00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to be empty, and I said, no guests, your. 00:00:28 Speaker 2: Presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I hope you're doing well. I let's say, by the time this is airing, I imagine you'll have settled into a fall look. If you haven't, I advise you to do so, or just move on to planning a winter look. Or at this point you've probably fallen so far behind you might as well just spring into a spring planning for your spring look. I don't know what to tell you. I don't care, I really, I just want to introduce. Our guests are wonderful, so funny, just a joy Anna fabreca Anna, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. Hi, thank you for having me. How are you? I'm good? 00:01:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, all things considered. 00:01:36 Speaker 3: You're uh are you? I'm doing okay. I woke up at about six am, I you know, did a little rising rise and grind. I woke up, I had my breakfast I read a little from my book, I did my exercises, I corresponded to this one on Craigslist. I a little coffee, and I just moved into a new place. So there's a lot of you know, moving things about and trying to get things right. The internet wasn't working. Now the internet's hopefully working through the duration of this podcast sort of thing. And you're sitting there, you're are you currently in New York? 00:02:19 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:02:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're bathed in natural light. It looks like it's wonderful. 00:02:24 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I actually I'm right in front of I have my desk at my window, and I close my blinds whenever I do things like this because otherwise I'm get completely blown out because there's so much natural light that enters. 00:02:37 Speaker 3: Oh, well, good for you for just having a NonStop natural light. It's what two o'clock there, Yeah, a little after Okay, what have you been doing today? 00:02:46 Speaker 2: You know? 00:02:46 Speaker 4: My morning was very similar yours, except where it started at about seven point thirty. I had coffee, I read a little, I went for a run, I ate breakfast, and then I went to cancel my gym membership, which I had been trying to do since the pandemic started, but you can only cancel it in person, and gyms. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: Were closed up until today. 00:03:08 Speaker 4: Today was the first day that they were opening, and the only way you can cancel is either in person or sending certified mail to the gym. However, since the gyms are closed, no one's going to be there to received certified mail. So I was like, you know what, I'll just wait until it's ready. I know that this gym is kind of notorious for being impossible to cancel, and I spoke to someone on the phone this morning that told me, yes, you can come in and cancel. However you have to pay an exit fee, and you have this is a forty five day notice, so you will be charged this month and next month plus an exit fee. And I was like, okay, but I was charged. There was this whole thing because the gym was charging people still when gyms were required to be closed. So I was like, well, I've got these charges and she's like, yeah, that's going to be a credit towards this time. And you know what, the dates actually aligned just right, where like the March and April charges you got will cover this forty five day period. Okay, but I was charged for September too, and she's like, there's nothing I can do about that. She's like, I can't do any refunds on my end. I was like, who can I talk to about getting like a recent for September And she was like, you can talk to corporate, but just they don't. 00:04:25 Speaker 3: Issue refunds as a rule. Rule as a rule. 00:04:29 Speaker 4: And I'm going into this conversation with the gym knowing that there is a class action lawsuit against them. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: I'm just going to how is there not already a class action lawsuit? 00:04:39 Speaker 4: Yes, there is a lawsuit against So I'm just like waiting for the charge to stop pending on my credit card so that I can call the bank and have them bound. 00:04:48 Speaker 3: So it's so. 00:04:49 Speaker 4: Boring all of that information crazy, But you know, Sports Club New York. 00:04:55 Speaker 3: New York Sports Club is a total I mean, how are the last six months of payments and not the exit fee already? That's so crazy. I know, Well, they. 00:05:03 Speaker 4: Stopped charging people in May, so I have March in April charges and yeah, God bless her and and so yeah, but anyone that wants to get out of it, like anyone that moved or anything, they have to do certified mail or go to the gym and person and cancel and still pay another two months. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: It's so stupid. 00:05:23 Speaker 4: But anyways, after that, I went to a couple of supermarkets and I'm trying to find the hemp protein powder that I use every morning. 00:05:30 Speaker 3: Oh, sold out everywhere. 00:05:32 Speaker 4: So I settled for some hemp seeds. And then I came back home and had lunched and read a little and now look. 00:05:40 Speaker 3: Here, this is lovely. So you're with the hemp protein. What are you Are you just putting it in water? Are you making a shake out of it? What are you doing straight in water? Yeah? 00:05:52 Speaker 4: I've put it in my oatmeal. 00:05:55 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, are you making? Is this an instant oatmeal or is it? Are you like doing an overnight This is an. 00:06:00 Speaker 4: Old fashioned but I do it. I do make it in the microwave. Oh no, I love steel cut, but I really hate washing a pot in the morning. 00:06:10 Speaker 2: You know. 00:06:10 Speaker 4: For lunch and dinner, that's fine. I'm happy and I always do wash a pot, but in the morning, I don't want to deal with it. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: No, you don't need one more thing in the morning. Yeah, No, I have my you know, my microwave a below Yeah, okay, And are you eating oatmeal every morning? I am? That sounds so wonderful, are you? 00:06:27 Speaker 4: It's literally the only thing I eat for breakfast for years? 00:06:30 Speaker 3: Is there? Are you putting fruit in it? Are you putting I. 00:06:33 Speaker 4: Put half a frozen banana in it, and then peanut butter or almond butter, and then my ha protein pod. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a beautiful dish. How long does that take prepare? I'm just eating a protein bar in the morning, but I think I could maybe spare an extra three minutes. 00:06:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it takes probably it takes a little over two minutes in the microwaves, plus two minutes of stirring and getting the consistency right, you know, right when within five minutes you're. 00:06:59 Speaker 3: Eating and you've got the strength to get on the phone with your gym and yeah, exactly all of that. So you found hemp seeds, is that right? Yeah? Yeah? 00:07:13 Speaker 4: And parts or whatever it's. 00:07:14 Speaker 3: Called hamp parts. No interesting hearts hearts like that feels oddly generous, hemp pieces, you know, hemp missile. Yeah. Well, that's a nice little time. Are you? Do you feel fairly well? Actually? New York is now kind of got it under control. Yes, yes and no, yes and no. 00:07:40 Speaker 4: I think people don't like to lax about how they're you know, going out and stuff like that. Like I'm yet to go to a restaurant or anywhere where I'm served. I have no desire to do that. But you know, all the bars or restaurants that are near me, when I walk by them, especially on weekends and stuff, they're like all outside and I'm like, what are you doing? You just like without masks, served by people with gloves and masks, and You're like, life is back to normal. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: That's so wild to me. People forget what a virus is every five minutes and it's I know, I know, I know. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: And in La it's I mean, you guys are are more lockdown than we are. 00:08:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we opened for about four minutes in June and then we saw the consequences of it, and yeah, I've locked down a little bit, and now were it feels like it's I mean, I think people are just like I mean, people just don't understand. They're like tired of it, and so they just decide, I'm tired of it, so now the virus doesn't affect me. So you see, like restaurants like the sidewalk is packed with people. And my series just started because I said restaurants, and now it's trying. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: You're a handful of restaurants that are open. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: Where can I get the virus? Yeah, it's it seems like it like we're leveling out again, but of course that doesn't mean anything because the virus still exists. And yeah, hopefully we'd learned our lesson last time, but there's a good chance we didn't, and we'll just keep going back and forth. 00:09:08 Speaker 4: And back, back and forth, I know, until there's a vaccine. I think people are like, I just don't understand why you would rather do this back and forth instead of just like really locked down for like a solid three weeks and just begun with that. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: I know. 00:09:20 Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me. Yeah, we'll just have zero patients. It's wild. And you're of course, when I have a guest so that I've never met before, I do, you know, thirty to forty seconds of research and discovered you're from Arizona. We're in Arizona. I grew up in Scottsdale, Okay, And what's the situation there. I feel like that was like the just Arizona in general, was a nightmare from the yeah, continue, Yeah. 00:09:47 Speaker 4: Because they really didn't lock down soon enough and they didn't force masks to be worn. It was all kind of like it was what's the word, people. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Were encouraged to wear masks wired? Okay, nought up. 00:10:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, And now it's more under control. They've come down a bit. Things are reopening again. But I mean, I think. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: It's the same. 00:10:12 Speaker 4: It's like every place that's getting better. It's not like it's totally fine. It's just better than it was. 00:10:19 Speaker 3: And do you still have a lot of family in Arizona? 00:10:21 Speaker 4: I do. 00:10:22 Speaker 3: I have a brother, a sister and my parents in Arizona. Okay, do you get back often or what? 00:10:30 Speaker 4: I used to go once a year, But this year is not going to happen, right, iin gonna happen, not happening, Sorry, gonna happen this year. I don't want to get on. 00:10:41 Speaker 3: A plane, oh of course not. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:10:43 Speaker 3: I had a dream the other night that I was the only person on a plane and it was really alarming, and I started doing buying the plane ricks. No, the pilot was at the front and I was just kind of wandering around the back. It was very confusing and just made me feel strange. But that's probably as close as being a plane is. I'll get this year, yeah, and then. 00:11:02 Speaker 4: That's as close as I want to get to. 00:11:04 Speaker 3: I don't know much about Arizona. Scottsdale is isn't near Phoenix. It is that's not a Phoenix. 00:11:11 Speaker 4: Scott Stale is. I mean, I think the very cliche sort of ideas of scotts Stale that people have are like boat talk, retirees, wealth, there's a lot of like yeah, it's but it's a mix. 00:11:25 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:11:26 Speaker 4: I I moved there when I was in elementary school, and after I graduated high school, I moved to New York, right, And when I go back, I'm like a visit. 00:11:35 Speaker 3: But I mean, especially for me. 00:11:37 Speaker 4: Not a whole lot to do. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: Sure, Sure is anything in Arizona that you miss or enjoy? I mean it's really pretty right desert desert. I do like the desert and and my family, you know, but that's about it. 00:11:54 Speaker 4: I could never go back. If my family moved somewhere else, I'd be like, that's fine. 00:11:58 Speaker 3: Arizona could strive to get a third thing on that list, that would be yeah, Well, I you like first, like came onto my radar on the internet at least from a very specific thing a video of you air drumming to the replacements. This was like four or five years ago. And yeah, truly, I think one of like maybe four things on the internet that's just pure joy and it's I like occasionally once a quarter we'll still look it up and just think this is fantastic. People need to But I mean, you're a drummery, So do you do you enjoy air drumming outside of you know, putting yourself on that one video. 00:12:45 Speaker 4: I'll find out that one video. I don't really air drummer. 00:12:48 Speaker 3: You're so good at it, I could do it more. 00:12:53 Speaker 4: You know, there is a potential revenue stream there, but I feel like. 00:12:56 Speaker 3: That's a huge revenue. Stree is a big. 00:13:00 Speaker 4: And I only know about this because I have a friend who had just put in the door of this world of like air guitar competitions and. 00:13:07 Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Yeah, are there air drumming competitions. If there's air guitar, that's got to be air drums. I feel like air base a base. 00:13:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty chill. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Do you have drums in your apartment or anything? 00:13:25 Speaker 4: So, like about two years ago, I got like a tiny electronic kit to have it at home, and I was like, this will be great. I'll finally because I would go to a practice space like once a month, once every couple of months. Since I moved to New York, I haven't had a drum kit, and so I'll go long stretches of time without playing, and especially now like during COVID. So anyways, I got just a little kid thinking like, I'll be able to play at home. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: Now. 00:13:48 Speaker 4: This is great. And I don't know if you've heard an electronic kit, but it just sounds like, you know, it's kind of annoying, but it's just like tapping a lot of tapping. And so I'm playing in my living room and I'm having the time of my life. 00:14:03 Speaker 3: I'm plugging in music. 00:14:05 Speaker 4: And this was great. And then about like two weeks later, I get a message from my landlord saying that the neighbor is complaining about knowing it sounds like someone's jumping, and then I realized, like, oh, that's the kick pedal getting the floor right and driving my downstairs neighbor crazy and also just tapping. You know, I'm sure you can hear it in the hallway and next door. So I was like, okay, I'll stop playing. 00:14:29 Speaker 3: And then I was like, well, what can I do? 00:14:31 Speaker 4: Like maybe I'm just going to get something to put this on so that it like absorbs the vibrations and keeps it from going downstairs. So after doing some research, I find out about this like product called pylomer that's used when they're building like train tracks or subway rails and stuff like that through under underneath the. 00:14:51 Speaker 3: Buildings to keep it from vibrating. Oh my god. 00:14:54 Speaker 4: So I find a distributor in the Northeast. It's made in Europe, and I'm like, I'm going to find where I can buy this. And I contact this company and I tell the guy like, look, i'm not a commercial buyer. I want to put my drum kit on it. And he's and there was a YouTube video where someone did this. And the guy's like, it's so funny you called me because I've had drummers call me about this, and I want to make I want to talk to my boss about selling like having like an extra little sales stream to drummers of this product. And I was like that's great. He's like, I will, I'll build you a custom one, What dimensions do you need? And I'm like it's like about three by three and he's like, great, and we'll ship it to you. Long story short. 00:15:37 Speaker 3: After like six months. 