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Speaker 2: Week Class Nips. In today's episode, we are going to
Speaker 2: be discussing the new series that we'll be hitting before
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty five Twenty twenty five is
Speaker 2: almost over, guys. Winter is coming and we will be
Speaker 2: talking about it. Welcome to Derry and a very new
Speaker 2: secretive sci fi series from Breaking Back creator Vince Gilligan,
Speaker 2: which I'm very impressed and excited for. Then we will
Speaker 2: be looking at returning series that we'll be hitting at
Speaker 2: the end of this year and early next year. How
Speaker 2: about Stranger Things? Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it?
Speaker 2: We don't talk about it? And then we'll have a
Speaker 2: little look see at what's coming out a beginning of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We got some lanterns Startley Academy. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. There's a lot of TV coming out
Speaker 2: and it's almost October, guys, so winter is truly here.
Speaker 2: Start to hear the jingling of Santa's Bells.
Speaker 1: But first, Stephen King's empire extends across Dairy First show
Speaker 1: to be aware of It's premiere in October twenty sixth
Speaker 1: on HBO and HBO Max is It Welcome to Dry
Speaker 1: not to be confused with Dairy Girls.
Speaker 2: I Love Dary.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Darry, which I believe is a documentary about
Speaker 1: the troubles in Northern Ireland. No, this is completely This
Speaker 1: is an expansion and an exploration of the universe, the
Speaker 1: Stephen Key eight universe from her October twenty sixth, just
Speaker 1: in time for Spooky Season, Andy Muschetti turns to direct.
Speaker 1: Bill Scarsgard. Is still that spooky tooth Pennywise clown.
Speaker 2: I know they got him back. I think really having
Speaker 2: Bill and this is the most important thing. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: become so iconic as this modern version of Pennywise, and
Speaker 2: also the memfication and all the great behind the scenes
Speaker 2: stuff of him kind of playing with the kids in costume.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to see him come back. That's probably the
Speaker 2: biggest straw. And yeah, this is gonna be interesting. The
Speaker 2: trailer definitely hints at a bleak, dark mystery and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be about the history of Derry. So this is actually,
Speaker 2: I believe, either the parents or the grandparents of the
Speaker 2: kids from the most recent remake.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also something that was really interesting about the
Speaker 2: trailer that I did not realize is much like Castle
Speaker 2: Rock before it or the Beliguered Dark Tower adaptation, this
Speaker 2: will be set in Stephen King's Connected universe. So we
Speaker 2: see a bus that is bound for the Shaw Shanks
Speaker 2: State Penitentiary. We see Dick calleran from The Shining who
Speaker 2: is actually a major character within this series, it seems,
Speaker 2: played by Chris Chalk, So it's definitely gonna be really
Speaker 2: interesting to see how they cross that stuff over. It
Speaker 2: makes sense to me. These movies until recently were the
Speaker 2: biggest horror opening of all time, I believe, So I
Speaker 2: think I get it. I didn't love the remakes. I
Speaker 2: think they leaned a little bit too heavy into like
Speaker 2: the kind of like everybody's saying a slur because it's
Speaker 2: the eighties, and you were like, does this tell me
Speaker 2: anything about this? But the show looks great. I also
Speaker 2: love the cast. Jove Anna Deeppo, who was well reased
Speaker 2: in Watchmen. He's also in Overlord, incredible movie. Taylor Page,
Speaker 2: who's so good in Zola. Also was recently in the
Speaker 2: you know, very very old school style, low budget remake
Speaker 2: of Toxic a Benja. So yeah, I think this is
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. Jason, as a reader, as a
Speaker 2: Stephen King lover, what would you like to see them
Speaker 2: do in this show that is different than what we've
Speaker 2: seen before with other adaptations.
Speaker 1: Great question, Well, I guess I would like to see
Speaker 1: if they finally are able to crack the code on
Speaker 1: a Stephen King kind of interconnected univers You mentioned Castle Rock,
Speaker 1: which is fun for a little while, but it didn't
Speaker 1: hit did the way they would it, and kind of
Speaker 1: seemed like it shaved the weirder edges off of King
Speaker 1: stuff in a way that didn't make it so engaging.
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see if if this works,
Speaker 1: if you can create an interconnected Stephen King universe, because
Speaker 1: then it gets really interesting. I'll also just say, you
Speaker 1: know it, I read it when I was maybe thirteen
Speaker 1: or fourteen, I forget when, and I and in retrospect,
Speaker 1: Stephen has been quite open about how he was kind
Speaker 1: of like in the depths of his alcoholism and drug
Speaker 1: addiction at that time, like drinking twelve beers a day
Speaker 1: while writing this book, and it definitely shows.
Speaker 2: What Oh.
Speaker 1: And it is not my favorite Stephen King book, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of all over the place and it's quite
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that it has become this worldwide
Speaker 1: smash because it is kind of other than the Clown.
Speaker 1: The story itself was kind of like just all over
Speaker 1: the map and water, very weird, very depressing. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a child gang bang in it. It's exactly that
Speaker 1: weird glad. But you know, I will say finally.
