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Speaker 3: This will be the first time since two thousand and

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Speaker 3: seven the Vikings have not begun the season with a

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Speaker 3: running back on the roster who has made a Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl as a ball carrier before. You have a great

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Speaker 3: opportunity this year in this offense, with these weapons, with

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell running it, with the relationship they have to

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Speaker 3: go out and have maybe the best year you've had

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Yougan Minnesota for another offseason edition of the

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings Podcast. My name is Gabe Henderson and alongside

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Speaker 4: me today break it down all Things Vikings is Tatum

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Speaker 4: Everett from Vikings dot Com and Jay Nelson. Eric Davidson

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Speaker 4: is not in the room, but he is still a

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Speaker 4: part of this podcast, bringing you guys the most clean

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Speaker 4: Ben Guestling is also here and he's toomar right and Ben.

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Speaker 4: We start off with some news that has been reported

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Speaker 4: via social media from Ian Rappriport and Tom Pelicaro as

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Speaker 4: we are recording this episode. They have reported that the

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Speaker 4: Vikings have officially released Dalvin Cook, four time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: running back. I know, like I said, as we're recording this,

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Speaker 4: there can be something that happens, maybe there's a trade.

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Speaker 4: But this is on social media right now and just

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Speaker 4: seeing that when you hear this news of a guy

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Speaker 4: who has rushed for a thousand yards the past four seasons,

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Speaker 4: how does this affect the future of this organization.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we'll see how this shakes out. My

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Speaker 3: understanding is there's still a chance of a trade. There's

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Speaker 3: at the time we're talking about this, still a chance

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Speaker 3: of a trade, still a chance of finding somebody that

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Speaker 3: So I think this is still a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a work in progress. But this has been something that's

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Speaker 3: been talked about from people I've talked to for quite

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Speaker 3: a number of months, and it's sort of been something

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Speaker 3: that you could see coming. When Alexander Madison signs the

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Speaker 3: it includes probably discussions. I don't know that Alexander Madison

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Speaker 3: be a little bit bigger role, and I think all

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Speaker 3: in this offense. So how does it affect things going forward?

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Speaker 3: I think the big thing that you have to account

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Speaker 3: of big moments last year in Miami the Colts, the

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Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook. The run that kind of got the comeback

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Speaker 3: to the final outcome. How do you replace that while

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Speaker 3: getting some of that efficiency that Kevin O'Connell has talked

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Speaker 3: That sort of thing that I think is the big

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Speaker 3: certainly is the piece of what Dalvin Cook preaches to

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Speaker 1: This is a very different staff we've seen. They've made

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Speaker 1: a lot of big decisions recently, a lot of faces.

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Speaker 1: I think Vikings fans have been comfortable seeing, the most

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Speaker 2: When you see it, you don't want to call it

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Speaker 1: But when you see what's going on, the maneuvering on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the big thing has been and

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Speaker 3: And I think even the way they've done it has

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Speaker 3: then let's have flexibility going forward. That this has not

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like this is kind of indicative of

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Speaker 5: there's the debate going on between what is the league

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Speaker 5: more of an aerial assault, even all of the rule

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was actually looking this up a week

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Speaker 3: don't have that. And I think some of that shows

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Speaker 3: the shift that you're talking about, and some of it

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Speaker 3: is just the way the position has gone. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt this is going to look different than

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Speaker 5: And even in that Latavious Murray time, you had Jerick

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Speaker 5: this is the beginning of that shift.

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Speaker 3: But who knows.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Madison's certainly going to get the opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Having Kevin O'Connell referred to it, I think a week

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Speaker 4: Yeah, those are really good points. I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: Now, Well, I think there's certainly a desire to throw

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Speaker 3: been where you've seen teams land. I think that's kind

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Speaker 3: But there's also been investments in the run game too,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you look with him. You look

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Speaker 3: dime linebacker, maybe that's Brian Flores maybe, or Brian Flores,

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Speaker 3: Brian Osamoa, maybe that's Josh Mattellus. In spots we've seen

438
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Speaker 3: some looks like that. I'm curious to see how some

439
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: of the safeties maybe come in and add to that.

