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Speaker 2: Welcome in. We'll get the football in.

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Speaker 1: Two or so minutes. How's that two or so minutes?

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Speaker 1: That okay with you guys? Yeah, I mean kind of

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Speaker 1: big breaking story. We'll talk some Packers, we'll talk some Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk some cowboys, Like why talk to the cowboys?

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Speaker 1: Because of the cowboys. Now you'll you'll understand upcoming. Let

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Speaker 1: me first start with the news of the day, the

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Speaker 1: news of the moment. Bruce Pearl's retired at Auburn. He

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Speaker 1: released a video which is on social media, just came out.

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Speaker 1: I just watched it myself, and he says, now it's

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Speaker 1: time obviously if you've been following Bruce Pearl. He has

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Speaker 1: some political aspirations. Something he said in the video which

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Speaker 1: I totally understand. He said, you know, if I told

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Speaker 1: people if I couldn't stay, if I was one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent committed, was an all in did have the same energy,

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Speaker 1: then I would retire.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of things that people.

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Speaker 1: Have asked me about a one year in And for

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Speaker 1: the record, I love my jobs, both of them. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting around yesterday, I'm texting with my players and they're

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Speaker 1: so jealous because I get to talk about football. A

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Speaker 1: bunch of are Packer fans, and you know, they want

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Speaker 1: me to just evisterate everybody today, fire everybody type thing.

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Speaker 1: Not really, and we'll get to that, but the one

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Speaker 1: thing that really And Bruce's a friend. I coached under

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Speaker 1: him some with the Maccabiah, which is the Jewish Olympics.

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Speaker 1: His son Steven has not taken over, actually played for

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Speaker 1: my dad. We're good friends, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: ties there and I think ultimately Bruce Parl should be

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. I don't think it's close. You know,

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Speaker 1: they go to two final fours at Auburn, they win champ.

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Speaker 1: I think what five SEC championships and some variety with

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Speaker 2: Pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: But it's a twenty four hour job, and for me

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Speaker 1: it's twenty one. But you know, while I'm on air,

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Speaker 1: the texts are coming. Now we have a system to

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Speaker 1: where everybody knows house got to be on fire before

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Speaker 1: you text DG during the show. But the point is

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Speaker 1: that it's a it's like your and and here's the

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Speaker 1: other part is now you have additional responsibilities. People believe

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Speaker 1: that all you do is coach basketball and then do interviews,

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Speaker 1: Like remember when you're a head coach. It's different at

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Speaker 1: my level, which is the lower level than Auburn at

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Speaker 1: the top of the SEC, but it's still the same

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Speaker 1: in that you have to manage people, your staff, your players,

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Speaker 1: a CEO as well, like I have to manage all

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Speaker 1: of the budget for everything, which I know Bruce essentially does.

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Speaker 1: Even if you have people who are your GM, even

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Speaker 1: if you have people who work in administrative in those

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Speaker 1: with those things, still comes down to the n day, Like, hey, coach,

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Speaker 1: we only have so much money. That number is much

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Speaker 1: bigger there than it is here. What do you want

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Speaker 1: to allocate it to? And then, you know, if you've

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Speaker 1: been an unbelievable recruiter your whole life, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: stop recruiting. I would also tell you that though they're

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Speaker 1: now because some kids not at our level, but some

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Speaker 1: make a decision, and it's speed dating. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's just the current era. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: And it's really really difficult to do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also guessing that the reason it was done

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Speaker 1: So and Dean Smith did this with Bill Guthridge. Other

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Speaker 1: an absolute legendary personality and fabulous coach in a Bruce Pearl.

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Speaker 1: My guess is he goes into politics, which if he

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Speaker 1: But he's a passionate guy and sometimes it just takes

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Speaker 1: when you've been doing this thing for forty years, I've

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Speaker 2: I love it. Will you be doing this thing.