00:15:38 Speaker 4: It's kind of like going back and forth with this guy checking in like, hey, just wondering when the riser's going to come. I just stopped hearing from him. I ended up leaving town for a while, and I'm like, okay, so, so my host of being able to play in my apartment has not really materialized the way I wanted. I will sit down and play for like a five minutes max, and I will not really the pads that loudly. I won't really hit the kicksitle loudly. And you can't play drums well lightly, like even just to go quickly, you have to be able to hit with four. And so, because I'm scared of of my neighbors getting upset, and I've talked to them about it and they're like, if you just like let me know when you're going to do it, Like it's. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: Fine, but I still feel like bad doing that I means for everybody. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: So I just like, don't. I really don't play all that often anymore. 00:16:28 Speaker 3: And this soundproofing salesman has just vanished. He's vanished. 00:16:32 Speaker 4: I still have his contact information on a lot of paper on my desk, and I was thinking, I was like, should I call this guy again? 00:16:39 Speaker 3: And he'll be like, wait, who are you? What did you? 00:16:41 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:16:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was the weirdest thing. That's like still weird thing to sort of like let someone like tease someone about like yeah, like to give me some you know, insulation phone basically, and he was like I would call on that for not hearing from him and not getting it delivered, you know, and he'd be like, yes, you know, it's actual. It's sitting in the hallway, like I just got to go to this department and have them do like a B and C and then I'll get it to you, you know. So it was always like, yes, I'm about to spend it, and I was like great. And he was giving you to me for free because he wanted me to be like a guinea pig. He's like, if I give it you for free, can you like give you like a review? And I was like yeah, of course. But so I also thought like I don't want to be too greedy or pushy and be like come on can't get me for freight now, but but I've never heard from him, So now I'm like wavisited this call and be like, hey, can I just like pay for this and you get it? 00:17:30 Speaker 3: Or is it? 00:17:30 Speaker 4: Or have they just you know, gotten rid of it because it was distorted in twenty eighteen. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: Oh, this is two years ago. This has been year. Yeah, this is a past life. Yeah, well who knows. I was going to say, maybe he's prepping like a shark tank tank pitch or something, but it's been a lot. He told me he could have been killed, yeh, fired, I know, died. 00:17:57 Speaker 4: Waiting. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Are you You're not in a band, are you? 00:18:01 Speaker 4: No? Not officially. I mean I have a couple of friends that I play music with and it's like kind of like a joke band, but we don't write music. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: We'll just like improvise. We'll play shows here and there. 00:18:10 Speaker 4: People will like book us and it's funny and we're just like sure, we'll go like, you know, mess around. But it's nothing like official. No curious rather. 00:18:19 Speaker 3: Well, what a shame about the whole drumming situation. I don't know what to tell you. I wish I had some sort of you know, I'm sitting here. I just moved into this place and I had to sound proof this room for this podcast, which people are probably right now saying he didn't sound proof it because I just got I got styrofoam out of a packing box and put it against the walls. For now, it looks that doesn't work. I'm just sitting amongst garbage right now. But I'm just. 00:18:45 Speaker 4: Taking garbage to the wall, thinking of getting quieter and quieter. 00:18:50 Speaker 3: Well, when I told my boyfriend that we were going to I was gonna put the cyrofoam in here, apparently he thought that I really was going to nail it to the walls, and he was okay with it, which makes me question everything I was. It's literally just pieces of sire. But now I know that if push comes to shove, I can nail garbage to the walls and he won't mind. So that's yeah. No, where did you move? I mean different spinal way. Yeah, I was in low speeds and now I'm in Highland Park, so yeah, I mean it was a whole you know, moving It's just the absolute worst. And did you do it yourself? We hired people and so I don't think we could have done it on our own. And then, yeah, it's it was a whole situation. We had movers, they came, and then we made the mistake of having somebody come measured the windows for shades on the day that the movers were coming. And this woman or her name was Gabriello, showed up right at the time that the mover showed up, and then she spent over three hours in our house measuring We're not in a big house, but somehow around the time, and she demanded my attention the entire time. I had no I didn't realize that any any thought had to be put into window coverings. And she spent over three hours and measuring the same windows, measuring the same windows. I think it's like eight windows, so it's not a lot of and then creating these calculations on this paper. And I'm meanwhile trying to tell the movers who are sweating and need help and direction. She keeps, you know, talking at me, and then she quoted me like eight thousand dollars and I'm not paying eight thousand dollars. So that was the end of Gabriella. And she got van and drove off and I'm now just you know, people can just look into the house and who knows what the next step will be. I never thought I would be considering any of this sort of thing, and so, but Gabrielle is out there, probably in someone's house right now, just spending for a while too. Yes, But speaking of moving and all this sort of thing, we moved a couple of weeks ago and I got an email, you know, for my producer, and she said, you're going to be a package is going to be arriving for you at your address. And I knew I was going to be moving prior to that, so I thought, okay, I'll just I don't know what this is. I know Manna's going to be on the podcast who knows? Who knows what's happening over there? So I drove back to my old apartment and I got there and there was this giant brown box which I picked up, brought back to my house and it's just been sitting in my closet until right now. And obviously you know this podcast is it's called I said, No Gifts, and I mean, I don't know what's happening in this box, but I assume it's from you. I mean I did. I ordered some counterstools and they delivered them the other day and I opened the box and instead of counterstools, they had sent me a four pound teaky head. So there's truly no telling what could be in that. But is it a lightweight box or it you? You know, it's like I would say, this is like, I'm going to pick it up here. Oh, it's lightweight for sure. It's probably a pound to two pounds. It's right here. I mean, and is is this a gift for me? Yeah? 00:22:24 Speaker 4: I mean I was told not to get you a gift, but I sub simply had it meant before it would be a nice gesture. 00:22:29 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's sweet, I mean obviously inconvenience aside driving back to my apartment, mystery in my closet? Uh, I thank you? I should I open it here on the podcast? 00:22:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, but can you actually give me one second because I just realized I didn't plug in. 00:22:45 Speaker 3: My laptop and yeah, of course, okay, I'm. 00:22:55 Speaker 4: Sorry that was unprofessional. 00:22:58 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, I'm going to open this box. We'll see what's inside. It's probably like a foot by a foot. Who knows what's happening in here. Give me a moment while I unwrapped this. Oh boy knocks on microphone. Oh oh what is this? This looks like Uh, it's a like a Coleman brand cooler, like a it's a little cooler. This is adorable. Tell me what's going on here? 00:23:39 Speaker 4: So, you know, I when I was getting a gift, I fought, should I send something stupid and funny that will just see a little you'll laugh at it and then it'll go into trash that I'm a little more useful, And I wasn't feeling a little more useful. And uh, throughout the COVID times, I've been spending a lot of time in the park that's socialized now. 00:24:01 Speaker 3: So I got myself a cooler that that I. 00:24:04 Speaker 4: Got one to put beer with water, whatever I want to drink in there with and it helps keep it insulated and cool. And I can go to the park for hours and my drinks stay cold. And maybe maybe that'd been nice for you too. 00:24:17 Speaker 3: Absolutely wonderful, are you? I mean, it's like this is like a real you know, you could take this camping. It's not like a chinzy yeah couler. It's like a nice little it's essentially perse size. I could replace my handbag Witherson. I have always a cold drink in my money, cold, wet and cold, and I just always have that sloshing around. But this is this is fantastic. So you've been going out to the park. Are you having picnics? 