440
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: But whoever it is, I think that intermediate coverage zone

441
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: that that became a problem at the end of last

442
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Speaker 3: season where you had teams throwing over the middle of

443
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: the field quite a bit. So can Brian Asamoa do that?

444
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 3: Can Jordan Hicks kind of be reinvigorated by this scheme?

445
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: How do the safeties play into it? If we see

446
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 3: more kind of three safety looks where you have safeties

447
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 3: doing different things, I think that part of it. I'm

448
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: very curious to see how all of that plays out,

449
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 3: because that's certainly a need based on some of the

450
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 3: the areas where we saw, especially like in the playoff

451
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: game or the Giants kind of had their way over

452
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: the middle of the field and towards the end of

453
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Speaker 3: the season especially. But I'm sure there's been a lot

454
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Speaker 3: of time spent up in those defensive meeting rooms about

455
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Speaker 3: how do we kind of lock this area of the

456
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Speaker 3: field down and make it less of an open space

457
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks to feast on.

458
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Speaker 4: You know what I just learned, like two days ago,

459
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Speaker 4: what Brian Asamoa's last name is pronounced assem wah.

460
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Namdi Asamoa, the old Eagles corner.

461
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 4: I recorded a Viking circle with him and I was like,

462
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 4: Brian Asamoa. He was like, actually, my name is pronounced Asamoah.

463
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: But being in America, the dictation of the word people

464
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Speaker 4: kind of so like I was kind of thrown back.

465
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Speaker 4: But one of Ba's best friends is Lewis Scene. Yeah,

466
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Speaker 4: and Lewis Scene is probably the biggest I guess X

467
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: factor in my opinion, because you can put him anywhere

468
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: on the field and kind of just tell him to

469
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Speaker 4: go play football. But for you, how do you see

470
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Speaker 4: him fitting into this Brian Flores defense.

471
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an interesting one too. Andrew Kramer, my colleague

472
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: at the Start Trebun, was talking to Deonte Jones about

473
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 3: Lewis the other day and he talked a lot about, Hey,

474
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Speaker 3: he needs to learn the scheme. Obviously it's a new

475
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Speaker 3: scheme for him. Didn't get a lot of time last

476
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Speaker 3: year to play in the defense because of the injury

477
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: in London, so that you know, that's kind of out

478
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: of everybody's control at this point, but it's trying to

479
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Speaker 3: teach the fundamentals to the point where he can come

480
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Speaker 3: in and play a bigger role. But he can run

481
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Speaker 3: in terms of you know, just in terms of speed.

482
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Speaker 3: He brings as much as anybody in the defensive backfield,

483
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Speaker 3: certainly in that safety group on this roster. So if

484
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Speaker 3: he can get acclimated with the basics of the scheme

485
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: and in the fundamentals so that he's playing quickly out

486
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Speaker 3: there and doesn't have to stop and think, that's where

487
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: you can really turn that speed loose. I'm very curious

488
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Speaker 3: to see that piece of it as well, because we've

489
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Speaker 3: seen this be a scheme where safeties have opportunities to

490
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Speaker 3: play a little bit more of a role. You're going

491
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Speaker 3: to see more dime packages, You're going to see probably

492
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Speaker 3: more three safety looks. It's not the days of its

493
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: nickel or its base, which we've seen a lot of,

494
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: and you're not seeing a third safety on the field

495
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Speaker 3: very often. I think that group in general will have

496
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Speaker 3: more opportunities to carve out roles and lewis seen if

497
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Speaker 3: he can come along and show he's healthy, show he's

498
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: got everything down. I think he's going to get opportunities

499
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Speaker 3: to do that in time.

500
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Speaker 2: So Ota is wrapping up this week, mandatory meeting camp

501
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: next week, lie of a break, Yes, and well the

502
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Speaker 2: Gauntlet starts.

503
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Speaker 1: You'll be you know, on the beat for months and

504
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: months beginning in July. I feel like there are a

505
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: lot of questions, maybe more so this year than ever

506
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: because of all of the new names that you're talking

507
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: about on these players.

508
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: You're excited to see.

509
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Speaker 1: Just you know, canceling out those those positions we've just

510
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: talked about. What other position battle intrigues you the most.