Speaker 2: Because I think it's interesting to touch on this. It's
Speaker 2: interesting with starting here because it remakes that machete he
Speaker 2: made that became this huge success, were so heavily influenced
Speaker 2: by Stranger Things and the success of Stranger Things. And
Speaker 2: now we're in a space where HBO is going to
Speaker 2: be in a world where obviously Stranger Things derivative of
Speaker 2: it and all those other eighties Stephen King vibes. But
Speaker 2: if the show had not been so popular, you have
Speaker 2: Stranger Things cast members who ended up in that as
Speaker 2: So it's going to can HBO now transition that into
Speaker 2: a post Stranger Things smash hit that expands the world
Speaker 2: and becomes like a new you know, standout season for them.
Speaker 2: I'd be interested to see it.
Speaker 1: Here's my one my one other thing too, what are
Speaker 1: the difficulties in making a show in which the nemesis
Speaker 1: who must be defeated is also the kind of the star.
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen how difficult that can be
Speaker 1: with the boys now maybe lung onto this too long,
Speaker 1: And so I'll be interested to see, like just just
Speaker 1: how much penny Wise is actually in this because again
Speaker 1: I think penny Wise is kind of the star of it,
Speaker 1: but also like he's he's got to lose, and are
Speaker 1: we going to actually feel like at the end of
Speaker 1: this show, end of this season that we got anywhere if.
Speaker 2: We can't actually and that was stakes.
Speaker 1: There were steaks up next Tallamasca the Secret Order, which
Speaker 1: is adapted from and Rice's.
Speaker 2: She's still still going.
Speaker 1: She's still going, you know, another one of my high
Speaker 1: school loves.
Speaker 2: And right, yeah, me too, man, And I feel like, again,
Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. There's a weird I guess, the
Speaker 2: kind of thematic conversation throughout these about nostalgia and stuff,
Speaker 2: because yeah, definitely the case as well. For me, this
Speaker 2: is also very funny to me because the Talamasca are
Speaker 2: a key paw of the much believed now whole movie
Speaker 2: Queen of the Damned, which I recently went to go
Speaker 2: and watch at the movie theaters at Guardina Cinema, and
Speaker 2: it was great because they were like Tullamascar Tullamasca librarians.
Speaker 2: Now it looks like the version that we are gonna
Speaker 2: get with the Talamasca here is a more modernized, less archivist,
Speaker 2: more spy. They have funnily.
Speaker 1: Very very secret society.
Speaker 2: Very secret society, spy coded. It's gonna be set in London.
Speaker 2: It's only six episodes and it's the idea is that
Speaker 2: this is the connecting tissue between all the immortal universe
Speaker 2: stuff I will say, which is of Mayfair did not
Speaker 2: really hit in the way they wanted it to interview
Speaker 2: the vampire and never been bigger. Season three is gonna
Speaker 2: be huge. So this is a six episode holdover series basically,
Speaker 2: But they did draw from a lot of stuff we
Speaker 2: love Jason, like lots of John Leacarry and the spy
Speaker 2: who came in from the cold nods here. The Talamasca
Speaker 2: here is less like an archivist librarian, supernatural kind of
Speaker 2: observatory space, which is what they are in the books
Speaker 2: like they're supposed to just observe. Here, they are more
Speaker 2: active in the supernatural world and have shady agendas. And
Speaker 2: the one thing that I know me and Joel are
Speaker 2: very excited for as Interview the Vampire Lovers they did.
Speaker 2: We do get Eric Bogosian here playing Daniel from Interview
Speaker 2: the Vampire, so there will be crossover. It is interesting
Speaker 2: to me because we have seen Justin Kirk playing Raglin James,
Speaker 2: who I assumed would be the leader of the Talamasca
Speaker 2: TV show, but they just cast like a random new
Speaker 2: young white guy. I get it. Sometimes you've got to
Speaker 2: do that. So this guy, he's his names in this show,
Speaker 2: his names Guyntona and Totally, and he'll be played by
Speaker 2: Nicholas Denton and he's basically gonna be our in character
Speaker 2: to the Talamasca. So six six issues, six episodes.
Speaker 1: As a as an interview with a vampire lover, as
Speaker 1: an Ann Riis Lover, as a Queen of the Damned,
Speaker 1: lover rest and peace A Lea. What is your level
Speaker 1: of excitement for Tallamasca the Secret Order.
Speaker 2: It was relatively low until I saw that Eric Bogosian
Speaker 2: would be in it. As Daniel Malloy, He's such a
Speaker 2: standout of the Interview Vampire show. It has given him
Speaker 2: this kind of second wind in his career. He loves
Speaker 2: to be a part of this gay, you know, sexy
Speaker 2: horror universe. And something that I only learned today is
Speaker 2: that Jason Schwartzman is gonna be in the show as
Speaker 2: a vampire and he's like hiding away in a cloistered,
Speaker 2: luxurious Upper West Side penthouse. So I'm like that to
Speaker 2: me sounds like I need to watch that show. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love the Cia m I
Speaker 2: five of it all, but I love Jason Swatschman, I
Speaker 2: love Eric Bogosian, I love the Interview the Vampire series,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna give it a try. I also love
Speaker 2: this notion that they are gonna be developing a series
Speaker 2: called Night Island, which is basically a resort for vampires
Speaker 2: that they introduced in Queena the Damned. So I like
Speaker 2: that they're kind of just pushing this wider. And I
Speaker 2: do feel like Season three into the Vampire, which will
Speaker 2: now be called The Vampire List stat and will be
Speaker 2: following Lestat's kind of music career. I think that could
Speaker 2: be a huge breakout hit for them because of the
Speaker 2: way that people are excited for it, So it makes
Speaker 2: sense to build this world out. I'll check it out
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: I will check it out as well. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, because the first thing I thought when seeing
Speaker 1: this from I really like the kind of spy angle
Speaker 1: I'll see, we'll see if it works, was that I
Speaker 1: feel like we're I feel like someone who's good at
Speaker 1: pitching could pitch this exact sort of like spy framing
Speaker 1: for a Highlander A return. Oh please, Jason Highlander.
