1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Hello, it was Jesus getepcim and I'm Rosie and Night 2 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: and welcome back to x ray Vision of the podcast 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: where we dive deep with your favorite shows, movies, and 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: comments and pop culture coming from my Heart World, bringing 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: you three apisd s. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Week Class Nips. In today's episode, we are going to 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: be discussing the new series that we'll be hitting before 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: the end of the twenty five Twenty twenty five is 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: almost over, guys. Winter is coming and we will be 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: talking about it. Welcome to Derry and a very new 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: secretive sci fi series from Breaking Back creator Vince Gilligan, 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: which I'm very impressed and excited for. Then we will 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: be looking at returning series that we'll be hitting at 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: the end of this year and early next year. How 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: about Stranger Things? Ever heard of it? Ever heard of it? 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: We don't talk about it? And then we'll have a 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: little look see at what's coming out a beginning of 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We got some lanterns Startley Academy. It's 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: gonna be fun. There's a lot of TV coming out 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: and it's almost October, guys, so winter is truly here. 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Start to hear the jingling of Santa's Bells. 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: But first, Stephen King's empire extends across Dairy First show 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: to be aware of It's premiere in October twenty sixth 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: on HBO and HBO Max is It Welcome to Dry 25 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: not to be confused with Dairy Girls. 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: I Love Dary. 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Darry, which I believe is a documentary about 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: the troubles in Northern Ireland. No, this is completely This 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: is an expansion and an exploration of the universe, the 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: Stephen Key eight universe from her October twenty sixth, just 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: in time for Spooky Season, Andy Muschetti turns to direct. 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Bill Scarsgard. Is still that spooky tooth Pennywise clown. 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: I know they got him back. I think really having 34 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Bill and this is the most important thing. Yeah, he's 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: become so iconic as this modern version of Pennywise, and 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: also the memfication and all the great behind the scenes 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: stuff of him kind of playing with the kids in costume. 38 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to see him come back. That's probably the 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: biggest straw. And yeah, this is gonna be interesting. The 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: trailer definitely hints at a bleak, dark mystery and it's 41 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: gonna be about the history of Derry. So this is actually, 42 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: I believe, either the parents or the grandparents of the 43 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: kids from the most recent remake. 44 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Yes. 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And also something that was really interesting about the 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: trailer that I did not realize is much like Castle 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: Rock before it or the Beliguered Dark Tower adaptation, this 48 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: will be set in Stephen King's Connected universe. So we 49 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: see a bus that is bound for the Shaw Shanks 50 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: State Penitentiary. We see Dick calleran from The Shining who 51 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: is actually a major character within this series, it seems, 52 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: played by Chris Chalk, So it's definitely gonna be really 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: interesting to see how they cross that stuff over. It 54 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. These movies until recently were the 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: biggest horror opening of all time, I believe, So I 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: think I get it. I didn't love the remakes. I 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: think they leaned a little bit too heavy into like 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: the kind of like everybody's saying a slur because it's 59 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: the eighties, and you were like, does this tell me 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: anything about this? But the show looks great. I also 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: love the cast. Jove Anna Deeppo, who was well reased 62 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: in Watchmen. He's also in Overlord, incredible movie. Taylor Page, 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: who's so good in Zola. Also was recently in the 64 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, very very old school style, low budget remake 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: of Toxic a Benja. So yeah, I think this is 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: going to be interesting. Jason, as a reader, as a 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: Stephen King lover, what would you like to see them 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: do in this show that is different than what we've 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: seen before with other adaptations. 70 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Great question, Well, I guess I would like to see 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: if they finally are able to crack the code on 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: a Stephen King kind of interconnected univers You mentioned Castle Rock, 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: which is fun for a little while, but it didn't 74 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: hit did the way they would it, and kind of 75 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: seemed like it shaved the weirder edges off of King 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: stuff in a way that didn't make it so engaging. 77 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see if if this works, 78 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: if you can create an interconnected Stephen King universe, because 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: then it gets really interesting. I'll also just say, you 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: know it, I read it when I was maybe thirteen 81 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: or fourteen, I forget when, and I and in retrospect, 82 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Stephen has been quite open about how he was kind 83 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: of like in the depths of his alcoholism and drug 84 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: addiction at that time, like drinking twelve beers a day 85 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: while writing this book, and it definitely shows. 86 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: What Oh. 87 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: And it is not my favorite Stephen King book, and 88 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of all over the place and it's quite 89 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that it has become this worldwide 90 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: smash because it is kind of other than the Clown. 91 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: The story itself was kind of like just all over 92 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: the map and water, very weird, very depressing. You know, 93 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: there's a child gang bang in it. It's exactly that 94 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: weird glad. But you know, I will say finally. 