511
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: I am curious to see kind of how things shake out,

512
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, probably a little bit at the at the

513
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: tight end spot. I'm curious to see if josh Alla

514
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: josh Oliver has a bigger role in this offense, because

515
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: you know, he kind of talked about it when he

516
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: came in here in the sense that everybody thinks of

517
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: me as a blocking tight end because that's how the

518
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: Ravens used me. Lamar Jackson is there, but I kind

519
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: of get the sense he could play a little bit

520
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: bigger role in the passing game, knowing that they may

521
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: try to use twelve personnel or even twenty two personnel

522
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: to dictate some looks, so he gets opportunities as a

523
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Speaker 3: secondary target. Kirk Cousins has liked throwing it to tight

524
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Speaker 3: ends over the course of his career. I mean, his

525
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: better days in Washington were with Jordan Reed, Randon Davis,

526
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: a lot of those two tight end sets. You could

527
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Speaker 3: recreate some of those things with Josh Oliver and TJ. Hockinson,

528
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: and TJ Hockinson having another year in this scheme, I

529
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Speaker 3: think has a great opportunity to have a big year

530
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Speaker 3: as well. So I'm kind of curious to see how

531
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Speaker 3: that group is used. It's not a position battle so

532
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Speaker 3: much because we know who those starters are going to be,

533
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Speaker 3: but I'm curious the role that they carve out for

534
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Speaker 3: them elves in the context of the offense, because I

535
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: think that's you know, we talk a lot about what

536
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: happens at receiver. Is Jordan Addison, the number two, is

537
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: kJ Osborne in for a big year? How do they

538
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: replace Adam DeLand as a complimentary threat. I think the

539
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: tight end piece of this is going to be really

540
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: interesting to watch as well.

541
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Speaker 5: When it comes to the kind of field general in

542
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Speaker 5: the offense anyways, with Kirk, you know, with given his

543
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 5: contract situation everything going into the season, and like we

544
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 5: have been talking about all of the weapons that are

545
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: around him, what needs to happen for Kirk this season

546
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Speaker 5: to help offensively kind of shift us to whatever this

547
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Speaker 5: new paradigm is going to be for this offense.

548
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it is

549
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: what you've seen them do in the offseason of trying

550
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: to create support for him, whether it's being in shorter

551
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: down and distances more often, which I think the hope

552
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 3: is that mitigates some of the pressure where defenses can't

553
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: pin their ears back and Kirk doesn't have to hold

554
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: the ball quite as long to get something open. I

555
00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: think it's probably having a group of receivers that can

556
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: move around a little bit more and maybe be a

557
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: little more dynamic after the catch than what he's had

558
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: in the past. I think the hope is that the

559
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: offensive line will continue to continue to get better, especially

560
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: as Christian Darrisaw turns into one of the better left

561
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: tackles in the league. I think that's every expectation is

562
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: he's on that trajectory. So if Kirk is able to

563
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: sit back and make plays, either by getting the ball

564
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: out of his hands quickly or with a little bit better,

565
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: a little bit cleaner pocket than perhaps he's had in

566
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: the past. I think a lot of those things will help.

567
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Speaker 3: And this is the first time in I think it's

568
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 3: back to like twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen that he's

569
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Speaker 3: had the same play caller two years in a row.

570
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Speaker 3: And I know Kevin O'Connell has talked about that a lot.

571
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: I know Kirk has talked about that a lot where

572
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: there's I think genuine excitement to say, hey, even if

573
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: your contract situation is up for debate and up for

574
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: discussion in the future, you have a great opportunity this year,

575
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Speaker 3: in this offense, with these weapons, with Kevin O'Connell running it,

576
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Speaker 3: with the relationship they have, with the familiarity that Kirk

577
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: Cousins has in this scheme, to go out and have

578
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: maybe the best year you've had in the NFL, which

579
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: is a good thing for Kirk Cousins. It's a good

580
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: thing for the Vikings in the sense that it probably

581
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: means it's been a successful year on the field, and

582
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: then you figure out the rest of it later. I think,

583
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: no matter what happens after this year, that is a

584
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: good thing for him. And my sense has been that

585
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: he's embraced that part of it and has said, you

586
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: know what, we'll let things figure get figured out as

587
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: they go. And he's no stranger to playing in contract years.

