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Speaker 1: Ain't the chronic goals. This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail MC ain't big spells

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Speaker 2: the streets.

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Speaker 1: Bro? How was you all?

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Speaker 2: Todays said? What's good? Everything is cracking? Shoot the Kuran

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Speaker 2: come home? Yes, no, he had home, but she went

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Speaker 2: somewhere with this, you know, with his people. So it

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Speaker 2: be on finally on the first.

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Speaker 3: Sure he got there congregating that thing about them kids. Man,

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Speaker 3: when they get a certain eggs, they ain't standing in

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Speaker 3: the house with us. Hell no, it's standing out big thing,

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Speaker 3: the big thing, the big subject, man, is the streets dead?

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Speaker 3: Is that what it is? I don't know that that's

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Speaker 3: what everybody's saying. The streets is dead. I looked outside,

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Speaker 3: the streets look like they're still there. To me, Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I don't know what that's supposed

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Speaker 3: to mean by that. The streets is dead or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they you know, people have these

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Speaker 2: new things, they go through these these these episodes or

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Speaker 2: these periods, and you know, it just seemed like it's

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Speaker 2: one of those one of those Twitter Instagram things that

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Speaker 2: you know, niggas say something and it goes viral because whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's the thing. I guess, yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what it is. I think, man, I think that when

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Speaker 3: people start living a certain lifestyle and they you know,

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Speaker 3: like like start getting the new houses, new cribs, new

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Speaker 3: cars and the elevating life, I think they just lead

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Speaker 3: the old ways behind and out. You know what. This

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Speaker 3: is how I feel about that. I'm not no gang banger.

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Speaker 3: I'll see it that a whole lot of times. Man,

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Speaker 3: I've been in the streets, man, but as an old

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Speaker 3: dude now man as an og as the young kids

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Speaker 3: to call it. Man, I'm out. I'm living a different

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Speaker 3: life right now. I'm not into the things and activities

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Speaker 3: that I was, and I was necessarily you know, nineteen

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Speaker 3: twenty years old, right. I think people should evolve and grow.

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Speaker 3: But I think when you talk about the streets, that

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Speaker 3: depend on what you're saying that they mean they me

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Speaker 3: that they're at a new place of maturity and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that. Then that's cool, that's whatever, right, But when

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Speaker 3: you start trying to kind of be critical of people

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Speaker 3: that may still be out there, may still be doing

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Speaker 3: their thing, I think it's kind of hypocritical, you know,

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Speaker 3: especially if you're making that kind of music.

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Speaker 2: Well, again, like you said, a lot of in this

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Speaker 2: a lot of in this this profession. I guess a

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Speaker 2: lot of it in this profession. You know, as far

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Speaker 2: as hip hop concerned, A lot of niggas got they

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Speaker 2: they recognition by being affiliated or associated with the streets.

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Speaker 2: You're getting It's how, I don't know, if you want

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Speaker 2: to say niggas image or whatever. Being a young dude,

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Speaker 2: a young cat growing up in comped in in whatever.

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Speaker 2: The streets molded and shaped a lot of niggas. It

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Speaker 2: showed showed a lot of bad shit, but then it

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Speaker 2: also showed good shit. Gave that edge, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: and it gave us stories and it gave us things

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Speaker 2: you get, of course, depending on what walks of life

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Speaker 2: niggas came from. From the streets, it molded a lot

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Speaker 2: of street attitudes We got a lot of niggas still

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Speaker 2: because they was handing out long stretches of time to

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Speaker 1: You call numbers.

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Speaker 2: But you know, it seems that I guess when you

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Speaker 2: they're no longer on the corner, They're no longer you know,

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Speaker 2: representing would basically put them in that position, because you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of niggas who are rich and famous today

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Speaker 2: pitfalls of that. You get me a nigga who say

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Speaker 2: get faced with all kind of adversity. Of course, you're

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Speaker 2: But I guess to switch up the program, niggas want

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Speaker 2: I ain't you know the streets whatever. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: walks of life. But I would never say the streets

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Speaker 2: whatever whatever they're saying, because, like I said, the streets

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Speaker 2: shaped a lot of us. It matured a lot of

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Speaker 2: us because of what we had to go through, maybe

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Speaker 2: being a lot of niggas was fatherless and single parent

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Speaker 2: homes and they had to do those walks of life

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Speaker 2: in the streets. So the streets might have made you

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Speaker 2: who you are today, you get me, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: but claim to be if you claim to be a

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Speaker 2: you would never say fuck the streets, because the streets

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Speaker 2: is what took you through that adversity and made who

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Speaker 2: you are today. But you know, it's a lot of gimmicky,

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Speaker 2: niggas ain't solids, as you know, because to me, that's

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Speaker 2: just another gimmick thing they throwing out there, viral quote

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Speaker 2: so to speak. You get me, So what would you

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Speaker 2: say that if twenty one Savage was on sitting with

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Speaker 2: brought it up and said, man, the streets is dead,

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Speaker 2: it's played out or whatever. What would you say to him?

