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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: Draft Show returns here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, as

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Speaker 1: we will continue to break down the NFL Draft April

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Speaker 1: twenty nine in Cleveland, Ohio. As we're now closing in

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Speaker 1: on sixty days until the draft is finally here, and

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Speaker 1: it is crunch time. As the Senior Bowls in the past,

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Speaker 1: we're closing in on Pro days, lots of Pro days

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Speaker 1: let me introduce the door normal Thursday crew. We've got

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Speaker 1: the road. I'm Kyle Yeoman's leading the way as always, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: it's been a crazy week for a lot of you

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Speaker 1: I want to take some time to say prayers out

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Speaker 1: to everybody affected by the winter storm in Texas and

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Speaker 1: been a tough week. Jeff, you're doing okay over there.

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Speaker 1: it very very easy. Tatsy, the same kind of thing

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Speaker 1: have it too. Yeah, it's terrible. Uh it's and you

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess there's a part of me

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Speaker 1: on core. Yeah, it got an interesting week for sure

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Speaker 1: in Texas. But Dane, you're up in Ohio. How has

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Speaker 1: gonna be real hot up in here. Okay, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead and go into a hot topic among Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell gave up more yards in the Alabama game

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Speaker 1: And Dane's guy knew him at Northwestern. He's my tenth

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Speaker 1: my tenth corner. I have ten guys that I think

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Speaker 1: going through Sir Tan's notes and I'm like, that's pretty

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Speaker 1: Farley it's like, hey, here's what he could be, and

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a really fun group, and I think

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Speaker 1: could find I think a really good player at forty four,

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Speaker 1: maybe even in the third round. But yes, everyone's going

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Speaker 1: to be varied, and I know that I am varied

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Speaker 1: from what a lot of people think. There's no need

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Speaker 1: to make any hot chocolate after those hot takes from

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Speaker 1: Jeff shirts coming off Babe leaving on. I think the

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Speaker 1: Eric Stokes for me is my cornerback four. I have

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Speaker 1: two freas roungraded corners, Farley and then Curtan. I am

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Speaker 1: bit safer. I want to go to Eric Stokes because

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, and I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: what the targets are compared to him and Campbell, who

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Speaker 1: it feels like watching the take, Campbell was definitely targeted

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Speaker 1: more like Noah. Stokes only allowed sixteen receptions this year.

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Speaker 1: The longest reception he gave up was eighteen yards. And

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Speaker 1: to me, I think Eric Stokes is fast. Like everyone

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Speaker 1: talks about how athletic Tyson Campbell is and you can

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Speaker 1: think he can settle, redirect, do you do these things.

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Speaker 1: One other name that I think should keep stay on

428
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Speaker 1: the radar for this the Cowboys scheme and maybe what

429
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Speaker 1: they're looking for maybe in that fourth round would be

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Speaker 1: Keith Taylor out of Washington six two and a half

431
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Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds. I think he fits that scheme really well.

432
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Speaker 1: And then also Benjamin Saints juiced from Minnesota, a Canadian

433
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Speaker 1: who another tall, leggy corner who has a lot of

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Speaker 1: traits that are appealing. And both those guys help themselves

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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and have a chance to be

436
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Speaker 1: in early day three range, maybe even pushed for more.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Those are a lot of guys that

438
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys could potentially look at because they doubled up

439
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Speaker 1: last year at corner, and like we talked about already,

440
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Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson barely could get get onto the field. But

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there was one place you

442
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443
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Speaker 1: There he goes, as always, Chris being doing fantastic work

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Speaker 1: in the back end. Well, guys, we've got some really

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Speaker 1: good ones to get to We'll start things off with

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Speaker 1: Coope Gordon on Twitter. He hit me up and said,

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Speaker 1: how does Oklahoma edge rusher Ronnie Perkins fit into what

486
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Speaker 1: dan Quinn is trying to do in Dallas? Also, what

487
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Speaker 1: do you think he will be drafted? Because he was

488
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Speaker 1: dominant at OU last year? Katie any thoughts on mister

489
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins. Yeah, Ronnie Perkins is an interesting cat right there.

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Speaker 1: I almost think what Dane said on that he could

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Speaker 1: go twenty five, he could go fifty five. Maybe I

492
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Speaker 1: would extend that up to seventy five. Maybe. I mean,

493
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: for me, I've got a third round grade on him.

494
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: But he is a really good player. And if you

495
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Speaker 1: talk to Oklahoma people, they will tell you that they

496
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Speaker 1: were a way worse defense without him than with him.

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Speaker 1: He had consistent production. I think he's the definition of solid.

