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Speaker 1: Really enjoying it. Yeah, I appreciate it, Joe. You know,

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Speaker 1: But whenever a no go ahead, I was just gonna

429
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Speaker 1: say that. You know, the Islamist groups are usually a

430
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Speaker 1: little bit more in your face, you know, calling themselves

431
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Speaker 1: the Islamic State or al Qaeda this or that, right,

432
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Speaker 1: And what's what's interesting is someone on the news rep.

433
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: One of the commentars on the piece asked me, She goes, hey,

434
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Speaker 1: did you do we have any troops currently station in

435
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Speaker 1: the area, And I'm I'm trying to get ahold of

436
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Speaker 1: an answer. Yes, but I know that what do you say, sir,

437
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: do we do? What's what's their mission over there? Um,

438
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Speaker 1: it's the while that we're doing a fit mission in

439
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Speaker 1: Uganda with some other ancillary stuff tacked onto it. And

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we've had people going back and

441
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Speaker 1: forth through the Congo, but uh, I mean it's been

442
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Speaker 1: fairly like light footprint. I wonder if the funding got

443
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Speaker 1: yanked from the Uganda mission or if that's still ongoing,

444
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Speaker 1: I'd have to look into that. I know that the

445
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Speaker 1: you know, Army SF. How what's the best way to

446
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Speaker 1: to speak about the Army Special Forces Group? I mean

447
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: in what regard like if like if I just you know,

448
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Speaker 1: Green Berets or Army SF or what's the what's the

449
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Speaker 1: most understood term? Do you think? Well, technically, you know

450
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Speaker 1: as far as like how the Army has these guys

451
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Speaker 1: listed in their in their task organization is as Special

452
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Speaker 1: Forces US Special Forces. But that term confuses the public

453
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Speaker 1: because they hear that and they think like, oh, seals,

454
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Speaker 1: seals are special forces, or I thought rangers are special forces.

455
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: When I originally came onto the site, I was confused

456
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: by that. It was like I thought special forces everybody,

457
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: and then you know, eventually I got onto it. But

458
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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like all the terms are fine.

459
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: This reminds me of, um, this reminds me of our

460
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Speaker 1: conversation last episode about the unit. The unit. Yeah. But

461
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: then well then so you'll have SF guys, actual special

462
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Speaker 1: Forces soldiers or others are will refer to ourselves as

463
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Speaker 1: green berets, but then there are other guys and special

464
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Speaker 1: forces will say, well, green beret is a hat. That's

465
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Speaker 1: not who we are. So you get into this whole

466
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Speaker 1: like ship show about what we call ourselves and um,

467
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Speaker 1: it's it's part of the reason I think the public

468
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Speaker 1: remains a little bit confused about special Forces too, is

469
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Speaker 1: because what do we call ourselves? Um, and what we

470
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Speaker 1: are and so that's it's one of those things we

471
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Speaker 1: have to articulate. But I mean, if you call them

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Speaker 1: special forces or green berets, I think either is is

473
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Speaker 1: perfectly acceptable to my mind. Somebody mowing their lawn outside,

474
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Speaker 1: yeah here here that sorry, about that. No, it's all good.

475
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Speaker 1: That happens without fail Like whenever you're ready to record,

476
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, somebody starts working on their back

477
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: deck right where you wherever you are. So I'm at

478
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Speaker 1: a friend's house because my wife and I have seven dogs.

479
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can't do it at home,

480
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna go nut. So I specifically came here to

481
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Speaker 1: my friend with their dogs, and you know, I got

482
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: the Cosmo in the yard. But yeah, the reason I asked,

483
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, I know that we did have Special Forces

484
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Speaker 1: soldiers in Uganda last year hunting Joseph Coney, who is

485
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Speaker 1: the leader of the Lord's Resistance Army, which is a

486
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Speaker 1: lose allied with the new Allied Democratic Forces. Yeah, it

487
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: turned into a kind of a joke. I mean Coney

488
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Speaker 1: was across the border in uh C, a r Central

489
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Speaker 1: African Republic as I recall, and we didn't have any

490
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Speaker 1: kind of we weren't given any kind of cross border

491
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Speaker 1: authority to go over there and get him. Um, so

492
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Speaker 1: I mean guys were kind of like just doing the

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Speaker 1: fit mission over in Uganda. That isn't really going to

494
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Speaker 1: go anywhere, got you. So if people want to check

495
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Speaker 1: out this article, by the way, it's titled Ebola continues

496
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Speaker 1: to spread threatens economies of the d r C and Uganda.

