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Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag

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Speaker 2: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shane Shae. I

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Speaker 4: He's not big, he's huge. He's just enormous.

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Speaker 3: He's a legendary sports journalist, a feature commentator, premier analyst,

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Speaker 3: famed host, veterman, reporter, podcast actor, writer, executive producer, businessman,

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 4: We're here, We're here, but you keep not bracelet. I

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Speaker 5: Ain't know I could break anything on you. Coused right there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, I mean I don't if I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: Ye, Bro, how you doing?

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Speaker 5: It's good to see bro. How you doing? Be here?

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Speaker 5: I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I need you to tell the people what you went

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Speaker 3: night and I said, Stephen, and can you do Tuesday

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Speaker 4: And you said, I do it.

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Speaker 3: But I want you to tell the people the lengths

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Speaker 1: Well, what happened is is that my pastor for the

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Speaker 1: had a fundraising event at a golf tournament in Long Island, right,

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Speaker 5: For every one s.

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Speaker 1: Nothing I know, nothing I know, but for every one

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I know you talk about your pastor, but everybody that

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Speaker 3: That's right, And I need to get you a bottle

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Speaker 5: Around with that, I mean, he know I could get

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Speaker 4: Nothing else.

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Speaker 3: What I want to told you, Bro, because you paid

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Speaker 1: Coming from an HBCU obviously is a very very big deal.

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Speaker 5: That's something that's near and dead of my heart.

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Speaker 1: I've been an ambassador for HBCU week since around two

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Speaker 1: And all he ever said to me was when I said,

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Speaker 1: He said, don't forget HBCUs you make sure that you help.

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Speaker 5: Any chance you get. And that's what I've been doing.

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Speaker 5: A career is doing what you want to do. It

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so for me, if you don't have an education,

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Speaker 1: There are abnormal examples, of course, there's always somebody that

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Speaker 5: So I understood the climb.

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Speaker 1: I understood the obstacles that I had to that I

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Speaker 4: Did you always want to go to an HBCU or

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Speaker 5: Happened, bro it just happened.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know what an HBCU was until they

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Speaker 5: I had no clue.

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Speaker 3: I heard about the United Negro College Funds, that's what

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Speaker 5: You know, Robinson. But that was about it.

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Speaker 1: Because the fact is that when you took at HBCUs,

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Speaker 1: So if you're living in those places, you simply don't

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Speaker 3: And you know what, I caught a lot of criticism

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Speaker 4: Had I made, had I not been prop forty eight?

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Speaker 3: I mean I had Georgia, I had Texas, I had Nebraska,

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Speaker 4: He said, son, if you good, they'll find you. He said.

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Speaker 4: If I was drafting, he said, I'll take you no

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Speaker 3: He convinced me. And when I had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: I'm like, love ain't nothing like being surrounded by your

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Speaker 4: The pageantry then home comes.

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Speaker 5: God just don't understand. They just don't understand. I mean,

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Speaker 3: The band played the whole game. He ain't know where

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Speaker 5: Just bring back memories. He's bring They tell you something. Man, Listen,

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Speaker 1: You hear me can play about a lot of things

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Speaker 5: Going to HBC.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: It's the greatest experience I've ever had in my life.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something right now. I had a

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Speaker 1: He had to convince me to graduate on time. I

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Speaker 1: that's how that's how much I was living the life

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Speaker 5: I was like, have you ever heard of spell? Yes?

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Speaker 5: I have, yes, right down the blood, that's right down

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Speaker 5: the blood.

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Speaker 3: Okay, lially just started and look, Atlanta has always been Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: That's right. It just exploded in.

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Speaker 3: The last twenty but Atlanta was back Atlanta back in

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Speaker 1: In the eighties, Atlanta was like that, how about that?

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Speaker 1: And then on top of it all, check this out.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta take a route. If you're going down,

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Speaker 4: And he started writing on the board. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: A lot of times people don't see themselves are putting

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Speaker 5: She said. He doesn't listen with things he's not interested in.

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Speaker 3: You sound like an athlete. If you've heard athletes say it,

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Speaker 5: Of this whatever.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like this, they have no chance.

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Speaker 3: But people think it's easy. Everybody can't talk on camera.

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Speaker 5: First take. I ain't asked for the job. I didn't

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: It ain't like they throwing extra money my way for this,

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Speaker 1: They're like, why they say, you're producing the damn show anyway?

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Speaker 1: because the objective is the show. It's not me, it's

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Speaker 5: Them and the real amen.

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Speaker 1: wasn't at the beginning. At the beginning, I was a

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Speaker 1: lot like that. But as time went on, you're just

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Speaker 1: seeing it. You're saying, well, wait a minute.

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Speaker 5: Why did you the quarterback this person I've always That's

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Speaker 5: what I say.

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Speaker 3: See for me, I got look, I know what everybody's

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Speaker 3: supposed to do back, but I focus on them on

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Speaker 3: my job now if I need to tell somebody a

449
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Speaker 3: route or they need to pay this, blitz you high

450
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Speaker 3: or you got a block.

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Speaker 1: Well you show the world that what you wanted on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Then you like, yeah, that's what you're going to do.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that to me is my job.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, like when you say

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Speaker 3: like these viral and people ask like when do you

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Speaker 3: know what you're gonna say a lot of times when

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Speaker 3: stuff goes viral, I.

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Speaker 4: Had no idea because I don't know what he's gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Right, you don't know what everybody's gonna say, but sometimes

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Speaker 3: he just it just happens. A moment happens. How much

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Speaker 3: is just reactionary or because like I said, you have

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Speaker 3: a lot of different You have mad Dog, you have

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Speaker 3: Ryan Clark, you have d O, you have swag Goop.

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Speaker 4: You have so many different people.

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to get a beat or rhythm to

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Speaker 3: what they're gonna say if.

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Speaker 5: You don't know them, okay, and if you don't know the.

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Speaker 1: Audience okay, And so what happens is I know what

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Speaker 1: the audience wants from Ryan Clark, I know what it

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Speaker 1: wants from swag Gul, I know what it wants from Molly.

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Speaker 1: I know what it wants from Mad Dog. I know

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Speaker 1: what it was from Latsky. I know what it wants

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Speaker 1: from Shannon Sharp.

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Speaker 5: For the purposes of that show.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm looking at Shannon Sharp and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: and three times.