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Speaker 1: You know, five and a half sacks, then six sacks,

499
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Speaker 1: and then five and a half sacks in his three

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Speaker 1: years at OHU. Good hands, good hands player, good upper

501
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Speaker 1: body strength, you know, really good get off and you

502
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Speaker 1: know snap anticipation explodes off the line of scrimmage. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't call him stiff, but he's definitely

504
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: not a Gumby. You know, he's not the most bendy guy,

505
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: but you know he's a strong enough guy and he'll

506
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Speaker 1: set the edge against the run and things like that.

507
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: He's not the longest guys. I have him at sixty

508
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Speaker 1: three two forty seven, but you know, I would say

509
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Speaker 1: he plays like a two hundred and sixty five or

510
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five pound guy. You know, you

511
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: look at the tape, you look at his body and

512
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Speaker 1: guns that really is that really two hundred and forty

513
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Speaker 1: five pounds? Um? You do have a question with the

514
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Speaker 1: drug testum. This is in twenty nineteen, he missed the

515
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Speaker 1: Peach Bowl with five other players, including the running back

516
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Speaker 1: Ramondre Stevenson, tested positive for a little THHC. But you know,

517
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Speaker 1: oh no, hey, I'm not letting you know. I'm kind

518
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: of ruling that I'm getting a free pass there, right.

519
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Speaker 1: So you know, Perkins is an interesting name. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like keeping this from a cowblished perspective, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: I'm totally interested in drafting him at pick forty four,

522
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Speaker 1: but you start talking about if he's a guy who's

523
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Speaker 1: there in the third round, then maybe. But I think

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see him slide up. I think

525
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: people are gonna start paying a little more attention to

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins, and wouldn't surprise me at all if he's

527
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Speaker 1: taken in the first two rounds day. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's I grated him as a third um. I think

529
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: he takes advantage of that slanting defensive system they use

530
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: there at Oklahoma, and that really helped boost his production.

531
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with a lot of what Ktesi said.

532
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I think he's got heavy hands, he attacks the chest

533
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: of blockers, he can stick staff, keep distance. I don't

534
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: know how instinctive he is as a pass rusher. That

535
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: that bothered me a little bit. You know, you don't

536
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Speaker 1: see a rush plan, you don't see an arsenal of

537
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: move and so you know it's going to take a

538
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: little bit of development there. But I like the way

539
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: that he'll use his forward lean to use his length,

540
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: to use his power. He's very balanced in his movement,

541
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: so he can get himself free from blocks, make plays.

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00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I see a potential starter either in a

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00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: fourth three and a three to four. It's just yeah,

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: obviously the failed drug test, you have to figure out

545
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: what's going on there. You know, I don't. It sounds

546
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: like a situation where he's really well liked in that

547
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: locker room. Just you have to vet his off field

548
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Speaker 1: decision making. So a third. I great him as a third,

549
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Speaker 1: but you know if he ended up going top fifty

550
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a complete shock. All right, Jeff, I've got

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Speaker 1: a really hot take topic for you on this next

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty question. So this is all for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for this answer. So Chris Staff on Twitter said,

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Speaker 1: first off, he hopes everybody is safe and well. And

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Speaker 1: the question is, let's assume, and I assume pretty much

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Speaker 1: hope that Trey Lance is available at number ten. Of course,

557
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Speaker 1: the quarterback out of North Dakota State, which team from

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Speaker 1: twelve to twenty five is most likely to trade up

559
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Speaker 1: to pick number ten with the Cowboys for him. And

560
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: what would be a realistic trade scenario or do the

561
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys take him? Mister Jeff Cavanaugh, I can do this

562
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: off the top of my head because I've played with

563
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: this too many times on simulators. I've gone down to

564
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Speaker 1: around twenty and then been really mad at myself for

565
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: going down to twenty because all the names I wanted disappeared.

566
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Speaker 1: So to me, the dream would be you go to

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Speaker 1: fifteen and you get fifteen and forty six from New England,

568
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Speaker 1: and since they're taking a quarterback, you may even be

569
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: able to sneak out a little more. But and I'm

570
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna take this back to what we were talking about

571
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Speaker 1: with the cornerback class, I'm gonna have him in a

572
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: certain order. But if you told me j C. Horne's

573
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Speaker 1: going to have a better career than Caleb Farley, I'd go,

574
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: all right, I believe you. And if you told me

575
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Speaker 1: pick another one and it's gonna go that wayd go Okay,

576
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: I believe you. So that would kind of be the

577
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: dream to me. I think, as you go to fifteen,

578
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Speaker 1: you pick up JC Horn and and now I got

579
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Speaker 1: a corner that I feel about as good as I

580
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Speaker 1: would have felt with either of the other top two corners,

581
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Speaker 1: and I've got an additional pick right there in the

582
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Speaker 1: middle of the second round. That's the dream trade of

583
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Speaker 1: the quarterback fifteen and forty six. And if you can

584
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Speaker 1: get more than that, great, But if not, I'm j

585
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: C horning this thing all the way to the bank.

