1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: The following presentation of the Jaguars Podcast Network is presented 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: by by Start Credit. Mark Brunel is still in many 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: ways the face of the franchise in Jacksonville, though it's 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: been nearly two decades since he last pulled on the 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: teal eight. More than any other player, the quarterback, who 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: is hand selected by Tom Coughlin to lead his first team, 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: represents the golden era of Jaguars football. Or thirty eight 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: or thirty seven four thirty six? Can the Jaguars make 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: something happen? Cornell under center and sends Keen an emotion 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: from the near to the far side. He'll take the 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: snap and drop back to throw pressure coming. He's dumping 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: out to the near side, pump back. It cuts across 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the fifty franks and tackle of the forty five. He's 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: at the forty Mark Burnell running to the far side, left, 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: turn the corner thirty five thirty down to the inside, 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: both leaping for the twenty one. Mark Burnell with a 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: masterful run of twenty nine yards, and the clock continues 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: to run. This is perspectives the story of the Jaguars 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: first twenty five years as told by the people who 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: built the franchise. This is Mark Brunell, the scrambling style, 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: the guns lingers bravado, the big winds and crushing losses. 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Mark Brunell lived the early years of the Jaguars and 23 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: years later. In some respects, it seems as if he 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: simply survived them. His name hangs high above the field 25 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: in the stadium he once lorded over as the quarterback, 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: as the gladiator whose name was praised every Sunday. But 27 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't as easy as the warm, charming man who 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: isn't afraid of his legacy might lead you to believe 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: I was never a great quarterback. You won't look back 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: and say, you know, Mark Burnell was a great quarterback, 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: but I had some great moments. Brunelle and his teammates 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: didn't have many of those through the first twenty seven 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: games the Jaguars played in ninety six, sure, the win 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: in Houston to secure victory for the first time, and 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: the inaugural win over the Steelers in the inaugural season 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: gave everyone a taste of the glory that lay ahead. 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: In November, when a club fractured by mounting losses, a 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: difficult and demanding coach plus a polarizing player began a 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: run that would lead them to the brink of something special. 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: Pat is on their feet. The holder is Dan Strazinski. 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: The Jaguars playoffs hopes may indeed rest on display. It 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: is from thirty one yards. There's the snap the place, 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: but the kick is up. It's on the way, and 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: it's no good. It's no god, it's so good best 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are going to the class. Oh my goodness. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Nobody was more relieved that Morton had missed that kick 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: than I. We had the game won before that drive, 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: before the Falcons took that down and got got Morton 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: in field goal range with a third down, third and eight, 50 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: six thirty. I don't remember what it was, but I 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: remember thinking in the huddle, all right, we got this 52 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: play if we just you know, we're kind of in 53 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: four minute drill. We get a completion, we get a 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: first down. This is ours. So it's a big third down. 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Because we don't remember the time, the specifics, I just 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: remember how important this third down was. So the play, 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: whatever the call was to, I go through my reads 58 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: while I decided to throw out to the comeback comebacks 59 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: wide open um. He catches the comeback. I don't even 60 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: remember the receiver, Brian. He catches the comeback, it's the 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: first down. We got another set of downs chances though, 62 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: We're going to ride this out in four minute offense 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and win the game. I bounced it to him, bounce 64 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it to him, wide open, and I just remember, now, 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: you didn't know you did? You? Just you know, comebacks 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: aren't the easiest to throw. But listen, UM, at least 67 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: get it in the general vicinity of the receiver. Um incomplete, 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: we gotta punt. They get it back. And so I'm thinking, 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you complete one pass, this team's going 70 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: to playoffs. And I was just overwhelmed by it. I'm 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: on the sideline and I'm I'm sick to my stomach. 72 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: I just I can't stand myself. I'm thinking, oh no, 73 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: And you know you always say, you know, it's never 74 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: one player, it's never one play. You know that causes you. 75 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, sometimes it is. Sometimes it's one player. Sometimes 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: it's one play. And that would have been on me. 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: And um, he misses that field goal. I thought I couldn't. 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. Morton doesn't miss from 79 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: that distance. Just doesn't miss so anyway, Uh Buffalo, no 80 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: chance gonna be called Jim Kelly, k gun. They never 81 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: lose up there. All right, let's give a shot, Brian. 