588
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: But I think if he's able to embrace that part

589
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: of things, I think he's set up for a strong year.

590
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on this. Please.

591
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Report just ranked the Vikings signing Bayern Murphy Junior as

592
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: the fifth best offseason acquisition this summer. So when you

593
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: hear that, what comes to mind? Because that's behind you know,

594
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: the Bears going up to the number one overall pick.

595
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: We'll trade the number one overall pick yep in front

596
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: of that, Javon Hargrave to the forty nine ers, and

597
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 4: then there's a few like.

598
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, like Byron Murphy.

599
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: Top five. Is it that big of a signing for

600
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: the right.

601
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Speaker 3: That's that's interesting. I mean, it's just it's kind of

602
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: one of those lower profile things because the contract's not

603
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: that big, and you don't look at that one as

604
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: something that grabbed a ton of headlines. But they needed

605
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: a corner and they needed somebody that can play in

606
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: this scheme. I think for as effective as Patrick Peterson

607
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: was last year, by his own admission, the ed Donnotel

608
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 3: scheme was better for him at this stage of his

609
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: career than some of the stuff he had done, which

610
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: is more like what Brian Flores will probably do. Where

611
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: it's man coverage. You need a guy that can run

612
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: across the field. I think Byron Murphy gives the Vikings

613
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: more of that, and he's going to get every opportunity

614
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: to show it because he's the most experienced corner in

615
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: that room. Has to show we can stay healthy. But

616
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: I think he's going to get opportunities to have a

617
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: big year in this scheme. It certainly meant a big need,

618
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: certainly a type of player that they knew they needed

619
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: to go get. And you you kind of wait and

620
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: see what happens with a Caleb Evans, with Andrew Booth.

621
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: You know that group needs to kind of grow behind

622
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: Byron Murphy. But if he can come back, if he

623
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: can come in and be you know, CB one, I

624
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: think it's it's certainly a big need filled there. Ben.

625
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Are you a big Instagram guy?

626
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: Not terribly my Instagram I have one it's it's fairly dormant.

627
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: I spend enough time on Twitter that I don't like

628
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: to spend a ton of social media. Yeah, I probably

629
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: should spend more time on Instagram than I do.

630
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: But well, if you're like me and you follow at Ingram, yeah,

631
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: he's been updating us. I mean, I've been, you know,

632
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: watching it for maybe a little over fifteen hours now.

633
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything recently, but I've.

634
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: Been watching his stories because he has been posting about

635
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: maybe I should do Snapchat. I don't do the Snapchat.

636
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I draw the line somewhere, you know, I just can't

637
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: do it anymore. And it looked like he posted a

638
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: snap video first.

639
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: But I feel like everything goes to Twitter. Yeah, it'll

640
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: get there eventually.

641
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you haven't seen it, doesn't mean you haven't seen it.

642
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: But but but Kirk has taking the offensive line on

643
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: a private plane, yes, on a trip, and they did

644
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: he did, you know? The question was and Ga Gabord

645
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: in here, thank you know, thankful? Like where where are

646
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: they going? Where are they taking him? And it looks

647
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: like they're in California. But that's just my assumption after

648
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: seeing I don't know. I mean, this is if you

649
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: look at this beach photo Minnesota.

650
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: This is not this is not the Gulf, this is

651
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: not the Atlantic. This is this is the Pacific.

652
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: There's a lot of dunes in West Michigan. I don't

653
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Speaker 3: I don't think.

654
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: I don't eat I don't think this is Holland, Michigan.

655
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: No, I mean, yeah that it's probably not. That's that

656
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: would probably not be the the fit. But there there

657
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: are sand dunes and beaches pretty close to Kirk. This

658
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: is true place, you know.

659
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: And I and I do. I will say, like it's

660
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: great to see things like this though, like I like

661
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: a peek behind the curtain.

662
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, you know, they they have their free time,

663
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: let them do what they want to do. And it's

664
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: nice to see them all spending time together. And and

665
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if this has been something that Kirk

666
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: can be something publicized it's.

