WEBVTT - The Butcher Baronet

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and Aaron Minkey Listener discretion advised. In the summer

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen sixty five, an Australian lawyer named William Gibbs

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in his office reading the Sydney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes glazed over a large advertisement. The ad had

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<v Speaker 1>been placed in papers for weeks, and by now Gibbs

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<v Speaker 1>practically knew the words by heart. A handsome reward will

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<v Speaker 1>be given to any person who can furnish such information

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<v Speaker 1>as will discover the fate of Roger Charles Tickborne. He

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<v Speaker 1>sailed from the port of Rio de Janeiro on the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth of April eighteen fifty four in the ship Labella,

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<v Speaker 1>and has never been heard of since. Roger Tickborn ship,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed, had completely wrecked, but rumor had reached England

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<v Speaker 1>that the survivors had been rescued by ship headed to Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roger's mother, Lady Tickborne, was conveyed iNTS that her

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<v Speaker 1>son still lived, making him the rightful heir to the

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<v Speaker 1>tick Born baronetcy. Gibbs put down the newspaper and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at his next client, a local butcher from Wagga Wagga

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<v Speaker 1>named Thomas Castro. Castro's situation was pretty bleak. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much Gibbs could do to help him. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any other properties that you could maybe liquidate? He asked,

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<v Speaker 1>any valuable as you could sell any family abroad. Castor

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<v Speaker 1>was evasive. Yes, there was some property. He had an

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<v Speaker 1>entitlement back in England, but most of his possessions and

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<v Speaker 1>his paperwork had been lost in a shipwreck. Castro pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out a beautifully carved briar pipe and began smoking. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the pipe of a gentleman, and Castor had hoped

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<v Speaker 1>it added an air of legitimacy to the excuses he

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<v Speaker 1>made to his lawyer. Please, sir, he said, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a wife and daughter. Isn't there something you can do

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<v Speaker 1>for me? Gibbs asked for a closer look at Castro's pipe.

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<v Speaker 1>On the side of the burn mahogany would were three

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<v Speaker 1>gilded initials, almost invisible in the surface. R. C. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Charles Tickborn. Gibbs salivated. His mouth tasted like copper.

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<v Speaker 1>He rose to his feet and paced to the window,

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<v Speaker 1>then paced back to his desk. All while the butcher

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<v Speaker 1>who had called himself, Thomas Castro watched him nervously. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs said, still walking, pacing in steady circles around his

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<v Speaker 1>small hot office. I think you've been lying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about. Castro answered. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs said, his voice triumphant, that your real name is

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Tickborne. Castro's eyes caught the newspaper still splayed on

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs's desk. He saw the words reward, inheritance, and air.

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<v Speaker 1>The man cleared his throat, he in and exiled, and

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<v Speaker 1>then looked right into gives his eyes and said two

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<v Speaker 1>words that would send Victorian England into a frenzy to

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<v Speaker 1>words that would launch the longest trial England had seen

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<v Speaker 1>up until that point, Words that would tear families and

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<v Speaker 1>lives apart, Words that would captivate writers like Mark Twain

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<v Speaker 1>and George Bernard Shaw and ignite a populist movement. The man,

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<v Speaker 1>using the name Thomas Castro, who from that day on

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<v Speaker 1>would most commonly be referred to as the claimant, looked

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<v Speaker 1>directly at his lawyer and said, you're right. I'm Danish

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<v Speaker 1>Schwartz and this is noble blood. The story of the

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<v Speaker 1>tick Borne claimant doesn't actually begin in Australia. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually begin in England either. It begins in France, in

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<v Speaker 1>a cell in eighteen o three, where an English nobleman

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<v Speaker 1>named Henry Seymour was imprisoned during the Napoleonic Wars. Also

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<v Speaker 1>imprisoned with him was a man named James Tickborne, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sons of an English baronet. Henry Seymour didn't

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<v Speaker 1>let a little thing like being a prisoner of war

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<v Speaker 1>stop him from enjoying himself. While in captivity, He seduced

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<v Speaker 1>the daughter of the Duc de Bourbon and became the

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<v Speaker 1>father of a daughter whom they named Henriette. Years passed

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<v Speaker 1>and Henriette still hadn't found a husband. When she turned twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>her father, Henry Seymour, took matters into his own hands

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to arrange a match with James Tickborne, his

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<v Speaker 1>former brother in arms as a prisoner of war in France.

