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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, it is July night, the year

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Speaker 2: of our Lord, twenty twenty. This is going to come

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Speaker 2: as a shocker, but read the marquis. Yes, we do

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Speaker 2: indeed have a jam packed show tonight. We of course,

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Speaker 2: are going to lead momentarily with the big and in

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Speaker 2: some cases, I'm told, shocking news out of Big ten

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Speaker 2: country today. We are also going to rank one to fourteen,

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Speaker 2: not one of those halfway jobs we sometimes do, one

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Speaker 2: to fourteen, the head coaching jobs in the Southeastern Conference.

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Speaker 2: Great question that was submitted for the Late Kick Extra

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Speaker 2: podcast that we released yesterday. If you're watching on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: I'm referring to Wednesday, download that one and listen to it.

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Speaker 2: Really good stuff. Yesterday we got thirty two questions in

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Speaker 2: Colin in seventy some odd minutes. We're also going to

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Speaker 2: talk tonight about Jamie Newman. We're continuing our college Football

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Speaker 2: in twenty two any most important series. We have not

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Speaker 2: talked about Jamie Newman and the Georgia quarterback well, at

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Speaker 2: least we think he will be the starting quarterback there.

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Speaker 1: In those terms, so we'll hit that.

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Speaker 2: And then I had another really good question that was

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Speaker 2: submitted earlier today about urban Meyer. Urban Meyer is about

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Speaker 2: a year, a little over a year into his new

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Speaker 2: endeavor in the world of college football media. There were

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Speaker 2: very mixed reviews as to how he'd fare there. And

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Speaker 2: I was part of that mixed review because I knew

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Speaker 2: that on the one hand, he had the knowledge in

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Speaker 2: the agum and obviously to run circles around anyone, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't know necessarily if the passion would be there. Well,

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Speaker 2: those concerns have been alleviated, so I'm going to touch

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Speaker 2: on that to end the show. But man, where would

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Speaker 2: you start if you ran this show tonight?

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Speaker 1: Where else?

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Speaker 2: So if you have a life and you weren't able

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Speaker 2: to just stay connected to Twitter all day and keep

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Speaker 2: hitting refresh, and if you fit that description, God bless you,

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Speaker 2: you have a much better day than we have had

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Speaker 2: so far.

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Speaker 1: Here here's what's happened.

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Speaker 2: Reports came out few hours ago Big ten planning to

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Speaker 2: play conference games. Only you know, I don't like using

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Speaker 2: notes on the show, but I had to write all

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Speaker 2: this down Now. No schedule has been released, so there

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Speaker 2: figures to be a revised schedule.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they play eight games.

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Speaker 2: It seems like they want to play a ten game

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Speaker 2: conference schedule. Don't know when that schedule would be released.

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Speaker 2: Among the perceived casualties here, Ohio State, Oregon gone, Washington,

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Speaker 2: they've already talked about rescheduling that one, gone, Penn State,

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Speaker 2: Virginia Tech gone. I don't need to go down the

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Speaker 2: entire list, you understand now, the SEC in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like and Brandon Marcelo's done some really good

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Speaker 2: reporting on this today, and some other of our twenty

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Speaker 2: have and we'll give them shout outs in due time,

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Speaker 2: But it sounds like the SEC, at least as a league,

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Speaker 1: Going this route.

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Speaker 2: No official announcement yet, and again, Brandon Marcelo, if you

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Speaker 2: I would just follow his Twitter account. Guy's been a

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Speaker 2: step ahead of virtually every curveball that's been thrown at us.

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Speaker 2: To use a different sports analogy here, Chip Brown over

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Speaker 2: In fact, there's not a lot of really good reporting

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Speaker 2: This is going to be very free flowing. The first

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Speaker 2: This is certainly not to take a shot. This is

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Speaker 2: If you need to lean on a pillar in order

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Speaker 2: So this is not necessarily the day that I want

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Speaker 2: perfect case study. You think about the revenue that not

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Speaker 2: programs like Bowling Green, for programs like Louisiana Monroe, but

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Speaker 1: What happens there, I don't know. I have no clue

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Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you one program that I saw a

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Speaker 2: Now here's some of the questions that I have. Some

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Speaker 2: You guys making a move today? No, okay, Scout's honor,

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Speaker 2: No one's making a move today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well that got shattered into a million pieces like a

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, we got an announcement coming today.

