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Speaker 3: It is caught inside the five, driving for the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Jim Patrick, Welcome to Week sixteen of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: I am Tim Twentyman. This is the twenty in the

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Speaker 2: Huddle podcast, and we usually like to start out with

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Speaker 2: kind of our three key segments, looking forward to to

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Speaker 2: Detroit's next game in Chicago and joining me via zoom

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Speaker 2: on her day off. Very generous of Jennifer Hammond to

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Speaker 2: join me Fox do. Look, she's been at Fox two

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven years. She's been covering the Lion since

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four. She does the postgame show on ninety

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Speaker 2: seven point one after every Lions game. Jen, thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining the twenty the Huddle Podcast. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: I'm super happy to be here. Tim.

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Speaker 2: Thanks well Week sixteen and you know, obviously tough loss

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Speaker 2: for you know, Detroit last week against Buffalo. You listen

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Speaker 2: to outside of the building, it almost seems like the

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Speaker 2: sky's falling. Jen, that the seasons they should cancel it.

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Speaker 2: Good luck try again next year. Now, Look, I know

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Speaker 2: they're dealing with injuries, but they've dealt with these injuries

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Speaker 2: all year, Jen, some of them have been big, and

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Speaker 2: they've just kind of found a way. You listened to

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell talk this week and he said, look, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna find a way again. Maybe it's you know, playing

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Speaker 2: a little bit different. Try to maybe talk Lions fans

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Speaker 2: off the ledge here. You know, with three games remaining,

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Speaker 2: they still are the number one seed.

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Speaker 5: I started that job of talking them off the ledge

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Speaker 5: and I had a feeling. I knew that it would

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Speaker 5: start with the rage, right the seven stages of brief

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Speaker 5: for Lions fans. Rage was one of them that came

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Speaker 5: early about Dan going for that on sides with twelve

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Speaker 5: minutes to go, we'll push that aside, and now it's

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Speaker 5: gone to actually remorse and sorrow and deep fear. Everybody

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Speaker 5: just thinks that the season is over. To your point,

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Speaker 5: and I think that it was Jared Goff had actually

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Speaker 5: everybody saying that the.

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Speaker 4: Sky is falling. It is not.

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Speaker 5: And even a few weeks back, you'll go, I think

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Speaker 5: it was after the game when Angelone got hurt. Remember

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Speaker 5: that Dan Campbell stood up at the podium either on

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Speaker 5: that Sunday or that Monday, and he said, things are

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Speaker 5: gonna get worse. This isn't the worst thing that's gonna

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Speaker 5: of foreshadowing going on there with both of those guys.

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Speaker 5: And those are your two leaders. And when you hear

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Speaker 5: those guys say there's no doom in gloom, that is

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Speaker 5: the message that's being crafted curated in that building.

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Speaker 4: And you see it, you know what you hear it.

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Speaker 4: And Dan on.

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Speaker 5: Ninety seven won the ticket this week on Tuesday. He

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Speaker 5: was brilliant and he's a great motivator. And not only

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Speaker 5: does he just say those words, I've heard a lot

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Speaker 5: of people say, oh, those are just words. That's not

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Speaker 4: But what those.

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Speaker 5: Words do is they let you know that he's not worried,

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Speaker 5: and he can't be worried and he can't spend his time.

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Speaker 5: What they're gonna do is they're gonna plugu play and

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Speaker 5: push and they still have a golden opportunity in front

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Speaker 5: of them with three very winnable games. And I say

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Speaker 5: very winnable because that Minnesota game is on their home field,

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Speaker 5: San Francisco against a team that is broken and has

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Speaker 5: not much to play for. So I'm not worried. I mean,

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Speaker 5: certainly they've got to play their best, but I think

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Speaker 2: Right, let's ark, Jenn, Let's get into some of these

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Speaker 2: But Jamiir Gibbs is a very capable running back. I

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Speaker 3: Load a concern level for you at all?

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Speaker 2: Are you as as confident as I am that that

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Speaker 5: My concern level for this injury, obviously when it first happened,

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Speaker 4: It has gone down to a two. And I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you why. Tim Something we've seen from Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 5: Originally it felt like one was sizzle one with steak, right,

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Speaker 5: I know that people get all ruffled when you compare

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Speaker 5: six yards per carry clip. Certainly, the Bills game was tough.

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Speaker 5: They had a bad day, but a lot of that, too,

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Speaker 5: what do they do? They come back vengeance and I

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Speaker 2: And Jen This isn't the first time this has happened

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Speaker 2: to Lions. To you look at last year, Montgomery missed

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Speaker 2: So it's not like this is something we haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't done. He's shown he can carry the load.