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<v Speaker 1>So what if James was twice Henriette's age, was ugly

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<v Speaker 1>and had the conversational abilities of a brick wall. Henriette

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty already an old maid, and James, as the

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<v Speaker 1>son of a baronet, was a suitable match, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the pair got married and had a son of their own,

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Charles Doughty Tickborn. James was his father's fourth son,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the odds weren't in his favor when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to him or his son Roger inheriting the baronetcy.

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<v Speaker 1>But as luck would have it, his older brother died

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<v Speaker 1>with no male heirs, his second eldest brother died young,

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<v Speaker 1>also with no children, and his third brother only had

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter, a girl named Catherine, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>young Roger who was raised with the knowledge that he

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<v Speaker 1>would one day become the baronet. As one might have predicted,

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<v Speaker 1>the arranged marriage between Henriette and James Tickborne was rocky

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<v Speaker 1>at best. Although they eventually had another surviving son named Alfred,

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<v Speaker 1>the spouses lived almost entirely separate lives. With her French pedigree,

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<v Speaker 1>Henriette believed that France would be the best place to

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<v Speaker 1>give her son Roger a proper education, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>brought little Roger with her to Paris, where he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>French before he spoke English. The little heir lived there

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<v Speaker 1>until his father intervened and sent him to a British

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<v Speaker 1>boarding school, where British schoolboys. Being British schoolboys, Roger was

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<v Speaker 1>endlessly mocked for his thick French accent. His adolescence was

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<v Speaker 1>not a happy one. After school, Roger joined the British

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<v Speaker 1>Army and during his leaves he would spend time at

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<v Speaker 1>Tickborne Park with his uncle Edward, the Baronet, his aunt

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<v Speaker 1>and his cousin Katherine. It's there that he found the

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<v Speaker 1>only joy in his young life because even though she

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<v Speaker 1>was his cousin, Katherine was beautiful and Edward, who was

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<v Speaker 1>tall and slim with dark hair and dark eyes, was

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<v Speaker 1>very handsome. The two cousins became enamored with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>The marriage between first cousins wasn't strictly forbidden in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century. Roger's uncle, Sir Edward, was not a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the idea. He forbade Roger from seeing Katherine until

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<v Speaker 1>their youthful attraction diminished the planned in work. Whenever Roger

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<v Speaker 1>had time away from the army, he would sneak back

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<v Speaker 1>to see Catherine, the two meeting in secret by moonlight.

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<v Speaker 1>They exchanged love letters written in code, but Catherine's father,

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Edward, was never going to agree to the match.

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<v Speaker 1>Love sick lonely and desperate, Roger needed to get away.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty three year old resigned his military position, where

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<v Speaker 1>his regiment had just been stationed in the British Isles,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left on a private tour of South America.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger's ship landed safely in Chile, where he received a

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<v Speaker 1>letter informing him that his uncle had passed away just

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<v Speaker 1>weeks after Roger had departed on his voyage. Now Roger's

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<v Speaker 1>father was the baronet. The air continued his journey, traveling

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<v Speaker 1>through South America for nearly a year, crossing the Andies,

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to Buenos Aires and then to Brazil. It was

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<v Speaker 1>from a port in Rio de jan Era that Roger

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<v Speaker 1>boarded a boat called Labella, sailing for Jamaica, what would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the final stops on his tour. No

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<v Speaker 1>one aboard Labella was ever heard from again. Four days later,

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<v Speaker 1>a wreck was discovered off the Brazilian coast, presumed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the ill fated Bella. By all appearances, every passenger,

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<v Speaker 1>including Roger Tickborne, had perished, but Roger's mother, Henriette now

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Tickborne, refused to believe that her eldest son was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger had been her shining boy, the beautiful child she

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<v Speaker 1>had raised in Paris and spent the mornings with chattering

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<v Speaker 1>in French. He was the dashing soldier, well read, quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>always polite, and he couldn't possibly be dead without telling

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. One afternoon, Lady Tickborn snuck out to see

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<v Speaker 1>a psychic in London, at the type of place where

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<v Speaker 1>a woman of her stature would have been more than

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<v Speaker 1>a little embarrassed to be seen, but Lady Tickborn didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>She brought with her one of Roger's hats and a

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper clipping but the wreck of the Bella, and laid

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<v Speaker 1>her beating heart onto the psychic's velvet covered table. The

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<v Speaker 1>psychic smiled and told Lady Tickborne that, without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>her son was still alive. There were rumors that the