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Speaker 2: Our Brandon Marcelo, who has done some great reporting on this,

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Speaker 1: Who would it be? Who would decide that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it is a five alarm cluster

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Speaker 2: right now when you don't even have the commissioners and

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Speaker 2: Just give me a thirty minute heads up, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind we ask this.

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Speaker 2: It was assumed I was doing a hit with Mark

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Speaker 2: will every Power five conference follow suit? I think the

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Speaker 2: general consensus now is it's not a matter of if,

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Speaker 1: But it's not a foregone conclusion quite yet.

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Speaker 2: If they don't, then what happens to out of conference

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Speaker 2: see what we can do. I don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the bridges have been burned yet.

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Speaker 2: Now, as for the Big Tens schedule, and theoretically if

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Speaker 2: release date. It's got to happen sometime. They got to

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Speaker 2: But here's what I was talking to Colin about a

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Speaker 2: If you're in the camp that believes we're gonna play it,

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Speaker 2: but it's definitely gonna be delayed, this also may be irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: But if there's one thing that you can take away

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Speaker 2: Dare I say we'd love for things to improve enough

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Speaker 2: The question was, Josh, if you completely ignored current rosters,

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Speaker 2: is your financial resources. Obviously I got to get yes's

437
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 2: to every request that I make. I have to have

438
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: immaculate facilities, and not only immaculate facilities, but I have

439
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: to have you committed to year over year upgrades. We

440
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: have to assess this stuff year over year because nothing

441
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 2: in this conference, and nothing in this sport stays the same.

442
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: If we're number one right.

443
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: Now and we don't move, will be number six five

444
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: years from now. I have to have access to talent,

445
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: and I have to be able to recruit talent. And

446
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: also this is fourth for a reason. I'd love to

447
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: have an established premier brand and I'd love to have

448
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: a trophy case full of hardware. I'd love to have

449
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: rich tradition. I don't need it, because if I'm one

450
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: of the best in the business, I think I can

451
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: establish our tradition and I think I can fill our

452
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 2: trophy case. I can sell recruits on the concept of

453
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: you're coming here to play in the future, not the past.

454
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: I'm controlling the future. You're control in the future. So

455
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: we'll take care of rewriting the record books here. It's

456
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 2: nice to have that tradition. Like I'm going to talk

457
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 2: about Alabama in just a second, wearing that A on

458
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: the chest.

459
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: That's really important.

460
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: Being able to port to all those crystal footballs and

461
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: those little gold statute footballs, it's really important.

462
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a necessity to win at the

463
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: highest level.

464
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: So with that, I had ted Whip to this graphic

465
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: today and he did it just like that. He had

466
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: already sent it to director Colin before I even knew

467
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: it was finished. So Colin, let's show the people the

468
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: list that I came up with here, and I'm going

469
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: to tell you why I think what I think. I

470
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: think Georgia is the best job in the Southeastern Conference.

471
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: This changed for me not long after Kirby Smart got there.

472
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: It was already near the top, but now to me,

473
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: it's at the top. If you know the history there,

474
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: I've gone over it several times on this show. There

475
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 2: were things I think that Mark Ricked was being told

476
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: no to that Kirby Smart told him he was going

477
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: to need yeses too, that were contingent on his being hired.

478
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: They wanted Alabama results Saturday. They weren't willing to invest

479
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: to an Alabama level Monday through Friday. You rest on Sunday.

480
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: Of course, Well now they do. And so with that

481
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: in mind, you can obviously recruit Georgia. You are the

482
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: University of Georgia. You can easily get into Florida, you

483
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: can easily get into the Carolinas.