586
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Speaker 1: I like that idea. I think that would be ideal

587
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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys honestly if they didn't feel comfortable with

588
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Speaker 1: one of those top two corners like a Sutana or

589
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: a Farley. But kind of sticking with this, and you

590
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: talked about trading back into the twenties. If the Cowboys

591
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Speaker 1: were to trade back into the twenties, Travis Ferguson on

592
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Speaker 1: Twitter said, which later first early second round offensive tackle

593
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: prospect would you like better if the Cowboys were to

594
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: trade back to about the twenty mark is A Jalen Mayfield,

595
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Speaker 1: Christian Derri Saw Leam Mikenberg out of Notre Dame, a

596
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: VT or Alex Leatherwood out of those guys Dame? Which

597
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: one would you like more if the Cowboys were to

598
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: potentially trade back and have that nightmare scenario that Jeff

599
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: just kind of talked about, but still have a chance

600
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: at a young tackle. Uh. For me, no question to

601
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: be Darri Saw out of that group. Um. You know,

602
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: I just think he's a guy that's you know, the

603
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: body control, the feat that he has, the technique, the torque. Uh,

604
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, the way he shows up both in past

605
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: protection and the run game. Uh, you know, he's he

606
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: can manhandle guys in front of him. So there's a

607
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: lot to like about Christian Dara saw and if he's

608
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Speaker 1: if I have a chance at him, uh in the

609
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Speaker 1: first I'm feeling good about that, especially after a trade down.

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Speaker 1: It's a really interesting tackle group, you know. Like for me,

611
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Speaker 1: Jalen Mayfield, I really like him. I think he's a

612
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: better guard. Um, you know, like uh, you know, like

613
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Keevin Jenkins I from Oklahoma State really like him. I

614
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: do question we'll be able to hold up at left tackle. Um.

615
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: And so there's there's kind of questions with each one

616
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Speaker 1: of these guys. And that's why you know we're talking

617
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: about them as late ones, not early ones. Um. Yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: So it's a really really interesting group. H And real

619
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Speaker 1: quick to go back to what Jeff was just talking about,

620
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Speaker 1: i'd be I'm gonna press you on this, Jeff. Why

621
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Speaker 1: j C Horn over one of the linebackers. Let's say

622
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: every say none of the linebackers were drafted up to

623
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Speaker 1: that point, so you have your choice of any of

624
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Speaker 1: the linebackers at fifteen? Are you still going horn over

625
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: any one of those guys? Plus when you consider you're

626
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: almost guaranteed one of you know, Stokes Newsome, Joseph you know,

627
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: all those corners we talked about in the first segment. Oh,

628
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: there's a very very high chance at least one of

629
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Speaker 1: them is going to be there for you at forty four.

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Speaker 1: Does that influence your decision at all? At number fifteen?

631
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Speaker 1: I don't trust Parsons. Here's my problem with linebacker. Tell

632
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: me what they're doing with the other two on the roster,

633
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: because in this scenario, I think you're talking about for me,

634
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Usu Cormoa, Nick Bolton, Michael Parsons all first round guys,

635
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: J C. Horne, first round So I like them all.

636
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: I'll figure out how to stack them later. But to me,

637
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: I think cornerback is the more valuable position. So if

638
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Speaker 1: I have a choice between guys that I consider close,

639
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I would air on the side of corner anyway. And

640
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: that's without even factoring in that the Cowboys currently are

641
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: going to run out Trevon Diggs, Anthony Brown and Oh.

642
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: So like at linebacker, I'd have to create a hole

643
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: to go fill that hole, which I don't mind doing

644
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: with at least one of them on the roster. For

645
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: being honest, Yeah, yeah, I feel I feel safer with

646
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: JC Horn than any linebacker in this draft, and I

647
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: love Coramoa, but I'm also projecting a move to will

648
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: linebacker for a guy who didn't play in the box

649
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: linebacker all that often at Notre Dame D Yeah, fair enough.

650
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's when you talk about these linebackers.