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Speaker 2: here and then you know whatever. You know, they've gotten

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Speaker 4: You know what, it.

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Speaker 5: Seems like everything that Brad Holmes has touched, for the

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Speaker 5: I don't know that he'll get more reps than Reynolds

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Speaker 5: interesting to see both guys get an opportunity. And the

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Speaker 3: I think we're on the same page there. I'm actually

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Speaker 3: looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I think they have a chance maybe to be a

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Speaker 5: I'm an eternal optimist, so you're never going to get

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love it, all right, Well, let's turn over

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Speaker 3: Jen and obviously the injuries are mounting up.

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Speaker 2: You lose Ali McNeil, you lose Carlton Davis, you lose

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Speaker 2: Khalil Dorsey this week, three more guys that you know

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Speaker 2: guys are gonna get another opportunity. Dan talked about it

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Speaker 3: Still talent there.

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Speaker 2: Jen, you still got DJ Reader, you still got Enzriique,

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Speaker 3: At this point, really isn't a rookie. You've got some

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Speaker 2: Is there someone currently on that defensive side of the

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Speaker 2: do they really need to to kind of take that

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Speaker 5: All right, I've got two names for you, and I

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Speaker 5: wonder if they're gonna be the same two I have.

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Speaker 5: We'll see DJ Reader. DJ Reader for sure is one.

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Speaker 5: He has got to step up in the middle, and

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Speaker 4: Bit more chaotic.

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Speaker 5: And also it's going to give another week for guys

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Speaker 2: Handle your own business, right, Yep, it's as easy as that.

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Hamma, She's been doing it for a long long time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining the Twenty Minute Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twenty Huddle Podcast. Very happy welcome

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Speaker 3: Quacome to joy Lies year go. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: Right, let's get to the football field. You guys lose

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Speaker 2: Caliber guy over there that played out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: come to an end. Of course, you don't want it

441
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Speaker 1: to come to an end. You wanted to go all

442
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Speaker 1: the way through the Super Bowl and you win every game.

443
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Speaker 1: But it's hard, it's really hard. And I thought the

444
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 1: Bills played great. I thought they brought it to us

445
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 1: early on and we weren't able to overcome it. But yeah,

446
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 1: we're in We're in good shape.

447
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Speaker 6: Man.

448
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Speaker 3: We're twelve and two.

449
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Speaker 1: We've got three games ahead of us. We've got a

450
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Speaker 1: big division game this week, one that will be fired

451
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Speaker 1: up for I'm sure, they'll be fired up on the

452
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,400
Speaker 1: other side, and we'll be going one at a time,

453
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Speaker 1: you know, we want to win this one and then

454
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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But yeah, we're we're in

455
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Speaker 1: fine shape. We'll be just fine, and I think Dan

456
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,959
Speaker 1: does a good job leading that charge and keeping us

457
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Speaker 1: level headed. And to be honest, you know, people always

458
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Speaker 1: you know, what's changed was different? Nothing. It's the same

459
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Speaker 1: as it was last week. It's the same as it

460
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Speaker 1: was the week before. Nothing's changed internally besides our record,

461
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Speaker 1: and we're good.

462
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Speaker 2: You would have loved to win fifteen straight, but this

463
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: is the NFL. It's hard to win in this league.

464
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Speaker 2: And you guys did it for so long. But I

465
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: think you mentioned it too, and Dan had the message

466
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Speaker 2: that it was almost like a recalibration, you know, if

467
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Speaker 2: he used the term stuff as you get punched the face.

468
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Speaker 2: You can losing at this point in the season be

469
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Speaker 2: a good thing sometimes if.

470
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Speaker 1: You handle it the right way. Yeah, absolutely, if you

471
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Speaker 1: handle it the right way. And I think we're built

472
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Speaker 1: to do that. So, yes, you know, you never want

473
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Speaker 1: to lose. You would like to win every game, but

474
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Speaker 1: when you can lose in a way that you can

475
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Speaker 1: learn from it and you can get better and come

476
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Speaker 1: back the next week with maybe a little bit more

477
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Speaker 1: fire and a little bit more urgency and a little

478
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Speaker 1: bit more readiness and some aspects. Then yeah, absolutely, it's

479
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Speaker 1: good free What.

480
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Speaker 2: Was the learning points for you guys. What's the point

481
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Speaker 2: of emphasis from Ben this week?

482
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Speaker 3: Off last week?

483
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Speaker 2: Obviously you had a terrific game in the passing gave did.

