball this last week, that ball is almost on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Malik Mustafa almost Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that's it's hard to make those plays work. The

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Speaker 3: timing is impossible to get right. It's a free wheeling play,

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: and it's hard enough to get one guy open in

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 3: the NFL, let alone two guys open that one can

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: run behind the other and and you know, be open

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: enough and imposition enough to make the catch. And I'll

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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: say this too, and I don't want to generalize, but

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Speaker 3: I am an old guy, and the old school coach

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 3: will tell you you're not gonna put the ball at

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Speaker 3: risk like that. You start tossing it around backwards and forwards.

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 3: All of a sudden you later it to your buddy

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01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: and he's thinking you're not going to later it to him, right,

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 3: or he thinks you're going to later it to him

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 3: and you're going to try and score, and he doesn't

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 3: throw the block it would allow you to score because

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: he thinks you're going to give it to him. All

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Speaker 3: of that stuff. Uh, there's just too much uncertainty. And

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: once you start latering it, it becomes an instinct play,

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 3: not a planned play. And once you do one lateral,

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: even if it's planned, everything else after that is a crapshoot.

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01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: So you can't really plan further than that. That's why

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Speaker 3: coaches don't do it. I think that's why it's not

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Speaker 3: a more. But I will agree with you when it's

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Speaker 3: the last play of the game and you got to

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Speaker 3: do this lateral thing. I don't know why you have

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01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 3: offensive linemen on the field. You should have. You should

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 3: have eleven athletes out there and they should all just

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01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: rub their chest to hey, I'm eligible or ineligible, and

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 3: here we go. So that's what I would do too.

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: I agree with you, and that's the same thing I

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: would do on hail Mary attempts. I would put the

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: tallest guys on the field. I would put the I

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: would rush the passer with five and put six guys

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: back in the end zone. And they all they're all

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: going to be six five plus and they're all going

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01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: to cheat to win. So I'm and that's what I do.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you on the Hail Mary. In the

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Speaker 3: end of game stuff.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside for a break here, but

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01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls when we come back here.

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01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: On an obl Friday fan mail bag edition of One

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, We're back in a moment.

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01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: Stay with us.

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01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: Tail Game Friday is presented by high Mark, Blue Cross

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01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: Blue Shield. High Mark is the official healthcare plan of

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills.

1445
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: Because life, Let's see what you got.

1446
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: Cooking up this weekend for Bills at Rams Jack Scotts

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: with the boys away and the start at for twenty five.

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: I think this week I'm gonna head to a.

1449
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: Certain Lancaster pub for game and halftime buffet, so I'm

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: at their mercy. But before the missus and I head out,

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fix a wholesome breakfast avocado toast on rye

1452
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:32,959
Speaker 2: with poached eggs and Canadian bacon. John says, smoked brisket,

1453
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: pulled pork, and finger sandwiches galore with bison dip and

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01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: caeso to Monchon score prediction thirty five thirteen go bills.

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: Gotta get started early on that smoke brisket, but with

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: a four to twenty five start, he is golden.

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01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good stuff, because what do.

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01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: You usually smoke brisket for about fifteen hours?

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 3: Something like it's overnight anyway, right, Yeah, I think it's

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 3: about fifteen hours. Just leave it.

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, pulled forth too awesome? My goodness.

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: Can I come over with a gallon of barbecue so yummy?

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? No I can't. I'll be in La.

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01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: That's right, You're gonna be in La.

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01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 1: Not an option for me. So that is tailgate Friday.

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: The menu items get shorter when the road games are

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 2: People are more amped to tell us what they're cooking

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: up on the grills.

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: When they got a home game coming up.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but thank you for those submissions. Those sound delicious.

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: We do have to get back to the phones on

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: this OBL Friday fan mailbag edition of the show, and

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01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: waiting the longest here. Who we're going to go to

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: next is Scott in Williamsville.

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: What do you got for a Scott?

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01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 16: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'll be quick kind

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 16: of just wanted to touch real briefly on your topic yesterday.

