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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The

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Speaker 1: Vice President of the United States must resign. You cannot

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Speaker 1: represent this country if, as evidence mounts, that your government

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Speaker 1: simply decided to kill eleven random Venezuelans on a boat

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Speaker 1: in international waters in the Caribbean and then declare they

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Speaker 1: were trendy Argua gang drug runners, even though Ragua drug

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Speaker 1: runners don't travel in groups of more than three, and

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Speaker 1: even if there had been thirty of them, it would

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Speaker 1: have been easy to just stop the boat, board her

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Speaker 1: seize everyone and everything on board, and at least hold

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Speaker 1: nominal trials like we used to do it before the

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Speaker 1: Trump dictatorship. You cannot represent this country in any position.

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Speaker 1: You are permanently disqualified when you respond to this by asserting, quote,

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Speaker 1: killing cartel members who poison our fellow citizens is the

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Speaker 1: highest and best use of our military in an extra

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Speaker 1: legal flex that could and hopefully will get you life

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Speaker 1: in prison from the International Court of Justice. And you

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Speaker 1: especially cannot represent this country. When a Crassenstein brother collaps

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Speaker 1: back on social media, this is called a war crime.

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Speaker 1: And your reply to that, mister Vance, is quote, I

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Speaker 1: don't give a shit what you call it. I have

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Speaker 1: no objection to the profanity so far. That's the nicest

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Speaker 1: thing I thought of about JV. Vance. I object the

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Speaker 1: way Rand Paul objects, and my God, when Rand Paul

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Speaker 1: and I are on the same side of anything, the

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Speaker 1: individual on the other side that is necessarily the scum

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Speaker 1: of the universe, not merely of the earth. Quote. What

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Speaker 1: a despicable and thoughtless sentiment it is to glorify killing

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Speaker 1: someone without a trial. The senator posted, did he ever

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Speaker 1: read to kill a mockingbird? Did he ever wonder what

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Speaker 1: might happen if the accused were immediately executed without trial

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Speaker 1: or representation? It's an odd poll there, to kill a mockingbird.

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Speaker 1: I would have gone with the constitution, or I would

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Speaker 1: have gone with a theoretical that might have meant more

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Speaker 1: a little bit to JV. If some other dictator besides Trump,

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Speaker 1: like say Madurea of Venezuela, were to declare the Trump

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Speaker 1: cabinet a cartel or a terrorist organization, and Vance were

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Speaker 1: traveling on board or on a plane in international waters,

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Speaker 1: Vance would have justified Maduro bombing the boat of the

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Speaker 1: plane or the yacht or whatever and killing all on

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Speaker 1: Ford GJV. You have just invited Maduro to try to

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Speaker 1: blow you up. Good call, brother. Here is also the

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Speaker 1: deeper issue here, Eyeliner. Aside, Vance is obviously unstable. What

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Speaker 1: he wrote is the antithesis of everything America has ever

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Speaker 1: and Dick Cheney used to present or at least fabricate

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Speaker 1: evidence that somebody was a terrorist before killing them or

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Speaker 1: imprisoning them without trial. Vance is not attacking the cartels

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Speaker 1: and the poisoners of citizens. He is not standing up

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Speaker 1: for American drug victims. He is not doing something noble here.

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Speaker 1: He is not making the Democrats look bad. He is

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Speaker 1: glorifying and becoming the cartels and the killers of American citizens.

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Speaker 1: Vance is also so divorced from reality he is also

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Speaker 1: actively campaigning for war and campaigning against war simultaneously. On

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Speaker 1: the same day he decided to repurpose the military into

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Speaker 1: a random death squad in international waters, he also wrote,

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Speaker 1: quote Democrats, let's send your kids to die in Russia. Republicans, actually,

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Speaker 1: let's protect our people from the scum of the earth.

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Speaker 1: Setting aside the idea that the scum of the earth

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Speaker 1: Democrats have ever said anything like that. Vance also seems

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Speaker 1: to think there's a difference where your kids die in

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Speaker 1: that Trump provokes with shit like this illegal bombing a war,

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Speaker 1: which of course lines up neatly with the Trump Vance campaign,

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Speaker 1: which was predicated on ending the Forever Wars. Apparently there

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Speaker 1: them with new ones. Vance must resign. He won't. But

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Speaker 1: if you need any more last bit of evidence that

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Speaker 1: Vance is too mentally damaged to continue to serve in office,

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Speaker 1: the inarguable proof that he could not pass a sanity test. JV.

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Speaker 1: You actually bothered to exchange Twitter jibes with one of

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Speaker 1: the Crassenstein brothers. I mean, you'll be arguing with the

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Speaker 1: colorization bot next. Now, why is all this happening? Why

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Speaker 1: are we ginning up a war with Venezuela? Well, Trumpstein.

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Speaker 1: Every time the fuse to Trump's Jeffrey Epstein cover up

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. If you miss this,

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Speaker 1: it goes by quickly, so listen close. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that what Epstein did as a hoax. It's a terrible,

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Speaker 1: unspeakable evil. He believes in himself when he first heard

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Speaker 1: rum where kicked him out of Mary Lago, he was

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Speaker 1: an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down.

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Speaker 1: The President knows and has great sympathy for the women

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Speaker 1: who suffered these unspeakable arms. It's detestable to him. And

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Speaker 1: I've spoken about this as recently as twenty four hours ago.

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Speaker 1: Trump was an FBI informant on the Epstein What now?

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Speaker 1: Trump narked on Epstein. That's what you're going with, Mikey. Actually,

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Speaker 1: late yesterday, a mere seventy two hours after he said that,

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Speaker 1: Mike Johnson issued a clarification. The Washington Post said he

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Speaker 1: quote backed off his claim that Trump was an FBI

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Speaker 1: informant unquote. To say that is a generous characterization is ungenerous.

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Speaker 1: To say that might have been dictated by Trump to

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos is much more believable. Here is what the

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Speaker 1: Johnson statement is. Quote. The Speaker is reiterating what the

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Speaker 1: victim's attorney said, which is that Donald Trump, who kicked

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Speaker 1: than a decade ago willing to help prosecutors expose Epstein

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Speaker 1: for being a disgusting child predator. Unquote, that's not what

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Speaker 1: Johnson meant. You you heard it. He meant FBI informant.

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Speaker 1: He said, FBI inmant. He didn't reiterate, he reiterated my

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Speaker 1: ass Also quote, the only one more than a decade

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Speaker 1: fourteen or earlier, like two thousand and nine, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six. That still puts it in the crimes were

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Speaker 1: just recently committed window, and it still means Trump was

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Speaker 1: an informant. You heard of non denial denials. This, for

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Speaker 1: many reasons I will now outline, is a non backoff

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Speaker 1: back off. Firstly, actually, this is one of the foundational

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Speaker 1: canons of QAnon that Trump has been secretly fighting the pedophiles,

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Speaker 1: maybe from on the inside, that if he is in

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Speaker 1: the Epstein files, it's because he was ace Ventura or

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Speaker 1: something in disguise. Yes, those children were for America. If

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Speaker 1: that does and push the limits of logic, there is

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Speaker 1: this additional question Trump already a Republican during the prosecution

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Speaker 1: of a Democratic hoax adds up and of course, best

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Speaker 1: of all, there is one small detail Trump overlooked when

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Speaker 1: test marketing bullshit excuses for when Trump's part of the

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Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House QAnon Blip was test marketing

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Speaker 1: an excuse. The small detail is this, if Trump informed

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Speaker 1: on Epstein, Trump had to have witnessed scene, perhaps participated in,

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Speaker 1: what Epstein was doing. And we know what Epstein was doing.