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: That was it. Let us go up there and compete 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: and see what happens. No one gives us a chance. 84 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: Most of the guys in the locker room probably, you know, 85 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: if they were being truthful, didn't give us a chance. 86 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's go play football. We've got a little role here. Obviously, 87 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: we've we've we're getting a couple breaks. We're here. Let's 88 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: go compete and see what happens. That was it there? 89 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: What's it anything like? Hey, I know it's Jim Kelly. 90 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna go up there. Some guys might have been 91 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: spouting off all the confidence they had, and you know, 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: we've got some momentum and all this stuff bull crap. 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: Nobody thought we could win that game. Um, and I 94 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to say that, but you know, 95 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: it's just the odds are stacked against you. We were 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: just happy to be there. And some guys might give 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: you a different perspective and see say different things and 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: and and for me, I just thought, well, I get 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: to go against Jim Kelly in his place in a 100 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: playoff game day. It's pretty cool. Um, we just went 101 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: up there and played Get off the bus, it's cold, snow, 102 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: gotta walk through some hotel. It wasn't overly impressive, stayed 103 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: in the walk in there is just miserable, but it 104 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: was where Jim Kelly made his career. Get some great players, 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: and uh see what happens? Was it all I can 106 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: give you? I think I threw a couple of picks. 107 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Clyd Simmons had a couple of big plays. Defense came 108 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: up when we needed them to. Uh, Natron ran well. 109 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: Um receivers, Kenyan, Jimmy did well. I think I had 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: to pick six. That didn't help things. So but I'll 111 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: tell you what. It was a team that, regardless of 112 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: how they thought this game would go, we still went 113 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: up there and we thought, you know what, we're going 114 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: to compete and no matter how ugly it gets early on, 115 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: no matter how bad it might seem for four quarters, 116 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: this group is going to fight. This group is gonna 117 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: try to make a play. This this team has some grit, 118 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: there's some there's some resolve about them. We're gonna go 119 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: out there and compete. We got no business being on 120 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: this field. We had no business being in the playoffs. 121 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: But here we're here, we are We're gonna go and 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: together we're gonna go compete and see how this turns out. 123 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: That was it. That was it, That was it, and 124 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: we won. Made some plays at the end. You gotta 125 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: make some place. What I loved about that was that 126 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: we are able to We were able to overcome some 127 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: really really bad place plays that lose games for you. Um, 128 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: we also were able to come up with that big 129 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: play that wins games for you. So you got both 130 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: in one game, you know, And and that's why it 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: was a close game. I think it was thirty seven. 132 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: It went down to the end, and we had guys 133 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: step up and we had guys go out there that 134 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: just did their job. It was Tony signature game as 135 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: a pro. It was Natron's his his runs. I had 136 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: a couple of throws in there, Clyde Simmons. Within that game, 137 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: there were a career identifying moments and we all kind 138 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: of got to be a part of them, which was 139 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of cool. The thing about the Buffalo game is 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: that we go to Denver. All that Denver kind of 141 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: overshadowed how great Buffalo was. Would have talked a lot 142 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: about it. It's amazing. It was as big, if not bigger, 143 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: than Denver. The only difference is one got you to 144 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. One got you into 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: the next round. So um, just a great moment. Love 146 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: that game. The euphoria of that when alone could have 147 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: carried them back to Jacksonville, but the fans who lined 148 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the road from the airport to that night to welcome 149 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: them home built their belief into something that would lift 150 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: them a mile high that day. Uh. Personally, I got 151 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: to play against John Elway. I went to the Stanford 152 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: football camp when I was a sophomore in high school 153 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: and guess who was there? John Elway. His dad was, 154 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: His dad was, Jack was the head coach of Stanford 155 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: at the time. I'm remembering my years correctly. I just 156 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: know I was on Stanford's campus and John Elway he 157 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: was there. He's one of my favorites. Um how, he 158 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: is my favorite growing up. Um California kid. Anyway, just 159 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: a chance to compete against him, I thought was pretty cool. Now, 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: we stepped into Denver a little with a little different 161 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: mindset that we stepped into buffalo. Um, more confidence, momentum, 162 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: little swag about us. We didn't use that word back then, swag, 163 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: but we thought, you know, going in again, what were 164 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: they thirteen and three or something again and all the 165 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: stuff on the outside. You haven chance, John elwill you 166 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: can't do it two weeks in a row. All right, 167 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: same approach, but just a little bit more confident. We 168 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: just did it. Maybe we could pull it off again. 