Speaker 1: Look, man, oh I see you? Why why? And look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, I have
Speaker 1: a discussion topic right off the bat. Can we just
Speaker 1: say what? I can't even venture to guess what topic
Speaker 1: you will bring up. There's so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: You can't get this one crazy week? What because while
Speaker 1: current events are happening as we speak, I'm not bringing
Speaker 1: up a current event. I'm bringing up something so truly
Speaker 1: random and it's gonna rock your absolute boat forget about
Speaker 1: your world in your mind? Do you know who I
Speaker 1: just saw a picture of and I got so horny
Speaker 1: Sean Williams Scott no but close but not Adrian Brody,
Speaker 1: No man. And then that brought me to I don't
Speaker 1: our guest is giving anti energy. But that brought me
Speaker 1: to this, who is the weirdest celebrity that makes you
Speaker 1: horned up? Like the fact that you're like that, like
Speaker 1: when you get horny for them, You're like what? Because
Speaker 1: for me it is Adrian Brodie? Not now, this is
Speaker 1: like an old picture of Adrian Brody when he was
Speaker 1: I guess, like all top, Yeah, I don't know the
Speaker 1: weirdest I don't I don't really go for I don't
Speaker 1: go for weird necessarily if we're just we're does disqualifying sometimes,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean, especially if it's a
Speaker 1: help I guess I mean like most most unusual, like oh,
Speaker 1: I'm funny for him? What a shop? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I think you know what it is. I
Speaker 1: think we as a generation have been either traumatized or
Speaker 1: shaped by or I mean maybe there's they're the same
Speaker 1: thing by like the Tom Green of it all. I
Speaker 1: think Tom really fucked us up. And then only half
Speaker 1: of us love weird and half of us hate it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm in the last. So you think that
Speaker 1: our generation had Tom Green sort of come into the
Speaker 1: cultural an example, I'm not putting the blame on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. That was to Adreen Brodie. Did you
Speaker 1: know one of the people who is never allowed to
Speaker 1: come back to us? And I knew you would say this. Yes,
Speaker 1: he decided to do a Rastafarian intro for the musical guest.
Speaker 1: I forgot who was for, but he dressed in I
Speaker 1: believe it was either Shaggy or Sean Paul. It was
Speaker 1: Sean Paul. Oh, and then he was decided to do
Speaker 1: like dreads and and all that stuff. He said. He said,
Speaker 1: let me come out of appropriate real quick. Listen, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling? Do you do you have jet lag
Speaker 1: from Cromatica. I do have jet leg from Caromatica and
Speaker 1: from landing in the Denver International Airport to see my
Speaker 1: parents and my nieces Nice Slay, and I just have
Speaker 1: to say that, oh my god, this is a crazy week,
Speaker 1: but I would love to get into it with our guests. Honestly,
Speaker 1: did our guest journey to Cromatica? Our guest did journey
Speaker 1: to Kromatica? First of all, Oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be one hell of an app I feel like
Speaker 1: I run into our guests at very faithful moments this year.
Speaker 1: Faithful moments. It's been those sort of moments where like
Speaker 1: you're like lit in the sun and you sort of
Speaker 1: whip around and turn and you see someone else very
Speaker 1: well lit in the sun, and you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just feels so faithful I was, and chances to
Speaker 1: see the giest I think I would love to ask
Speaker 1: our guests about because he has very publicly known opinions
Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift. I don't know if this is the
Speaker 1: platform where he wants he should talk about them, because
Speaker 1: we do have we did somehow, we did somehow pulling
Speaker 1: a swifty listenership, oh for sure, against all odds. And
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't actually want to put him
Speaker 1: in that position, and we might we might just cut
Speaker 1: this out entirely. You know what. Here's here's what I'll
Speaker 1: say about this episode. There's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: opinions stated about the girls because also the readers are
Speaker 1: very the readers are very upset with us that we
Speaker 1: haven't even said the word renaissance on this podcast for
Speaker 1: three weeks in a row, and it must it stopped here. Unique,
Speaker 1: you won't break your soul. Unique, But no one knows.
Speaker 1: The readers don't understand that we actually were waiting for
Speaker 1: the Queen's remix to come out to comment that's remix,
Speaker 1: and we're honestly waiting for the visuals to come out first.
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the realty, is that we want
Speaker 1: the visuals to come out so that we want to
Speaker 1: like actually do a holistic thing about Act one. I
Speaker 1: am so happy to talk about all of the girls
Speaker 1: with our guests. Our guest is, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the girls, really one of the girls really this term
Speaker 1: has been thrown around a little bit. Third host energy.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, third host energy. Not to put the pressure,
Speaker 1: not to put the pressure on the guest. Well, now
Speaker 1: the guest better absolutely fucking bring it because to come
Speaker 1: up here and say third co host energy. And we've
Speaker 1: only been chatting for minutes off Mike because peek behind
Speaker 1: the curtain, we did chat before, chat before in the vestibule.
Speaker 1: I think our guest is at this point a pop
Speaker 1: culture icon. It's true, and someone who someone who you
Speaker 1: see and it's like what you're saying, Like I saw
Speaker 1: him at multiple points this year and it was like
Speaker 1: it was glamorous, was giving, like wait, how did you
Speaker 1: find your lighting? Because because because I turned and I
Speaker 1: see him, I'm like, oh my god. I saw him
Speaker 1: either night at the X and I literally walk in
Speaker 1: to take a little piss and I turned around. I
Speaker 1: whip around and I see our guests just holding court
Speaker 1: but lit in the night in the Williamsburg night, and
Speaker 1: I go, uh, and it was lovely. He did compliment
Speaker 1: my skin. It horse met horse me does step look
Speaker 1: it's because your skin has been looking insane And I've
Speaker 1: actually said it on this podcast. It's it's it's the
Speaker 1: zoom blur, I promise. Except remember last night when we
Speaker 1: before we were going to see Titannique, which I did
Speaker 1: finally bring boone. What do we ever find out what
Speaker 1: that white flaky ship on your skin was? No? No,
Speaker 1: I put on a Joan of Argus face mask. That
Speaker 1: might have been. It was calm, it was kind and
Speaker 1: no I wish, I wish What do you mean you wish? Have?
Speaker 1: You haven't been dragging off? It wouldn't land on my face,
Speaker 1: It wouldn't land on my don't know, then, honey, you're
Speaker 1: not doing drags the guest. Let's bring him the guests.
Speaker 1: What do you say? Roll roll up to roll out, rollout, bowen,
Speaker 1: roll out. Okay, our guest is a legend um. He
Speaker 1: competed on das at the Starrs. He is truly Cheryl
Speaker 1: Burke too, which is like, that's not just competing, that's
Speaker 1: being part of the fabric of the show. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just say that absolutely absolutely, and he is a maybe
Speaker 1: the but one of the Peloton instructors that we love,
Speaker 1: and maybe the but one of iconic, and maybe the
Speaker 1: but one of I think, well, that's not up to us.
Speaker 1: I don't think. But he's the he's the only one
Speaker 1: I really go for. And it's it's really beautiful to
Speaker 1: develop that rapport with something, you know what, it's like
Speaker 1: it's speed dating, and then you always go back to
Speaker 1: the one that you're like, well, no, you took care
Speaker 1: of me since the beginning. You absolutely so anyway, absolutely
Speaker 1: please welcome. All right, I was like, I love the intro.
Speaker 1: That was a very iconic intro. Third host was already
Speaker 1: been throwing around, Wow, I know, so now you better
Speaker 1: come fucking hard with your takes on the girl on
Speaker 1: the girls and like already like I was already nervous
Speaker 1: about today. It's like, you bitches are funny and I
Speaker 1: gotta keep up, Like you know, it's the same. Literally,
Speaker 1: let's level with the reader the listener. We're all a
Speaker 1: little we're giving a little Sunday tired, but we will transcend.
Speaker 1: But we will transcend and there is no pressure. And
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I did not mean to put that
Speaker 1: pressure on any of us to deliver to that. This
Speaker 1: is actually blame my being tired and I want to
Speaker 1: know how everyone feels. Actually, CHROMATICA fucked up my sleep
Speaker 1: because I decided to go hard at CHROMATICA and then
Speaker 1: we really were up past CHROMATICA, because what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do not continue to celebrate the journey. I went
Speaker 1: hard for no literal reason. I went hard for no reason.
Speaker 1: I chose chaos and violence and just I don't know
Speaker 1: why I went there, but I did. I think I
Speaker 1: took your class on the day of the You did
Speaker 1: a class on the day of the show, And then
Speaker 1: I think, or no, but you had you had a
Speaker 1: class in the morning. I had a class at ten am,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get to bed until probably like to.
Speaker 1: But but a bitch is professional and I made it
Speaker 1: and I actually slay the rides, honestly, and they were
Speaker 1: one of some of my best. Here we go, I think,
Speaker 1: I think you've been You've never been better, and I
Speaker 1: think it will it will maintain that way. What I
Speaker 1: really talked about into these holes, I'm like, this is this.
Speaker 1: He will never go back. I'm tired. Okay, Cody, what
Speaker 1: was your grammatical ball experience? Tell us I didn't get
Speaker 1: tickets to like like the day of, so I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for that. I manifested it. That was wonderful. She she
Speaker 1: was in the pit with all the little monsters and
Speaker 1: I in the pit. Yes, damn, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get too close. I've seen I've seen her, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need I need. I don't need gud got
Speaker 1: a spit on me. I needed it. And this actually
Speaker 1: was my first ball. I've seen her randomly at different
Speaker 1: live I actually was Bone and I were Bizarrely somehow
Speaker 1: we ended up at the Gaga and Tony taping, so
Speaker 1: that was the time I've seen her. But she was
Speaker 1: very much giving, Like you know, I kept saying, where
Speaker 1: then is Tony Bennett. He's gonna pop up on that stage,
Speaker 1: like like Michelle out of the Super Bowl. I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, Tony, let's go. Let's go somehow more rock
Speaker 1: study than she. Ever, let's be honest, popped up and
Speaker 1: planted his arm on his hip. That would have been
Speaker 1: so iconic. What what an iconic fag Tony Bennett would
Speaker 1: have proved to be in that moment. But let's be honest,
Speaker 1: Gaga the first four songs was not dancing, and I
Speaker 1: was a little concerned. I was a little concerned. For
Speaker 1: the first four songs she was standing in gorgeous garments
Speaker 1: and on a wall horizontally and I was like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, there's something wrong with the hip, the fiber
Speaker 1: of my aalga. I was like, what's going on? And
Speaker 1: then by fifth song she was really hitting the steps,
Speaker 1: So I was very great by the time Act one started.