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Speaker 5: To Bowl champion. That's one of the greatest tight ends

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Speaker 5: in NFL history. That's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: And damn it, he laughed, and he's boisterous. He gonna

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Speaker 1: come right at you and all of this other stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what they want, and this is what they're

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Speaker 1: going to get right now. You don't want to give

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Speaker 1: it to them too much all in one bowl, right,

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Speaker 1: Want spread it out, he says, want s freaking it out.

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Speaker 1: You want a little bit here, a little bit there.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's ten, ten fifteen o'clock. Boom, ten fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Here we come. Do Momentum is swelling all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: There might be a little bit too much. Might want

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Speaker 1: dollar back a little bit because we're coming at eleven.

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Speaker 5: Then might come at eleven fifteen. He We're coming at

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Speaker 5: eleven thirty. See that's how I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, yeah, I want you to shine,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to. I want you to beat

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Speaker 1: you because I'm gonna beat me, right, And so here

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Speaker 1: we come and the audience is watching.

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Speaker 5: How do you know that because you paid attention.

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Speaker 1: To the audience, You're not sitting up there manipulating them,

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Speaker 1: You're not disrespecting them. You're showing them you appreciate them

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Speaker 1: because you're paying attention to what they're telling you and

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Speaker 1: showing you they want a lot of times you have

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Speaker 1: talent and it's like, listen, this is my lane and

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Speaker 1: there's something to be said about that where you know

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Speaker 1: who you are and you know what you bring. That's

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Speaker 1: not to be disrespected, that's to be appreciated. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: his strength. Well if I have a different strength, how

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Speaker 1: do I get to compliment that so he can shine.

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Speaker 5: While we shine?

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Speaker 1: That is the objective when you're trying to win, and

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Speaker 1: it's applicable on a football field, on a quarter play,

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Speaker 1: or on a television set. But how many people are

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Speaker 1: thinking like that? I'll tell you who.

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Speaker 5: The winners think like that, the losers don't. It's very simple.

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I want to address some comments that you said, because

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Speaker 3: you said condolence is in advance. Yep, he's the modern

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Speaker 3: day black hole. He's not used to getting beat down.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the beat down.

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Speaker 1: Well let me tell you, let me elaborate. First of all,

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Speaker 1: obviously I was about physically.

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Speaker 5: I got no shot. I got no shot. I mean,

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Speaker 5: let's get that out the way right now. Let's get

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Speaker 5: that out of the way right now. Saying let's get

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Speaker 5: that out of the way right now. I will not

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Speaker 5: talk about back. I got no shot whatsoever. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I've seen you. I've seen you debate quite all. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I'm.

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Speaker 1: You could do your thing. But you know you ain't

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Speaker 1: never been up against me. You say this little a

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Speaker 1: little different going up against me. You see what happens

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Speaker 1: is you got people that are trying to win.

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Speaker 5: The debate, to be right, false.

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Speaker 1: It's about your perspective up against mine, and who can

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Speaker 1: convince the audience their perspective is better than the next.

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Speaker 5: That's what it's about. You see a lot of times

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Speaker 5: somebody get like somebody that.

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Speaker 1: Is a mistake to argue with Shannon's shop about the

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Speaker 1: facts of football. You don't do that, not if you

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Speaker 1: didn't play Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: Please, you got no shot. But you can't go like

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Speaker 5: she knows something. I was really nice. I heard what

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Speaker 5: you said, but you see you said this two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: That not consistent with what I just heard. You saw

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Speaker 5: this game right now. I'm not you, but damn it,

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Speaker 5: I got two eyes. I saw that. Are you telling

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Speaker 5: me what I saw was a lot?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 5: You're sure about that? What did you say this a

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Speaker 5: year ago? You see?

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Speaker 1: These are the kind of things like you know you

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Speaker 1: obviously you know you love yourself some Lebron James. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just got the foe with them, JA to remind

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Speaker 1: hung up on that. Yeah, the blastphe me coming out

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Speaker 1: of your mouth, right, it's okay, you can believe.

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Speaker 5: That, you can believe that.

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Speaker 3: But we'll do I'm sure you know what the first

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Speaker 3: Lebron topic right, don't need to be nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna hurt you. Here's what's gonna hurt you,

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Speaker 1: because you see when you're talking like that, people but that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit back and let you do it, and

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Speaker 1: then i'm gonna say you finish, are you figuring?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna be like nah, And I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: you gotta wait now because I waited here I come,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with the tsunami that

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna rain down upon you when

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Speaker 1: it comes especially to that, and that's what's it, and

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to. Listen, Lebron, listen, I

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Speaker 1: got this man. The game was started in nineteen forty seven.

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Speaker 1: I got Lebron James. The thousands of players that have

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Speaker 1: played in the NBA, I got him number two all time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got people walking around like that's disrespect.

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Speaker 5: It is. I got a number. See see that's emotion.

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Speaker 4: That's a much right there.

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Speaker 5: Listen, let me tell you that right.

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Speaker 1: Now, I personally believe a legitimate argument could be made

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Speaker 1: that I'm sitting in front of the greatest tight end

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Speaker 1: in the history of football. Some people bring in Gronk,

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Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez, other players them in Travis kelf course, but

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Speaker 1: you're in the conversation yourself, and you know because you're breathren.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they give you my.

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Speaker 1: Love and respect, right, I can say that. But my

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Speaker 1: point to you is is that if somebody said you

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Speaker 1: weren't number one, you don't feeling so, so why you

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Speaker 1: got to be insult to the building.

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Speaker 3: Because that's the motion, but the goal.

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Speaker 4: See, you told me your storm was coming.

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Speaker 3: See your storm happened for nine years, then took two

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Speaker 3: years off, and it happened for three years and took

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Speaker 3: another three years off, and then it kind of just

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Speaker 3: was like drizzling my thought storm being going for twenty

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Speaker 3: one years raining.

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Speaker 1: You could say that that my retort to that would

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Speaker 1: be six NBA Finals losses, six final losses on six

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Speaker 1: finals losses.

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Speaker 3: I just want you to tell me one thing, and

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Speaker 3: we going to make this. Sure, tell me the team

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Speaker 3: that he faced that was the twenty seventeen or the

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 5: What you mean, I don't want to say your question

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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Tell me the team with Michael Jordans.

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Speaker 3: I want you to tell me the team that Michael

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Speaker 3: Jordan faced that was the equivalent of the seventeen eighteen No.

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Speaker 5: One can I respond to that? Sure? Can I say why? No? One?