484
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: The rushing game has struggled a little bit, which is

485
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Speaker 2: uncharacteristic of you guys this year. Has that been maybe

486
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Speaker 2: one of the things Ben's talked about focused on. What's

487
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Speaker 2: the messages were going into.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, it's a little bit of everything. I think,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, again, nothing's

490
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Speaker 1: really changed because we lost a game. It's still the

491
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Speaker 1: same messaging we've always had. We want to put up

492
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Speaker 1: a ton of points, we want to put up a

493
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Speaker 1: ton of yards. We want to be able to, you know,

494
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Speaker 1: sustain these games and win these games, and really the

495
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Speaker 1: messages whatever it takes. You know, at this point of

496
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Speaker 1: the season, we don't care. Dan said, I think at

497
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Speaker 1: one point this year, if it's ten points or if

498
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Speaker 1: it's fifty points, of course we'd like it to be

499
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Speaker 1: fifty points. But you know what, however many points it

500
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Speaker 1: takes to win the game, we will we will be

501
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Speaker 1: ready to do that.

502
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Speaker 2: You guys have pretty much been unscathed offensively in terms

503
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: of the injuries, obviously heavy on the defensive side. But

504
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 2: you get one this week with David Montgomery going down

505
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Speaker 2: what to see if that's a season there or nine?

506
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Speaker 2: And we's got in a the third opinion, just how

507
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Speaker 2: big of a loss is that? And then maybe on

508
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Speaker 2: the flip beend, just how much confidence do you have

509
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Speaker 2: in Jamiir, Craig, Jamar Baki, all those guys that you

510
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: could just keep this thing rolling. We talked to Ben

511
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Johnson this week and he said, look, nothing changes. Jamiir

512
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: is ready for this moment.

513
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Speaker 3: He's been groomed. We like where he's at. Just the

514
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Speaker 3: loss and then what you still have with Jamir.

515
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Speaker 1: And it sucks to lose David, you know, not only

516
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Speaker 1: for what he does on the field, but what he

517
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Speaker 1: does in our locker room and in the huddle and

518
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Speaker 1: throughout a game, and his energy and his ability to

519
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Speaker 1: make big plays. And yeah, it sucks. It's it's certainly

520
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: something will overcome, but we'll have to. But yeah, Gibbie's

521
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: as good of a running back as there is in

522
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Speaker 1: this league. So if he's the guy that has to

523
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Speaker 1: carry the load a little bit more, then then we're

524
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Speaker 1: certainly okay with that. And Craig and Jamar and Vaki

525
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: will be right there ready to fill in when needed,

526
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Speaker 1: And yeah, we feel good.

527
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Speaker 2: Defense has dealt with a ton of injuries as we

528
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Speaker 2: know twenty guys on ir do you guys, I don't

529
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Speaker 2: know if you talked about, but is there ever just

530
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Speaker 2: a feeling of thought that, hey, they're going through so

531
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Speaker 2: much and you know, Aaron's gonna have a good game

532
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: plan and he's been ready and they've filled in guys,

533
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Speaker 2: and they've played really, really good last week.

534
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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

535
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Speaker 2: Like we talked about, they've done well defensive, But as

536
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Speaker 2: an offense, do you guys ever like saved yourself or think, hey,

537
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 2: we know we've got to pick up the slack? Right?

538
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: Is that just what being a football team is about?

539
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: Is that just playing complimentary football?

540
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Speaker 1: I think yeah, it's more that it's more complimentary, like

541
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Speaker 1: I pick up the slacks probably the wrong term. It's

542
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Speaker 1: it's more if it takes thirty four like it did

543
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Speaker 1: against the Green Bay, then it takes thirty four. Last

544
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Speaker 1: week it would have taken what forty six how many

545
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: point I don't know how many points they scored, but

546
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Speaker 1: so would have taken forty nine. Like if we were

547
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: scored one more touchdown, we would in the game. So

548
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes, you know, if it's thirty four, ifty nine,

549
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: and Dan mentioned earlier in the week, if it's ten,

550
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Speaker 1: if it's seventeen, whatever whatever it takes for us. Offensively,

551
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: we've got to be ready to do. And defensively they'll

552
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: be just fine. They'll be ready to go, they'll do

553
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: their thing, they'll come out, they'll play hard, they'll play well,

554
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: and we'll feed off each other.

555
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Speaker 2: How much do you do you admire what Aaron has

556
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Speaker 2: done and all the different pieces he's had to place,

557
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: and it just seems every week they find a way

558
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: and they do what needs to to win a football game.

559
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Speaker 3: How much an admiration from the other.

560
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: Side and just looking at it, because I'm sure you've

561
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Speaker 2: see it in practice sometimes do just some of the

562
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: different changes, new guys and anything else.

563
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Speaker 3: Just what he's gone through and what.