Speaker 1: By the time one started, you got you got some steps.
Speaker 1: The dancers were working very hard. The first five songs
Speaker 1: it really war because she was in this basically kinetic
Speaker 1: sculpture up top um, screaming dressed dance while she was
Speaker 1: not moving herself, which is whatever. And then the jaws
Speaker 1: of life came and took her out of the metal
Speaker 1: garment and she finally began to after we were all
Speaker 1: told it was the beginning of Act one. She was
Speaker 1: thrust and we were all thrust into Chromatica itself. Remember
Speaker 1: when we all sort of as an audience were sort
Speaker 1: of staring towards the planet of Chromatica. And then Alice
Speaker 1: started and it was very clear that she did not
Speaker 1: know if her name was ours or not, but she
Speaker 1: was sort of you know what I mean, like the
Speaker 1: narrative had begun. I think she knew so, and my
Speaker 1: my questions were the first four songs like a prelude,
Speaker 1: is that what was going on. I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think I think in the Gaga story structure it
Speaker 1: always goes prelude at one, two, three, four. Yeah. Never
Speaker 1: in the history of opera, of theater of music has
Speaker 1: that ever been the structure. But she invented it. No,
Speaker 1: it made perfect sense in a chromatic It was a
Speaker 1: chromatic in structure. That's why it didn't necessarily quote unquote
Speaker 1: make sense. But emotionally we felt every beat. It really is. Now, Cody,
Speaker 1: what did you think she meant when she said to
Speaker 1: the audience. At one point, she goes to the piano
Speaker 1: and she says, well, first of all, okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's let let's go in order. She
Speaker 1: sings one, and in the sort of rev up to
Speaker 1: the chorus, she screams to us one of her first
Speaker 1: American shows, and she says, this country knows what to
Speaker 1: do in an emergency. Let's go my biggest Let's go.
Speaker 1: Do we though? Do we? She was also very very demanding.
Speaker 1: She was telling us to like dance and jump, and
Speaker 1: like I was like, okay, enough enough, Like I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: Do I need to do more? Right? Mama? I just
Speaker 1: like damn it. I would disagree with statement, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if we do know what to do.
Speaker 1: In egence, we've kind of we've kind of been fumbling
Speaker 1: the ball in the past. This dot an emergency, what
Speaker 1: act even more chaotic? Like CDC says fuck it? This
Speaker 1: because this c d C. I said fuck it because
Speaker 1: like bitch can't even get a monkey. So, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what to do it We share Instagram
Speaker 1: and for graphics. That's all we know how to do anymore. Essentially,
Speaker 1: maybe she still thought she was in Europe and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh funk, I said, I met one of
Speaker 1: the countries I just left my bad girls. Fuck I
Speaker 1: I thought the social safety net here it was different.
Speaker 1: I thought that was something else, okay, And then Cody,
Speaker 1: you remember her saying, because you know what will happen
Speaker 1: when they try to come for gay marriage. You know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. And if they come for gay marriage,
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. When if when? When I
Speaker 1: just remember, literally everyone around me was just blank. It
Speaker 1: was we can't even engage in this one. It to disconnect, baby,
Speaker 1: We don't need to be reminded that it's that is
Speaker 1: going away in a few in a few years and
Speaker 1: were no cheers. So there were no cheers. We were
Speaker 1: like mom must saying, I always remember was this, Will
Speaker 1: you put that foot on that piano and get you
Speaker 1: play the heads? Put the foot on the piano, put
Speaker 1: the fot on the piano. I will say, not having
Speaker 1: been to the other balls, I did leave the concert.
Speaker 1: And mind you, I had true quite the you were
Speaker 1: flipping a little, you were chop at mushrooms. I was
Speaker 1: probably peaking, but I was leaving saying that was the
Speaker 1: best concert of my life. I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the best, but like
Speaker 1: I loved it. Okay, we we we we played this
Speaker 1: game and it wasn't a game. But we asked everybody
Speaker 1: in the car this on the way home. First concert,
Speaker 1: favorite concert? Oh, okay you because I think I think
Speaker 1: this is this is so instructive about Cody. I think
Speaker 1: if you learn this about Cody, I think it'll tell
Speaker 1: us a lot. And I know what is what is yours?
Speaker 1: I know mine first concert ever? I think Aerosmith with
Speaker 1: my mom, that's actually a good one. That's solid. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's giving, it's giving, drag, it's giving followed by Twain,
Speaker 1: so that that was a good second one and man,
Speaker 1: I felt like a woman and best concert. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: chromatical Ball wasn't then what was Beyonce's formation. I honestly
Speaker 1: like lost my ship and I didn't have I had
Speaker 1: like seats in the bleachers or whatever they called it.
Speaker 1: And I'm actually glad that I did, because I got
Speaker 1: the entire visual art direction and I ate it up.
Speaker 1: So you were at City Field, Yes, I was also
Speaker 1: at City Field, me Sudie and Henry and my boyfriend
Speaker 1: at the time. We were in the last row in
Speaker 1: the bleachers, last row up against the fence, like if
Speaker 1: there wasn't offense, we would have fallen down. We were
Speaker 1: by home plate, we were by home baker with baseball um.
Speaker 1: But you were close, we were kind of, but we
Speaker 1: were on the total opposite end of this age. So
Speaker 1: like we were like technically like in the good seat,
Speaker 1: like if it were a baseball game, a good seat.
Speaker 1: But you're right, I am glad I got to see
Speaker 1: the whole Like everything about that spinning cube was fucking
Speaker 1: crazy to me. And then remember she did it was
Speaker 1: like right after Prince passed away, and then she did
Speaker 1: purple rain. It was unbelievable. Can I add another concert?
Speaker 1: Yea Spice Girls Reunion tour. I lost my entire ship.
Speaker 1: I saw it twice because I saw it. This is
Speaker 1: when I lived in North Carolina. I saw it in
Speaker 1: d C. And my seats were horrendous, so I had
Speaker 1: to see it much closer. So I went again and
Speaker 1: I put it on my AMEX and I probably didn't
Speaker 1: pay it off until probably eight years later or so.
Speaker 1: You know what was that like two thousand? No, that
Speaker 1: when was or seven something like that. Yep, I remember
Speaker 1: that because I remember I remember remember when they did
Speaker 1: that documentary called Boys Fate. Remember when they did that
Speaker 1: documentary where it was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: five hour long documentary. I was at Boys State when
Speaker 1: the Spice Girls announced they were going to do that tour,
Speaker 1: and I've never felt like more of a fagot than
Speaker 1: in that moment. I was just like I was around
Speaker 1: all like these military military boys, like, well, the Spice
Speaker 1: Girls are coming back, and they were like get out
Speaker 1: of yeah, you know, you were the only one and
Speaker 1: it wasn't get out of here, like like get out
Speaker 1: of here. I was like, actually, ejectively, um, did you
Speaker 1: watch the Shania Twain documentary on Netflix. It's not watched. Watch.
Speaker 1: She's been through it. She's been to Helen back. I
Speaker 1: mean the whole ship about her husband cheating on her
Speaker 1: like with their friend, and her losing her voice because
Speaker 1: of the trauma of that and then having to relearn
Speaker 1: how to sing. It's really crazy either oh yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: she she like lost the ability to sing because largely
Speaker 1: because she was so traumatized by her divorce, and then
Speaker 1: she got ill and then she lost the ability to
Speaker 1: and had to relearn how to sing. It was like, okay,
Speaker 1: not to bring in this like different current event, but
Speaker 1: why is this theme through the decades up and down
Speaker 1: like the spectrum of success? Like why is it that,
Speaker 1: like our most talented female singers and songwriters get cheated
Speaker 1: on by their husbands and then they are like fully,
Speaker 1: they're the ones who somehow suffered the most. Like the
Speaker 1: Michelle Branch news is driving me believe it. I have
Speaker 1: a controversial take on it, which is the fact that
Speaker 1: he called do you know what happened with Michelle? I'm
Speaker 1: just gag that you're still following Michelle Branch but live
Speaker 1: She's okay, no, no, I never stopped and how dare you?
Speaker 1: It's truly okay. So basically for for readers, Michelle Branch
Speaker 1: was arrested for domestic for domestic violence on Thursday morning,
Speaker 1: and it was because she found out that her husband,
Speaker 1: the drummer for the Black Keys, which I didn't even
Speaker 1: know still existed after two thousand five, cheated on her
Speaker 1: while she was at home with the baby with a
Speaker 1: six month old. Yeah, and so she slapped him twice,
Speaker 1: but when the cops showed up, there were no visible
Speaker 1: and not that this like justifies the sort of idea
Speaker 1: the concept of like domestic abuse or physical violence. Is
Speaker 1: your controversial take map that like he's a fucking idiot
Speaker 1: he thought. My controversial take is that he is a
Speaker 1: he he is a complete loser who ruined this woman's life.
Speaker 1: And then he comes home, it takes two slaps to
Speaker 1: the face and then calls the police. So then now
Speaker 1: she gets arrested. And now because they're going to have
Speaker 1: a divorce, now she has an arrest record for domestic violence.
Speaker 1: Went and like it's gonna probably like affect like maybe
Speaker 1: even custody because he called the police on his small
Speaker 1: life who slapped him a couple of times. Because he
Speaker 1: humiliated her and broke her completely. I called bullshit on
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, period, be bothered to learn his name anyway, Sorry, Cody,
Speaker 1: We're just we're we haven't we haven't unloaded on this,
Speaker 1: we haven't downloaded each other on this on our reactions.
Speaker 1: I just looked him up and he's just not cute.
Speaker 1: So they never are. No drummer is going to be cute.