484
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: You've got great.

485
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Facilities there, You've got every commitment level you need met,

486
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 2: you got every box you need checked. Georgia is the

487
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: best job in the SEC right now. Alabama's the number

488
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: two job. And the reason that I put them there

489
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: is because what's more competitive right now in the SEC West?

490
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: Even if you are the alpha dog on the block

491
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: in the SEC West. But see if I'm a coach

492
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 2: all of these jobs are vacant. I'm not Nick Saban.

493
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm going there knowing that the benchmark is a couple

494
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: of legends in Bryant and Saban, and so I may

495
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: not be turned off by that.

496
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: But it's a whole lot.

497
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: Nicer to go to a place like Georgia where they

498
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: haven't won a championship in recent memory than one where

499
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: they've won so many they can't even hold them all

500
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: in two hands, And so it can be uncomfortable if

501
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: you don't have the right temperament. Nick Saban's unaffected by

502
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: that stuff. But Nick Saban's also I don't think human,

503
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: and so I'm human, I have a heart, I have feelings.

504
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: At the same time, you got everything I need to

505
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: win there too. So Alabama sitting there number two easily

506
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: the best brand right now in the sec LSU is

507
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: number three. Scott Woodward goes a long way here. You

508
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: get the right athletic director in the building, and then

509
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: you get all those boxes like I'm talking about checked,

510
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: and you look at their recent facility upgrades and the

511
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: commitment level there, but you also look at the internal

512
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: structure in dynamics changing. When Scott Woodward came to LSU,

513
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: which by the way, is home for him, just like

514
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: it's home for ed ors Run. When you brought Scott

515
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: Woodward back in, there was this retooling and rewiring internally,

516
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of which you didn't see, and you'll

517
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: never notice as a fan, but you sure do notice

518
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: the results on the field. A lot of that has

519
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: to do with LSU being number three. There they can

520
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: obviously recruit Louisiana better than anyone. They can very easily

521
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: get into the mobile area Florida, and they can get

522
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: into East Texas. And that's what separates to me as

523
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: a job LSU from Texas A and M, which I

524
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: put it for. So you can make an argument Texas

525
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: A and M should be at number one, like there

526
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: are none of these boxes that I keep talking about

527
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: that AMM doesn't check.

528
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: Maybe the tradition box.

529
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 2: But like I said, you give me the facilities, you

530
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: give me the recruiting base, you give me the finances

531
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: to where I can put to the other top notch staff.

532
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about how many trophies we have in

533
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: the case. I'm worried about how many I'm gonna be

534
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: able to put in there. But here's the difference with

535
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. Texas A and M in Texas

536
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: have not made a concerted effort in the past to

537
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: recruit nationally with good reason. They're parked in a state

538
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: called Texas. So the thinking there is, we got enough

539
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: good talent right in our backyard, we don't need to

540
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: leave the state. Well that's partially true, but you can't

541
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: just have a ton of talent. You have to have

542
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: the right mixture of talent. There may be athletes in Georgia,

543
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: for example, along the defensive line or offensive line that

544
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: maybe aren't in plentiful supply in Texas. But I think

545
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: for a long time these programs didn't venture out of

546
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: the boundary of their own state enough to where it's

547
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: a little more effort for let's say Texas A and

548
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: M to venture into these states than it is for LSU.

549
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: If I'm the right coach, I changed that. But by

550
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: fractions of points, that's what put Texas A and M

551
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: behind LSU. There is a limitless financial pool right now

552
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: always will be at Texas A and M. They're number

553
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: one by ten miles on this list. When it comes

554
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: to that beautiful stadium, beautiful facilities, They don't lack for

555
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: anything there. They don't lack for anything whatsoever. Number five

556
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: was Florida. I was talking to Bud Elliott about two

557
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: programs on this list today. One of them was Florida.

558
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the other one was in the second.