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Speaker 5: Do you know why? Because none? No, that's exactly what Okay,

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Speaker 5: ce ce cee.

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Speaker 1: That's the ultimate equalizer or usurper picked whichever one you

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Speaker 1: want to you want to pick. You don't understand that

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Speaker 1: Jordan is six and ohe NBA fronals. You understand that

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Speaker 1: Jordan was m VP O six NBA Frontal. Do you

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Speaker 1: understand that Jordan never even allowed a final series to

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Speaker 1: go seven games?

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Speaker 5: Senate never win seven game?

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Speaker 3: Also, I also know he just started going to the

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Speaker 3: finals because I burned back excusually.

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Speaker 1: Ten time NBA scoring Champion, nine time All Defensive Player,

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Speaker 1: all the defensive first Team.

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Speaker 5: You do know that, right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So, so in other words, it was Lebron on both

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Speaker 1: sides of ball.

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Speaker 5: Was he that dominant? Oh? He was?

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Speaker 4: You know he should have won it?

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Speaker 5: You know he should want you are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Seven?

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Speaker 4: I will give me this.

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Speaker 3: You know, Goodwell, Lebron James should have one defensive Player

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Speaker 3: of the year. How do how does margins All, who's

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Speaker 3: the second team All defensive player, be defensive Player of

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Speaker 3: the Year.

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Speaker 5: I agree with that. I agree with that. But the

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Speaker 5: flip side to it.

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Speaker 1: Is that as we watched Lebron James, even with his

635
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Speaker 1: greatness at one point in time as a defensive player,

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Speaker 1: we never.

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Speaker 5: Looked at him and said, oh my god, that's that dude.

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Speaker 5: Defensively you had you had no. Lebron is universally respected

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Speaker 5: and revered. MJ was feared. You know the difference.

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Speaker 1: You know the difference because there are people who have

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Speaker 1: feared you.

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Speaker 5: You know the difference better than me. You know the

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Speaker 5: difference between reverence and fear.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know this. You like John Wick.

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Speaker 5: I like James John can I have jameson, but you

646
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Speaker 5: could be John Wacke. I preferred James Bond.

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Speaker 4: John shot up the whole place, kill everybody.

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Speaker 3: Okay, James Bond killed a few people, but got the ladies.

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Speaker 1: They do the same, Rightmry was walking talking out the

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Speaker 1: ocean and he said, magnificent Deale. Remember that smaller and

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Speaker 1: that was where you know that that's that's stuff and

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Speaker 1: stuff like Pierce Bronston.

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Speaker 5: But you know Daniel Craig of course, Sean.

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Speaker 1: Connery demand Okay, I mean I'm trying to say the

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Speaker 1: versatility of James Bond is with JS and you could

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Speaker 1: say that, but could.

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Speaker 4: Guard one through five. You seen him do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not denying that park on one end and the

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Speaker 1: last five minutes la I got Timmy. I also saw

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Speaker 1: him get checked when Jason Terry was guarding him in

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Speaker 1: the post and his finals against Dallas.

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Speaker 5: You go deny that, No, Okay, then, so that's your question.

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Speaker 1: Has there ever been a time when Michael Jordan showed

664
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Speaker 1: up in an NBA finals.

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Speaker 5: And you literally looked at him and said, yo, he show.

666
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Speaker 3: Up playing nobody. Let me ask your question. I'm gonna

667
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Speaker 3: do you like this here? Tell me the guy that

668
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Speaker 3: he faced that deal were the equivalent of Kevin Durant

669
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Speaker 3: and Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say the equivalent of of

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 5: But let's go down the list. He beat Magic for

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Speaker 5: his first time back.

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Speaker 4: What's seventy three?

676
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Speaker 1: Okay, I find I'm going I'm going down the list

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Speaker 1: the list. I didn't hear you say that when Magic

678
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: was here, but we're talking about you.

679
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: Didn't say that Magic was he.

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Speaker 4: The man that on the ninth nine finals?

681
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Speaker 5: And I feel you on that.

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Speaker 1: And by the way he took wasn't Kareem and worthy

683
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Speaker 1: in that?

684
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: But you saw what he did but joined in the

685
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: first game put a triple double on the head and

686
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: put on it. That's cool, Okay, say he backed them

687
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: made look like Kareem Tom Will Jones fit.

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Speaker 5: That's fair.

689
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Speaker 1: Michael Joe, I'm sorry, Magic Johnson. The first title, Clyde

690
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Drexler and the Crew. The second title, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson,

691
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: don't ignore that, damn Mally and them. The third Okay, okay,

692
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Peyton the Glove with Sean Camp and also you've got

693
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Speaker 1: call Malone John Stockton, and you have an NBA game

694
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: that was considerably tougher at that particular moment in time

695
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Speaker 1: than today's NBA game.

696
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: Is in terms of physicality and what's allowed. Yes, so

697
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Speaker 5: you can appreciate this.

698
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: You can. I appreciate that before you could.

699
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: Put your when you could put your four onmre people,

700
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Speaker 5: when you can hand check.

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Speaker 1: Them, when you can do a lot of things you

702
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: can't do now right now you get caught.

703
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: For passing gas. You will, But it's a different game now, Okay.

704
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Speaker 3: What you and the Old School Guard have equated physicality

705
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: with talent and skill, the.

706
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Speaker 4: Gathering game more skill.

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Speaker 5: I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that.

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Speaker 1: But you would know this better than me because you

709
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Speaker 1: were an All world player. Even though the game of

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Has evolved significantly, You.

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Speaker 1: Know good and damn well that if you were playing

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Speaker 1: in this time, Oh yeah, you would have adapted. Yes,

714
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: you played in that time. You adapted the game in

715
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Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, you would have adapted to no time.

716
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say to you is this,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was what he needed to be.

718
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 5: If he was playing today, he would.

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Speaker 1: Be what he needed to be in order to be

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Speaker 1: successful today.

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: When you see greatness on that level, you have to

723
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Speaker 1: concede that that's the case.

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Speaker 3: But see all they asked Michael do with the cook

725
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Speaker 3: Lebron had to cook, he had to clean, he had

726
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Speaker 3: to wait tables to take order.

727
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Well, you could say that, But what I'm saying that

728
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: if the brother's doing it on both sides of the Florida,

729
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: then obviously he's doing more than one thing.

730
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Speaker 4: He's doing that too. But how many guys you know

731
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: that on Top five and Top five?