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Speaker 1: For forty years, You're probably like, Okay, I've climbed all

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Speaker 1: these mountains. Now what All right, let's get to the

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Speaker 1: National Football League also got college football to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and again, there is probably a little piece of the

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Speaker 1: circle back to it, which I'm sure turns Bruce off,

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Speaker 1: turns other You know, Dabo Sweeney was king of the world.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden they're struggling. Do I think

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Do I think they don't recruit the same level. Sure,

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Speaker 1: But Dabosweeney, much like Mike Gundy. It's like two years ago,

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Speaker 1: So how do guys that were elite coaches for a

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, something tells me that the sport is

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Speaker 1: changing and you got to adapt and adjust or perish. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So the Browns beat the Packers. Why does it feel

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Speaker 2: Why does it feel like that? Now?

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Speaker 1: Part of it is this young roster, but championship teams

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Speaker 1: don't lose that game. Yesterday, third and three, three and

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Speaker 1: the Packers chose to throw the ball instead of run

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Speaker 1: game where you got to win those. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: Well, that was extremely disappointing obviously to be in a

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Speaker 3: field goal range. It's tough, it's tough to deal with,

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Speaker 3: the losses, and you got to move on. One thing

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Speaker 3: be tough to overcome that. So we got to do

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Speaker 3: a much better job of coaching the fundamentals, the details,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, six fall starts, it's going to get

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Speaker 1: the Packers. You look back, you had a field goal block,

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Speaker 1: Like you had two offensive linemen return from injury, but

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Speaker 1: should have won the game and That's really probably the

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Speaker 1: story of yesterday, right, is that the best teams final.

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Speaker 2: That's the Eagles, Right, It's that the Eagles this the

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Speaker 1: I mean even in the last year in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: You know, you have an offensive lineman, say they go undefeated,

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Speaker 1: So now he's got to make his picks every week

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a weird feeling that Jason Stewart and I have

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Speaker 1: weird feeling. What's that weird feeling, you ask, Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: a team that should very well win a game, that

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, like, look, the it's just a weird

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Speaker 1: And then he would blatant rip off you guys, do

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Speaker 8: My other favorite part was he said that you've never

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Speaker 1: It was I mean this, Jason, you can got guys,

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Speaker 1: My way is Jason, I said that was Yesterday was

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Speaker 1: the greatest day in the history of Red Zone. Like

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Speaker 2: It was so good, so good. Red Zone was amazing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: That's the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and every week we're

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Speaker 1: We're just so excited to be joined by Tom to

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Speaker 1: What about the Chiefs? You know, you had a little

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Speaker 9: It looked different in the second half. So whatever we've

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Speaker 9: But but you saw a different Chiefs team the second half.

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Speaker 9: But you know, offensively, they still have the same issues.

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Speaker 9: the flip side, Sean Payton teams have always mastered situational football.

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Speaker 9: That's one of his hallmarks. But for the second week

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Speaker 9: in a row, they didn't quite get it. I mean,

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Speaker 9: they had the Broncos had a lot of penalties yesterday.

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Speaker 9: They just had some plays in the fourth quarter the

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Speaker 9: last two weeks that don't translate the winning which you

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Speaker 9: don't usually see because I think the Broncos have an

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Speaker 9: excellent team. They got stars on our team, especially in

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Speaker 9: defense with Nick Bonito, Zach Allen, Patrick Sartan. But the

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Speaker 9: Chargers just they willed it through in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 9: And I give a lot of credit to that coaching

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Speaker 9: staff and the players they brought in. They got a

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Speaker 9: really good football team.

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Speaker 1: Tom plesco our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's sprinkle around the rest

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Speaker 1: of the rest of the league. I don't remember a

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Speaker 1: team blocking two field goals in one game, let alone

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Speaker 1: in the same quarter, and the second one was a

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Speaker 1: manageable one, so usually it's not even a question that

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Speaker 1: no one has a chance. What's going on that? Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 1: my producer, said something kind of brilliant to me before

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Speaker 1: the show. He's like, there's two things happening.

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Speaker 2: Once.

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Speaker 1: Sixty plus yard field goals are kind of the norm,

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Speaker 1: not the exception, and yet blockfield goals are a little

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Speaker 1: bit more normal.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with the kicking game.

