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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the met Stuff Podcast, Episode number ninety nine, the

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Speaker 1: Turk Wendel episode What Away From a big milestone here

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Speaker 1: of one hundred episodes of the Mets the podcast. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll have a nice celebration episode for the next one

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Speaker 1: for you guys. Yeah, I'm teasing the news. We're so close.

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Speaker 1: We're so close, it's crazy. It's about to be nuts

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Speaker 1: when we do get to say the things that we

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Speaker 1: want to say, but hey, that's not what you're here

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Speaker 1: to listen about. You want to know our thoughts and

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Speaker 1: opinions on what just happened against the San Diego Padres,

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Speaker 1: a series in which the Mets lost and didn't particularly

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Speaker 1: play too well. Maybe one of the worst played series

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Speaker 1: that we've had all year. I think the worst played

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good ones. So it's more so

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Speaker 1: that like it, it wasn't a win.

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Speaker 2: Think about it. Logically, it's the third series the Mets lost,

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Speaker 2: and it was the least games they were actually in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if this was a four game series,

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Speaker 1: they split the series.

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Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, this is the tipe of clearly turned for

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Speaker 2: game four, much like the Dodger series and that Brave

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Speaker 2: series from way back.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna talk about all the games with

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Speaker 1: you guys, all the pitching matchups, everything that was going on.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot to talk about, so we will

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Speaker 1: podcast for all that. So I don't need to bring

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Speaker 1: in James because he already spoke. You guys saw him.

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Speaker 1: You see, we're in the office again. We're in the studio,

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Speaker 1: and the studio episodes are always electric. This one, particularly

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Speaker 1: because it's currently one sixteen am. This might be the

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Speaker 1: latest we've ever recorded outside of the Max suser Drunk

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Speaker 2: It's probably the latest we've ever recorded in person. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because we will. We'll do them in our own apartments,

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Speaker 2: just however late it goes. But this is this is

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Speaker 2: the latest I've been in Queens. If Max Shares are

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Speaker 2: hours since you lived in Queens, yes, since that moves here.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with game one. It was a legendary

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Speaker 1: Keith and Gary game. They were on another level.

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Speaker 2: It was the words, the phrases that these guys were

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Speaker 2: saying was something out of I don't even know what.

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Speaker 2: That also kind of comes with the territory of Ronnie

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Speaker 2: now you know, become like the buttoned up professional. He's

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Speaker 2: He wears you know, Ronnie like he kind of dressed

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Speaker 2: Keith and Garrett just got crazy. They called the Padres

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Speaker 2: uniforms muster than mud, which is, see that one right

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Speaker 1: One point fifteen in the morning. Yeah, no, that would

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Speaker 2: That's a helmet. It's hard muster than mud. Keith, this

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Speaker 2: joke went really crazy on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He said the Mets were stroking it out, which is

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Speaker 1: just that's like it's way past Keith. Spend time Keith

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Speaker 2: Well, Also, it was kind of like a double innuendo

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Speaker 2: we're old men here, we don't want strokes. I think

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Speaker 2: most people took it like sexually. I think it did

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Speaker 2: There was one point when the Mets were hitting Blake

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Speaker 2: Snell he said that the Mets were blowing his drawers off,

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Speaker 2: made that sexual again too. Would you don't really love

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Speaker 2: to hear and then he went ballistic. I remember over

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Speaker 2: a seeing I single. I feel like it was by

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Speaker 2: a run. He was like, oh, that's good baseball man.

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Speaker 2: This was the Padres had not even a Mets it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're dropping names. The names that he

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Speaker 1: baseball players? I believe Walter Mathou was like this. I

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Speaker 2: That kind of feels right too. But these guys were

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Speaker 2: this was the one game of the series that the

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Speaker 2: Mets played very well and actually wound up winning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought this was gonna be signs of good

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell just did not have it from the start.

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Speaker 2: He was just very Blake Snell. He gave up three

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Speaker 2: in Edward the Wescobar at the beginning of his very

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Speaker 2: big night, got a two run, two out single to

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Speaker 2: give the Mets a three to nothing lead in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course Blake Snell doesn't make it past

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Speaker 1: that like eighty eight percent of the time that he's

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Speaker 1: which is just insane for a guy who won a

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Speaker 2: But there's also very Blake snellish because he had the

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Speaker 2: awful first inning than Rubin Dieblo. So guy's name wrong

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Speaker 2: Very Blake Snell. Then he came back out for the

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Speaker 2: of trouble getting through many Michabo made one of the

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Speaker 2: funniest errors I've ever seen the beginning of the inning.

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Speaker 2: Snell dropped his shoulders like he likes to do by language,

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Speaker 2: So very blake. Snell fashion gave a bunch of runs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the boys continue to swing the bat throughout

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Speaker 1: I mean, we ended up losing the series and getting

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Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed the next two games, but with this start,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Carrasco, I thought, has best start of the entire year,

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Speaker 2: So shallow Crasco for that one. But Crasco went seven

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Speaker 1: Well, they were talking about how the Padres don't chase,

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Speaker 1: they're one of the always chased for eight teams in

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Speaker 1: I mean, the numbers don't lie. Seven editnings, ten k's

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Speaker 1: tour and runs he was dominant. Yeah, I just said,

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Speaker 2: But the big thing with Carrasco here Mark mentioned the

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Speaker 2: Padres hitters chasing. They did a lot and a big

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Speaker 2: reason for that. I think, I don't know it's for sure,

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Speaker 2: but hypothesizing it. I've talked about this a lot with

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Speaker 2: his four seam fastball, his slider, and his change up

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Speaker 2: and each of those secondaries, especially where dominant, each had

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Speaker 2: seven whiffs, and that was a lot of the chasing

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Speaker 2: you talked about and the slyther I thought especially took

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Speaker 2: a step forward for Carrasco in this game, not really

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Speaker 2: not like, remember we saw that tweet that someone's breaking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god said that. I don't remember who

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Speaker 1: Escobar is finally having his breakout, which.

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Speaker 2: Is hilarious, not really true. I remember who said that.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to fame anybody, but you can't. It's hard

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Speaker 2: to break out at this age when your skills are

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Speaker 2: kind of, you know, settled, more likely for a pitcher,

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Speaker 2: because pitchers things can change quickly. But San Diego packed

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Speaker 2: this lineup with lefties, very left handed heavy lineup in

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Speaker 2: every game this series. I think they just have a

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Speaker 2: consistent with it. He was burying them. He was able

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Speaker 1: Looked very good.

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Speaker 1: It's like every single time the Mets play a team

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Speaker 2: Crazy stuff going on here, talking about.

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Speaker 1: when they was actually don't have said that completely sucked

434
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Speaker 1: out of them. I didn't like that, But we'll leave

435
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Speaker 1: this part in when Marte and Pete came out of

436
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Speaker 1: the game early. Here Pete getting hit in the hand

437
00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720
Speaker 1: and Marte tight quad. I believe it is right, yeah.

438
00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,760
Speaker 2: And I think the Pete thing really seemed to uh

439
00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040
Speaker 2: suck the air out of him. Double up on that

440
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,480
Speaker 2: kind of more so because Pete got hit in the hand.

441
00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 2: It was a ball that I think was like they said,

442
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 2: the ninth or ten times he's been hit this year,

443
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,800
Speaker 2: some ridiculous number because I just made that up.

444
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Speaker 1: That's lead the league and hit by pit it's one.

445
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Speaker 2: During in the morning. I'm just gonna say some stuff.

446
00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,720
Speaker 2: But the way it hit him, he didn't really know.

447
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,120
Speaker 2: It kind of looked like could have been the wrist,

448
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,560
Speaker 2: It looked like could have been any part of the hand.