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Speaker 1: He was raping children, trafficking children, destroying children. And Trump

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Speaker 1: never did anything about it other than hide it from

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't stop there. Trump is now writing self

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Speaker 1: incriminating posts Democrats quote knew everything there was to know

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Speaker 1: about Epstein, but now years after his death, they out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere are seeming to show such love and heartfelt

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Speaker 1: of all things, a James O'Keefe video of the Trump

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice Hancho trying to impress his online date

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Speaker 1: matchup by explaining that when push comes to shoved, will

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Speaker 1: simply quote redact every Republican unquote from the Epstein client list,

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Speaker 1: and that yes, Ghlaine Maxwell was moved to Club Fed

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Speaker 1: as part of a deal. This guy's name is Joseph

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Speaker 1: Schnitt of the Office of Enforcement Operations. Schnitt comma as

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Speaker 1: in full of and listen, if you are going to

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Speaker 1: take this country to full dictatorship, could you at least

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Speaker 1: get the people helping you do it Trump, who have

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Speaker 1: stupider names even than Trump to change these stupid names.

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Speaker 1: Who wrote this report? Why it was Deputy Chief of

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Speaker 1: Staff Schnitt, Sir, It's obviously Schnitt writing all over it.

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Speaker 1: It's his uniquely schnitty style. This reeks of Schnitt. Trump

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Speaker 1: narked on Epstein is not the flex Trump thinks it is,

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Speaker 1: and if all the rest of it is irrelevant, remember this.

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Speaker 1: Anything that keeps the Epstein story alive hurts Trump and

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Speaker 1: lets the cement harden further around the fact that Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: as sure as if he were just to take quant

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Speaker 1: at random Secretary of Education. Then there is Trump not

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Speaker 1: merely hamstringing the mainstream media, but taking it over by bullying,

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Speaker 1: an intimidation, and getting now pre censorship. Disney and ABC

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Speaker 1: appearance at the US Tennis Open final here yesterday not

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Speaker 1: it was assumed there was a good chance George was

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Speaker 1: simply reporting something that had actually happened. I was going

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Speaker 1: it down because A, No, the Isis raids aren't funny.

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Speaker 1: They're not at all funny. And be given that Trump

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Speaker 1: has already taken the World Cup soccer trophy to keep

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Speaker 1: for his own, this two was far too close to

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Speaker 1: six love six love five love. The irony in the

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Speaker 1: man trying to hang on to being chairman at any price,

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Speaker 1: including the end of democracy. You'll pay that, not, Bob Iiger.

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Speaker 1: television is so old fashioned and ludite that it was

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Speaker 1: only the second worst capitulation of the week, and the

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Speaker 1: far less dangerous of the two CBS, which has already

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Speaker 1: lost all of its credibility ya a series of ethical

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Speaker 1: collapses regarding and bribes two, Trump took the inevitable next step.

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Speaker 1: Christy Nome, a dangerous, murderous, soulless individual who also acts

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Speaker 1: furious that some of her slanders of the job of

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Speaker 1: our Times, mister Kilmar Abrego Garcia, were edited out of

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Speaker 1: out at three of the dumber members of Trump's cabinet

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Speaker 1: allegedly did the same damn thing, which we never would

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Speaker 1: have known of if you hadn't brought up the stuff

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Speaker 1: about Lisa Cook, the labor clown, Laurie Chavez dreamer who

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Speaker 1: thinks she was elected labor secretary. She's on this list,

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Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary Sean Crash, Davis Duffy, he's on the list.

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Speaker 1: EPA administer Lee the z's for zero Zelden, He's on

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Speaker 1: the list. And Trump stooge Ken Paxton, the eye on

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Speaker 1: the ball. Attorney General of Texas Bill Pulty didn't out

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Speaker 1: them for multiple primary residences, yet reportedly they filled out

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00:31:47,595 --> 00:31:51,315
Speaker 1: these forms the same way. And now guess what it

436
00:31:51,435 --> 00:31:58,355
Speaker 1: has reached its apotheosis, Bill Poulty's father and his stepmother.

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Speaker 1: If you miss this, Reuter's broke it quoting them, Mark

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Speaker 1: and Julie Poulty, the father and stepmother of Bill Poulty,

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Speaker 1: President Trump's appointee as Director of the Federal Housing Finance

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00:32:08,795 --> 00:32:12,515
Speaker 1: Agency since twenty twenty, have claimed so called homestead exemptions

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Speaker 1: for residences in wealthy neighborhoods in both Michigan and Florida.

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00:32:18,195 --> 00:32:21,835
Speaker 1: According to the records, the exemption is meant to give

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Speaker 1: a discount to homeowners on taxes for properties they use

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Speaker 1: as their primary residents one primary not residents. No comment

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Speaker 1: from Bill Poulty as to whether or not he will

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Speaker 1: press Trump to prosecute his own father or Paxton or

447
00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:49,555
Speaker 1: Zelden or Duffy or de Reamur or whoever is next.

448
00:32:49,955 --> 00:32:53,755
Speaker 1: His own father reportedly did this, he's now persecuting other

449
00:32:53,795 --> 00:32:57,995
Speaker 1: people who did this. The basketball scoreboard theory of rationalization

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00:32:58,435 --> 00:33:06,555
Speaker 1: and compensation abides this is how one gets hoist on

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00:33:06,675 --> 00:33:10,595
Speaker 1: one's own petard, Which reminds me that last week I

452
00:33:10,715 --> 00:33:13,755
Speaker 1: compared this phenomenon of attacking others for what you yourself

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00:33:13,795 --> 00:33:16,835
Speaker 1: have done to the baboon Laura Luomer, who threatened to

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Speaker 1: deport the judge who stopped Trump's efforts to traffic children

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Speaker 1: to Guatemala because the judge wasn't born in America, and

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00:33:22,835 --> 00:33:24,915
Speaker 1: we can't have judges who were not born in America.

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00:33:24,995 --> 00:33:27,435
Speaker 1: And the judge sparkles soup Nanin was born in Trinidad,

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Speaker 1: and Lumer thinks we should go back, she should go

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00:33:29,635 --> 00:33:32,115
Speaker 1: back there. And Loomer didn't even bother to google foreign

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Speaker 1: born judges when Trump's concierge, Judge Eileen Cannon, was born

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00:33:37,355 --> 00:33:42,715
Speaker 1: not just abroad, but in Colombia. Callie, aren't we blowing

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00:33:42,835 --> 00:33:47,675
Speaker 1: up drug runners, suspected drug runners, people who we just

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00:33:47,795 --> 00:33:54,235
Speaker 1: claim are drug runners? Isn't Jade v Vance asserting the

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Speaker 1: right to blow up Aileen Cannon? Well, just to button

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Speaker 1: this up, I didn't bring back Judge Cannon just for

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00:34:02,435 --> 00:34:06,435
Speaker 1: the hell of it. News Max sued FI News let

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Speaker 1: them fight on antitrust charges. Now there is an irony

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00:34:10,835 --> 00:34:14,635
Speaker 1: in this. I must note a suit buy Newsmax against

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00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:21,355
Speaker 1: Drupert Murdoch, pivoting on the word trust. Anyway, the case

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00:34:21,395 --> 00:34:24,235
Speaker 1: has now been thrown out on technical reasons. It can

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Speaker 1: be refiled, and it was thrown out by the judge.

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Speaker 1: Judge is Lean Cannon long and the last laugh for you,

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Speaker 1: Pam Blondiem is DEI at the DOJ with the unnaturally

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Speaker 1: deep voice as a team working on some way to

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Speaker 1: make sure transgender people lose their rights to possess firearms.

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Speaker 1: Setting aside the prejudice and what it warns about a

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Speaker 1: Nazi style approach to trans people and trans issues, the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration is going to propose to fighting the gun laws,

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Speaker 1: which naturally means that the NRA has had to come

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Speaker 1: out with a statement defending trans people. As my late

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Speaker 1: friend William Hurt will say for all time in the

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00:35:23,835 --> 00:35:28,995
Speaker 1: movie Classic Body Heat, sometimes the shit comes down so heavy,

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00:35:29,635 --> 00:35:37,235
Speaker 1: I feel like I should wear a hat. Also of

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Speaker 1: interest here, the guy who destroyed CNN may have just

485
00:35:39,715 --> 00:35:45,115
Speaker 1: admitted he's prejudiced against black people. Oops. And if you

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Speaker 1: think I was kidding about CBS News and Stenography, its

487
00:35:48,195 --> 00:35:52,315
Speaker 1: chief Washington analyst got an exclusive with Trump in which

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Speaker 1: Trump made his same transparently nonsensical claim that something would

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Speaker 1: happen soon with Ukraine and Russia. And instead of this

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00:36:00,155 --> 00:36:02,275
Speaker 1: guy asking haven't you already said that one hundred and

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00:36:02,275 --> 00:36:06,075
Speaker 1: eleven times, this guy just let Trump pee on his

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Speaker 1: leg and then he put the story out as exclusive

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Speaker 1: Trump peas on my leg by Robert Costa, CBS News.