00:24:41 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, no picnics really all all bring I got, I got my my I mean it's just a while to actually do this. And once I did, I was like, why didn't I do it sooner? If I got a blanket and I got that cooler. So I'll usually throw beer in. 00:24:55 Speaker 3: There or wine. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: Or kombucha right and then maybe my water bottle sometimes, So I usually drink room temperature. I don't want to stick it in the Coalman because it'll get too cold, and you know the coal is going to keep it cold, so. 00:25:13 Speaker 3: I don't think you can count on with coal then it's gonna be cold. It's the brand we trust. 00:25:18 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's been it's been great. And if I bring every now and then, I'll bring like a snack right to the puck and if it's something that I want to keep cold, I'll stick it. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: In the Coleman. Snack Wise, what are you doing if. 00:25:32 Speaker 4: I welcome apart? Well, the last I went to the park a couple of days ago was my girlfriend to meet up with her sister and her niece, and I made hummus. 00:25:39 Speaker 3: Oh, and I wrest some hummus and uh, we. 00:25:43 Speaker 4: Got tortilla chips and her sister had made a sandwiches. But usually if I'm snacking, it's like hummus or nuts? 00:25:49 Speaker 2: Right? 00:25:49 Speaker 3: And are you always making your hummus or do you occasionally buy it? I always make it? 00:25:53 Speaker 4: Is it? 00:25:54 Speaker 3: I've made hummus? Once my friend Danny God blessed, she came over and tried to teach me how to make hummus, and it fell like a lot of steps. There was like putting ice cubes in it. There was does it sound right? 00:26:06 Speaker 4: You know some people will do that. 00:26:07 Speaker 3: I don't. 00:26:08 Speaker 4: I think it's actually really easy. I used to buy store about ummits all the time, and then I started making it myself and I tasted dirt, bought hummets again, and I was like, oh, this tastes so different to me. 00:26:18 Speaker 3: Now. 00:26:18 Speaker 4: It tastes like it's meant to last on a shelf. So I feel like it's one of those things that when you start doing it, you can't really go back. But it's really easy, especially well I use I cooked the chick peas myself. Also, if you're doing it with a can, it's even easier because you just open the can, stay a bit of the water, mince the chicks peas, throw them in a food processor or blender or whatever, throw in tahini, olive oil, salt, coom. 00:26:44 Speaker 3: And garlic, lemon juice, and that's it. And do you just blend it up? You just blend it. 00:26:49 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:26:49 Speaker 3: I feel like between opens you're making a lot of just beige pastes in your home. 00:26:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, I eat, I eat, Yeah, I have my well at my breakfast is green because of the hemp. 00:27:00 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, oh that's a fun like going back to that memory now and switching the color of the oatmeal is very It's great a little fun at home activity for listeners to do green oatmeal. Okay, and then you're making hamas. Oh, so that maybe I need to find an easier recipe. My friend Danny's an actual cook, so I think she, uh, she overrested my overestimated my ability to make food. 00:27:24 Speaker 4: Well, we did it for I guess if you just cooked the chickpeas and they're still hot, you would want to add. 00:27:30 Speaker 3: I don't think we even could. I feel like we use canned chickpeas. It was something about making it smooth or something. I don't know. 00:27:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that would be like a substitute for just adding a little bit of water. You just throw in some some I mean, because of course, if your blaming something for a while, it will start to eat it up. Right. 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Oh that's like those super temperature blenders. Yeah, okay, well this is that makes me want to try it again. I've I've I've got. I don't have a little process. I have a blender, powerful blender, which I bought online a few years ago. There was some sort of glitch on the Target website that let people get seventy five percent off of everything, and so I just vitamins dollars, right, I bought a flat I mean, looking back, I really regret not just literally furnishing my home, because yeah, wow, but I do have a blow. 00:28:25 Speaker 4: Are you on the Target website and just happened to notice it? Or did someone say, hey, there's a. 00:28:29 Speaker 3: Glas somebody told me about it. I said, I'll give this a shot. I need I had just moved into my apartment at the time, and I thought, let's give this a little shot, and suddenly I was just on a target chopping spry. Wow, that's you know, that feels like kind of old Internet, when things would go wrong on people's websites and people would take advantage of it. You don't see that much anymore, but when you do, you have to strike. You've got to get your blended, get it. 00:28:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when it's big companies, like guys like, oh, that's a big deal. You know it's a local. 00:28:59 Speaker 3: Store, a huge You're fine, we're all paying in other ways for these companies always be seventy five percent of Yeah, I don't know what to say. No, So you don't picnic often. I haven't been on a picnic in years. I think it's a nice thing to do, but I I guess I don't know why I don't try it. 00:29:17 Speaker 4: You know, my hesitation was picnicing. The reason I'll meat to have a drink instead of eat is that I sometimes eating without a table, if you're just sitting down on the grass and it's kind of uneven, and I feel like if you just get messy. Yeah, depending on what it is, that you're eating. You know, I'm just like I would rather just have a drink. Keep it simple. 00:29:38 Speaker 3: Are you getting take out at all or a you're cooking mostly at home? 00:29:41 Speaker 4: I cook a lot. I'll order takeout like once a. 00:29:44 Speaker 3: Week or so. Okay, and what's re ordering? What sort of food are you into? It depends. 00:29:51 Speaker 4: So the last thing I ordered for takeout was dumplings and scallion pancakes. 00:29:56 Speaker 3: Oh delicious? Oh no me, pancakes I had pickled by Have you never had pancake? Oh? 00:30:02 Speaker 4: They're so good. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: Imagine like like two layers of thick bread. 00:30:09 Speaker 4: With same sweets on it and then pickled vegetables inside, and they're kind of sweet. It's like sweetly pickled. 00:30:14 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds lovely. I mean, I prefer a pickly flavored pickle rather than a sweet pickle. But you know, I'm always willing to try it with a new bread. 00:30:25 Speaker 4: So yeah, in the pancake, it's always a little sweet. 00:30:29 Speaker 3: Oh okay, So this is yeah, we're veering into dessert territory. I feel like a dirt I wouldn't either. 00:30:42 Speaker 4: And then I order, Like what else do I order? I'll order like Thai food here and there there's a reference that has like calad orange food that I'll get from that I really like. But I really I cook most of the time. 00:31:01 Speaker 3: And what sort of food are you cooking? Are you doing a lot of like deliberate cooking or they's just easy whatever I have made. It's both, it's both. 00:31:08 Speaker 4: I feel like my cooking is very utilitarian, just kind of like what does my body need? 00:31:12 Speaker 2: Right? 