169 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: We get that first quarter and I think it's twelve 170 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: to nothing. No chance, right, no chance. But again, you know, 171 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: let's just keep competing, let's just keep fighting. Let's make 172 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: some plays. I'll see what happens. Maybe I get it 173 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: down to the end, we pull it off. That's what happened. 174 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Made some plays offensively, defensively. Um, it was cool. I 175 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: never looked at the papers. I don't remember jaguards until afterwards. 176 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't. It was just it was a great moment. 177 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: It was really really cool. The fly over. I wasn't 178 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: a fan of the flyover. I didn't like it. I 179 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: didn't like anything about it. It was too soon to me, 180 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: it was it was it was rushed. Don't we have 181 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: more work to do? Why? Why are we doing this 182 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: big celebration coming home with forty thousand or whatever it 183 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: was in the stadium. We've got another, We've got the 184 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. I never liked it. Then 185 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: looking back, I didn't. I didn't like it didn't feel right. 186 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: It was I get it. The fans loved it, and 187 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: it still talked about. I didn't want to get on 188 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: a microphone in front of all those people. Love them. 189 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: I thought it was great that they were out the 190 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: support and it was an awesome moment, but even at gosh, 191 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: what was I twenty five at the time. I hadn't 192 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: been around a long time, but I thought this, this 193 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: is not right. I didn't like it. It just was. 194 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: It was just too soon. And yeah, great moment, but 195 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: for me, person link, I thought it was the wrong 196 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: thing to do. More perspectives following this from Vistar Credit 197 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: Union advice star. We believe in better and that means 198 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: treating people better with friendly personal service that's kept our 199 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: members happy since nineto. 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The windows slam shut on 209 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: a human night in New York when Giants linebacker Jesse 210 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Armstead's helmet and the quarterbacks need collided and set the 211 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars future to this side line, or so it seemed. 212 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I hope you can appreciate that through the sound of 213 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: your car radio, your scary oh at home, wherever you 214 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: may be. The shame thing along our network. Mark Brunel, 215 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: number eight is on the field. The track wards are 216 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: on Monday Night football and the energy is unbelievable here 217 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: at all Tells Stadium. I knew it was a big deal, 218 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: but to me, it wasn't that big a deal. I 219 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: had done this in college. I had hurt my knee 220 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: in college m c O A c L major reconstruction. UM, 221 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: so I'd hurt my knee before and um and I 222 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: had come back from that. So when I hurt. When 223 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: I hurt my knee again, like I'm coming back. I've 224 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: done it before. I don't know how long it's gonna take, 225 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: don't know how bad it is. Um, But I I never, 226 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: I never thought I was in jeopardy of losing my team, um, 227 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: whether it was Rob or Steve. In my mind, it 228 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: was all right, hold down the fort. I'm gonna get 229 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: back as fast as I can. In college now, granted 230 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I was eight nineteen years old. I came back from 231 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: an A c L and M c L in five months. 232 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: It was fast. It's fast, and I thought, all right, 233 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: I guess if there's a moment on this whole thing 234 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: to brag on myself, it would be this. I worked. 235 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: I worked, I worked hard and uh in the weight room, 236 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: whether it was rehab, treatment, treatment, it was something. There 237 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: was something about being the strongest I could be, being 238 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: the fastest I could be, getting back as fast as 239 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I can, UM. And I knew I would work, and 240 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I woul knew they'd do the right things. And I 241 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: knew if they said it was gonna be four weeks, 242 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna make it too. Never never doubt that. 243 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Um so um, we get into the opening, not being 244 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: there for opening day. It was excruciating. It was hard. 245 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I wanted Rob to do well for Rob because he 246 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: was really Rob was was my favorite backup. Whole another story, 247 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: whole other story. But Rob, Rob had my back. Wasn't 248 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: trying to get my job. It wasn't competitive. We were 249 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: friends two ends the spectrum as far as personalities. But 250 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I loved him, um protecting me, help me for a 251 