Speaker 1: That's no drummer is gonna be But I don't care
Speaker 1: ahead think what you want to think. I just think
Speaker 1: she's so beautiful. She is a beautiful star. Every picture
Speaker 1: that's in this new speed just looks like she's taking
Speaker 1: a picture with a fan of them. Yeah. Now here's
Speaker 1: me and my full on douchebag husband. We support Michelle,
Speaker 1: we love Michelle. Yeah, but that was not that was
Speaker 1: not a fun thing to hear about at all. But
Speaker 1: I think also the fact is like these these women,
Speaker 1: like they marry these guys and they can't handle having
Speaker 1: like I don't think they can handle having a dynamic wife.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like even like Shania, like like Robert
Speaker 1: mutt Lange was the name of her husband, and he
Speaker 1: like Robert Mutlin, Yeah, who I think was also something
Speaker 1: he was like a genius musician, but and like actually
Speaker 1: revolutionized her career, like her like second country album that
Speaker 1: came out before Come On Over, like he jumped on
Speaker 1: at the documentary talks about this, and it like he
Speaker 1: was like a rock musician. So he made her country
Speaker 1: songs like pop and he did like um any Man
Speaker 1: of Mine and like all her like big country hits
Speaker 1: because the first album was like sort of successful, like
Speaker 1: not as huge as her other ones. And then Come
Speaker 1: On Over still to this day is the biggest selling
Speaker 1: female album of all time. Still to this day, any
Speaker 1: genre and genre is the best selling album by a
Speaker 1: woman ever. That's that's history. That's not like Whitney speaking up.
Speaker 1: Not Whitney, not Adele, not like any of any of
Speaker 1: like the the more crossover people. That was the crossover album.
Speaker 1: I mean come on Over, like I mean our own
Speaker 1: Cody Rigsby went to the concert. He probably saw all
Speaker 1: types of folks. I can barely remember. It was also
Speaker 1: like the era of like the height of people buying music.
Speaker 1: Because a little bit after that, which is when I'm
Speaker 1: buying music. Napster, Baby Napster ended that quick Napster said,
Speaker 1: taking you out back music industry shot to the head.
Speaker 1: My first concert was Mariah Carey, and my best concert
Speaker 1: was I think it was Beyonce, but it wasn't Formation.
Speaker 1: It was when I saw her do four at Roseland Volumes.
Speaker 1: She did four shows at Roseland and it was absolutely
Speaker 1: insane watching her perform for Live, like newly, like free
Speaker 1: of Matthew, like she he wasn't managing her anymore. She
Speaker 1: did that fucking incredible album, and then watching her just
Speaker 1: tear it up. And then the real gag was about
Speaker 1: month and a half. Two months later was the VMA's
Speaker 1: where she revealed she was pregnant when she sang Love
Speaker 1: on Top and then dropped the mic and revealed her
Speaker 1: baby bump, and I was bump, Okay, we have a
Speaker 1: truth here. You know this is nice. That is what
Speaker 1: it's giving Third Colors energy because we meet something coming
Speaker 1: with the controversy. I've seen the video and that bump
Speaker 1: it does, the bump folded, folded, it folded. I saw
Speaker 1: with my very own eyes. Is mad at you. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's one group of fans that you don't want
Speaker 1: mad at you. It is the bee, the beehive. And
Speaker 1: of course Teresa Judaic is tree huggers. There are the
Speaker 1: beehive of the housewives community. That's a real culture, number
Speaker 1: forty four the community, and they're all they're militant right
Speaker 1: now as well, I go tell us mine. My first
Speaker 1: one was Imagine Heat, which I was telling that I
Speaker 1: used to think was like not a cool because Okay,
Speaker 1: my parents didn't really like let me go to like
Speaker 1: concerts when I was growing up, Like they wouldn't know
Speaker 1: what's like take me to. So it wasn't until high
Speaker 1: school and like I had my own money to spend that,
Speaker 1: like all of our friends in drama club, We're going
Speaker 1: to Imagine and Heat. And then I was like it
Speaker 1: was an amazing show and it was into my space,
Speaker 1: so you know. One this was after the Tonic MySpace
Speaker 1: Iconic didn't have that. I'd like to meet someone who
Speaker 1: did not have that as their space song at one point,
Speaker 1: at one point thinking that you were so unique. Well,
Speaker 1: that was the trap of indie music at that time,
Speaker 1: was that everyone thought they were being so like crate
Speaker 1: diggye underground, Like oh, I really like dug this out
Speaker 1: of a record shop and it's like, no, every fucking
Speaker 1: fourteen year old in the country house this because we're
Speaker 1: all watching the C. I only made it past the
Speaker 1: first season of The o C. Well, it went off
Speaker 1: a cliff after the first season. I think I didn't
Speaker 1: miss much that, okay, but you did sort of miss
Speaker 1: some camp when Mischa Barton threw that pool chair into
Speaker 1: the pool. It was the first season. It was Oliver trash.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oliver was the best arc of television history.
Speaker 1: Oliver on the o C when he had a gun,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and that was terrible. And we've talked
Speaker 1: about how samayor Armstrong, who played um, what's her face
Speaker 1: like Anna? That's the long triangle between Rachel Bilson, Adam
Speaker 1: Brody No, no no, Adam Brodie and not Adrian. Can I
Speaker 1: just tell you I cringed at that because I had
Speaker 1: a like one of my first boyfriends kind of looked
Speaker 1: like Adrian Brodie, so like I could never go I
Speaker 1: just like I can't. I completely disagree. But anyway, but
Speaker 1: on what happened with samar we know what happened, but
Speaker 1: what happened to all the readers, she's like full Q
Speaker 1: and on now I think she's it's actually a really
Speaker 1: culture at number ten Strong Mom's cute, but then the best.
Speaker 1: But I will say about Image and like, oh that
Speaker 1: is now like like they did a hold right up
Speaker 1: about this where it's like she has influenced everybody now
Speaker 1: where Casey Musgraves when right when she wrote Golden Hour
Speaker 1: was like, what would it sound like if Image and
Speaker 1: he made a country album. That's what I want this
Speaker 1: album to sound like. Yeah, that makes sense, Ariana Grande
Speaker 1: doing like like full on covers um we said, Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: I mean you could argue that Delicate is like entirely
Speaker 1: a call back to something like that into Cody. Is
Speaker 1: there a way that we can convince you that, like
Speaker 1: there's good Taylor stuff is what's what? What's your? We
Speaker 1: don't have to get into it if you don't want
Speaker 1: to break it down for us, Mama fish Okay, So
Speaker 1: it's a theme. So I had a boyfriend in college,
Speaker 1: so I really, I really, I really liked like like
Speaker 1: tear drops in the guitar to mcgral with what was
Speaker 1: like the really breakthrough album which we belong together, Fearless
Speaker 1: was solid, and then what was that afterward? What was
Speaker 1: after that? Speak now which people speak now, which is
Speaker 1: probably know all three of those albums, and this is
Speaker 1: Nick this is the lost culture, says exclusive. I've never
Speaker 1: said that before. Okay, okay, you actually know you know
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift fear list and speak now he's book off
Speaker 1: book off the record anyway, on the record, on the record, uh,
Speaker 1: on the record title of app. I just like I
Speaker 1: can't relate like she dances like this is a getty noodle,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't think she's a good person, Like
Speaker 1: I just don't see it for her. Okay, Okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, This is totally shout out to everybody that
Speaker 1: likes Taylor Taylor Swift, like you know, like enjoy your
Speaker 1: enjoy your life. I do enjoy my life very much,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. And so I would say the
Speaker 1: thing about Taylor is I've actually noticed that sometimes people
Speaker 1: criticize me and Bowen for being so pro Taylor because
Speaker 1: there was an era of this podcast. And this is
Speaker 1: true and we're just gonna come clean about it. There
Speaker 1: was an era of this podcast that was not pro Taylor,
Speaker 1: and it it proceeded I believe when was no, it
Speaker 1: was not. It was like it was like around like
Speaker 1: the when Taylor became so Taylor that like when she
Speaker 1: did get brought down a peg by and Kim and
Speaker 1: by a peg, I mean almost entirely. It was when
Speaker 1: people were sort of like not happy to see her fail,
Speaker 1: but like they weren't concerned about her, like like, oh no,
Speaker 1: our faith. It was like there were people that were
Speaker 1: sort of snickering at the fact that, like she was,
Speaker 1: she was revealed as being you know, un calculated quote
Speaker 1: unquote person Cody. But so I was just calculation. For me,
Speaker 1: everything is calculated, That's what I'm saying, Like, why are
Speaker 1: you up front? You're you're the front row of every
Speaker 1: show with a new best friend, and you're dancing and
Speaker 1: at the moment that the camera hits you, you know
Speaker 1: exactly when to have fun and dance. They probably don't
Speaker 1: even follow each other on Instagram. She probably doesn't even
Speaker 1: have this girl's phone number, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like she's there with Selena Gomez and probably doesn't even
Speaker 1: have her phone number saved in her phone, do you you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was the most transparent when
Speaker 1: she did have all of like the season eleven girls
Speaker 1: of Drag Race with her at the v Amaze and
Speaker 1: it's like you've never you probably I don't think you've
Speaker 1: watched an episode of this show except for maybe j
Speaker 1: Jolie doing you on Snatch Game, but otherwise, like I think,
Speaker 1: like in the in the package of clips you got like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you have a full to full context
Speaker 1: for like who like you know, fucking like Rajo'harra is
Speaker 1: like and and she never was very vocal about anything
Speaker 1: gay for until Yeah. Well she discusses that in the documentary,
Speaker 1: the Miss Americana Documentary, where she's like she felt she
Speaker 1: couldn't be and I think that is when she was
Speaker 1: peak annoying. Was when she was the most famous pop
Speaker 1: star in the world, when she was in her apex
Speaker 1: With album and like the world started to burn around
Speaker 1: her and it felt like she wasn't doing anything about
Speaker 1: it when other people were and like maybe suffering for it.