564
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Speaker 2: He's done to have that defense as playing as well

565
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: as it has. Really consistently all year. How much do

566
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Speaker 2: you admire what he's done?

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a ton, he's he's a stud of a coach

568
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: and never hear an excuse out of him. He's just

569
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Speaker 1: gonna find a way to make it work. And he's

570
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Speaker 1: he's a great coach. We've got a lot of great coaches.

571
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Speaker 1: That whole staff over there on defense is a great job,

572
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Speaker 1: and I think our whole staff is a whole offense

573
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: defense Secial teams is pretty special and he's certainly a

574
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Speaker 1: big part of it.

575
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Speaker 3: Last week, you get to skip in the flat there.

576
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Speaker 2: How much do you love that when when you saw

577
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, you do the playfake and and you see

578
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: he sells it real great, does the block and he's

579
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: open in the just what's your thought? Is it?

580
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: Excitement?

581
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Speaker 6: Is it?

582
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Don't drop the ball?

583
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Speaker 1: Is throw because you know the ones that are hardware.

584
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: When he is so wide open, it is hard. It

585
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: seems harder sometimes to hit him with that. But yeah,

586
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to give him a nice catchuple ball

587
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: and if he scores, great, if he gets down to

588
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: the one you knew he was running that guy over day.

589
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know he didn't have to. He had

590
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: he could have ran right in, but he wanted to,

591
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Speaker 1: you know, lower his shoulder on that guy. And I'm

592
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: glad he scores.

593
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Speaker 3: How much do you love those moments for those kind

594
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: of players?

595
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Speaker 2: Right? I always considered like him, Guys like him and

596
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 2: Khalif and stuff like that, like glue pieces to a roster, Right,

597
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Like guys that will just step in, do anything, make

598
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: place when they have their opportunities. And and you know,

599
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: I fought to be cut and practice squad never made

600
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: it round and then they finally make it and then

601
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Speaker 2: they you get to do that for them.

602
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Speaker 3: How much do you love those moments?

603
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Speaker 1: It's very cool. It's very cool. And I think we

604
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of as like that actually, And obviously

605
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: he's a big one that's been, you know, bounced around

606
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: the league a little bit, been to a bunch of teams,

607
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: and for us to be able to, you know, have

608
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: him have a role, it's very cool. And when he's

609
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: able to get the ball in his hands, it's even cooler.

610
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's done a great job stepping in when needed,

611
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: whether it's guard or tackle. And I thought he played

612
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: great against Green Bay when he was playing left tackle.

613
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Speaker 1: And yeah, he's done a hell of a job.

614
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Speaker 3: You got the Bears this week. They played youre Tina

615
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Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving.

616
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Speaker 2: I think that game in the first half probably could

617
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 2: have been You guys could have maybe extended that lead

618
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more than you should have.

619
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Speaker 3: You probably look at that and like, sure, ifs and

620
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: butts and candy, that's every sure y's right.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. If we scored in the red zone

622
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Speaker 1: every time, yeah, we would have been up by more points.

623
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Speaker 1: But they're a good red zone defense.

624
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of that, just what maybe needs to

625
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: change with the red zone a little bit facing them?

626
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Speaker 2: And what's that dynamic when you face a team a

627
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Speaker 2: second time?

628
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

629
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Speaker 2: It just do you see a lot of difference when

630
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: when a team has success like that against a certain area,

631
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Speaker 2: do they tend to do the same thing? Will they

632
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: change it up a little bit knowing that you're probably

633
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Speaker 2: going to.

634
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: Change it up? Like, how does that dynamic work.

635
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: With that's the chess game that you play? Yeah?

636
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: Is that the fun part for you?

637
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: It is fun. It's fun for Ben and I and

638
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: more for him. He's trying to decide, you know, what

639
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: play to call on, what designed to come up with

640
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: tonight and throughout the week. But yeah, it's it's it's

641
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: cool to see, you know, to play that game a

642
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Now it's becomes even more complicated when they

643
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: change coaching and yeah, so then you don't even really know,

644
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: like what's the new guys philosophy. So there are a

645
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of pieces there. But at the same time, we're

646
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: going to change things as well, so they'll have to

647
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: prepare for that. And yeah, we got to be better

648
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: than the red zone against them this week. And I

649
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: know that's a point of emphasis, but you know, there

650
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: are a good red zone defense, but we got to

651
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: find a way to continue being a good red zone offense.

652
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: Well, you guys have found a way to be a

653
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: good team on the road all season long. Six and no,

654
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Speaker 2: I think you're the only team in the NFL is

655
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: undefeated on the road. What is it about that that

656
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: that you guys like about just being on the road?

657
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Detroit versus everybody, man is what it is.

