WEBVTT - Winter TV Roundup 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.920 Hello, it was Jesus getepcim and I'm Rosie and Night 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.320 and welcome back to x ray Vision of the podcast 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.239 where we dive deep with your favorite shows, movies, and 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.080 comments and pop culture coming from my Heart World, bringing 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.440 you three apisd s. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.720 Week Class Nips. In today's episode, we are going to 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.680 be discussing the new series that we'll be hitting before 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.239 the end of the twenty five Twenty twenty five is 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.680 almost over, guys. Winter is coming and we will be 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.120 talking about it. Welcome to Derry and a very new 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.360 secretive sci fi series from Breaking Back creator Vince Gilligan, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.120 which I'm very impressed and excited for. Then we will 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.120 be looking at returning series that we'll be hitting at 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.600 the end of this year and early next year. How 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.000 about Stranger Things? Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it? 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.680 We don't talk about it? And then we'll have a 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.440 little look see at what's coming out a beginning of 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.000 twenty twenty six. We got some lanterns Startley Academy. It's 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:12.960 gonna be fun. There's a lot of TV coming out 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.480 and it's almost October, guys, so winter is truly here. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:26.000 Start to hear the jingling of Santa's Bells. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:32.880 But first, Stephen King's empire extends across Dairy First show 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.720 to be aware of It's premiere in October twenty sixth 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.720 on HBO and HBO Max is It Welcome to Dry 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.760 not to be confused with Dairy Girls. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.320 I Love Dary. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.160 Welcome to Darry, which I believe is a documentary about 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:55.360 the troubles in Northern Ireland. No, this is completely This 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.480 is an expansion and an exploration of the universe, the 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.240 Stephen Key eight universe from her October twenty sixth, just 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.160 in time for Spooky Season, Andy Muschetti turns to direct. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:10.880 Bill Scarsgard. Is still that spooky tooth Pennywise clown. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.799 I know they got him back. I think really having 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.000 Bill and this is the most important thing. Yeah, he's 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.239 become so iconic as this modern version of Pennywise, and 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.240 also the memfication and all the great behind the scenes 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.399 stuff of him kind of playing with the kids in costume. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.680 Everyone wants to see him come back. That's probably the 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.520 biggest straw. And yeah, this is gonna be interesting. The 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:40.359 trailer definitely hints at a bleak, dark mystery and it's 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.440 gonna be about the history of Derry. So this is actually, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.480 I believe, either the parents or the grandparents of the 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.519 kids from the most recent remake. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.400 Yes. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.280 Yeah. And also something that was really interesting about the 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.320 trailer that I did not realize is much like Castle 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:03.400 Rock before it or the Beliguered Dark Tower adaptation, this 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:08.600 will be set in Stephen King's Connected universe. So we 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.239 see a bus that is bound for the Shaw Shanks 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.079 State Penitentiary. We see Dick calleran from The Shining who 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.120 is actually a major character within this series, it seems, 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.560 played by Chris Chalk, So it's definitely gonna be really 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.040 interesting to see how they cross that stuff over. It 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:29.639 makes sense to me. These movies until recently were the 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.640 biggest horror opening of all time, I believe, So I 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.040 think I get it. I didn't love the remakes. I 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.000 think they leaned a little bit too heavy into like 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.560 the kind of like everybody's saying a slur because it's 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.560 the eighties, and you were like, does this tell me 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.520 anything about this? But the show looks great. I also 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.080 love the cast. Jove Anna Deeppo, who was well reased 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.000 in Watchmen. He's also in Overlord, incredible movie. Taylor Page, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.360 who's so good in Zola. Also was recently in the 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:02.240 you know, very very old school style, low budget remake 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.280 of Toxic a Benja. So yeah, I think this is 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.800 going to be interesting. Jason, as a reader, as a 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.360 Stephen King lover, what would you like to see them 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.200 do in this show that is different than what we've 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.400 seen before with other adaptations. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.880 Great question, Well, I guess I would like to see 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.640 if they finally are able to crack the code on 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.520 a Stephen King kind of interconnected univers You mentioned Castle Rock, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.159 which is fun for a little while, but it didn't 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.760 hit did the way they would it, and kind of 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.680 seemed like it shaved the weirder edges off of King 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.560 stuff in a way that didn't make it so engaging. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.159 So I'll be interested to see if if this works, 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.560 if you can create an interconnected Stephen King universe, because 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.000 then it gets really interesting. I'll also just say, you 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.360 know it, I read it when I was maybe thirteen 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:59.200 or fourteen, I forget when, and I and in retrospect, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.000 Stephen has been quite open about how he was kind 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.719 of like in the depths of his alcoholism and drug 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.520 addiction at that time, like drinking twelve beers a day 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:15.680 while writing this book, and it definitely shows. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.480 What Oh. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.520 And it is not my favorite Stephen King book, and 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.000 it's kind of all over the place and it's quite 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.640 It's interesting to me that it has become this worldwide 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.400 smash because it is kind of other than the Clown. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:39.919 The story itself was kind of like just all over 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:44.960 the map and water, very weird, very depressing. You know, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.760 there's a child gang bang in it. It's exactly that 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.919 weird glad. But you know, I will say finally. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.880 Because I think it's interesting to touch on this. It's 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:58.760 interesting with starting here because it remakes that machete he 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.760 made that became this huge success, were so heavily influenced 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.000 by Stranger Things and the success of Stranger Things. And 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.800 now we're in a space where HBO is going to 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:12.440 be in a world where obviously Stranger Things derivative of 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.839 it and all those other eighties Stephen King vibes. But 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.080 if the show had not been so popular, you have 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.000 Stranger Things cast members who ended up in that as 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.240 So it's going to can HBO now transition that into 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.320 a post Stranger Things smash hit that expands the world 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.279 and becomes like a new you know, standout season for them. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:35.640 I'd be interested to see it. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.760 Here's my one my one other thing too, what are 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:46.760 the difficulties in making a show in which the nemesis 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.240 who must be defeated is also the kind of the star. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.760 And I think we've seen how difficult that can be 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.560 with the boys now maybe lung onto this too long, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.000 And so I'll be interested to see, like just just 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.960 how much penny Wise is actually in this because again 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.200 I think penny Wise is kind of the star of it, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.480 but also like he's he's got to lose, and are 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.720 we going to actually feel like at the end of 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.960 this show, end of this season that we got anywhere if. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.920 We can't actually and that was stakes. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:28.120 There were steaks up next Tallamasca the Secret Order, which 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.960 is adapted from and Rice's. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.840 She's still still going. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.920 She's still going, you know, another one of my high 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:39.920 school loves. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.880 And right, yeah, me too, man, And I feel like, again, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.680 it's kind of funny. There's a weird I guess, the 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.840 kind of thematic conversation throughout these about nostalgia and stuff, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.840 because yeah, definitely the case as well. For me, this 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.760 is also very funny to me because the Talamasca are 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.200 a key paw of the much believed now whole movie 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.360 Queen of the Damned, which I recently went to go 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.080 and watch at the movie theaters at Guardina Cinema, and 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.239 it was great because they were like Tullamascar Tullamasca librarians. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.040 Now it looks like the version that we are gonna 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:20.800 get with the Talamasca here is a more modernized, less archivist, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.440 more spy. They have funnily. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.280 Very very secret society. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:31.080 Very secret society, spy coded. It's gonna be set in London. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:36.920 It's only six episodes and it's the idea is that 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.760 this is the connecting tissue between all the immortal universe 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.280 stuff I will say, which is of Mayfair did not 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.320 really hit in the way they wanted it to interview 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.560 the vampire and never been bigger. Season three is gonna 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:52.120 be huge. So this is a six episode holdover series basically, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:53.880 But they did draw from a lot of stuff we 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:58.000 love Jason, like lots of John Leacarry and the spy 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.040 who came in from the cold nods here. The Talamasca 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.520 here is less like an archivist librarian, supernatural kind of 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.760 observatory space, which is what they are in the books 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.440 like they're supposed to just observe. Here, they are more 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.000 active in the supernatural world and have shady agendas. And 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.080 the one thing that I know me and Joel are 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.559 very excited for as Interview the Vampire Lovers they did. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.000 We do get Eric Bogosian here playing Daniel from Interview 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.400 the Vampire, so there will be crossover. It is interesting 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.840 to me because we have seen Justin Kirk playing Raglin James, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.559 who I assumed would be the leader of the Talamasca 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.000 TV show, but they just cast like a random new 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.880 young white guy. I get it. Sometimes you've got to 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.320 do that. So this guy, he's his names in this show, 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.600 his names Guyntona and Totally, and he'll be played by 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.360 Nicholas Denton and he's basically gonna be our in character 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.520 to the Talamasca. So six six issues, six episodes. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.360 As a as an interview with a vampire lover, as 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.600 an Ann Riis Lover, as a Queen of the Damned, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.839 lover rest and peace A Lea. What is your level 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.679 of excitement for Tallamasca the Secret Order. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:16.360 It was relatively low until I saw that Eric Bogosian 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.559 would be in it. As Daniel Malloy, He's such a 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.160 standout of the Interview Vampire show. It has given him 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.720 this kind of second wind in his career. He loves 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.480 to be a part of this gay, you know, sexy 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:32.480 horror universe. And something that I only learned today is 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.079 that Jason Schwartzman is gonna be in the show as 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.319 a vampire and he's like hiding away in a cloistered, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.319 luxurious Upper West Side penthouse. So I'm like that to 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.120 me sounds like I need to watch that show. Like, 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.160 I don't know if I love the Cia m I 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.679 five of it all, but I love Jason Swatschman, I 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.920 love Eric Bogosian, I love the Interview the Vampire series, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.840 so I'm gonna give it a try. I also love 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.920 this notion that they are gonna be developing a series 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.599 called Night Island, which is basically a resort for vampires 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.199 that they introduced in Queena the Damned. So I like 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.839 that they're kind of just pushing this wider. And I 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.880 do feel like Season three into the Vampire, which will 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.559 now be called The Vampire List stat and will be 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.280 following Lestat's kind of music career. I think that could 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.000 be a huge breakout hit for them because of the 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.960 way that people are excited for it, So it makes 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.800 sense to build this world out. I'll check it out 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:25.160 for sure. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.240 I will check it out as well. Let me ask 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.560 you this, because the first thing I thought when seeing 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.720 this from I really like the kind of spy angle 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.360 I'll see, we'll see if it works, was that I 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.560 feel like we're I feel like someone who's good at 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.679 pitching could pitch this exact sort of like spy framing 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:49.480 for a Highlander A return. Oh please, Jason Highlander. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.319 Dude, guy, I gotta say, if you are listening to 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.559 this podcast, watch out, because Jason's been letting all the 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.000 good ideas out of his pocket. So I'm saying give 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:56.520 him a call. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:02.160 Dude, Highlander in a it's like a spy secret society. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.960 Yeah, that would be really sick and like you could 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.160 have it where, you know, you get those great moments 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.679 where they'll kind of be going through all the paintings 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.640 and they'll be like, but wait, he's in, He's that 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.679 can be only one Highlander agent, guys. Okay, up next. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:24.280 The mighty nine adaptation and well not even an updation, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:33.720 a retelling a world expansion of critical roles, many many, many, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.840 many episodes with various archetypical characters from inside. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:39.360 The D and D world. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.880 The Mighty nine will basically take some of these storylines 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.800 and retell them in an animated form, and of course, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.079 all your favorite critical role people will be involved in this. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.240 This looks really fun and I think it'll be Yeah, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.080 I think it's it'll be something really accessible for folks 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.360 who are like, oh my god, how much critical role 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.439 do I have, like listen back to in order to 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.319 like figure out where we are with critical role? 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.559 So many people I know got into D and D 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.760 because of vox Markina, the first adaptation these guys did. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.320 And I have to say, if you're an Invincible lover 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.959 and you just can't wait for more gorgeously animated Invincible, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.320 watch box Markinner. The animation here is just a whole 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.319 different level. And I spoke to the guys who made 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.520 wox Mak another guys. I spoke to Kirkman who made 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.920 Invincible a couple of years ago for a big animation 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.480 piece at IGN, and all they were kept saying was 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.400 just anime, anime, anime. None of this stuff would be 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.800 happening without the success of anime. This is adult animation. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.480 These are people are fucking and drinking and getting their 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.120 heads chopped off, but it's beautifully animated. It's in this 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.319 completely cool, fantastical world, and yeah, you'll get your kind 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.920 of half awc warlocks and goblin rogues and it's gonna 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.280 be really interesting. It is adapting loosely campaign to if 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.160 you are a big critical role fan, but I would 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.199 just say, this is so such a great show to 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.000 just show someone who's been getting into your arcane or 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:09.160 your att animation. Volksmakina truly blew me away when I 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.680 saw it. I didn't really realize people were making animation 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.920 that looked like that kind of classic hand jowin animation, 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:19.400 but in this really beautiful, brutal style. Yeah, I'm excited. 