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: young guy, knew the right things that anyway, I wanted 252 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: Rob to do well. I wanted us to win. And 253 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: but I would be lying to you if I told 254 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you I'm looking at him, I'm thinking when he's playing 255 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: real well in Baltimo, I'm thinking Rob's pretty good. I'd 256 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: better get back real quick. I better hurry, I'd better 257 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: hurry my ass up. And uh, I wanted to be 258 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,239 Speaker 1: out there so bad. And then and then Steve Matthews 259 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: the Giants game Week two, I thought, we don't have 260 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: a chance. That Joker goes out there and he had 261 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: five run plays and maybe ten passes in the in 262 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the game plan that and it goes out there and 263 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: franchise record for to two points. I'm thinking, gosh, anybody 264 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: can do this. If Matthews can't. No, I'm just I'm 265 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: just kidding. I was happy for him, but then I 266 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: got back, Um, I shouldn't have played that game. Wasn't ready, 267 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: couldn't move, hurt like a mother. Um, but I faked it. 268 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: I convinced the who I needed to convince. I get 269 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: just enough on the on the testing, whatever it was 270 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I think it was. I forget the name of the 271 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: machine and stuff. Yes it was the Cibex. I hated 272 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: that Sibex was horrible. Convinced Mike Uh said the right 273 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: things to Tom, said the right things to Dr Lucy 274 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: and Dr Tangerin. They just, I mean, just barely, you know. 275 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: It was enough to clear me. I just wanted to 276 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: get out there and compete. I wasn't gonna miss Monday Night. 277 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I just wasn't. I can't. It's my team, I miss it. Um. 278 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: I was the best chance to win. I was their 279 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: best chance to win, and so I had to be 280 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: out there. That was it. Brunelle and the wonderfully talented 281 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars would win three out of every four games they 282 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: played to the next three seasons, making the playoffs every 283 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: year and making their fans giddy as they climbed higher 284 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: and higher into that stratosphere reserved for those teams with 285 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl credentials. Smith and McCardell, Hardy and Brackens, Tony 286 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: and Taylor thrilled fans and built the demand for the 287 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: NFL and Jacksonville. No victory in franchise history inflamed expectations 288 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: like the sixty seven title way that wiped out Miami 289 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: a week later, though the losses were nearly as devastating 290 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: in the home team's locker room. By far the most 291 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: painful moment Um as a Jaguar. I'm still not over it. 292 00:17:53,760 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: I never will be UM. And it was not career defining, 293 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: but a moment that could have been Um very career defining, 294 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. Quarterbacks responsibilities, You've got one job. 295 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: One job is a starting quarterback, is to win a 296 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for your team. Anything short of that you've failed. Obviously, 297 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: there are situations and circumstances, and but that's the ultimate goal. 298 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: We got. We got really close that year to achieving 299 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: that goal. And why I'll never get over it. It'll 300 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: never I'll never stop feeling the pain when that game 301 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: comes to mind, or when it's when we talk about it, 302 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: when I re about it. When I hear about it, 303 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: it'll never stop hurting because in my mind, if I 304 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: play better, we win. If I play better, we win, 305 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: um marked And you know that, no, no, no, no no. 306 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: If I play better, we win. That's the job of 307 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Um if and interception here, interception there, misread. 308 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: There's only a few plays that I remember from that game, 309 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: none of which are are very good. If I played better, 310 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: we win. And that's that's tough. That's hard to swallow, 311 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. Winning, especially the kind 312 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: of winning the Jaguars were accustomed to, can stand down 313 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: rough edges and at least create the illusion of smoothness. 314 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: That wasn't always the case when it came to the 315 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: relationship between Brunelle and Conflin. Not unlike Lombardi and Star 316 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: or Nolan Bradshaw, the demands of a coach who never 317 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: seemed to look back after winning and never look forward 318 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: after losing, took its toll, as losing took over in Jacksonville. 