559
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: The reason I put Florida down at five, you certainly

560
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: are parked in one of per capita, of the most

561
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: talent rich states in America. Pretty Much everyone in this

562
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 2: list at the top has that in common. So recruiting

563
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: is not an issue there, even if you don't have

564
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: a staff that's capitalizing on that to a top three

565
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: per year degree right now, the capabilities there. If I'm

566
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: an elite recruiter, I'm going to knock it out of

567
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: the park at Florida.

568
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: See Urban Meyer years past, for example.

569
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: The only reason that I druged my feet a little

570
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: bit on Florida is because up until recently, Florida fans

571
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: know all about this. Up until recently, with the change

572
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: of athletic director from Fully to Strickland, there was some

573
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: dragging of the feet on facility enhancements there. Now they

574
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: finally got the yess and they finally got it done,

575
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: and it could be that three or four years from now,

576
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: once I can see things progress year over year, it

577
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: may be that I say, all right, well, if Florida

578
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: is in tune in this category, in this category, I

579
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: could justify putting them as high as number three, number two,

580
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: But right now I kept them at number five. There

581
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: only because they're playing catch up a little bit with

582
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: things that they should have had taken care of already.

583
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I put Auburn at number six. Think about the dynamic.

584
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: I view this as the toughest job in major college

585
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: football right now. When you measure expectation to reality. The

586
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: investment's not an issue. Auburn invests to a plenty high

587
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: enough degree to win at the highest level. It's the

588
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: expectation relative to the reality. Think about what history says

589
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Auburn should be. And again I'm talking about taking the

590
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: jobs today. Today, You've got possibly the greatest dynasty in

591
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: the history of the sport in your own state at

592
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: your arch rival in Alabama. Georgia is on the precipice

593
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: of being a national championship team. LSU just one a

594
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: national championship. What does history say Auburn should be right now?

595
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: History says Auburn should be a total afterthought, they're not.

596
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: I think that's one thing that makes Gus Malson very underrated.

597
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: But number two, that's why it bumps the Auburn job

598
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: all the way down to six right now. I mean,

599
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: I can go places and I can get paid equal

600
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: to or more than I get paid at Auburn and

601
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: not have to deal with those shark infested waters.

602
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: That is brutal, just ridiculous.

603
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: And I don't know who in the world you take

604
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: and put there that's doing a better job, that would

605
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: take the job and do a better job annually than

606
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: Gus Malson.

607
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: So that's the current set of affairs there and the.

608
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Seventh team, and this is the last team in the

609
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: first cluster is Tennessee. Tennessee has got to reestablish their brand.

610
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: I told you branding is the fourth most important bit

611
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: of criteria for me. But when you stay irrelevant for

612
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: an entire generation on the national scene, you've got some

613
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: reestablishing to do. That's the chore in front of Jeremy

614
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Pruitt right now. You see Tennessee's logo there, and then

615
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: you see that Georgia logo. If I'm a recruit in

616
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: high school, I know I can go to Georgia and compete.

617
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: I've seen them do it in my lifetime. Obviously, I've

618
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: seen Bama do it, LSU do it. I've seen A and.

619
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: M not so much do it.

620
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: But I also know what A and M has over there,

621
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: and I know it's in limitless supply. I have seen

622
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: Florida do it in my lifetime. I hadn't seen Tennessee

623
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: do it. And I haven't seen Tennessee be competitive a

624
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: lot now. Having said that, they obviously have the investment,

625
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: they have the buy in, they have nice facilities. None

626
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: of these places in this top cluster hurting for facilities.

627
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: But you got to convince me to come there, or

628
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: if I'm a coach, I got to convince you to

629
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: come there over these programs.

630
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: And that's a tough sell right now.

631
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Establishing and re establishing that brand that used to be

632
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: for Tennessee, that's key involting them up the.

633
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Ladder a few rungs right now.

634
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Now that's the end of the first cluster, and the

635
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: first cluster is essentially teams capable of winning a national

636
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: championship if things went right, like you may laugh at

637
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Tennessee and the concept of them winning a championship.

638
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: No, not this year.