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01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 16: For me, it's really the coordinators. You know, it's funny

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 16: last week all my time in football is the first

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01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 16: time I heard anyone say and it was on who

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 16: said the coordinators have the hardest job. And I just

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 16: think that, you know, with Bobby Babbage first year and

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 16: Brady's first full year, it's just been amazing. And I

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01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 16: know it's easy to look at offense, but you got

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 16: to get the ball to the offense to put up

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01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 16: thirty plus points all these weeks, and you know, I

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01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 16: just think and Brady's done a great job with Actually,

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01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 16: you know, less is more when it comes to Josh

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 16: and look at the results and Steve, you know, I

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Speaker 16: had season tickets twenty seven years sitting right in front

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 16: of the Ralph and section al one. I just remember

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 16: maybe close at halftime, but whatever, wal Cordy, did you

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01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 16: know you guys would shut him out in the second

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 16: half consistently during those years. And so that's my one

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 16: comment and then my question for you, Steve. You know,

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Speaker 16: it certainly looks like it's maybe a perfect storm. I mean,

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 16: the Chiefs are gettaball, the Ravens are wobbling, Cincinnati's completely

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 16: out of it, and obviously defenses are having success against Stroud.

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Speaker 16: I'm just curious, with everything that's going in our way,

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Speaker 16: what was the pressure like in Super Bowl going into

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01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 16: Super Bowl maybe three and four? And because I just

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 16: think we have it all going this year, so I'll

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01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 16: just listen to your comments.

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Super Bowls were all a little bit different.

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: We had different group of guys. There was ten to

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Speaker 3: fifteen new faces and a lot of guys contributing, so

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: it was a little bit different vibe every year. That

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Speaker 3: the one Super Bowl that had a ton a ton

1510
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: of pressure on our team was the second one. After

1511
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: going wide right in the first one and being such

1512
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 3: a good football team, we felt, you know, we had

1513
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: to get back. So at the end of that season,

1514
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: we had guys practicing, you know, when they had the flu,

1515
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 3: they were sick, they were hurt, they were injured. Nobody

1516
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 3: missed a day of work. I mean, everybody was showing up.

1517
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,919
Speaker 3: Nobody was taking a day off. The pressure was really

1518
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 3: really oppressive on that team to get back to the

1519
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in Minneapolis after that the third and fourth one.

1520
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 3: And I was telling Brownie this the other day. One

1521
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 3: of the things that happens now. And I think this

1522
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 3: team is there in some regard as well their level,

1523
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: although it's a little different for this team because they

1524
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: have so many new faces. You get to the point

1525
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 3: where you're so excellent for so long and your process

1526
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: that McDermott likes to talk about, your process is so

1527
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 3: polished and so good that the floor of what you're

1528
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 3: willing to accept week to week gets raised and raised

1529
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 3: and raised so pretty soon. And this is the case

1530
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: of those last two Super Bowl teams we had. We

1531
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 3: practiced so efficient, we were humming. I mean, nobody did

1532
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: anything that wasn't excellent in their preparation because we had.

1533
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: Done it so long.

1534
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: It's just something you did. So I think that's where

1535
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: this team has kind of elevated itself to as well

1536
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: as particularly Josh and these guys on the offense, and

1537
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,879
Speaker 3: they've been doing it so well for so long. Excellence

1538
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 3: is the only thing that they know, so there isn't

1539
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 3: any But you know, there isn't any of those guys.

1540
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 3: There isn't any of that stuff going on. And some

1541
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: of these other teams I think are there too. So

1542
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 3: I think that's what I see in this team that.

1543
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 1: The what they're.

1544
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 3: Willing to accept as acceptable level of effort and intelligence

1545
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 3: and preparation and game planning and film studying, the level

1546
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 3: of which they're willing to accept is so high right now.

1547
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: It shows on the field. I've set it time and

1548
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 3: time again. You win these games Monday through Saturday. For

1549
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: a Sunday one o'clock game, you win the thing on

1550
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 3: the six days that lead up to it, and the

1551
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: game day is just the evidence of it.

1552
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: Indeed, let's go to bar in Cheek to organ X.

1553
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: What's up Barry?

1554
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: Hi?

1555
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 14: You doing guys? Nice talking to you? Okay? I just

1556
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 14: wanted to say the ladder let Josh received from Cooper

1557
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 14: in that game? What did rund you guys have? Can

1558
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 14: you think of anything real quick?

1559
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 17: No?

1560
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: What about you?

1561
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 14: When I first saw it. It reminded me the Houston

1562
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 14: Playoff Grand game when Josh was waiting to throw that

1563
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 14: ball to eighty eight or somebody there, one of the

1564
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 14: tight ends and he and he wasn't paying attention and

1565
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 14: it went off and the you know, would have been

1566
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 14: a touchdown.