00:31:12 Speaker 4: So I eat pretty much the same thing for lunch and dinner every day. I can have a very monotonous sort of diet, which is why I order, not because I like. I order because I get so bored of what I'm eating that I need a break from it. Then I always come back to it because I'm like, well, it's got. 00:31:30 Speaker 3: Everything I need well, and what are these things? 00:31:33 Speaker 4: So I'll have. I'll make beans, I'll make steamed greens with which are usually kale, collared greens, finach, and broccoli. I'll steam sweet potato, I'll steam tofu, I'll make comments, I'll some some mushrooms, and that's it. 00:31:51 Speaker 3: Are you putting hot ses on this? I mean, yeah, it. 00:31:54 Speaker 4: Sounds for the it sounds the land, but it's not. Because I'll make the beans, like I'm good at cooking beans, so I'll make good beans, I mean the black beans less. 00:32:03 Speaker 3: What does that make to making a good bean. I've tried cooking a bean once and they ended up being. 00:32:07 Speaker 4: Hard, so you didn't cook them long enough. 00:32:12 Speaker 3: And I also do follow a recipe, which is probably another fatal flaw. 00:32:17 Speaker 4: Well, it depends like what way, like what you want out of the beans, Like if you want the broth to be something that you're eating with them or whatever, then like you know, you soak them overnight or do a quick folk and then when you're actually boiling them to cook them, salt the water you can add like garlic time like whatever you know, herbs you want right, sometimes olive oil, and then just let them go. But when I make beans, I'll usually just add salt of the water and then in a separate pan so that's a garlic and onion, and then add the beans and some of the liquid to that. Sometimes I'll like mash them up to make them like refried. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: Othertimes I'll just let them. 00:32:59 Speaker 4: Be and like a bit of a broth like that and have it with like rice or whatever. It's really easy once you start to do it. I used to never do it. And then when I started doing it, I was like, oh, this is so easy. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I am. I feel like I can eat breakfast that have the same meal for breakfast and lunch every single day, but for dinner, I need some break I need some special thing to look forward to at the end of the day. 00:33:23 Speaker 4: The protein bar every day, every morning. 00:33:25 Speaker 3: Every single morning, I eat a protein bar with my coffee, and then for lunch, I make a shake, and then uh, for dinner. It's anybody's guess. Yeah, truly, what Yeah, I mean just cooking. I'm cooking. I am cooking certainly more than I had literally maybe I mean, outside of like scrambling eggs, had never cooked until the pandemic, which is just humiliating. I mean, whatever I did, a lot of bait I was doing. 00:33:55 Speaker 4: No one can shame you for doing your thing. 00:33:58 Speaker 3: My thing was just throwing away they going after restaurants for dinner every time. That was my thing, and not learning new skills was my thing. And now that's changed. But you know, I'm making a lot of like turkey meatballs, just variations on that I'm making. I bought an instant pot, which I've used three times. I made stew I made soup, I made various things like that. But since we moved, it's my cooking has slowed down a bit. I've been so busy just looking at nonsense like furniture and rugs on the internet that it's really slowed down. But I've got to get back to it. I enjoy doing it. It's just the one thing about cooking at home for me, is it cooking feels a little bit like a magic trick. I mean eating, and if I know what went into it, it's not as exciting. It doesn't feel like there's a real surprise at the end. It's just like, oh, I know exactly what this is going to be, and here we are. 00:34:58 Speaker 4: But when you go to a restaurant that you've been to before and you know what to expect, it doesn't feel like that. 00:35:05 Speaker 3: You know, you've got to give it a couple of weeks in between, but I still don't know what the process was. So that's I just need the process removed. I just need the food to appear before me and then I can enjoy it, maybe ten percent more than I would if I were to make it myself. Is that worth the extra time? And is that so bad? Is that is that so bad? Chain me up, take me to prison. I don't know what to tell anybody. You've spent I mean a decent amount of time in Chile, right, Yeah, Well, we had been down there. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: We were actually shooting when the pandemic started, so we had a stoff production. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: I come back kidding, how far into care you? 00:35:46 Speaker 4: We had about like sixty percent of the second season? 00:35:49 Speaker 3: Oh boy? 00:35:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had the first four episodes like probably eighty percent shot, and yeah, we had to shoot two more, plus like a handful of scenes from the other episode. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: Oh my. 00:36:01 Speaker 3: And what was the general feeling when it got shut down? Was it just I mean, was there like we can try to figure this out, or was it just like this is done. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: Well, we know we're going to finish it sometime in the next few weeks. We'll have a better sense of when that'll be, right, But at the time, I mean, because Chile is so far from the rest of the world, it took a while to kind of get down there. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: So as it was like. 00:36:23 Speaker 4: Becoming worse and worse in Wuhan and gradually spread into Europe. The cases in the US, where you know, the New York case first appeared, it felt like, oh, whoa, Okay, it's like it's it's still far right, And then we started to take more precautions on set. There weren't cases in well, as soon as cases started to arrive in Chile from people that had flown back from Europe. We had like masks on set, but only people that were handling food would wear masks, and we had hand sanitizer everywhere, and everyone was using hand sanitizer. But still I think people felt sort of like, ah, like I mean, obviously not everyone feld like this, but there was a sense of like get it, you get it, and like we didn't really know how bad it was. I started to feel a bit on edge. And then we had a bit of a spare where we found out that one of our actors who had arrived from New York had been found out. While we were shooting, our producers got a call that he had been exposed to someone at a show in New York who had such been positive. So then it was like, oh my god, it's on set. We got to shut down and we made the decision like within twenty four hours to stop production after we got that call, and it felt very much as we were all on the same page that like, yeah, this is not worth the risk and we can finish another time. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Wow, that is so wild and so yeah, it's just up in the era as to when you'll finish it at this point. 00:37:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they think that like maybe before the end of the year we can go back with like you know, obviously a ton of precaution, right, But you know, it's hard to say because in Santiago, I'm not really sure what their rules are on like, you know, is the border still closed, you know, all that kind of stuff we have. I mean, all our crew is Chilean, but we have some asters that come from Mexico in the US, so we would all have to be like housed in the same place and CODs you know often and all that stuff. I don't know, We're just like playing it all right year. 00:38:14 Speaker 3: Right, And do you enjoy spending time in Chile? Is it a funny to be in. 00:38:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. It's like, I don't know why I thought this before I went. When we went to shoot the pilot, I thought I was expecting it to feel like Panama. My family's from Panama, and I was like, oh, they feel like Central America. And then we get there and it's not all like Central America, and it feels like a European city and it feels very like sort of like structured, and the architecture is not what I expected. It's like it's like a very like. 00:38:47 Speaker 3: Rule oriented that's not what I expect. 