Speaker 1: When it felt like she was like the capitalist pop star,
Speaker 1: like and you know, the short little blond Bob, the supermodels,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That is when the Collie
Speaker 1: class of it all. That is when I think, but
Speaker 1: we're like not this And then when that all came
Speaker 1: tumbling down. I think then she was like I can
Speaker 1: say we were back on the up and up because
Speaker 1: I think she did get oversaturated, and I think that
Speaker 1: we are guilty of not being like Ride or Die
Speaker 1: tailor throughout every era that I mean, We're just gonna
Speaker 1: be transparent about it. Totally, totally, totally, but we're we
Speaker 1: love her. A great businesswoman, a great businesswoman, you know,
Speaker 1: like I will respect I do respect the check, so
Speaker 1: you know, respect the check and even be doing the
Speaker 1: album so she's getting more checks, like congratulations, we thoroughly
Speaker 1: stan okay, period, But then she comes out in her
Speaker 1: private jets. Yeah but not the third co host. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sitment myself over here and uh yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I feel that I feel like I really
Speaker 1: back to Cody into a corner with that. It's the
Speaker 1: third okay, okay, okay, okay, but I just people are
Speaker 1: gonna be ad, but it's okay. I live, I I
Speaker 1: stand in my truth. I said everything that I said
Speaker 1: with my full chest, and that's okay. Yes, you do
Speaker 1: speak from the chest. You you come out with some
Speaker 1: takes in class, and you do seem to have like
Speaker 1: a good, emotionally mature response to all of them. Suld
Speaker 1: you get some unhinged response based on the smallest things
Speaker 1: you say when you're on camera. Yeah, And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's like part of that's like half of the
Speaker 1: job in a way, is like knowing how to like
Speaker 1: handle yourself when you have to like notice speak to
Speaker 1: like moms and you know, like the suburbs and like
Speaker 1: fags in the city and like everyone in between. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's a it's it's it's like a really trippy thing.
Speaker 1: And I can't say I can relate because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a very specific thing in terms of like
Speaker 1: the fitness space where it's like you really have to
Speaker 1: like present yourself as like this very like um understandable person.
Speaker 1: Does that makes end? Yeah? I think I I love
Speaker 1: that I get to like bring people like, you know,
Speaker 1: bring people into it and like, yeah, the suburban housewives
Speaker 1: that don't have a gay friend, like they're they're they're
Speaker 1: getting into the culture, you know, like they allow themselves
Speaker 1: to kind of like feel the fantasy for a little bit.
Speaker 1: And why not we? I mean, are we say that
Speaker 1: our our our listener is a woman named Katie who's
Speaker 1: who works in who She's a communications major who lives
Speaker 1: outside of Chicago. Was what I say? I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you, out of ten, how many people that say
Speaker 1: they love what you do are named Katie? Like, out
Speaker 1: of ten, would you say for me? It's like say
Speaker 1: get six for all of us. In fact, literally the
Speaker 1: other night Bowen, when we were leaving, the girl girl
Speaker 1: came up and I always asked whenever anyone's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, like I just wanted to say hi.
Speaker 1: I always say I always ask what their name is,
Speaker 1: and this girl said Katie. And I don't even react anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Katie, it was so nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: Like they're they're so many, it's an army of Katie's.
Speaker 1: We need to stop calling them the readers and call
Speaker 1: them the Katie Katie like period Like, if you're, if you've,
Speaker 1: if you've previously been a reader of this podcast, you
Speaker 1: are like and that's what we call our bee hive.
Speaker 1: You are now the Katie's. This is the Katie era.
Speaker 1: This is the Katie era, of of of of lost culture.
Speaker 1: I was speaking of which Toody recently went to go
Speaker 1: see Katie and Vegas right good was that I got
Speaker 1: my life? Bitch. It's hit after hit after hit after
Speaker 1: after you know the words, you know, everyone's every fu song,
Speaker 1: she's giving you camp, she's giving you theatrics. It was
Speaker 1: so good. I'm so glad it went. And that was
Speaker 1: literally twenty four hour trip because that was the only
Speaker 1: reason I was going to Vegas. It's the only way
Speaker 1: you can do Vegas. That we just went for my birthday.
Speaker 1: Phone didn't get to come. The straight community loves Vegas.
Speaker 1: The straight loves Vegas. It's their fire island. I mean
Speaker 1: in a but it's so fun. I I do love
Speaker 1: a good hard like almost forty eight hours in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I do because you do always do something stupid, and
Speaker 1: you do always remember. I remember all the stupid should
Speaker 1: I do well? Remember slash happily don't like remember all
Speaker 1: the stuff that has happened in Vegas. And I do
Speaker 1: believe it stays in Vegas, thank God. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: dark sided. It's not Christian, like just keep it there.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not Christian. Oh no, it's the least Christian
Speaker 1: city I went to. That's not even a real culture.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a rule of life, like in like
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Las Vegas is not not Christian. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think the girls are all gonna are all ending
Speaker 1: up there are making pit stops there and it's like
Speaker 1: we keep going because that's where the girls are. Well,
Speaker 1: I need to reschedule, is Kelly. I know, Adel just
Speaker 1: rescheduled her her the guest residency, but the Vegas regular
Speaker 1: residency that was canceled that was starting on April Fools
Speaker 1: Day twenty that was canceled was Kelly Clarkson, who, of
Speaker 1: course is my number one. I'm a big fan, Hue.
Speaker 1: I saw you on Kelly. You guys had a lovely time.
Speaker 1: She was lovely, but she was quick, honey. She that
Speaker 1: was a well oiled machine. It was in and out.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's go. They give you a record?
Speaker 1: Did they? Did they give you a record? A vinyl?
Speaker 1: As part of your game? Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation. That's
Speaker 1: a really good one. That's a really good one. They
Speaker 1: gave me not one that matches me, which makes me
Speaker 1: think that like it's they just pick it out of
Speaker 1: a box. What did she give you? What? For people
Speaker 1: at home? For the Katie's at Home listening, Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 1: gives all of her guests a vinyl as a gift,
Speaker 1: and she personal as beautiful gift beautiful. She personally picks
Speaker 1: it out like she actually got for Joel Kim Booster.
Speaker 1: She gave him the back to Basics Christina Aguilera vinyl,
Speaker 1: which is a cool Yeah. I don't know that she
Speaker 1: does pick it up because do you guys want to
Speaker 1: guess what she me? No, we don't want to guess. Okay.
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen's greatest hits m Homophone, maybe maybe I love
Speaker 1: I love Bruce Springsteen, Electory Chair. She thought he's Mikey Day.
Speaker 1: She thought you were a Mikey Days greams. Bruce Springsteen
Speaker 1: also got talking about Bruce Springsteen. I am proud of
Speaker 1: her for knowing that she was in Jersey. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like it was She's very conflicted. Did she
Speaker 1: say she's in Jersey? She's in New York? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's the thing with MetLife Stadium
Speaker 1: because when we saw Taylor again, like and I have
Speaker 1: to say, I want to stress like Taylor is the
Speaker 1: majority of music that I listened to. I do love Taylor.
Speaker 1: You guys know, I love Taylor. The majority of the
Speaker 1: music that you listen to. You I wish it was
Speaker 1: not because Cody. There's because there's variety, there's you're you're
Speaker 1: you're getting a different, a different fantasy with Okay, you've
Speaker 1: got pop, you've got country, you've got country crossover, you've
Speaker 1: got folkey music. You've got I think that's about it.
Speaker 1: End game. You have absolute gangster rap. But she Taylor
Speaker 1: said she will try it. Though she will try, she
Speaker 1: kept talking about like I love Jersey, like it's so
Speaker 1: amazing to be in Jersey tonight, Like how's it going Jersey?
Speaker 1: And we were like god, like we're in New York.
Speaker 1: And then as I think she did toss off, she
Speaker 1: did at some point be like she was like, no,
Speaker 1: Wholier came in from New York tonight and everybody, I
Speaker 1: will Okay, I will get credit to Taylor. This is
Speaker 1: what I want. What I wanted more of CHROMATICA. I
Speaker 1: wanted more production value. I needed like a little bit
Speaker 1: more production value. And Taylor had a like snake coming
Speaker 1: out of Goddamn wasn't an incredible concert. You can watch
Speaker 1: it on Netflix. I'll pass. But you know, watched that
Speaker 1: and I remember she's trying to be a pop star.
Speaker 1: It's just like, no, girl, that not your lane. That's
Speaker 1: like you you like it? When she was Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: with a hard R and a hard team, and not
Speaker 1: when she's Taylor Swift with a very loose a and
Speaker 1: a and because she's a player. You know, Yeah, katie's're
Speaker 1: bringing back the word player, like hate player, player. I
Speaker 1: wish I would date that guy, but I know he's
Speaker 1: a player. He's a player. Okay, put it. Put a
Speaker 1: pin in that well. Okay, So she did put out
Speaker 1: um in response to the three l W lawsuit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: issuing her for potentially stealing the lyrics. Players are gonna
Speaker 1: play hate. It's gonna hate for schack it off. Good
Speaker 1: for them. They need a check. I'm all about and
Speaker 1: I'm all about chasing a check. So get her. Absolutely
Speaker 1: get her. She might have to take one or two
Speaker 1: less private planes a month. Give her to get her.
Speaker 1: Every plane, by the way, every plane flying over at,
Speaker 1: every plane plant fling over, met Life Stadio, every fagon
Speaker 1: in that seae was like, oh, look, Taylor Swift. But
Speaker 1: if Taylor has put out Steven saying that she has
Speaker 1: never heard of the of the group three ill W
Speaker 1: or the song players go and play, which is ridiculous,
Speaker 1: which that is not true, Tay, come on and that's
Speaker 1: when I that's when I can't fully like support it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, like you can't like that was that
Speaker 1: was Radio Disney. That was all over Radio Disney. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're listening to that everything face
Speaker 1: with that. No, No, she has heard players they're gonna pay.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I hope this. She throes Adrian
Speaker 1: Bailon Howton some check because we know the Real is canceled.
Speaker 1: The Real is canceled. It's too bad. But I can
Speaker 1: also understand that Cody, Cody's sort of approach to Taylor
Speaker 1: is informed by this, you know this ax that is
Speaker 1: emotionally a little prickly because you you'll think of him
Speaker 1: if you was in the Taylor, you're a broken heart
Speaker 1: that so long ago. It's so long ago. But I know, No,
Speaker 1: you don't seem like you. You seem really raw. No,
Speaker 1: not what was he like? What was it fun? I
Speaker 1: was like it was like nineteen like we didn't. You
Speaker 1: never forget that one. You never forget never, never never. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to ask Tody the question. Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I just want to say
Speaker 1: before we ask the question and spin off, we do
Speaker 1: have to give renaissance thoughts because here we are, we've
Speaker 1: talked about all the girls, and we have to give
Speaker 1: renaissance thoughts. So let's just say, what are your unique
Speaker 1: thoughts about renaissance? What are your thoughts No one else
Speaker 1: has go that no one else has well because they've
Speaker 1: heard the Katies, ever heard all the other takes, Yes,
Speaker 1: Coaches coming in hot almost a month late. My my
Speaker 1: unique thought, my unique thought is to listen to it
Speaker 1: on a plane the next time you're gonna plane Katie's
Speaker 1: You're Gonna, You're gonna. It's like watching a movie on
Speaker 1: a plane. It's like you're really going to be hit
Speaker 1: in a different way, in a more impactful way. It
Speaker 1: really opened up the rest of the album for me,
Speaker 1: like like I was more like I was more of
Speaker 1: a back half girl. And then on this flight recently,
Speaker 1: I was listening to the front half and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this whole thing is incredible. You were
Speaker 1: you didn't the front half didn't hit for you at
Speaker 1: the jump because like fit and comfit. By the way,
Speaker 1: when when Lizzo heard Coffett, she was shaking in her boots.