658
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 6: It's simple, it is.

659
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: And three home games in a row is cool, don't

660
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: get me wrong, in front of our fans, but you know,

661
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you like, you know, going on the road and

662
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: feeling everyone against you. And I'm sure we'll have a

663
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: pretty good continguency out there of Lions fans. But you

664
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: like that feeling a little bit. You like hearing the

665
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: crowd get quiet when you throw a touchdown. You like

666
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, having that you know everyone it's against your feeling,

667
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: and we'll get that for the next two weeks.

668
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: It really hasn't been that in some places though. I

669
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: mean this, this fan base has.

670
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 6: Traveled so much, You've had some of that.

671
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's helped a little bit too. But cold weather game,

672
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: thirty degrees but no precipitation. Obviously, quarterbacks love that part

673
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: of it. Just what's your approach to games like this

674
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: when it's gonna be kind of cold and you know that.

675
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: That turf is tends to be slick sometimes when it

676
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: when it's cold.

677
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: Do you have a certain approach to those games?

678
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: The gloves no gloves did what what's your kind of

679
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: thought on that?

680
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. I mean I've got different tools I

681
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: can use, Like you mentioned the gloves. We'll see how

682
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: it goes on Sunday. If I feel like I need them.

683
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: What's the determined factor?

684
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Usually just pregame, I can tell oh really yeah right away?

685
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: Feel them all?

686
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I throw it. Sometimes I joke myself, I

687
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: throw it better with the gloves on, so I feel

688
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: good with those things on, and then yeah, just layers

689
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: if it's cold and go all right ahead. But yeah,

690
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: we've had some good success on the road and and

691
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: some of these cold weather games, and if that's what

692
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: it is again and we need to play accordingly.

693
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: We will division opponent. Those are always tough final stretch here. Look,

694
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: you guys control your own destiny, and that's got to

695
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: be the fun part about this, right. I mean you

696
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: guys know, if you win, you're the number one seed,

697
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: you get that buy and everything rolls to Detroit.

698
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: That's got to be the goal, right, Yeah, it's great.

699
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: It is a goal, It certainly is. And to be

700
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: able to come off a loss like we did this

701
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: late in the season and still be able to say

702
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: that is a testament to what we've done up to

703
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: this point. But yeah, you gotta go do it. And

704
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: that's the challenge is we got three good teams ahead

705
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: of us, starts with the Bears this week, but yeah,

706
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: we gotta go win this one first and move on

707
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: from there. We should be a fun one.

708
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: Go do it.

709
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, yep. No pro.

710
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the twenty in l Huddle podcast. I

711
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: am very happy to welcome it in. Mark Potosh. He

712
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: has been covering the Chicago Bears for the sun time

713
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty seven, so he's been in it for

714
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: all the good, all the bad. Mark, You're currently in

715
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of bad hate straight Just what's the

716
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: mood in Chicago right now? You obviously got off to

717
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: a terrific start four and two, and things have kind

718
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: of just come off the rails a couple of really

719
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: tough losses late in games. What's kind of the mentality

720
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: there to to finish out the last three games and

721
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: finish this thing strong.

722
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 6: I think more just resignation. I think after just such

723
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 6: a disappointment. This was supposed to be the year that

724
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 6: the Bears kind of went against the grain or their

725
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 6: normal their history, because they had the quarterback, they had

726
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: the receivers, they were seemingly set up, they had a

727
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 6: good defense. They were five and three at the end

728
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: of last year, and and it just all fell apart

729
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 6: in very typical fashion. And so I think there's there's hope,

730
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: there's always hope that the coaching change will be better,

731
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: But at this point, it's been so long now, I

732
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: think eleven non winning seasons out of last twelve, and

733
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 6: it's been so long. You know, Lions fans know exactly

734
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: what I'm talking about. They've been through the same thing

735
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 6: and and the Bears trying to get to that point

736
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 6: where the Lions are and they just haven't been able

737
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 6: to do it. So I think fans are just I

738
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: think they're at a point now where they used to

739
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 6: have hope and now they just have to see it

740
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 6: to believe it. And so there's it. So frankly, the

741
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 6: mood is down here, even with like the quarterback prospect

742
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 6: the Bears have ever had, and now the fear is

743
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 6: that they're ruining him and as has happened so often before.

744
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: So to answer your question, uh, in a in a

745
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 6: kind of a roundabout way, just very down and just discouraged,

746
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 6: probably more than anything else. And and uh and not

747
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 6: not very hopeful.