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Speaker 1: That's next. This is Countdown, Bill hurt wherever you are?

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Speaker 1: Can I borrow your hat? This is Countdown with Keith

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Speaker 1: Olberman still ahead on this edition of Countdown. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard about this? The all time classic film from nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty two that got butchered by its studio, the Orson

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00:37:03,755 --> 00:37:08,995
Speaker 1: Wells follow up to Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons. Those

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Speaker 1: who saw the original cut claimed it might have been

501
00:37:12,235 --> 00:37:15,555
Speaker 1: better than Citizen Kane. They all said it was fantastic,

502
00:37:15,675 --> 00:37:19,995
Speaker 1: it was indescribable, and the studio cut forty minutes out

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Speaker 1: of it. Apparently the fantastic parts they didn't think would sell,

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00:37:26,475 --> 00:37:31,235
Speaker 1: and they tacked on a happy ending. Now, an AI

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00:37:31,475 --> 00:37:36,035
Speaker 1: company is going to use production still photographs and scripts

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Speaker 1: and other actors dressed like the original characters, and computer

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Speaker 1: generation to change their faces and all the nightmares of

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Speaker 1: AI to try to recreate the original Orson Wells version

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Speaker 1: of The Magnificent Ambersons to see if AI can do

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Speaker 1: it and not put Marvel comic book characters in it

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00:38:02,835 --> 00:38:08,035
Speaker 1: or something. It's a hauling. It opens Pandora's box. It's

512
00:38:08,115 --> 00:38:11,515
Speaker 1: a terrible precedent, and if they make it, this new

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Speaker 1: AI version of the Magnificent Amberson's available to me. I

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Speaker 1: will only watch it eighty one times. I'm conflicted in

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Speaker 1: part because I met the star of the film. Orson

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Speaker 1: Wells does not appear in The Magnificent Ambersons other than

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Speaker 1: a couple of voiceovers. Tim Holt and Dolores Costello and

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Speaker 1: Joseph Cotton are the stars. And I actually met Joseph

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00:38:38,235 --> 00:38:44,875
Speaker 1: Cotton forty years ago this Christmas. And when I met him,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was him. Isn't Citizen Kane And

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Speaker 1: I thought he that, Oh God, it is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite Keith is an idiot stories from my days

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Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Next in things I promised not to tell first,

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00:39:01,555 --> 00:39:04,035
Speaker 1: believe it or not, there's still more new idiots talk

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00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:07,515
Speaker 1: about besides myself. The roundup of the miscreants, morons and

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Speaker 1: Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute two days other worst

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Speaker 1: persons in the world, Lebron's worst, Gunther Eagleman, and those

528
00:39:21,475 --> 00:39:25,715
Speaker 1: like him. Gunther is actually a disgraced ex cop named

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's on the internet. Who cares? He

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00:39:29,675 --> 00:39:35,355
Speaker 1: posts crazed maga Trump fascist bullshit, and he chose, he

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Speaker 1: chose there wasn't some sort of community service involved in this.

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Speaker 1: He chose the name Gunther Eagleman as his new name.

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Speaker 1: I guess because Twerpston Howling Asshole the third was already

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Speaker 1: in use. That's my only conclusion. You would choose Gunther

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Speaker 1: Eagleman to get the gun and the eagle in your name.

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00:40:01,635 --> 00:40:06,875
Speaker 1: Guy has an IQ of of an eagle. Anyway, I

537
00:40:06,995 --> 00:40:08,955
Speaker 1: have no idea if any of this is true, but

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00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:13,075
Speaker 1: to use his approach to the world. This confirms my suspicions,

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00:40:13,795 --> 00:40:18,275
Speaker 1: so I'll report it quote the people who reported it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: my suspicion has always been that if and when we

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Speaker 1: survive all this and jd. Vance is in jail with

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00:40:24,475 --> 00:40:28,635
Speaker 1: Hannity and the Ukrainians have led a coup that kills putin.

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Speaker 1: You just fell out the window, I don't know, excuse

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Speaker 1: the ninetieth floor or whatever. And we find the Rosetta

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Speaker 1: Stone of the last ten twelve years, it will simply

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Speaker 1: be a ledger with a series of bank transfers and

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00:40:44,315 --> 00:40:48,795
Speaker 1: deposited checks in it. It's all about money. It's all money.

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00:40:49,395 --> 00:40:52,715
Speaker 1: It's easy to buy people. It's easier than you think.

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00:40:53,395 --> 00:40:56,155
Speaker 1: Some of them will sell their souls for two hundred dollars.

550
00:40:57,955 --> 00:41:05,915
Speaker 1: A libertarian conservative Twitter account called at ankh aesthetics handle

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00:41:06,315 --> 00:41:10,595
Speaker 1: Esthetica posted the following the other day with examples, but

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00:41:10,795 --> 00:41:13,915
Speaker 1: I'm just going to read the lead one list of

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00:41:14,115 --> 00:41:19,875
Speaker 1: paid propaganda accounts who took money to shill for India. Well,

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00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:23,555
Speaker 1: that adds a new element to this, and the list

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00:41:23,795 --> 00:41:26,595
Speaker 1: is from Esthetica. I have no idea about the validity

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Speaker 1: of any of this. At Gunther Eagleman at Election whiz

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00:41:30,955 --> 00:41:34,395
Speaker 1: at Chuck Colesto. Chuck Colesto is the guy with the

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Speaker 1: picture with the sunglasses perched on top of his head

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Speaker 1: at ianon Patriot at Ryan A. Fournier. Ryan A. Fournier

560
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Speaker 1: is like the teenager with the big duck's ass hairdoo

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Speaker 1: at d C Draino. We know about him. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the guys the Trump administration used with the fake

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Speaker 1: Epstein folder that they bought it, Staples and a couple

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Speaker 1: of other names. I don't defiant l's I've heard of them.

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Speaker 1: Then the account asked if they'd left anybody out. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the answers were interesting at anc lower case hyphen what

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Speaker 1: is that called underscore at anc esthetics ae st h

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Speaker 1: E t I CS If you want to follow up

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Speaker 1: on that, The runner up worser John Malone. You remember John,

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Speaker 1: the guy got lucky enough to put cables in the ground,

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Speaker 1: the fascist who bought and destroyed CNN. John kind of

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00:42:36,315 --> 00:42:39,555
Speaker 1: said the quiet powered out loud on a podcast while

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Speaker 1: insisting that CNN which now puts the liar Scott Jennings

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Speaker 1: on for hours at a stretch and refused to fact

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Speaker 1: check Trump in a presidential debate and hasn't fired the

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00:42:48,395 --> 00:42:51,915
Speaker 1: deplorable Jake Tapper yet and leaves the ninny Dana Bash

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Speaker 1: on the air. I saw her on my block the

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00:42:54,675 --> 00:43:00,195
Speaker 1: other day. She's about three feet tall. Anyway. CNN, which

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Speaker 1: used to have an audience Malone, who effectively owns it

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Speaker 1: through his company, which owns the majority of the David

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00:43:08,715 --> 00:43:14,955
Speaker 1: Zaslav Warner Bros. Discovery outfit. Malone still thinks CNN is

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Speaker 1: biased against Trump, which means, of course, in Maga cuckoo Land,

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Speaker 1: that CNN is not actively lying for Trump twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours a day, which is what this fascist billionaire Malone wants.

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00:43:26,755 --> 00:43:29,115
Speaker 1: It's only lying for Trump like ten hours a day.