449
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,320
Speaker 2: It kind of got a pinky and luckily X rays

450
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,080
Speaker 2: and the MRI both came back negative for a break

451
00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,960
Speaker 2: in a fracture, so thank god. But when you see

452
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,080
Speaker 2: a bather, especially if Peters caliber get hit in any

453
00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,040
Speaker 2: part of this part of the hand, like that could

454
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Speaker 2: be months and scream and sho out and like emphatically

455
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,880
Speaker 2: like be like I can't play and not really protest

456
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,200
Speaker 2: to the fact that he can't play. Pete is a

457
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 2: guy who seems like he never ever wants to come

458
00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 2: off the field. He played through almost a broken rist

459
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,640
Speaker 2: last year in Tampa because he wanted to play in

460
00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680
Speaker 2: front of his family, Yeah, when he really should have

461
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,560
Speaker 2: no business being on the field. So that was something

462
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Speaker 2: that I think the mess looks around him went not shit.

463
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Speaker 1: And I guess we do have some okay news. I'm

464
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Speaker 1: not gonna call it good news any means, But right

465
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,360
Speaker 1: now Pete and Marte are day to day looks like

466
00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna avoid Iel Stince, which is big, especially with

467
00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 1: the off day tomorrow, the day that you guys are

468
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,080
Speaker 1: listening to us. The fact that we get that off day, yeah,

469
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,800
Speaker 1: is huge for this guy's health and coming back sooner.

470
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Speaker 1: They said a lot of swelling on Pete's hand and

471
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Speaker 1: that they're hoping that it subsides. And then Starling's just tight.

472
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,479
Speaker 1: It really, there's not much you can do when you're

473
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Speaker 1: super tight.

474
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, shone's old. You gotta see how chiseled than Jackie is.

475
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,359
Speaker 2: You have a bigger muscle. It guess more likely to

476
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:24,960
Speaker 2: be pulled.

477
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 1: Drink water stretch. That's probably the only thing.

478
00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Starling tried to work through the injury. He

479
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 2: said he felt a tweak in the first jenning. He

480
00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,159
Speaker 2: played until I believe it was the third, then he

481
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:32,920
Speaker 2: pulled himself out.

482
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960
Speaker 1: He came out after Pete got hit with the pitch,

483
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Speaker 1: so whatever, that's just clicked in. Yeah, he was like,

484
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe that's maybe that's a sign that

485
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Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. Yeah.

486
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Speaker 2: And also other bad news, Colin Holderman had his first

487
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Speaker 2: more the ladding of the season. I think he led

488
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 2: the first three guys on and then they basically all

489
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 2: came around to score.

490
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Speaker 1: He just he lost it. He got a little bit

491
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Speaker 1: of the I don't want to say the yips because

492
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad, but he just he walked the

493
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,080
Speaker 1: first guy walked, the second walk, the third. He was

494
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,119
Speaker 1: not around the zone. And even Keith goes man, I

495
00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,200
Speaker 1: think this is more mental than physical right now, Like,

496
00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,520
Speaker 1: this is just holy shit, I just fell apart and

497
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,199
Speaker 1: what do I do now.

498
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,000
Speaker 2: It's also a good reality check for this Mets fan

499
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,280
Speaker 2: base because Colin Holderman Mark was even saying the last

500
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,920
Speaker 2: episode was like an elite high leverage reliever.

501
00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 1: That was never true. He listen. I saw his numbers

502
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 1: pop up before this the appearance too, I was like, man,

503
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,440
Speaker 1: he's only walked one guy proceeds to walk the next three. Like, yeah,

504
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 1: we probably need to come to earth a little bit

505
00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,960
Speaker 1: on Colin Holderman. But I do still think that down

506
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,120
Speaker 1: line is gonna be useful for this team.

507
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be useful probably in the next in

508
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 2: this Angel series. So I'm not really worried about Colin Holderman.

509
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 2: It's just a rookie who had a bad out thing.

510
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 2: And at this point now this was the Mets' second

511
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,560
Speaker 2: shutout in the last week, after they had not been

512
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 2: shut out the whole season for the first eight.

513
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Speaker 1: Weeks, this felt like our poop fest of the series. Yeah,

514
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 1: we're due always for a poop fest, which again, we

515
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 1: hate that we have to keep bringing this up. But

516
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,159
Speaker 1: you thought, okay, you Darvish against timon Walker. If this

517
00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,880
Speaker 1: was the one, if we thought we were gonna lose,

518
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 1: this was the game, and going into Game three without

519
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,360
Speaker 1: Marte and Pete, it definitely hurts, especially with the team

520
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 1: that's already low right now on just bats in general.

521
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mets had one bench player for the game

522
00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 2: on Wednesday and it was Pat Mezika. So you're not

523
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200
Speaker 2: really gonna be jump in to put your backup catcher

524
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 2: in the game, no, And it followed up with another boopfest.

525
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

526
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 2: Well, the question that was what's worse than poop fest?

527
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 2: Because that's what happened on Wednesday night. The Mets got

528
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,200
Speaker 2: annihilated in this game. It was about eleven nothing in

529
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Speaker 2: the sixth inning.

530
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a quick let's start doing some quick

531
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Speaker 1: notes about anything and try and wrap this up as

532
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Speaker 1: soon as we can so we could record and go

533
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Speaker 1: to bed.

534
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 2: I threw the Giants Rocky game on because I had

535
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Speaker 2: a bet on it.

536
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just Bassett did not have it from the start,

537
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: which was weird because he struck out five I think

538
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 1: in the first three innings, which is decent. That's a

539
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: pretty good start. I mean, you would love that ten

540
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 1: over six or whatever you're gonna, you know, stretch that

541
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 1: out to. But his command wasn't on his pitches weren't

542
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 1: really sharp. Seemed like the Padres, despite striking out five times,

543
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: kind of knew or had a feel of what was

544
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 1: coming and where it was going. And they were just

545
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 1: finding holes too. I mean, that's gonna happen. You have

546
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 1: JD playing first and Nick Plumber and all these guys

547
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: just kind of plumb. Was he was dhing today, That's right,

548
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: But it just it was a weird feeling game from

549
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 1: the start because you are missing Pete and Martee, who

550
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: I think are two big energy guys for.

551
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: This team, massive energy guys, and Bassett is a command

552
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: guy over a stuff guy, so there's so much less

553
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 2: room for error for a guy like him when it

554
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 2: comes to execution, and you kind of saw it early.

555
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: Bassett usually relies on his color and his sinker to

556
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 2: get weak contact against both righty's end lefties. He wasn't

557
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 2: able to place that color inside against lefties like he

558
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: normally does his slyther. Also, just it was wasn't catching corners,

559
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: wasn't getting swings and misses. And again all series, the

560
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 2: Padres stacked their line up with lefties. I think they

561
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: just have a lot of lefties again, and he just

562
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 2: left a few slithers, sinkers, colors over the middle against them.

563
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: They got hit hard the distinctly remember the the Corona

564
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: Worth home run was something right over the middle of

565
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: the plate. Profar a couple of hard hits on the

566
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: ball over the middle of the play. He just didn't execute.

567
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 2: I'm so confident what Chris Bassett is like last Star.

568
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: He struck out seven Dodgers, gave up three earned and

569
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Speaker 2: six maybe six Dodgers in six innings pitch. He did

570
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: this one earned and six or seven strikeouts and six

571
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: innings against Phillies two starts ago. So it's not like

572
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: we're going crazy about Chris Basses. Not like Chris Bassett

573
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: can't be good teams. This is the first bat start

574
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Speaker 2: he had all year against someone who wasn't the San

575
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Speaker 2: Francisco Giants, and.

576
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Speaker 1: The Giants just might have his number.

577
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a dude. Thirteen earned and in

578
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Speaker 2: two starts. We talked about that when that start happened.

579
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Speaker 1: One of your fun hypothesis about Chris Bassetts start tonight. Yeah,

580
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: you know who his former coach was last year. Oh, Bobby,

581
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: Bob Melvin. Yeah, he's the head coach of the Padres.