651
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean still like Parsons. I mean, I think, you know,

652
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: as long as I'm comfortable with the off field stuff,

653
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: which is something we're going to keep working through, as

654
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: long as we're comfortable with his maturity, I think he's

655
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: the best linebacker in his class. But I still really

656
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: like Coromoa. And you know, it's just you have to

657
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: have a plan for him, you know, because he's not

658
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: a true safety and he's not a true linebacker. You're

659
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: you're kind of doing a little bit of a mix

660
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: and whether that means having a designated nickel position for

661
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: him or whatever you're doing, if you have a plan, Yeah,

662
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: he's worth that pick. He's so explosive. I think at fifteen,

663
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm you know, as as long as the current situation

664
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Speaker 1: on the rosters figured out and we have a hole there,

665
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: we have a chance to upgrade, and we take advantage

666
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: of it. I think I'm leaning towards one of those linebackers,

667
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: and then you know, not now it's it's because of

668
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: those linebackers, not because of the depth of corner. But

669
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: that doesn't hurt as well, knowing that, I feel really

670
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: good about my second round corner options at forty four,

671
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: So you know, it's this linebacker group is interesting. I'm

672
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: still a big believer in person's talent. There's just there's

673
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: so much there that, uh is high level stuff, and

674
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: as long as you're comfortable with the person, I feel

675
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: really good about the player. Katsie, I'm interested in your

676
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: opinion on these linebackers and what the Cowboys would maybe

677
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: potentially lean on doing, because I like what Jeff said

678
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: about creating that hole, and I think we all kind

679
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: of look at it and say, fifty four is the

680
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: hole that they would have to create. WHOA man, I

681
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: just I'm throwing it out there. I don't want to

682
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: be a Cowboy who we're going to replace if we

683
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: draft four. I'm sure you do. I'm sure that's not

684
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: who you weren't you were talking about. But Katie, any

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: any potential there with the Cowboys and linebacker with the

686
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: prospects that are at hand, I thought you were talking

687
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: about Joe Thomas not coming back. I thought it was

688
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. Interesting, you know, on that right there again,

689
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I still have a second run grade on

690
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: jac Horne. He's my third corner, but I have a

691
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: pretty big drop off between Farley certain But in this scenario,

692
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: it's important to remember that you have pick fifteen, pick

693
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: forty four, and pick forty six, So I am a

694
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: little more comfortable taking a linebacker there if it's the

695
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: guy I like. We've heard the Cowboys are interested in

696
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: Zavin Collins or at least like Xavin Collins. You know,

697
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't have him graded above. You know, Michael Parsons.

698
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Coramella is my favorite player in the draft overall. I'm

699
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: not saying it's my number one right player in the draft,

700
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: but that's my favorite player of the draft. Just I

701
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: love watching him play, and I personally, on my board

702
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: would have him graded a little bit higher than Michael

703
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: Parsons because we do need to find out a little more.

704
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: And also the instincts of Michael Parsons are sometimes questionable,

705
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: and it bothers me a little bit, like I don't,

706
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I hate being I hate having the idea

707
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: of Okay, if I if I draft this guy, what

708
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 1: do I do with him? Well, you're a smart NFL coach,

709
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: you figure out what to do with him, right Like,

710
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: So I'm taking the player I like. And if Coromoa

711
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: is there and i'm taking I'm taking him at fifteen.

712
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Like that's easy. I wouldn't take Coromoa over Farley or

713
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Certan on this team unless some roster moves are made

714
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: and then we can kind of go back and reevaluate that.

715
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at. I'm also a fan of

716
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: taking linebackers late. I think you can get linebacker linebacking

717
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: help on day three, you know, I think. And also

718
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: there's a guy I need to ask you about, Dane

719
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: because I don't have a ton of Michigan tamp unfortunately.

720
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Hey tell me about Cameron mcgrone. And I know he's

721
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: only got like sixteen games on his ledger, But Cameron

722
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: mcgrone from the little bit that I've seen on blipcam.

723
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: Because I can't find any all twenty two and Michigan

724
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: for some reason, and maybe we have some and I

725
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: just missed it. Tell me about Cameron mcgron, the linebacker

726
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: from Michigan, because he looks fun Yeah, he's really really,

727
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: really really fast and he can run. He filled the

728
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: shoes of Devin Bush after he left Michigan, and mcgrown

729
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: stepped in and made a pretty quick impact as a

730
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: as a sophomore. Biggest worry with him might be the injuries.