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Speaker 1: You published it in October four UM, and it's interesting stuff, man,

498
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Speaker 1: I mean you you talked about the numbers listed here

499
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Speaker 1: of one sixty one confirmed cases of the Bowl of

500
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Speaker 1: virus on five deaths, and it's just a reminder that

501
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: ebola is a very different problem over there than over here.

502
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Speaker 1: You know, when it I remember when it came over

503
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Speaker 1: here and there was this huge scare and I believe

504
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: we only had one confirmed death, right, So it's just

505
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: it's an entirely different problem when you're dealing with a

506
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Speaker 1: pretty much no health care system, right, and no real

507
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Speaker 1: education system either. You know. It's I feel like a

508
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Speaker 1: lot of us that have you know, researched the bowla

509
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Speaker 1: have a lot better idea of of what it does

510
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Speaker 1: and how it's as people who were living there because

511
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: they've never been exposed any kind of education. And if

512
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Speaker 1: you if you don't know what it is, you know,

513
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and your and your family member gets it, and then

514
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: a couple of days they're throwing up massive amounts of

515
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Speaker 1: blood and bleeding from every orifice. I mean, it's got

516
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Speaker 1: to be just horrifying. Do you guys remember Errol Lewis

517
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: UM in New York. You might remember because it was

518
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: local got some crap literally because during the whole like

519
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: scare of EBOA in America, he was like, if you

520
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: see like crap on the ground, don't eat it. Like

521
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: that was like his advice or not getting eboa. But

522
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: the truth is, it actually is very hard to get

523
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: in America because of our health care system, and if

524
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Speaker 1: if we do, you know, they'll be able to treat it.

525
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Speaker 1: But I do remember the whole scare where at airports

526
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Speaker 1: they were, you know, quarantining people, and people were legitimately

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Speaker 1: scared because they saw the amount of deaths in Africa

528
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: and they thought this would be a similar problem in

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Speaker 1: the US. And then there were less alarmist groups out there.

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Speaker 1: UM like them. I'm trying to think of the name

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Speaker 1: of the actual UM group. I think they're like a

532
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Speaker 1: lobbyist group. That family member of mine used to be

533
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Speaker 1: a part of the National Council of It's a science group.

534
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, they were like less alarmous groups out there

535
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Speaker 1: saying don't be so worried about ebowl. A lot of

536
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: this is media hype and they turned out to be right. Yeah.

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00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of the tragedy of it

538
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: is that it is treatable, and you know, these people

539
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: don't have to suffer like this, but because they're in

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Speaker 1: these impoverished areas, were torn areas, it provides an opportunity

541
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Speaker 1: for you know, some of these healthcare crises to break out. Yeah,

542
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: and um, you know, the article is definitely not meant

543
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Speaker 1: to scare you know, the American public and the readers

544
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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some insane a bowl outbreak. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and like you said, it is relatively hard

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Speaker 1: to catch. I mean, it's not like the flu where

547
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: you can just sneeze and it's airborne. I mean a

548
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Speaker 1: bull I I believe, if I'm corrected, it has to

549
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: be transmitted through body fluid and direct touch. Um. But

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00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not really scared to get

551
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: the flu, even though it kills a lot more people

552
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: a year. But I'm I'd be really scared about a bullet.