582
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: You want to talk about having a scouting report on

583
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: it guy, This guy's been coaching him for the last

584
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Speaker 1: two years, the best years of his career. Does that

585
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: actually make a difference. Probably not. Bob Melvil would be

586
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: the greatest coach ever. If his scouting report was the

587
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 1: reason why the Padres hit like they did tonight, I

588
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: thought we were going elsewhere with that. Well. I also

589
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: have the other fun fact. I just gotta find who

590
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: tweeted this at me real quick. Shout out to Elitz

591
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Speaker 1: Eli ts nineteen. I don't know how to pronounce your Twitter,

592
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: but hey, shout out to you. This is a really

593
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Speaker 1: cool stat figured out why bass extincts Now, I don't

594
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: agree with that true, but before McCann got injured, he

595
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: had pitched to him every start except one. Since then,

596
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: he's had a five point nine to seven ERA hashtag METS, which,

597
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: again we've talked about it to era and a small

598
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: sample is probably one of the worst stats. But I

599
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: think there is maybe some truth to it because we've

600
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: talked about when he was even pitching the Mezique at

601
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: times there was a lot of shaking off. It didn't

602
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Speaker 1: look like he was ever particularly comfortable. Is that the

603
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: reason why he's been struggling. I don't think so. I

604
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: think pitchers can just go through this. I mean, it

605
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: happens all the time. You can just be cold for

606
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: a month, that's a thing, and you can just blow

607
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: in the ra with literally one bad start, two bad starts,

608
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: two bad starts. In this five game stretch where everyone's

609
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: sweeting out the seven era, yeah, that seems to be

610
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Speaker 1: the popular thing right now is he has a seven

611
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Speaker 1: r in his last five bass start against the Padres,

612
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: bats start against the Giants, both good teams. But also

613
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: he pitched well against the Dodgers and Phillies.

614
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Speaker 2: And also people are kind of trying to pigeonhole Basset

615
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: right now, being like he has to be the ace

616
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Speaker 2: with chers urn to grim out. He doesn't have to

617
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: be anything Chris Bassett is with he is. Chris Bassett

618
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Speaker 2: doesn't now get better because some of your pitchers are

619
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: not there like Chris. But don't put a round pagan

620
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Speaker 2: a square hole here like Chris Bassett is what he is.

621
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Speaker 2: Chris bass is a good picture, get some soft contact,

622
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: he gets strike out sometimes. He was always going to

623
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Speaker 2: be a guy who had like a mid to high

624
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: threes ERA over the course of the season. That is

625
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: who Chris Bassett is. That's what Chris basstt. That's what

626
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Speaker 2: Chris bass we traded for. Just because our better pictures

627
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: aren't playing right now doesn't mean that if Chris Bassett

628
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: isn't an ace, it's a failure. It's just this a

629
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Speaker 2: bad start for a guy who relies on command. He

630
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 2: didn't have it, and the poddres were all over him

631
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Speaker 2: in the midst Did nothing get the plate either to that.

632
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Speaker 1: No, nothing.

633
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: They got a couple of cheap o runs in the

634
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Speaker 2: seventh inning when this game was totally.

635
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Speaker 1: Out of reach but hard to win, when he up eleven,

636
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: but the Mets scored two.

637
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: And it's also like, all right, the Mets got Bamboozo's

638
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: for a couple of games in a row. Has that

639
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: even happened this year?

640
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like it.

641
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: I can't recall, like.

642
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: The the only time we had back to back losses, well,

643
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: we had a couple the Dodgers, the Dodgers, the Phillies.

644
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: Nationals Phillies two games of bullpen blue and when we

645
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: did we lost the back to back Giants games because

646
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Speaker 2: we had the crazy comeback that we blew against Jock

647
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Speaker 2: and the next day we got Bamboozo Thomas a Pucket.

648
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, yeah, the Mets aren't winning every single

649
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Speaker 1: series like they were to start the year, but we

650
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Speaker 1: also knew that's not really possible.

651
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Speaker 2: It is the third series the Mets have lost all year,

652
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Speaker 2: the third series the Mets have lost all year. It's

653
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Speaker 2: June ninth. They've only lost three series, and all three

654
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Speaker 2: of those series. We talked about this off air. The

655
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Speaker 2: other team has had a player who went like absolutely

656
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Speaker 2: bats you crazy in that series. First with Jesse Winker

657
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Speaker 2: for the Mariners. That was Jock Peterson had such a

658
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 2: good series begin to propel him to the All Star Game.

659
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Speaker 2: And this this series, Jerks and Profar against three right

660
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Speaker 2: handed pitchers, just hit everything.

661
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Speaker 1: Jerks and Profar decided to be the former number one prospect.

662
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: He was there you go, and also saw crazy stat

663
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Speaker 2: from it was Kyle Glasser Baseball America no more are

664
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Speaker 2: had RBS single in the first sitting of Wednesday's game.

665
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Speaker 1: He had an RBI hit on Tuesday as well, I believe,

666
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Speaker 1: And yeah, he's swinging the bat decently, okay for the

667
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: better than Robinson canop.

668
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Peler came to the Padres from the Rangers.

669
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Speaker 2: The last year who was with the Rangers was twenty thirteen,

670
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Speaker 2: maybe twenty fourteen, actually yeah, I think it was fourteen,

671
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Speaker 2: I think, and then he had that crazy offseason where

672
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: he got great kimberl I think it was justin Upton.

673
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: He went ballistics for that one year, then he tore

674
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Speaker 2: it all down. Then he was like, oh, maybe she

675
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Speaker 2: couet some prospects. During his tenure with the San Diego Padres,

676
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Speaker 2: AJ Peler has employed almost one quarter of the twenty

677
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Speaker 2: thirteen Texas Rangers his two thirteen Texas Rangers top thirty prospects,

678
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Speaker 2: Guys that he scathered, Guys that he signed, the guys

679
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: that he helped develop. Four guys on the current roster

680
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Speaker 2: right now in Jerks and profar Hore, Alvaro No Mar

681
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Speaker 2: Bazarre and Nick Martinez. So AJ Preller just loves going

682
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Speaker 2: after his old guys.

683
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Speaker 1: Yep. And they beat us.

684
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they beat us right now, the third best record

685
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Speaker 2: in the National League that thirteen games over five hundred.

686
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: They put three pretty good starting pitchers up against you.

687
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Speaker 1: This series. You lost. Yeah, I was disappointed that we lost,

688
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: but again by no means concerned level concertain levels zero still.

689
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Speaker 2: Shout out Sam McNeil fan account Buck Guy Mets Rangers

690
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: like all the same teams, becoming a friend of mine.

691
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: I told him before the series, Mets are gonna lose

692
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Speaker 2: two act three. Heere, this is no way, It's not

693
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: gonna happen. It's the way the law of averages are working,

694
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: the way the Mets karma has been built up. We

695
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: were duved to get just bum rushed for a few games.

696
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: And it happened. It happened. The Mets have, like we said,

697
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: not played a lot of bad baseball, and I feel

698
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Speaker 1: like it's really easy to overreact to losing two of

699
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Speaker 1: three to the Padres, even though, like we said, record

700
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Speaker 1: wise third best team in the National League. So we're

701
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Speaker 1: overreacting to losing to a good team. Listen, just because

702
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: the Padres beat us doesn't mean we stink. The Pirates

703
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: swept the Dodgers like last week.

704
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, people weren't jumping out of windows, which, like you would.

705
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: Think that would deserve a jumping out of winners. You

706
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: think Dodgers fans will be like, oh, my god, we

707
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: just we We didn't just lose one game to the

708
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Speaker 1: Pirates who lost three, all three at home.

709
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Speaker 2: Could you imagine betting and all those games?