732
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Speaker 5: How about this?

733
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Speaker 1: How about once you Quille O'Neil with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson,

734
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Speaker 1: three D, Dennis Scott and those boys, yeah, Waring Orlando, Right.

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Speaker 5: How about the fact that.

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Speaker 1: They could even get the ball pass half court because

737
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan had him on locket. Yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: with full corp press, we end. Never see Lebron do that.

739
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: We never see Lebron do that. Bron that you stop it.

740
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Speaker 1: He never did it, youmember, he never did it. You

741
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: remember with d Rose with the m v P, y'all

742
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Speaker 1: voted d Roll the.

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Speaker 5: M v P. What do excuse me? Excuse me, d Rose?

744
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: What kind of team did y you come? Tell me?

745
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 5: Knowing those boys was appoint number?

746
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Speaker 4: They did enough to get the number one seed? That

747
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: so what you're a.

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Speaker 1: I voted him in VP and still picked Miami to

749
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Speaker 1: win that series. I knew they want to go be

750
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Speaker 1: Miami in the Best of seventh. The playoffs are different,

751
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: all right, But that don't mean Lebron deserve the MVP.

752
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Speaker 5: I know.

753
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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't even knock Lebron James for

754
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Speaker 1: not getting the MVP, because when you're that great, you're

755
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: not gonna put all your efforts in over eighty two games.

756
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Speaker 5: You're playing for April Man and j So this is

757
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: entirely plausible. I'm very fair of Lebron ja your.

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Speaker 1: Dollars sometimes most times most times, actually I say all

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Speaker 1: it's just that I call it like I see it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not emotional like you. No, no, I.

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Speaker 4: I you know what I got a call to day

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Speaker 4: for one Michael Jordan. He rolled up on me in

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Speaker 4: a black ass UV roll the win.

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Speaker 5: Of that's true, that's true. Yeah, I was scary. I

765
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: thought he was. I thought I thought it was a

766
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Speaker 5: drive It was in them drive by, scared of living

767
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 5: hell out of me.

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Speaker 4: You still say that.

769
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Speaker 1: Mean that's that That's an absolutely true story. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, all I'm trying to say

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Speaker 1: is that Lebron is phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: He's great. We should throw no shade on him.

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest ever Top b top three, you say, one.

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Speaker 5: Of pH he will never be greater than Jordan to me.

775
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: But more importantly, let's go to Koreem Nineteen time All Star,

776
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: six time league MVP champion on the high school left.

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Speaker 5: Champion, champion in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good lord at Merka Fall, time leading scorer before

779
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Lebron's had passed him, all of that stuff happened. I'm

780
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: just saying, come on now, the resume is better, But

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Speaker 1: I still don't believe he was the player that Lebron

782
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Speaker 1: James is. All right, But what I hold, and I'll

783
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: say this to you, I'll tell you something that I've

784
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: very really said. If you took Lebron james career from

785
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: twenty twelve to now, and that was his history from

786
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: his first title to what he is now, and you

787
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Speaker 1: wanted to make an argument against Jordan, I'm listening. The

788
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: problem is we don't get to ignore those first seven

789
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: or eight years where there were a couple of occasions

790
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: where one he was accused of quitting and number and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

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00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 4: By the no, I don't believe that you are drunkard.

793
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, I'm talking about this. God, I

794
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: got you, but I feel you. But it's true, but

795
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: it's still excusing drunken. But the point is.

796
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Against Boston. I don't believe that it was a lot

797
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: of stuff going on in Braun. That's none of our business.

798
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: That people they were totally unfair to him, including his

799
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Speaker 1: damn teammates.

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Speaker 5: But that's a different story for another day. I never

801
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 5: held that against him.

802
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: But when you got four games against the Dallas Mavericks

803
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: in which people looked at you and said, choke. If

804
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: you know what you cannot get past, I can't.

805
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: I can't argue that I can't.

806
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: And that to me, that to me sealed the deal

807
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Speaker 1: about the MJ Lebron comp So what what.

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Speaker 4: What if he were to win a title this year

809
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: thirty nine years of.

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Speaker 5: Age, So so that on the race Jordan that.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: See, that's the argument that people have when I was

813
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: talking about Tom Brady not playing well.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to take away with Jordan's accomplished.

815
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Speaker 3: Agree, he got those rings, he got six finals MVP,

816
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: he has six championship, he has five regular season MVP.

817
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Right if Lebron gets another title, stephen A, I'm not

818
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 3: gonna raise what Jordan did, but he already he already

819
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: here for.

820
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: Me, Okay, all he doing is just But but.

821
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is I already talked about

822
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: the Dallas thing, and I talked about moments which you

823
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: can appreciate. What I'm trying to say to you is

824
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: that when you are that dude, that doesn't happen to

825
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: you often that happened to Magic when they called them tragic,

826
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: Because yeah, four you get all of that under sad

827
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but for the most part, that doesn't happen.

828
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Speaker 1: And this is the kind of thing that you also

829
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to as well. Not only do

830
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: you not get to say that about Jordan. But when

831
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Speaker 1: you look at Lebron, think about this. You want me

832
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: to tell you what I hold against him, just as

833
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: much as I held against the Dallas performance. What the

834
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: following year with the All Star Game. You got the

835
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Speaker 1: ball in your hands. It's an exhibition. It's an exhibition.

836
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 5: It doesn't count. It's all in fun. Kobe claps his hand,

837
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: God Rest his soul. He's like, YO, listen, come on

838
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 5: with it. You got d Wade on the court, you

839
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: got Mellow in the corner, and he threw the past,

840
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: and all three of them, along with Kobe, descended on

841
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: Lebron and said, yo.

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00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: What's up what you're doing? Because they knew he was

843
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: psyched out, he was messed up. And what I'm saying

844
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: to you is that Kobe wasn't like that, MJ wasn't

845
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: like that.

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 5: It's d Wade wasn't like that.

847
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: In his first NBA Finals appearance, they down owe to

848
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: to Dallas. E Wade goes berserk, averages thirty seven in

849
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Speaker 1: the last four games.

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 5: I'm just saying this stuff like that.

851
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: It's not that you look at Lebron and you diminish him.

852
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: It's just that you can't.

853
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: Elevate him above somebody like MJ.