731
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: He had an acl uh in high school and then

732
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: had a pretty bad knee injury h late this past

733
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: year against Rutgers. Um So, the health of his knee

734
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty important. But this is a guy

735
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: that can just he can. He could run all over

736
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: at the athleticism, the instincts are are fantastic. If he

737
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: doesn't play out in front, then he usually gets in

738
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: trouble because he you know, he doesn't have necessarily the

739
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: play strength that you want. Uh So, I think those

740
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: issues are going to going to hurt him. Um So,

741
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: you factor in the inexperience, the injuries that we're talking

742
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: more a day three flyer, and you kind of hope

743
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: he stays healthy and can get on the field. But

744
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the speed and his ability to do you know, trust

745
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: his vision which lisnt to play even faster, is really

746
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: really intriguing. I just hope he can stay on the

747
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: field now. Kind of coming back to these these offensive

748
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: tackles that we were talking about a little bit earlier.

749
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: We had multiple Twitter on the twenty questions asking about

750
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: later round deep or offensive tackles rather Connor Livesay, who

751
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: we had some trip trouble with last time, he asked

752
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the question whole completely messed it all up. I have checked.

753
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: This guy is indeed in the draft, But where is

754
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Deante Smith, the East Carolina offensive tackle going to end up?

755
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: He said he doesn't love his tape, his traits, his versatility,

756
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: and his senior Bowl We're all tremendous, though, So where

757
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: does he make it? Does he make it to the

758
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: fourth for Dallas and Dane? Are there any other offensive

759
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: tackles late in the draft that the Cowboys could potentially

760
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: get for some offensive line death? Well, yeah, this offensive

761
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: tackle class is just it's loaded sacked. And last year

762
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: we had five going to top top twenty, and it

763
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: was very top heavy. This year it's you know, we're

764
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: gonna have two, you know, maybe we get to three

765
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: around there in the top twenty, but it just it stretches,

766
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: and I don't know how we're gonna fit all these

767
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: tackles in the top one hundred picks. In the third

768
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: in the top three rounds. Uh. You know, because even

769
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: after you get past Penny Sewell and Rashaun Slater and

770
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: Christian dry Saw on Jenkins, you've got guys like Sam

771
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Cosmi and Leah Meikeenberg. I really like James Hudson at Cincinnati.

772
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: H Dylan Radens in North Dakota State. He's somewhere on

773
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: day two. Walker Little from Stanford. We can't forget about him.

774
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: He's been out of sight, out of mind after he

775
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: had a really nice ches in eighteen season, hurt chess

776
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: and nineteen and then opted out this past year. Brady

777
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Christian said at b YU, a little bit of an

778
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: older player, but he's a he's a really solid left tackle.

779
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: Uh So, I mean I just mentioned those are ten

780
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: names right there, and all ten could go in the

781
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: top one hundred picks, and so Deante Smith, I think

782
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: you could make a case has top one hundred traits

783
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: because you know, as as as Connor said, uh, you know,

784
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: you like six five, three hundred pounds and thirty five

785
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: and a quarter in charms, really quick feet, and during

786
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: seniorbal practices he held up verse power, he helped verse quickness.

787
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: Uh you know, really helped himself, and so I think

788
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: he's probably early day three, like somewhere in the fourth.

789
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: But it's more because just you know, some of these

790
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: tackles are gonna have to fall out of the top

791
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: one hundred and he might be one of them. So

792
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: the tape isn't amazing, but the foundational traits are there.

793
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna take a chance on traits at

794
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: the tackle position. Jontay Smith is is how it looks, um.

795
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: And so if we're looking for other guys that could

796
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: possibly be fits later on, uh, you know, Spencer Brown

797
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: from Northern Iowa was a developmental guy. Uh you know,

798
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of tools to work with. UM.

799
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, Larry Boreham from Missouri as a Richard junior

800
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: who came out is really raw, but he's got some talent.

801
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: If you can get him a fifth or sixth round,

802
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the type of guy you'd like

803
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: to develop. So this tackle class is loaded from the

804
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: top to bottom. It stretches really well, and so you

805
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: can feel good about getting a tackle at different points

806
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: of the draft. I want to add one more name

807
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: just because I watched him last night and this is

808
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: from Jeff's Oklahoma Sooners fifth round Adrian Elie office the tackle.

809
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I just like the way that he moved a little

810
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: bit in the run blocking game, just like right tackle

811
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: and hey man all the way over there, hit his

812
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: targets on the left side of the field. I'd like

813
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: to see him a big guys moving around like that.