710
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Speaker 1: No, I couldn't. I couldn't imagine doing that. Well, it

711
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Speaker 1: couldn't be me.

712
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I didnk the Yankees get swept in the first series

713
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Speaker 2: of the year against the Red Sox.

714
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Speaker 1: I think I don't remember. That's so long ago. At

715
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: least lost two out of three. Teams lose series all

716
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Speaker 1: the times to other teams. It would have been nice

717
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: to win, but by no means is the sky falling

718
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Speaker 1: at all. I will say this though, a special fuck

719
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Speaker 1: you to Salakata because, as you guys know, we're not

720
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Speaker 1: big fans of his work over here on the Mets

721
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Speaker 1: the podcast. But on May thirty first, when the Mets

722
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Speaker 1: were cooking and playing really well, he went on S

723
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Speaker 1: and Y and he shouted proclaimed believing that the NA

724
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Speaker 1: least is over. It's the Mets, It's over. On May

725
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Speaker 1: thirty first, I think we literally warned everybody, don't say that,

726
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: don't say anything like that. Since May thirty first, both

727
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: the Braves and Phillies have not lost a game. I

728
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: think they're either thirteen or fourteen and oh combined, the

729
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: Mets still have a very healthy lead over both teams.

730
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm not particularly worried yet, but it's just crazy that

731
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Speaker 1: we would have somebody, somebody who has some sort of platform,

732
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: makes such an outlandish statement, knowing that the Mets had

733
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Speaker 1: this kind of lead last year, had this before, and

734
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Speaker 1: that the season's never won in May thirty. First, the

735
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Speaker 1: Braves were not great last year at this time. The

736
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Speaker 1: Nationals a few years ago were one of the worst

737
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: teams in baseball won the World Series. Like, it's a

738
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Speaker 1: long season. There's a reason one sixty two is so important.

739
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: It's not one now. But it's good to get a

740
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: lead here. It's good to have this cushion. But I

741
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to keep talking about

742
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: it as a cushion. That to me, like makes it

743
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: seem like we're waiting to screw up.

744
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's also there's nasad chance that Salakala goes

745
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: on the sny where airwaves tomorrow and says the Met

746
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: season is over, the teams in shambles, they need to

747
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: make a trade.

748
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Speaker 1: I would say almost a seventy five percent chance.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I play about sixty better than one out of two. Yeah, yeah,

750
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 2: I mean they got to make content over there.

751
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get people to watch. But it's just

752
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: those kind of comments. We've never really been extremists over here, No,

753
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: I try not to be.

754
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: Also, I didn't even realize that clearly was actually active

755
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: for this game tonight. Yeah, Dena was sent down. Okay,

756
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: so mess didn't have a one man match two technically.

757
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he got a nice trip to San Diego.

758
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: Got to get out of Syracuse and go to San Diego,

759
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: which nice, that's a blessing. Yeah, he's on that flight

760
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: like ah, and that's honestly probably a perfect way for

761
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: us to switch into the Prospect report.

762
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could batch Salako literally all night, but we're

763
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to do that much longer.

764
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Speaker 1: So happy to get that off our chest. Yeah, this

765
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Speaker 1: is this is a U one of the last episodes

766
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Speaker 1: before things could be changing for the better. I would say, yeah,

767
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Speaker 1: for the.

768
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Speaker 2: Better overall, but we're gonna lose you know that, uh,

769
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: that sharp tongue that you guys have come accustomed to.

770
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we could say fuck you Salagata though,

771
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: it's one Let's throw on the Johniya Scramsky too. Yeah. Well,

772
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Speaker 1: we'll see you guys on the other side. But let's

773
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Speaker 1: talk about the prospects big names first. As always, Francisco

774
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: Alvarez has been so so hot, which is nice because

775
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: the last time we spoke about him he was ice cold.

776
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he got hot literally right after that, which

777
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: we the messed up touch. Yeah, is it bank writing

778
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: an eight game history? He's writing an eight game history

779
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Speaker 2: right now Binghamton. He's also gotten hit in eleven now

780
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: of twelve seven home runs over that span, including one yesterday,

781
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: so gross. He's completely locked into plate as he's done before,

782
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: and over the last couple of weeks since we last

783
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: spoke about a prospect report, he has risen his WRC

784
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: plus over thirty points to one thirty five on the year.

785
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: So like, he's still really good. He's still twenty years

786
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: old in Double A. Like, he's truly one of the

787
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: best prospects in baseball, and I'm happy to see his development, yes, which.

788
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: Is awesome, And he probably will become the top catching

789
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: prospect now in baseball because Gabrielle Marine just got called

790
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: up by the Blue Jays and Adleys with the Orioles

791
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: and there.

792
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Are a few people who thought Alvarez was better than

793
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: Mirano anyway.

794
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: So there we go, Francisco Alvarez swinging the bat. Weell

795
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: el throll as he says, I'm kind.

796
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Of running through these right now. As the way the

797
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: Mets prospects are ranked in Baseball America's new rankings, everybody

798
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: go get a subscription in Baseball America. Check them out,

799
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: do great work. Brett Baty next on the list, mess

800
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: number two prospect, hitting fine. But the thing that's makes

801
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: me kind of nervous by Brett bay right now is

802
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: to strike Our rate has gone up this year and

803
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: is higher than this had been any level previously for.

804
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Him, And I wonder if that's maybe because Brett Baty's

805
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: at the point now where he's like, I got to

806
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: try and hit for some home run power because gap

807
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: to gap right now is just not going to get

808
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: me like that quick promotion by any means. And that's

809
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: always been the thing that I feel like everyone's waiting for,

810
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: is the power to develop for Bett Brady.

811
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: But that's also not really happening either. His CARRAAE has

812
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: jumped six points from last year was sitting between twenty

813
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: four and twenty five percent. Now it's above thirty one percent,

814
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: below thirty two percent. Not a good place you want

815
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: to be. That's higher than the league average, and the

816
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: powers in there is Io has actually taken a tiny

817
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: little step back, and he's now playing in the same

818
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: amount of games this year and last year at double A.

819
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Speaker 1: So listen, if you're Brett Baty, this is exactly what

820
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Speaker 1: you want to hear, though. You want us to bring

821
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: you back down to earth.

822
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Speaker 2: The one saving grace though that Baty has had right now,

823
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: which maybe the new approach has a chance to show

824
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: some dividends, is that he has cut his ground ball

825
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Speaker 2: rate in a similar sample in two different sins of

826
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Speaker 2: double A, down thirteen percent, and he's pushed that into

827
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: line driving flyball rate. We've talked about before the fact

828
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Speaker 2: that the line drive rate's kind of dumb, and I

829
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: don't really know how to gauge that because if you

830
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: if you guys like the stat line drive rates, the

831
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Speaker 2: next time you watch a game, maybe you're with your friends,

832
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: maybe you're alone, maybe with your family, try and do

833
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: it by hand, watch the game and say, is that

834
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: a line drive a fly ball off the bat? He's

835
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Speaker 2: really hard to tell it makes tack kind of dowmb.

836
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Speaker 2: That's why I kind of like just lump those two

837
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Speaker 2: together and I kind of say, anything higher than ten

838
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: percent launch angle, I'm just calling him the flyball. Anything lower,

839
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call the ground ball. So the fact that

840
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: Batty has been hitting signific significantly less ground balls and

841
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 2: pulling the ball at least reasonably more than he did

842
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: last year at the same level, that is some cause

843
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: for optimism. He also hit the home run yesterday, so

844
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: that's a little bit maybe breaking out, who knows, But

845
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: that is the Brett Baty update.

846
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Speaker 1: And you talked about the flyball rate, let's also talk

847
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Speaker 1: about Ronnie Mauricio, whose fly ball rate is through the

848
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: roof staring really really cool, because this is the guy

849
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: who we know has always had crazy, crazy raw power

850
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: and has been a top prospect for a while. But

851
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: how do you get the home runs? He got hit

852
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: the ball in the air, and he's starting to do

853
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: that way more than he ever has.