319 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: That's who Tom was. There's nothing bad about that, but 320 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: at times it was hard. It was hard for all 321 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: of us. But he here's what, here's here's Tom. What 322 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: I what I appreciate more what I appreciate now, more 323 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: than I ever did. I mentioned that his expectations were high. 324 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: They were they have to be, but you always knew 325 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: where you stood. It's not the case with a lot 326 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: of head coaches. I had other head coaches, and you 327 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: didn't know where you stood. I had coaches say, hey, 328 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: you're doing great, Love how you're competing. The next week, 329 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: I'm benched. Wait, wait, wait a minute, what about you? 330 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Love how I'm competing. You knew where you stood. He 331 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: demanded a lot out of you, and if you didn't 332 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: meet those demands, you were going to have conversations with him. 333 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that too. Um. He was probably more 334 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: firm with me because I was the quarterback, and I 335 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: don't know if he would say this, maybe more than 336 00:20:54,119 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: he needed to be at times, um understanding that I 337 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't handle his critique or his coaching the way I 338 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: should have. I didn't always handle it real well. I 339 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: walked out of his office more times than not, really 340 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: piste off. A lot of that had to do. And 341 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: I can only speak for myself, my maturity level, and 342 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: really my perspective because I needed to understand at that 343 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: time more that he's trying to make me better. He's 344 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: trying to communicate to me where I stand. He's trying 345 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: to communicate expectations that he had of me. Um, it 346 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm not his quarterback. It doesn't mean he 347 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: thinks he made the wrong decision. It doesn't mean that 348 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: he doesn't like me as the guy. Tom's perspective was 349 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: all right, I've got to get this kid better. I 350 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: gotta get him performing at a higher level. And how 351 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: he and that's how Tom did it. That's who Tom was. 352 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: I didn't understand that as much at the time. Um, 353 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I would get upset. I would get you know, mad, 354 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: I would stomp off, Gosh, I'm down here too much? 355 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: And man, I got we we won the game, Like, yeah, 356 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: I threw an interception, but we won the game. Why 357 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: do I have to come down here? Um? So, But 358 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: I looked back now, and I and and I think, 359 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: you know what, one guy that gave me a shot. 360 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: There's one guy that brought me to Jacksonville. There's one 361 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: guy that said, Mark Bronell, you're my guy, and we 362 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: you are our franchise cary at one guy that's Tom Coughlin. 363 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: So I maybe not have liked how he coached. And 364 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I may have been I might have been upset at times. 365 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: I may have might have been disappointed or or you know, 366 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: stopped off and pouted or it was mad or all 367 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Okay, but guess what, that guy gave 368 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: me my shot. And if he doesn't, you know, I 369 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I ever get a team. Who knows? 370 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: Who knows? But Tom Tom Coffin gave me my shot. 371 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: And I am forever grateful and I am for ever 372 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: indebted to him, for him believing in me. Um. And 373 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: you know what, the way he coached me, it worked, 374 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: It got me better, It lit a fire. Um and uh, 375 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: I've always respected him, I've um and I've always been 376 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: grateful for him giving me my chance. More perspectives following 377 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: this from Vistar Credit Union Advice Star. 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When Margat arrived in Jacksonville 386 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: in the spring of ninety five, he knew of plenty 387 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: of people in the organization, but he didn't know many 388 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: of them personally. By the end of the ninety season, 389 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: one man would have a dramatic impact on his life 390 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and to this day. You know, when 391 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I think about Tony, I we were we were introduced, 392 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: we were brought together because of Tom coffin, the Jacksonville Jaguars, 393 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: the city of Jacksonville. I get that, but we've been 394 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: we've been really good friends now best friends for over 395 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: two decades, and most of our relationship, you know, go 396 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: so far beyond football. M h. We don't even we 397 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: don't even talk about football. We don't relive those moments. 398 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: Hey remember that game a Buffalo. Hey you remember that 399 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: one summer up in Stevens Point. Gosh, you remember that one. 400 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: It just doesn't come up, Brian, it just doesn't. That's 401 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: not that's not how we are connected. That's how we 402 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: initially got connected. But now going forward, Hey, he's my 403 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: best friend, he's like your brother. Um, things go something 404 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: really cool happens, we have a baby, he's there. Um, 405 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: we have to go through a tough time, house catches 406 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: on fire, he's there. Um. I could give you countless 407 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: examples of the good and the bad in our lives, 408 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: both sides. We just make sure we're there. That's what 409 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: best friends do. UM, recently had breakfast doesn't happen often, 410 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: but I need I need it. I need to be 411 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: able to connect and catch up. And sometimes it it's 412 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: it's three weeks, sometimes it's a month. We talked to 413 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: each other at least once a week. Letten, he's my 414 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: best friend, just like everyone listening here probably has a 415 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: best friend, and you can identify I don't I uh, 416 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: best way to put this. I wouldn't want to do 417 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: life without him. Um. I've got some very valuable, valuable relationships, 418 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: and I have some really close friends. Um, but uh, 419 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: none more closer than my friend Tony. It's um, yeah, 420 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: he's my guy. Tony's running Jacksonville ended after two thousand one. 421 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: Tom's last days were in two thousand two. Mark followed 422 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand three. I understood when Tom was fired. 