553
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: So you have that kind of fear and that kind

554
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: of visceral reaction to it. Did any think you guys

555
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: actually get the flu? Shot On on that note, now

556
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: they feel like every year they tell you I should

557
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: get the flu shot and I never do. I've never

558
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: gotten it since. I talked to a friend of mine

559
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: about and he said, it's the flu shot is basically

560
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: like the rolling the dice because there's no flu. The

561
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: flu is like thousands and thousands of different strains, and

562
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: they don't know which strain is going to break out

563
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: in whatever part of the country you live in. So

564
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: there's like some statistics are going on in the background

565
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Speaker 1: where they're trying to predict which strain of the flu

566
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Speaker 1: is going to be in your area and give you

567
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: the flu shot to inoculate you for that strain, but

568
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: nobody really knows. I mean, it's like predicting the weather.

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Speaker 1: So since it's just like kind of, you know, rolling

570
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Speaker 1: the dice, I never really bothered getting it. And also,

571
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: so all of us are, you know, I know where

572
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: we're both in our thirties. I don't know if you're

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Speaker 1: in your thirties, Joel okay, so late twenties, early thirties,

574
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: relatively you know, relatively healthy guys. I think it's it's

575
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: more of a concern if you are, like an elderly

576
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: person could become deadly for us, it were not in

577
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Speaker 1: that category, right, And they recommend healthcare. You know, my

578
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: wife's studying to be a doctor, so they recommend, you know,

579
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: medical workers get the flu shot. Not so much for them,

580
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: but you know, to protect their patients from spreading it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think state by state they have laws on

582
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, if if you are mandated to get the

583
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Speaker 1: flu shot, if you're if it's mandatory to get certain vaccines.

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Speaker 1: And I do understand that you're working around elderly people,

585
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Speaker 1: You're working around people who are more susceptible to these

586
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: type of diseases. And I know people like to act

587
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: like it's a freedom issue, but it's the same thing.

588
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Also with like vaccines, you have to get it in birth.

589
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: If you know a certain large portion of the population

590
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: aren't getting these vaccines, then you might as well not

591
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: have them at all. And then we're going to bring

592
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: back these diseases from like the Middle Ages. Yeah, and

593
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: you see these kids who are coming down with like measles,

594
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Speaker 1: mumps and rubella or uh what is it, whooping cough,

595
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: and Jesus Christ really like all because like Alex Jones said,

596
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Speaker 1: you know that that vaccines are evil. I saw some

597
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: news article, and I mean, I don't know the veracity

598
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: of it, but um, they were saying that there's there's

599
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Speaker 1: like rich neighborhood somewhere in Los Angeles. They have um

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Speaker 1: lower vaccine rates than third world countries in Sub Saharan

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Speaker 1: Africa because the parents are these like yuppies who aren't

602
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Speaker 1: having their kids vaccinated. Well, sorry, go ahead, and I

603
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: think some of them bet on you know, that concept

604
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Speaker 1: of herd immunity, whereas if everyone else is around me vaccine,

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Speaker 1: that I don't have to vaccine kid because the disease

606
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: can or anyways, but if everyone thinks like that exactly. Yeah,

607
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. Those Alex Hollings you were

608
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: talking about the last time he was on, he brought

609
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Speaker 1: this up, I think the last two times he was on.

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Speaker 1: And it's uh, no surprise to us, I guess might

611
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Speaker 1: be a surprise to other people that some a lot

612
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Speaker 1: of the anti vaccine propaganda is coming out of Russia. Yeah,

613
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Speaker 1: they did. H came out in one of the congressional studies.