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Speaker 9: Well, I I have to see the tape of I

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Speaker 9: want to see how they I mean, I know they

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Speaker 9: blocked it from the inside. I want to see where

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Speaker 9: the leakers came from. They come between the snapper and

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Speaker 9: the guard or the guard and the tackle. But the

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Speaker 9: Eagles have some big, powerful men up front. And not

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Speaker 9: that that was a long kick. Typically that the longer kicks,

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Speaker 9: the ball comes a little bit lower and you do

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Speaker 9: have a chance to block it up the middle. But

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Speaker 9: that wasn't that extraordinarily long a kick. But yeah, I

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Speaker 9: mean it's early in the season. This is where you

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Speaker 9: tend to see some some special teams mistakes, whether it's

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Speaker 9: on returns with some fumbles, muff punts, or block field goals.

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Speaker 9: They tend to even out over time of the course

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Speaker 9: of the season. But the Eagles are just a really

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Speaker 9: well rounded football team. They do what they have to

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Speaker 9: do to win a game. I thought the Rams and

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Speaker 9: for the really second straight year, Chris Shulaz, that coordinator

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Speaker 9: defensive coordinator for the Rams, didn't that outstanding job against

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Speaker 9: the Eagles last year, did a really good job against

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Speaker 9: him yesterday until the fourth quarter, and then the Eagles

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Speaker 9: look they I think they would like to run the ball,

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Speaker 9: but in the end, like if we have to throw it,

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Speaker 9: will throw it. And they do it really well. You know,

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Speaker 9: Hurst through for over two hundred yards and they made

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Speaker 9: some plays with the receivers and then you know special

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Speaker 9: teams comes up with two big block kicks. So it's

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Speaker 9: Eagles really have a full football team offense, defense, special teams.

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Speaker 9: You saw that yesterday. They had to use it all,

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Speaker 9: but it was it was interesting to see how well

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Speaker 9: the Eagles kind of got the passing game going when

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Speaker 9: they had to get it going.

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Speaker 2: Where are you on the touch push?

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Speaker 9: I can't stand it. I can't stand it, but you

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Speaker 9: know my stance hasn't changed on it. I don't like

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Speaker 9: to play. I think it's a boring play and I

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Speaker 9: think if you watch how still the old line in

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Speaker 9: D line get up after the play, you can see

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Speaker 9: how taxing it is on their bodies. But to me,

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Speaker 9: the biggest thing it has nothing to do with how

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Speaker 9: good the Eagles are at it. I just don't think

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Speaker 9: it's an equitable play between the offense and the defense.

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Speaker 9: And a lot of it's because the offense gets forward progress,

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Speaker 9: so you know they can push as far as they can,

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Speaker 9: they get the further spot that the football goes. But

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Speaker 9: at the defense, if they push the runner back as

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Speaker 9: far as they can, you know that runner gets forward

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Speaker 9: progress no matter where the whistle was blown, so they

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Speaker 9: don't get the same spot. So I just think it's

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Speaker 9: an imbalance between the two sides that have that play.

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Speaker 9: I don't get caught up in people trying to penalize

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Speaker 9: the Eagles. I mean back in the nineteen seventies when

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Speaker 9: the Steelers and Raiders used to beat up receivers all

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Speaker 9: over the field, and it just wasn't good for the game.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't very visually pleasing, kind of competitively imbalanced. You know,

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Speaker 9: they made the change in the secondary that you can't

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Speaker 9: do that, and it really wasn't a vent dead against

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Speaker 9: those two teams. It's just, you know, we're trying to

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Speaker 9: find a better brand of football. So I'm hoping they

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Speaker 9: voted out moving forward and has nothing to do with

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Speaker 9: how the good Eagles are And I just think it's

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Speaker 9: a boring play to watch.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kayler Williams sohws four touchdowns dow interceptions. But we

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Speaker 1: started by talking about the Cowboys, as you said, not

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Speaker 1: very strong on defense, Senator, that's very well said, right,

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Speaker 1: that's incredibly they I can say that that is a

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Speaker 1: bad defense right now they are lost. So how seriously

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Speaker 1: can we take Kayleb William's numbers considering he's playing against

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Speaker 1: a team that just last weekend Russell Wilson looked like

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Speaker 1: Johnny and iis.