1567
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's where Josh tried to ladder it

1568
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 3: to Dawson and that was something that was not something

1569
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: they had their antenna up for.

1570
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. That was an ad lib all the way.

1571
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's why I wasn't paying attention at all.

1572
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 14: His head was straight ahead and the ball just went out.

1573
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 14: But not but Josh has that backyard football works. Yeah, yeah,

1574
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 14: I really agree with it. But the nationwide that the

1575
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 14: whole country just laughed or you know what's off over

1576
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 14: I thought that I'm a great thing about it worked

1577
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 14: and in the game with Casey, whose decision you think

1578
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 14: it was to run it in for the winning touchdown

1579
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 14: instead of just getting the first down, belichief out, sorry,

1580
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 14: Belichick said that Josh was not spied on and only

1581
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 14: that play in the whole game, right, he ran what

1582
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 14: do you think it was, Josh or Sean?

1583
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: That was?

1584
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 3: You mean the fourth that was? That was a play

1585
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: that they were gonna throw it. Yeah, they were just

1586
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: trying to get the first down and Josh pulled it down.

1587
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: They crossed up the play. And this has been talked

1588
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 3: about a lot. The Bills had a man call on

1589
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 3: They thought the defense was going to be manned a man.

1590
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 3: It was not, So there was a they got crossed

1591
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: up right there at the snap when Josh dropped back.

1592
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 3: They still had a way to complete a pass, but

1593
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 3: it was gonna have to be a different type and

1594
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: different option. The Rams did not put a spy on

1595
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: Josh on that defense. He saw it, knew he could

1596
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: get the first down with his legs, and then the

1597
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 3: rest is just ten.

1598
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: So that was all.

1599
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: That was not supposed to be a fourth and two

1600
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 3: twenty six yard run for Josh Allen. It was supposed

1601
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: to be a fourth and two pass for a first down.

1602
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1603
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dennis in North Carolina. What's up Dennis?

1604
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 17: Hey? When always joice in the forty nine Ers game.

1605
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 17: I see number eighty nine recover of fuff them that

1606
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 17: that ball in my mind, I like, Hey, there's Steve Tasker,

1607
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 17: my nother Steve on the field. By I tell my wife,

1608
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 17: I like He's been like one of my favorite players

1609
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 17: of all time. And you know, but anyways, uh do

1610
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 17: you think Brandon Bean it?

1611
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 9: Uh?

1612
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 17: Well due show free figured old contracts because Bibby lose

1613
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 17: a lot of players that year. And what do you

1614
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 17: think that Buffalo needs to to get over the hump

1615
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 17: him and their super Bowl this year?

1616
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: Uh?

1617
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for first of all, Dennis. As far

1618
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: as free agents, it's mostly veteran players that are coming up.

1619
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Obviously Amari Cooper, who.

1620
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: Was a mid season acquisition, his contract is up, Rasseull

1621
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: Douglas's contract is up, Dewan Smoot's contract, Mac Hollins, Austin Johnson,

1622
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: Reed Ferguson's contract is up, Damar Hamlin's contract is up.

1623
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: So there'll be a healthy number of players. I don't

1624
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: know that there are too many major frontline players. Obviously

1625
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 2: Douglas is a starter, Cooper's a starter, Hamlin's a starter

1626
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: right now, but there are I would argue there are

1627
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: more role players hitting unrestricted free agency than frontline players.

1628
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: So and they'll have money to spend. I mean, they

1629
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: endured a restrictive cat burden this year, so they would

1630
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 2: have more money next year. And they do have to

1631
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: think about signing some of their young vets to long

1632
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: term deals like Greg Russeau, a Christian Benford, a Terrell Bernard.

1633
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: These are guys that are going to be here long term,

1634
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: and you have to think about long term extensions for them.

1635
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: All right.

1636
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 3: The Bills are sitting on sixty nine sixty nine million

1637
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: plus dollars of dead cap space this year that will

1638
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 3: come back on the books at the start of free

1639
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 3: agency or at the beginning of the new league year

1640
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 3: at February thirteenth or something whatever it is, or February fifteenth,

1641
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: something that goes back on the books and they start

1642
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 3: with a clean slate for the cap with sixty nine

1643
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 3: million dollars. Now they'll have some of that, Some of

1644
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: the cap will already be allocated to guys whose contracts

1645
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: are going to go going forward. But you can bet

1646
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 3: it's going to be another year next year with a

1647
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 3: lot of new faces. I think it'll be really telling,

1648
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,839
Speaker 3: and you may not know it until you finish this season.