Speaker 1: When Lizzo heard that song, it's a very Lizzo track.
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. It's a it's it's a Lizzo
Speaker 1: s track. It's a Lizzos track. And there is this conspiracy,
Speaker 1: not a conspiracy, but there's a theory that Beyonce does
Speaker 1: not like Lizzo. Oh wow, well why because she wasn't
Speaker 1: mentioned in the I think I think now all of
Speaker 1: the wasn't she wasn't she mentioned in that. She was
Speaker 1: not in the Queen's Rex. Lizza was not mentioned in
Speaker 1: the Queen's Remax. Also missing is Mariah I'll say that
Speaker 1: and Brandy Brandy and Becca producer Becca says, but she
Speaker 1: did give Lizzo a birthday post. Okay, so all mind
Speaker 1: because I wanted it to not be true. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for disproving alright, so that I still
Speaker 1: want to know. I also want to know why the
Speaker 1: track America has a Problem is not political at all.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be very political, and
Speaker 1: it's it's not. It's note I'm obsessed with the fact
Speaker 1: that it's called America has a Problem and everyone was
Speaker 1: like cracking their knuckles getting ready for that, and then
Speaker 1: it's just about more about her. Fucking I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: She's like, and I thought, my husband like this too,
Speaker 1: by the way, and it's like, but America has a America.
Speaker 1: I thought America had a problem and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a discourse about it. What happened. We would talk about
Speaker 1: how America had a problem. Thought Beyonce was going to
Speaker 1: help solve the problem. But now she was like, nope.
Speaker 1: Sometimes beyond Beyonce gets it from the back from Jay
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, okay, well that colors in
Speaker 1: some lines at least. I mean, jay Z definitely got
Speaker 1: a break on this album because I want to worried
Speaker 1: about the man the booty gonna do what it wants to. Okay.
Speaker 1: I would say my unique thoughts about Renaissance are that
Speaker 1: it is the album of the year. Obviously that's not
Speaker 1: a unique thought, but I would say that won't won
Speaker 1: just like like, if it doesn't, I will protest. I
Speaker 1: will take to the streets with the fervor of any
Speaker 1: other issue. America has a problem, and honestly, America will
Speaker 1: have a major problem, and I will be the same
Speaker 1: shouting it from the rooftops, and it won't be about
Speaker 1: high got it in my butt. It will be about
Speaker 1: how Beyonce doesn't have an Album of the Year Grammy
Speaker 1: after this year, it must happen. It does seem like
Speaker 1: there's going to be two more chances, this being an
Speaker 1: act one of three. But I hope that they don't, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Lord of the Rings, this ship and wait
Speaker 1: till the last one to give it the big award,
Speaker 1: because we must award Beyonce now like do it in
Speaker 1: the now like award these people now say to the
Speaker 1: talented people of now, we recognize your talented now. Don't
Speaker 1: let it be like an Haiti who We're only saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know she was a good actress after she's tragically passed.
Speaker 1: And I'll get to that in my I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: But back to my unique thoughts on Renaissance. I believe that, yes,
Speaker 1: it is like a cohesive album, like you can listen
Speaker 1: to it through and think, wow, I got my life.
Speaker 1: There is a standout track. It is only in Superstar
Speaker 1: and I think it has risen to the top and
Speaker 1: I think we can't deny that. No, that that's undeniable.
Speaker 1: It is. It is the song. You guys think it's
Speaker 1: the song, Well, now that the break my soul Queen's
Speaker 1: remix came out. I think that's the song, and I
Speaker 1: think it's like I just think it's watershed. But like
Speaker 1: Alien Superstar, I mean, Virgo's groove got a lot of
Speaker 1: attention off the top, and I totally agreed with that.
Speaker 1: I do love Summer Renaissance. I love the Donna Summer sample.
Speaker 1: I think that's like, really, you don't Cody, you don't
Speaker 1: stand somewhere. It's fair. Look, I I'm just appreciated that
Speaker 1: it's a body of work because people don't make a
Speaker 1: body of work to be People don't make a body
Speaker 1: of work anymore, and I appreciate a body of work
Speaker 1: that I can listen to from front to back. Summer
Speaker 1: Renaissance is solid. I like it. By that, I guess
Speaker 1: like it's by that it's time. You're like, okay, I've
Speaker 1: I've heard the album, yeah, but I have not stopped
Speaker 1: listening to an album like, Okay, what's your unique thought?
Speaker 1: I told you? But wait, what was that? America has
Speaker 1: a problem is not political? Im guy's a problem is
Speaker 1: not political? Right right right right right right right in
Speaker 1: this moment in American history. To not be political in
Speaker 1: America has a problem. Beyonce, We're looking at you with
Speaker 1: an awkward eye, but also always satiated by you telling
Speaker 1: us how you're getting it. This is a hot take
Speaker 1: it up, but I feel like I'm gonna I just question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Beyonce is using the queer culture, but what she about
Speaker 1: the queer culture until this album came out? So it's funny.
Speaker 1: I'm just it's just Devil's advocate, like in a statement,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking a question. Damn, I'm loving this was Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Like last year in Pride, everyone's like, Beyonce is coming
Speaker 1: to this dingy Brooklyn club and everyone's got to be there.
Speaker 1: She did not come, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it was like her team was there or whatever. The funk?
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, but whatever, But I'm like, so so Becca.
Speaker 1: Becca has announced in the in the in the chat
Speaker 1: that she is of beehive and now she I can
Speaker 1: feel her rage. So this album is dedicated to her
Speaker 1: gay uncle, and there's a speech she gave attributing him
Speaker 1: the community. Yes we know all about uncle Johnny. Awards, Yes,
Speaker 1: the GLAD Awards, and she was she was a ordered
Speaker 1: with a GLAD Award and she gave a very emotional
Speaker 1: speech about Uncle Johnny and Uncle Johnny's in the liner notes, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And take the floor. Well, I think Matt and I
Speaker 1: both chuckle anytime we think about the fact that before
Speaker 1: even before this album came in, anytime you think about
Speaker 1: the fact that after Brittany Madonna kissed the v m as,
Speaker 1: her response to the media was that she was disgusted.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that she was discussing the homost
Speaker 1: sexuality of its famously a Christian girl, she's a Christian girl,
Speaker 1: but I think she was. She's a church girl. She's
Speaker 1: a church girl. Don't hurt nobody, but she I think
Speaker 1: she We can't quite pinpoint. Yeah, Okay, Becka says, you're
Speaker 1: not wrong there. Okay, So we have be high confirming this,
Speaker 1: and we are, of course be high as well firmly,
Speaker 1: firmly firm bestate life formation. Okay. And it's interesting that
Speaker 1: you bring this up because I was at up how
Speaker 1: I was in North Carolina all places, working this job,
Speaker 1: and I he's working with a bunch of heteroes and
Speaker 1: they were like the straight community. The straight community was
Speaker 1: like as a little confused by it because they're like
Speaker 1: and then one person even said, it sounds like she's
Speaker 1: like using lingo. That's like that just doesn't sound right
Speaker 1: on her, And I'm like, oh, that's definitely not true.
Speaker 1: It's not that it doesn't sound right on her. It's
Speaker 1: like she like she's representing a community that invented the lingo.
Speaker 1: I have to say, completely insane for straight people to
Speaker 1: say this lingo doesn't sound They cannot be the ones
Speaker 1: to say that, like jail time for them. I think
Speaker 1: it's just that like electric chair, Literally, I think it's
Speaker 1: an adjustment. I think, like I think that we just
Speaker 1: we we are not used to Beyonce being this like
Speaker 1: direct and faggoty exactly. You get the sense that, like
Speaker 1: so many of these pop stars know and make it
Speaker 1: a part of their thing that they are gay icons,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like Lady Gaga's allish up
Speaker 1: to the queer community is so intrinsic in what she does,
Speaker 1: and like it feels like in terms of the queer
Speaker 1: community and in terms of being a queer icon, which
Speaker 1: Beyonce so undoubtedly is. It never seemed top of mind
Speaker 1: for her. Only seemed like recently that she's even really
Speaker 1: publicly acknowledged her uncle Johnny who were now to believe
Speaker 1: was like a major influence on her, and it just
Speaker 1: seems like maybe this was a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a struggle in her growing up and in her maturity
Speaker 1: than it was for her peers that are like major
Speaker 1: pop stars who have been like unabashed about being queer
Speaker 1: icons and olice to the queer community. Because while I'm
Speaker 1: like not doubting it at all, and this is like
Speaker 1: an extremely like lived in, like experiential piece of work
Speaker 1: that she's made, it just seems like she's never been
Speaker 1: out here being like, hey gay is okay? Doja cat?
Speaker 1: She didn't even make a no hate picture in the
Speaker 1: early two thousand oh Wait and they come after game.
Speaker 1: We're teasing, were cheasing, we're teasing. But if they if
Speaker 1: they if Daga says, if they don't, if they come
Speaker 1: from gay marriage, then Beyonce will doing no hate, thank god,
Speaker 1: And then we're then where's pull up and that's lock up.