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<v Speaker 1>passengers of the Bella, or at least some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>had been picked up by a ship and brought to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Roger must have been among them. That was the conviction

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<v Speaker 1>that Lady Tickborne carried with her after the death of

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. When her indolent younger son, Alfred became the

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<v Speaker 1>new baronet, it was the conviction that Lady Tickborne carried

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<v Speaker 1>with her when Alfred's drinking and gambling nearly led him

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<v Speaker 1>to bankruptcy and he had to begin to lease out

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<v Speaker 1>the estates of Tickborne Park to tenants. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>conviction that she carried with her when she issued out

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<v Speaker 1>a series of advertisements in Australian newspapers, including the Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Herald, which a lawyer in Wagga Wagga named William

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<v Speaker 1>Gibbs just happened to read. The man who had been

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<v Speaker 1>going under the alias of Thomas Castro, whom history would

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<v Speaker 1>refer to as the Claimant, made his way from Wagga

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<v Speaker 1>Wagga to Sydney, where he raised money from banks on

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<v Speaker 1>the declaration that he was Roger Tickborne, heir to a

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<v Speaker 1>title and a vast fortune. The claimant said he had

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<v Speaker 1>been on the sinking Bella, but had been rescued by

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<v Speaker 1>a ship and made it to Melbourne, and with his

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<v Speaker 1>memories adult from the trauma of the shipwreck, he had

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<v Speaker 1>made up the name Thomas Castro, taking on the surname

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<v Speaker 1>from a kind family he had met in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>The so called Thomas Castro then settled in Wagga Wagga,

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<v Speaker 1>began working as an apprentice. Butcher got married and had

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter. But now the memories were flooding back. He

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<v Speaker 1>was actually Roger Tickborn and all he needed was enough

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<v Speaker 1>money to get back to England to see his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to prove it while in Sydney, the claimant

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<v Speaker 1>meant a man from Roger Tickborn's past life, a servant

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<v Speaker 1>named Andrew Boggle. Boggle was born a slave in Jamaica,

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<v Speaker 1>but had stowed away with Roger's uncle Edward, and worked

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<v Speaker 1>with him as a man servant for many years until

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<v Speaker 1>Edward's death, when Boggle was cast off unceremoniously into forced

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<v Speaker 1>retirement with a tiny pension. Most long time servants at

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<v Speaker 1>the time were given a small property upon retirement. Boggle

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<v Speaker 1>had been given scarcely enough to support himself, which necessitated

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<v Speaker 1>his move to Australia, where living was cheaper. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>Boggle didn't recognize the man calling himself Roger Tickborn. As

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<v Speaker 1>a youth, Roger was lean, all angles and long legs.

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<v Speaker 1>The man before him was nearly two hundred pounds, his

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<v Speaker 1>facial features less defined. During his time in Sydney, the

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<v Speaker 1>claimant would gain twenty pounds, and he would gain another

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<v Speaker 1>forty pounds on the ship from Australia to England. Sympathizers

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<v Speaker 1>explained he was just in joining his new found indulgent lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Skeptics would say the man was purposely trying to distort

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<v Speaker 1>his appearance. But Bogle looked closely and he made his determination.

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<v Speaker 1>The man was most certainly Roger Tickborne. And so, with

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<v Speaker 1>the money he had raised in Australia, he his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter and Boggle would all depart back in order

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<v Speaker 1>to claim his inheritance from his mother, Lady Tickborne. So

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<v Speaker 1>the claimant made his way to England. He stayed at

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel in London and whispered to the man at

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<v Speaker 1>the front desk that his identity was actually that of

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<v Speaker 1>the missing Baronet, Roger Tickborne, but that it was top secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Moms the word. The receptionists promised. First thing that the

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<v Speaker 1>claimant set out to see Lady Tickborne at her London residence,

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<v Speaker 1>but when he got there he was told that the

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<v Speaker 1>lady was residing in Paris. Then the claimant went somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to a rough Cockney neighborhood in East London

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<v Speaker 1>called Wapon and as the first man he saw, if

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<v Speaker 1>he knew the whereabouts of family? Called Orton, Who's asking?