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00:43:29,755 --> 00:43:33,595
Speaker 1: But in doing this he made a huge mistake, a

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00:43:33,715 --> 00:43:39,115
Speaker 1: little butch too much information about himself, the old TMI syndrome,

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00:43:39,395 --> 00:43:42,955
Speaker 1: the old, Your sins will eventually come out because you

589
00:43:43,235 --> 00:43:48,515
Speaker 1: can't maintain the energy levels necessary to contain them. John

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Speaker 1: Malone quote, Look, the trouble with bias is it's almost invisible.

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00:43:52,835 --> 00:43:56,155
Speaker 1: And the person who look these are good people, meaning

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Speaker 1: the ones at CNN. These are people who believe they're

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Speaker 1: not biased. Okay, they really believe that. It's just like

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of US white folks say we're not

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00:44:05,155 --> 00:44:14,115
Speaker 1: biased about blacks, okay, but it's it's embedded. Uhh, who's

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Speaker 1: this us? Malone? You're saying, you claim not to be

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00:44:18,395 --> 00:44:21,355
Speaker 1: biased about blacks, but it's embedded in you. Is that

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's just like an awful lot of

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Speaker 1: US white folks say we're not biased about blacks, okay,

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00:44:27,755 --> 00:44:32,155
Speaker 1: but it's it's embedded. I'm shocked that he said this.

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked that an evil, fascist, old man who thinks

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Speaker 1: he owns the world would admit something like this rather

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Speaker 1: than just keep it to himself like his contemporary Trump

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Speaker 1: dries to do. That's what I'm shocked about, not that

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Speaker 1: he would be biased about blacks, but our winner, the worst,

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00:44:53,115 --> 00:44:56,715
Speaker 1: Robert Costa of CBS News. I have never, for one

607
00:44:56,835 --> 00:45:00,715
Speaker 1: minute gotten it about Costa. He basically started at the

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Speaker 1: National Review. He moved to the Washington Post. Then Larry c.

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Speaker 1: Low put him on TV, and suddenly he had a

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Speaker 1: rep and not for having worked at the far right

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00:45:09,835 --> 00:45:13,275
Speaker 1: facts optional National Review. Then he went to CBS News,

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00:45:13,355 --> 00:45:19,195
Speaker 1: and they somehow still think, through several different bosses, they

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Speaker 1: still think he's a reporter of some kind. In fact,

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00:45:21,195 --> 00:45:24,835
Speaker 1: they think he's like a star reporter. Costa and CBS

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00:45:25,075 --> 00:45:28,595
Speaker 1: and again they are in transition, and the cockroaches of

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Speaker 1: the place, like Costa, are doing their best to survive

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Speaker 1: what will be the new right wing world of CBS News,

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00:45:34,275 --> 00:45:36,795
Speaker 1: in which Barry Weiss may be brought in to put

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Speaker 1: the final spikes into CBS. As mentioned earlier, Costa had

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Speaker 1: an exclusive bit of stenography. He talked to Trump. He

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Speaker 1: interviewed well. Interviewed is a little strong. I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to accuse Robert Costa of interviewing anybody, because that might

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Speaker 1: imply that Robert Costa asked Trump questions Trump couldn't answer

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Speaker 1: or lie his way through, or couldn't say things that

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Speaker 1: an ordinary reporter would recognize as simply being bullshit. And

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00:46:10,035 --> 00:46:12,635
Speaker 1: as sure as hell, Robert Costa didn't do any of

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00:46:12,715 --> 00:46:15,355
Speaker 1: those things. He didn't ask any tough questions. He just

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00:46:15,435 --> 00:46:19,915
Speaker 1: wrote stuff down. The Costa headline on this exclusive bit

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Speaker 1: of stenography, Trump commits to pursuing Russia Ukraine piece. They

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Speaker 1: are not ready yet, but quote, something is going to

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Speaker 1: happen unquote like what's the weather for tomorrow, Bob, There'll

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Speaker 1: be weather, Thanks Bob. Now here's sports, here's here's here's

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Speaker 1: what Costa wrote. Quote. President Trump told CBS News on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday that he remains committed to pursuing the peace agreement

635
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Speaker 1: between Russia and Ukraine despite mounting uncertainty over the prospect

636
00:46:51,195 --> 00:46:54,435
Speaker 1: of face to face talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin

637
00:46:54,475 --> 00:46:58,635
Speaker 1: and Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski. And you know this is

638
00:46:58,675 --> 00:47:02,315
Speaker 1: good reporting by Bob Costa because Zelensky spelled with two.

639
00:47:02,395 --> 00:47:06,675
Speaker 1: Why's he got that right. Mister Trump characterized his position

640
00:47:06,715 --> 00:47:09,875
Speaker 1: as both realistic and optimistic, and said he is closely

641
00:47:10,115 --> 00:47:15,315
Speaker 1: monitoring how both leaders are handling this crossroads in the negotiations. Quote.

642
00:47:15,395 --> 00:47:17,995
Speaker 1: I've been watching it, I've been seeing it, and I've

643
00:47:18,035 --> 00:47:21,315
Speaker 1: been talking about it with President Putin and President Zelenski,

644
00:47:21,555 --> 00:47:24,915
Speaker 1: Mister Trump said in a phone interview. Something is going

645
00:47:24,955 --> 00:47:27,755
Speaker 1: to happen, but they are not ready yet. But something

646
00:47:27,875 --> 00:47:30,155
Speaker 1: is going to happen. We are going to get it done.

647
00:47:32,675 --> 00:47:38,595
Speaker 1: That's the whole goddamn story. It's an exclusive bit of stenography.

648
00:47:39,395 --> 00:47:41,675
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Did this cost to follow

649
00:47:41,795 --> 00:47:44,235
Speaker 1: up by asking if it isn't obvious by now that

650
00:47:44,355 --> 00:47:47,955
Speaker 1: Trump has simply been stalling about Ukraine for seven months,

651
00:47:48,795 --> 00:47:52,275
Speaker 1: maybe at Putin's instructions, certainly to Putin's benefit, and that

652
00:47:52,515 --> 00:47:55,995
Speaker 1: Trump's references to two weeks, He's got two weeks or

653
00:47:56,155 --> 00:48:00,075
Speaker 1: fifty days or soon, or something's going to happen. These

654
00:48:00,115 --> 00:48:03,995
Speaker 1: are meaningless lies, and only a right wing propagandist or

655
00:48:04,035 --> 00:48:06,035
Speaker 1: a moron would repeat them as if they had any

656
00:48:06,155 --> 00:48:11,195
Speaker 1: value other than serving to perhaps save the right wing

657
00:48:11,315 --> 00:48:15,195
Speaker 1: propagandist's job at CBS when the new regime comes into power.

658
00:48:16,795 --> 00:48:21,595
Speaker 1: He did not follow up, Oh what a shock. And

659
00:48:21,755 --> 00:48:24,915
Speaker 1: he did not follow up because Robert Costa is not

660
00:48:24,995 --> 00:48:29,075
Speaker 1: a reporter. Trump is stalling about Ukraine, and he's now

661
00:48:29,315 --> 00:48:33,675
Speaker 1: used you Costa to help him stall, to regurgitate this

662
00:48:33,915 --> 00:48:37,315
Speaker 1: same nonsense that something's going to happen soon, when it

663
00:48:37,435 --> 00:48:40,235
Speaker 1: didn't happen the last twenty eight times Trump said something

664
00:48:40,355 --> 00:48:43,115
Speaker 1: was going to happen soon. Because Trump's a liar, and

665
00:48:43,275 --> 00:48:45,635
Speaker 1: some people are willing to say that, and some people

666
00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:47,995
Speaker 1: are not. And then there's that third category of people

667
00:48:47,995 --> 00:48:50,995
Speaker 1: who are too stupid to recognize that it's true. I

668
00:48:51,235 --> 00:48:54,115
Speaker 1: prefer the people who are lying about it to the

669
00:48:54,195 --> 00:48:57,515
Speaker 1: people who don't recognize it. I suspect Costa is too

670
00:48:57,595 --> 00:49:03,955
Speaker 1: stupid to recognize it. He's stalling about Ukraine. That is

671
00:49:04,075 --> 00:49:09,795
Speaker 1: his job that Putin gave him to do. That he

672
00:49:09,915 --> 00:49:14,555
Speaker 1: has help, but not according to Robert Cockroach. I'm sorry,

673
00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:21,955
Speaker 1: Robert Costa. Two day's other worst far sudden and the

674
00:49:22,075 --> 00:50:03,555
Speaker 1: word what'd you think of that one? Stevie? Is that

675
00:50:03,635 --> 00:50:07,635
Speaker 1: a good show? Was I any good? Did you like

676
00:50:07,715 --> 00:50:13,755
Speaker 1: the baseball part? What do you think? You've had enough surgeries?