Speaker 1: But you're right, Matt, I think like this is speaking
Speaker 1: to like the fact that she has had to maybe
Speaker 1: catch up on a lot of things, especially after you
Speaker 1: pointed out like after she dropped her father, after Matthew
Speaker 1: Knowles was out of the picture in the business side
Speaker 1: of things, she was able to be like right from
Speaker 1: performed from a more liberated place. Yeah, be like this
Speaker 1: fucking doll for someone else. And I think, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is probably just a journey for her, like like
Speaker 1: her awareness what's up? But even like the form formation
Speaker 1: Arrow was like the I'm not not the first time,
Speaker 1: but like where she was very liberated in her blackness
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, Like, also do this
Speaker 1: like the album after maybe of course, of course, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that like she she always was, but I
Speaker 1: think that there was like an immediacy to it which
Speaker 1: was like very very important to the moment. And I think,
Speaker 1: like it's this thing, like we said with Taylor, like
Speaker 1: it's like you we do look to these people to
Speaker 1: make statements to the people now, like you do have
Speaker 1: to when you have a platform and you have influence,
Speaker 1: Like no, you don't have to do anything obviously, but
Speaker 1: it's immensely helpful. We see what happens when these people
Speaker 1: speak to their fan bases. So when it feels like
Speaker 1: someone is like a washed out version of what they
Speaker 1: can be like now, we notice. And so when it
Speaker 1: comes to these very calculated pop culture icons and these
Speaker 1: fixtures in pop culture, there is always a question of
Speaker 1: how is this serving you? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like whenever you're speaking to and speaking for a certain community,
Speaker 1: I think, so I totally understand like where that's coming from.
Speaker 1: And I also think like it's touchy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like whenever anyone is like I am speaking
Speaker 1: for the queers now, it's it's like you sort of
Speaker 1: get this like intrinsic thing, like oh yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: and they always have. But then you backtrack and that's
Speaker 1: not really true because you know, there's different things that play.
Speaker 1: But I think with Beyonce, I think she's like kind
Speaker 1: of giving us, like dumping a lot of knowledge download
Speaker 1: onto us. Like with the Queen's Remix, it's like okay, yes,
Speaker 1: Like she she's nodding to all of the houses, and
Speaker 1: she's nodding to like all of like the girls from
Speaker 1: the past to get back. For sure, she's taking it
Speaker 1: back and it's I mean, that's it's a genius piece
Speaker 1: of music in terms of absolutely reclaiming the song Vogue,
Speaker 1: but also not shopping Madonna. You know you're not You're
Speaker 1: not like saying fuck you Madonna, Like this was our
Speaker 1: thing and you made it yours. For a second, it's
Speaker 1: like no, like there's this beautiful intersection of things that
Speaker 1: like you can sort of pay homage to that, but
Speaker 1: also like trying to move forward with like the ownership
Speaker 1: of it. But yeah, I'm saying, like I think that's like,
Speaker 1: that's that's where I get the sense like Beyonce is
Speaker 1: not doing this in bad faith or not doing it
Speaker 1: just for the cloud, not even cloud. Yeah, exactly, I
Speaker 1: don't think she is either at all. When I first
Speaker 1: heard that new bridge on the Queens, I had to
Speaker 1: I literally had to deposit and stand up because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is such a moment, this is
Speaker 1: such a genius moment, and like it also was just
Speaker 1: so like now those people are solidified in time, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and there's like like and like, yes,
Speaker 1: I love what you said about like her, not like
Speaker 1: shooting on Madonna. She instead made Vogue their thing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now it's something that truly can
Speaker 1: feel like it is a celebration of all these icons
Speaker 1: like from this community. Because when you think about like
Speaker 1: like Madonna like taking ballroom culture and then and then
Speaker 1: using the word vogue and then shouting back to the
Speaker 1: white actresses of the past, like it is a little weird,
Speaker 1: great perspective. I just didn't even think. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that. It just doesn't. It doesn't. It's not
Speaker 1: like it's certainly not an A too B, nor is
Speaker 1: an a TOC. It's like what it's like, what are
Speaker 1: we saying? Like d drinking the Maaggio for Vogue and
Speaker 1: you're voguing in the video, like what is the connection here?
Speaker 1: Just that you're in black and white and they did
Speaker 1: movies in black and white. I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: know it just I feel like it all makes sense
Speaker 1: and comes together in a gorgeous, stunning way now. And
Speaker 1: I love the song, love the album, and love Beyonce
Speaker 1: obviously the artist of our lifetime. I think it's time
Speaker 1: to ask Tody question, which is Tody to be? What
Speaker 1: is the culture that made you say? Culture is for me?
Speaker 1: This is the formative pop culture for you? Um that
Speaker 1: you can can trace back to your beginnings. Seeing Brittney
Speaker 1: Spears in a bohemian outfit with a fedora hat barefoot
Speaker 1: out of a gas station bathroom while people asked for
Speaker 1: her signature really fortified just so much joy and excellence
Speaker 1: in my life. I knew that then I could be
Speaker 1: anything that I wanted to be, and that a messy
Speaker 1: boy from the South would achieve greatness only because she
Speaker 1: paved the way for people like us. And that is
Speaker 1: when I knew that the culture it was in fact
Speaker 1: for me. I forget to be a full paragraph, I
Speaker 1: mean like literally thesis statement on the essay that was beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1: She I felt what could be the messy Southern gay
Speaker 1: because of that messy Southern girl from can what Louisiana,
Speaker 1: Honey remember the name? Now? Is this the moment where
Speaker 1: she Wasn't this It was not. It was not when
Speaker 1: she was like going through like uh, very messy and
Speaker 1: shaking the head. No, this was this is like peak fame,
Speaker 1: Like this is peak peek, Like maybe like after in
Speaker 1: the zone she probably maybe dating cafe ed at the time,
Speaker 1: but really went into that bathroom with no no shoes,
Speaker 1: no fox to give, no fox to give, no shoes,
Speaker 1: no fox to give title of that no shoes. No,
Speaker 1: that's actually the title of her book that's coming out.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about Brittany in the present moment? Like,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts. I just want Brittany to be happy.
Speaker 1: I just want her to live her live. That is
Speaker 1: the company line. I hope that she's getting great dick
Speaker 1: from that very handsome man, and um yeah yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's about it. I don't need new music from her.
Speaker 1: I honestly, if she wants to make it, congratulations, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need an album. She's She's literally
Speaker 1: giving us a lifetime of hits, hot tracks, bops, iconic performances.
Speaker 1: We're we're good bad like take a take a break,
Speaker 1: take a nap, go sleep, go taking them kids. I
Speaker 1: don't know, just like you're good. Yeah, I what do
Speaker 1: you think? What are you feeling? What are you guys
Speaker 1: feeling about this Elton John track? It'll be cute to
Speaker 1: be interesting would be like, um, you know, um the
Speaker 1: do a thing doing rocket Man. I did like that.
Speaker 1: I did like duo though, and Elton John that that
Speaker 1: that that caught me by surprise that I actually liked
Speaker 1: it that much. Not that I'm not an Elton John
Speaker 1: can and I'm a huge do leap a fan. But
Speaker 1: do you know when you mix old and it just
Speaker 1: doesn't work, it doesn't work. But Gaga and Elton also
Speaker 1: slayed in CHROMATICA. We we didn't get that at the tour,
Speaker 1: but we did not get signed from above, which I
Speaker 1: did not but Tony Bennett, because Tony Bennett couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: He was gonna do with Eldon's part, and Tony Bennett
Speaker 1: going I was at would have been a gag. I was, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's good. You think Laura Lauren Matt has a Tony
Speaker 1: Bennett host for Joker Folio do, Tony. I think I
Speaker 1: think so much of your The moment I became obsessed
Speaker 1: with you was when you know, we all learned the
Speaker 1: rule that like when you play Britney Spears, we function up.
Speaker 1: I have not. I need to revisit the fact that
Speaker 1: she taught me everything I know about how to listen
Speaker 1: to music, about how to like every watch music videos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every homosexual, every homosexual on Fire Island is dressed like
Speaker 1: a two thousands of Britney Spears video. They've got the
Speaker 1: rhinestone g string out, they've got the they've got the
Speaker 1: broad top, they've got the sparkle pant. Like, everybody is
Speaker 1: dressed like a Britney Spears video. Right now, I would
Speaker 1: say there was there was the day before Britney Spears
Speaker 1: was a thing and there was the day after. I
Speaker 1: mean it was a sea change. It was a sea change.
Speaker 1: Nothing solidified my homosexuality more than like the Oops, I
Speaker 1: did it again performance at the M A M. Right,
Speaker 1: she could rock a Fedora. The Fedora is actually kind
Speaker 1: of fanatic in her and really Fedora like she's she's
Speaker 1: loved a Fedora for far too long. I I would
Speaker 1: say stopped, but like I'm gonna let her know. It's
Speaker 1: her thing her. They really placed that Fedor on her
Speaker 1: on her head during the Blackout album. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need we need something to fix this picture. Here
Speaker 1: you go girl. Yeah, her influence on fashion at that
Speaker 1: time that really thrust us into Fedora era and that
Speaker 1: was not good for the majority of people before Justin Timberlake,
Speaker 1: to be honest, before Justin, but Fedora wascited to get it,
Speaker 1: to be amazed right in the zone and then the
Speaker 1: music video yep, and then then be More album and
Speaker 1: the Blackout also, have we clocked this as a culture
Speaker 1: yet that like she has this through line and it
Speaker 1: just said it pretty much says everything that like the
Speaker 1: Britney Spears look alike in the crimea River music video
Speaker 1: was really only a look alike because she had blonde
Speaker 1: hair and a fedora as she walked into her home,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we know who that is? God, what
Speaker 1: a tacky guy. I not a chair Kelly Clarkson great
Speaker 1: people talking about Kelly. Oh no I did. I did
Speaker 1: electric cheering Kelly for giving me a Bruce spring but
Speaker 1: her chance let her free, don't. I don't like thinking
Speaker 1: about Kelly and the electric chain. We would never let
Speaker 1: it happens. Never. And I just found a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen images on Getty images of Britney Spears and Fedora.
Speaker 1: I'm getty, not even on Google. I'm getty. I believe
Speaker 1: there's a New Year's Eve moment. Here's what I can
Speaker 1: tell because she's performing in Times Square. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I think I think we're about to get
Speaker 1: the Fedora back in full force. I don't want it.
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think that Bowen? I
Speaker 1: don't know about you and a Fedora. I certainly not, Cody,
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of I see you in the Fedora.
Speaker 1: I really if anyone, if anyone can like be the
Speaker 1: Britney Spears, like in an sir in fashion and the culture.
Speaker 1: It could be you excuse me giving guys and dolls.
Speaker 1: I'm not here for that. Do you know what I
Speaker 1: just realized again that we have to talk about is
Speaker 1: your Mickey Mouse tattoo. I'm not a Disney adult otherwise.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate going to the parks from time to time.