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Speaker 9: Look, you have to kind of take this as a

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Speaker 9: big body to work and not just go week to week.

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Speaker 9: But obviously it's it's a positive yesterday. I just think

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Speaker 9: with Caleb, like, you know, his game is completely different

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Speaker 9: than Jared Goff's. So you know, Ben Johnson isn't going

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Speaker 9: to walk into the Bears and just run a duplication

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Speaker 9: of the Lions offense. You can't like the receivers, the

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Speaker 9: tight ends, the offensive line, the quarterback. Certainly they have

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Speaker 9: different skill sets. So I just think as you move

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Speaker 9: through this season, you have to have some patience. Is

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Speaker 9: going to take some time for both the quarterback and

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Speaker 9: the head coach to get a feel for each other

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Speaker 9: and for Ben to get a feel for what is

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Speaker 9: Caleb really good at. You know that the Bear they

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Speaker 9: ran the ball a lot yesterday. Now they didn't get

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Speaker 9: a ton of yards from it. But at least they

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Speaker 9: kept the pass rush at Day a little bit, and

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys don't have a great pass rush right now anyways.

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Speaker 9: But you know, he Caleb had a lot of define throws,

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Speaker 9: and I don't know if Caleb was ever going to

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Speaker 9: be a anticipate windows opening and release it and with

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Speaker 9: ball placement, but if you can see a receiver like

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Speaker 9: a defined read and see the open receiver, he's got

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Speaker 9: the big time arm talent to drill the ball in there,

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Speaker 9: and plus he has the skills to go off schedule

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Speaker 9: and run around and be a magician. So I think

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Speaker 9: it's just both just trying to get a feel for

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Speaker 9: the offense what he's really good at and what they

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Speaker 9: have to keep improving on. But certainly with a step

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Speaker 9: in the right direction for the Bears this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I would concur with that Lions tonight against the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: What's the biggest difference you've noticed in the play calling

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Speaker 1: and the offense.

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Speaker 9: I can't take away yet, but there's definitely there's just

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Speaker 9: going to be changes for the Lions, obviously, and I

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Speaker 9: think there's going to be a great test to see

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Speaker 9: where they are on both sides the ball, with both

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Speaker 9: coordinators because to me, the Ravens have the most complete

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Speaker 9: team in the league, so both sides, offensive, defense, so

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Speaker 9: I know there are lines are trying to run a

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Speaker 9: lot of the same things, which is good to me.

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Speaker 9: They have a system that works. But anytime there's a

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Speaker 9: new person in that chair, you know the game plan

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Speaker 9: is gonna be a little bit different, and then the

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Speaker 9: game day play calling is going to be a little

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Speaker 9: bit different. It's just the nature of it. So it's

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Speaker 9: still early in the year. I don't have any major

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Speaker 9: takeaways yet, but I'm curious tonight to watch how they

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Speaker 9: can handle the Ravens. And the Ravens to me or

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Speaker 9: even though they have some injuries on defense tonight, the

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Speaker 9: Ravens are loaded on both sides. They're really well coached,

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Speaker 9: so it's gonna be a great test for the Lions tonight.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 9: Hey Tom, Thanks Doug.

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Speaker 5: This is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: Dan't buy what you got, Doug.

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Speaker 5: The game today is big deal, little deal.

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Speaker 2: No deal?

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Speaker 8: All right, six scenarios here, big deal, little deal or

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Speaker 8: no deal. The New York Giants had coach Bryan Dabole

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Speaker 8: said today that they are evaluating everything. When asked about

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Speaker 8: the quarterback position, a little deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they saw it. I mean again, if

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Speaker 1: we had to be fair to Russell Wilson. I know

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Speaker 1: this is really hard for us as sports fans because

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Speaker 1: we all react what we saw last, you know, but

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Speaker 1: what we saw last was terrible. He was not good

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Speaker 1: and made a really bad decision at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game. Okay, but the week before he was spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I'll granted it was against the Cowboys, Okay, so you

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Speaker 1: gotta take it with a grain salt, but he was really,

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Speaker 1: really good. Everybody knows they want to play Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the plan is to play Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: right now. So it's an honest an. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at it, but probably circle back to Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's actually played pretty well here, probably one and a

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Speaker 1: half of the three games we're not pulling for Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart just yet.