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Speaker 2: That's your opinion, and you got the right to have

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Speaker 2: that if you you know, I don't know what walks

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Speaker 2: of life you came from. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: walk that street life or claim that you was from

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Speaker 2: a hood or whatever whatever. But you know, a nigga

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Speaker 2: like me would never say, and and what do you

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Speaker 2: what do you meaning by the streets as dead? What

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Speaker 2: do you want the streets to be active with niggas

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Speaker 2: going around pulling drive bys and shit like that, Because

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Speaker 2: that's still going on, you go, gangs in neighborhoods are

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Speaker 2: still going on. So you know, to say the streets

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Speaker 2: the persona of what people perceive you as. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, you get me, but not to glorify the streets.

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Speaker 1: We're not trying to glorify them.

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Speaker 2: So you just have to take it in your own

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Speaker 2: perspective of what niggas is trying to do with that

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Speaker 2: by saying on the streets is dead, the streets is dead?

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Speaker 3: What I think? Brou Sorry to cut you off. But

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Speaker 3: what I think is this, man, I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: we just had that. They just was in troll. You know,

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Speaker 3: Thugger was locked up for a while. Man, they just

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Speaker 3: you know, had the kind of fight for their life, right,

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Speaker 3: you had to fight for their freedom. And I guess

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Speaker 3: that thug ain't messing with the one homie, that the

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Speaker 3: one gonna catch no more man because the accusations of

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Speaker 3: the telling or whatever. But then I heard it. All

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Speaker 3: those guys had something to say, right, And that's neither

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Speaker 3: here nor there. But what I'm saying is this, I

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Speaker 3: think people do stuff as it seemed fit to them,

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Speaker 3: and it's for convenience, as you know, if it's convenient

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Speaker 3: for them to say, right, I think I think, first

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Speaker 3: of all, man, I think everybody is lifting this. A

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Speaker 3: lot of rappers is kind of lifting this false narrative.

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Speaker 3: Man like they're the kingpins. So they like they're the

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Speaker 3: big g's on the block and the kingpins. But when

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Speaker 3: it comes down to it and it comes down to

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Speaker 3: being held accountable for something stupid that you might have done,

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Speaker 3: I don't think nobody want to be held accountable for that, right,

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Speaker 3: So everybody is going to try to escape from you know,

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Speaker 3: escape punishment, so to speak. And I think it's real

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Speaker 3: easy and real convenience to say, you know what, man,

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Speaker 3: the streets play it out, you know, as it is

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Speaker 3: for you. Now you feel what I'm saying because you

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Speaker 3: kind of done with it. I think people, man, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people man, really appropriate misappropriate shit. You got

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Speaker 3: to think about it if you if you are a rapper

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Speaker 1: Really. The break of artists that they don't have no

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that's an angle that you know, worked

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Speaker 2: for record labels or whatever. You know, not everybody's from

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Speaker 2: the streets, and not everybody's gonna have that background. But

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Speaker 2: Is basically like, fuck it, I'm gonna say something stupid

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Speaker 2: basically what happens today. You get me just saying little shit,

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Speaker 2: you know, doing little shit garners a ten from everyone.

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Speaker 2: So maybe, you know, maybe it was something to to

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Speaker 2: because that's the throw week man, that's the world were

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Speaker 1: Is is attention.

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Speaker 2: Everything is about attention and viral and content and and

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Speaker 2: so if you a motherfucker who who comes from that

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Speaker 2: get everybody talking. And look it's look, it's the it's

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Speaker 1: Obviously working upsetting up here talking about it. You feel

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Speaker 1: it's the aide.

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Speaker 2: It's the age of just saying whatever just to get attention.

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Speaker 2: You get me, you know, because I don't think you

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Speaker 2: know now I get it. You know, we all grow up,

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Speaker 2: we all mature, and we all want to you know,

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Speaker 2: be positive figures or whatever. But sometimes you know, motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: just say shit to just get attention, and that's just

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Speaker 2: can go under attention offer, or see what it does

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Speaker 2: to help me promote, because you know, I got a

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Speaker 2: project off in the drop or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is about, like, like seriously, everything. You can

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Speaker 3: tell when somebody got something about to come up. Either

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Speaker 3: they it's almost like a manuscript. Either they go do

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Speaker 3: something stupid, either they go dis somebody, start having beef

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Speaker 3: for somebody, or they gonna say something crazy. And it's

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Speaker 3: all coming to try to get attention. Right now, everybody

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Speaker 3: is using every angle except their music to get attention.

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Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, definitely, everybody got an angle right now.