814
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: So oh in fifth round, not like in love or anything,

815
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: but just a name throwing it out there. He's got

816
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: starting potential. Yeah, that's that's a good name. You're throwing

817
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: out offensive tackle names. How about we throw out some

818
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:50,480
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00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,600
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Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show, Kyle Yeoman's alongside Dane Brugler Kevin

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00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: kat Turner and Jeff Cavanall. And good thing we're talking

866
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, because there's some breaking news straight from the

867
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Speaker 1: twitter of Adam Schefter. Philadelphia has agreed to trade quarterback

868
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Speaker 1: Carson Wins to the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for a

869
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one third round pick and conditional twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two second round pick that could turn into a first league,

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00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: sources tell Adam Schefter. So with that being, we were

872
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: going to talk about these quarterbacks, but let's talk about

873
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of instant reaction from what was a former number

874
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: two overall pick in the draft out of North Dakota State.

875
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a North Dakota State quarterback that's going

876
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: to be taken in the top ten this year seemingly,

877
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: and Trey Lance. But Jeff, what are your thoughts overall

878
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: about the Philadelphia trade? As Carson Wentz is now a cult,

879
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Carson, the Carson Wentz part of it. I

880
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: just I don't know how that's gonna play out, because

881
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: that this year was a collapse that it's just so

882
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: weird to see a guy who had shown a decent

883
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: amount of ability to suddenly look like you couldn't play

884
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: the position, and to blame it on the circumstances or

885
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: the coaching or whatever, I think is garbage because they

886
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: replaced him with a guy who's not an NFL quarterback,

887
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: I don't think, and the team got better. So I

888
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: don't know how to play out for Wentz. I think

889
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: I look at as like the Eagles best chance to

890
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: be a good team was for Carson Wentz. To rEFInd

891
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: it because now I don't believe that they have an

892
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: NFL starter on their roster at quarterback. So um, I

893
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: guess my first thought is always, don't let them take

894
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Don't let them take a quarterback. Don't let

895
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: them take a quarterback. I just hope that the Eagles

896
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: take a receiver or a corner at six and think

897
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: that Jalen Hurts is the answer, because I think if

898
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: they do that, they're not a threat at all. Yeah,

899
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: well you don't. You don't draft a quarterback in the

900
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: second round unless you really like them, right, I mean,

901
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: you know the it just it was a fascinating pick

902
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: when they made it, and it's even more fascinating now

903
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: with the everything going on. I love this for the

904
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Colts to be honest with you. I mean it's not

905
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: you're not giving up a lot. You're a third and

906
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: a conditional two. Carson Wentz as a plenty of talent,

907
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: and it's not a talent question. And we have to

908
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: remember he's being reunited with Frank Reich, who when he

909
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles, that's that that's what helped unlock

910
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that talent for Carson Wentz and so

911
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: reunite those two. It's a perfect fit for Wentz if

912
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: he's going to get his mojo back, if he's going

913
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: to figure it out, it's going to happen with Indianapolis

914
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: and for the Colts, obviously Philip Rivers has retired. Okay,

915
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: you need to do something a quarterback. They you know,

916
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: they went after Stafford. They've been looking at their quarterback options.

917
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: They're sitting there at twenty one in the draft. They

918
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: don't feel great about being able to trade up and

919
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: get one of the one of these rookie quarterbacks. They're

920
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: a win now team. So I you know, they didn't

921
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: overpay for Carson Wentz. I mean, I think you're talking

922
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: about the potential hit rate here. I think it's it's

923
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: a fair deal. So you know, I like it for

924
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: both sides. Uh, you know the Carson Wentz side and

925
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: you know the Colts what this could be for them.

926
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: It's go for it, k oh It's it's the best

927
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: possible fit for Carson Wentz because the roster does matter.

928
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: M And I'm not a huge Wins fan, but the

929
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: roster matters, and Brad Ballard is going to give you

930
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: a better roster than what you were getting in Philadelphia

931
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: at the time. We've seen that. And also, just for

932
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: a fun fact, from O nine to twenty sixteen, of

933
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: the twenty two quarterbacks selected in the first round, none

934
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: of them were with their team that drafted them. So wow,

935
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. That's pretty fantastic. Good fun fact there, Katie,

936
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Speaker 1: I like it. I stell it from someone on Twitter,

937
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that's fair. Kind of going off of

938
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: what Dane was talking about a minute ago, and Katie

939
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: even jaff rather whenever you kind of talked about how

940
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: this affects the Cowboys. It affects the Cowboys in a

941
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: couple of ways. One was like, you said, is Philadelphia

942
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: really going to be a threat? Are they going to

943
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: take a quarterback with that sixth overall pick. That's one

944
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: of the big questions. The second one is it takes

945
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: a team away from you that may have wanted to

946
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: trade up at ten and potentially get a quarterback because

947
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: the Colts aren't going to go trade for a quarterback

948
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: at this point, or at least seemingly that's the case.