Speaker 2: Dude, guy, I gotta say, if you are listening to
Speaker 2: this podcast, watch out, because Jason's been letting all the
Speaker 2: good ideas out of his pocket. So I'm saying give
Speaker 2: him a call.
Speaker 1: Dude, Highlander in a it's like a spy secret society.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really sick and like you could
Speaker 2: have it where, you know, you get those great moments
Speaker 2: where they'll kind of be going through all the paintings
Speaker 2: and they'll be like, but wait, he's in, He's that
Speaker 2: can be only one Highlander agent, guys. Okay, up next.
Speaker 1: The mighty nine adaptation and well not even an updation,
Speaker 1: a retelling a world expansion of critical roles, many many, many,
Speaker 1: many episodes with various archetypical characters from inside.
Speaker 2: The D and D world.
Speaker 1: The Mighty nine will basically take some of these storylines
Speaker 1: and retell them in an animated form, and of course,
Speaker 1: all your favorite critical role people will be involved in this.
Speaker 1: This looks really fun and I think it'll be Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's it'll be something really accessible for folks
Speaker 1: who are like, oh my god, how much critical role
Speaker 1: do I have, like listen back to in order to
Speaker 1: like figure out where we are with critical role?
Speaker 2: So many people I know got into D and D
Speaker 2: because of vox Markina, the first adaptation these guys did.
Speaker 2: And I have to say, if you're an Invincible lover
Speaker 2: and you just can't wait for more gorgeously animated Invincible,
Speaker 2: watch box Markinner. The animation here is just a whole
Speaker 2: different level. And I spoke to the guys who made
Speaker 2: wox Mak another guys. I spoke to Kirkman who made
Speaker 2: Invincible a couple of years ago for a big animation
Speaker 2: piece at IGN, and all they were kept saying was
Speaker 2: just anime, anime, anime. None of this stuff would be
Speaker 2: happening without the success of anime. This is adult animation.
Speaker 2: These are people are fucking and drinking and getting their
Speaker 2: heads chopped off, but it's beautifully animated. It's in this
Speaker 2: completely cool, fantastical world, and yeah, you'll get your kind
Speaker 2: of half awc warlocks and goblin rogues and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be really interesting. It is adapting loosely campaign to if
Speaker 2: you are a big critical role fan, but I would
Speaker 2: just say, this is so such a great show to
Speaker 2: just show someone who's been getting into your arcane or
Speaker 2: your att animation. Volksmakina truly blew me away when I
Speaker 2: saw it. I didn't really realize people were making animation
Speaker 2: that looked like that kind of classic hand jowin animation,
Speaker 2: but in this really beautiful, brutal style. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: And apparently critic Cal is gonna be making a video
Speaker 2: game too, so I think we'll be there. Empire Plus
Speaker 2: to Grow, It's gonna keep growing up. Next.
Speaker 1: Not a lot in this teaser trailer. Plorabis on Apple
Speaker 1: TV Plus, but the creative team unstoppable. It's it's you
Speaker 1: have to lean forward. If you're a fan of television.
Speaker 1: Ploribis is the new series sci fi series, apparently from
Speaker 1: Vince Gilligan. It reunites Vince with Rhea see Horn, of course,
Speaker 1: Kim Wexler in the incredible, excellent and heartbreaking Better Call Saul.
Speaker 1: You don't get a lot from the teaser. You just
Speaker 1: kind of see someone licking donuts. But yeah, it's spooky
Speaker 1: enough and it's Vince Gilligain, so I'll be there for sure.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I also think the fact this is
Speaker 2: on Apple TV plus means we know, like that is
Speaker 2: where Severance came from, that is where Foundation came from.
Speaker 2: This is coming the home for weird sci fi. Who
Speaker 2: wouldn't want a sci fi show from the guy who
Speaker 2: made Breaking Bad, who made Better of Course? And I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a spicy take anymore.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like ten years out of the conversation.
Speaker 2: But also like I think Better Course Soul is a
Speaker 2: better show than Breaking Bad. Like I love that. I know, crazy, spicy,
Speaker 2: hot takes. I think it's for different I think different
Speaker 2: people like different things. But my point is we were
Speaker 2: just talking about, you know, Tallamasca, these places that struggle
Speaker 2: to get these shows that hits and spin stuff off.
Speaker 2: Vince didn't have that problem. Vince made Breaking Bad, then
Speaker 2: went in a completely different direction and made one of
Speaker 2: the most heart wrenching, incredible drama shows we've ever seen
Speaker 2: with Back Saw. That was also hilarious. I love the
Speaker 2: notion that he's now going into genre, and I think
Speaker 2: this is an interesting point. This is what he said,
Speaker 2: after fifteen years of anti heroes, I figured it would
Speaker 2: be time to write something about somebody trying to be good. Now.
Speaker 2: I think this is something we are starting to see more.