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Speaker 3: You know what I think, man, And I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: have nothing against twenty one Savage.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I think twenty one Savage makes some cool music, and

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Speaker 3: I think people need to just stick to making their

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Speaker 3: You feel me. Everybody got their lane and what they doing.

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Speaker 3: I think we in a place of music. Man. No,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be confident in your shit. And like

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Speaker 3: You feel me, Yeah, you know what, I ain't gonna

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Speaker 3: last for thirty forty years not being able to do

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00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: every fastt of the game.

433
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: Right.

434
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: Just because the motherfucker don't necessarily flex his hookshock don't

435
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: mean he can't shoot it.

436
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying exactly.

437
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: But I think today, man, it's going back to that man,

438
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: people just making real dope music. It's going back to

439
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: the underground. I think. I think the fans ain't dumb, man,

440
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: and I think the fans know when stuff ain't genuine.

441
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: And I even think they getting tired of a lot

442
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: of the same shit. It's like even with the podcast

443
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: shit now, a lot of this shit is getting real redundant. Man,

444
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna make a lot of changes to the show

445
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: at the first year because you got to keep pivoting. Man,

446
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: it's out of control right now. Yeah, a lot of

447
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: people doing the same thing. And I think the podcast

448
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 3: business is just like the record business now in a sense, man,

449
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: where people saw a lot of opportunity and a chance

450
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: to make some money. And I think a lot of

451
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: people got active off of getting false information too. I

452
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: think people think it's millions of dollars in this business.

453
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 3: It is, but you have to be at a certain

454
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: level and to get to that level, man, I was

455
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: listening to Charlotte Maine the other day. You know, it

456
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: takes eight to ten years to really pop with a podcast.

457
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about really popping. Get to that level, man,

458
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: where you just like up here like this. It's not

459
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: an overnight thing.

460
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: But that's why you see some dudes come and go, everybody,

461
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: please start some shit. But everybody, everybody, you know, don't

462
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: have that patience and can deal with adversity. And sometimes

463
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: if you if you've dealt with that, you know what

464
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: the climb is. We're in the era of instant success

465
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: and a lot of niggas who probably wanted to get

466
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: into the music game, whether it was producing or rapping

467
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: or whatever.

468
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: It might be a hit and miss, but it don't mean.

469
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: That every nigga didn't try to do it because of

470
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: thinking it was so simple. Right when rap first started,

471
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: you had a certain degree of niggas who felt like, oh, no,

472
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: I can't fuck with that shit. You get me, You

473
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta be a gifted motherfucker to be able

474
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: to come up with those records and to come up

475
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: with those lyrics and whatever whatever. Then thus came the

476
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: era where you know, niggas hustle wasn't right, or niggas

477
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: got tired of going to jail, or niggas thinking how

478
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: can I flip my bread? Whatever whatever, So they start,

479
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, building studios in their cribs and their kitchens

480
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: and in their rooms and whatever. And thus you had

481
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: a fluctuation of niggas who was feeling like, I'm FeelA

482
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: be the next rapper, right, because a lot of it

483
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: stemmed from haterism, right, Oh this nigga rapping them shit, nigga,

484
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: fuck this, nigga gotta do this shit too, you get me.

485
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: That's where a lot of it stem come from. That's

486
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: why I say the podcast it is just like the

487
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 3: rap shit knows. I'm gonna tell you.

488
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: This because it's the new, because it's it's it's taking

489
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: niggas from from your walk of life, you get me,

490
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: it's taking another nigga or whatever and going, oh, I

491
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: could do that shit. And then when they see shit,

492
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: a lot like you said, a lot of people on

493
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: the outside looking in and don't understand that, Oh nigga,

494
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: just because you turn the camera on and start talking

495
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: to a mic, niggas start shit. Niggas got a million dollars,

496
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: these nigga, Oh that's a million dollars.

497
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: So now the focus is, oh.

498
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 2: We could do that shit too, So let's get us

499
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: some cameras, let's get us some motherfucking little setup, and

500
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: now we got a podcast too.

501
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Then you look up.

502
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: Thirty days later and niggas who over there peeping their shit,

503
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: they done went home.

504
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: It started them a podcast.

505
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: And then somebody who know that nigga see what he

506
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: doing and feel like, oh, well, shit, nigga, I'm gonna

507
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: run home and I'm gonna start me a podcast because

508
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: next it's the hustle. It's the new hustle, right, And

509
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: in the game of hussle, there's no motherfucking restrictions, right,

510
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: you so dope nigga. If you were able to cop

511
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: some dope, you were another nigga on the corner, right,

512
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: there was no restrictions unless you slanging in another nigga's

513
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: territory and then he gonna run you out.