00:38:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's and it's fun. I've grown to like it. It's like it's kind of a funny place. It feels really like if someone was like, gonna, I want to go like explore, I'm going to go to Santiago, I'd be like, it's not the most like exciting. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: Well Santiago Tourism board isn't listening. 00:39:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I mean, but there are like things that I really enjoy about it. It depends what kind of like. But they have this huge mall that is like a tourist destination for whatever reason, and it's like, yeah, if you want to go like shopping, I guess, but it's more like stuff outside of Santiago, the rest of Chile that has like a lot of really beautiful like lakes and mountains and things like that. But it is a nice place and especially to work. You know, we're on set all day, you know, it's I can like run in the mornings and which I can't really do well in like Panama for example. So it's like nice that it is like a really calm, laid out, like in a pretty simple way to navigate sort of place. 00:39:54 Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, it's a funny city. Now, maybe I'm wrong, but is there like a Chilean sandwich where they put like green beans on the sandwich? Is this something that I'm imagining? I feel like, you know, that. 00:40:09 Speaker 4: Sounds familiarly they put French fries. 00:40:12 Speaker 3: Okay in some stuff. 00:40:14 Speaker 4: I mean I truly I don't. I didn't eat a ton of like traditional Chilean food because age is not a. 00:40:20 Speaker 3: Lot of it. 00:40:21 Speaker 4: It's really like when I first got there. You know again, I hope the tourism board isn't listening, but I was like, oh, Chilean don't know how to eat because there's bread on the table. There's bread on the table that every meal, but the bread sucks. There's not like good bread, it's just like bread. And then the food is like not seasoned. Well they don't like. But also I'm vegan and they eat a lot of seafood, so yeah, stuff like that. That was like Okay, I can't participate in that. So the places that I went to eat that had vegan stuff was truly like, oh this is There was one restaurant that I like and I'd go there every day, but anything else I tried is like not good and the food that both seem to us like people love tomatoes there, but not like good tomatoes, just like Roma tomatoes. But you know, I was like, why did they eat Why don't they have like better food? And I think it's because when when, like you know, they were so closed off for a long time and there's so much European influence there that that it just brought like kind of ruined whatever. Like culturally interesting cuisine they had was just like whitewashed with like bread and Roma tomatoes. 00:41:27 Speaker 3: A shame. Julia is not coming off well on this podcast. But I love Chileanan, you know, and I. 00:41:36 Speaker 4: Love working there, and there is a vegan restaurant there, a vegetarian restaurant but with a lot of vegan options that I love, and I would do anything for that restaurant. 00:41:46 Speaker 3: It really just takes one good restaurant. I mean, yeah, who needs more than one good restaurant, especially somebody eating you know, oatmeal for breakfast and you know, yeah, spinach for dinner. Effort. You're okay, you're fine, Yeah, you're absolutely fine. Okay, Well, you know what, I feel like, it's time to play a game. I just want to play a game. Do you want to play a game called Gift Master or a game called gift or a curse? Yes, Master, Okay, we're going to play gift Master. First of all, I need a number from you between one and ten seven. Okay. I have to do some calculations. This is a randomnest things that I have to count. So for the next minute or who knows how long, I want you to promote something, recommend something. You just have the microphone, so you just spend your time here. Wisely, I'll be right back. 00:42:38 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Well, while I have the time, I want to give a big shout out to drivers everywhere for doing their thing every time to get behind the wheel. 00:42:50 Speaker 3: I want to give a big. 00:42:51 Speaker 4: Thank you to my neighbor who lives next door, Thank you so much for doing that. I want to thank hosts leading guests for centuries it feels like. 00:43:04 Speaker 2: Now. 00:43:06 Speaker 4: I want to say thank you to my landlord for renting me my apartment and for generating steady income for her and her family. I want to say thank you to who else. Well, I would be remiss if I didn't thank the Academy right now, because if it one for them, there wouldn't be Emmy's, and there wouldn't be oscars and Tony's and all those things that was come to cherish, especially right now during the pandemic, when so much is at stake and this is the new normal and we are all just figuring it out as we go along. So without further ado, I'm going to throw it back to the band, who's here graciously covering the entire Andrea Bachelli discography T get Away. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Oh that really lined up really well. I managed to get it just in time. Great, very exciting to half listen to while I was calculating. This is how gift master works. I'm going to tell you three objects, items, whatever, and then I'm also going to tell you three celebrities. You have to tell me which item you would give which celebrity and why does that make sense? It's very simple? Yeah? 00:44:18 Speaker 4: Would I have a question technical questions? What if I don't know the celebrity? 00:44:22 Speaker 3: Oh, I'll try there's a good chance that I might not know the celebrity. That's it. You know that I live in a world of not knowing a lot of who a lot of celebrities are. But I'll do my best to explain to you who they are and their general thing should But I imagine you'll know, Okay, I mean these are you know I Marilyn Monroe, Babe Bruce, John F. Kennedy. No, I think you'll know these people, and if not, we'll work around it. This game, you know, ultimately it's a growth exercise, and we're both going to grow. The listener will learn, and we'll all become better for playing it. So the first the gifts that you're going to be giving are a remote controlled truck, you know, like a toy, remote controlled truck You're going to be giving, uh, let's see, a pair of chunky boots, and then also a bag of mousetraps. Those are the three things that I've calculated here, and then you're going to have to give them to the following people. Actor John Goodman, we know him from Roseanne, we know him from all sort of terrific actor. Who else is on this list? Marie Osmond of the Osmond family. You know, she's this former singer, the sister of Donnie Osmond. You know they were singers in the seventies. 00:45:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, can I look up? Yeah, okay, because I haven't seen me a lot where I'm like, I don't know, I don't know anyone's name, but if I see them, I'm like, oh, okay. 00:45:59 Speaker 3: Right, Marie husband, for some reason, always gives me the vibe of being a giant spider. 00:46:03 Speaker 4: So yes, okay, now that I'm looking at the photo, I totally agree and I get it. 00:46:07 Speaker 3: Okay, that makes me feel actually really good because you know, I don't know where that that vibe is coming from her, but she's got a spider vibe. And finally, director Guermo del Toro of you know, Pans Labyrinth, the what was that movie? 00:46:24 Speaker 4: Shape of Water? 00:46:25 Speaker 3: Yes, Shape of Water, various films, and so there you go. What's going to happen here? 00:46:32 Speaker 4: Well, I would give Garamo before the bag of moss track, okay, because there must be a rodent infensation somewhere in the proximity to him. I assume he has like a big property and maybe on the perimeter he would want to put the masks track. 