949
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: They're not going to try and trade from twenty one

950
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: up to ten. So there's two ways that it's affected.

951
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: The third one is does this give you pause? Like

952
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: you said, Kati, that's a long stretch of time where

953
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: that quarterback has not been with their team after being

954
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: selected in the first round, and of course with the

955
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott situation. With these quarterbacks on the board, Dane

956
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: put out his top ten quarterbacks in Top ten Prospects ranked. Again,

957
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: that'll continue to change by everybody's means as the year

958
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: goes along. However, does this give you pause any Dane

959
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: about taking a quarterback at ten if the Cowboys don't

960
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: get Dak Prescott on under contract. I mean, it's I

961
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: just I can't envision a scenario where that's the case. Um,

962
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Cowboys, you do your due

963
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: diligence on these quarterbacks. You just you just never know. Um,

964
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: there's there's always a chance, and so you do your

965
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: due diligence and see if you fall in love with

966
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: any of these guys. Um, you're just you're not even

967
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: sure who's gonna be there at ten. There's there's a

968
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: favorable chance that none of these, you know, the top

969
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks will even be there for you. So it's

970
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: it's a really interesting uh you know, pecking order with these,

971
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, the quarterbacks after Lawrence. Um, you know, I

972
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: some will say that, you know, Zach Wilson, uh, maybe

973
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: has a chance to go above Lawrence, and that's get

974
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: out of here. Come on, it's not happening. Trevor Lawrence

975
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: is going number one. He'd be number one in a lot.

976
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: He would have been number one last year over Borrow,

977
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: he would he'd be going number one over a lot

978
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: of other in a lot of other draft classes. Um,

979
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: I trust me, no one. Um. You know, I've been

980
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: on Zack Wilson since for a while, um and saying

981
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: he's he was the number two guy this year. But

982
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: he's the number two guy. He's not he's not pushing

983
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: for one. It's just people are kind of running out

984
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: of things to talk about when we talk about that. So, um,

985
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: you know this, Uh with Justin Fields, Trey Lance, mac Jones,

986
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: do any of those three really get the Cowboys excited

987
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: at all? And I mean I still have a hard

988
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: time envisioning this roster without Dak Dak Prescott, But you

989
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: know they gotta do their due diligence and figure these

990
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks out. Jeff. I mean, I think if they get

991
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: two the draft and they haven't done a long term

992
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: deal with Dak Prescott, how do I say it without

993
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: name calling? If you don't consider or pick a quarterback,

994
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're doing, because like the

995
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: only way you're doing that is I don't know how

996
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: you're assuming that, well, we're going to get a deal

997
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: done because he's come so far in the process towards

998
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: free agency that he's on the doorstep to it. So

999
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: if you don't have something done by the time you

1000
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: draft and you don't figure out who's going to be

1001
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: your next quarterback, don't it would what would it be

1002
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: just blind ego that Jerry and or Steven would be like, Hey,

1003
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: don't worry, he won't leave us. He doesn't want to.

1004
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how you couldn't be in panic mode

1005
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: if Deck's not signed by the draft, because he's like,

1006
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: you're not tagging a guy for what is it fifty

1007
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: two or fifty four million dollars or whatever a year

1008
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: from now, and you're just going to trust that a

1009
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: quarterba Kittting free agency in his prime is gonna take

1010
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: whatever you offer him instead of whatever unrestricted free agency

1011
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: offers him, which will probably be some sort of NFL record.

1012
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I think it's negligence if you don't pick a quarterback

1013
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: at ten, if you don't have a long term deal

1014
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: done with Dad Kathy, I would agree a quick housekeeping.

1015
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: That's a first round pick for the Eagles. If Carson

1016
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Wentz plays seventy five percent of his snaps next year,

1017
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: that twenty two pick would become a first round pick

1018
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Or if the Colts make the playoffs

1019
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: and he plays seventy percent of his snaps, So it's

1020
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: basically all about his health. Yeah. Yeah, for me, I mean, look,

1021
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: you're you gotta get a deal done with Dak and

1022
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: that's that's that's it. There's the end of story, because

1023
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: if you don't get that done, that's negligence. Before whatever

1024
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: happens at the draft. Get it done. It's that simple.

1025
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: But I actually got to make sure he's healthy and

1026
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So Jeff Kelly, what I feel about that? Sure? Now,

1027
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of talking about some of these mid round prospects, Dane,

1028
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: tell me about Davis Mills because you kind of named

1029
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: him in order. We'll go through it one more time.

1030
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is number one, Zach Wilson by US, number two.