Speaker 2: This is James Gunn talking about why Superman has to
Speaker 2: be good, why he doesn't mind being Pollyanna. We're so
Speaker 2: obsessed with these dark, gritty anti heroes. I'm very excited
Speaker 2: to see a show about this. And essentially they the
Speaker 2: pitch is so intriguing, like this is the kind of
Speaker 2: shit where you're getting a meeting. If you're Vince and
Speaker 2: you pitch this, you're getting a meeting anyway because you're vinced.
Speaker 2: But because this is what they say, this is all
Speaker 2: we know about the show. Seahorn plays Carol, the most
Speaker 2: miserable person on earth who must save the world from happiness,
Speaker 2: and the tagline is happiness is Infectious. So I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but I want to
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 1: Same here, and let's just take a quick moment. We
Speaker 1: mentioned it at the beginning of this little segment for
Speaker 1: this show, Apple TV plus really is betting heavily on
Speaker 1: sci fi foundation you mentioned Severn's of course Silo j
Speaker 1: C for all that kind monarch legacy of months Jo
Speaker 1: season Dark Matter. Like there, it's they are betting heavily
Speaker 1: on sci fi. Some of it has hit obviously much
Speaker 1: harder than others, but all very interesting swings.
Speaker 2: So I'm yeah.
Speaker 1: At Murder Bond, I forgot to say, oh.
Speaker 2: My God, which by the way ended up being like
Speaker 2: a sleep a hit for them, which did kind of
Speaker 2: predict and we all getting a season two. I think
Speaker 2: you make a great point, Apple plus, Apple TV plus
Speaker 2: ever since the opening, I mean I went to the
Speaker 2: first step visit Apple Ever did and it was formed
Speaker 2: all Mankind and that still stands as one of the
Speaker 2: best sci fi shows that we've gotten.
Speaker 1: And the loss at that absolute sleeper show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I love that they're investing in this stuff,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait A love re A Seahorn and
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see where this goes. It sounds
Speaker 2: like the exact kind of weird kind of Zero's British TV,
Speaker 2: like Utopia or something where you never see what's coming
Speaker 2: and then once it hits you're just obsessed.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Efforts and we're back, folks. The kids are now thirty
Speaker 1: five thirty children have children in real life. Yes, of
Speaker 1: course we're talking about season five, the final season of
Speaker 1: Stranger Things and the final season of content by the
Speaker 1: Duffer brothers at the Home where they broke big Netflix folks.
Speaker 1: Whoof I wonder now how excited people really will be.
Speaker 1: It's been a long it's been. It feels like it's
Speaker 1: been a long time since season four.
Speaker 2: It's been nine years since season one too, So like,
Speaker 2: that's not crazy, that's crazy. This is I think also representative,
Speaker 2: ironically of the impact of Stranger Things in many ways,
Speaker 2: because Stranger Things was Netflix's big global smash post the
Speaker 2: prestige arrival of House of Cards, and this was a
Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon and it established what people then wanted from streaming.
Speaker 2: It also set up the binge model as the way
Speaker 2: to watch a new show. But with all of that said,
Speaker 2: we also ended up in this situation with these huge
Speaker 2: gaps in between seasons, and as the shows became bigger
Speaker 2: than the kids went out to do other stuff, and
Speaker 2: suddenly you end up in a situation where you can't
Speaker 2: get them all back or and so we've ended up
Speaker 2: in a situation where Stranger Things is essentially like a
Speaker 2: microcosm for a lot of the complaints people have about streaming.
Speaker 2: And it's been five years since Stranger Things Season four air,
Speaker 2: which is crazy, Jason, because we caught up on the
Speaker 2: Xtra vision with the final episodes of that season four
Speaker 2: years ago, like just when it was ending. So yeah,
Speaker 2: just absolutely crazy to me. Uh, the final season is
Speaker 2: gonna be split. First four episodes are gonna premier a Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: the next three at Christmas, and the finale on December thirty.
Speaker 2: First there, they're really milking it. And they've also been
Speaker 2: talking about how these will be, you know, the classic
Speaker 2: another microcosm of streaming drama. Some of these are gonna
Speaker 2: be movie length TV episodes, like a movie. Guys, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a movie on TV. But yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting. I think all this is what we know
Speaker 2: about it. Last season, they got a new villain in
Speaker 2: Vecna and this season they're basically gonna be hunting for
Speaker 2: Vecna and and this is going to be a more
Speaker 2: actively supernatural season. And it is interesting because the Dupper Bros.
Speaker 2: Came from Netflix. It's huge smash hit, like life changing,
Speaker 2: so much money, so much fame. But recently it was announced,
Speaker 2: as you said, they're moving to Paramount Huge, which I
Speaker 2: think is a huge, huge deal. So yeah, I'm intrigued.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what is to come. I think
Speaker 2: the biggest conversation that I have seen among my friends,
Speaker 2: among our Discord users, among people who do still have
Speaker 2: passion for this show, hilariously, is mostly around Eddie Munson
Speaker 2: and how they hope he comes back this season. So
Speaker 2: let's see if they've got that. Joseph Quinn in the
Speaker 2: MCU money, Jason, do you have any feelings about the
Speaker 2: final season? What do you want? What would make this
Speaker 2: an unmissible show for you as we head into the
Speaker 2: end of the year.
Speaker 1: I it's a real like a real climax to the
Speaker 1: very winding story that ties in all the disparate kind
Speaker 1: of like personal elements from the real world and the
Speaker 1: supernatural elements and the upside down and then answers some
Speaker 1: of the mysterious questions. That would be really cool. I'm
Speaker 1: also interested more than that, though, I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what the reaction is. You mentioned how long it's been.