95 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Because I think it's interesting to touch on this. It's 96 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: interesting with starting here because it remakes that machete he 97 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: made that became this huge success, were so heavily influenced 98 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: by Stranger Things and the success of Stranger Things. And 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: now we're in a space where HBO is going to 100 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: be in a world where obviously Stranger Things derivative of 101 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: it and all those other eighties Stephen King vibes. But 102 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: if the show had not been so popular, you have 103 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: Stranger Things cast members who ended up in that as 104 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: So it's going to can HBO now transition that into 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: a post Stranger Things smash hit that expands the world 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: and becomes like a new you know, standout season for them. 107 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: I'd be interested to see it. 108 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Here's my one my one other thing too, what are 109 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: the difficulties in making a show in which the nemesis 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: who must be defeated is also the kind of the star. 111 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen how difficult that can be 112 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: with the boys now maybe lung onto this too long, 113 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: And so I'll be interested to see, like just just 114 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: how much penny Wise is actually in this because again 115 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I think penny Wise is kind of the star of it, 116 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: but also like he's he's got to lose, and are 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: we going to actually feel like at the end of 118 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: this show, end of this season that we got anywhere if. 119 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: We can't actually and that was stakes. 120 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: There were steaks up next Tallamasca the Secret Order, which 121 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: is adapted from and Rice's. 122 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: She's still still going. 123 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: She's still going, you know, another one of my high 124 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: school loves. 125 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: And right, yeah, me too, man, And I feel like, again, 126 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. There's a weird I guess, the 127 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: kind of thematic conversation throughout these about nostalgia and stuff, 128 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: because yeah, definitely the case as well. For me, this 129 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: is also very funny to me because the Talamasca are 130 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: a key paw of the much believed now whole movie 131 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Queen of the Damned, which I recently went to go 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: and watch at the movie theaters at Guardina Cinema, and 133 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 2: it was great because they were like Tullamascar Tullamasca librarians. 134 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Now it looks like the version that we are gonna 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: get with the Talamasca here is a more modernized, less archivist, 136 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: more spy. They have funnily. 137 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Very very secret society. 138 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Very secret society, spy coded. It's gonna be set in London. 139 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: It's only six episodes and it's the idea is that 140 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: this is the connecting tissue between all the immortal universe 141 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: stuff I will say, which is of Mayfair did not 142 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: really hit in the way they wanted it to interview 143 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: the vampire and never been bigger. Season three is gonna 144 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: be huge. So this is a six episode holdover series basically, 145 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: But they did draw from a lot of stuff we 146 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: love Jason, like lots of John Leacarry and the spy 147 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: who came in from the cold nods here. The Talamasca 148 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: here is less like an archivist librarian, supernatural kind of 149 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: observatory space, which is what they are in the books 150 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: like they're supposed to just observe. Here, they are more 151 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: active in the supernatural world and have shady agendas. And 152 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: the one thing that I know me and Joel are 153 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: very excited for as Interview the Vampire Lovers they did. 154 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: We do get Eric Bogosian here playing Daniel from Interview 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: the Vampire, so there will be crossover. It is interesting 156 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: to me because we have seen Justin Kirk playing Raglin James, 157 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: who I assumed would be the leader of the Talamasca 158 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: TV show, but they just cast like a random new 159 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: young white guy. I get it. Sometimes you've got to 160 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: do that. So this guy, he's his names in this show, 161 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: his names Guyntona and Totally, and he'll be played by 162 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Nicholas Denton and he's basically gonna be our in character 163 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: to the Talamasca. So six six issues, six episodes. 164 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: As a as an interview with a vampire lover, as 165 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: an Ann Riis Lover, as a Queen of the Damned, 166 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: lover rest and peace A Lea. What is your level 167 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: of excitement for Tallamasca the Secret Order. 168 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: It was relatively low until I saw that Eric Bogosian 169 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: would be in it. As Daniel Malloy, He's such a 170 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: standout of the Interview Vampire show. It has given him 171 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: this kind of second wind in his career. He loves 172 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: to be a part of this gay, you know, sexy 173 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: horror universe. And something that I only learned today is 174 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: that Jason Schwartzman is gonna be in the show as 175 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 2: a vampire and he's like hiding away in a cloistered, 176 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: luxurious Upper West Side penthouse. So I'm like that to 177 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: me sounds like I need to watch that show. Like, 178 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if I love the Cia m I 179 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: five of it all, but I love Jason Swatschman, I 180 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: love Eric Bogosian, I love the Interview the Vampire series, 181 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna give it a try. I also love 182 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: this notion that they are gonna be developing a series 183 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 2: called Night Island, which is basically a resort for vampires 184 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: that they introduced in Queena the Damned. So I like 185 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: that they're kind of just pushing this wider. And I 186 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: do feel like Season three into the Vampire, which will 187 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: now be called The Vampire List stat and will be 188 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: following Lestat's kind of music career. I think that could 189 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: be a huge breakout hit for them because of the 190 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: way that people are excited for it, So it makes 191 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: sense to build this world out. I'll check it out 192 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: for sure. 193 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I will check it out as well. Let me ask 194 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: you this, because the first thing I thought when seeing 195 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: this from I really like the kind of spy angle 196 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I'll see, we'll see if it works, was that I 197 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: feel like we're I feel like someone who's good at 198 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: pitching could pitch this exact sort of like spy framing 199 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: for a Highlander A return. Oh please, Jason Highlander. 