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Speaker 7: This is my question.

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Speaker 4: What's the benefit of sticking with him, both pr wise

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Speaker 4: and job security wise? Well, because he only keep a

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Speaker 4: job to bring in the rookie and take a hill

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Speaker 4: Mary uh No.

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Speaker 1: I would say for day ball, yes, No, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is. They have a plan lined out

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Speaker 1: and look, if management says you got to play them,

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Speaker 1: then they play them. But I would guess this is

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Speaker 1: all according to plan, and right now they have massive

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Speaker 1: offensive line problems. So you put Jackson Dart, who's you know,

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Speaker 1: never played an NFL snap before in his life, behind

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, and that's.

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Speaker 2: That's not good either. So what's the benefits?

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Speaker 1: I think the first thing is you you give Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart more and more time to feel comfortable with how

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Speaker 1: all the operation works. At some point in time, he'll

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Speaker 1: start Russell Wilson in the second half of bad games

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Speaker 1: more often, more and more snaps.

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Speaker 2: Still becomes obvious.

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Speaker 1: The other part is you can't take him out once

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Speaker 1: you start him. You're not gonna pull him and sit him,

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Speaker 1: So you do it later in the season. Go ahead, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is this isn't just a Jackson Dark question

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Speaker 8: because it is a Russell Wilson question because the Giants

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Speaker 8: could just play Jameis Winston. And if you play Jameis

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Speaker 8: Winston and if Jackson Dart is your backup, then now

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Speaker 8: Russell Wilson is your emergency quarterback and you have completely

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Speaker 8: turned the page on him. I actually think that aspect

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Speaker 8: of it adds another layer to this drama because.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think of that that's go ahead because.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just because I think you're right that they don't

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Speaker 8: want to turn it over to Jackson Dart right now,

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Speaker 8: but it may be the only way to save Brian

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Speaker 8: Dable and Joe Shane's job. Is if Jackson Dart starts

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Speaker 8: right now, if it's just about winning games and getting

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Speaker 8: a W in the win column, then you may want

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Speaker 8: to play Jameis Winston and then cash out and move

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Speaker 8: on from Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've never been one to hate to

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Speaker 1: say I told you so, But I told you so. Like,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's not a starter in the NFL. It's a

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Speaker 1: really hard one because he has such an impressive resume

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Speaker 1: you feel like you have to start him, but it's

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Speaker 1: just not.

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Speaker 2: He only wants to go to place so he's going

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Speaker 2: to get.

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Speaker 1: The first opportunity to start, first writer of refusal and

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Speaker 1: this is the end of the road for him as

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Speaker 1: a starter. Doesn't mean he won't play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He had to be a backup and then assume a

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Speaker 1: starting role. But like this is this is fourth team

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Speaker 1: and what six years? Seven years?

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Speaker 2: It's over. It's over.

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Speaker 8: Big deal, little deal or no deal. Like Caleb Williams

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Speaker 8: threw four touchdown passes against the Cowboys and his former

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Speaker 8: head coach Dallas defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matty Everblus is struggling, but you know he's taking

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Speaker 1: over a defense that was designed by Dan Quinn. And

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Speaker 1: then you know Zimmra was there last year. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: third decoordinator in three years is hard. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you couldn't say it's a big deal. A

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Speaker 1: guy who's been struggling four touchdowns, no interceptions against Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: It's a big deal. It's not.

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Speaker 1: You don't put it on his tombstone, right he threw

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns in twenty five against the non playoff Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: No, but it's a big.

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Speaker 8: Step, big deal, little deal or no deal. The Eagles

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Speaker 8: back door cover over the Rams yesterday on that blocked

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Speaker 8: field goal return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's a big deal. It's crazy turnaround.

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Speaker 1: I don't know financially how impactful it was, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go little deal, little deal.