514
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: But this is just like I look at, it's the

515
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: same thing. You know what I look at too. These

516
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: numbers are way off base too, man. I keep talking

517
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: about that, right, because I've been doing this pretty much

518
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: since the beginning. Man, We've been doing this for a

519
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: long time. And like, I was not to get these

520
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: dudes business. But I was looking at the whole fifty

521
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: in Jim Jones thing, and they was talking about, you know,

522
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: Jim Jones, Davy Easton, you know fast podcasts right and

523
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: made no stuff right, And they were saying, man, that

524
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: they got a building the place they do they podcast

525
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: said that they like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

526
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: in behind on rent, and I was like, man, what

527
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: is they doing shooting a movie? It don't cost that

528
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: much to shoot a podcast. Yes, I've had my own

529
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 3: spot before. You know, we've had spots before, right, And

530
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: I know what the budget deal is behind this. Even

531
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: if you got you a camera crew, even if you

532
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: got you a camera crew three or four people. Bro,

533
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: you ain't spending no two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

534
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: on shooting no podcasts a year.

535
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Brouh.

536
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: That's a full on production. You feel what I'm saying.

537
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: That's like a real production. You feel me exactly. And

538
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm looking I'm like, Okay, how do you make that

539
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: money back? You just doing a podcast?

540
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Right?

541
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: You don't have a TV deal for you just going

542
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: to YouTube like everybody else. I think people, man, before

543
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: they believe all this stuff, they need to really sit

544
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: back and ask themselves basic questions sometimes and say, you

545
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: know what, does that make any sense? Because even if

546
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: you were in the spot. I think when I was

547
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: up in the CBS building, man, I think shot, I

548
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: was paying maybe and I had six shows. I was

549
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: paying maybe four thousand dollars a month. You feel what

550
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I was paying four grand a month.

551
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

552
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: We was at the spot. You came up to the mansion,

553
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: the spot. We was up there. Now, we weren't paying

554
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: for that. Somebody had actually convinced me to do a

555
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: deal over there with them, right, But still you know

556
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: we got bill back for that stuff, right, it wasn't

557
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: no on two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.

558
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: I think some people I just got to call bullshit

559
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: and a lot of this shit that these people saying,

560
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: everybody want to look like they're a big boss, right,

561
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: And I could tell you, man, who's making money and

562
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: who not making money? I could tell you right now.

563
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: And I ain't even nobody else's pockets, Like I don't

564
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: really care like that. But you get no the economics, man,

565
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: when people talk about they getting twenty million dollars for something,

566
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: how are you gonna make the money back on that?

567
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Now?

568
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: Charlottemagne and them, they show make a lot of money,

569
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: but they're on every day. That's a radio show, right,

570
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: They put out an episode every day, bro, every day

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: of the week except for Saturdays and Sundays and probably

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: the holiday is right, and even then they showing some reruns. Right,

573
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: that's a whole Like The Breakfast Club is a syndicated

574
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: radio show. You feel what I'm saying. It's on every

575
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: day every morning, right, so they put the radio out

576
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: into the podcast world or whatever. That showed me a

577
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: lot of money, But then again, I said, it's a

578
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: five it's a podcast that goes on five days a week.

579
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 3: Who knows, Hey, we might get to the place, man,

580
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: where one day somebody might up the bag on us,

581
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: but they gonna tell us, say, you got to give

582
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: me five episodes a week. Right, then you act the courting,

583
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: but then you act accordingly with it. Man, I just

584
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: think everybody's season. I like to call it the master

585
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: p effect. And this is not no dis to pee.

586
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: I think p is one of the greatest hustlers ever, right,

587
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: but Pete was kind of like the first common man's rapper,

588
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: like the d boy to turn rapper. Right, he wouldn't know.

589
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: He wasn't no verbal gymnasts. He wasn't the most skilled

590
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: dude in the world. You feel what I'm saying, And

591
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: he let it be known him and baby both. I'll

592
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: let it be known. We not rappers. We gain spitters.

593
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. We game spitgers. We just

594
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: we some d boys talking about how we ball, right,

595
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: And I think people sat at home and saw that

596
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: and said, man, this nigga got gold toward the seats

597
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: in his house. Man, he pushing rolls royces. This nigga

598
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: got the big hummer going down the block, got the

599
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: big tank hanging on his chest. Man, I could do

600
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: that shit too. I'm moving birds too. I'm gonna go

601
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: out there and talk about it. That's why in the nineties, man,

602
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: during that era, we had it kind of like a

603
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: string of a whole bunch of white people come out, bro,

604
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: because you had all kinds of rappers. You was on

605
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: the road a lot at that time. How many rappers

606
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: did you see from real weird places? Man, It's all

607
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: of a sudden it was D boys. Now they putting

608
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: out records, and.