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00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: When I got that evidence to support my argument, that's all,

855
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 5: and that's why I got him number two author on

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Speaker 5: God strike me down. I mean, my lord, I mean

857
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 5: what it is.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, the number two all time in the

859
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: history of the game.

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00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 5: And it's an insult. Only you and Rich Paul and

861
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: people like.

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: That feel that way, most of us saying individuals know better.

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00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 4: No, let me ask you this.

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I have conversation, and people like, well,

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00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: how closely you're Stephen there? I said, I met him

866
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen when I came on the show. I said,

867
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: we've talked over the here, we exchanged numbers, and we've

868
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 3: talked over the years. But I said, over the last

869
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: year and a half or so, I was going through

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: some things and he was the one guy that was

871
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: in this business that I felt I could talk to.

872
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: It would stay between us, but he would give me

873
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: sound advice. And so now you have your thing with

874
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: First Take. You you are the voice, you are the

875
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: face of First Take, You're the first face of ESPN.

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: What made you reach out say?

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00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: Bro? I want you because I got love for you, Bro,

878
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: And that's that's just me being a man and speaking

879
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 5: his two brothers. You know, you know our former boss

880
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: at first take, Jamie Hardwiz, who was over brought you

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00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: over that first one and all of that, and he

882
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: knows my history, he knows what I stand for. I

883
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 5: remember when I first You can ask him.

884
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I remember when I first arrived on first take and

885
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: I rolled up in there and I saw a bunch

886
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: of white folks, and I said, Yo, we're the brothers

887
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: and the sisters that you don't think I'm gonna be

888
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: sitting here working with a bunch of white folks.

889
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: Do you.

890
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't mind white folks. I ain't got nothing against y'all.

891
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: God bless you. You understand saying we all brothers and sisters

892
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: the eyes of God. When all of a sudden, dumb

893
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: but you ain't gonna just have me surrounded by a

894
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: bunch of lily white folks. You better sprinkle, sprinkle some And.

895
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 5: So you know, he brought one.

896
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: And then the next thing, you know, I picked two

897
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: or three others and made sure to diversify that staff.

898
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: And then one of the things that I did when

899
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: I came in there, I knew SKIP was going to

900
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: want to debate me and whatever, but I was talking

901
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: about subject matters that we needed to broach because it

902
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: was still his show. But he respected me enough to

903
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: get my opinion, and I was like, look, we need

904
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: all of these other people because I want voices, and

905
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm built. What I mean by that is

906
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: there's no shade on you, on anybody else. But I

907
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: don't believe anybody's knocking me off my perch. I will

908
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: knock me off my perch.

909
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 5: You know, corporate stuff, bureaucratic stuff, that's stuff you can't

910
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 5: you know.

911
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about in terms of my own air performance,

912
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: my job performance. I don't worry about it. You know

913
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: what I worry about the day that I want to leave.

914
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: And I haven't done anything to create opportunities for us

915
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: to continue. And so for me, it's like I look

916
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: at you, I think that you're smart, You're obviously incredibly accomplished.

917
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: You ain't gonna never.

918
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Hear me say no disrespect to anybody, not to bring

919
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: up nothing.

920
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: Ain't gonna never hear.

921
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Me say three super Bowl championships, a Hall of Fame

922
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: status don't mean nothing.

923
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 5: I don't roll like that. That's not who I am.

924
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: I'm the kind of person.

925
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: That I argue with you about football, but I want

926
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: the audience to know, Yo, you the football expert, right.

927
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: Not me.

928
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm the reporter that walks in and I'm like that

929
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: what I saw, and tell me I'm wrong.

930
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: This is what I'm seeing. Tell me I'm wrong. This

931
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: is where I'm comforting, just like me and you talking

932
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: about that. I know you.

933
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't give damn how much basketball you know, you

934
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: don't know no more of basketball than me. I've been coming.

935
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: I learned from living legends and all this stuff, but

936
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: I still want to hear what you have to say.

937
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: You can listen to me talk to football. Why the

938
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: hell can I listen to you talk about basketball? And

939
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: so all of that and then your heart being conscientious brother,

940
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: caring about the issues that you're caring about, speaking about

941
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: the issues that you speak about. Now, brothers iron sharp

942
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: as iron and yeah, I got mad Dog Russo that's white.

943
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I got Dan Olofski. That's a white dude. You see

944
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, Jeff Saturday at one time

945
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: he was on the show. That's a white man. But

946
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, I want it all. I want

947
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: to make sure there's brothers, the sisters, black and white, ethnic,

948
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, Hispanics, Asian.

949
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: I don't give damn who it is.

950
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're representing America and we

951
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: make sure that everybody that looks at our show says

952
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I can identify with what they're saying. But in the end,

953
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to me personally, you know whether it's

954
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, it's Marcus Spears, all right, it's Damian Woody,

955
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: it's Lewis Riddick, The list goes on, and nor my brother,

956
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin. That's now Aver, That's that's one key, Shawn Johnson.

957
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: These are my boys.

958
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: I go back decades with these, These are my brothers.

959
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They will tell you. You

960
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: ask anybody that knows me.

961
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm about getting you paid, I'm about helping you become successful.

962
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm about letting you shine. I'm not threatened by anybody's appearance.

963
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: It's my obligation.

964
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: But you've heard it, you do it. You've heard the comments. Yes, man,

965
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: Steven a man, he's strong. Will he bragged blah blah

966
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: blah like Shannon strong will.

967
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. How is that gonna work.

968
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: They don't know.

969
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 4: They don't tell people.

970
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, two people that strong will can absolutely get

971
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: along as long as there's respect. Absolutely, the moment one

972
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: disrespects the other, the other losers respect for the one

973
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: that disrespected him.

974
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: Right, So now it's just a matter of time exactly.

975
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: And that's not gonna happen because I don't roll like that.

976
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I'm gonna argue with you about your points,

977
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: but you know what, we gonna agree. We gonna disagree,

978
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we brothers, and

979
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: we gonna sit up there and try to do what

980
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: we can to make our product shine. That's our responsibility

981
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: because if we do, if we do otherwise, all we're

982
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: doing is inhibiting the other success. Right, We're getting in

983
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: the way of what we're trying to do. That makes

984
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: no sense whatsoever. And not only that, that's setting a

985
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: bad example of our community. If I really need to

986
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: get deep about it, because what happens is is that

987
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: always so they can't chill, they can't sit up there

988
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: and do a show together.

989
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: They can't get along.