Speaker 1: I mean the volume season four, Volume one premiere May
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty two, Crazy and nine years is a
Speaker 1: is a immense period of time in pop culture. Do
Speaker 1: people still have the same sort of excitement and feeling
Speaker 1: for stranger things that they did three years ago or
Speaker 1: nine years ago. I'll be really fascinated to see that.
Speaker 2: Because also the gap between seasons is very different. It's
Speaker 2: not like Game of Thrones, right where every year we
Speaker 2: got a new season, so the cultural conversation keeps flowing
Speaker 2: over the eight years. This is a very much an
Speaker 2: EBB and a flow that's often the kind of non
Speaker 2: binge mode drops anymore, where you kind of just like
Speaker 2: suddenly are in a situation where you have to watch
Speaker 2: one section, then you're waiting for another section, then you're
Speaker 2: waiting for another section. Also, something very interesting about this
Speaker 2: that I think hints at how popular Netflix knows this is,
Speaker 2: and they must be getting the views. They are actually
Speaker 2: not exclusively at paramount. They are still going to be
Speaker 2: making two new seasons, The Burrows and something very Bad
Speaker 2: is gonna happen, which sounds very image comics to me,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm interested. There's also going to be a
Speaker 2: Stranger Things Tales from eighty five animated series, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it will be intriguing to see where this goes. Could
Speaker 2: be the biggest show of the year, could just kind
Speaker 2: of fall off, But I think the Christmas the holiday
Speaker 2: release schedules very clever because people are gonna want to
Speaker 2: talk about it, they're gonna want to see it, and
Speaker 2: obviously we will be catching you up in some very
Speaker 2: new fun xtra vision style formats leading into the show
Speaker 2: and making sure that you have a ton of stuff
Speaker 2: to watch around it if you are very inspired by
Speaker 2: the nostalgia rob it All when it hits later this year.
Speaker 1: Next up, Percy Jackson season two will premiere December tenth.
Speaker 1: This is, of course, based on the second installment of
Speaker 1: the acclaimed Ya series by Rick Reardan. Riridon is also
Speaker 1: writing the show for television. The same super fun cast
Speaker 1: from season one, including a Friend of the Pajas and
Speaker 1: Manzuk Dias.
Speaker 2: That's such good, costing, lightly great, and we're going to
Speaker 2: also have Courtney b Vance is actually coming in to
Speaker 2: take over the role of Zeus because Laence Reddick passed out.
Speaker 2: Kristin Shawl, Sandra Bernard and Margaret Chow are going to
Speaker 2: be there as the Gray Sisters. I think, if you
Speaker 2: are a fan we just said this, you know Stranger Things, right,
Speaker 2: that's a show about kids coming together having these adventures.
Speaker 2: This is such an underrated show. Rick Riordon got to
Speaker 2: finally have the kind of more creative influence he'd always
Speaker 2: wanted over this. The cast are incredible. It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: If you are someone it looks great, it looks really good.
Speaker 2: It's no question is one of the best Disney Plus shows.
Speaker 2: I would put that alongside all Marvel shows. It's so
Speaker 2: high quality. It's so much fun. If you love the books,
Speaker 2: you will love it. I also think something that's really
Speaker 2: exciting about this that people don't quite comprehend is Brick Riddan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he built out this universe and it's incredible and I
Speaker 2: love the Percy Jackson universe. But he has also been
Speaker 2: bringing in other authors to expand out different mythologies, different laws,
Speaker 2: different characters. I think there's so much space here to
Speaker 2: play around in and so much chance for the characters
Speaker 2: to mature and grow. I would say, look, if you're
Speaker 2: somebody who has fallen out of love with a certain
Speaker 2: magical school and its author, then this out this gives
Speaker 2: you that nostalgic, fun, adventurous space. And if you are
Speaker 2: a millennial, then it also will get you very excited
Speaker 2: because didn't we all have like a Greek gods and
Speaker 2: mid like, didn't you have that phase? I loved my
Speaker 2: Greek mythology, and I found.
Speaker 1: I used to just read the Encyclopedia like chapters on
Speaker 1: exactly and be like, Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: This has that excitement and it has that level of
Speaker 2: law in it where if you were into that stuff
Speaker 2: as a kid, you get to be excited, catch the
Speaker 2: easter eggs, enjoy it, and like we said, incredible cost.
Speaker 1: So I had part of that cast is Lynn Manuel
Speaker 1: Miranda as Hermes. I wanted to why they should have
Speaker 1: got lind to have a different haircut.
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, seems.
Speaker 1: Because he himself it's like can we get this, yes,
Speaker 1: long hair or something.
Speaker 2: This was actually this was also a problem in his
Speaker 2: doc materials. Yes not the show, which you should watch
Speaker 2: on HBO. It's so good. So I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't Lynn ever have different haircuts and the different
Speaker 1: roles he played literally just like Alexander Hamilton and Everty Row.
Speaker 2: Now, come on, guys, give him awake, give him awake.
Speaker 1: Something, give us something. Shame it down, grow it out,
Speaker 1: do something. Fellas all right. Fallout Season two comes out
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, twenty twenty five, and of course this is
Speaker 1: bringing in the much loved DLC New Vegas bringing it
Speaker 1: to the screen. Uh, we have some new cast members,
Speaker 1: including Justin throw Oolang I am listen. We loved season one,
Speaker 1: loved it was one of the for me, the surprises
Speaker 1: of the calendar you're on TV. I was I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what I thought.