609
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: A lot of niggas, a lot of niggas who started

610
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: that you get me. A lot of this D boys

611
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: started feeling like fuck that, I'm ana rap too, like

612
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: because they felt like, fuck it if these niggas is

613
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: doing it. And then they looked at some niggas as

614
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: they might have felt like, shit, these niggas ain't even

615
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: real niggas. I'm a real nigga, so shit, and they

616
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: don't understand that it is. It's really a skille to

617
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: this shit. You get me, Yeah, if you go last year,

618
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: a lot of niggas started rapping because they wanted to

619
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: prove they aught inticity over over other niggas. You give me,

620
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: or niggas listening to Cube, niggas listening to to Sew

621
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: and So, niggas listening to so and so with shit nigga, Nigga,

622
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: I really been to this or I really did this.

623
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: Niggas don't understand that it's really a skill to this

624
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: shit and it's really about intriguing an audience and and

625
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: and having shit. So motherfucking great that niggas want to

626
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: spend their money and shit on your storytelling or making

627
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: them feel good. I'm fucking really don't live fuck how

628
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: authentic you supposed to be. You did me shit. If

629
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: I like music, I like music, I look at a lot,

630
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: I look at people. Man at again. I hope nobody

631
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: want to go back to PSC. It still was on

632
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: a disition you because they ain't it at all. But

633
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: peell tell you yourself. Pee wasn't the most skilled rapper in

634
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: the world. Do you feel me?

635
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: That's just wasn't his thing, right, But did he make

636
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 3: dope music. He had dope beast man and knew how

637
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: to make that shit for the ghetto. You feel what

638
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's why I was telling people. Man, again,

639
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: it's a matter of opinion, but I was telling people

640
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: because people just thought Cash Money Records was going to

641
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: blow the markets. They had hit records, and I had

642
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: to remind them. I said, man, No Limit was a

643
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: big street movement. You feel what I'm saying. It was

644
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: a street movement they had that They had the hoods.

645
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: You know, it was ghetto minie right. It was targeted

646
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: toward the ghetto. They did their thing. I think when

647
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: Death Row came out, that was the you know, even

648
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 3: though they had a macular music, that stuff was targeted.

649
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: The ghetto was the target. You feel what I'm saying.

650
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: The ghettoes would blew that stuff up definitely. You used

651
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: for sure, you was one of the first ghetto rappers.

652
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: The ghetto ghetto people really loves confidence. Most wanted y'all

653
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: spoke to the neighborhoods. You feel what I'm saying. People

654
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: liked it, right, But there was some level of skill

655
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: to it, thog Dog, It was a lot of skill

656
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: to it. That's why you are still going out and

657
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: doing shows today and putting out our even though people

658
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: that might have been bid at that time, they not

659
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: putting no albums out no more brou because don't know

660
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: it's over.

661
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.

662
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: They might have people loved them for that little air

663
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: they have, but they're not able to put out no

664
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: records right now because don't nobody want to hear that

665
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: shit today. It's just the truth to it, man, that's

666
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: not me dishing nobody. I think we gotta start just

667
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: kind of like keeping the buck and stop worrying about

668
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: niggas looking at stuff like people hating Dog. It's the truth.

669
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: A lot of them records wasn't a lot of the

670
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: rappers booty Dog. They just didn't have no skill level

671
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: to they shit. You know, that's why they'd not hear

672
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: no more. Somebody told me they was all shocked that

673
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: old girl what's the homegirl's name, man, sexy read? Everybody

674
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: was all shocked that she didn't sell enough bunch of records.

675
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: And I told somebody said, did you really expect her

676
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: for to come out to go gold and platinum? You've

677
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 3: been doing this shit for a minute. Eight how many

678
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: whack gold and platinum rappers? How many whack rappers that

679
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: you've seen have hit records? Put it like this, you

680
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: could see it gimmick record, go go to platinum, and yeah,

681
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: but a couple.

682
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: That's what I'll put on it, because you know, we

683
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: all define whackness for what it is, you know, but

684
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: this is we are not in the age.

685
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: Of people defined in music as whack.

686
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: You get me, because today a motherfucker's gonna find some

687
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: uses for whatever that artists may be pushing.

688
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: Get me.

689
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: Sexy red represented a way of life for certain motherfuckers.

690
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: So what the venereal disease life?

691
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: Though I'm not gonna say that because I wouldn't say

692
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: that every hood motherfucker had a venario disease. You get me,

693
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: some very clean bitches in the hood, and so it's

694
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: niggas since fortunate that this is the way I grew up.

695
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: But you know, there's some very clean, nass, proper motherfucking

696
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: niggas and bitches in the neighborhood that just you know,

697
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: and then there's just some motherfuckers who are misguided, and

698
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: you know, those are the motherfuckers who know Unfortunately, those

699
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: are the females who are ran through and the niggas

700
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: who are dirty. You have some of those, okay, but

701
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: then you have motherfuckers who grew up in the same

702
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: situation that have a certain pride about themselves. You get me, nigga,

703
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: just because I grew up in the projects, don't make

704
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: me a dirty, motherfucking whatever.