990
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: You see that crabs in the barrel mentality blah blah blah,

991
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: nah man, we showing something different, you know, first take,

992
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I've been blessed and fortunate enough throwing shade on nobody.

993
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: We've been number one for twelve years. We gonna be

994
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: number one for thirteen. It's just that simple at fourteen,

995
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: and damn it, if I do it for fifteen, gonna

996
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: be fifteen. That's the way that's gonna be. That's how

997
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: my mentality is. And I don't root for anybody to fail.

998
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: I just root to be the best.

999
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: Right, And there's a difference.

1000
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: And as far as I'm concerned, anybody that's with me,

1001
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: we the best. This is what we're gonna do. So

1002
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: now it's we. It ain't Stephen the it's weak. And

1003
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: when you come to first take, because you ain't start yet,

1004
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it's a family. You gonna see. We

1005
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: get along. It ain't fake. We rolled with one another,

1006
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: We vibe for one another, We watch one another's back.

1007
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: It has always been that way under my stewardship of

1008
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: the show. And I can say my stewardship of.

1009
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 5: The show because the show was handed to me. They

1010
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 5: ain't come to me and I just took the title

1011
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 5: and off. No, they came to me. And said it's yours.

1012
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 5: You're responsible for it.

1013
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: If I didn't want share this shop at first take,

1014
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: show won't.

1015
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: Be a first take rolled, no question.

1016
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: But I had to come out that day because with

1017
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: all that you were behind.

1018
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: See what you're saying now is that you told me

1019
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: month in advance, because you were telling me things that

1020
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: were going on at Park Hell, I didn't know it.

1021
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, ho on, I drive this building every day.

1022
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: How the hell you know what?

1023
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: I don't know you and you telling me, Bro, it's

1024
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: going down like this, it's happening like this, and I'm

1025
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: just scratching my head. I'm like, I'm at this building

1026
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 3: every day and everybody cheezing?

1027
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: Reason?

1028
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 5: Was I right?

1029
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: You was absolutely spot on?

1030
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 5: And tell you I was right, you know.

1031
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, it wasn't because a fox, It's

1032
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: because I know the business. I've been here for thirty years.

1033
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: I can see them all away, you know. I can

1034
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: see the hand writing on the wall. I knew when

1035
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: it was over for you, Bro, I'm gonna be real

1036
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: with you. I knew when it was over, and I

1037
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: was like, I'm here.

1038
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, Because because I knew what

1039
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 5: was gonna happen.

1040
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: What happens is when you got noise and we gonna

1041
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: call it like I'm gonna call it like I see it.

1042
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: You don't want to do this, let me do it,

1043
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: all right, because I've been in the business long enough.

1044
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: When you're black and you have the kind of evident

1045
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: apparent meaning public situations.

1046
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 5: Like that, we don't win. Everybody circling. The sharks are circling.

1047
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: Now it's not one person and it's not you know,

1048
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: the collusion going on. Instinctually, people tend to believe this

1049
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: belief thisbelieved.

1050
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 5: That and the sharks are circling. And that's why I

1051
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: came out.

1052
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: You know the number one reason I came out, even

1053
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: before first tape was even on my mind.

1054
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 5: You know the number one reason.

1055
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: I came out, Shannon Sharp, and I said, I want

1056
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: Shanna Shop on first tape because I wanted the world

1057
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: to know that you will want That was the most

1058
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: important thing to me.

1059
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: I wanted the world.

1060
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want you to be in a situation where

1061
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: the sports world looked at you.

1062
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 5: And said, what do you do? He must have done

1063
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 5: something persona un ground blah blah blah blah blah. So

1064
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: I said I said, if he ends up, he ends

1065
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 5: up here. The hanchos know I want him.

1066
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: But more importantly than that, this is a brother that

1067
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I think has done a lot of good work on

1068
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: television that has helped our community. And as a result,

1069
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: it's incumbing upon me because of the perch that I

1070
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: sit on to let them know he wanted right, don't

1071
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: cut him off, because that's what they did to me

1072
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. They cut me off and

1073
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: left me for dead. Bro, And I'm not talking about ESPN.

1074
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the industry. They cut me off and

1075
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: left me for dead. They thought I was done. They

1076
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: were writing my epitaph and I knew it, and I said,

1077
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: I was blessed and fortunate enough to have enough connections

1078
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: and to do what I do to overcome it. I

1079
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: don't know if this brother does, so let me let

1080
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the world know he has me and we'll go from there.

1081
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: That happened.

1082
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: That absolutely happened like that because you and I was

1083
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: talking and you was like, Bro, I got this, but

1084
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: soon as I get out of this meeting, I'll hit

1085
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: you back. And we were talking twenty minutes, thirty minutes,

1086
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: an hour, and you took every last one of my calls,

1087
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking to myself and I remember getting on

1088
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: the phone calling my sister and I said, like, maybe

1089
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna happen. I say, because it's not coming

1090
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: from inside, It's coming from somebody that I knows the business.

1091
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: And he wouldn't bullegize me, but he told me that

1092
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: it's a ninety five percent chance that is going to happen,

1093
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: and he wants me on his show.

1094
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't want. I think I'm good

1095
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: at what I do.

1096
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: And for him, it did my heart good because I

1097
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: know what you represent in this industry to say I

1098
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: want him on my show. Whatever it is, I don't

1099
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: believe nothing. Look you go back and from when I

1100
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: was with the Broncos for twelve ten years, went to

1101
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: Baltimore for two, back to the Broncos for two CBS

1102
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: for a decade, I would fall for six years now.

1103
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: One person ever said anything bad about Show that he'

1104
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: difficult to work with. He did this that my greatest

1105
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: compliment from players is guys that were on my team

1106
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: said shouting, show off the greatest team I'd ever had.

1107
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: He's my favorite teammate. The way he approached it the

1108
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: way he was. And so for you to come to

1109
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: me and to say what you said when you didn't

1110
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: have to do any of it, and nobody would have

1111
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: held that against you, because, like you said, that's what

1112
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: would have happened, and I heard it. Man, he must

1113
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: have did no, showed up every day on time and

1114
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: did a hell of a job. I remember when Jamie Horwitz,

1115
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: who we were talking about, came to recruit me in

1116
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen in April at the w Hotel. He said,

1117
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna be a star. Yeah, I said, I said, James,

1118
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: I know what he said.

1119
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: Trust me. He says, I know talent.