677
00:50:14,315 --> 00:50:17,795
Speaker 1: Do you need Tommy John surgery? Too? Well? You only

678
00:50:17,835 --> 00:50:24,635
Speaker 1: have the three bad legs. What I know I went

679
00:50:24,715 --> 00:50:28,835
Speaker 1: too long. I shouldn't add lib. I'm much better when

680
00:50:28,835 --> 00:50:32,635
Speaker 1: I pre write everything. Me for notes is well, you

681
00:50:32,715 --> 00:50:35,755
Speaker 1: better have an hour. You're right, and it's that I

682
00:50:35,795 --> 00:50:45,155
Speaker 1: could be talking to you guys. What December nineteen eighty

683
00:50:45,235 --> 00:50:48,635
Speaker 1: five was already weird enough. I was doing well. In LA.

684
00:50:49,195 --> 00:50:51,555
Speaker 1: Being three thousand miles away from everyone and everything I

685
00:50:51,635 --> 00:50:54,675
Speaker 1: knew had been surprisingly helpful, and there was no ramp

686
00:50:54,755 --> 00:50:56,555
Speaker 1: up time for my work. I'd already won a couple

687
00:50:56,595 --> 00:50:59,475
Speaker 1: of best Sportscaster awards, and then the top all news

688
00:50:59,595 --> 00:51:02,115
Speaker 1: radio station was asking me to come over every afternoon

689
00:51:02,155 --> 00:51:05,635
Speaker 1: and split the afternoon drive sportscasting shift with a guy

690
00:51:05,675 --> 00:51:08,675
Speaker 1: who'd been on the air there literally for thirty years,

691
00:51:09,235 --> 00:51:11,035
Speaker 1: who's one of the voices in the background and The

692
00:51:11,275 --> 00:51:17,115
Speaker 1: Godfather Part two? And now somehow my producer, Ron Greulnick,

693
00:51:17,155 --> 00:51:19,555
Speaker 1: and I were headed to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel to

694
00:51:19,635 --> 00:51:24,835
Speaker 1: go interview Mickey Mantle for the average LA sportscast. Here

695
00:51:24,955 --> 00:51:27,995
Speaker 1: there really wasn't much reason to interview Mickey Mantle, which

696
00:51:28,035 --> 00:51:30,515
Speaker 1: is why all of them at the bigger three network

697
00:51:30,595 --> 00:51:33,875
Speaker 1: stations had turned down the offer of a sit down interview.

698
00:51:34,555 --> 00:51:37,075
Speaker 1: But I was a New Yorker and had been three

699
00:51:37,155 --> 00:51:40,795
Speaker 1: months earlier, and thus Mickey Mantle was my idol. And moreover,

700
00:51:40,875 --> 00:51:43,635
Speaker 1: when I became a baseball fan in nineteen sixty seven,

701
00:51:43,715 --> 00:51:48,355
Speaker 1: my folks bought tickets specifically behind first base at Yankee

702
00:51:48,395 --> 00:51:51,715
Speaker 1: Stadium because they had just moved Mantle there from the outfield,

703
00:51:51,755 --> 00:51:54,275
Speaker 1: and as my dad said, when you are an old man,

704
00:51:54,875 --> 00:51:56,955
Speaker 1: you will say the greatest thing you ever saw in

705
00:51:57,075 --> 00:52:00,555
Speaker 1: baseball was Mickey Mantle, so you might as well see

706
00:52:00,555 --> 00:52:02,915
Speaker 1: as much of him as you can. Well, I'm an

707
00:52:02,955 --> 00:52:06,955
Speaker 1: old man now, and my dad was exactly right. Mantell

708
00:52:07,075 --> 00:52:09,755
Speaker 1: was on a tour publicizing some kind of hitting video

709
00:52:09,835 --> 00:52:12,435
Speaker 1: and he would do one exclusive interview with an LA

710
00:52:12,555 --> 00:52:15,315
Speaker 1: station at like exactly five pm on that night in

711
00:52:15,395 --> 00:52:18,315
Speaker 1: December nineteen eighty five, and to get it you had

712
00:52:18,355 --> 00:52:21,275
Speaker 1: to agree to give the video exactly one plug and

713
00:52:21,395 --> 00:52:24,515
Speaker 1: ask him one question about it, but otherwise you could

714
00:52:24,555 --> 00:52:27,595
Speaker 1: ask whatever you wanted. He had fifteen minutes then he

715
00:52:27,715 --> 00:52:32,755
Speaker 1: was going out to dinner. Yeah, yeah, that was it. Dinner.

716
00:52:33,715 --> 00:52:35,835
Speaker 1: So Ron and I pulled up to the Beverly Wilshire

717
00:52:35,835 --> 00:52:38,115
Speaker 1: in his car, and I had never been in, but

718
00:52:38,195 --> 00:52:40,355
Speaker 1: I had walked past it a dozen times and I

719
00:52:40,435 --> 00:52:42,475
Speaker 1: knew there was a new wing and an old wing.

720
00:52:42,595 --> 00:52:44,955
Speaker 1: And as Ron tried to park, I tried to find

721
00:52:44,995 --> 00:52:47,195
Speaker 1: the room where Mantell would be waiting for us, so

722
00:52:47,315 --> 00:52:49,635
Speaker 1: I could be there to meet the camera crew that

723
00:52:49,835 --> 00:52:52,875
Speaker 1: was joining us from some other shoot somewhere and also

724
00:52:52,915 --> 00:52:55,915
Speaker 1: because he was Mickey Mantle. I had met him before,

725
00:52:55,955 --> 00:52:58,475
Speaker 1: I had even interviewed him briefly for CNN, but nothing

726
00:52:58,635 --> 00:53:01,035
Speaker 1: like this, nothing like a sit down interview, just me

727
00:53:01,635 --> 00:53:06,955
Speaker 1: and him. The room number it was something like eight

728
00:53:07,115 --> 00:53:09,755
Speaker 1: ninety seven, could have been five ninety seven, could have

729
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:12,235
Speaker 1: been twelve ninety seven, but it was basically the highest

730
00:53:12,395 --> 00:53:16,715
Speaker 1: number there could be on a given hotel floor. And

731
00:53:16,835 --> 00:53:19,355
Speaker 1: I saw the elevator just pass the registration desk and up.

732
00:53:19,395 --> 00:53:21,075
Speaker 1: I went to the eighth floor, and it was a

733
00:53:21,155 --> 00:53:25,275
Speaker 1: deserted labyrinth, turn after turn and nobody there. And then

734
00:53:25,315 --> 00:53:29,035
Speaker 1: suddenly I turned to corner, and walking towards me was

735
00:53:29,075 --> 00:53:32,715
Speaker 1: the most elegantly dressed older couple I had ever seen

736
00:53:32,795 --> 00:53:38,115
Speaker 1: to that point or since. She was wearing a mink

737
00:53:38,435 --> 00:53:43,115
Speaker 1: stole atop a beautiful gown, and she had a diamond

738
00:53:43,235 --> 00:53:46,995
Speaker 1: necklace big enough to induce cramps. She had a piercing,

739
00:53:47,555 --> 00:53:50,835
Speaker 1: glistening set of deep brown eyes. She looked to be

740
00:53:50,915 --> 00:53:54,075
Speaker 1: in her mid to late fifties, but might have been older.