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Speaker 8: I ran into in the hallways of Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 8: yesterday and I picked the Rams. I'm not sure who

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Speaker 8: you picked, Doug or Jason or Sam picked, but multiple

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Speaker 8: people when the Rams were up twenty six to seven

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Speaker 8: were glad to offer that they had picked the Rams

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Speaker 8: in this contest, and then not only to have the

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Speaker 8: Rams not win, but then not cover. I would have

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Speaker 8: to think that there are a lot of people on

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Speaker 8: that side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in LA and it is the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and everybody hates the Eagles and they know it. They

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Speaker 1: don't care, So it probably but it probably feels bigger.

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Speaker 1: But everyone's talking about the bad beat part of element

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Speaker 1: to it, which is interesting.

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Speaker 8: Because you think, like, oh, even if he misses it,

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Speaker 8: still the Rams cover oluffer if it's blocked, that goes

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Speaker 8: out of bounds, or if it's just a mess, but

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Speaker 8: instead you get that bounce up and let me ask you,

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Speaker 8: this was it was it?

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Speaker 2: Who was it? Who was it? Was it the bear?

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Speaker 1: Who was it last week who didn't kick it out

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Speaker 1: of the end zone? Who is the last week who

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Speaker 1: threw their their upper point? It might have been Monday

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Speaker 1: Night foot one of the Monday night football games where

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Speaker 1: they're up a point and they went for two and

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Speaker 1: they're only six seconds left, And I was like, that's

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Speaker 1: a terrible play because if you go for two and

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Speaker 1: you throw the football, if it gets intercepted, they run

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Speaker 1: it back. That's the only way they can beat you,

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Speaker 1: the only way they can beat you.

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Speaker 8: Sure, Jason, you're gonna say something.

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Speaker 7: On the the the the punt blocker side, wasn't the

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Speaker 7: smart play? Just to sit down? Like that was another aspect,

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Speaker 7: Like the only reason they covered, I think is because

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Speaker 7: of the selfish play of the special team selfish.

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Speaker 8: So it wasn't like they would have to kick off

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Speaker 8: back again to the ram.

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Speaker 7: But what if they do like a Leon Webs and

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Speaker 7: run the ball back the.

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Speaker 2: Other Yes, it does open up the possibility of that happening.

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Speaker 8: Sure that I like so much, Like did you pick

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Speaker 8: the rams? Jason? Because I like I think of the

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Speaker 8: same way, Like why not just fall on it? Why

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Speaker 8: not just cover it up and call it good. Uh,

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Speaker 8: the worst possible, but you could suffer a thing man crazy.

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Speaker 1: Worst ever, I'll tell you the worst ever. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the line was, but I'll take the worst

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Speaker 1: last ever.

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Speaker 8: I think the when the team tries to throw a

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Speaker 8: bunch of laterals to try to score, and then the

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Speaker 8: defensive team like picks up the fumble and then runs

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Speaker 8: it back back like that, I think is is the worst.

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Speaker 2: Oh what are the on side kick that they run

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Speaker 2: back for a touchdown?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Cowboys did that last year. Big deal, little dealer,

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Speaker 8: no deal, Doug. Then Mike Gundy says he one hundred

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Speaker 8: percent believes he will be the head coach at Oklahoma

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Speaker 8: State after the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: It's a little deal. I thought he made a mistake

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Speaker 1: Friday night not saying the exact same thing. But I

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Speaker 1: also think that we'll discuss the next hour. People have

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Speaker 1: no idea. You have so many idiots on television on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: like he gutted his staff. They're obviously not playing well.

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Speaker 1: They have a backup quarterback in there, and you know

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Speaker 1: a guy's rightfully embarrassed, but to get rid of him,

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Speaker 1: it's like forty fifty million dollars plus twenty five thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars to build a new roster like it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: They don't have the money. And that same time.

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Speaker 5: Game This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: What did you love from the weekend? What did you

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Speaker 1: hate from the weekend. We'll share with you what we loved.

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Speaker 1: We'll share with you what we hated.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it all. Next to The Doug Gotlieb Show,

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