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<v Speaker 1>The stranger responded. The claimant said that he was close

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Arthur Orton. They had worked together in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>on a cattle station. Orton, the claimant said, had done

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly well for himself and was now one of the

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<v Speaker 1>wealthiest and most successful men in Australia. The claimant was

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<v Speaker 1>told that the Orton family had left the area a

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<v Speaker 1>while back. Just over a week later, the claimant met

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Tickborne at the Hotel de Lille in Paris. Upon

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<v Speaker 1>seeing his face, Lady Tickborne burst into tears. It's my son,

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<v Speaker 1>she cried. She embraced him and declared for all the

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<v Speaker 1>world to hear that her lost son Roger, had been

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<v Speaker 1>found at last. Although Lady Tickborne was fully convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>the claimant was the lost heir and haply bestowed an

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<v Speaker 1>income of a thousand pounds a year on him, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Tickborn clan remained less than convinced. The

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<v Speaker 1>claimant's physical stature aside, and by now he was nearly

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred pounds, he didn't speak a word of French,

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<v Speaker 1>nor did he speak with a French accent, and after

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<v Speaker 1>all French had been Roger's first language. The claimant mixed

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<v Speaker 1>up Greek and Latin, didn't know his Virgil, couldn't identify

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<v Speaker 1>distant family members, but then again, he didn't know small

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<v Speaker 1>strange details about Roger's life. He knew the type of

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<v Speaker 1>fly fishing tackle Roger had used and the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the dog he had adopted during his travels in South America.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, he knew where certain paintings were located

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<v Speaker 1>at Tickborne Park. But on the other hand, he had

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<v Speaker 1>referred to his mother, Lady Tickborn, in a letter as Hannah,

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<v Speaker 1>even though her name was Henriette. Still, Lady Tickborn would

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<v Speaker 1>hear nothing against the miraculous return of her son, and

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<v Speaker 1>though the family didn't allow him to formally claim the

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<v Speaker 1>baronet tight after the degenerate Alfred's death, that title went

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<v Speaker 1>to his infant son. The claimant still received a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pounds a year annual income from her ladyship, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was quite content enjoying his new position in society as

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<v Speaker 1>a rogue noble, that is, until Lady Tickborn died. To

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<v Speaker 1>the outrage of the Tickborne family. The claimant took the

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<v Speaker 1>position of chief mourner at her funeral to them, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a low born impostor, an embarrassing blight on their

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<v Speaker 1>family name, and he would receive no title and no

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<v Speaker 1>more money. Bankrupt, the claimants set up a fundraising venture

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<v Speaker 1>in which he issued Tickborn bonds that holders could purchase

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<v Speaker 1>and then received interest for once he had claimed his

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<v Speaker 1>rightful inheritance. He made a living that way, affording enough

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<v Speaker 1>to temporarily maintain his posture living as a noble born gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he actually wished to prove to the world

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<v Speaker 1>that he was Roger Tickborne, then the claimant had only

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<v Speaker 1>one an option. He needed to go to court. While

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<v Speaker 1>the claimant was living as either a pretender or a

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<v Speaker 1>populist hero, depending on your perspective, members of the Tickborne

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<v Speaker 1>family sent private investigators to try to look into the

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<v Speaker 1>story that they were told the cleimant had mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>he used to work with a man named Arthur Orton

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<v Speaker 1>on a cattle ranch in Australia. Maybe if they could

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<v Speaker 1>find Orton, they would uncover the truth about the claimant.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tickborne family agent traveled down to Australia and made

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<v Speaker 1>it to the old cattle station where the claimant had

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to work a place run by a man named

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<v Speaker 1>William Foster. Foster's widow checked the old employment records. There

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<v Speaker 1>was an Arthur Orton listed, but no one by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Thomas Castro the claimants alias. Maybe he had

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<v Speaker 1>been using another alias at the time. The agent showed

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<v Speaker 1>the widow the photograph of the man claiming to be

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Tickborn. Oh I do know him, she said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Orton. Arthur Orton, born in Wapping in England, was

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<v Speaker 1>the son of a butcher who had traveled to Chile

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man and later moved to Australia. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked at the cattle station owned by William Foster, but

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<v Speaker 1>his paper trail ends there. It's as if he disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>from existence or took up a new identity. When the

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<v Speaker 1>claimants civil trial came to court in eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense lawyer asked about the mysterious Arthur Orton. The

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<v Speaker 1>claimant was evasive, saying they had been friends in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>but that saying anything else about the time they had

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<v Speaker 1>spent together would incriminate him. Finally, the lawyer asked the

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<v Speaker 1>man on the standpoint blank, are you Arthur Orton? No?