1120
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 5: It goes deeper than that, because you see Jamie. Whether

1121
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: he wants to tell you this or not, I knew

1122
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 5: back then Skip was auditioned in you because whenever I

1123
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 5: took off, you would be there. Yes, And what Jamie.

1124
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Wouldn't tell anybody is that there were extra days that

1125
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: I would take.

1126
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 5: Off just so Skip could break you on.

1127
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Because again, if you're not creating opportunities for other people,

1128
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: what good are you. My pastor says that I'm not

1129
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: the most religious person in the world. I mean, as

1130
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: promiscuous as I've been in my lifetime, at least for

1131
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: the person I mean, I mean, I am in no position.

1132
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a lot better now over the last

1133
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: over the last decade, and so, but lord, I have

1134
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: my issues, no question about it. And and and you know,

1135
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: my pastor would say all the time, there's no success

1136
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: without a successor. And so when I look at you know,

1137
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: for me, all the brothers that are on the show.

1138
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: One of my proudest moments was when Michael Irvin came

1139
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: last year. And the reason why it was proud because

1140
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: I loved the playmaker. He and I are very very

1141
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: tight with brothers, and I know what his name brings

1142
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: and the.

1143
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 5: Stature that it holds.

1144
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: And so you're thinking that he comes and others are

1145
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: gonna feel alienated.

1146
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 5: But if you watched him when he was on the

1147
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 5: show with us, it was a brotherhood. You see what

1148
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was a brotherhood. You know how great

1149
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 5: he is exactly. But it's like.

1150
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: All of these all I mean, or Lobsky and are

1151
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: C and everybody's regular they wanted to be on the

1152
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: air with him, right, And so my point is is that.

1153
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 5: That's how it's supposed to be. It's like, wait, a minute.

1154
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: The NFL constantly talks about what a brotherhood exists.

1155
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 5: Well, guess what first take is a platform for brotherhood.

1156
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: So when Shannon comes on, yeah, you're gonna be on

1157
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: the air with me, But guess what them brothers gonna

1158
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: slide up in there. Yes, y'all need to be with

1159
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: each other. You need to be next to each other.

1160
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: You need to be, you know, verbally knocking somebody like

1161
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: me upside the head. When I'm coming at y'all like, ye,

1162
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a new journalist.

1163
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: I saw this, look at it, and y'all like, look

1164
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 5: at this guy right here.

1165
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1166
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: I mean, and we're laughing and having a blast.

1167
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: It's entertainment, bro, But it's information, right, Okay, it's perspective.

1168
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: It's serious stuff that needs.

1169
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 4: To be addressed.

1170
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: It's the whole gamut. And think about it.

1171
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: We got the national airwaves for the worldwide leader available

1172
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: to us to disseminate and display our message. I believe,

1173
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: our culture, our perspectives, and put them all on display

1174
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: for everybody to see. To come back or to breaks.

1175
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But the point is, at the end of the day,

1176
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna feel alone. You gonna be there and

1177
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: we gonna be together. Why Because I'm gonna have your back,

1178
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: That's why, and they gonna have your back.

1179
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: And that's the way it's gonna be.

1180
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 3: You know, people ask me it's gonna be will people

1181
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 3: ask me? Stephen A is like, bro, how do you say?

1182
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: What you say? And then Chrischelle, you go to the game.

1183
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: You might be bumping into some of these guys, So

1184
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: how do you handle that situation? I say, if I

1185
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: see them out now, they acknowledge me, I acknowledge them back.

1186
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 4: If they don't, I keep.

1187
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: It moving, keep it moving.

1188
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: I don't make it personal because I don't know these

1189
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 3: guys well enough to make it personal. I'm talking about

1190
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: a given situation. You didn't play good.

1191
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: And last night.

1192
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't diminish anything that you accomplished before last night.

1193
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't diminish anything that you might accomplish moving forward.

1194
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm talking about a specific set of events that happened

1195
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: last night.

1196
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 4: How do you handle that? Stepen Day?

1197
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: Because I know see most of times they look at me,

1198
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: they do a double take. They're like, nah, I'm gonna

1199
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: let that go.

1200
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 5: They don't want that person.

1201
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 4: But with you, I'm thinking it like, man, why you

1202
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 4: say that?

1203
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1204
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I respect any of them who

1205
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: comes up to me man to man in confront. Yes,

1206
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: because if you want to have a conversation. Here's where

1207
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm big on. If I said something publicly and I'm wrong,

1208
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna correct it publicly, thank you. I'm not gonna

1209
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: do something publicly and then apologize privately right now.

1210
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 5: If I'm wrong, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do

1211
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 5: it publicly.

1212
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm a man up because that's the kind of man

1213
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: that I am. That's how my mama raised me to be.

1214
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: The other thing that I'm gonna do. But if I'm right,

1215
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm not budgeing. You ain't gonna scare me, You ain't

1216
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna intimidate me, you ain't gonna phaze me. Let's get

1217
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: it on. Like I tell people all the time, figuringly

1218
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: or otherwise, it's not about getting your ass kicked.

1219
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 5: It's about what.

1220
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: You're willing to take an ass kicking for. You gotta

1221
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: be principled, and you gotta be somebody that's willing to

1222
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: stand on something. And I'm the kind of person THAT'SI

1223
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: understand on something. I'm not trying to get personal. I'm

1224
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: talking about your game, right, Listen. I've seen players do

1225
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: some stuff behind the scenes. Man, I'm walking out of

1226
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: a hotel room whatever, I see whatever.

1227
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: And I'm like this.

1228
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: It ain't a legal or nothing like that, but I'm

1229
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: just going like this. I don't know what you talk about.

1230
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 5: I keep it moving.

1231
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, my business my business some means. But when

1232
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: you shoot two for twenty h that's my my business.

1233
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: Where you losing gage, that's my business. When you sticking

1234
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 5: up the joint, that's my business.

1235
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Wen, you're not showing up in practice, that's my business.

1236
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: When you're sitting there bitching and want and wan in

1237
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: the morning about your money but you ain't earning it,

1238
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: that's my business because that's your career that you've decided

1239
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: to put on public displays.

1240
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: Right.

1241
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 5: That's the difference with your personal business. Man. I always

1242
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 5: got you covered with that, as long as you know.

1243
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: Don't ask me to assist in breaking any laws or

1244
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: anything like that, because I ain't going to jail for

1245
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: your ass it ain't gonna happen. But outside of that,

1246
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, ain't none of my business. I keep it moving.