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Speaker 1: Actually it was just like wherever the Russians see like

615
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Speaker 1: a fissure in society that they can exploit, they'll jump

616
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Speaker 1: on that, and um, you know, the anti vax er

617
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: issue is one of those like, oh, you can get

618
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: Americans arguing and fighting with one another and the point

619
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Speaker 1: behind that from their perspective as well, if you're arguing

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Speaker 1: about stupid domestic issues like that, I mean not that

621
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: it's stupid, but I mean, I mean it's stupid like

622
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Speaker 1: that we're having that argument. But if you're arguing about that,

623
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Speaker 1: then you're not arguing about, you know, all the nefarious

624
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: things that Russia is up to, and so that's kind

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00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: of the point. It's just a distraction essentially. Like I

626
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Speaker 1: was reading today about there's this viral video people are

627
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: sharing on Facebook and I saw friends of mine sharing

628
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: it as this girl who was going and um, pouring

629
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Speaker 1: bleach on people on the subway who are man spreads. Yeah,

630
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: and uh, it turns out to be some sort of

631
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: hoax that was propagated by you know, Russia today and

632
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: some of those and and the people the men in

633
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: that video were like paid actors. So it's just one

634
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: of another one of those things like you just get

635
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: people outraged about stupid and consequential garbage, and it distracts

636
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: attention away from some of the things that are happening

637
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: in the world that we should really be paying attention to. Yeah,

638
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: it's tough, you know, and when people want to have

639
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: those kind of almost nonsensical arguments, um, you know, because

640
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: of what they see on Facebook, and it makes it

641
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: hard to for real discussions about things that can really

642
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: implicate the country to to take place. But I'll say

643
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: that they got me with that breach thing. I believed it.

644
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: I would love to do like a study on on

645
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: this particular subject because what I've noticed, and this is

646
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: purely anecdotal, is that the like baby Boomer generation, including

647
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: the Special Forces veterans that I am acquainted with, seemed

648
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: to be especially susceptible to that kind of propaganda like that.

649
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they're sharing it like NonStop on social media, um,

650
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: taking it as fact. And I mean, who would have

651
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: thought that Green bereves who served during the Cold War

652
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: would be like maybe the most at risk population for

653
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: Russian propaganda. I mean, I don't know if they are

654
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: really the most susceptible, but they seem highly susceptible just

655
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: in my own casual observations. And I would love to

656
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: do a study on like why that is, because it's

657
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: so counterintuitive. You would think these would be the people

658
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: who are the most inoculate, inoculated to foreign Russian propaganda,

659
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: but it seems like they're the most susceptible to it.

660
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: It's kind of sad too. I mean, like you said,

661
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: these as are are Cold War veterans put it, in

662
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: some respects, they're still fighting that same battle. You know,

663
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: we all are with that outside influence of propaganda. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And so I think the reason Russia is putting out

665
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: propaganda like the vaccine stuff that we were talking about,

666
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: goes back to something we've discussed many times in this

667
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: podcast that a lot of the Russian propaganda is just

668
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: about creating um distrust in the system for Americans, distrust

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: and government. So just the same way with you know

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: what they call the election hack, Oh you know, our

671
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: elections are rigged um. And then also Russia funding both

672
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: sides of protests, whether it's Black Lives Matter and you know,

673
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: liberal side of things, and and approach Trump rallies and

674
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: something like this creates an idea of oh, they're lying

675
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: to us about the election, They're lying to us about vaccines,

676
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: and it's not even about who the president is. It's

677
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: just about us feeling like we're being lied to about everything.

678
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: An I said, anywhere they can find a fissure in society,

679
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: they will try to exploit it. Um. You know, if

680
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: you watch like RT or something like that, you'll think

681
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: there's like a freaking race war going on in America.

682
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: And I mean, but in reality, I mean, you go out,

683
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, I take my kid out to the playground

684
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: and she's playing in the sprinkler system with uh, you know,

685
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: African American and Hispanic children, uh and everybody else. I

686
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: can't believe you would allow that. Yeah, I know it

687
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but you know, we we live in a

688
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: multi ethnic society and for the most part, we get

689
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: along with each other. I mean it's not to say

690
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: we don't have problems, but you know, the Russian propaganda

691
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: will make it seem like we're all at each other's

692
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: throats and there's some like race war about to break out.

693
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Speaker 1: But you know, when you go out and actually live

694
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Speaker 1: in the real world, you see that's not the case.

695
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the danger of you know, our generation

696
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: living on their phones and and losing that grasp of reality.