667
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Really done before. But obviously to me it only means

668
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: good thing.

669
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you have seen a shift with

670
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: him in the last year. I mean we we all.

671
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Instagram gave us a window to the shifts around the

672
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: time of the Washington game last year. I think that's

673
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: when Kirk Ochains made his debut. There has been a

674
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: noticeable shift in the way he has kind of, you know,

675
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: leaned into, whether it's the leadership role or kind of

676
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: just the dad swag thing that's yeah, well, I you know,

677
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: it empowers the rest of us that that's the only

678
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: play we have too, so I'm all for it. I

679
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: think he has felt probably a little more emboldened to

680
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: just say I'm going to be myself. And when you

681
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: have Kevin O'Connell talking as much as he does about

682
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Kirk as the leader of our team, there is a

683
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: message to Kirk there about you have the freedom, you

684
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: have the green light to go shape this thing how

685
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: you want to do it. And I think some of

686
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: these things of you know, spending time with guys off

687
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: the field, saying, let me take my guys to whatever

688
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: beach place we went to. I think there's a little

689
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: bit of that coming from the fact that he just

690
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: feels a little more emboldened, a little more free to

691
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: kind of help shape this thing the way he wants

692
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: to do it.

693
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: He still had his shirt tucked in.

694
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: Wow, a private plane hashtag daswa exactly. It's like private

695
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: plane but still on brand.

696
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: And he's like, you guys on the front so.

697
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: We got couches for the big guys in the front more.

698
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: I think it was like Brian Ooda ask to like

699
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: do you have zip off the table?

700
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: He's like, can I send the seat so I could

701
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: eat on the table? Like asking Kirk Dad permission? Can

702
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I sit here?

703
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: Please?

704
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: No foot on a couch? Such a line.

705
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: I'm also curious too, because you know, thinking about the

706
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: people behind the curtain with Netflix and Quarterback and everything

707
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: that's also coming out the summer, I really am curious

708
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: to see kind of what they got a hold of

709
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: as far as footage wise, and you know, those kind

710
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: of situations. And maybe it is something where just the

711
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: comfort level of him knowing like he has a coach

712
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: that supports what he does, understands kind of the role

713
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 5: of what he has to do and has given him

714
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: that support is kind of giving him this ability to

715
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: feel more comfortable. And who knows how that's going to

716
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: pay off on the field, But it just feels like

717
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: locker room wise last year and going in this offseason,

718
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: like everything just feels rid of the loosey goosey.

719
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

720
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: I think with him too, I mean you hit on

721
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: something there that this connection of trust off the field

722
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: and what he's asked to do on the field, and

723
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: I think there is from the little bit i've heard

724
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: that that Netflix documentary is going to give us a

725
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: fair window into kind of what goes into this job.

726
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: And I wrote about at the end of last season,

727
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: just all of the things that are on his plate

728
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: pre snap, whether it's changing protections, just the verbiage he

729
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: has to get out that has to go from Kevin

730
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: O'Connell to Kirk Cousin and to Kirk Cousins to the

731
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: rest of the group in forty seconds, especially when you're

732
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: calling two plays in the huddle sometimes and you have

733
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: to having to can from one to the other. And

734
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: West Coast offenses, which this is have a lot of herbage,

735
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: So there is a lot on his plate even before

736
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 3: the ball is snapped. The stuff that we don't really

737
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: pay attention to on TV because that's when the announcers

738
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: are talking and you're not really privy to that in

739
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: a way that would help you appreciate that part of

740
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: the job. But that is a big part of this offense.

741
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: There is a lot more on his plate from a

742
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: snap to snap basis. It's not just can I rip it?

743
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: You know, thirty yards on a dime when there's a

744
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: defender hanging over the top of Justin Jefferson to fit

745
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: in a tight spot. That is a big part of

746
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: the job. But basically being the CEO of the offense

747
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: on the field, being that extension of Kevin O'Connell is

748
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: a really really important part of playing quarterback in this offense,

749
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: and I think that part of what Kirk does is

750
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: something O'Connell appreciates. That probably something he has wanted to

751
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: lean into. Knowing that you have a veteran quarterback that

752
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: is as cerebral and is well studied in as detailed

753
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: as Kirk Cousins is, you support the rest of it

754
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: because it's only a good thing if he's able to

755
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: play with some confidence and run the whole thing in

756
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: the way that he's been able to do it. I

757
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: think that's a big part of the job. Let's wrap

758
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: things up with this. The twenty twenty four College Football

759
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame ballot is out and there are several

760
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: Vikings players that are on that list, including Randy Moss,

761
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: Steve Hutchinson, Jim Kleinsasser, Toby Gerhardt, and offully decorated college

762
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: for sure Stanford guy.