639
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if things were right, if you had the

640
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: right guy in charge of that program for half a decade,

641
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee's in contention, as is Auburn, Florida A and Mlsubama

642
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: and Georgia from eight to fourteen, they're not probably right

643
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: now current state of affairs. Everything goes right eight to fourteen,

644
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: you're not winning a championship.

645
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: But think about Kentucky. So this is the one I

646
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: was talking about with.

647
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: Bud today on the podcast, which was only twenty four

648
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: hours ago. I put Kentucky down at like twelve or thirteen.

649
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: But Bud brings me a different perspective today. He was

650
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: talking about the cushy nature of the job that Mark

651
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: Stoops has, And they've done some writing on this over

652
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: at Banner Society and it's really eye opening. You know,

653
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: you're making just to give you an idea, Stoops. Mark

654
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Stoops right now is making about as much as Nick

655
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Saban made when he was hired at Alabama originally. He's

656
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: making between four and a half and five million a

657
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: year for the expectation of winning oh about seven games

658
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: a year, win seven or eight games a year. There's

659
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: an extension clause in his contract if he wins seven

660
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: per year. But what you're totally alleviated of is the

661
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: expectation level.

662
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it.

663
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Win seven when eighty year take us to a decent

664
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: bowl game, We're happy. You get to live in Lexington,

665
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: Kentucky not a bad place to live. So, all things considered,

666
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: if you're not in the championship contention cluster, which I

667
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: don't think eight through fourteen, is is there a better job?

668
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: I was convinced of this. I changed my mind about

669
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: that today. So Kentucky at eight and South Carolina at nine.

670
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: You know, South Carolina is kind of in Auburn's position,

671
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: but from an investment level, from a resource level, probably

672
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: a notch below Auburn. But when I say they're in

673
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: their position, the expectation there is compete against Georgia, and

674
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: compete against Florida, and compete against Tennessee. The difference is,

675
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: whereas at Auburn, you know, the resource level by default

676
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: and by necessity, in the West, it's probably up a

677
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: couple of notches. You know, even with recent additions at

678
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: South Carolina, it's not on par with what they have

679
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: at Georgia, obviously, and so it's tough last year, notwithstanding,

680
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: tough to compete on a year in, year out basis.

681
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: And from ten to fourteen, I didn't even take a

682
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: stand on the Mississippi schools. I know it said ten

683
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: and eleven, they're interchangeable. I didn't even rank one over

684
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: the other. And Missouri, Arkansas and Vanderbilt rounded out twelve

685
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: through fourteen. But you guys, obviously there will be a

686
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: lot of consternation and debate about that. You let me

687
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: know in the comment section what you think. But here's

688
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: what I ask. I don't mind you telling me I'm wrong,

689
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: and it does a matter of opinion. I don't know

690
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: that you could be wrong or right. I don't mind that.

691
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: Give me logic based counterpoints. I don't need to hear

692
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: you're an idiot? Why, oh you are? And then that's

693
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: it and you're gone. You tell me I'm wrong, all

694
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: you want to let me know why, and let me

695
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: know what you think. That's what a comment section is for.

696
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: That's why God invented them. So let's move on here,

697
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: and let's talk about actually staying in Athens, Georgia for

698
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: just a second. We have talked about a number of players.

699
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: I probably can't name them all off the top of

700
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: my head. I know we've talked about coordinator like Kirk

701
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Soraka at Penn State. We've talked about Josh Gattis at Michigan.

702
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: We've talked about Sam Howell at North Carolina, Kyle Trask

703
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: at Florida. What we're talking about, basically is the most

704
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: important people figures, if you will, players or otherwise in

705
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: college football in twenty twenty. And we haven't talked about

706
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: Jamie Newman quite yet. Figured why not, let's talk about

707
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: Jamie Newman tonight? Wake Forest quarterback. Nope, not anymore. That's

708
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: Georgia's quarterback this year. There is so much talk that

709
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: has happened since the time this kid transferred from Wake

710
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: Forest to Georgia.

711
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Think about the talk.