200 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: Dude, guy, I gotta say, if you are listening to 201 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: this podcast, watch out, because Jason's been letting all the 202 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: good ideas out of his pocket. So I'm saying give 203 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: him a call. 204 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Dude, Highlander in a it's like a spy secret society. 205 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be really sick and like you could 206 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: have it where, you know, you get those great moments 207 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: where they'll kind of be going through all the paintings 208 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: and they'll be like, but wait, he's in, He's that 209 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: can be only one Highlander agent, guys. Okay, up next. 210 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: The mighty nine adaptation and well not even an updation, 211 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: a retelling a world expansion of critical roles, many many, many, 212 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: many episodes with various archetypical characters from inside. 213 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: The D and D world. 214 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: The Mighty nine will basically take some of these storylines 215 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: and retell them in an animated form, and of course, 216 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: all your favorite critical role people will be involved in this. 217 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: This looks really fun and I think it'll be Yeah, 218 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: I think it's it'll be something really accessible for folks 219 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: who are like, oh my god, how much critical role 220 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: do I have, like listen back to in order to 221 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: like figure out where we are with critical role? 222 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: So many people I know got into D and D 223 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: because of vox Markina, the first adaptation these guys did. 224 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: And I have to say, if you're an Invincible lover 225 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: and you just can't wait for more gorgeously animated Invincible, 226 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: watch box Markinner. The animation here is just a whole 227 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: different level. And I spoke to the guys who made 228 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: wox Mak another guys. I spoke to Kirkman who made 229 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Invincible a couple of years ago for a big animation 230 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: piece at IGN, and all they were kept saying was 231 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: just anime, anime, anime. None of this stuff would be 232 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: happening without the success of anime. This is adult animation. 233 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: These are people are fucking and drinking and getting their 234 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: heads chopped off, but it's beautifully animated. It's in this 235 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: completely cool, fantastical world, and yeah, you'll get your kind 236 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: of half awc warlocks and goblin rogues and it's gonna 237 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: be really interesting. It is adapting loosely campaign to if 238 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: you are a big critical role fan, but I would 239 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: just say, this is so such a great show to 240 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: just show someone who's been getting into your arcane or 241 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: your att animation. Volksmakina truly blew me away when I 242 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: saw it. I didn't really realize people were making animation 243 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: that looked like that kind of classic hand jowin animation, 244 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: but in this really beautiful, brutal style. Yeah, I'm excited. 245 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: And apparently critic Cal is gonna be making a video 246 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: game too, so I think we'll be there. Empire Plus 247 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: to Grow, It's gonna keep growing up. Next. 248 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Not a lot in this teaser trailer. Plorabis on Apple 249 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: TV Plus, but the creative team unstoppable. It's it's you 250 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: have to lean forward. If you're a fan of television. 251 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Ploribis is the new series sci fi series, apparently from 252 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: Vince Gilligan. It reunites Vince with Rhea see Horn, of course, 253 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Kim Wexler in the incredible, excellent and heartbreaking Better Call Saul. 254 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: You don't get a lot from the teaser. You just 255 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: kind of see someone licking donuts. But yeah, it's spooky 256 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: enough and it's Vince Gilligain, so I'll be there for sure. 257 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait. I also think the fact this is 258 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: on Apple TV plus means we know, like that is 259 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: where Severance came from, that is where Foundation came from. 260 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: This is coming the home for weird sci fi. Who 261 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't want a sci fi show from the guy who 262 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: made Breaking Bad, who made Better of Course? And I mean, 263 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a spicy take anymore. 264 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like ten years out of the conversation. 265 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: But also like I think Better Course Soul is a 266 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: better show than Breaking Bad. Like I love that. I know, crazy, spicy, 267 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: hot takes. I think it's for different I think different 268 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: people like different things. But my point is we were 269 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: just talking about, you know, Tallamasca, these places that struggle 270 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: to get these shows that hits and spin stuff off. 271 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Vince didn't have that problem. Vince made Breaking Bad, then 272 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: went in a completely different direction and made one of 273 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: the most heart wrenching, incredible drama shows we've ever seen 274 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: with Back Saw. That was also hilarious. I love the 275 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: notion that he's now going into genre, and I think 276 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: this is an interesting point. This is what he said, 277 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: after fifteen years of anti heroes, I figured it would 278 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: be time to write something about somebody trying to be good. Now. 279 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: I think this is something we are starting to see more. 280 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: This is James Gunn talking about why Superman has to 281 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: be good, why he doesn't mind being Pollyanna. We're so 282 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: obsessed with these dark, gritty anti heroes. I'm very excited 283 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: to see a show about this. And essentially they the 284 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: pitch is so intriguing, like this is the kind of 285 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: shit where you're getting a meeting. If you're Vince and 286 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: you pitch this, you're getting a meeting anyway because you're vinced. 