741
00:53:54,875 --> 00:53:58,675
Speaker 1: He was older, maybe eighty, but with a full head

742
00:53:58,715 --> 00:54:02,675
Speaker 1: of thick and wiry hair. He was tall, thin, extraordinarily

743
00:54:02,835 --> 00:54:06,435
Speaker 1: elegant in a perfect tuxedo. But all of this was overwhelmed,

744
00:54:06,515 --> 00:54:10,355
Speaker 1: almost erase, by one fact that startles me still thirty

745
00:54:10,595 --> 00:54:19,475
Speaker 1: seven years later. This man was wearing a cape. I'm

746
00:54:19,515 --> 00:54:21,795
Speaker 1: pretty confident that I had never seen a man wearing

747
00:54:21,835 --> 00:54:24,715
Speaker 1: a cape before. I know, I have not seen one

748
00:54:25,155 --> 00:54:28,355
Speaker 1: since I have been looking, And yet it looked so

749
00:54:28,715 --> 00:54:32,715
Speaker 1: good on him that I can recall briefly thinking, Keith,

750
00:54:32,755 --> 00:54:36,875
Speaker 1: maybe you should buy a cape. This couple was perfect.

751
00:54:38,315 --> 00:54:40,355
Speaker 1: We seem to be the only people on the floor.

752
00:54:40,915 --> 00:54:43,075
Speaker 1: The hallway wasn't all that wide. I said good evening

753
00:54:43,115 --> 00:54:45,355
Speaker 1: as I passed. She said good evening, and in so

754
00:54:45,515 --> 00:54:48,355
Speaker 1: doing revealed a British accent, and he mumbled good evening

755
00:54:48,795 --> 00:54:51,835
Speaker 1: and revealed what sounded like the lingering minor aftermaths of

756
00:54:51,875 --> 00:54:55,635
Speaker 1: a minor stroke. They walked their way, I walked mine,

757
00:54:56,195 --> 00:54:59,235
Speaker 1: and my focus returned to finding Mickey Mantle in room

758
00:54:59,395 --> 00:55:03,395
Speaker 1: eight ninety seven. The numbers of the rooms I was

759
00:55:03,475 --> 00:55:05,835
Speaker 1: passing were like eight eleve I've been an eight fourteen,

760
00:55:05,915 --> 00:55:07,995
Speaker 1: And after a few more turns of the labyrinth, that

761
00:55:08,115 --> 00:55:10,715
Speaker 1: dawned on me that I must be in the old

762
00:55:10,915 --> 00:55:13,715
Speaker 1: wing of the Beverly Wilshire and the high numbers like

763
00:55:13,795 --> 00:55:15,755
Speaker 1: eight ninety seven must have been in the new wing

764
00:55:15,875 --> 00:55:18,555
Speaker 1: of the Beverly Wilshire. I also noticed that I had

765
00:55:18,595 --> 00:55:21,515
Speaker 1: not passed a doorway or a vestibule or some kind

766
00:55:21,515 --> 00:55:24,515
Speaker 1: of connecting bridge to the new wing, so I had

767
00:55:24,555 --> 00:55:26,635
Speaker 1: better make it back to the elevator and the lobby

768
00:55:26,715 --> 00:55:28,995
Speaker 1: before Ron or the camera crew made the same mistake

769
00:55:29,115 --> 00:55:34,235
Speaker 1: I had. Because Mickey Mantle was waiting my reversed course,

770
00:55:34,755 --> 00:55:37,595
Speaker 1: I began to trot. After three or four more of

771
00:55:37,675 --> 00:55:41,435
Speaker 1: these labyrinthine turns, I found, to my shock that the

772
00:55:41,555 --> 00:55:46,515
Speaker 1: perfectly elegant older couple he was wearing a cape, was

773
00:55:46,555 --> 00:55:50,715
Speaker 1: standing exactly where I had left them. She laughed. She

774
00:55:50,835 --> 00:55:53,195
Speaker 1: mentioned something about the higher numbers being in the new wing,

775
00:55:53,275 --> 00:55:55,515
Speaker 1: and everybody made that mistake. I thanked her, and then

776
00:55:55,595 --> 00:55:58,395
Speaker 1: she said, you're the young man who does the spots

777
00:55:58,435 --> 00:56:01,835
Speaker 1: on the television, aren't you. And I had gotten pretty

778
00:56:01,875 --> 00:56:04,475
Speaker 1: popular pretty fast there, but being recognized was still very

779
00:56:04,475 --> 00:56:07,115
Speaker 1: so uprising and pleasantly so. And I said that, and

780
00:56:07,235 --> 00:56:10,195
Speaker 1: I introduced myself, so nice to meet you. She said,

781
00:56:10,435 --> 00:56:13,555
Speaker 1: I'm Patricia Carlton, and this she pointed to the guy

782
00:56:13,675 --> 00:56:17,555
Speaker 1: in the cape is my husband. He slowly extended a

783
00:56:17,635 --> 00:56:23,395
Speaker 1: hand but shook mine vigorously, and I'm Joseph Carlton. Missus

784
00:56:23,595 --> 00:56:26,195
Speaker 1: Carlton was very excited. You know, Joe and I we

785
00:56:26,315 --> 00:56:29,195
Speaker 1: really are not fans of the sports, but whenever we're

786
00:56:29,235 --> 00:56:30,955
Speaker 1: at home in Palm Springs, we make sure we stay

787
00:56:31,035 --> 00:56:32,875
Speaker 1: up until the end of the ten o'clock news so

788
00:56:32,955 --> 00:56:36,995
Speaker 1: we can watch you. Joe nodded and smiled in the cape.

789
00:56:37,595 --> 00:56:40,315
Speaker 1: You know, so clearly enjoying yourself that we find ourselves

790
00:56:40,395 --> 00:56:44,235
Speaker 1: enjoying it too. That's really quite remarkable. I was genuinely

791
00:56:44,315 --> 00:56:48,195
Speaker 1: touched and remain so I explained my dilemma. I treated

792
00:56:48,235 --> 00:56:50,995
Speaker 1: them as you were supposed to treat viewers, gratefully and solicitously,

793
00:56:51,075 --> 00:56:52,635
Speaker 1: and I asked them if they were going to the lobby,

794
00:56:52,875 --> 00:56:54,555
Speaker 1: and if I might walk with them so I didn't

795
00:56:54,595 --> 00:56:58,675
Speaker 1: get any further lost. We'd be delighted. I must ask you,

796
00:56:59,075 --> 00:57:02,235
Speaker 1: mister Fishman, who does the news on your program? Is

797
00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:06,195
Speaker 1: that his real hair? She saw my shock at the question.

798
00:57:07,155 --> 00:57:09,195
Speaker 1: Joe and I have often won wigs, and we can't

799
00:57:09,235 --> 00:57:11,755
Speaker 1: be certain. That means if it is a wig, it's

800
00:57:11,795 --> 00:57:16,115
Speaker 1: a good one. We reached the elevator bank and I

801
00:57:16,235 --> 00:57:19,475
Speaker 1: pushed down he was walking slowly. He must have had

802
00:57:19,515 --> 00:57:22,715
Speaker 1: a stroke. Still, he was an imposing figure of a man,

803
00:57:22,795 --> 00:57:26,435
Speaker 1: and not just because he was wearing a cape. As

804
00:57:26,515 --> 00:57:28,875
Speaker 1: I steered them away from the subject of our anchorman's

805
00:57:28,915 --> 00:57:31,955
Speaker 1: to pay and talked instead about my Mickey Mantle interview,

806
00:57:31,995 --> 00:57:36,875
Speaker 1: I realized he looked extremely familiar, like I knew him.

807
00:57:37,955 --> 00:57:42,035
Speaker 1: Joseph Carleton kept rolling the name over in my mind.