712
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: And you didn't have a spring, so all you had

713
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: to do was talk. You didn't have any snaps to

714
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: look at. And then you've had the COVID era, and

715
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: then you still really haven't had fall practice start at all.

716
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: You haven't obviously had a game to watch, and so

717
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: you've had all this talk and everyone has offered every

718
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: form of opinion they possibly could on Jamie Newman, and

719
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: there's been nothing to go on aside from wake Forest tape.

720
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: So what do we expect from him? Like there's been

721
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: this big talk about a dynamic shift offensive shift in

722
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: philosophy with Kirby Smart and now they've got the trigger

723
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: man that they need at quarterback and they've got the

724
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator they need in Todd Munkin. So yet could

725
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: mean all that, It could mean there's a transition in

726
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: store in Athens this year.

727
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: But you know the first thing that I had.

728
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Someone mentioned to me when he transferred, he being Jamie Newman,

729
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: when he transferred to Georgia, one of the first things

730
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: out of a guy that's close to Georgia's mouth that

731
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: I trust was, you know what we're going to benefit

732
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: from is that the return on that kid is he's

733
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: a phenomenal leader, really good locker room guy. Field general

734
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: was the phrase the term that was used, and that's

735
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: important because Georgia lost quite a few of those guys,

736
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: those not glue guys, but I mean the field general

737
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: types alpha types, the ones that everyone's attention tends to

738
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: gravitate towards. You got to have them, you gotta have them,

739
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: and Georgia had some of them last year. That are

740
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: not there this year, and it's very important. You don't

741
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: have to have been on campus more than ten minutes.

742
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: If you've got that, you immediately went over the locker room,

743
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: you went over the roster, and ultimately they see you

744
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: shoulder that load in game time action and everyone follows you.

745
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: You got to have those guys though, they're very excited

746
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: thinking Jamie Newman is that, but you're excited because you

747
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: want to know what kind of player he is. And

748
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: the rest of the country does too, because, let me

749
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: tell you what the rest of the.

750
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Country doesn't want to see.

751
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: The rest of the country is totally fine with Georgia

752
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: being dominant defensively. They're totally fine with Georgia being able

753
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: to run the ball. They're totally fine with all that

754
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: because they believe if they are Alabama, if they're Clemson,

755
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: if they're Ohio State, if they're LSU like last year,

756
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: they're confident that they could drown you. Offensively, you can't

757
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: keep up, So you do your bully ball over there.

758
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: You build that defense, and you build that running game,

759
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: you build that offensive line will be okay, we'll stretch

760
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: you vertically, we'll tort you.

761
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: You won't be able to keep up with us.

762
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: But what they don't want to see is Georgia look

763
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: across the aisle and take a page out of their playbook.

764
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: They want to see Georgia modernize offensively.

765
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: No one wants to see that because that means you

766
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: potentially could have another Tier one program. I already think

767
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: they're there. A lot of you don't because they haven't

768
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: won a national championship. But I think we can all

769
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: agree if George's offense is all of a sudden able

770
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: to kick it up a couple of notches with the

771
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: defense they already have established, yeah, they've probably arrived in

772
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: that Tier one category. What can Jamie Newman do to

773
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: that degree? Well, he can extend plays. I think heard

774
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: that a million and one times with Joe Burrow last year.

775
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: He is a guy that very much allows you to

776
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: do that. He is a threat with his legs, the

777
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: likes of which you haven't fully been able to utilize

778
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 2: at Georgia in quite a while.

779
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: He has got a plus.

780
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: To very good arm plenty good enough for you to

781
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: stretch the field on teams vertically. Not very many teams

782
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: have feared George's ability to go over the top. Now

783
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: that may partly be because of their lack of ability

784
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: to do it at quarterback. It also may be because

785
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: they are not stockpiled with a bunch of future first

786
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: round NFL talents at wide receiver.

787
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what it does allow them to do.