854
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, his flyball race jump significantly this year at double

855
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: a over forty six percent as a number that he

856
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: struggled together about thirty percent at stops in the past.

857
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: So that's a really big deal for Mauricio. Also, this

858
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: is over a very small sample and it could be noise,

859
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: but his last twelve games, he's actually cut his k

860
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: rate a lot. He's sitting below twenty five percent right now,

861
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: which is a number that I didn't really think Ronny

862
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: Marisio would be over the last few years, especially at

863
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Double A, as I believe still twenty one year old.

864
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's incredibly young too.

865
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: But over the last twelve games, only eight strikeouts and

866
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: no multi strikeout games, which that is kind of something

867
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: that has snowball from Maritio in the past. So more

868
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: flyballs and less strikeouts, still no walks, That's okay. That's

869
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: a very big sign for Ronny Maricio, something that actually

870
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: I think is a guy who's normally talked about as

871
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: like a big boomer bus prospect.

872
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: That's something that I think makes his floor very palatable. Yeah,

873
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: and you were talking about that with me earlier, that

874
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people in the prospect world who

875
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: are starting to get really high on Ronnie as a

876
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: guy who is probably at worst a major league player.

877
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Dan Zipsbrowski owned the zip system on Fangrafts. He has

878
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: a prospect ranking that he produces a couple times a

879
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: year using his ZIPS model, and it really is kind

880
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: of just a measurement of how likely a guy is

881
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: to be some kind of a contributor at the major

882
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: league level. And he has Mauricio in his top twenty

883
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: that was at least preseason as a guy who just

884
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: is athletic enough to basically play defense anywhere and has

885
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: enough power to compete at the major leagues at some point,

886
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and is now a guy who's striking out a round

887
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: the league average at a level that he's significantly younger

888
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: than the average player at.

889
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: So you pull that.

890
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: Together and you kind of see a guy who at

891
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: worst should be someone who contributes at the major league

892
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: level relatively consistently.

893
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Just pretty good floor.

894
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good floor. It's suddenly a good floor. Right,

895
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: just kind of made me swing a little bit the

896
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: way I think about Mauricio's development.

897
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: Now we got to go to the triple A level here.

898
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: Talk about Mark Vientos, who has been scalding hot since

899
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of May.

900
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Mess number four prospect on Baseball, Mark Dude is.

901
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Hitting bomb six homers, one to sixty three WRC plus

902
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: with a three twenty average four hundred on based six

903
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: hundred slugging. Yes, signed me up for those numbers all day,

904
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: and especially when he's walking ten percent of the time. Absolutely.

905
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: The only thing is over that same sample since the

906
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: beginning of May, Mark Viento's is tracking out thirty two

907
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: percent of time. But that's kind of just the Mark

908
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: Vanto's way. He kind of cut that car rate last year.

909
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll get that down as he keeps developing. But

910
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: we talked about the last Prospect report. Viento's has been

911
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: an habitual slow star there every single year in the

912
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: Mets system. He's proving that again, so we can all

913
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: shake off that rough start at Triple A. Doing this

914
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: over the last month shows me that he is someone

915
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: who probably will get a shot at some point this

916
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: year for the Mets.

917
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Yes, especially with what's been going on with health and

918
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: just injuries and stuff. You think about the depth that

919
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: the Mets have at a third base position, or even

920
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: if you want to get creative and put him at

921
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: first base, there's not a whole lot We're playing JD.

922
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Davis at first base this series a lot, just because

923
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: we don't have another first basement right now. Unless you

924
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: want to bring up Tom Smith or Daniel Pauca or

925
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Palka. But Viento's I think is a guy that

926
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: by the end of this year we will see him

927
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: in Queen's at some point.

928
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Definitely just got kind of worried about a thirty two

929
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: percent track every in Triple A and how he will

930
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: respond to major league velocity. Yeah, which it's definitely different,

931
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: and there's no way we could tell we got tried

932
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: by fire.

933
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes, Yeah, you gotta see it. Alex Ramirez is another

934
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: prospect that has been flying up boards US with the

935
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: number five.

936
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: The best number five prospect officially in Baseball America, which

937
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: is a massive jump from where he was last year,

938
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: and also jumped into the top one hundred and LLMB pipeline.

939
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Also, Baseball America is super super conservative with their prospect

940
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 1: rankings as well. They're not super into the high risk guys,

941
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: so Alex Ramirez to be getting this kind of love

942
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: is pretty huge.

943
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Alex Ramirez just looking at him, seeing his

944
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: highlights from Saint Lucie, he looks like he's put on

945
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: some serious mass. He's listed six three, one seventy everywhere.

946
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't think he's that size anymore. He is like

947
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: an imposing physical force. I've seen some prospect guys I

948
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: trust say that watching that level consistently being at the Games,

949
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: he is clearly one of the at least physical standouts

950
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: at the level. And he hasn't been as good as

951
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: he was the beginning of the year, but he's still

952
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: like really good since May first, one hundred and twenty

953
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: WRC plus one seventy ISO. Again, not where he was

954
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: the first month of the year, where he was like

955
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: one of the best hit there's the entire levels, smoking

956
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: the ball over the place, but he has been very good.

957
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I saw a highlight of him from last week where

958
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: the Mets face chased Hetty Twins.

959
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Twins, yeah, trade first round pick from the Twins,

960
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: last first round pick.

961
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: From trade to the Reds and Sunny Grade deal.

962
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, right, yeah, Oh my god.

963
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: He pitched three innings against the Saint Lucie Mets, shut

964
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: them all down. Only hit though, being an alex Raimirez

965
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: rocket into the corner for a triple and watching him

966
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: runing around the basis, you'd think he's an NFL wide receiver.

967
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's looked really, really solid fun fact about him.

968
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: Highest batting average of the Mets organization.

969
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Kay, not bad batting average podcast stat that doesn't matter,

970
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: that matters, No, But yeah, he's Alexei marraz He's still

971
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: what nineteen or twenty at that level.

972
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he's he's a baby.

973
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he hasn't gone to the offensive black hole

974
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: is Brooklyn yet either.

975
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how he handles that, because it feels

976
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: like he'll get a promotion at some point, for sure.

977
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: He's a guy who we've been off since the beginning,

978
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: someone great to watch and someone that we can kind

979
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: of hang our hats on. And now he's actually had

980
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: the ascent that we kind of predicted.

981
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that that's all you man. I'll give you

982
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: that one for Alex Ramirez. That was like, let's find

983
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: someone fun. Yeah about Alex Ramirez, he's looked pretty good.

984
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not not gonna Sam rocks eye.

985
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: This year.

986
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: He had like the third highest international signing bonus given

987
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: out by the Mets in the last five years. You could,

988
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: you could, that's easy one to pay.

989
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: And then on the pitching side, let's talk about Jose Bhuto,

990
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: who probably has the most excitement of a pitcher that

991
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: could come up at some point this year, and he's

992
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: looked really good. I think you're telling me he's touching

993
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: ninety seven, which is massive for hozeah shockut, shout out.

994
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Jacob Resnik and Michael Meyer, they've both been talking about

995
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: Budo a lot. They both have very good minor league

996
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: videos and analysis. You guys want to follow them, I'm

997
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: sure you already are. But Budo has been sitting ninety

998
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: five and getting up to ninety six and ninety seven

999
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: this year, which is a massive, massive adjustment for a

1000
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: guy who doesn't really have a great breaking ball but

1001
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: has a very good shape on that fastball. So he

1002
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 2: used to just have a good shape and got whifts

1003
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: on it's sitting in the mid nineties but having a

1004
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: good shape and getting up to ninety seven at worst

1005
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: case scenario. This is a guy with a deb like

1006
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: a fastball that rises and can get the upper nineties

1007
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: with a devastating change up worst case scenario. That is

1008
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: a really good relief pitcher.