808
00:57:42,235 --> 00:57:48,835
Speaker 1: And Patricia Carlton, who are they? The elevator light went

809
00:57:48,915 --> 00:57:51,755
Speaker 1: off and a very loud bell sounded. The doors opened,

810
00:57:51,795 --> 00:57:54,355
Speaker 1: and there was my producer, Ron and the two man

811
00:57:54,475 --> 00:57:56,875
Speaker 1: camera crew and the reporter who had been with them

812
00:57:56,875 --> 00:58:00,115
Speaker 1: on the previous story, Sam chu Lynn, who had stayed

813
00:58:00,155 --> 00:58:03,195
Speaker 1: with him because he wanted to meet Mickey Mantle. And

814
00:58:03,315 --> 00:58:06,155
Speaker 1: as I joked to my new friends Joe and Patricia Carlton,

815
00:58:06,475 --> 00:58:10,395
Speaker 1: oh look, here's my camera crew. It's four members made

816
00:58:10,475 --> 00:58:12,835
Speaker 1: no motion to even leave the elevator. They all looked

817
00:58:12,915 --> 00:58:16,275
Speaker 1: dumb struck. Sam Chulin's eyes looked like they were about

818
00:58:16,315 --> 00:58:18,235
Speaker 1: to pop out of his head. I assumed this was

819
00:58:18,315 --> 00:58:24,435
Speaker 1: because my new friend Joe was wearing a cape. Finally

820
00:58:24,595 --> 00:58:26,595
Speaker 1: I got the crew to move. I held the door

821
00:58:26,635 --> 00:58:29,035
Speaker 1: open so Joe and Patricia could get into the elevator.

822
00:58:29,475 --> 00:58:31,515
Speaker 1: I actually said, such a pleasure to meet you, and

823
00:58:31,555 --> 00:58:33,795
Speaker 1: of course, thank you so much for watching Channel five

824
00:58:33,915 --> 00:58:37,195
Speaker 1: News at ten, and she smiled warmly, and he managed

825
00:58:37,235 --> 00:58:40,675
Speaker 1: to quick wave and the doors closed. And only at

826
00:58:40,755 --> 00:58:44,595
Speaker 1: that exact moment did it dawn on me where I

827
00:58:44,755 --> 00:58:50,075
Speaker 1: knew him from the blood now drained from my face

828
00:58:50,195 --> 00:58:52,035
Speaker 1: as I turned to talk to the camera crew and

829
00:58:52,195 --> 00:58:56,355
Speaker 1: Ron and Sam. Uh, you guys knew who those two

830
00:58:56,435 --> 00:59:00,875
Speaker 1: people were, right, Sam laughed at me. Of course he did,

831
00:59:01,075 --> 00:59:04,915
Speaker 1: didn't you? And I sighed, oh my god. And her

832
00:59:04,995 --> 00:59:09,635
Speaker 1: name was Patricia Carleton and that was her husband, Joseph Carleton.

833
00:59:10,275 --> 00:59:12,915
Speaker 1: And she said it that way because she's British, and

834
00:59:13,075 --> 00:59:17,035
Speaker 1: that's how if you're British you would say the name Cotton.

835
00:59:17,755 --> 00:59:22,475
Speaker 1: She's Patricia Cotton, and he's Joseph Cotton, who was in

836
00:59:22,635 --> 00:59:27,075
Speaker 1: Citizen Kane. I remember actually put my hand on the

837
00:59:27,155 --> 00:59:29,195
Speaker 1: law on my face in my other hand. I just

838
00:59:29,355 --> 00:59:33,795
Speaker 1: met Joseph Cotton, and I didn't recognize him. And the cameraman,

839
00:59:33,875 --> 00:59:36,635
Speaker 1: Martin Klancy. You also often said things like this, said

840
00:59:36,795 --> 00:59:40,155
Speaker 1: pretty stupid of you, huh, And I said, you know,

841
00:59:40,395 --> 00:59:43,515
Speaker 1: you have no idea how stupid. I mean, obviously I

842
00:59:43,635 --> 00:59:47,955
Speaker 1: know who Joseph Cotton is. And Sam Chulann said you

843
00:59:48,075 --> 00:59:50,475
Speaker 1: sure about that? I gave him a dirty look and

844
00:59:50,515 --> 00:59:53,795
Speaker 1: I said, no, it's worse than this. In nineteen forty eight,

845
00:59:54,515 --> 00:59:57,915
Speaker 1: the president of the International Joseph Cotton Fan Club was

846
00:59:58,755 --> 01:00:02,555
Speaker 1: my mother. There is a picture of that man with

847
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Speaker 1: my mother from like thirty seven years ago at the

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Speaker 1: Stork Club. They all laughed. Then Sam Chulin said in

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Speaker 1: that photo is he wearing that cape? My gaff did

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Speaker 1: serve to relax me a little for the interview with Mantle.

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Speaker 1: My gaff. When I get over it, i'll let you know.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we all reached room eight ninety seven or

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Speaker 1: whatever it was in the New Wing the Beverly Wilshire

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Speaker 1: and as the crew set up, I managed to tell

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Speaker 1: the story of the Cottons to Mickey Mantle and he said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw them in the lobby a couple hours ago.

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Speaker 1: He's a great actor. I met him in New York,

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Speaker 1: must be thirty years ago. Did you say hi? Oh right,

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Speaker 1: you just told me you didn't recognize him. Mickey Mantle

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Speaker 1: was busting my chops as I said I had met

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Speaker 1: him before even interviewed him before, but this was our

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01:00:58,635 --> 01:01:00,875
Speaker 1: first sit down, and he was in a good mood,

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Speaker 1: even expansive and playful. And at one point he stunned me.

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Speaker 1: I said, I know you only have a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes left, so forgive me if I'm bringing up something

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Speaker 1: that takes more than a couple of minutes. And he interrupted,

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Speaker 1: and he said, take as much time as you need.

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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying us talking. So I asked him about this

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Speaker 1: one subject, how he felt about what he did in

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Speaker 1: his career, considering how injured he was. When he retired.

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Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle was third all time in homers. He hit

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Speaker 1: three hundred and ten times. He played in twelve World

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Speaker 1: Series on one bad knee and one worse knee. Mantle

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01:01:34,435 --> 01:01:38,275
Speaker 1: got very reflective and self critical. We use this sound

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Speaker 1: bite at the end of his obituary that I would

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Speaker 1: do for ESPN a decade later. If I'd known I

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Speaker 1: was going to live so long, he told me, I

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01:01:46,715 --> 01:01:49,195
Speaker 1: would have taken better care of myself and done better.

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01:01:50,635 --> 01:01:54,035
Speaker 1: I said, well, he'd done pretty good. I could have

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01:01:54,275 --> 01:01:59,235
Speaker 1: done better. I thanked him. Then, as the cameraman moved

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01:01:59,275 --> 01:02:01,115
Speaker 1: to get the shots of me nodding and repeating a

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01:02:01,195 --> 01:02:04,515
Speaker 1: question or two. Mickey Mandle said that was really good.

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01:02:05,275 --> 01:02:09,555
Speaker 1: I flushed. I got to ask you something. Can you

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01:02:09,675 --> 01:02:13,555
Speaker 1: give me some pointers? I suddenly had no idea what

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01:02:13,635 --> 01:02:18,475
Speaker 1: the word pointers meant? Pointers? What are pointers? Mantle said

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01:02:18,595 --> 01:02:20,075
Speaker 1: he was going to do some Yankee games the next

887
01:02:20,155 --> 01:02:23,635
Speaker 1: year on cable with Mel Allen. I'm doing interviews after games.

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01:02:23,835 --> 01:02:26,715
Speaker 1: I'm no damn good at interviews. Just now, you were

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01:02:26,755 --> 01:02:30,115
Speaker 1: moving from topics to topics so smooth. How do you

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01:02:30,235 --> 01:02:33,155
Speaker 1: keep all the questions in your head? Now? I laughed,

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01:02:33,635 --> 01:02:35,235
Speaker 1: I didn't keep them in my head. Didn't you see

892
01:02:35,275 --> 01:02:37,595
Speaker 1: my cheat card? And he laughed and he said no,

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01:02:37,675 --> 01:02:38,835
Speaker 1: And I showed it to him. I said, it's just

894
01:02:38,915 --> 01:02:42,395
Speaker 1: a business card with like seven keywords written on the back.