788
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: Guys like George Pickens, Don Blaylock, guys that are upgrades

789
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: from a star ranking perspective at the position of wide

790
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: receiver they've gotten on campus recently. What it allows them

791
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: to do is maximize their potential. See a guy like

792
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Jamie Newman at quarterback. If he is what you expect

793
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: that he can be, he elevates the play of guys

794
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: like that, and what it looks to you is happening.

795
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: What it looks like to you is happening, is he

796
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: is making receivers Guys you didn't know about last year,

797
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you know about this year and

798
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: you say, where'd they come from?

799
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: Well, they were there already.

800
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: It's just that you've got a dynamic presence at quarterback

801
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: now that allows them to take full advantage. Now at

802
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator position, Todd Munkin has everything he could

803
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: ever ask for. That guy comes in to Georgia and

804
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: the first guy that he's probably ever gonna go to

805
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: battle with at his quarterback position. Has all the physical attributes,

806
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: he's got all the mental attributes, he's got leadership qualities.

807
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: You've got a dominant defense to lean on. Can you

808
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: peak at the right time? Know how in the world

809
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: the schedule is going to end up looking you know?

810
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: Right now it would have Georgia playing a couple out

811
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: of conference games and then they go to Tuscaloosa in

812
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: week three. If everything gets up ended, I don't know,

813
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 2: maybe we hit the reset button. But if the meat

814
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: of your schedule is middle to back half, how soon

815
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: does it take? How long does it take for you

816
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: to peak? You lost spring, but a lot of people did.

817
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: You're trying to install on the fly, A lot of

818
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: people are. It sure does help to have that defense.

819
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: But if you turn on your TV in the middle

820
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: of the season and Jamie Newman all of a sudden

821
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: is making you say wow, like Georgia. I mean, I've

822
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: always taken them serious defensively, but Georgia looks like a

823
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: pinball machine offensively. All of a sudden, it would be

824
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: like you were in the twilight zone. Including for Georgia fans,

825
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what else it would do if

826
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: it was getting your attention, then it certainly is getting

827
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: the attention of wide receivers from Miami to Los Angeles

828
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: and everywhere in between. And it's getting the attention of

829
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: guys that maybe you just narrowly lose out on. Right now,

830
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: it makes that place a destination you had JT. Daniels

831
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 2: come in. Eligibility is still not really decided, but if

832
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: he's the guy following Jamie Newman, you can already tell

833
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: people we're set at quarterback this year and in the

834
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: coming years, we're set. We got Brock Vandergriff who just

835
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: shined at a Leite eleven, a five star prospect, coming in,

836
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: and we now had evidence like LSU just compiled last year.

837
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: Georgia could be the next version of LSU in that

838
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: they can go into high schools and say, hey, we

839
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: throw the ball. Now we're modernized. Now you can maximize

840
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: your potential here. You're not just coming here to block,

841
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: You're coming here to catch X number of balls a year.

842
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Look at this game and this game, in this game,

843
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: in this game where we used a guy that's equal

844
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: to or maybe lesser than you athletically and we used

845
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: him in such a versatile manner. If we did it

846
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: with him, we just scratched the surface. Imagine what we

847
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: could do with you. The rest of college football doesn't

848
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: really want to see that, because the rest of college

849
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: football is fine with how many Tier one programs you

850
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: already have. You certainly don't feel like adding another one

851
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: should have you pretty excited in Athens, Georgia. All right,

852
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: let's go to Q and A right quick, and we

853
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: have got a question that it kind of caught my eye.

854
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 2: I had a number of them I was looking at today.

855
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Normally I'll just push a majority of the questions I

856
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: had to the next Late Kick Extra podcast, But I

857
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: thought this one, especially in light of some analysis I've

858
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: seen the last forty eight hours, I thought this one

859
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: bore some attention tonight. So it was from Daniel and

860
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: it was in the Twitter DM. You can follow me

861
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: on Twitter at Late Kick Josh. He said, Josh, what

862
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Urban Meyer and how he is

863
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: handling his new role from the sideline to going into.

864
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: The media world. I think he's handled it very well.