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.720 And apparently critic Cal is gonna be making a video 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.040 game too, so I think we'll be there. Empire Plus 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.480 to Grow, It's gonna keep growing up. Next. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:34.080 Not a lot in this teaser trailer. Plorabis on Apple 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:41.800 TV Plus, but the creative team unstoppable. It's it's you 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.040 have to lean forward. If you're a fan of television. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:49.000 Ploribis is the new series sci fi series, apparently from 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.240 Vince Gilligan. It reunites Vince with Rhea see Horn, of course, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:59.560 Kim Wexler in the incredible, excellent and heartbreaking Better Call Saul. 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.800 You don't get a lot from the teaser. You just 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.640 kind of see someone licking donuts. But yeah, it's spooky 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.200 enough and it's Vince Gilligain, so I'll be there for sure. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.360 I can't wait. I also think the fact this is 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.760 on Apple TV plus means we know, like that is 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.160 where Severance came from, that is where Foundation came from. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.640 This is coming the home for weird sci fi. Who 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.520 wouldn't want a sci fi show from the guy who 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.440 made Breaking Bad, who made Better of Course? And I mean, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.280 I don't know if this is a spicy take anymore. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.160 I feel like I'm like ten years out of the conversation. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.400 But also like I think Better Course Soul is a 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:38.160 better show than Breaking Bad. Like I love that. I know, crazy, spicy, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.560 hot takes. I think it's for different I think different 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.440 people like different things. But my point is we were 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.680 just talking about, you know, Tallamasca, these places that struggle 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.600 to get these shows that hits and spin stuff off. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.840 Vince didn't have that problem. Vince made Breaking Bad, then 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.000 went in a completely different direction and made one of 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.440 the most heart wrenching, incredible drama shows we've ever seen 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.960 with Back Saw. That was also hilarious. I love the 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040 notion that he's now going into genre, and I think 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.400 this is an interesting point. This is what he said, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.440 after fifteen years of anti heroes, I figured it would 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.800 be time to write something about somebody trying to be good. Now. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.920 I think this is something we are starting to see more. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.120 This is James Gunn talking about why Superman has to 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.120 be good, why he doesn't mind being Pollyanna. We're so 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:29.280 obsessed with these dark, gritty anti heroes. I'm very excited 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:35.080 to see a show about this. And essentially they the 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.400 pitch is so intriguing, like this is the kind of 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.760 shit where you're getting a meeting. If you're Vince and 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.000 you pitch this, you're getting a meeting anyway because you're vinced. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.480 But because this is what they say, this is all 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:50.440 we know about the show. Seahorn plays Carol, the most 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.480 miserable person on earth who must save the world from happiness, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.120 and the tagline is happiness is Infectious. So I'm just like, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.960 I don't know what's going on, but I want to 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:00.520 watch it. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.200 Same here, and let's just take a quick moment. We 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.639 mentioned it at the beginning of this little segment for 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:14.080 this show, Apple TV plus really is betting heavily on 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.080 sci fi foundation you mentioned Severn's of course Silo j 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.439 C for all that kind monarch legacy of months Jo 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.760 season Dark Matter. Like there, it's they are betting heavily 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.920 on sci fi. Some of it has hit obviously much 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.760 harder than others, but all very interesting swings. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:38.640 So I'm yeah. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.280 At Murder Bond, I forgot to say, oh. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.000 My God, which by the way ended up being like 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.080 a sleep a hit for them, which did kind of 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.679 predict and we all getting a season two. I think 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.440 you make a great point, Apple plus, Apple TV plus 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.000 ever since the opening, I mean I went to the 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.520 first step visit Apple Ever did and it was formed 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.760 all Mankind and that still stands as one of the 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.200 best sci fi shows that we've gotten. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.400 And the loss at that absolute sleeper show. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.240 Yeah, Like, I love that they're investing in this stuff, 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.200 and I can't wait A love re A Seahorn and 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.399 I can't wait to see where this goes. It sounds 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.640 like the exact kind of weird kind of Zero's British TV, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.360 like Utopia or something where you never see what's coming 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.280 and then once it hits you're just obsessed. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.960 Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:42.760 Efforts and we're back, folks. The kids are now thirty 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:49.840 five thirty children have children in real life. Yes, of 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.480 course we're talking about season five, the final season of 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.480 Stranger Things and the final season of content by the 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:02.479 Duffer brothers at the Home where they broke big Netflix folks. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.280 Whoof I wonder now how excited people really will be. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.120 It's been a long it's been. It feels like it's 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.200 been a long time since season four. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.000 It's been nine years since season one too, So like, 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.920 that's not crazy, that's crazy. This is I think also representative, 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.960 ironically of the impact of Stranger Things in many ways, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.720 because Stranger Things was Netflix's big global smash post the 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.720 prestige arrival of House of Cards, and this was a 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:40.200 cultural phenomenon and it established what people then wanted from streaming. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.160 It also set up the binge model as the way 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.040 to watch a new show. But with all of that said, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.159 we also ended up in this situation with these huge 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.320 gaps in between seasons, and as the shows became bigger 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.320 than the kids went out to do other stuff, and 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.600 suddenly you end up in a situation where you can't 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.919 get them all back or and so we've ended up 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.080 in a situation where Stranger Things is essentially like a 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.800 microcosm for a lot of the complaints people have about streaming. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.080 And it's been five years since Stranger Things Season four air, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.760 which is crazy, Jason, because we caught up on the 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.480 Xtra vision with the final episodes of that season four 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.840 years ago, like just when it was ending. So yeah, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.840 just absolutely crazy to me. Uh, the final season is 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:28.119 gonna be split. First four episodes are gonna premier a Thanksgiving, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.080 the next three at Christmas, and the finale on December thirty. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.800 First there, they're really milking it. And they've also been 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:39.680 talking about how these will be, you know, the classic 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.920 another microcosm of streaming drama. Some of these are gonna 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.480 be movie length TV episodes, like a movie. Guys, it's 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.920 gonna be a movie on TV. But yeah, it's gonna 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.399 be interesting. I think all this is what we know 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.240 about it. Last season, they got a new villain in 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.359 Vecna and this season they're basically gonna be hunting for 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.800 Vecna and and this is going to be a more 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:08.879 actively supernatural season. And it is interesting because the Dupper Bros. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.240 Came from Netflix. It's huge smash hit, like life changing, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.480 so much money, so much fame. But recently it was announced, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.200 as you said, they're moving to Paramount Huge, which I 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:26.720 think is a huge, huge deal. So yeah, I'm intrigued. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.080 I don't really know what is to come. I think 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.600 the biggest conversation that I have seen among my friends, 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.800 among our Discord users, among people who do still have 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.640 passion for this show, hilariously, is mostly around Eddie Munson 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.720 and how they hope he comes back this season. So 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.240 let's see if they've got that. Joseph Quinn in the 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.119 MCU money, Jason, do you have any feelings about the 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.560 final season? What do you want? What would make this 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.920 an unmissible show for you as we head into the 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:54.640 end of the year. 0:21:54.880 --> 0:22:00.639 I it's a real like a real climax to the 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:05.320 very winding story that ties in all the disparate kind 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.280 of like personal elements from the real world and the 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.960 supernatural elements and the upside down and then answers some 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.960 of the mysterious questions. That would be really cool. I'm 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.720 also interested more than that, though, I'm interested to see 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.200 what the reaction is. You mentioned how long it's been. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.640 I mean the volume season four, Volume one premiere May 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:30.320 twenty seven, twenty two, Crazy and nine years is a 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:36.960 is a immense period of time in pop culture. Do 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.879 people still have the same sort of excitement and feeling 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.760 for stranger things that they did three years ago or 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.800 nine years ago. I'll be really fascinated to see that. 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.720 Because also the gap between seasons is very different. It's 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.760 not like Game of Thrones, right where every year we 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.840 got a new season, so the cultural conversation keeps flowing 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:57.840 over the eight years. This is a very much an 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:01.520 EBB and a flow that's often the kind of non 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.560 binge mode drops anymore, where you kind of just like 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.640 suddenly are in a situation where you have to watch 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.000 one section, then you're waiting for another section, then you're 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.800 waiting for another section. Also, something very interesting about this 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:18.280 that I think hints at how popular Netflix knows this is, 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.119 and they must be getting the views. They are actually 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.440 not exclusively at paramount. They are still going to be 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.080 making two new seasons, The Burrows and something very Bad 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.359 is gonna happen, which sounds very image comics to me, 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.080 so yeah, I'm interested. There's also going to be a 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.960