763
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: But one thing that really stood out to me is

764
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: Randy Moss and Steve Hutchinson already inducted into the Pro

765
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame, They're now finally getting inducted into

766
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: the College Football Hall of Fame.

767
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: That's kind of weird. Like it's kind of weird.

768
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: I mean college Football Hall of Fame has been around

769
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: since nineteen fifty one.

770
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: So just when you.

771
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: Look at just those guys just collegiate careers, I mean

772
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: when the kid of you comes out because we were

773
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: a lot younger when those guys were playing, Like, what

774
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: are some memories that come to mind?

775
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Steve Hutchinson, it is kind of the

776
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: one that comes to mind the most, just having you know,

777
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: you watch Big Ten football. I mean growing up around here,

778
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: you watch Big Ten football every Saturday, and those Michigan

779
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: teams with they just roll those linemen out off the

780
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: assembly line every year. It's those big road grader type

781
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: linemen that Steve Hutchinson was that. I mean, Michigan has

782
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: cranked through those guys and you just I remember watching

783
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: those guys every Saturday with Keith Jackson usually calling games

784
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: from the Big House or Ohio Stadium, or you know,

785
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: whatever it would happen to be. So certainly a lot

786
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: of memories of watching Steve Hudginson, Randy Moss, you kind

787
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: of knew about him. I mean, obviously playing at Marshall.

788
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: It was not on TV quite as much, but there

789
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: was there was all this talk about this kid from

790
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: Marshall that's tearing it up and what could he do

791
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: in the NFL, And it really it's when he gets

792
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: to the Vikings that I remember being a kid seeing

793
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: it and you first get that sense of holy cow,

794
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: this guy is going to change the entire game. But

795
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: obviously the things he did at Marshall and the things

796
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: the numbers he put up there were a great window

797
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: to what it was going to what was going to happen.

798
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: It is interesting that, especially in the case of Randy Moss,

799
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: where it's first ballot Hall of Fame, that they go

800
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: into the NFL Hall of Fame before the College football

801
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, because neither one of them had you know,

802
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: questionable college careers to be worthy of that honor. So yeah,

803
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: that the timing there is interesting, but you know, all's

804
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 3: well that ends. Well, I guess it's interesting. I kind

805
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: of get it. For him, just for the sheer fact

806
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: that like college football back then was just such a

807
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: different animal. Yeah, it wasn't like the type of publicity.

808
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: You didn't have the ESPN plush channels.

809
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Like you said, It's like so much of those campaigns

810
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and those reputations were built upon word of mouth and

811
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: what you could watch or read in the papers. And

812
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: now you just get on Twitter and you can see

813
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: some guy at a Division III school, you know, take

814
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: take a kickoff back one hundred yards and then they're like,

815
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: whoa what you know, this guy's got something And so

816
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it's just a it almost makes more sense to me

817
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: sure that that it happened to that way.

818
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: But still really both of those guys, No, maybe.

819
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: Just Randy for me, Yeah, because like you said, I

820
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: mean Michigan was is a household name.

821
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: No, I would say more for Randy.

822
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

823
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: It certainly gives more options for players outside of those

824
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: kind of blue blood teams that were on TV all

825
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: the time to make a name for themselves.