00:46:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've seen pictures of his house and it's like it feels like there's a decent amount of clutter. I feel like he's like, yes, probably have clients, Yeah there's. 00:47:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, or he can put his scripts under them if they're not finishing. He doesn't want anyone to read them. And then I would give John Goodman the chunky boots, Okay, why because they you know, I thought at first to give him some Marie Ausman, but then I thought she already has so many. 00:47:20 Speaker 3: Tons, four closets of chunky boots. 00:47:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't need anymore. And John didn't probably doesn't have any chunky boots, so now he has some. And then Maria Ethen gets the toy truck. I'm sure there's a child in her life that could benefit from. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: It, or Marie herself in the show, or I don't know what she's doing stage show. 00:47:43 Speaker 4: That's how they bring her the Michaels phone. 00:47:46 Speaker 3: They strap a microphone to a remote control truck and she drives it out to herself. I feel like that would be a decent I would scream and holler for that stay. 00:47:54 Speaker 4: And it becomes like her her trademark, and when people see the truck coming out, because I know she's gonna sing. 00:48:02 Speaker 3: They hear like that high whine of an electric toy coming onto the stage, and people just lose their minds. I don't even know as Marie singing anymore. I don't know. But if she isn't singing, she's got you know, vegas or something. She's Yeah, you know, once you start singing, you don't stop, you don't stop. I think that's great. 00:48:23 Speaker 4: I have never started. 00:48:26 Speaker 3: Do you sing at all? I'm scared I would never stop. No, I'm a really bad singer. Oh that makes me feel better. I'm not a good singer. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 00:48:34 Speaker 3: That makes sense. You don't look like someone who could sing. I mean, actually, I feel like a lot of drummers don't sing. Is that true? 00:48:42 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:48:42 Speaker 3: I don't sing. 00:48:43 Speaker 4: If I was ever like when I play music with my friends Amy and Laura Life, they were like, do you want to sing? Well, first of all, I can't drum and sing at the same time, right, And I would also be like, no, I'm not a good vocalist. You can know why you're asking me to sing, because it's not my job to sing here. 00:49:00 Speaker 3: I'm here for another reason. Yeah, yeah, I can't sing Happy birthday or anything. I just cannot. 00:49:08 Speaker 4: I get like a little embarrassed singing happy birthday. 00:49:11 Speaker 3: Oh I feel anytime people are just vocalizing in unison, in any situation, I feel embarrassed, Like if people are cheering or anything. There's a real I don't know what it is, if I feel very self conscious or I just feel embarrassed for everybody doing it. I don't know why. 00:49:26 Speaker 4: You know, I haven't have a problem with people singing. I understand that it brings tremendous joy to so many people, and I'm not asking them to stop. What I feel embarrassed is because I know I can't sing. And in Happy Birthday, the part where you's a happy birthday, Dar or so and so and you go up a little bit, That's when I'm like, oh no, well, and that's. 00:49:44 Speaker 3: The part where it's like everyone's driving off the cliff at a different time. So there's a good chance people are going to able to hear your voice there, and you're going to really humiliate yourself on someone else's birthday, and it's a whole situation. Yeah, so I understand that completely. All that said, we're moving into the final segment of the podcast listeners. This is called I said no questions they're writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. These people are desperate. They need help finding gifts for people in their lives. Will you just help me answer a couple questions? Okay, let me read this first one. 00:50:18 Speaker 4: Here. 00:50:19 Speaker 3: It says Highbridger, my husband and I are due with our first child, and while I honestly don't think he'll buy me a gift to accompany the birth, I'm the kind of gal that frequently does that what I wish other people would do, in hopes that they get the message without actually having to talk about it. What should I buy my husband? Okay, I think I'm misreading here, but she says, what should I buy my husband? Should I give him a gift around the time of the birth or should I just wait until Father's Day? Follow up question if he doesn't buy me a gift but then receives one and realizes maybe he should have and asked, Oh, okay, now I'm seeing what I'm getting a fuller picture, and so sincerely, And she just says, first time mom who wants a memento to commemorate everything I've been through? Okay, so basically what's happening is she's having a baby, she's hoping her husband buys her a gift without being told she's going to buy him a gift, and is now afraid he's gonna feel guilty because I mean, uh, but you know, I've. 00:51:20 Speaker 4: Got to say that. The while you were reading it, I thought, this is not a healthy communication. If you want him to can't do you a gift, but you don't want to talk to him about it, I don't want to communicate. That's like relationship one on one. They got to communicate. That is, you got to talk to your husband about the gifts and to buy him a gift and hope that he understands you wanted him to get you a gift. Is expecting a lot of him and also putting him in a situation where no matter what, he will fail. You know, if you want do you want him to feel guilty? Because he will if you give him a gift and he realizes it's because you wanted a. 00:51:56 Speaker 3: Give You know. 00:51:58 Speaker 4: I think they should talk and decide for a gift together. 00:52:01 Speaker 3: This is beautiful and it's such a mature way of looking at gift giving, which I think most people don't do, which is there is like I'll do that occasionally. I'll like wait till my birthday and hope my boyfriend has gotten me something or has planned something without telling him I'd like to do something, or you know that sort of thing, and then when it doesn't happen, he didn't know. I mean, I mean, there is a baseline like assumption that's the person's birthday is coming up, I should do something. But you've got to communicate if there's a in a situation like this where it's like, I've never heard of giving somebody a gift after. 00:52:37 Speaker 4: They Yeah, you know, I thought it would be a gift for the baby or. 00:52:41 Speaker 3: Something, right, which, but the gifts for each other, it's a nice thought. Yeah, So, I mean, I've now we've zoomed out so far. I don't even know what she's asking. I don't even know why we're here, completely black, and let's just say, what should she get her husband? After she tells her husband I want a gift. 00:53:05 Speaker 4: They have a healthy conversation about all this. 00:53:07 Speaker 3: I mean that almost is the gift. We're going to commute a bit more because we're bringing a child into the world, going to be. 00:53:17 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's toxic. Little gift, I think a good gift for a soon to be father. You know, I'm so tempted to say a chunky boot. 00:53:34 Speaker 3: A child should grow up knowing his father can wear chunky boots. 00:53:38 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and you should argue that a lot of boots are chunky, sort of by default, that a boot is a chunky shoe. 00:53:46 Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's very true. I mean, I guess that's like a streamlined boot is a stranger thing, less comptant. Maybe get the dad both a chunky and a you know, like a sleek, streamlined. 00:53:59 Speaker 4: Boot, a strain warned boot. What I do want to think? I mean, it's really hard to take a gift for someone when you. 00:54:06 Speaker 3: Don't know anything about it other than the fact that they're not communicating as much as they should walkie talking. 00:54:13 Speaker 4: How about some noise canceling headphones so that he doesn't have to listen to his wife and declining babies. 00:54:22 Speaker 3: No, I feel like you you're gonna want to get him, like, you know, something, something that he's able to spend time with, maybe like a. 00:54:36 Speaker 4: Babysitter or something, or like a nanny, something so that like they can have take a turn like not being up all night. 