287 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: But because this is what they say, this is all 288 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: we know about the show. Seahorn plays Carol, the most 289 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: miserable person on earth who must save the world from happiness, 290 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: and the tagline is happiness is Infectious. So I'm just like, 291 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but I want to 292 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: watch it. 293 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: Same here, and let's just take a quick moment. We 294 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: mentioned it at the beginning of this little segment for 295 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: this show, Apple TV plus really is betting heavily on 296 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: sci fi foundation you mentioned Severn's of course Silo j 297 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: C for all that kind monarch legacy of months Jo 298 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: season Dark Matter. Like there, it's they are betting heavily 299 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: on sci fi. Some of it has hit obviously much 300 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: harder than others, but all very interesting swings. 301 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: So I'm yeah. 302 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: At Murder Bond, I forgot to say, oh. 303 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: My God, which by the way ended up being like 304 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: a sleep a hit for them, which did kind of 305 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: predict and we all getting a season two. I think 306 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: you make a great point, Apple plus, Apple TV plus 307 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: ever since the opening, I mean I went to the 308 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: first step visit Apple Ever did and it was formed 309 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: all Mankind and that still stands as one of the 310 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: best sci fi shows that we've gotten. 311 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: And the loss at that absolute sleeper show. 312 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I love that they're investing in this stuff, 313 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: and I can't wait A love re A Seahorn and 314 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see where this goes. It sounds 315 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: like the exact kind of weird kind of Zero's British TV, 316 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: like Utopia or something where you never see what's coming 317 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: and then once it hits you're just obsessed. 318 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. 319 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Efforts and we're back, folks. The kids are now thirty 320 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: five thirty children have children in real life. Yes, of 321 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: course we're talking about season five, the final season of 322 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Stranger Things and the final season of content by the 323 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: Duffer brothers at the Home where they broke big Netflix folks. 324 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Whoof I wonder now how excited people really will be. 325 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: It's been a long it's been. It feels like it's 326 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: been a long time since season four. 327 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: It's been nine years since season one too, So like, 328 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: that's not crazy, that's crazy. This is I think also representative, 329 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: ironically of the impact of Stranger Things in many ways, 330 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: because Stranger Things was Netflix's big global smash post the 331 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: prestige arrival of House of Cards, and this was a 332 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon and it established what people then wanted from streaming. 333 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: It also set up the binge model as the way 334 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: to watch a new show. But with all of that said, 335 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: we also ended up in this situation with these huge 336 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: gaps in between seasons, and as the shows became bigger 337 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: than the kids went out to do other stuff, and 338 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: suddenly you end up in a situation where you can't 339 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: get them all back or and so we've ended up 340 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: in a situation where Stranger Things is essentially like a 341 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: microcosm for a lot of the complaints people have about streaming. 342 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: And it's been five years since Stranger Things Season four air, 343 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: which is crazy, Jason, because we caught up on the 344 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: Xtra vision with the final episodes of that season four 345 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: years ago, like just when it was ending. So yeah, 346 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: just absolutely crazy to me. Uh, the final season is 347 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: gonna be split. First four episodes are gonna premier a Thanksgiving, 348 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: the next three at Christmas, and the finale on December thirty. 349 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: First there, they're really milking it. And they've also been 350 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: talking about how these will be, you know, the classic 351 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: another microcosm of streaming drama. Some of these are gonna 352 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: be movie length TV episodes, like a movie. Guys, it's 353 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: gonna be a movie on TV. But yeah, it's gonna 354 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 2: be interesting. I think all this is what we know 355 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: about it. Last season, they got a new villain in 356 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Vecna and this season they're basically gonna be hunting for 357 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Vecna and and this is going to be a more 358 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: actively supernatural season. And it is interesting because the Dupper Bros. 359 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: Came from Netflix. It's huge smash hit, like life changing, 360 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: so much money, so much fame. But recently it was announced, 361 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: as you said, they're moving to Paramount Huge, which I 362 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: think is a huge, huge deal. So yeah, I'm intrigued. 363 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: I don't really know what is to come. I think 364 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: the biggest conversation that I have seen among my friends, 365 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: among our Discord users, among people who do still have 366 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: passion for this show, hilariously, is mostly around Eddie Munson 367 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: and how they hope he comes back this season. So 368 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: let's see if they've got that. Joseph Quinn in the 369 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: MCU money, Jason, do you have any feelings about the 370 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: final season? What do you want? What would make this 371 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: an unmissible show for you as we head into the 372 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: end of the year. 373 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: I it's a real like a real climax to the 374 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: very winding story that ties in all the disparate kind 375 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: of like personal elements from the real world and the 376 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: supernatural elements and the upside down and then answers some 377 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: of the mysterious questions. That would be really cool. I'm 378 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: also interested more than that, though, I'm interested to see 379 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: what the reaction is. You mentioned