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<v Speaker 1>The claimant responded, I am not at stake in the

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<v Speaker 1>trial was Tickborne Park, which consisted of over two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>acres manners farm land in Hampshire and a number of

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<v Speaker 1>other properties in London and beyond. The baronet title would

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<v Speaker 1>afford whoever held it an annual income of what to

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<v Speaker 1>day would be several millions of dollars. The witnesses lined

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<v Speaker 1>up to testify. Some pointed out that the claimant couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak French, or claimed that the real Roger Tickborn had

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<v Speaker 1>had tattoos. But some witnesses, former soldiers in Roger's battalion,

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<v Speaker 1>a servant that Roger had traveled with in South America,

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<v Speaker 1>maintained that after spending time with the man, the claimant

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<v Speaker 1>was Roger Tickborne. The defense lawyer had two hundred witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go to disprove that claim, but the judge

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<v Speaker 1>held up his hand no more witnesses would be necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>The case was dismissed and the claimant was arrested on

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<v Speaker 1>charges of perjury. During that civil trial, the claimant had

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<v Speaker 1>become a massively popular figure of the public imagination. Here

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<v Speaker 1>was a working class hero with a Cockney accent going

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<v Speaker 1>up against the aristocracy and the criminal system, being denied

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<v Speaker 1>something that belonged to him. I appealed to every British

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<v Speaker 1>soul who was inspired by a love of justice and

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<v Speaker 1>fair play, and is willing to defend the weak against

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<v Speaker 1>the strong, The claimant wrote in an essay appealing for

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<v Speaker 1>donations for his upcoming criminal trial. Support poured in his

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<v Speaker 1>story was a Victorian sensation. His trial followed breathlessly. Knick

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<v Speaker 1>knacks were sold featuring the major players of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Tickborne was recreated in wax at Madame Tousseau's In a

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<v Speaker 1>political cartoon published in Punch magazine in eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>the claimants to destroy the shoulders of a man demarcated

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<v Speaker 1>as quote representing the British public. The quote British public

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<v Speaker 1>man is sweating and read under the significant weight of

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<v Speaker 1>the claimant, his cheeks puffed out with effort. On either

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<v Speaker 1>side of the men are crowd holding signs Australia police, socialism, politics.

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<v Speaker 1>The caption of the cartoon reads, I cannot be expected

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<v Speaker 1>to attend to any of you with this interesting topic

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<v Speaker 1>on my shoulders. George Bernard Shaw wrote about the case

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<v Speaker 1>and its peculiar contradictions and the introduction to his play

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Cles and the Lion, A Shaw wrote, the claimants

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to pass himself off as a baronet was supported

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<v Speaker 1>by an association of laborers, on the ground that the

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<v Speaker 1>tick Borne family, in resisting it, were trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>a laborer out of his rights. Two Shaw, the paradox

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<v Speaker 1>was obvious, who had to believe simultaneously that this man

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<v Speaker 1>was a cockney workman just like you, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that he was a born and raised, legitimate aristocrat.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Twain also paid attention to the massively popular trial.

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<v Speaker 1>While in London, the celebrated writer was at a party

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<v Speaker 1>with the claimant, where he noticed the way Uppercross men

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<v Speaker 1>and women in high society always referred to him as

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Roger. It was Sir Roger, always, Sir Roger, on

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<v Speaker 1>all hands, no one withheld the title. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>upper Cross didn't really believe that the man was Sir Roger.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason that this man had been invited to

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<v Speaker 1>all these parties in the first place had been a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a joke, a hilarious little pantomime like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a monkey dressed in human clothes. But the claimant maintained

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<v Speaker 1>that he was Roger Tickborne, never wavering even as lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>and witnesses abandoned his case. His criminal trial for perjury

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<v Speaker 1>lasted one hundred and eighty eight days, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>longest trials in English history, but the deliberation lasted only

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes. The jury declared that he was not Roger Tickborn,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was guilty on two counts of perjury and

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to fourteen years in prison. The loss in court

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing to quell the groundswell of popular support among

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<v Speaker 1>the working class for the claimant and his lawyer, an

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<v Speaker 1>eccentric irishman named Keennoy, who was ultimately disbarred thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>his violent and excessive performance in court during the trial.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kenoy used that popularity to launch a campaign for

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<v Speaker 1>election to Parliament, which he won in a landslide victory.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the people were hoping for a champion, they

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<v Speaker 1>had unfortunately chosen the wrong one. Keen only attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>get the House of Commons to establish a Royal Commission

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<v Speaker 1>to re examine the Tickborn case, but it only received