705
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm.

706
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: But she represented a way of life for a lot

707
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: of motherfuckers who are still there. And so she didn't

708
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: get Oh, that bitch is whack. She didn't get that

709
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: from her peers. A lot of her peers looked at

710
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: her as bitch, that's me. You get me, that's me, bitch.

711
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: I still live in a neighborhood. It might not be

712
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: the projects, but I still live in the Compton east Side,

713
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Long Beach, Watts South Central type of.

714
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: Setting where I grew up. So there's the home girl

715
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: sold Es.

716
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: The home girl sold us a couple of bitches I

717
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: went to school with so Es, A couple of bitches

718
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: that dance up the strip club. I know so Es,

719
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: A couple of the homegirls who got babies by two

720
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: and three of the niggas from the hood who probably

721
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: in prison. She represented a lifestyle, So you get me.

722
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: You can look at her, and you could look at

723
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Nicki minaj Or you can look at and that bitch

724
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: don't represent my lifestyle. Get me sexy red dude, though,

725
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: you get me, And that's why you have to look

726
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: at it like she was. She was never she what

727
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: We came from the era where we go all nigga,

728
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: that's whack. You get me, that's whack because we prided

729
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: ourselves on lyricism and being a true MC. But those

730
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: type of motherfucking artists, they represent the lifestyle that a lot.

731
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: Of people still grow through. And to them, oh, bitch,

732
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: you my hero.

733
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: You get me, you my hero, bitch because you don't

734
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: give a fuck.

735
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fuck a hood nigga. I'll let him do this.

736
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: I it's regular females that's in that situation.

737
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: So h you knew girls in the hood that was

738
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: talking about they need their kookie scratch. No, but that's

739
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: not our era. My era.

740
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Bitches didn't say that. Bitches said something else. If they

741
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: they wanted to get fucked by a nigga, yeah, bitch,

742
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: it was another.

743
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Saying where you grew up and where I grew up.

744
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: In our days, we knew bitches who would be like, nigga,

745
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: I want to fuck, but they it was a different

746
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: slang than saying I need my pussy scratched. That's the

747
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: slang of today from the bitches where she from, and

748
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: they get out.

749
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: You get me.

750
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: When I grew up, the bitches who were sexual or

751
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: who didn't hide their sexuality, they gonna tell you straight up, nigga,

752
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: come pick me up, or what you want to do

753
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: or nigga whatever the term was. You knew that bitch

754
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: want to fuck, right, Yeah, it was a term. They

755
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: might have just straight up told you nigga, come pick

756
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: me up or nigga less whatever, but there was a

757
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: term or you got some money whatever, bitches get down

758
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,959
Speaker 2: was back in days you knew if you could fuck

759
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: or not buy whatever whatever action.

760
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: The bold bitches would just tell you straight up.

761
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: They might have just walked up to you and grabbed

762
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: your dick and was like, nigga, what's up.

763
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: You getting me?

764
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: It definitely was. It definitely was some offen look ass

765
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: females out there.

766
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: You know what.

767
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: The thing it was a party though, man, and this

768
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: thing about it, you know what, somebody like Sacey Red

769
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: strikes me as Kanna. She probably is a really nice

770
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: girl in real life, and she don't have some nigga

771
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: that broke that stuff for her and thought of that

772
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: image she said, this is all we gonna do your stuff,

773
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: and this is what you go do, and she out

774
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: they're getting to it.

775
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: You feel me, Well, it's like it's like getting in

776
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: on the hot ticket, right. And like you said, we

777
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: had the Nikki Minajes and we had the Cardi B's

778
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: who started that. And not to say they was the starters,

779
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: because you have to look up to Little Kim and

780
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: Foxy Brown who weren't as vulgar with their sexuality, but

781
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: they were, especially Little Kim, right, they definitely two of

782
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: the damn mom. Foxy Brown and Little Kim are definitely

783
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: man like the kind of the queens of that whole,

784
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: that whole area where they didn't give a fucking you

785
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: know who was that before them? For my mama's Billie Jackson, Right,

786
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: So you gotta figure and open the door for that.

787
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: They opened the door for that shit. The Nikkas, the cards,

788
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the Maigans, the fucking sexy Reds, the Suki Hannas, you know, everybody.

789
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: Who came in on that on that angle.

790
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: You get me, I'm just gonna be a sexy ass,

791
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: Come get this pussy bitch. And because that it was cracking,

792
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: then you had a lot of little you know, side things,

793
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: but females. Who's representing that sexual shit. Whether it was

794
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm just a sexy bitch or nigga, I'm out the

795
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: strip club with it, it didn't matter.

796
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: That's what they was pushing. You know.

797
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: What bro I was trying to was you ever had

798
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: done a record? Man, would you do a record with

799
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: like a with somebody like a sexy red try to.