748
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Well, Lions fans can certainly vouch for the fact that

749
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: it just takes the right head coach. It takes that

750
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: right kind of guy that that brings in that atmosphere. Certainly,

751
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: Detroit's found that with Dan Campbell and Chicago will be

752
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: looking for the same thing, is is there a fear

753
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: when you look at Caleb Williams got off to a

754
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: great start, and look, he's doing some things. I think

755
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: that that go maybe under the radar. The lack of interceptions,

756
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: I think that's rare for rookies. He takes care of

757
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: the football, but he's been missing some guys and it

758
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: looks like he's regressed a little bit that here down

759
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: the stretch. Is that the fear that that you know,

760
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: this kid maybe goes through so much adversity that he

761
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: can't can't bounce back. You've been close to him. Is

762
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: that a worry at all? Or do you think he's

763
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: got the right mindset?

764
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 6: I think that's definitely the concern. Look, Kayleb Williams is

765
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 6: better than justin fields, He's better than Mitch Trubisky. It's

766
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 6: a different animal. There's no doubt that this guy has

767
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 6: a much better chance to be special than the previous

768
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 6: two quarterbacks did. But it's gotten to the point now

769
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 6: he's on his third coordinator, uh a second head coach already,

770
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: and the way he's played this this year, the last

771
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 6: couple of weeks, there is starting to be that fear

772
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: that here we go again, and that even though in

773
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: the right hands, there's no doubt that he could be

774
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 6: an elite quarterback, much like I said, much more so

775
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 6: than either Fields or Trubisky. I think the fear is

776
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 6: that he's wearing down and that they will you know,

777
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 6: ruin him as you know, as has happened before. So yeah,

778
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 6: there's a definite fear of that. There's no certainty that

779
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 6: that this guy will be able to rise above the

780
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 6: muck of Chicago Bears football and kind of and and

781
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 6: and rise above it and be you know, be great.

782
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 6: I think it's pretty clear now that he needs the

783
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 6: right coach and the right GM and just the right

784
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 6: everything to be good. He can't lift a team on

785
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 6: his shoulders. He's not that good. He's not you know,

786
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: he's not He's not Patrick Mahomes and and but he

787
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 6: needs a lot of how he needs help to at

788
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 6: least get in that realm. And the fear is that

789
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 6: it's not gonna it might not happen because the Bears

790
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 6: are just dysfunctional.

791
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Look, we've seen him at his best that second half

792
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: versus Detroit. I mean, he was really really good at

793
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: three touchdown passes, nearly brought them back, so we know

794
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: it's there and he's done it in stretches. But that

795
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: first half was I think fifty three yards. I think

796
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: they only had maybe three first downs or whatever it was,

797
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: zero points. Were shut out. They've been shut out in

798
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: the first half the last three. What's really just been

799
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: the issue to start games and how do they start

800
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: faster Sunday against Detroit.

801
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know, and they don't know. That's the

802
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 6: more important thing they really, you know, they've been trying

803
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: to They've been trying to start fast all season. They've

804
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: had a problem with that, even when they were playing well.

805
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 6: I think they struggled with starting I don't know why

806
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 6: they really, That's one of the things when you ask them,

807
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: they really have no clue. They just said, we want

808
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: to be better, and you know, and then and they

809
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: always aren't. So I don't know. I don't know the

810
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 6: answer to that other than that there's not a very

811
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: good offense. And I'll tell you there's one interesting thing

812
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: I thought about that that Lions game that you know,

813
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: they had the slow start and then they picked it up,

814
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: but you know, in a moment of extreme decision, you know,

815
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: but even though it was the lack of a timeout

816
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 6: that got man Ebres was fired. Uh. Caleb Williams also

817
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 6: kind of didn't really rise to the moment and he

818
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 6: kind of frozen that moment himself. And and that was

819
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: to me, I've been watching the restaurant. That to me,

820
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 6: that was a little bit of a red flag that

821
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 6: he doesn't have quite the instinct that a Joe Burrow

822
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 6: has that a Patrick Mahomes has. He's done that before,

823
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 6: you know, I think the week before or a couple

824
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: weeks before, he'd played a similar situation, played a great

825
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: second half against the Vikings, but took a twelve yard

826
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: sack in overtime when he held out of the ball

827
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: for nine seconds, which most quarterbacks just know not to do.

828
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 6: So he's made a couple of errors, frankly, you know,

829
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 6: kind of a little bit red flaggish about just what

830
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 6: he can do. And so I think that was that

831
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 6: was kind of an underrated part with where eber Flu's

832
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 6: getting fired. That was kind of an underrated facet to

833
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: that Lions game. When he really should have had responded

834
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 6: to the urgency of the moment and even though the

835
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 6: coach maybe should have called time out, he should have

836
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: responded and gotten his team to the line faster and

837
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: played that better. So a little bit. So I know

838
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 6: your question was about the slow starts, but that, to

839
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 6: me was was the bigger impact of that game. And

840
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 6: that just shows you how he really needs help, you know,

841
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: more than he can't just do it on his own.