1009
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was dominant in what two starts to

1010
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: go against the Somerset Patriots, which, as we know, Yankees

1011
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: have one of the strongest farm systems for him to

1012
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: get eleven k's and six innings. Minor leagues don't go crazy,

1013
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: but that's encouraging, very encouraging.

1014
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: A Summerset Patriots team for the Yankees thirty three and nineteen,

1015
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: one of the best play teams in the Double A

1016
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Eastern League. The Yankees farm is ridiculous. They're breathing football

1017
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: players out there. Those guys are like thick, thick men.

1018
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: We saw them last year we were in when we

1019
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: were next to them on the field, We're like, there's

1020
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: a difference in size between the Brooklyn Cyclones and the

1021
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and the Yankees.

1022
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: And we saw Elja Dunham at the Fall League. He's

1023
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: having a breakout season. Double A Andres Japara was also

1024
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: with the Fall League. He puts out some crazy eggs

1025
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: of velosities. Anthony volpis on that team. There's a good team,

1026
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: good team, a solid players, and Budo struck out eleven

1027
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Somerset Patriots in six innings. He did pitch yesterday though

1028
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: he didn't have as good as a start, but I

1029
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: mean he's a pitcher. Things changed on different days. Through

1030
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: five innings, two walks, three strikeouts, but Budos, it has

1031
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: been very encouraging. Year development for Jose Budoho, I think

1032
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: it's still kind of being criminally underrated in the baseball

1033
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: world in general. That's also he doesn't have a crediball, yeah,

1034
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: or a slider and you look around. But now he

1035
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: does have a leade velocity, which changes that changes things

1036
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: a little bit for him. It'll leave Vassi above average velosity,

1037
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: but as a guy who doesn't have a league breaking

1038
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: the ball as a right handed pitcher, it is a

1039
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: tough hill to climb. But with the velocity, I think

1040
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: he has a shot.

1041
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Yep. No, definitely excited to see what Jose Budo continues

1042
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: to do this year. Now we're gonna give you guys

1043
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: some names that aren't in this top ten. Aren't one

1044
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: of the ones that you hear a lot, but they're

1045
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: doing some interesting stuff. And in low A we talked

1046
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: about Alex Ramirez already, but his teammates Carlos de Ming

1047
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: is an Omar Delos Santos a little bit older for

1048
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: the you know level, they're twenty two years old, I

1049
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: think twenty two to twenty three, and they kind of

1050
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: got screwed a little bit from the COVID season because

1051
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: they were in Dominican summer leagues, and then the COVID

1052
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: season happens, so they're getting even older. And then they

1053
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: had rookie ball last year, and it's like they're twenty two,

1054
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: but they're not really like an old gross like what

1055
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: are you doing down there? Twenty two? Like what a waste.

1056
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of how their progression's going. And

1057
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: to be fair, they're doing some things well, like Carlos

1058
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Daminguez and Omar Delos Santos both have hit balls for

1059
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: home runs one hundred and twelve miles per hour this year,

1060
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: which is impressive. Jose Ramirez has not hit the ball

1061
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: on hundred twelve miles an hour and the major.

1062
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Leagues this year. One of the best hitters in baseball

1063
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: this second second the MVP race to Aaron Judge and

1064
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: the al.

1065
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Right now now. One thing they're both also doing, though,

1066
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: is striking out an exorbitant amount. Carlos d Minguez forty

1067
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: two percent k rate, Omar Delos Santos thirty six percent

1068
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: k rate. That is something that will not play on

1069
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: next levels that has to be cut down. And looking

1070
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: at both of them, they have incredible long swings. I

1071
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: like Carlos Dominga is the swing actually a little bit more,

1072
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: just because I think that swing can play better and

1073
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: I think there's a world where it might be like

1074
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: he's maybe too aggressive. We haven't seen a lot of

1075
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: their swings, Christy, mostly their home runs, but his swing

1076
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: looks better than Delos Santos, at least from a mechanical standpoint.

1077
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Tomingas has what i'd call like very explosive hips. Like

1078
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: you see the way he rotates through on a swing,

1079
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: You're like, there's a lot of power in that Bat's

1080
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: lead rotational athletes the scouts would call him, and it

1081
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: looks like they both sell out for the long ball.

1082
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Thre Vegas has twelve home runs, Omar je Loosantos has eight,

1083
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: with ten doubles and twenty three stolen bases. If you

1084
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: look down on the minor league levels, you see some

1085
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: guys who were like seem to be like a little

1086
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: bit ahead of everybody else with these crazy stolen based numbers,

1087
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: and that just kind of means the ball player knows

1088
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: what he's doing out there.

1089
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Heads up, smart. Yeah, another guy, another guy who looks

1090
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: heads up and smart. In the Mets Minor League's Wyatt

1091
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: Young talk about two big guys hitting home runs. Let's

1092
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: completely flip the script here because Why Young is five

1093
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: to seven, one hundred and eighty pounds. I put, lol,

1094
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: no way because my size, I've seen him. He's not

1095
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds. There's no way I'm one

1096
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pounds that If he's one hundred.

1097
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: And eighty one hundred fifty pounds, there's.

1098
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Just absolutely no shot. Pepperdine graduate fifteenth round pick back

1099
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty one draft. So a guy who

1100
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: went kind of under the radar because the Mets did

1101
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: take a lot of pitching last year in the draft.

1102
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: But Why Young, being one of the hitters, grew up

1103
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: in Hawaii as well, so you know, he's absolutely miserable

1104
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: playing in Binghamton and Syracuse. He lives, went from Hawaii

1105
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: to Pepperdine, so Hawaii to Malibu and now he's playing

1106
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: in Binghamton and Syracuse. But he's playing really well. He

1107
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: has no power whatsoever. Like he's a small guy, but

1108
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: he's a little bit mcneilish in his hitting. He's lefty.

1109
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: He'll slap it around the field and in triple A,

1110
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: which is impressive. For a guy who just got drafted.

1111
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: He's hitting three fifty two with a four to forty

1112
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: two on base percentage. That plays. Oh yeah, Now what's

1113
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: weird though, is he struggling in HIA in Double A,

1114
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: which he's also got some time in two. I don't

1115
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know he's now. He's played a

1116
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: lot of games in Triple A. He's played like a

1117
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: decent amount at all the levels. Well was his most

1118
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: recent game played. He had his fight raking at Triple

1119
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: A for a few weeks, which that's so bizarre to me.

1120
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: He's now in double A, which I guess that he's

1121
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: not swinging as well, which gain doesn't make sense. But

1122
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: if the dude swinging in triple A is as a

1123
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: fifteenth round pick in twenty twenty one, that's like almost

1124
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: a win already.

1125
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: So at least good organizational depth.

1126
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So I don't know if we'll see I

1127
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna see him this year by any mean.

1128
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I kind of hope we don't. I hope we don't.

1129
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: That's gonna be bad, but like horribly wrong. Keep it

1130
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: out for white young. Everybody likes the short little guy.

1131
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: That's our guy we might see him as Jeff McNeil

1132
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: gets like kidnapped.

1133
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, please No, that's the wist Ramos all

1134
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, we're gonna knock out a win. No kidnappings.

1135
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: And this has been a little long Prospec report, but

1136
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean we didn't want to talk about the Padres

1137
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: game for that long. It was a crappy series. But

1138
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: two more pitchers. I want to talk about. Two guys

1139
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: I talked about a little bit last year. First one

1140
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: being Joel Diaz, sept one being Javier at Tensio. They

1141
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: are both It's it's Saint Lucy right now. Joelle being eighteen,

1142
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: who I think is the youngest player, youngest pitcher.