800
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm one of those artists who never looked for the

801
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: come up.

802
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: You feel me.

803
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable in my own skin, so to speak, So

804
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: I never wanted to use someone else's success to try

805
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: to uplift my own, so I stay in my own lane.

806
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: It isn't it wouldn't be beneficial. You give me other

807
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: than this nigga doing a song with her because she's

808
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: popular at the moment. You get me, that's it. That's

809
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: that's what it would be. It wouldn't be they did

810
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: a song together because they did the ship is fire,

811
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: that type of ship or the mix is great. You

812
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: get me, that is that's a that's a motherfucking that's

813
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: a viral content song. You're getting me, that's a motherfucking

814
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: he doing a song with her because she blowing up

815
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: right now, you get me. So I never look at

816
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: ship like that. I never wanted to. I'll never do

817
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: shit like that. Or now y'all need to put me

818
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: in touch with you know, Yeah, and then you gotta

819
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: look at it it don't it don't mix because I'm

820
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: not a female rapper.

821
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: I've never been.

822
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: I've never been in no disrespect and and and I

823
00:44:52,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: appreciate all the females who appreciate my music. You get me,

824
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: But I never aimed my music to attract females.

825
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: You know what I was trying to pull off? Dog?

826
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: I never told you I was trying to get her

827
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: to come in. I wanted you to do it? Or

828
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: can I kill it?

829
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Part? Can I kill it like a part too? Because

830
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: was it ever a part?

831
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: One?

832
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Was it tooth? You had tooth? Can I kill this?

833
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Didn't you? It was just one? Can you imagine how

834
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: that would have been? Man? A sequel? Was it? That motherfucker?

835
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: With her on there?

836
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: Probably in back in my days it would have worked.

837
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: But today that would have worked.

838
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: But that's why, that's why you don't.

839
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Have too many today.

840
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: You don't have too many people in her generation who

841
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: would have understood that. Now you got a gang of

842
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: niggas from our generation who know the song can I

843
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: Kill It? But you ain't gonna have nobody from her

844
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: generation unless it's some niggas in the hood still who

845
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: grew up on hood music that you know, her fans

846
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: don't know shit about no can I Kill It? So

847
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: still again, what you looking at it? Like?

848
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

849
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: They trying, they trying to because she popular you give

850
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: me and and fuck that?

851
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, bro The reason I didn't pursue

852
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: it no more, It was because the thing about it,

853
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: I said, eight is in a different place, like that

854
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: record is in that ERAa where it's supposed to be.

855
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: But where you at in life right now, I can't

856
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: see you necessarily doing it. Can I Kill It? You

857
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. It's the whole different mind state.

858
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: It's a whole different mind state, no right, And a

859
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that we did, you know, it's a

860
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: lot of stuff that we did when we was kids, man,

861
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 3: because we was kids, you know what I mean, because

862
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: he was kids, you know what? Man speaking the wish

863
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: man I owe the homie lines were called man lines

864
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: would called me a couple of times when I was

865
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: out of town. When I was down in Houston, right,

866
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: and I got to see what the homie wanted. I

867
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: said eight. Probably Donna started. I said, I said, eight,

868
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: don't start some stuff. He called me to check the temperature.

869
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: You know, I was funny. Nowadays, man, we in an era,

870
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: mana where people take any form of opinion as somebody

871
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: hating on them. I've never said stuff like that, bro.

872
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: I still people think like just any form of just

873
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: like criticism, and I wouldn't even call it criticism, but

874
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: just people telling their truth if somebody hate exactly. We

875
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: just in a really strange era, man.

876
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: Some people, Yeah, some people take it as you know,

877
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: I guess people look at it as you trying to

878
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: disrespect them.

879
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: People.

880
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: Some people don't understand that an opinion is just an opinion.

881
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: But some people take a lot of people take opinions

882
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: as personal. So that's where a lot of shit gets confused,

883
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: because people feel disrespected. I guess when your opinion is

884
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: not to their advantage. And sometimes, you know, niggas don't

885
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: know how to just accept criticism for somebody's opinion. Hey

886
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: that's what he felt. Cool.

887
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: You know.

888
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 1: I've never been one.

889
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: To argue or want to rebut somebody's opinion because that's

890
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: just what it is, and you have the right to

891
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: have that. I don't take it personal if you don't

892
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: like this song or that song, or you might not

893
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: like the whole project, and that happens. Niggas be like,

894
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: oh your last project I didn't like too much, But

895
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: the project you just put out, that shit is fired.