697
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Like like you said, I mean, you look on Facebook

698
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, everyone hates each other, but then

699
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: you're out and about. There's no just no one's being

700
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: violent to each other on on a day to day basis,

701
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: and we're all, like you said, getting the law. But

702
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, when you live with your face on your phone,

703
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm guilty of that, you know, it's

704
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: easy to be, uh, take a pessimistic view on current

705
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: events and current situation. Perception is reality. Nice time for

706
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: a little plug of Alex's book. By the way, Alex

707
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Hong's book, because the book is all about information ops.

708
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: So if you check that out, that's that's the subject

709
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: of of his latest book, which is doing really well. Um.

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00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: I want to get into this other piece as well.

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00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: Why are oil prices up? Several factors? This is written

712
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: by Joe. This is up on the news rep dot com.

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Speaker 1: Crude oil prices rose sharply Wednesday, driven up by a decline.

714
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Speaker 1: And this is last Wednesday, of course, not today if

715
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: you're listening to it. Up on Wednesday, Uh, driven up

716
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: by a decline in the US oil supply and the

717
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: expected effects of a new wave of sanctions on Iran.

718
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Speaker 1: Iran is an influential member of the Organization of the

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00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: petroleum exporting country OPEC and one of the world's largest producers.

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Speaker 1: Brent crude to benchmark oil across the eighty dollar per

721
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: barrel mark earlier last Wednesday, before coming to rest at

722
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Speaker 1: four per barrel at the end of the day. This

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00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: latest increase put sprints price at the highest level it's

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Speaker 1: been since the end of May, according to Reuters. In

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Speaker 1: addition to the impending sanctions on Iran, the US stock

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Speaker 1: of crude inventories fell by a dramatic five point three

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Speaker 1: million barrels in the last week. This decline is vastly

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Speaker 1: more substantial than the eight hundred five barrels predicted by

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Speaker 1: the UM. And that's is that eight hundred five thousand barrels.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry here because I'm looking at this article in

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Speaker 1: the way it printed, because it would be more than

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Speaker 1: eight d five UM but hundred five thousand barrels predicted

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Speaker 1: by the analysts from the US Energy Information Administration. So

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Speaker 1: this is interesting and one of those unforeseen consequences of

735
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: UH so called America of First policies. So yeah, the

736
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: sanctions on Iran are by far the biggest factor affecting

737
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: oil prices right now, because UH, everyone's kind of you know,

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00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna the sanctions are going to take effect in November,

739
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: and and everyone's trying to decide, Okay, is Iran going

740
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: to see soil production and is that they're gonna drop

741
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: world supply or they gonna be able to smuggle it

742
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: out like they're trying to do, you know, offloading crude

743
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: oil onto their existing tankers and trying to work around

744
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: the sanctions. So everyone's kind of holding their breath to

745
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: see what the Iranian sections due to the world will supply. Um.

746
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, the US has talked to other OPEC countries,

747
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: specifically Saudi Arabia and asked them to increase production to

748
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: make up for what we're gonna lose with Iran. But

749
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: until November hits, everyone's gonna be talking about the Rhyan stctions,

750
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be speculating about it, and you know, just

751
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of wait and see what exactly Iran is going

752
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: to do and what the what the net effect is

753
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: it going to be on a global oil supply, And

754
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: then countries buying from Iran are really going to be China, Russia,

755
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: who else do you think Venezuela, Well, Venezuela need to

756
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: buy from them, But the one that's been in the

757
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: news lately is India. Um, there are big up and coming,

758
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, big giant population and kind of going through

759
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: an industrial period right now. So they're a massive consumer

760
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: of oil, and they've expressed interests that they're going to

761
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: continue to buy Iranni and oil despite U S sanctions.