how long it's been. 380 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean the volume season four, Volume one premiere May 381 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty two, Crazy and nine years is a 382 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: is a immense period of time in pop culture. Do 383 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: people still have the same sort of excitement and feeling 384 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: for stranger things that they did three years ago or 385 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: nine years ago. I'll be really fascinated to see that. 386 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: Because also the gap between seasons is very different. It's 387 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: not like Game of Thrones, right where every year we 388 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: got a new season, so the cultural conversation keeps flowing 389 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: over the eight years. This is a very much an 390 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: EBB and a flow that's often the kind of non 391 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: binge mode drops anymore, where you kind of just like 392 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: suddenly are in a situation where you have to watch 393 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: one section, then you're waiting for another section, then you're 394 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: waiting for another section. Also, something very interesting about this 395 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: that I think hints at how popular Netflix knows this is, 396 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: and they must be getting the views. They are actually 397 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: not exclusively at paramount. They are still going to be 398 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: making two new seasons, The Burrows and something very Bad 399 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: is gonna happen, which sounds very image comics to me, 400 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm interested. There's also going to be a 401 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: Stranger Things Tales from eighty five animated series, so yeah, 402 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: it will be intriguing to see where this goes. Could 403 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: be the biggest show of the year, could just kind 404 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: of fall off, But I think the Christmas the holiday 405 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: release schedules very clever because people are gonna want to 406 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: talk about it, they're gonna want to see it, and 407 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: obviously we will be catching you up in some very 408 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: new fun xtra vision style formats leading into the show 409 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: and making sure that you have a ton of stuff 410 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: to watch around it if you are very inspired by 411 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: the nostalgia rob it All when it hits later this year. 412 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Next up, Percy Jackson season two will premiere December tenth. 413 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: This is, of course, based on the second installment of 414 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: the acclaimed Ya series by Rick Reardan. Riridon is also 415 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: writing the show for television. The same super fun cast 416 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: from season one, including a Friend of the Pajas and 417 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: Manzuk Dias. 418 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: That's such good, costing, lightly great, and we're going to 419 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: also have Courtney b Vance is actually coming in to 420 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: take over the role of Zeus because Laence Reddick passed out. 421 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Kristin Shawl, Sandra Bernard and Margaret Chow are going to 422 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: be there as the Gray Sisters. I think, if you 423 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: are a fan we just said this, you know Stranger Things, right, 424 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: that's a show about kids coming together having these adventures. 425 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: This is such an underrated show. Rick Riordon got to 426 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: finally have the kind of more creative influence he'd always 427 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: wanted over this. The cast are incredible. It's so much fun. 428 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: If you are someone it looks great, it looks really good. 429 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: It's no question is one of the best Disney Plus shows. 430 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: I would put that alongside all Marvel shows. It's so 431 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: high quality. It's so much fun. If you love the books, 432 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: you will love it. I also think something that's really 433 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: exciting about this that people don't quite comprehend is Brick Riddan. Yeah, 434 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: he built out this universe and it's incredible and I 435 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: love the Percy Jackson universe. But he has also been 436 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: bringing in other authors to expand out different mythologies, different laws, 437 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: different characters. I think there's so much space here to 438 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: play around in and so much chance for the characters 439 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: to mature and grow. I would say, look, if you're 440 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: somebody who has fallen out of love with a certain 441 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: magical school and its author, then this out this gives 442 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: you that nostalgic, fun, adventurous space. And if you are 443 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: a millennial, then it also will get you very excited 444 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: because didn't we all have like a Greek gods and 445 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: mid like, didn't you have that phase? I loved my 446 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Greek mythology, and I found. 447 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: I used to just read the Encyclopedia like chapters on 448 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: exactly and be like, Oh, that's so cool. 449 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: This has that excitement and it has that level of 450 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: law in it where if you were into that stuff 451 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: as a kid, you get to be excited, catch the 452 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: easter eggs, enjoy it, and like we said, incredible cost. 453 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: So I had part of that cast is Lynn Manuel 454 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Miranda as Hermes. I wanted to why they should have 455 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: got lind to have a different haircut. 456 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh, my god, seems. 457 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Because he himself it's like can we get this, yes, 458 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: long hair or something. 459 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: This was actually this was also a problem in his 460 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: doc materials. Yes not the show, which you should watch 461 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: on HBO. It's so good. So I can't. 462 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: I can't Lynn ever have different haircuts and the different 463 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: roles he played literally just like Alexander Hamilton and Everty Row. 464 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: Now, come on, guys, give him awake, give him awake. 465 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: Something, give us something. Shame it down, grow it out, 466 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: do something. Fellas all right. Fallout Season two comes out 467 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: December seventeenth, twenty twenty five, and of course this is 468 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: bringing in the much loved DLC New Vegas bringing it 469 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: to the screen. Uh, we have some new cast members, 470 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: including Justin throw Oolang I am listen. We loved season one, 471 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: loved it was one of the for me, the surprises 472 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: of the calendar you're on TV. I was I don't 473 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: know exactly what I thought. 