1143
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: At that level. Has he pitched yet? He has, He's

1144
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: pitched a couple of times.

1145
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: Results have not been good, But just the fact that

1146
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: he is eighteen and at that level shows that the

1147
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: Mets see a lot of potential in him, as as

1148
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: do we. And there's being aggressive, and I love being aggressing.

1149
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: You know, theyrow him the pool, see if he swims whatever.

1150
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: And Atensio he's got a good rays so far in

1151
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: triple at hasn't really had the best results stats to

1152
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: back up up the kas and walks and whatnot. But

1153
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: he's this kind of new type of pitcher, little guy

1154
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: lefty with a very lively fastball that can get up

1155
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 2: to ninety five as a guy who's only six feet

1156
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: tall and looks like he's maybe two hundred pounds soaken wet,

1157
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: but his rises through the zone and he has one

1158
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: of those new wonderful big sweeping curve balls, the sweeper

1159
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: that's sweeping lol across Major League Baseball and farm systems everywhere.

1160
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: So you can marry those two pitches.

1161
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: That's a very good start.

1162
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: At twenty years old at the level is still pretty

1163
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: young for it, especially as a pitcher. He just take

1164
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: pitchers a little longer, especially ones they are signed as

1165
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: teenagers children, if you will, like that the team's being

1166
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: aggressive with them, especially a Mets scene that has shown

1167
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: over the last year that they're willing to take more

1168
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: chances with pitching development.

1169
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: And they definitely need to because there's not a whole

1170
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: lot of pitching in this farmist talked about a lot

1171
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: of pitches last week though.

1172
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: We're doing pretty well from the last draft, so it

1173
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: seems like the Mets are finding pitching depth where they

1174
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: have to right now.

1175
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lack that next guy that almost major league

1176
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: level quality. That's what they like.

1177
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: Bluto kind of is that, but we just we're not

1178
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: We don't really know what his ceiling looks like.

1179
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll probably get a look at that guy

1180
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: this year at some point, so hope. So, and that's

1181
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: pretty much it for our prospect report. It was a

1182
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: little more in depth. Like we said, we wanted to

1183
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: not really talk about this Padre series too much. We

1184
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: have one game to really talk about because the rest

1185
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: was straightforward. They beat us bad, and we talked mostly

1186
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: about Gary and Keith. Yeah, which that's fine, that's cool.

1187
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: We had it's fun episode. Like we said, things are

1188
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: changing possibly on the next one. You guys will find

1189
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: out soon. It's gonna be good though. It's gonna be

1190
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: good changes, I promise. Now let's preview the Angels series.

1191
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: We got three games out in LA. They have lost

1192
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: what fourteenth straight? Now, I love Wednesday Night. I'd love

1193
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: to see them lose seventeen straight. That'd be really cool.

1194
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: It would be great.

1195
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: But I almost kind of hate that we're heading into

1196
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: a series with a team that's the lowest point. But

1197
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the Angel's lowest point. In the

1198
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: midst of this losing streak, they fired their manager, Joe Madvin,

1199
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: and facing their fourteenth consecutive loss in a row, every

1200
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: single Angel on Wednesday night walked up to a Nickelback song,

1201
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: which you have to respect that, yeah, for sure if

1202
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: it works.

1203
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: But it didn't.

1204
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Now everyone had to listen nickel Back for a whole night,

1205
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: and Mike Trout didn't.

1206
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Play, and Mike trom might not play this weekend. We

1207
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: don't know, hope not. Yeah, I mean for baseball good

1208
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: for us bad. If I can avoid being in the

1209
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: lineup against the Mets, that gives us a massive advantage.

1210
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: I almost feel bad though, for a lot of Mets

1211
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: fans out there who aren't like psychoaddicts like us and

1212
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: watch baseball.

1213
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, you imagine going to La, I know, watch

1214
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: the Mets play the Angels, or you.

1215
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: Want to watch these games this weekend if you're I

1216
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: get a shot to watch Mike Trash show's high the

1217
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: best two players in baseball and you can't.

1218
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: I hope he plays and just strikes out every time.

1219
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: That's that'd be good. That's a good, that's a good,

1220
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: you know.

1221
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: Parallel or on Sunday night, the Mets are winning ten

1222
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: to three and he hit a home run to make

1223
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: a ten to four.

1224
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't. I won't say how he's been playing

1225
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: coming into this series because I wouldn't dare say that.

1226
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: No, I mean, he actually was hitting really well before

1227
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: the like thing. Okay, all right, in that game he

1228
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: had a home run a double.

1229
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: So he's heating up right before. Yes, I can say that.

1230
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: I'll give him the heating up tag. What are the

1231
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: pitching matchups? I know we mentioned ty Lore is pitching

1232
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: on Friday night, which is nice get to see him

1233
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: back off the il.

1234
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: Tyler McGill is pitching for the Mets on Friday. Allegedly

1235
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: right now, he is, and he's expected to pitch throw

1236
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: between seventy and eighty pitches, which is kind of where

1237
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: he should kind of be sitting anyway, especially coming off

1238
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: an injury. He's being opposed by Michael Lorenzen, former center fielder,

1239
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: former reliever, sellar pitch hit. He's gotten some good results

1240
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: this year, but I don't think the stuff is really

1241
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: that great, not someone to fear.

1242
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: I think there was a reason the Reds made him

1243
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: a relief pitcher. Was to get the most out of

1244
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: his stuff, you stretch him out longer. I just don't

1245
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: think it works as well.

1246
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: You know who was a res reliever a few years ago,

1247
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Oh, Kevin Gausman.

1248
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: I guess that's a good point, all right, But then

1249
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: he went to the Giants, and we know the Angels

1250
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: pitching is not the Giants pitch.

1251
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: And just have done a couple of decent things of

1252
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: pitching a well um in the last few years, and

1253
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: I think Lorenzen could be one of that.

1254
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: But I'm not.

1255
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: I'm not really afraid of Michael Lorenzen. And this game

1256
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: is going to be on the Apple TV broadcast.

1257
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, Friday night. Oh awful. Ye're not excited

1258
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: to see the Mets on Apple TV. The production's good, Chris,

1259
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: but the commentary is horrendous, not great. Not looking forward

1260
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: to that might be a.

1261
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: Radio night, Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be ten o'clock

1262
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: on Friday.

1263
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: God, I'm so I'm so done with this West Coast trip.

1264
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: I hate these two AM podcasts. And we're gonna do

1265
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: it again on Sunday night. Sunding Night Baseball.

1266
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess it's gonna be a late podcast whatever,

1267
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: but tell him goover With Michael Lorenzen Saturday at ten

1268
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: oh seven pm, Carls carrasco versus Patrick Sanders and I

1269
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: know for a fact that Patrick Sanderval is going to

1270
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: annoying Mets fans all hell. He's a wacky lefty with

1271
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: a very good change up, which is the exact thing

1272
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: you don't want to hear.

1273
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we know, the Mets do struggle against

1274
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: lefties right now, wacky ones, not Blake Snell, I guess,

1275
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: but McNeil doesn't hit left as well. Nimo has been

1276
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: struggling against lefties. It feels like and ward O Escobar

1277
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: is swinging the bat better right handed, I think, then

1278
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: left handed. If Pete's in the lineup, I think it

1279
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: changes things.

1280
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also Lindor get hot again, maybe on the

1281
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: right side of the play. But Patrick Sanderval is kind

1282
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: of breaking out this year. He has like chronic back issues,

1283
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: so I don't know how like real this is. He's

1284
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: also like a weird skinny guy nicknamed the Irish Panda

1285
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: by Nick Pollock a pitcher list, which is kind of

1286
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: a funny nickname.

1287
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Speaker 1: Oh because Patrick, Yeah, I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's gonna be annoying.