762
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: So what do you think this means? I mean, are

763
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: we going to head back into the area like we

764
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: start during the during the George W. Bush administration where

765
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: gas shot up to at a tight what was it

766
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: like five fifties six dollars a gallon? I mean it's

767
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: something around like that. Yeah. I think when I first

768
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: got my my driver's license and had to start paying

769
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: for my own gas, it was like four dollars a gallon,

770
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: and I was like I walk so um here in

771
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: New York. Here in New York. It went up quite

772
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: a bit more than that. I remember around like before

773
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: the before the Obama administration. I mean it was pretty

774
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: high at one point. Oh yeah, Um, I think you know,

775
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia does what they say they can do and

776
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: and and level out oil supplies. You know, we shouldn't

777
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: see a giant increase in prices. But if they're unable

778
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: to and that supply goes down, we're definitely gonna start

779
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: feeling the effects is you know, the price of a

780
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: barrel of oil goes up and then, um, you know,

781
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: with India. India is kind of interesting because you know,

782
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: like you know, earlier this year, we renamed our Pacific

783
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Command to the Indo Pacific Command to kind of include

784
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: India and our sphere of influence and kind of extend

785
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: them and olive branch and being like, hey, we're friendly neighbors.

786
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: And the Indians are freaking out about the Chinese getting

787
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: into the Indian Ocean, right and uh, I think I

788
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: think Alex has written a lot about it. There's been

789
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: a lot on this side about the different you know,

790
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: close calls that the U. S. Navy and the and

791
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: the Chinese Navy have hampletely out there. Um, so we've

792
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: kind of you know, taken India aside and said more

793
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: or less like hey, you know, you're gonna come under

794
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: our sphere protection against the Chinese. So for them to

795
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: go and say we're still gonna buy iranny and oil

796
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting. And it's going to be interesting

797
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: to see how that affects the relationship between Arts and

798
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: New Delhi. Yeah, it's going to be very interesting. And uh,

799
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: it could be that the Indians are kind of holding

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00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: out for something, Maybe they want something in exchange from

801
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: the United States, which uh, I don't know if I

802
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: can hold that against them. They have their strategic interests, um,

803
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: but at least from my point of view, I think

804
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: it behooves the United States to strengthen our relationship with

805
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: India as much as we can, considering the rising threat

806
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: in the Pacific, especially you know India's I mean, I

807
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: agree with that. You know, you've got to cut them

808
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: some slack, especially because when you look at you know,

809
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: they're kind of in a various positions sandwich between Pakistan

810
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: and and uh in China, and you know two foes,

811
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, Pakistan and the Indians that that hate, that

812
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: bad blood goes back thousands of years. Yeah, I mean,

813
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: they fought a war in the nineteen fifties. It's a

814
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: interesting relationship they have. And then there's everything going on

815
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: with Burma right next door as well, so they have

816
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: a lot on their plate. Yeah, that's a that's another

817
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: horrible humanitarian crisis going on in Burma and Bangladesh. You know,

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00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I saw I think I heard in the BBC that

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Speaker 1: with the Rhanga Muslims that have been kind of pushed

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Speaker 1: out of their lands and Burma at the Bangladesh authorities

821
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Speaker 1: are thinking about sending them to a deserted island and

822
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: making that like their new homeland. Yeah. India also has

823
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: tremendous domestic issues internally to overcome UM, which regarding I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I can't speak to it, uh, you know, with

825
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: any kind of expertise, but I mean I've read enough

826
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: to see that from issues with poverty, UM, to UM

827
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Speaker 1: trying to create a modern economy in that country, to UM,

828
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, issues related to the cast system. All these

829
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: things kind of intertwined with one another in India and

830
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: UM they're trying to modernize very quickly. They've also kind

831
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Speaker 1: of experienced some of the evil side of social media.

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Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, there are some stories out where

833
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Speaker 1: a lynch mobs were organizing using what'sapp or some kind

834
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: of other yea like that. I would argue that UM

835
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: killing people of lower cast systems or lower casts in India.