865
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if a lot of you have seen it,

866
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: and it's not exactly my forte to give a ton

867
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Speaker 2: of recognition to competing media companies, but I'll do it anyway.

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Speaker 2: He's with Fox Sports, and he's done such a great

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Speaker 2: job there, and I had questions early on. And I

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00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: had questions not in the department of his acumen, or

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Speaker 2: his football knowledge, or his ability to be articulate on air,

872
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Speaker 2: none of that. What I wondered, at his very core

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Speaker 2: or obviously he's a football coach, and at his very core,

874
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Speaker 2: there is this fire. It's called competitiveness. Few people in

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Speaker 2: the arena of sport have it to the degree that

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Speaker 2: a guy like urban Meyer has. And I wondered, I

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Speaker 2: don't care what level of this industry you put him at.

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Speaker 2: It could be at the very highest levels. He could

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00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: have the biggest paycheck. Are you putting something on his

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: plate that quenches that fire? And if you're not, and

881
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, no one can. It's impossible.

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Speaker 1: If you're not.

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Speaker 2: Does he just go through this thing on autopilot? And

884
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: to this point he has not done that. He instantly

885
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: became one of the very best in the business because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, his knowledge circles everyone else by ten miles.

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Speaker 2: But he also has a one hundred percent relevancy rating.

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Speaker 2: Think about this for a second. If you were trying

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Speaker 2: to hire someone in this industry, the goal is to

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Speaker 2: hire someone that is obviously a good worker, good work ethic,

891
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: good knowledge, product knowledge, But you want to hire someone

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Speaker 2: who's relevant. And Meyer has one hundred relevancy. What I

893
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: mean by that is everyone cares about him one way

894
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: or the other. You either love him or you hate him.

895
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Speaker 2: But I can guarantee you this. If you're an Arkansas

896
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Speaker 2: football fan and you look on your iPhone, you're Android

897
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: and a notification pops up and it says urban Meyer

898
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: sounds off on Arkansas football. Urban Meyer predicts record for

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Speaker 2: Kentucky football this year. Urban Meyer gives his analysis on

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Speaker 2: North Carolina football. Love him or hate him, you are

901
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: clicking on him. So that makes him one of the

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Speaker 2: best hires in the sport. Everybody cares about him. But

903
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: also he's engaged, and when he's engaged, there are few

904
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Speaker 2: watches and few listens better in this sport than him.

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't been hesitant to speak his mind, which

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Speaker 2: is very refreshing. So I'll tell you what I've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of former coaches do a lot of former

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00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: coaches who get hired to put on a suit and

909
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: sit at a desk. What they do is they come

910
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: in and try to be what they think they're supposed

911
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: to be on TV, which is so antithetical to what

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00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: you're being hired for. With all due respect, I may

913
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Speaker 2: be cutting my own legs out from under me here.

914
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Speaker 2: People who can sit in front of a microphone and

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: talk or a diamond dozen. Guys who possess that knowledge

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Speaker 2: and can articulate it are very few and far between.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is a lot of guys come from

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Speaker 2: that world into this world and they try and act

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00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: like everyone else in this world. I'm not hiring you

920
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: to be a robot and look like everyone else in

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Speaker 2: this world. I want you to be you. I'm hiring

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Speaker 2: you to be you. Urban Meyer has been authentically himself

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Speaker 2: and he's been very, very good. And you know, he's

924
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Speaker 2: a guy who I think may blaze a trail and

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Speaker 2: maybe cast a new vision for what a former coach

926
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Speaker 2: is supposed to be in this arena. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he's done coaching football. I know that he insists

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Speaker 2: that he is. I don't know that, But what I

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Speaker 2: will say is in the meantime, I'm really enjoying what

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Speaker 2: he is offering, and I hope that we continue to

931
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Speaker 1: We had a good crowd tonight. I mean it's the

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Speaker 1: middle of July.

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Speaker 2: We've had no football for it seems like a decade,

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to you again this Sunday night. Take

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Speaker 1: God bless