Speaker 2: We were blown away by it. We just didn't understand
Speaker 2: the level of care and detail that went into this show.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was expecting, but I think,
Speaker 1: you know, having had you know, being in La and
Speaker 1: talking to people who are like in the orbit around
Speaker 1: season one, it seemed like it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a mess and nobody was quite sure if it
Speaker 1: was gonna work. And of course, you know, Jonathan Nolan
Speaker 1: famously you know, had a divisive we'll say divisive show
Speaker 1: in Westworld that I think came in with a lot
Speaker 1: of ambitions and didn't necessarily deliver on any of them,
Speaker 1: and so I was I was. I came in with
Speaker 1: very low expectations for Fallout season one and was floored.
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for season two, especially because if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Fallout video games series as
Speaker 1: I am, New Vegas has a special place.
Speaker 2: It's the peak. Like for me, that was the first one.
Speaker 2: One of my best friends that bring her up on
Speaker 2: airon law is in London, my best the Alex, and
Speaker 2: she is the big Triple A gamer out of us,
Speaker 2: and I'd seen her play Fallout, but New Vegas was
Speaker 2: the first one that we played together, and that felt
Speaker 2: like it was like you had to know about it,
Speaker 2: you had to see the world. I was also lucky
Speaker 2: enough to go to both fall Out houses, one at
Speaker 2: Halloween Horror Nights in Orlando and one at Halloween Horror
Speaker 2: Nights in La. The La fall Out House is much
Speaker 2: scarier if you're planning on going this year. And I
Speaker 2: will say that at the end, they do tease a
Speaker 2: cool new creature that people will know from the games too,
Speaker 2: so they are They did some really fun synergy there
Speaker 2: to tease what was coming in season two, but also
Speaker 2: give people the experience of going through the vault breaking out,
Speaker 2: and of course the Ghoul, which you know the Ghool.
Speaker 2: Girlies love him. And I will say, guys, if you
Speaker 2: want to see a sexy gal, you got to go
Speaker 2: to Orlando. They got a full prosthetic sexy gol La
Speaker 2: just has masks. But yes, I'm very interested. Think it
Speaker 2: looks great. I think that what we what they tease
Speaker 2: at the end of season two, put your earmuffs on
Speaker 2: if you do not want to know a spoiler for
Speaker 2: season two and the fallout Halloween Horonites Maze. They do
Speaker 2: tease the death Claw, which is like a really beloved,
Speaker 2: kind of cool, predatory, scary, scary, big horned beast. Jason. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as a fallout New Vegas lover, what would you like
Speaker 2: to see make it to the screen unchanged? Like, what
Speaker 2: is the moment that you would like to see or
Speaker 2: the vibe you would like to feel from a New
Speaker 2: Vegas season. I don't you know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because thinking about what made season one work,
Speaker 1: it's not that things were quote unquote unchanged, It's that
Speaker 1: the basic kind of texture and feel. The wackiness of
Speaker 1: the games. No one tried to make it cool, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They didn't try to be like,
Speaker 1: oh this is too weird or too discordant or no.
Speaker 1: They were just like, just make drug elements don't work
Speaker 1: or the you know, the kind of like over the
Speaker 1: top fifties elements don't work. And so I guess basically
Speaker 1: what I'm hoping is the kind of punk rock, radioactive
Speaker 1: biker gang ethos like yeah, kind of like super weird
Speaker 1: monster feel, the kind of like desert wasteland grease it
Speaker 1: meets grease kind of feel of New Vegas is just there.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that they change certain things or then
Speaker 1: certain hideouts or certain characters look perhaps different than they
Speaker 1: may have looked in the in the in the game
Speaker 1: stuff is like five years old.
Speaker 2: It's just that.
Speaker 1: Does the do they stay authentic to the texture and
Speaker 1: the feel of the story of the game itself, which
Speaker 1: they did so effectively in season one? And I have
Speaker 1: hopes for season two. Let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: won't be right back at d and we're back with
Speaker 1: our final two shows. We actually don't have a release
Speaker 1: date yet, we just know twenty twenty six. But there
Speaker 1: are things we're super excited for, and the first up
Speaker 1: is one that we have been theorizing about a lot
Speaker 1: in our connotations. Laker Truly Right and His Lanterns, the
Speaker 1: upcoming HBO Max series that will introduce Hal Jordan and
Speaker 1: John Stewart, John Stewart, the the Green Lantern to James
Speaker 1: Gunns new DC Universe. I know people, by the way,
Speaker 1: who were who were confused about the John Stewart John
Speaker 1: Stuart like who who are not aware that there is
Speaker 1: a Green Lantern character named John Stewart.
Speaker 2: There are many many a Green Lantern's, and yes, that
Speaker 2: one is named John Stewart, and it's very funny and
Speaker 2: we've all laughed about it for many years since he
Speaker 2: was first introduced. Yes, but Jason Post that crazy episode
Speaker 2: of you know, well, let's just talk peace Maker Season
Speaker 2: two has been a smash it, doing some really interesting stuff,
Speaker 2: doing some really subversive stuff. Do we feel like Lantern's
Speaker 2: is going to be able to continue that while branching
Speaker 2: out into what seems like a more obviously kind of prestige,
Speaker 2: serious thriller style TV show.
Speaker 1: Well, I have much higher hopes now than I did before.