474 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 2: We were blown away by it. We just didn't understand 475 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: the level of care and detail that went into this show. 476 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what I was expecting, but I think, 477 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, having had you know, being in La and 478 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: talking to people who are like in the orbit around 479 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: season one, it seemed like it was a little bit 480 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: of a mess and nobody was quite sure if it 481 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: was gonna work. And of course, you know, Jonathan Nolan 482 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: famously you know, had a divisive we'll say divisive show 483 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: in Westworld that I think came in with a lot 484 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: of ambitions and didn't necessarily deliver on any of them, 485 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: and so I was I was. I came in with 486 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: very low expectations for Fallout season one and was floored. 487 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for season two, especially because if 488 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Fallout video games series as 489 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: I am, New Vegas has a special place. 490 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: It's the peak. Like for me, that was the first one. 491 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: One of my best friends that bring her up on 492 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: airon law is in London, my best the Alex, and 493 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: she is the big Triple A gamer out of us, 494 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: and I'd seen her play Fallout, but New Vegas was 495 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: the first one that we played together, and that felt 496 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: like it was like you had to know about it, 497 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: you had to see the world. I was also lucky 498 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: enough to go to both fall Out houses, one at 499 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: Halloween Horror Nights in Orlando and one at Halloween Horror 500 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: Nights in La. The La fall Out House is much 501 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: scarier if you're planning on going this year. And I 502 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: will say that at the end, they do tease a 503 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 2: cool new creature that people will know from the games too, 504 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: so they are They did some really fun synergy there 505 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: to tease what was coming in season two, but also 506 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: give people the experience of going through the vault breaking out, 507 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: and of course the Ghoul, which you know the Ghool. 508 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: Girlies love him. And I will say, guys, if you 509 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: want to see a sexy gal, you got to go 510 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: to Orlando. They got a full prosthetic sexy gol La 511 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: just has masks. But yes, I'm very interested. Think it 512 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: looks great. I think that what we what they tease 513 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: at the end of season two, put your earmuffs on 514 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: if you do not want to know a spoiler for 515 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: season two and the fallout Halloween Horonites Maze. They do 516 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: tease the death Claw, which is like a really beloved, 517 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: kind of cool, predatory, scary, scary, big horned beast. Jason. Yeah, 518 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: as a fallout New Vegas lover, what would you like 519 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: to see make it to the screen unchanged? Like, what 520 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: is the moment that you would like to see or 521 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: the vibe you would like to feel from a New 522 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: Vegas season. I don't you know. 523 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting because thinking about what made season one work, 524 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: it's not that things were quote unquote unchanged, It's that 525 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: the basic kind of texture and feel. The wackiness of 526 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: the games. No one tried to make it cool, you 527 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean. They didn't try to be like, 528 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: oh this is too weird or too discordant or no. 529 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: They were just like, just make drug elements don't work 530 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: or the you know, the kind of like over the 531 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: top fifties elements don't work. And so I guess basically 532 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: what I'm hoping is the kind of punk rock, radioactive 533 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: biker gang ethos like yeah, kind of like super weird 534 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: monster feel, the kind of like desert wasteland grease it 535 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: meets grease kind of feel of New Vegas is just there. 536 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: I don't mind that they change certain things or then 537 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: certain hideouts or certain characters look perhaps different than they 538 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: may have looked in the in the in the game 539 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: stuff is like five years old. 540 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: It's just that. 541 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Does the do they stay authentic to the texture and 542 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the feel of the story of the game itself, which 543 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: they did so effectively in season one? And I have 544 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: hopes for season two. Let's take a quick break and 545 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: won't be right back at d and we're back with 546 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: our final two shows. We actually don't have a release 547 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: date yet, we just know twenty twenty six. But there 548 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: are things we're super excited for, and the first up 549 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: is one that we have been theorizing about a lot 550 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: in our connotations. Laker Truly Right and His Lanterns, the 551 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: upcoming HBO Max series that will introduce Hal Jordan and 552 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: John Stewart, John Stewart, the the Green Lantern to James 553 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Gunns new DC Universe. I know people, by the way, 554 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: who were who were confused about the John Stewart John 555 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Stuart like who who are not aware that there is 556 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: a Green Lantern character named John Stewart. 557 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: There are many many a Green Lantern's, and yes, that 558 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: one is named John Stewart, and it's very funny and 559 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: we've all laughed about it for many years since he 560 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: was first introduced. Yes, but Jason Post that crazy episode 561 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: of you know, well, let's just talk peace Maker Season 562 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: two has been a smash it, doing some really interesting stuff, 563 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: doing some really subversive stuff. Do we feel like Lantern's 564 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: is going to be able to continue that while branching 565 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: out into what seems like a more obviously kind of prestige, 566 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: serious thriller style TV show. 567 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: Well, I have much higher hopes now than I did before. 