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Speaker 1: That's something that's been going on in rural areas for

837
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Speaker 1: decades and If anything, social media is just making it

838
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: um more apparent, um more in people's faces than you know,

839
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Speaker 1: lynching would have been in the past, which is probably

840
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing for some of the

841
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: actual assaults UM that have you know, really um come

842
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: to prominence because of social media UM and you know

843
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: forced it's probably forced the Indian government to actually take

844
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: some tangible actions, whereas in the past it would have

845
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: gotten swept under the rug. So I guess they're they're

846
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: different ways of looking at it. Yeah, I think they're

847
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: going through their kind of their own version of the

848
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: me too movement as we speak, to an extreme, but yeah, yeah,

849
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: you're right. So and then uh, also with the oil

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00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, we got Hurricane Michael out on the Gulf.

851
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I just thought today we're going to evacuate some of

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Speaker 1: our rigs. So we always one of those things where

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Speaker 1: you have ongoing issues like you know, the Iranian sanctions,

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Speaker 1: and then you have kind of short acute issues like

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Speaker 1: you know, natural disasters that can affect the market as well.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it's an ever it's an ever changing

857
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Speaker 1: ever fluid commodity. You're you're from Florida originally, by the way,

858
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Speaker 1: is your area being hit by that, or family members

859
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Speaker 1: or anything like at No, I grew up on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast, but um I went to school and Tallassee

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Speaker 1: in the in the panel, So they're gonna get They're

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Speaker 1: gonna get wet. All my friends that still work E

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Speaker 1: M S where I used to work, I see they're

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Speaker 1: all getting ready to work over time and extra shifts.

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Speaker 1: I wish them. I wish them luck. Yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we have listeners who are going to be hit up

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Speaker 1: by that. I mean all over America and everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we uh, you keep us update and

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Speaker 1: we hope everybody stays as safe as possible during that.

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Speaker 1: So any anyway, I'm just wondering, Joe, at what other

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Speaker 1: pieces do you have in the works for the future

872
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Speaker 1: that we can look forward to. Um I just did

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00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: one the other day about emerging markets. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, emerging markets are countries that are developing economies,

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Speaker 1: but they're not they haven't mature to the point where

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Speaker 1: like the US Stock Exchange or Shanghai is. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just at a piece about that. Lot of people are

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Speaker 1: looking to emerging markets right now is a good place

879
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: to invest because prices are so low, but it's not

880
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Speaker 1: a sure thing. And the problem with the emerging markets

881
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: is a lot of those countries have really unstable or

882
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Speaker 1: fragile political systems which can change the economy overnight. You know,

883
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Speaker 1: Brazil is a perfect example. You know, they think they

884
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Speaker 1: just elected the new president, the guy who was stabbed

885
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Speaker 1: the campaign trail, remember that story. Yeah, I haven't been

886
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Speaker 1: following Brazilian politics. Quite frankly, I can't. I know, I don't.

887
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Speaker 1: I don't blame you, but I'm just it's you know,

888
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Speaker 1: emerging markets is interesting because it's another thing where it

889
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Speaker 1: looks like a sure thing, but the political situation in

890
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Speaker 1: the country can change it overnight. And you see that

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Speaker 1: a lot more so than and developed countries that have

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Speaker 1: a more stable and an older government. Well, I said that.

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00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: They say the same thing about Mexico, right that it

894
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Speaker 1: has a tremendous natural resources and should be a global

895
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Speaker 1: economic powerhouse, but because of the domestic political situation in Mexico,

896
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Speaker 1: they just can't get there at this at this time

897
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Speaker 1: right in Mexico was a speaking of other stories. You know,

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Speaker 1: we just signed the new NAFTA ASK agreement with Mexico

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Speaker 1: and Canada, so that's gonna bring. It should bring more

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Speaker 1: manufacturing jobs to the US UM and I think it

901
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: allows our dairy farmers to sell their product in Canada.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of the two big, two big wins

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Speaker 1: for the United States. Be interesting to see how that

904
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Speaker 1: plays out. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen a lot of criticism

905
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: of it online because of the fact that Trump was

906
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: so anti NAFTA, and people are saying, you know, is

907
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: this just NAFTA two point out right? There's not that.