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<v Speaker 1>a single gay vote. His own popularity and fervor over

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Tickborne and his mysterious disappearance and reappearance gradually dissolved,

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<v Speaker 1>and newspapers moved on to covering newer and more exciting gossip.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighty four, after serving a ten year sentence, the

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<v Speaker 1>man the public had come to know as the Claimant

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<v Speaker 1>was released from prison. He had lost nearly a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty pounds. Ironically, his time in jail had made

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<v Speaker 1>him look even more like Roger Tickborn than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>His old supporters attempted to rally him into their populist

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<v Speaker 1>political movements, but the claimant had no interest in any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Instead, he made paid appearances at dance halls

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<v Speaker 1>and circuses and married a young music hall singer he

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<v Speaker 1>had long since separated from his Australian wife. When no

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<v Speaker 1>one in England seemed to care about him anymore, he

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<v Speaker 1>went to America, where he thought he still might make

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<v Speaker 1>some money. But no one in America cared about who

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<v Speaker 1>he was either, and the claimant worked as a bartender

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<v Speaker 1>there Before coming back to England. A newspaper paid him

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<v Speaker 1>a few hundred pounds for a confession that he was

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Orton all along. The claimant retracted that confession as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as he spent the money. The claimant died in

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<v Speaker 1>abject poverty on April Fool's Day in eighteen. His funeral

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<v Speaker 1>was attended by nearly five thousand people. For one last moment,

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<v Speaker 1>the public seemed to care about him again. Some call

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<v Speaker 1>it foolishness or kindness or mercy, but for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tickborne family permitted a card on the claimant's coffin

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<v Speaker 1>that said Sir Roger Charles Doughty Tickborn. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was a coffin that bared the title of a baronet

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<v Speaker 1>that was laid into a pauper's grave. That's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the claimant's life, but his story doesn't end there.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around after a brief sponsor break to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about how the Tickborn case lives on a century later.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Tickborne controversy had happened a century before the

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<v Speaker 1>discovery of DNA evidence, it's impossible to determine for certain

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<v Speaker 1>who the claimant actually was. He went to his grave

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<v Speaker 1>still declaring that he was Roger Tickborn. Years later, the

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<v Speaker 1>claimant's daughter would go on to say that her father

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<v Speaker 1>had confessed to her that he had accidentally killed Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Orton back in Australia, and that's why he couldn't reveal

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<v Speaker 1>the true details of his past. The claimant's daughter would

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lifetime declaring that she was Roger Tickborne's daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Some believe that the claimant was Arthur Orton all along,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he was helped in the details of Roger's

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<v Speaker 1>life by the disgruntled servant Boggle, angry at the Tickborne

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<v Speaker 1>family for terminating his position and looking for revenge, Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>they orchestrated the conspiracy together. Another theory is that the

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<v Speaker 1>real Roger Tickborn had made it to Australia and befriended

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<v Speaker 1>the man who would later claim his identity. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>man had killed the real Roger Tickborn. In his nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven book The Tickborne Claimant, Douglas Woodruff argues that

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible the claimant actually might have been the real

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Tickborn all along. After all, what kind of lunatic

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<v Speaker 1>would travel halfway across the world with the wife and

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<v Speaker 1>daughter in tow to meet a mother and a family

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<v Speaker 1>he knew nothing about if he had nothing to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>The soap opera saga of the Tickborn case captivated the

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<v Speaker 1>Victorian public, but it's a story that continues to fascinate

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<v Speaker 1>modern audiences. In the Simpsons, writer Ken Keeler Pendant episode,

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<v Speaker 1>he says was influenced by the Tickborn case. In the

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<v Speaker 1>episode Principal, Skinner reveals that his real name is Armand

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<v Speaker 1>Tamsarian and that as a soldier in the Vietnam War,

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<v Speaker 1>he made friends with the fellow platoon man named Skinner.

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<v Speaker 1>When Skinner was assumed dead, Tamsarian went to Springfield in

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<v Speaker 1>order to deliver the bad news to his mother. Mrs

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<v Speaker 1>Skinner mistook Tamsarian for her own son, and Tam'sarian began

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<v Speaker 1>life anew under a false name. It was an episode

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<v Speaker 1>so outlandish that some critics consider at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>The Simpsons Golden Age. Ironically enough, the episode takes its

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<v Speaker 1>title from a story by Mark Twain. It's called The

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<v Speaker 1>Principal and the Pauper. Noble Blood is a co production

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