Speaker 1: Peacemaker season two. I think what this season of Peacemaker
Speaker 1: has shown is that James Gunn has a knack for
Speaker 1: weaving together the disparate parts of his DCEU really interesting ways.
Speaker 1: The connective tissue is fascinating, and judging by Peacemaker season two,
Speaker 1: I would expect that there are going to be very
Speaker 1: definite things that happen in Peacemakers that then go on
Speaker 1: to affect other movies and shows in different ways. And
Speaker 1: I'm now super excited because I think I'm having such
Speaker 1: a fun time with Peacemaker season two, And of course
Speaker 1: I loved Creature Commandos, and I think Superman was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I think James Gunn is on a high
Speaker 1: right now. He's killing it, super excited for this.
Speaker 2: What did we you think? What do you so? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm always a bit scared when something is like pitched
Speaker 2: as like a True Detective, even though we all know
Speaker 2: season one True Detective fucking incredible, like unbelievable vibes, I
Speaker 2: still don't necessarily feel like it stuck the landing. But
Speaker 2: I think that's also kind of the point of the
Speaker 2: first season. It's very much about like transience and and
Speaker 2: how we interact with people and obviously incredible costing their
Speaker 2: unintentionally of two half brothers apparently too with the you know,
Speaker 2: Boody Harrison and Matthew mcconaugh. Unbelievable first season, but very
Speaker 2: hard to keep up with the hype of being compared
Speaker 2: to that are the seasons have struggled with that. But
Speaker 2: I will say I think that with everything we've seen
Speaker 2: in James Gunns DCU, we know that he trusts other
Speaker 2: people and trusts his collaborators to do interesting, different stuff.
Speaker 2: And they literally hired the showrunner Chris Mundy, who worked
Speaker 2: on Ozark and True Detective, so at least you're going
Speaker 2: to the right people like yeah, And what Chris Mundy
Speaker 2: told Vanity Fair recently was he doesn't feel like Green
Speaker 2: Lantern is part of a larger storytelling plan, and he
Speaker 2: felt season one is designed to be its own complete
Speaker 2: season of television that hopefully will become many seasons of TV.
Speaker 2: But we know that that doesn't mean that there's not
Speaker 2: going to be crossover. We know that Guy Gardiner will
Speaker 2: be in the show. We know that we will likely
Speaker 2: see the Lanterns coming into the end of Peacemaker season one. Also,
Speaker 2: season two. Also interesting here, Deadline basically reported that there's
Speaker 2: not gonna be a season three of Peacemaker, So this
Speaker 2: is what James S. Gunn told them. He said, you're
Speaker 2: gonna find out more about it in episode eight because
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily that some of these characters will continue.
Speaker 2: But also it's not exactly Peacemaker season three. I'm not
Speaker 2: ruling it out. You'll see an episode eight and maybe
Speaker 2: you'll find out a little bit more us so that
Speaker 2: I think could also potentially they will end up in
Speaker 2: Earth X, where, by the way, we were right, James
Speaker 2: Gunn said he's calling it Earth two because it's the
Speaker 2: second Earth we've seen, but to him it is Earth X.
Speaker 2: So I think we could see that Eleventh Street kids
Speaker 2: stuck there or in a different universe or something, and
Speaker 2: maybe that's why we don't necessarily get the season three
Speaker 2: we get. But I'm very excited to see where this
Speaker 2: is gonna go, especially because James Gunn's other kind of
Speaker 2: more serious spinoff that he was planning was gonna be
Speaker 2: the Amanda Wallace spinoff focused on Viola Davis's suicide squad Bobs,
Speaker 2: and that has been a slowgo on development. I don't
Speaker 2: doubt people have great ideas for it. But Viola Davis
Speaker 2: is Viola Davis, so you've gotta be bringing her the
Speaker 2: big money if she's running a show like that and
Speaker 2: is the star, So I think that's probably why. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Jason Ritter, I think one of the most
Speaker 2: underrated actors. He's in there as Billy McConn. We're gonna
Speaker 2: have Kelly McDonald as Terry, who's also gonna be How's
Speaker 2: love interest, Nicole Ari Parker as a character called Bernadette.
Speaker 2: We are also going to have a new on screen
Speaker 2: Sinestro played by Olric Thompson, and he's going to be
Speaker 2: a rogue former member of the Green Lantern Corps, which
Speaker 2: I think is interesting that they are not posing him
Speaker 2: as directly the antagonist. Maybe this is going to be
Speaker 2: part of the bigger threat that we get that will
Speaker 2: see Superman and Lex have to team up in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven for Man of Tomorrow, and this is very interesting.
Speaker 2: They say that we'll have Garrett Dillahunt, who was on
Speaker 2: Father Walking Dead, as William con a right self righteous,
Speaker 2: conspiracy minded man who masks his ruthless ambition behind a
Speaker 2: charming and calculated.
Speaker 1: Facons like our sounds like our big bad like.
Speaker 2: Our big bad guys. And also again I couldn't be
Speaker 2: more excited post Peacemaker episode six, James gunn gets my
Speaker 2: belief and trust. Now, if you write someone's gonna make
Speaker 2: a show about conspiracy theorist or blah blah blah, I said, Oh,
Speaker 2: is this gonna be the right thing? Do they have
Speaker 2: the juice? Can they tell a story that feels important
Speaker 2: and relevant in twenty twenty five? James Gun's just proved
Speaker 2: he can do that with Peacemaker season two, So I'm
Speaker 2: excited for this one. Jason. I think it could also
Speaker 2: be a big crossover hit with the true prestige TV
Speaker 2: crowd if it really does bring that level of true
Speaker 2: detective quality and kind of gravitas.