1247
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: Football.

1248
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 3: You love your team, I'm thinking you like all things

1249
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: New York Stealers.

1250
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: You the Steelers got gonna die hard Steelers fit because

1251
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: the first ding, the first game I ever saw was

1252
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: the Immaculate reception, Wow. When I was six years old,

1253
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: my dad the macular reception Franko Harris against the Raiders,

1254
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: and I fell in love with the Black and Gold.

1255
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: Ever since, I still haven't given Neil o'donald for that interception.

1256
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Through the Lag Brown and Super Bowl. I still am

1257
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: recovering from that. I still have given Ike Taylor for

1258
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: given up a damn touchdown passes the Maarious Thomas that

1259
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: t Bow threw.

1260
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: Don't get me.

1261
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 3: That might have been the worst moment of your own

1262
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 3: that career. That might have been the worst ones eve.

1263
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: Man, listen man.

1264
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: I had Oh my god, I was. I was with

1265
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: a girl I was dating at the time, you know,

1266
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: her fond self and everything, and I had my mind

1267
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: on other things and t Bow connected that pass. I

1268
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: collapsed face first on her living room rug and laid

1269
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: there for two hours.

1270
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: Didn't do nothing at night. Totally ruined my night.

1271
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally ruled to do nothing.

1272
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: I didn't want anything.

1273
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: It was I was so damned depressed of all people

1274
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: and I love him.

1275
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 5: Dealing, He's my friend. But that non throwing Tim.

1276
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: Tebow throws eighty yard touch that pad, I could not

1277
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: believe to save my life that that happened, and I

1278
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: couldn't recover that night, bro I was depressed. But those

1279
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: two moments are my worst as a Steelers feed.

1280
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: So obviously, if you're a Steelers fan, you have to

1281
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: hate the Cowboys because when the seventies, they always met

1282
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, and the Steelers always beat him the.

1283
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 5: Right, the right, Roger Starbuck and Drew.

1284
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: Tony Dorje ass out of here, come in and Stealers

1285
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: took him out. Yes, Bradshaw, Swan star Warts, even Franco

1286
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Harris Well, I really.

1287
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 5: Didn't like that much as a running back, you understand.

1288
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 5: I like Rocky Blant more than I like Franko Harrison.

1289
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 5: He was a full back.

1290
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: But the Steelers and the steel Curtain me and Joe

1291
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: Green L C. Green with Jack Lambert, Jack Han Melt blunting.

1292
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I like, Lord, this is what's all about?

1293
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, steel Yes, I couldn't root for no New York teas.

1294
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 5: They didn't win any terrible They're terrible. They're terrible, terrible.

1295
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: So now you basketball, that's your thing. What's what's steven

1296
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: A's favorite sport?

1297
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: It's basketball.

1298
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: But I've grown to really really love footballs because because

1299
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: football has been established as an event.

1300
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: So that's Sundays.

1301
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying when you come to New

1302
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: York one the time and bring you by the crib

1303
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: and bringing you the crib, you know, saying, I got, I.

1304
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 5: Got the main cave, just set up. It's set up.

1305
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 5: Now you know we're gonn watch the game together. They're right,

1306
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: They're right. We can do that. We do that with

1307
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 5: Ryan Clark, Barker spills all talk about coming one time.

1308
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: I just invite you all over to make sure I

1309
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: got some catered food. Yeah, hell no, hell no. I

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Speaker 5: cooked some lasagna, cook some stek Hell yes we do.

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Speaker 4: Alfred.

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Speaker 1: You might not eat the lasagna, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: knowing you you're watching the cars and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: but with some of us, gonna eat it. But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this, I ain't cooking for a bunch

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Speaker 1: of men. That ain't happening.

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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you if I tell you this right here,

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Speaker 5: I tell you this right here.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you know you're gonna got football has established

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Speaker 1: himself as an event. But really, the two things I

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Speaker 1: love most is basketball and nothing beats a big time

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Speaker 1: boxing event.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Like when.

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Speaker 1: I was at Ero Spence, I saw you right, It

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Speaker 1: broke my I picked Corfort to win.

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Speaker 5: I ain't know you were win like that. It broke

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Speaker 5: my heart to see Ero Spence get whipped like that.

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Speaker 1: It really really did. I didn't see that coming. I

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Speaker 1: might be at Canilo versus Charlo o'challo and it. But see,

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Speaker 1: my problem is that Charlo's moving up to weight classes.

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Speaker 5: I'm scared for him now.

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Speaker 1: He got mad skills and he got hot, and he

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Speaker 1: walks around looking like the bigger guy, But he ain't

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Speaker 1: been in the ring with somebody that's punching him from

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight pounds in a real fight, right,

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Speaker 1: And so that's my concern. His brother got some issues

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Speaker 1: that he got to resolve, that's what they say. But

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Speaker 1: he's the natural super middleweight, so he was the one who's,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, should have been fighting Charlo.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry for the Canilo rather than this guy.

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Speaker 1: But those big tom boxing events in Vegas, I mean,

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Speaker 1: nothing beats it.

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Speaker 3: I mean this dispense fight was really big, but it's

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Speaker 3: been a while since you had those. I remember going

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Speaker 3: to the Mike Tyson and the Mayweather. It was an event.

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Speaker 1: Now Mayweather Pacia, Mayweather Canilo Hoyer. Yes, that was a

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Speaker 1: big event too, But I will tell you nothing was

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Speaker 1: really bigger than Mayweather Pacquia. We had waited so long, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and want it was five years too late late, But

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Speaker 1: we didn't know until after the fight that it was

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Speaker 1: five years.

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Speaker 5: Too late, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So leading up to the event, oh my god, it

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Speaker 1: didn't get any bigger.

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Speaker 3: But you know the thing is everybody that Mayweather fought,

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Speaker 3: he made him look like it was five years too late, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's how the great that's the greatness of him. Yes,

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Speaker 3: everybody that he fought, they like.

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Speaker 4: What he beat. Sugar, he beat Sugar, Sugar Jane mostly

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Speaker 4: he'd beat Sugar.

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Speaker 5: Shane Mos second round. Yeah, almost hurt up as dropped him.

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Speaker 3: But you look at you look at the champions that

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Speaker 3: this man beat and made them look mundane beating them.

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Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to. Part one on. Just

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Speaker 3: simply go back to club Shay profile and I'll see

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Speaker 3: you there