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Speaker 2: I hope Carrasco says hot though, And then Sunday and

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Speaker 2: Night baseball is the one we've all been looking forward to. Here,

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Speaker 2: we've got ESPN is telling me David Peterson, but Anthony

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Speaker 2: dicomos at Taiwan Walker. So I'm gonna lean with uh

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Speaker 2: Anthony's last time.

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Speaker 1: Peterson pitched against the Dodgers, Yeah, he depitched that he

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Speaker 1: hasn't pitched since then. No, he's not due too. I

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00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: guess he probably would have been due for Friday. But

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00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: now McGill's gonna be back. Mets have like a weird yeah,

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00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: plethora of back end rotation guys ready to go right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust to Como, I think, Yeah, he seems

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00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: to have an inside source, and we also know ESPN

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00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: might not be the most reliable. Yeah for sure, especially

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Speaker 1: with baseball stuff. I trust him with the Angels though,

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Speaker 1: So that's me.

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Speaker 2: The last time David Pearson threw a pitch was when

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00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: he got taken out in the middle of Mookie bettsa back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: But so that means Sunday we're going to have Taiwan

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Speaker 2: Walker versus Noah Cindergarden, which is gonna be a fun

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Speaker 2: one on Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Base would really really like to beat Noah.

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00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: It would be awesome. And he's throwing a hit a

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00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: bole pitch right now. No Cinderguard is scared of break

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00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna say I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: drink anything. No Cindergard, though, has been reluctant to throw

1315
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: breaking balls this year, which.

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Speaker 1: Listen, and his fastball doesn't hasn't had as much jump

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00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: as we've seen in the past. We're changing how we're

1318
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: saying these words.

1319
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: It is sat in ninety four and ninety six, which

1320
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: is a far cry from former Cinderguard. He still has

1321
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: a leade command. He's always had a leade command. It's

1322
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: just the stuff hasn't really been where it once was

1323
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: with the Mets. So it might be weird for Mets

1324
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: fans to watch this game and see like a different

1325
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: looking Noah Cindergard.

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Speaker 1: And I do expect him to probably be a little

1327
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: bit sharper because of the metsicine. This soundn't gonna try

1328
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: to be I don't know if if that's a guarantee

1329
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: Yankees got to him, and he's his first trip back

1330
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: to New York, so hopefully the Mets can smack him around.

1331
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: And that was really It's kind of funny, but his

1332
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: only start with like really bad results this year, even

1333
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: though like underneath it hasn't look very good. The strikeouts

1334
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: aren't there, the fastball flass he isn't there. And again

1335
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: he's very reluctant to throw breaking balls.

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00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna use.

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00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: Reluctant, reluctant, nothing, nothing with negative connotations. It's been a

1338
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: weird season for Cindergard and you kind of see a

1339
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: guy like him who still has an era that's palatable,

1340
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: like in the low forth high threes, and you're like,

1341
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't need to adjust yet, so hopefully again before

1342
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: the adjustment, it'd be great.

1343
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd really love to see that. And honestly, this

1344
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: team looks a whole lot different as long as Marte

1345
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: and Peter Alonzo are in this lineup as well, they

1346
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: make it so much longer, they make it so much deeper.

1347
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: We talked about this too off air that right now

1348
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: feels like the Mets lineup is very much split the

1349
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: top of the order in the bottom of the order,

1350
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: which sounds kind of obvious and redundant, like, yeah, of

1351
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: course though, that's how it works. But you can see

1352
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: that there's like a clear hierarchy and there is a

1353
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: drop off and you're lacking that bridge.

1354
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when Pelonzo hits fourth every single game and

1355
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: he's habitually intentionally walked.

1356
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. So hopefully those guys back, Hopefully they're healthy. I know,

1357
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: we just lost a series to the Padres. It's going

1358
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: to be okay. You lose series all year long. Be

1359
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: happy that it's to the Padres and not to the

1360
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Washington Nationals. Yeah, the Padres were swept by the Cardinals

1361
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: a week ago. We've still handled the teams in our division.

1362
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: If you want to really get crazy and you're jumping

1363
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: off a bridge here, jumping off a ledge, we still

1364
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: handle the teams in our division fairly well. We are

1365
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: still doing very well this entire season. Guys, there's really

1366
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: nothing to freak out about.

1367
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: And we have three more against the Padres at home

1368
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: later in the summer. Like when you come off of

1369
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: a crazy intense series against the Dodgers like that, with

1370
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: no off, Dake take something out of you, and then

1371
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: you watch two of your five best hitters go down

1372
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: the same game to your four best hitters, kind of

1373
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: not to your five to your five best hitters.

1374
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot.

1375
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: It's kind of like in football when you have like

1376
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: a crazy game against one of the best teams in

1377
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: the country, hard fought tooth and nail, thinking about like, well,

1378
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: how State Penn State, Michigan wis constant, good old Big

1379
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: ten football, And next week you had to Illinois and

1380
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: smacked by the Illinois You're just you're not ready for

1381
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: and they have physical you and the Mets got beat

1382
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: by the Padres this year is the Padres are good teams.

1383
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: Illinois probably not the best comparison if any Padres fan, Yeah,

1384
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: I take that back.

1385
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: It's not a comparison for San Diego Padres.

1386
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: But Mets left it all out there in the series

1387
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: last weekend. It was a very emotional win on Sunday.

1388
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: They didn't have an off day, had to have off day.

1389
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: In a week. It was a lot.

1390
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: Padres without three really good major league starting pitchers and

1391
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: they beat them.

1392
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna happen. You're going to lose. Baseball, Susan, Yeah,

1393
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: it's baseball, Susan everybody, take a deep breath. Take a

1394
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: deep breath with us. It's gonna be okay. We're going

1395
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: to be okay. This mess team is better than they've

1396
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: been in the past, and we have all the confidence

1397
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: in the world in them. And honestly, I think that's

1398
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: a perfect way to wrap up this episode, episode number

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. Again, I will tease it one more time

1400
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: just because it's it's so fun to do and I'm

1401
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: if you guys are watching the video this, me and

1402
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: James are so excited to tell you what it's eight

1403
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: when we're able to.

1404
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Today was a big day.

1405
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Today was a huge day, big day, lots of lots

1406
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: of ground was Hurl was cleared. We literally have been saying,

1407
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: we're on the one yard line. I think we're kicking

1408
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: the extra point, right, it's thirteenth down. Yes, it's the

1409
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: thirteenth down. We're kicking the extra point.

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00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of like we went fourth on fourth down,

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00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: we got a past interference, went forth, went through the

1412
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: fourth down again, got it off sides, and now thirteenth

1413
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: I was saying.

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00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: Give the ball to Marshap, give the ball of March,

1415
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: give the battle Marshop. That's what we're trying to do

1416
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: right now, very very close. We'll let you guys know

1417
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: as soon as it does happen, though, as soon as

1418
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: we can, you will be filled in, and hopefully that

1419
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: is for episode number one hundred, that is the next

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00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: one after what is one of the more eventful series

1421
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: I think, going up against the Angels, we're gonna have

1422
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: the Cinderguard storyline. Sunday night, Baseball Mets finished their West

1423
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: Coast road trip, coming back home to face the Brewers

1424
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: and Marlins after that. Thank you guys for listening, Thank

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00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: you for watching. Make sure you're following us on all

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00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: our social media app Mets Up, follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at draft deck, Mark James at Cheeter had no Range.

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Speaker 1: wherever you find us, drop us a rating and drop

1430
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Speaker 1: us for a review, as well as watch us on

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: We saw a couple of new reviews on there, so

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Speaker 2: shout shout out you guys, Yeah, shout you got dropping them.

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00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: Shout to everybody who's been supporting the stuff, following us

1435
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter interacting. We do appreciate it, and we'll catch

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00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: you on episode number one hundred of the Mets Up podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Peace Out Guys, peace Out Guys. See you next time.