568 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Peacemaker season two. I think what this season of Peacemaker 569 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: has shown is that James Gunn has a knack for 570 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: weaving together the disparate parts of his DCEU really interesting ways. 571 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: The connective tissue is fascinating, and judging by Peacemaker season two, 572 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: I would expect that there are going to be very 573 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: definite things that happen in Peacemakers that then go on 574 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: to affect other movies and shows in different ways. And 575 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: I'm now super excited because I think I'm having such 576 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: a fun time with Peacemaker season two, And of course 577 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: I loved Creature Commandos, and I think Superman was amazing. Yeah, 578 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: and so I think James Gunn is on a high 579 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: right now. He's killing it, super excited for this. 580 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: What did we you think? What do you so? Yeah? 581 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm always a bit scared when something is like pitched 582 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: as like a True Detective, even though we all know 583 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: season one True Detective fucking incredible, like unbelievable vibes, I 584 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: still don't necessarily feel like it stuck the landing. But 585 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: I think that's also kind of the point of the 586 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: first season. It's very much about like transience and and 587 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: how we interact with people and obviously incredible costing their 588 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: unintentionally of two half brothers apparently too with the you know, 589 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: Boody Harrison and Matthew mcconaugh. Unbelievable first season, but very 590 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: hard to keep up with the hype of being compared 591 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: to that are the seasons have struggled with that. But 592 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: I will say I think that with everything we've seen 593 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: in James Gunns DCU, we know that he trusts other 594 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: people and trusts his collaborators to do interesting, different stuff. 595 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: And they literally hired the showrunner Chris Mundy, who worked 596 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 2: on Ozark and True Detective, so at least you're going 597 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: to the right people like yeah, And what Chris Mundy 598 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: told Vanity Fair recently was he doesn't feel like Green 599 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: Lantern is part of a larger storytelling plan, and he 600 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 2: felt season one is designed to be its own complete 601 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: season of television that hopefully will become many seasons of TV. 602 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 2: But we know that that doesn't mean that there's not 603 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: going to be crossover. We know that Guy Gardiner will 604 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: be in the show. We know that we will likely 605 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: see the Lanterns coming into the end of Peacemaker season one. Also, 606 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 2: season two. Also interesting here, Deadline basically reported that there's 607 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: not gonna be a season three of Peacemaker, So this 608 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: is what James S. Gunn told them. He said, you're 609 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: gonna find out more about it in episode eight because 610 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily that some of these characters will continue. 611 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: But also it's not exactly Peacemaker season three. I'm not 612 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: ruling it out. You'll see an episode eight and maybe 613 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: you'll find out a little bit more us so that 614 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: I think could also potentially they will end up in 615 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: Earth X, where, by the way, we were right, James 616 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: Gunn said he's calling it Earth two because it's the 617 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: second Earth we've seen, but to him it is Earth X. 618 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: So I think we could see that Eleventh Street kids 619 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: stuck there or in a different universe or something, and 620 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: maybe that's why we don't necessarily get the season three 621 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: we get. But I'm very excited to see where this 622 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: is gonna go, especially because James Gunn's other kind of 623 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: more serious spinoff that he was planning was gonna be 624 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: the Amanda Wallace spinoff focused on Viola Davis's suicide squad Bobs, 625 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: and that has been a slowgo on development. I don't 626 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: doubt people have great ideas for it. But Viola Davis 627 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: is Viola Davis, so you've gotta be bringing her the 628 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 2: big money if she's running a show like that and 629 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: is the star, So I think that's probably why. But yeah, 630 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 2: I mean Jason Ritter, I think one of the most 631 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: underrated actors. He's in there as Billy McConn. We're gonna 632 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 2: have Kelly McDonald as Terry, who's also gonna be How's 633 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: love interest, Nicole Ari Parker as a character called Bernadette. 634 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 2: We are also going to have a new on screen 635 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: Sinestro played by Olric Thompson, and he's going to be 636 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: a rogue former member of the Green Lantern Corps, which 637 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: I think is interesting that they are not posing him 638 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: as directly the antagonist. Maybe this is going to be 639 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 2: part of the bigger threat that we get that will 640 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: see Superman and Lex have to team up in twenty 641 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: twenty seven for Man of Tomorrow, and this is very interesting. 642 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: They say that we'll have Garrett Dillahunt, who was on 643 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: Father Walking Dead, as William con a right self righteous, 644 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: conspiracy minded man who masks his ruthless ambition behind a 645 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: charming and calculated. 646 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Facons like our sounds like our big bad like. 647 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 2: Our big bad guys. And also again I couldn't be 648 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: more excited post Peacemaker episode six, James gunn gets my 649 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: belief and trust. Now, if you write someone's gonna make 650 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: a show about conspiracy theorist or blah blah blah, I said, Oh, 651 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: is this gonna be the right thing? Do they have 652 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: the juice? Can they tell a story that feels important 653 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: and relevant in twenty twenty five? James Gun's just proved 654 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: he can do that with Peacemaker season two, So I'm 655 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: excited for this one. Jason. I think it could also 656 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: be a big crossover hit with the true prestige TV 657 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: crowd if it really does bring that level of true 658 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 2: detective quality and kind of gravitas. 