Speaker 1: But I have a lot of Mickey. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of Mickey apparel. I think Mickey is a pop
Speaker 1: culture Americana icon, no doubt, and Disney adult. So I
Speaker 1: just want to get this the facts together. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we let's get the facts together then, because I would say,
Speaker 1: and Bowen, let me know if you agree that having
Speaker 1: a lot of merch and having a tattoo of Mickey
Speaker 1: on your bicep does make it more of a Disney
Speaker 1: adult than like not going to the parks like I
Speaker 1: don't know, once every couple of months. No, Matt, I
Speaker 1: think Cody is like an our in our fantasy where
Speaker 1: we do not identify as Disney adults either. But you
Speaker 1: know we love to funk it up at the parks,
Speaker 1: the parks, We really do that. It's about enjoying. It's
Speaker 1: about just going there and enjoying. You so right, king,
Speaker 1: well what what what? What? What? No? I was promised
Speaker 1: one chaperone trip to Disney after doing Dance with the Stars,
Speaker 1: and I have not I have not cashed in that
Speaker 1: token yet, and so I'm waiting, what which one World
Speaker 1: or World or Land. I think I think you've got
Speaker 1: to go to World. Then if they're offering you the opportunity,
Speaker 1: you have to go to World. And also, like I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that Kenya Moore they took her
Speaker 1: down to Disney World, and they did they when she
Speaker 1: was on they were literally doing like pieces in in
Speaker 1: front of Rise of the Resistance, like her and her
Speaker 1: dance partner, and she brought her daughter in Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm so excited to be in Disney World.
Speaker 1: And it was like definitely like packaged pieces exactly. And
Speaker 1: you were on this season prior to mis more correct, No,
Speaker 1: we're in the same Why didn't they bring you down? Bitch?
Speaker 1: I had COVID and I was sick. That's why. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, yes you were. You iconically had COVID during
Speaker 1: the com It was tragic. It was really tradic. That
Speaker 1: was what she is, you know what our relationship it
Speaker 1: took a while to like warm up to each other.
Speaker 1: It was hard really for the first three weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because we're both too strong personality. She's been in
Speaker 1: the game for a really long time, and I think
Speaker 1: we butted heads for like the first few weeks, not
Speaker 1: even butted heads, but I was just like I had
Speaker 1: to absorb a lot. But then I started to really
Speaker 1: understand understand her and also understand that whole machine, and
Speaker 1: I had so much more respect and love for her
Speaker 1: once I like sat in that ballroom more and more,
Speaker 1: because that whole process is like mental and emotional, just gymnastics,
Speaker 1: and it takes so much to be in that space,
Speaker 1: like a competition like that live. So like my respect
Speaker 1: for her group so much throughout the process, just like
Speaker 1: observing her and like, yeah, and you did incredible. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like second runner up. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: not for nothing. It was great. I mean it was great.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did it, but I was so
Speaker 1: happy it was over. Like I just like I was
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I did that. I did that. It's
Speaker 1: over great. Oh And that was when that was when
Speaker 1: you had your classes and like the l A store
Speaker 1: or something, and then yeah, there was a store in Venice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was like it was such it was it
Speaker 1: was like it was very jarring for me to like
Speaker 1: very make shift. It was very make shift when we
Speaker 1: made it happen. And I appreciate Peloton's um help. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure you get this all the time,
Speaker 1: but like, um, I'm literally telling you what you've heard
Speaker 1: from every other single single from from from Katie's. But like,
Speaker 1: I really it really was a thing where Cody was
Speaker 1: like keeping me like it was like a friend that like,
Speaker 1: especially in like early lockdown. UM, I was like fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a fucking Peloton like I can't, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't do this. Um. And then it was like
Speaker 1: discovering Cody and being like, oh, he's the only one
Speaker 1: who plays the ship. I like great. Then like he's
Speaker 1: my guy, and it was just like oh great, Like
Speaker 1: Cody is just like and you you got you guys
Speaker 1: all like keep it positive, which I know it sounds
Speaker 1: not trivial, but I know it sounds like oh sure,
Speaker 1: like it's a that that feels implicit, but it's like
Speaker 1: it's so hard to do. It's very hard to keep
Speaker 1: it like real, but light no that's kind of always
Speaker 1: the real that that is kind of all a rule
Speaker 1: for me. It's like you can talk about deep stuff
Speaker 1: where you can kind of get a little like I
Speaker 1: don't want to say, yeah, you can get negative or
Speaker 1: bring bring up stuff that might be uncomfortable, but you've
Speaker 1: gotta always gotta find a way to like not spin it,
Speaker 1: but like find the positive in it, like people are
Speaker 1: because people are coming to the class, I don't want
Speaker 1: to They don't want to be down. They want to
Speaker 1: be you know. Like so that's the rule that has
Speaker 1: to be tough though, like to be effusive all the time.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that is that is
Speaker 1: like texting well in that space it's only for like
Speaker 1: thirty or forty five minutes. But I see, right even
Speaker 1: this like summer, I've come to like like butt heads
Speaker 1: with it. Like sometimes I'm like I'm not in a
Speaker 1: great mood and I have to turn it off. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure with you this summer with Fireland movie,
Speaker 1: like you you had a lot more bombardment of people
Speaker 1: and like having to turn it on more often. No,
Speaker 1: definitely it was more than it would have been. Although
Speaker 1: I kind of I think and maybe Bowen thinks this too,
Speaker 1: but like there was so obviously an endpoint to everything
Speaker 1: we were doing. It just feel like and we were
Speaker 1: so grateful for this, but because the movie was successful
Speaker 1: and that people really enjoyed it, the the the like
Speaker 1: press of it all and the conversation around it felt
Speaker 1: like and also the Pride Month of it all felt
Speaker 1: like it kept going, which is like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, bo totally, But I think people are also
Speaker 1: more understanding now. It's not like not to compare ourselves
Speaker 1: to like Britney Spears when she was of her fame,
Speaker 1: but like that was a completely different culture around fame work.
Speaker 1: It was like there was no compassion whatsoever or empathy
Speaker 1: or like understand what this person would be going through.
Speaker 1: And I think, like I think, I think anyone anyone
Speaker 1: can understand that, Like we are just real people and
Speaker 1: like you know, when we like you know, are walking
Speaker 1: around and they want to say hello, and it's and
Speaker 1: it's it's lovely. I think I think people are very
Speaker 1: respect very it's lovely and especially because you're you're doing,
Speaker 1: you're having a positive impact on people. You can't be
Speaker 1: mad at someone, you can't be mad or like upset
Speaker 1: that someone's going to tell you that like you had
Speaker 1: a positive influence on their life. You know, it makes
Speaker 1: me happy and smile every single time. Every This actually
Speaker 1: dovetails nicely into my I don't think so, honey, So
Speaker 1: should be transition though it Oh my god, this is like, guys,
Speaker 1: this is like lip sinking for my life. Like better
Speaker 1: get a fucking legendary legend star after you're getting one.
Speaker 1: You're getting one. Everyone gets one. It's it's like a
Speaker 1: participation trophy, which it often was on Drag Race. Don't
Speaker 1: even really I mean that it was just like right
Speaker 1: there for me. Okay, So this is I don't think
Speaker 1: so funny. Is a sixty second segment where Bowen Yang,
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers, that's me and our guest today that happens
Speaker 1: to be Cody Riggs, b third co host Energy All
Speaker 1: the Do Not Day. We um all take a minute
Speaker 1: to rant against something in culture that deserves to be
Speaker 1: absolutely dragged and bow and I do have something. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think sonny, his time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey, the way that
Speaker 1: we did and hait like if you really look back
Speaker 1: to the beginning of when she became super famous, it
Speaker 1: was extremely homophobic. And then when she was having struggles
Speaker 1: with her mental health, like she was derided and her
Speaker 1: career was basically destroyed. If you look back at her work,
Speaker 1: like taking out the way that she passed completely like
Speaker 1: this was an incredibly talented actor, like watch birth Watch
Speaker 1: six Days, seven Nights, watch um, you know, like her
Speaker 1: entire body of work, so I know what you did
Speaker 1: last summer. Like there's just so many things that she
Speaker 1: was in that you forget she was in because she
Speaker 1: was so in the fabric of movies, like the Psycho
Speaker 1: Um remake that they did in ninety eight Gus Fans
Speaker 1: and the remakeup Psycho Shot for shot. It is so
Speaker 1: incredibly difficult to do to be iconic and be singular
Speaker 1: in a shot by shot remix but remake, but she
Speaker 1: was in a remix, and Hayes was incredibly talented, Like
Speaker 1: she passed away in a tragic way. Obviously she could
Speaker 1: have heard a lot of people. But I feel like
Speaker 1: we have to just remember the positive and not drag
Speaker 1: these especially women who are having real life struggles. And
Speaker 1: I just think we need to be more compassionate about
Speaker 1: people who are having mental health struggles. This is my
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And that's one I just I've
Speaker 1: been thinking so much about, Like you know, obviously, like
Speaker 1: the way she died was like a sensational thing, Like
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Who knows what she was going through
Speaker 1: and she could have hurt someone, and thank god, the
Speaker 1: woman that who's home that she crashed into was okay,
Speaker 1: and so were her pets, Like there was very minor injuries.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that this was someone who
Speaker 1: was very obviously for decades dealing with like serious mental
Speaker 1: health situations, and I just wish that we always could
Speaker 1: have been this compassionate, like you think about it with
Speaker 1: Brittany too. Obviously we talked about it so much, but
Speaker 1: like I don't know, just leave people alone. And she
Speaker 1: was like an incredibly smart and talented woman. And it's
Speaker 1: a shame that she's not around to do more stuff
Speaker 1: because she was always good. And talk about someone who
Speaker 1: was very singular, who had a very specific individual identity
Speaker 1: and energy as a performer. That's her, and she's we
Speaker 1: are worse off for not being able to watch more
Speaker 1: of her stuff. Yeah, that's all that's all really so sad,
Speaker 1: so sad, but yeah, don't make fun of people that
Speaker 1: that are that are going through mental health stuff. It's
Speaker 1: that that's really dark, like literally said that a chromatical ball. Yeah, compassion.