842
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 6: So I think that's a little bit of a cause

843
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 6: for concern. But anyway to your question, I'll be honest,

844
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 6: I'm at a loss. The Bears are lost. They don't

845
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 6: know why they're starting so slow. What happens is when

846
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 6: they turn it on in the second half, you know

847
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 6: they've got it. But that's typical the Bears. They they

848
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 6: have it in them, but there's always something there's always

849
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 6: something wrong, and you know, and they just they just

850
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 6: haven't figured it out.

851
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: No, I think that was a good point by you

852
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: actually at the end of the Bears game, because I

853
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: thought that went a little bit under reported. Obviously, your

854
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: coach has got to have your back, and when it

855
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: gets down to fourteen thirteen twelve, he's got to say, Okay, look,

856
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: the kid doesn't got it. Let's let's call the time out.

857
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's refocus, we can get out of bounce. Let's do that,

858
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: but Williams should have.

859
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: At this point.

860
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: He's not really a rookie, right and he should have.

861
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: So I think it actually is a good point. I

862
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: thought it wasn't talked about him as much at the

863
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: end of that game. Injury wise, we know where the

864
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Lions are at. Obviously it's a huge storyline in the NFL.

865
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Twenty plus guys on injured reserve. But how Chicago doing

866
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: injury wise heading into this one? They're going to have

867
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: most of their pieces, any guys maybe on the fence.

868
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: Well, they've had I mean, they've had some injury issues,

869
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: but that hasn't been a big problem at all. That

870
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 6: they lost Andrew Billings early and he's a big part

871
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: of the run defense, but that was The run defense

872
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: has been leaky all year for a team that led

873
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 6: the NFL and run defense last year, and that was

874
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 6: a few weeks ago. Recently, their biggest issue I think

875
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 6: is at left tackle, where Braxton Jones is out. And

876
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 6: last week they started they started a rookie Coron I'm

877
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 6: a guy and he just had one of those bad

878
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 6: rookie games. The third round draft pick uh in his

879
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: first NFL start, Uh, you know, on the road in

880
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 6: a in a dome. It was just a bad situation.

881
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 6: And uh yeah, he had just had a bad game

882
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 6: with holding penalties and gave up a strip, sack and stuff.

883
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 6: So I think they'll go back to him. And the

884
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 6: issue there, of course, is that at least from a

885
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 6: Bear's perspective, is that they have a veteran who could

886
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 6: who should be able to fill in and Larry Boram.

887
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 6: But Larry Borum has been so ineffective this year that

888
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 6: they literally went with a rookie and put him in

889
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: a bad spot, you know, knowing that it was going

890
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: to be a bad spot. It just shows you how

891
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 6: how how bad uh the Bears are on their offensive

892
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 6: line and and their depth, which they which you know,

893
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: Ryan Polser GM thought was going to be a strength,

894
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: so that would that would be He said that was

895
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 6: this is the best stepth we I've ever had on

896
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: the offensive line. Was very sold on it. And I

897
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: mentioned that because that just typifies how disappointing the Bears

898
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 6: have been. What they thought were strengths have become weaknesses.

899
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 6: And that's as you guys know, I keep saying that,

900
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 6: you know, that's how that's how you have a disappointing season.

901
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: And so that's probably the biggest The biggest injury concern

902
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 6: right now.

903
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: Is on the.

904
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 6: Offensive line, where you know they're they're just struggling.

905
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, one hundred and ninety four rushing

906
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: yards for the Lions on Thanksgiving a few weeks ago

907
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: average five point nine.

908
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: So they've struggled in that regard the last two weeks.

909
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: They're hoping that they can get back on track the

910
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: way they did against Chicago.

911
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: What's the key mark for Chicago on Sunday?

912
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: You know, to snap this eight game losing streak to

913
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: force the upset.

914
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: What do you think is the biggest key What.

915
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: Does Chicago have to do Sunday to kind of break

916
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: this and get back in the WKUM and really hand

917
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: Detroit a huge loss.

918
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: Well, I hate to say it, but they have to

919
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 6: get off to a fast start. I mean they counting,

920
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: they can't keep counting on rallying in the second half. Now.