826
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 5: As a kid who is an avid Michigan watcher. Yeah,

827
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 5: the Hutch deal was a big deal because he grew

828
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: up in Florida and everyone assumed those were the Miami

829
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 5: Florida State Florida teams, and they assumed like this guy

830
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 5: is going to stay in one of these powerhouse teams,

831
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: and then he decides to go to the Big Ten

832
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: and play for Michigan and everyone's like they got another one,

833
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: you know, kind of a thing for him. The other

834
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: thing with Randy to think about was given all of

835
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 5: the kind of controversy that happened when he got to college, yea,

836
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 5: think what Randy Moss would have been if he was

837
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: playing at Florida State while he was initially so like

838
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: those two guys, same kind of thing, Like you know, Steve,

839
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: which is at a high, high profile place, Randy had

840
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: to kind of jump in there with Pennington and really

841
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 5: kind of make a name for himself. Given all the

842
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: controversial that's happening, it makes more sense with Client Saucer

843
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: being kind of the blue collar guy I grew up

844
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: in North Dakota kind of a thing. And then Toby Gerhart,

845
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah he was. He was an absolute stud

846
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: at Stanford when he was playing as a Sun finalist.

847
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: Yes he was.

848
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: And so that was the other thing, like when we

849
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: got Toby Gerhart here in Minnesota, We're like, wait, we

850
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: got you know, Gearhart, and then you're just kind of

851
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: looking at making those guys, especially at those skill positions,

852
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: making that lead from college where he was so dominant

853
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 5: to the NFL where everyone is as fast as they

854
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 5: are in defense. Toby was another guy that kind of

855
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 5: had issues with injuries and stuff at the time as well.

856
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 5: But there's no denying that any of these guys that

857
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 5: are on this list currently, you know, made their mark

858
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: in college. It just was a little bit different than

859
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: it was in the pros.

860
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I mean it certainly has kind of

861
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: different paths for all three of those guys in one

862
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: way or the other.

863
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: You wonder, like what are the numbers behind Like if

864
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: you are a guy that is going to be a

865
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer NFL, like how when did you get

866
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: into the college one or did you you know, like

867
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe you found I don't know what the stats are,

868
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: but that would be a really interesting like study.

869
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: I guess you could say.

870
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 3: Like Tom Brady, I mean, Tom Brady won a lot

871
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: in Michigan, but they were also trying to give Drew

872
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: Henson that job, yes, for a lot of his time there.

873
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm ready to get.

874
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: Down and I think you have to be All American,

875
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: a first team All American in college, like unanimous, Like

876
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: that's like the first Okay, so Brady.

877
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: May not go into which is not that Aaron Rodgers too. Yeah, yeah,

878
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: you're right.

879
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: But I don't know what's Kirk Cousin. He wasn't an

880
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: All American, but I think so first team. But that's

881
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: the thing to think about. You know, the guys that

882
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: have gone in that you are. Everyone's like, oh yeah, absolutely,

883
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: Vince Young, Reggie Bush, those kind of guys that were

884
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: like the alpha of the Alphas.

885
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: And just made a absolute killing on a Heisman run

886
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 5: through through their college career. Yeah, everyone's less like, oh yeah,

887
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: those guys make total sense. And then you look at

888
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 5: the NFL side and you're just like, wait, how are

889
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: these guys who are just so prolific in the pros

890
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: not in the college Hall of Fame.

891
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Well, I suppose it makes sense just in the fact

892
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: that you have so many of these guys that make

893
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: it to the NFL based on the college careers and

894
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: then don't always pan out in the NFL. It is

895
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: a little bit of different game. So yeah, you're gonna

896
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: have guys. I mean, Tim Tebow is an example, College

897
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame, no doubt NFL.

898
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I still have the funniest meme the other day, and

899
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: it was like Tim Tebow and Eli Manning in front

900
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: of like I think it was Florida Stadium because it

901
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: looked like it was orange, okay, And he's Eli's in

902
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: like dad shorts with his like frat daddy belt and

903
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: is like Polo tucked in with his dad sneakers, just

904
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: looking like Eli.

905
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: And then there's Tim Tebow.

906
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: He's like jacked with this like tight tee workout shorts on,

907
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: and like it said, like one guy's won two Super

908
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Bowls and the other guys.

909
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: I ever read what it was, and it was like football

910
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: player ball.

911
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would like flip it basically because it was

912
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: like this is not what you would expect.

913
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. I loved it.

914
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: Let alone Eli beating the Patriots right right during that era.

915
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, really just great stuff.