659 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Up next, and finally, Star Trek Starfleet Academy. You mentioned 660 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: like if you're a little sick of the particular magic school, 661 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: and this was one of This is one of those 662 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: projects where I'm like, what took so long? This is 663 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: a great idea. 664 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: I literally pitched no joke. I mean, I think I 665 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: can say this, but I mean I pitched a comic 666 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 2: with this exact title, like many years ago, and that 667 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: is not like they did not take that idea. Stuff 668 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: Late Academy exists, but I feel like it is when 669 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: you love Star Trek and you love this kind of thing, 670 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: you gotta wonder. You're like, why didn't this so long? 671 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: How was this not something paramount made in the CW era. 672 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: Why wasn't this something they made as a competitor to 673 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: the Arrow Verse? I don't know, but you know what, 674 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: good news. Speaking of the CW, this shot in Toronto, 675 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: So you're back in that Canadian TV making space, which 676 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: often hints that maybe you're going to be doing more 677 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: than one season. If you get to make a first 678 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: season in Canada, you might be set up there for 679 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: a while. So they recently wrapped. No premiere date, but 680 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: there is a ten episode first season. Very exciting, also 681 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: not ending up like the Michelle Yo series that got 682 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: kind of truncated into a movie due to production and 683 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: was not necessarily beloved. They also say that it's already 684 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: renewed for season two. Wow, So I am very excited 685 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 2: about this. This is gonna be a very interesting time 686 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: in Star Trek canon too, because it's gonna be set 687 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: in the thirty second century and it will follow the 688 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: first new class of Starfleet cadets in over a century 689 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: as they come of age and train to be officers. 690 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm in you already got me? 691 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: Guys, Ye got me? The trailer looks very slick. It 692 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: looks like a million zillion bucks. Yeah, and again the 693 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: idea is kind of what took so long? 694 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: It's literally, you guys have been sitting on money, like 695 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: this is money. You could have had a kids show, 696 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: a ya show. Yeah, but they know and I will say, 697 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: whoever the casting person for this is understands that this 698 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 2: could be a long running show because you've got Holly 699 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 2: Hunter oscar Winner love Her, you got Paul Giamatti Austin 700 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 2: on the Knee, you got Robert Picado from Voyager the Doctor, 701 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: So you're getting some star trek Cannon. There also Tignataro, 702 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: one of the most popular characters from Discovery, will be 703 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 2: coming back as Jet. And then we're gonna have Tatiana 704 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: maslani Or from Black and Cha Hulk. When will she 705 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 2: finally get her emmy? Guys, maybe this will be the show. 706 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 2: WWE superstar Becky Lynch. I guess she's trying to make 707 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: that crossover. And Mary Wiseman who's also from Discovery, who 708 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: will play Sylvia. It's gonna be really interesting. Also Jonathan 709 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: Frakes Riiker, who he's directed a lot of recent Star 710 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: Trek and Classic Star Trek. He was at Indianapolis Comic 711 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: Com recently and said this is the most massive set 712 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: of any Star Trek ever. There is also a spaceship 713 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: on the show, which I think, well, I hope that's 714 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: not our blip secret. I have been known and I've 715 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: had a bad experience with oversharing, he says, I hope 716 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: that wasn't an overshare. But it's fabulous. The sets of great, 717 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: The scripts are they're funny, which is always helpful on 718 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: Star Trek, and that hints that while this is called 719 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: Starfleet Academy, we can assume that like every other season 720 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: of Star Trek, there will be a new ship and 721 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: a new crew. And I am a fan of modern 722 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: Star Trek. I think they've done some really interesting stuff. 723 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, Jason, again, I mean this is like, I 724 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: feel like this is printing money if you get it right. 725 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like twenty twenty six and in the 726 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: wake of HBO trying to adapt The Magic School Show 727 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: again and everything, I feel like there is a prime 728 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: place for another kid centric show. And again going back 729 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: to Stranger Things, this is what has been the meat 730 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: and potatoes of streaming services. Are these big ya hits, 731 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: shadow and bone stranger things. These things have been at 732 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: the heart of what makes streaming successful and even shows 733 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: like Squid Game or Money Heist that are not necessarily 734 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: in that space are still playing to that young audience. 735 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: So I think if they got it right, this could 736 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 2: be Paramount's most successful new star Trek. 737 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: I completely agree if they get it right. 738 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: If they get it right, well, lots of TV to. 739 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: Look forward to. On the next episodes of X ray Vision, 740 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: we're diving into the staying power of K pop Demon 741 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: Hunters plus Aaron interviews Jenner Andrews and Stephen Kirk, the 742 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: writing team behind Free and this. 743 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 2: Is what it sounds like, this is why it sounds 744 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 2: like my favorite song of this movie. 745 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, bye. X 746 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps Young and Rosie 747 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 748 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 749 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar. 750 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bai Wag. 751 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 752 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kauffman. 753 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Ruba and Chris Lord. Kenny Goodman 754 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: and Heidi are Discord moderator h m hm