Speaker 1: She had compassion for people with mental illness. Because if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you twittered like hashtag and has like
Speaker 1: even after her death, loud Twitter was dark. It was
Speaker 1: really rough. It's not gonna be good. It's not, of course,
Speaker 1: because it's Twitter, but you know, just just something to
Speaker 1: remember the girls dragging her on Twitter. Oh yeah, just
Speaker 1: just making a punch line out of it, which is
Speaker 1: so fun. I think maybe people thought because she didn't
Speaker 1: die right away that it was okay to make jokes
Speaker 1: about but um, yeah, because I mean anyway, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is an important one and I think
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys will a great important even this
Speaker 1: is bonus. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Delta sky Lounge having
Speaker 1: for tatas and not scrambled eggs. When I want breakfast
Speaker 1: effort an early flight, and I go to the Delta
Speaker 1: sky Lounge, which I have heard my place in I
Speaker 1: have I've built up the credit to have a platinum
Speaker 1: m X card, so I can what get into the club,
Speaker 1: the space, the fantasy of the Delta Sky Lounge. Get
Speaker 1: welcome to the one of Laguardy this morning. And all
Speaker 1: I wanted was a scrambled egg and two bacon strips.
Speaker 1: But no, what do I get instead? Egg white and
Speaker 1: sausage and pork sausage? No, honey, I wanted a specific fantasy,
Speaker 1: and you were not able to afford that to me.
Speaker 1: I loved the cantaloupe, loved the berries, loved the bagel,
Speaker 1: even had they had a fucking and cream cheese for
Speaker 1: your nerve. But I needed the scrambled eggs, Like all
Speaker 1: we need scrambled eggs. Don't make it fancy. Don't give
Speaker 1: me a little circle, little hockey puck of eggs. I
Speaker 1: want a nice, fluffy, little mound of egg and cholesterol.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I think that every Katie listening
Speaker 1: right now can identify with that one because Delta Sky
Speaker 1: Lounge complaint. All the kids are Delta Gold, not platinum,
Speaker 1: not diamond, but I mean Deltas. Deltas are that are that? Girl? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say I, I too, have worked up my
Speaker 1: points to become a member of the adulta sky Lounge
Speaker 1: and those fritatas don't look good and just make it.
Speaker 1: What is the big deal? And no ice coffee in
Speaker 1: the Delta Lounge. We need ice coffees in the Delta
Speaker 1: Lounge period period. People are turning this off. It's true
Speaker 1: that it's crazy they don't have it. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it is crazy, they don't have it. They don't have
Speaker 1: ice coffee. No. I mean you can make it. You
Speaker 1: could make it, but you know that's the worst. Don't
Speaker 1: don't walk around with us. You make it before they
Speaker 1: get before they get CoFe. Listen, I'll take a Celsius,
Speaker 1: I love a self. How did Celsius become that girl?
Speaker 1: Like she really became that girl out of nowhere? Which
Speaker 1: here's here's what happened. Jonah Hill was fucking chugging them
Speaker 1: on the set of Don't Look Up, and then he
Speaker 1: recommended it to everyone. Leo, Meryl Streep, you know, fucking
Speaker 1: caplain if this is how she became the girl. Literally,
Speaker 1: I think this is part of I think Jonah Hill,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not even lying. This is
Speaker 1: t like Jonah Hill was like their brand ambassador, wasn't
Speaker 1: even getting paid. He was just like, this stuff is amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't crash. It's the flavors are cute. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't crash. I think someone. I think it's because
Speaker 1: someone told me you don't crash on these, and it's
Speaker 1: placebon and I just believe in my body is probably yeah.
Speaker 1: Becca Becca confirms they have a Starbucks machine to make
Speaker 1: hot lattez, but no ice. It's not Europe. It's like
Speaker 1: they sell it at the grocery store now. They sell big, big,
Speaker 1: big things of ice coffees crafted that even. I also
Speaker 1: feel like most gay people who drink ice coffee, we
Speaker 1: know this. They are Delta, like most gay people are Delta.
Speaker 1: I feel I think Deltas get the gay airline, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's just that's something I'm surmising. These Delta,
Speaker 1: these Delta sky lounges have some like there was a
Speaker 1: family bathroom, which like whatever, like if you like meet
Speaker 1: someone there then right, But there was literally at LaGuardia,
Speaker 1: at this room next to the family bathroom that I
Speaker 1: open because they need to go to the bathroom, and
Speaker 1: it was just a sink and a chair and a
Speaker 1: hand dryer. There was no toilet, and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just a fucking room. This is just a
Speaker 1: room for fucking, which which is actually very queer. And
Speaker 1: if they can do that, then might not have the
Speaker 1: ice coffees. But what status do you have to be
Speaker 1: to get into that bathroom? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Good questions. Yang hooked up in the
Speaker 1: Barcelona airport. Congratulations, it was it was crazy. It was so,
Speaker 1: it was it was crazy. I was felt like it
Speaker 1: was in a porn Now anyway, oh all right, you ready? Boom,
Speaker 1: okay bone Yang? Are you gonna are you gonna time
Speaker 1: him all time? All time him? This is Cony Rigsby's
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Be real, Okay, I have enough
Speaker 1: social media apps on my phone. I don't need any
Speaker 1: more distractions. Um. Also, I'm a millennial. I like things
Speaker 1: to be curated. I like things to be creative. I
Speaker 1: need a little bit of face to him. I need
Speaker 1: a little bit of filter. So please, no be real, No,
Speaker 1: be real. I I scroll every day. Is depressing, it's doomsday,
Speaker 1: it's political news. I don't need to see you and
Speaker 1: the guynecologist. I don't need to see your hot like
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't need any of that. And
Speaker 1: let's be honest, be real. Are you being real? Because
Speaker 1: the rules have changed. You used to be able to
Speaker 1: upload your be real within a limited amount of time,
Speaker 1: and now you can be late to your be real?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Be real? It's sounding a little
Speaker 1: be fake to me. The Fairy the Pines affairries right
Speaker 1: picture and they wanted me to be in there. Be real.
Speaker 1: It's the worst picture I've ever take. Be real about
Speaker 1: his ellis Taylor Swift. I can't believe this one, and
Speaker 1: that's why admitted on that. But it couldn't help. But
Speaker 1: throwing one last jab at her, at our queen, I
Speaker 1: have to say, be realist getting more boring. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not last thing, It's not. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the tail is oldest time, Okay, period period. I think
Speaker 1: I think you know. Cody is being honest about the
Speaker 1: fact that part of the fun of other forms of
Speaker 1: social media is that you do get to curate, You
Speaker 1: do get to have some control over over what you
Speaker 1: show people, which is both the joy and the curse
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Everybody wants attention. Everyone wants to
Speaker 1: show off, so like, there you go. But I will
Speaker 1: say though, like, because you don't have to do it
Speaker 1: within those two minutes, you can decide I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be late today and curate something. So it's not like
Speaker 1: it's giving you no opperty unity to curate, but it's
Speaker 1: answer that's the but it is And this is of
Speaker 1: what it is because we were because it could be real.
Speaker 1: Happened on Cromatical Ball day, like right before we we
Speaker 1: left with the concert. But our friend Patrick goes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take mine at the show, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like, well, that's not that's not being real. But also,
Speaker 1: where the funk are they at be Real Headquarters that
Speaker 1: they know the Gaga concert is happening in New York
Speaker 1: City that night and they're like, yeah, let's do it
Speaker 1: at two fift pm. Stupid fuckers. I don't think the
Speaker 1: people that be Real Headquarters know or care that chromatic
Speaker 1: A Ball is happening. Well, they need to hire more
Speaker 1: queer people then, And this is what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: be Real obviously doesn't have queer people working there. Hire
Speaker 1: more queers now more. It is it is. It is
Speaker 1: for gen Zers mostly theory on that, but maybe maybe
Speaker 1: they're getting tired of it too. Is there anything below
Speaker 1: gen Z like younger Jan Alpha? Is that what they're called?
Speaker 1: You told me that. That's what you told me that
Speaker 1: that's what they're called. I'll find. First of all, don't
Speaker 1: point at me with your finger. You can take your
Speaker 1: finger and you go pointing at someone else if you
Speaker 1: have the big attitudes, because you have an attitude, it's true,
Speaker 1: it's which that's the chicest name. Yeah, it's really good
Speaker 1: until you get to gen Omega, which is like we'll
Speaker 1: be we'll be gone by then we'll be dead. Mama. There,
Speaker 1: they're gonna start sounding like co variance. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: O Macron generation. I'm gonna say, yeah, I remember what
Speaker 1: overcron meant something different, Matt. I think I put too
Speaker 1: much pressure on our guests to be third co host energy,
Speaker 1: but I think more And you want to know he's
Speaker 1: challenged us. He challenged us. That's what it was looking
Speaker 1: I'm dancing if you could see him now, Katie's so
Speaker 1: much happened on this episode. Fandom name, we were talking
Speaker 1: a we were challenged. Oh once the chromatical Ball and
Speaker 1: even though we were jet legged from our trip to Chromatica,
Speaker 1: we still came through about I think the three of
Speaker 1: us all had travel days today, right, We all came
Speaker 1: back from the place or had to go someplace else.
Speaker 1: But Cody, you traveled yesterday. Oh yeah, just want to
Speaker 1: fire on for the day. Wow, it must have been nice.
Speaker 1: I'll take it out of you. Literally, I woke up
Speaker 1: this morning. I was like, oh, thank you for coming
Speaker 1: out and took my whole life last time. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was a fun app Thank you baby, thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. We finally made this happen. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've been talking about this for like months. Yeah, by
Speaker 1: popular demand and after my Yeah, yeah, it's just that
Speaker 1: is what it is. So we made it work. Um,
Speaker 1: we love you. I can't wait to see your next work.
Speaker 1: When the light hits you just right, baby, I'm always
Speaker 1: going to find that light. You will. Well. We end
Speaker 1: every episode with a song unique I'm the bar star
Speaker 1: uniforn is the uniform you put on when you perform. Okay,
Speaker 1: off book on the record, No no, no, I'm off book. Unheated.
Speaker 1: At the end of he did tip tip tip on
Speaker 1: hardwood floor. Some of it just some of it. Tip
Speaker 1: tip tip on hardwood floor, tross the floor, or give
Speaker 1: me face based based based yeah face card never God period.
Speaker 1: Eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it. I can't
Speaker 1: rest but listen to Eat It by Beyonce. Bye Bye
Speaker 1: Bye