423 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: When you get a new head coach, they typically bring 424 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: in a quarterback. I understand. I understood that, but we 425 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: hired Jack del Rio. He was a former player, so 426 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: he didn't really fit into the This is what head 427 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: coaches do, mold Um. I had played against him. We're 428 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: both packed ten guys. We weren't friends, but I you know, 429 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: I played against him when he was in Minnesota. I 430 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: was with Green Bay, and Um, in my mind, I thought, 431 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: all right, this is a new start. I'm the guy here. 432 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: I've got plenty of football left. I feel good about this. 433 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: We're getting up to the draft and I'm hearing rumblings 434 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: about they might take a quarterback in the first round. 435 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: I had a position coach come up to me and said, listen, 436 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: listen all that crap. We're not taking a quarterback in 437 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: the first round. Fair enough. I think I'm out of 438 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback challenge or some event down and out in 439 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: l A or something on the West Coast. Drafts going on, 440 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Drafts going on. They've got like Quarterback Club or something 441 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: like that. I'm throwing a football around in the sand 442 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: and I'm not really paying attention to the draft, but 443 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: I am because I've heard some things about about possibly 444 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback and it wasn't just Jack and Shack 445 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: was here, and so I thought there was a possibility that, 446 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they take somebody some kind of looking. 447 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Sure enough, uh, Jaguars picked Byron left, which I knew 448 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: I was gone. That was it. I knew my days 449 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: were numbered. Now I knew I would, in all likelihoods 450 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: start the next season. I knew that if depending on 451 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: how things go, determine how much playing time I would get. 452 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: I knew two things if I wanted to keep my job, 453 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: I had to win early and stay healthy. Neither one 454 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: of those happened. I cut open my elbow, ended up 455 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: you know where, oh and three cut up my elbow. 456 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: That was it for me. And I knew that golden 457 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: era shined to the Jaguars fans, but it wasn't as 458 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: glamorous to be Mark Brunell. An entire city rolled out 459 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: the red carpet, but oftentimes Brunell found himself wanting to 460 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: step off it and out of the limelight. He enjoyed 461 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: the city so much he returned years later and now 462 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: it's home. But those days back in the nineties weren't easy, 463 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: and clearly they wore on it so much so that 464 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: he needed to talk about one moment it wasn't so good, 465 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: as if clearing the air would lift some of the 466 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: burden of having been less than perfect on and off 467 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: the field. I remember going to doing a radio show 468 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: and I was going to be there for I think 469 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna talk on the radio for an hour 470 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: and I was gonna sign for an hour. Maybe this 471 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: was just a signing thing. Maybe I was just signing 472 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: somewhere where I was at Sears for a period of 473 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: time and I was gonna sign for this time. That 474 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: was the agreed time. Well it was supposed to sign 475 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: for an hour, but it was a two hour line. 476 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: Nobody knew back then. All right, well, you know, we 477 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: gotta cut this line off. And this just stands out 478 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: to me, and I feel terrible about it. At one hour, 479 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: Mark Burnell gets up and walks out, leaving an hour 480 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: of people right there. I got cursed at I got this, 481 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, just yelling at me as I'm walking out 482 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: of the serious and I thought, man, I wish I 483 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: was I wish I handled that better, you know what 484 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean. Life is different from Brunel these days. The 485 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: guy who arrived at quarterback is now a coach, and 486 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: no matter how that road twisted and turned over the 487 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: last fifteen years. He's grateful to be right here right now. 488 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Things are really really good and it has everything to 489 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: do with that trade and late April and nineteen that 490 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: was the beginning of something really special. There are moments 491 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: in your life that launch you into your destiny. There 492 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: are moments in your life that just take you wherever 493 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: you're you, take you out of where you are, throw 494 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: you into a new environment, situation. You don't even know 495 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: what it means, but you look back you think wow. 496 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Jackson