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01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:45,115
Speaker 1: If I think I might freeze up because I'm nervous

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01:02:45,195 --> 01:02:48,515
Speaker 1: because I'm interviewing Mickey Mantle, or I just met Joseph

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01:02:48,555 --> 01:02:50,995
Speaker 1: Cotton and I didn't recognize him, I make one of

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01:02:51,075 --> 01:02:54,075
Speaker 1: these cards. I hide it in the palm of my hand,

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01:02:54,395 --> 01:02:57,075
Speaker 1: and if I get stuck, I could just look down

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01:02:57,155 --> 01:02:58,675
Speaker 1: quickly and see one of the words, and I've got

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01:02:58,715 --> 01:03:01,275
Speaker 1: the question. I've got this card to remind me. Mickey

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01:03:01,315 --> 01:03:06,715
Speaker 1: Mantle's eyes glowed. But wait, he said, we're using these mics,

903
01:03:07,515 --> 01:03:09,395
Speaker 1: and he pointed to the clip on on his shirt,

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01:03:09,955 --> 01:03:11,435
Speaker 1: So you don't have to hold mike. What do you

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01:03:11,515 --> 01:03:13,355
Speaker 1: do if you have to hold the mic like I'll

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01:03:13,435 --> 01:03:15,915
Speaker 1: have to in an interview after a ballgame? What if

907
01:03:15,955 --> 01:03:18,155
Speaker 1: the card would fall out or you have to shake

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01:03:18,195 --> 01:03:21,115
Speaker 1: hands with the player. And I said, well, just write

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01:03:21,155 --> 01:03:24,475
Speaker 1: the words on your hand whichever hand is holding the mic,

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01:03:25,235 --> 01:03:29,195
Speaker 1: like below the thumb. Mickey Mantle looked at me as

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01:03:29,275 --> 01:03:31,875
Speaker 1: if I had just given him the secret of eternal life. Wow,

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01:03:33,435 --> 01:03:35,995
Speaker 1: he said, that's great. I'm going to write this down. Thanks,

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01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:38,675
Speaker 1: and we were packed up, and he actually walked me

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Speaker 1: to the hotel room door and gave me a double

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01:03:40,915 --> 01:03:45,955
Speaker 1: handed handshake. So it had been a big day, even

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01:03:45,995 --> 01:03:49,995
Speaker 1: if I didn't realize it was Joseph Cotton. Mickey Mantle

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01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:54,075
Speaker 1: had asked me for advice about anything. Somehow I had

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01:03:54,115 --> 01:03:56,395
Speaker 1: thought of something to tell him, and he was really

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01:03:56,475 --> 01:04:01,515
Speaker 1: happy about the advice, and of course this provided a punchline.

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01:04:01,515 --> 01:04:04,515
Speaker 1: The following spring, we were in the studios at KTLA,

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Speaker 1: watching on the satellite feed as the Yankees first cable

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01:04:07,355 --> 01:04:09,995
Speaker 1: telecast of the nineteen eighty six season ended, and sure

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01:04:10,075 --> 01:04:11,675
Speaker 1: enough they threw it down to Mickey Mantle on the

924
01:04:11,715 --> 01:04:14,595
Speaker 1: field interviewing some player, and one of our producers said, oh,

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01:04:14,715 --> 01:04:16,595
Speaker 1: let's see if he remembers the lesson you gave him,

926
01:04:16,635 --> 01:04:19,155
Speaker 1: and another one said, here's your student, Mickey Mantle. And

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01:04:19,275 --> 01:04:22,955
Speaker 1: sure enough, after the first answer, Mickey Mantle pauses, and

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01:04:23,115 --> 01:04:25,435
Speaker 1: I know he can't remember what he wanted to ask next,

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01:04:25,675 --> 01:04:27,995
Speaker 1: And sure enough I see him cheat his look down

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Speaker 1: slightly towards the head holding the microphone. And the next

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01:04:30,795 --> 01:04:34,755
Speaker 1: thing I see, he's kind of tilted the microphone sideways

932
01:04:35,395 --> 01:04:37,995
Speaker 1: and he's asking the question, but you can barely hear

933
01:04:38,155 --> 01:04:42,755
Speaker 1: him because the mic is pointing off at a forty

934
01:04:42,835 --> 01:04:47,395
Speaker 1: five degree angle, because he has written his key reminder

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Speaker 1: words not below the thumb on the outside part of

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01:04:52,595 --> 01:04:55,755
Speaker 1: his hand, but on the palm side of his hand,

937
01:04:56,515 --> 01:04:58,515
Speaker 1: and he's had to move the mic out of the

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Speaker 1: way to read the words on the palm of his hand.

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01:05:00,955 --> 01:05:19,715
Speaker 1: And the producer says, Hall, Mickey Mantle hates you. I

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01:05:20,035 --> 01:05:27,275
Speaker 1: swear I heard her say, Carlton. If they released this

941
01:05:27,435 --> 01:05:30,995
Speaker 1: new AI version of The Magnificent Amberson's, I'll watch it.

942
01:05:33,115 --> 01:05:35,675
Speaker 1: Perhaps if you're lucky you're younger than I am and

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01:05:35,915 --> 01:05:39,355
Speaker 1: you missed all this. But forty five years ago we

944
01:05:39,475 --> 01:05:44,515
Speaker 1: were playing this same game, only with colorization. Ted Turner

945
01:05:44,635 --> 01:05:47,355
Speaker 1: wanted to take all the great black and white films

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Speaker 1: and put them into colorization processes and colorization processes. In

947
01:05:53,035 --> 01:05:56,755
Speaker 1: those days, it was like asking you to hold up

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01:05:57,035 --> 01:06:04,835
Speaker 1: a piece of wrapping paper, clear plastic cellophane of one

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Speaker 1: color or another, and just hold it up and look

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Speaker 1: at a black and white film through the cellophane. Oh,

951
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Speaker 1: it's colorized. It looked like crap, And I thought, this

952
01:06:14,995 --> 01:06:19,515
Speaker 1: looks like crap. On the other hand, even then there

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Speaker 1: were people who would not watch black and white movies

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01:06:23,555 --> 01:06:26,595
Speaker 1: and suddenly because they were colorized, however badly, and obviously

955
01:06:26,635 --> 01:06:33,275
Speaker 1: they've gotten better with time. People were watching Casablanca, Citizen Kane,

956
01:06:34,635 --> 01:06:37,635
Speaker 1: and all the other great films. The early Hitchcock films

957
01:06:37,875 --> 01:06:41,155
Speaker 1: say nothing of silent movies that were colorized. They colorized

958
01:06:41,275 --> 01:06:48,315
Speaker 1: greed and put it on Turner on TNT or TBS greed. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Maybe AI will do for the magnificent Ambersons what the

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Speaker 1: colorization of the early black and white classic films did

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Speaker 1: for them a new audience. Even now, the magnificent Ambersons

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Speaker 1: is a magnificent film imagined what it would be like

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01:07:06,835 --> 01:07:08,835
Speaker 1: to see it again. Plus I can then go around

964
01:07:08,875 --> 01:07:12,635
Speaker 1: and post I know the star of that film, Joseph Carlton.

965
01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:14,995
Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. Most of our Countdown music was arranged, produced,

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Speaker 1: and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schhaneil, our

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Speaker 1: musical directors of Countdown. It was produced by Tko Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Our satirical and pithy musical

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Speaker 1: comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust.

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Speaker 1: The Old Woman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch

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Speaker 1: Warren Davis Curtisy of ESPN, Inc. Is the sports music.

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Speaker 1: Other music arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed.

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Speaker 1: My announcer today was my friend Dennis Leary, and everything

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Speaker 1: else was as always my fault. That's countdown for today.

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Speaker 1: Day two hundred and thirty two of America held hostage again,

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Speaker 1: just one two hundred and forty days until the scheduled

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Speaker 1: end of his lane. Duck On lame brained term unless

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Speaker 1: he is removed sooner by Matt and Epstein, or the

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Speaker 1: pavement on his hand, or the actuarial tables, whatever. The

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Speaker 1: next scheduled countdown is Thursday. Till then, I'm Keith Olberman.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown

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