896
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: You can't turn around and be like, maigge, you didn't

897
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: like my last shit, then fuck you. Then you get

898
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: me like, or you want to keep having you want

899
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: to keep having this opinion on another Niggas up, You

900
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: get me like, it's just what I said, homie, Like,

901
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: you don't have to get pissed off about it. I'm

902
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: not trying to dish you as a person, but some

903
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: people can't handle it. You get me, And so as

904
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: soon as they hear you say, well, I didn't like

905
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: that or I felt like that that was I felt

906
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: it was kind of corny, or nigga gonna be like,

907
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: you're not gonna change my opinion or you're not gonna

908
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: change the way I think about it. Now, do I

909
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: feel that you as a person is whatever? No, shit,

910
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: you don't. You could be cool as fuck. So we

911
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: have to learn how to not let that shit curve us,

912
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: and especially if you in this field we in entertainment, podcasting, rapping, whatever.

913
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: If you know, if a person just as honest with

914
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: you and say they don't like the shit, then hey,

915
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't like it or I didn't like it, somebody else.

916
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: Might have loved it. And that's what you feed off of.

917
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: You get me.

918
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: You didn't like it, but this nigga liked it. That

919
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: nigga liked it, that nigga liked it. Oh, they might

920
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: didn't like it. So it's it's you gotta you gotta,

921
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: you gotta make sure it evens out, that balance is out.

922
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: That's the bro. You know what the thing is, man,

923
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: that's the truth of the matter. Right, Sometimes people just

924
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: got to just say, you know what, that's their opinion

925
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: to keep it pushing because everybody ain't gonna like what

926
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 3: you're doing. Bro, I don't care what it is.

927
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Man.

928
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: I've heard I heard somebody say something about one Kendrick's album, like, man,

929
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: that's the most overrated album ever. It sucks, right, And

930
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: I was just laughing. I said, damn, you know what

931
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean. And that's just how it is.

932
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: Man.

933
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 3: That dude in his heart made me really feel that way.

934
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: Do you think Kendrick is gonna go out of his

935
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: way to go address that motherfucker and say you hate

936
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: nass nigga. You think he'd give a fuck. No, you're

937
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 3: not supposed to. He'll probably see that shit is start

938
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: laughing or something. You know what I mean, pill shit

939
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: is started laughing. You know what, man, I'm gonna tell

940
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: you before we bounce, But before we bounce, I'm gonna

941
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: tell you some damn my life just fell down. I'm

942
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: gonna tell you something, man. For a bounce, I was

943
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: just you know, I was just down in Texas, right man.

944
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: When I tell you we've been getting ripped off for

945
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: years in California, them cribs down there, eight it's almost

946
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: like obscene. I'm talking about five bedrooms, dog, five bedrooms,

947
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: four thousand square feet, big, two story ceilings in a

948
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: living room, man, full fifty five hundred.

949
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: Man, you go down there, look like a king. Yeah,

950
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean like a king.

951
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people, you know, understand what it is

952
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: to live in California. The expenses, the the the whatever,

953
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: I guess, whatever they feel you have to offer, you know.

954
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: But a lot of them when they retire shit they

955
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: they find out.

956
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, though, eight if we went out there,

957
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: if you went out there with me, dog, we went

958
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: and looked at three houses. I don't know if you

959
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: would move right off the bat, but you would be

960
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: thinking about it.

961
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably.

962
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you it wasn't just the houses, man.

963
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you they got assholes everywhere. You know,

964
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: Houston is a very hood city. It can be you

965
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But I was riding down the

966
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: street with my brother. Man, people was out there like this.

967
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: People we didn't know. He's just waving and my brother

968
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: waving bad. I'm like, man, you know all these people?

969
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: He like, Man, No, that's just what people do down here.

970
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: They wave, they say excuse me, they speak to you, Hey,

971
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: how you doing excuse me? It is crazy thog. Yes,

972
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 3: indeed it is crazy, man. They It's just a different place, man.

973
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: But this be the last shorter New Year. Man, till

974
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: everybody out there, Man, be safe. If you go drink,

975
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: go get you a driver, Get you a driver called Uber.

976
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: A lot of places got free Uber. It never ceased

977
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: to amaze me.

978
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Man.

979
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: Every year during this time, you always hear about somebody

980
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 3: man losing their life or getting in a real bad

981
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: accident man because they was drinking and driving and got

982
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: too loaded.

983
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: It's too much stuff going on hing man, nothing nothing

984
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: check puts. We should got to watch out from the

985
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: check punch and ship. That's why I try to stay

986
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: my ass in the crib because yeah, you know what man,

987
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: and like you said, people be drinking and then you

988
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: know niggas like pistols in the air and all of that.

989
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, unless you're over somebody like your family's house

990
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: for some ship like that, just watch where you be at.

991
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Who year is coming?

992
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: You know you want to make it into the new

993
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: year and continue, So gotta be careful man, because this

994
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: is one of those days.

995
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: Doubt man.

996
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: On that note, man, Happy New Year to your happy

997
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: New Year homeboy. Yeah we gone well. That concludes another

998
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,360
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999
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