921
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 6: They have played the Lions tough, even as the Lions

922
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: have gotten better here in the last few years. You know,

923
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 6: they beat them at at Soldier Field last year, played

924
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 6: them tough at four Field the last two years. They

925
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: do play them well, and the Lions kind of play

926
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 6: down to the Bears level a little bit, as you know,

927
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: that's been They've done that, you know, So so I

928
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 6: think it's I anticipated still being a close, a close game,

929
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 6: a competitive game, But the Bears really just need to

930
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 6: get off to a fast start because they're home now

931
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 6: for the first time in three weeks, and Bears fans

932
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 6: are not happy. And if the Bears get off to

933
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: a bad start, the booe birds are going to be

934
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 6: coming out pretty quickly and it's gonna and this team

935
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 6: has not responded well to adversity. They lost on the

936
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 6: Hail Mary, and that has totally turned their season around.

937
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 6: They have not they have not won since uh and

938
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 6: and they have just not done well in adverse situations.

939
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 6: So so I think I think that it's almost cliche

940
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: to say it, but they have to get off to

941
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 6: a good start because even playing at home, that's almost

942
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 6: going to be a detriment because their own fans are

943
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 6: going to be all over them if they don't start fast.

944
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to ask you something, maybe just maybe

945
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: a little off the field, but but just the stadium

946
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: talk there in Chicago, where where's that sit right now?

947
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: I know Lions fans heard that could be in a

948
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: retractable roof.

949
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: We could have a dome in Chicago.

950
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Obviously that could bring a lot of national events and

951
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: stuff like that to Chicago. Lions fans are certainly excited

952
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: about those prospects. Where does that stand stadium wise and

953
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: in Chicago? Is that still kind of yet to be determined.

954
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: Yes, it's been almost you can almost call it a

955
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 6: boondoggle the way they way, it's so typical the way

956
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: Bears have have handled it. Uh, this is part of

957
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 6: the dysfunction that that that the Bears. The Bears have

958
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 6: just been wracked with. You know, they they their their

959
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: previous team, president Ted Phillips, arranged what looked like a

960
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 6: pretty good deal and subvert in the suburbs in Arlingcoln

961
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 6: Heights for a dome stadium, no retractable roof. They will

962
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 6: not do that. They will be a dome stadium. And

963
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 6: they look like they were all set for that. And

964
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 6: then they hired Ted's replacement, Kevin Warren, who's with the

965
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 6: Big Ten and the Vikings, and he typical of the Bears.

966
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: They hired a guy to go in the completely opposite direction.

967
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: He wants to go in Chicago and he's dead set

968
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: on on building stadium in Chicago, and even though he's

969
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 6: kind of been rebuffed in those efforts, he's still trying

970
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 6: to do it. And so the Bears are kind of,

971
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 6: you know, slip sliding their way to this, which should

972
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 6: have been a much easier They had a much better deal,

973
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 6: a much easier deal in Arlington Heights, a huge tract

974
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 6: of land where Arling where Arlington Park was, and and

975
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 6: they destroyed a world class horse racing facility. They just

976
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: they tore down Arlington Park to create even more land

977
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 6: for this great thing in Arlington Heights. And now they

978
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 6: want up playing in Chicago. So that's so typical of

979
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 6: the Bears. I don't know where they are. I still

980
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 6: think they'll end up in Arlington Heights. There was a

981
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 6: tax issue that the Bears were concerned about, which to

982
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 6: me financially was pretty minor, but to them was a

983
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 6: big deal. But that has since been solved. So if

984
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 6: they want to go to Arlington Heights, they can, but

985
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: they're dead set on. Kevin Warren is set on having

986
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: a stadium in Chicago on the lake front, if the

987
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 6: lake front if possible, And right now, who knows where

988
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 6: they're at you know, I I just hope I'm alive

989
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 6: to see it at this point because it just takes

990
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 6: They're just they're just taking so long to get it done.

991
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 6: But I answer your question, all I can tell you

992
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 6: is it's a typical Bears deal. It's just all it's

993
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 6: harder than it should be.

994
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, Mark, I know it's been a tough season. You've

995
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: been through a bunch of them. I certainly have over

996
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: over my fifteen years here too. But look like you said,

997
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: these two teams play tough when they do play. That's

998
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: just kind of been them and so I expect a

999
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: pretty good one on Sunday. It should be tough. It

1000
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: looks like we're gonna avoid some precipitation, but.

1001
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: It'll be cold.

1002
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: We will be outdoors at least it sounds like maybe

1003
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future until they figure that out. But

1004
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: should be a good one. Mark, I appreciate you taking

1005
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: the time so much. Make sure any Chicago news you need.

1006
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: Mark Potash is a guy there in Chicago's been doing

1007
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: it for a long long time for the Sun Times.

1008
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: Appreciate you taking the time, and we'll talk to you

1009
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

1010
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 6: Okay, thanks for having me. I appreciate it,