Speaker 1: Up next, and finally, Star Trek Starfleet Academy. You mentioned
Speaker 1: like if you're a little sick of the particular magic school,
Speaker 1: and this was one of This is one of those
Speaker 1: projects where I'm like, what took so long? This is
Speaker 1: a great idea.
Speaker 2: I literally pitched no joke. I mean, I think I
Speaker 2: can say this, but I mean I pitched a comic
Speaker 2: with this exact title, like many years ago, and that
Speaker 2: is not like they did not take that idea. Stuff
Speaker 2: Late Academy exists, but I feel like it is when
Speaker 2: you love Star Trek and you love this kind of thing,
Speaker 2: you gotta wonder. You're like, why didn't this so long?
Speaker 2: How was this not something paramount made in the CW era.
Speaker 2: Why wasn't this something they made as a competitor to
Speaker 2: the Arrow Verse? I don't know, but you know what,
Speaker 2: good news. Speaking of the CW, this shot in Toronto,
Speaker 2: So you're back in that Canadian TV making space, which
Speaker 2: often hints that maybe you're going to be doing more
Speaker 2: than one season. If you get to make a first
Speaker 2: season in Canada, you might be set up there for
Speaker 2: a while. So they recently wrapped. No premiere date, but
Speaker 2: there is a ten episode first season. Very exciting, also
Speaker 2: not ending up like the Michelle Yo series that got
Speaker 2: kind of truncated into a movie due to production and
Speaker 2: was not necessarily beloved. They also say that it's already
Speaker 2: renewed for season two. Wow, So I am very excited
Speaker 2: about this. This is gonna be a very interesting time
Speaker 2: in Star Trek canon too, because it's gonna be set
Speaker 2: in the thirty second century and it will follow the
Speaker 2: first new class of Starfleet cadets in over a century
Speaker 2: as they come of age and train to be officers.
Speaker 2: I'm in you already got me?
Speaker 1: Guys, Ye got me? The trailer looks very slick. It
Speaker 1: looks like a million zillion bucks. Yeah, and again the
Speaker 1: idea is kind of what took so long?
Speaker 2: It's literally, you guys have been sitting on money, like
Speaker 2: this is money. You could have had a kids show,
Speaker 2: a ya show. Yeah, but they know and I will say,
Speaker 2: whoever the casting person for this is understands that this
Speaker 2: could be a long running show because you've got Holly
Speaker 2: Hunter oscar Winner love Her, you got Paul Giamatti Austin
Speaker 2: on the Knee, you got Robert Picado from Voyager the Doctor,
Speaker 2: So you're getting some star trek Cannon. There also Tignataro,
Speaker 2: one of the most popular characters from Discovery, will be
Speaker 2: coming back as Jet. And then we're gonna have Tatiana
Speaker 2: maslani Or from Black and Cha Hulk. When will she
Speaker 2: finally get her emmy? Guys, maybe this will be the show.
Speaker 2: WWE superstar Becky Lynch. I guess she's trying to make
Speaker 2: that crossover. And Mary Wiseman who's also from Discovery, who
Speaker 2: will play Sylvia. It's gonna be really interesting. Also Jonathan
Speaker 2: Frakes Riiker, who he's directed a lot of recent Star
Speaker 2: Trek and Classic Star Trek. He was at Indianapolis Comic
Speaker 2: Com recently and said this is the most massive set
Speaker 2: of any Star Trek ever. There is also a spaceship
Speaker 2: on the show, which I think, well, I hope that's
Speaker 2: not our blip secret. I have been known and I've
Speaker 2: had a bad experience with oversharing, he says, I hope
Speaker 2: that wasn't an overshare. But it's fabulous. The sets of great,
Speaker 2: The scripts are they're funny, which is always helpful on
Speaker 2: Star Trek, and that hints that while this is called
Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy, we can assume that like every other season
Speaker 2: of Star Trek, there will be a new ship and
Speaker 2: a new crew. And I am a fan of modern
Speaker 2: Star Trek. I think they've done some really interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Jason, again, I mean this is like, I
Speaker 2: feel like this is printing money if you get it right.
Speaker 2: And I feel like twenty twenty six and in the
Speaker 2: wake of HBO trying to adapt The Magic School Show
Speaker 2: again and everything, I feel like there is a prime
Speaker 2: place for another kid centric show. And again going back
Speaker 2: to Stranger Things, this is what has been the meat
Speaker 2: and potatoes of streaming services. Are these big ya hits,
Speaker 2: shadow and bone stranger things. These things have been at
Speaker 2: the heart of what makes streaming successful and even shows
Speaker 2: like Squid Game or Money Heist that are not necessarily
Speaker 2: in that space are still playing to that young audience.
Speaker 2: So I think if they got it right, this could
Speaker 2: be Paramount's most successful new star Trek.
Speaker 1: I completely agree if they get it right.
Speaker 2: If they get it right, well, lots of TV to.
Speaker 1: Look forward to. On the next episodes of X ray Vision,
Speaker 1: we're diving into the staying power of K pop Demon
Speaker 1: Hunters plus Aaron interviews Jenner Andrews and Stephen Kirk, the
Speaker 1: writing team behind Free and this.
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