908
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Speaker 1: There's not a ton of differences, and and each country

909
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Speaker 1: I think walked away with a concession they wanted. You know,

910
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Speaker 1: I think Canada really held onto the dairy the dairy

911
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: farm issue for a long time, but they ultimately wanted,

912
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Speaker 1: uh something written in the contract, a mechanism that would

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Speaker 1: allow Canada and I'd take it's to settle trade disputes.

914
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Speaker 1: And that was something we caved on and finally gave them.

915
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Speaker 1: So now there's that the new even the new NAFTA

916
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Speaker 1: still has that provision set up that allows Canada to

917
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Speaker 1: you know, challenge some of our trades practices, especially with

918
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Speaker 1: lumber like out in the Pacific Northwest. Interesting man, So

919
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Speaker 1: check out Joe's work on the News Rap Joseph Lafay

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Speaker 1: anything else that you're plugging Before we wrap this up,

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Speaker 1: this has been a great discussion, man. Yeah, yeah, I

924
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. Guys, this is my first time coming

925
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Speaker 1: on a podcast. There if I was all over the place,

926
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Speaker 1: not at all umbling. We'll do it again. But um,

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Speaker 1: i'd like to you know, we talked about Ed Ed

928
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Speaker 1: Derek earlier. He's got two books coming out in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen that I'm really excited for. The first it's called

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Speaker 1: War Moments. It's going to be a collection of pictures

931
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Speaker 1: he's taken of military personnel at home and during deployments.

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Speaker 1: And if you're familiar with that work, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: a great photo photographer as well. Um, you know, he

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Speaker 1: did the his his picture was on the cover of

935
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Speaker 1: Wore Men Were When Glory about Pat Tillman, and his

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Speaker 1: photography has been been featured in a lot of different magazines.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be some of the pictures he's

938
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Speaker 1: posted online. And I mean, yeah, you're absolutely I agree.

939
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Speaker 1: He's a super talented photographer. Yeah, and and and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll say this having taken my own photos

941
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Speaker 1: of the National Guard when I was embedded with him.

942
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Speaker 1: It's it's tough. It's photography is something that you definitely

943
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Speaker 1: have to work at. I definitely struggle with for him

944
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Speaker 1: to be able to produce his images. He's definitely talented individual.

945
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Speaker 1: And a second book, I'm not sure if it's titled yet,

946
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Speaker 1: but it's going to be about another group of Marines

947
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Speaker 1: and I've been Aniston as well, similar to Victory Point.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome so them. If you want to check out

949
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Speaker 1: the episode we actually did with Ed Derek, that's one

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Speaker 1: of our highest um stream are you know, highest numbers

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Speaker 1: we've had streams for an episode that was episode three

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Speaker 1: fifteen where we talked about extortion seventeen. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have Ed back on when those books come. Yeah. Absolutely,

954
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: he was an excellent guest. Yeah, it's a great guy

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Speaker 1: and like I said, a wealth of information. Awesome man,

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Speaker 1: Well thanks for doing this with us, Joe. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: exit out of Joe's window here as we finished you

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Speaker 1: live stream and we'll have you on again to Joe. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Cool. Well, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: You'll see this up tomorrow on now it will be

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Speaker 1: about two thirds of the way through it, and it's

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Speaker 1: those guys on next week. Yeah, it'll be it'll be

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Speaker 1: up a week from Friday if you're listening to this

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Speaker 1: but we moved it. Um, but we're gonna have both

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Speaker 1: sometimes I don't. Kyle Mills. Kyle Mills next episode, UM,

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Speaker 1: I believe this week. And I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: wrapped this up, I know you were talking about Nikki

1041
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Speaker 1: Haley resigning. Yeah, I mean that's big Yeah, reports on

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Speaker 1: the press. I mean, I don't think the whole story

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Speaker 1: uh that President Trump accepted accepted her resignation. So it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that story plays out, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not. We don't really know the reason for the

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