1649
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Some of the like for instance, some hypothetically like Amari

1650
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: Cooper comes here, they do and everything happens for him,

1651
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 3: They did, they win. It's all happens exactly like the

1652
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: Bills want it to. Amari Cooper might be enticed to,

1653
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: like say, Okay, can you make me an offer? I'd

1654
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: love to stay. I love it here. This has been

1655
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 3: better than anything I've had. Da da da Can you

1656
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: do it? Same thing with other players as well. But

1657
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: like Brownie said, there's a couple of guys on this

1658
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: roster Rousseau, Benford Bernard to be most notable that you'd think. Man,

1659
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 3: they're probably going to tie those guys up to a

1660
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: long term deal. And there's been a lot of talk

1661
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 3: about redoing Josh Allen's deal, so they'll probably do that too,

1662
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 3: because I think he's getting a payment this year that

1663
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: they need probably to spread out.

1664
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: The Friday injury report is out for the Bills and

1665
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 2: it looks like Taylor rap and Curtis Samuel are good

1666
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 2: to go. They had been limited in practice through the

1667
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: course of the week, although Samuel was a full participant today.

1668
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 2: Everyone else is questionable, including Quinton Morris, Dalton Kincaid, Keon Coleman,

1669
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: and the two players that are still on injured reserve

1670
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: as of right now, Duwayne Carter and Tyland Grable.

1671
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: The rookie offensive tackle.

1672
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: So we'll see if decisions are made on the two

1673
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: ir players and whether either of them are lifted to

1674
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: the active fifty three man roster, but Kincaid Coleman, who

1675
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: have not played for the last few weeks, both questionable

1676
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: for Sunday's game, along with tight end Quintin Morris. We

1677
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: have to take a break here. One final segment to

1678
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: go here on one Bills Live, Stay.

1679
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 6: With Us.

1680
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 2: Vision to Victory presented by a Wall eye Care, the

1681
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: official eye care provider.

1682
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: Of the Buffalo Bills.

1683
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: This one, to me seems relatively straightforward. Not that it's

1684
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 2: going to be easy necessarily, but the Rams are a

1685
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: notoriously slow team out of the gate. They've scored only

1686
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 2: twenty points in the first quarter all season long, that

1687
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: is thirtieth in the league. They have the thirty first

1688
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: rank points differential in the first quarter minus forty nine.

1689
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: So the Bills offense, it would behoove them to get

1690
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: the running game going early, get off to a good

1691
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: start on their opening drive, put some points on the board,

1692
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: and then you render the Rams ability to get ahead

1693
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: and use their pass rush defensively against you.

1694
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you shortened the game. You run it

1695
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: right at them and you force them to bear up

1696
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: against the run. They rush the passer extremely well. They

1697
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 3: have struggled to stop the run.

1698
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: That's it.

1699
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: You hit them where it hurts and you don't let up,

1700
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 3: and then you concentrate on staying ahead of the sticks

1701
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 3: and converting third downs. You gotta stay on the field offensively.

1702
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: If you can do that, they will run out of

1703
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 3: opportunities to win the game.

1704
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, the Bills have gotten at

1705
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 2: least one takeaway in every game this season. We would

1706
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 2: anticipate that to continue. Based on the way in which

1707
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: they play nowadays. I mean they're almost less concerned with

1708
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 2: making a form tackle than they are with punching the

1709
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: ball out. I mean Taylor Rapp is the perfect example

1710
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: of that. Last week against the Niners, Kyle Yuschek is

1711
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: running straight at him and he comes up and he

1712
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: goes to punch the ball out instead of tackling him. Now,

1713
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: there was a linebacker I think it was Milano that

1714
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: was already starting to wrap him up, so it afforded

1715
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: him the opportunity to go for the punch. But the

1716
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 2: ball comes out and Christian Benford's running the other way.

1717
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: I would expect the same approach against this rams offense.

1718
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 3: As would I offensively running at him. Defensively turn out

1719
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 3: some turnovers. A couple extra possessions would go a long

1720
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 3: way and just strangle the life out of this game.

1721
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune into our streaming channels to catch

1722
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Steve and Maddie with the Bill's postgame show. We will

1723
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: be back to talk about everything on Monday at noon.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you there, m