916
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: Hopefully all those Vike former Vikings get inducted into the

917
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: College Football Hall of Fame just it's not only good

918
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: for their resume, but it also makes the organization look good.

919
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 4: But just speaking of the organization, there's there's some really

920
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: good articles on Vikings dot com right now Craigs three

921
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: observations from OTAs who'll have more on mandatory Mini camp.

922
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: And then Lindsey Young did a really good article. She

923
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: interviewed West Phillips, Vikings offensive coordinator, and the article is

924
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 4: explaining West Phillips explaining his year two steps for this offense.

925
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: So head on over to Vikings dot com to go

926
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: check out those articles. There's also Tatum Everetts Marcus Davenport

927
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: one on one as well as Viking Circle and chopping

928
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: it up. And it leads me to asking you, Yeah, Ben,

929
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: what are some articles or things that you have on

930
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: the horizon for Vikings fans or just the starts review

931
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: fans for them to see.

932
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll have kind of wall to wall

933
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: coverage of mini camp here next week, and daily coverage

934
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: a couple of things every day, and then kind of

935
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: looking at some of the moves that have happened and

936
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: may still happen that will kind of preview Mini camp

937
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: with looking at some of the effects of that and

938
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: some of the players that this creates opportunities for kind

939
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: of like what we've been talking about, so kind of

940
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: looking ahead to some of those things. And then yeah,

941
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: as we get towards the season, obviously, that's kind of

942
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: when we go into full preview mode in terms of

943
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: just rolling out a lot of bigger features with with

944
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: deeper dives into into player profiles and that kind of stuff.

945
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: We'll do some of that in training camp, and then

946
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 3: obviously as we get towards the season, that that week

947
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: before the season is really when we kind of crank

948
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: it full speed in terms of some of the profiles

949
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: and different things that we do. So yeah, there'll be

950
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: there'll be plenty this week, and then you know, we

951
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: all kind of take our break and then we'll be

952
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: ready to roll with our with our.

953
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: Crew, unless they make some moves and keep you busy

954
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: during your break.

955
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: I close circuit Cucy if you're listening to this, if

956
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: you can get those done uh later, especially not I'm

957
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: running Grandma's marathon a week from Saturday, so if we

958
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: can bequiat, then that would be a lot that'd be appreciated.

959
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: He listens every week.

960
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: So, yes, are you a big marathon runner?

961
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Speaker 3: This will be my first one in fourteen years, But

962
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: I'm a big runner. I coach high school track and

963
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: cross country, so I spend a lot of time running

964
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 3: shorter stuff, but this will be the first one in

965
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 3: quite a while.

966
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: Wow, how do you prepare?

967
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: Like?

968
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 2: What have you been doing?

969
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: You run a lot, you that's the biggest thing. You

970
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: run a lot, but.

971
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Speaker 4: You never run twenty six miles leading up to The

972
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: longest I've gone is twenty two ahead of time. So

973
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: there is that thing.

974
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Speaker 3: Of Okay, it's going to be a little bit more difficult,

975
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: but I mean you work on weights and core and

976
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: all that stuff and just trying to At this point,

977
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: it's just trying to keep your body healthy and hope

978
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: that you don't know, step on, step off a curve

979
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: of the wrong That's the thing. Honestly for me, it's

980
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: just like as you get so close to it, it's like, man,

981
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: if I stub my toe the wrong way. Yeah, you

982
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: do all of this training. It kind of makes you

983
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: a little more sympathetic to Olympic athletes that prepare for

984
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: four years for one one thing moment. It's just like, man,

985
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: any any little thing could could go wrong. So you're

986
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: just kind of saying, let's, you know, just pray you

987
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: stay healthy and you're fresh, getting ready to go, and

988
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: kind of let it all, let it all rip. Next Saturdays.

989
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: As long as you're feeling good on the starting line, well,

990
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: good luck.

991
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 4: I think I got a couple of them employees running

992
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 4: in that. Yeah, that's a great race, so so good

993
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: luck to you, good luck to everyone involved.

994
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us today, man, thanks for having me.

995
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: It's always a lot of fun for Ben, Tatum and Jay.

996
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Speaker 4: My name is Gabe Henderson. We'll talk to you next week.