00:54:43 Speaker 3: Every now and then with the babe, because you know that drives people insane. Yeah, okay, well, I feel like chunky boot noise canceling headphones so that he doesn't. 00:54:55 Speaker 4: Have to hear finishing, so he doesn't have to hear his wife crying. 00:54:59 Speaker 3: Baby just put him on a path to beautiful fatherhood. I hope that this has been of some use to you, but I feel like the real home run here was the communication. Move on with that and do congratulations on the baby, and everything's going to be fine. Okay, one more, let's do this one, says mister Weineger and guest, I deeply appreciate. Okay, blah blah blah. Let's see, I'm getting too much, too much. I'm trying to get to the heart of the matter here and here it is. It says I'm getting married on October second, and my future bride has expressed that she look at this communication, has expressed that she would like a gift on the morning of the wedding. All these unconventional gifts. What do you get your bride as a gift for the morning of birthday Christmas? No problem. I can usually come up with something thoughtful, but a wedding day gift. I need some advice, some pro advice, he says, which, okay, well, I don't know what you're about to get. The agree budget is around one hundred dollars, so there's an agreement. Okay. She likes coffee, she likes lavender, all things cozy and being outdoors. Could you help me out? And that's from Daniel. I mean, what an what a swing here? We get into some real gift communication. They have a budget. Yeah, they both know there's an expectation, they know what they want from each other. 00:56:17 Speaker 4: I mean, what. 00:56:20 Speaker 3: Wedding I mean yeah, and wow. So she likes coffee lavender, so she just likes the scent of lavender, I imagine. But this is not going to happen on the morning of the wedding. So I could get her worth of coffee, just a huge bag of coffee she has to kind of carry around in her wedding dress. Is there such thing as lavender flavored coffee? 00:56:45 Speaker 4: But you know what, if you really like coffee, you want you don't talk with. 00:56:48 Speaker 3: You don't want to flavor, you want the coffee flavor. You want the coffee flavor. Right, So that's mixing worlds in a bad way. She likes being outdoors. I mean, I've recently received a gift that was a Coleman cooler, which is perfect for outdoor. Why not get her some way to make like a cold coffee. I use a toddy to make a cold brew coffee. You get her that and the little pouch, and suddenly you're out drinking coffee together. 00:57:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:57:19 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's first of all excellent with Coleman. 00:57:23 Speaker 3: We've got to bring it back to Coleman or you paid one hundred thousand dollars to So we've got to really pound that. What what do you think the morning of? Does I have to think on the morning of? 00:57:38 Speaker 4: I don't think it has to be used on the morning of. 00:57:40 Speaker 2: You know. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: I feel like maybe if they're outdoors, they both spend time outdoors, they could invest in one of those little like camping coffee makers, but like a nice one. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: What's that like the little metal thing? Yeah? 00:57:53 Speaker 4: Like I feel like what I don't I don't I wasn't looking for something like that, but I was looking at like Ari I for something else got it outdoor related, and I and I came across like that kind of thing. So I'm like, oh, maybe they could get they don't have one, and I feel like maybe those Italian style like. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: So hot ones, right and you put that something like that or something and heat up your coffee. 00:58:17 Speaker 4: Yeah. Or if she doesn't have a nice like tumbler or something like that, there are some really pretty tumbles that are. 00:58:23 Speaker 3: Okay that are out there, you know, off online, head to the store, off. 00:58:27 Speaker 4: Online, or you could do something that that doesn't involve any of those things. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: Surprise her something that she doesn't like. 00:58:36 Speaker 4: Get her right, get her a bottom of the raid, a raid, you know, so she can spray around her bucket that it's not a bug spread for you, but it's the kind of you spray around your. 00:58:50 Speaker 3: House to kill, like hornets or whatever they kill. 00:58:53 Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on how you buy. There are certain mixtures are made for different types of pets. But if she has a can of rage and she can splay around the altar where they're going to get married, so no bugs crawl on her, there's no cup your leg in a wedding dress. 00:59:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to see a bride walking around a wedding killing bugs with everywhere nobody can breathe and bugs are just all over the ground. 00:59:21 Speaker 4: I had to get some. I had to get some raide I used to. I lived in that apartment where it was like infected with house pentipines, and I didn't know that until I moved in. And then I was like, I was in a basement room and I was like, I told one of the people, like, hey, there's a ton. 00:59:36 Speaker 3: Of bugs down here. 00:59:38 Speaker 4: It's just like, oh, that's so weird. Let me ask the guy that moved out. And then he was like, yeah, it just didn't bother me. And so then I had like a giant sing of bugs riads in. I bought that I would spray my room all the time, and eventually it got under control and the landlord came and filled like the floor and stuff. But anyways, it's some and that it is good to have on hand. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: I think everybody should have a bug spray. I think it's yeah, it is a valuable thing. I can't believe that the landlord kind of just placed the or maybe I can believe the responsibility on you to kill all of the bugs before he was willing to fix the situation. 01:00:15 Speaker 4: Well, well he sealed it up, you know, there was it was the kind of thing where like the floor is here and the the baseboarder exists. So there's like a huge. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: Gash, right, you know, but the spray took care of it. Big deal. The spray helps a lot. Yeah, well I think that. Then you get a beautifully wrapped box full of several cans of RAID, maybe for different types of bugs. You don't know what sort of bugs are going to invade your wedding. And I mean one hundred dollars worth of bug spray that it's got to be a decent amount. 01:00:45 Speaker 4: That's a lot that'll last the whole marriage. 01:00:49 Speaker 3: When you run out of RAID, the marriage is over. 01:00:52 Speaker 4: We're done here. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: We've killed all the bugs we're going to kill together. Yeah. Well, congratulations to them on their wedding and their new supply sprey pandemic wedding. I know, life Martins. Hopefully it's outdoors and yeah, hopefully he's got masks on and is taking the. 01:01:18 Speaker 4: Win. 01:01:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if nothing else, then why are we even bothering with this wet uh And it's I am just so thrilled to have had you here. And you know, probably every fifth gift I've been given on this program has been a something I can implement in my life practically, and this is a real big winner. I really appreciate a practical, practical, usable gift, so bless you for that. And I can't wait to go to the park with a cold drink or maybe even a sandwich or maybe a you know, another refrigerated item. Who knows. Yeah, but you're just wonderful and I've had a lovely time, So thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having me and everybody. That's the end of the podcast. So eventually the audio will stop and you'll move on with your life and look forward to whatever is to come. So I love you, goodbye. I Said No Gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at I Said No Gifts and if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it? 01:02:49 Speaker 1: Hello, man, did you hear fun A man? Myself perfectly clear. But you're I guess, Tom, you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guest, your own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?