1031
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: Number three is Justin Fields out of Ohio State. Number

1032
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: four Trey Lance North Dakota State, who we've talked about already.

1033
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is the fifth quarterback, and then at six

1034
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: is Davis Mills out of Stanford six foot four, two

1035
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounds. Tell me about what Davis

1036
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: Mills brings to the table and why he's above guys

1037
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: like a knee in Book and a Kyle Trask and

1038
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: a Kellen Want. He's really really interesting as a former

1039
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: five star guy who just couldn't stay on the field

1040
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: due to injuries. And so I think the health of

1041
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: his left knee is going to be really important just

1042
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: to you know, make sure that he can stay on

1043
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: the field and be healthy. But when he's out there.

1044
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: He looks really really really intriguing. You know, you've got

1045
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: a guy that can throw a touch and anticipation. He

1046
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: can throw at all three levels. He's got a big,

1047
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: loose body type. You know, it almost brings back just

1048
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: just the way he not not comparing them as players,

1049
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: but just the way he moves and that stand for

1050
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: uniform you see Andrew luck Out, there were just the movements. Uh,

1051
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, because he's big and he's loose. Uh.

1052
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: And so I think he throws to the middle of

1053
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: the field really well, maybe the best middle of the

1054
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: field thrower in this draft. Um. And so I think

1055
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot that's going for him. It's just can

1056
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: he stay on the field. And he needs time to develop.

1057
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: He's still figuring out the throws that he should and

1058
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't make. Um. So there's some development needed there. But

1059
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 1: if I am looking for that developmental quarterback in the third, fourth,

1060
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: fifth round, uh, this is the guy. This is one

1061
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: of the few quarterbacks in this class that I think

1062
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: has future starting potential. Where you know, Kyle Trask good quarterback,

1063
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: but to me, he's a queer backup. Uh. You know,

1064
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: Ian Book, I like him, but he's backup material. Mills

1065
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: is the one guy outside the first two rounds that

1066
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: I think could maybe actually become an NFL starter if

1067
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: he develops in some you know, certain areas. Anything about

1068
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, No, I haven't launched him because I hate quarterbacks.

1069
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: I agree with are there quarterback to you know what,

1070
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: like what we talked about if you know the Cowboys

1071
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: in the quarterback situation, if you don't get your guy

1072
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: at ten, this isn't one of those drafts where you know,

1073
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: maybe you take a flyer on a quarterback and you know,

1074
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: there's not many options in terms of developmental guys if

1075
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: you're looking for you know, if you if you're trying

1076
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: to find a quarterback in this draft, he's going to

1077
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: you know, start games for you down the road. You

1078
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: got to take him at ten. This draft class just

1079
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of developmental options that you feel

1080
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: strongly about, uh, you know that could be potential starters.

1081
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about because the Cowboys will have

1082
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: to do that. Have you guys watched in terms of

1083
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: Katie and Jeff, have you watched the top six quarterbacks

1084
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: or top five quarterbacks at all? Or are you still

1085
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: not even to that point, yet, are you into panic

1086
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: slash preparation mode for dak Prescott and not being available.

1087
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: Not great question, Kyle. I've watched one hundred and thirteen

1088
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: defensive prospects. I've watched seven offensive prospects, so I hey,

1089
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: all offensive tackles one, two, three of them are Yeah.

1090
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: I've watched these quarterbacks play live. That's where I am

1091
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: with these quarterbacks. That's my form of silent protest to

1092
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: try to get this Dack deal done. Okay, I've watched

1093
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: the top five quarterbacks and I have them the same

1094
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: order as Dan does, except I would flip well, I

1095
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: don't have him close to the same order as Dan does.

1096
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: It's Trevor Lawrence. My second one is Trey Lance, then

1097
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, then Justin Fields, and Jeff thought I something

1098
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: to be in one night. Boy. We are really disrespecting

1099
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, and I can't wait for him to be

1100
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: really good in the NFL. All right, well him, Yeah,

1101
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: because Kat is throwing in a dude who hands the

1102
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: ball off twice for every time that he throws that

1103
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: played at North Dakota State over an Ohio State monster

1104
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: who lived up to everything he was supposed to be

1105
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 1: in college as one of the highest recruits of all time.

1106
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has been nothing but be a stud And

1107
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: now we're just gonna throw in Mitch Trubisky in front

1108
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: of him, and we're just gonna throw in anybody we

1109
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: can find we like their traits. Man, people people get

1110
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: so upset when Justin Fields isn't the number two quarterback,

1111
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: number three quarterback, And I don't get it, Like he's good,

1112
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: but you know, so is Trey Lance, so is Zach Wilson.

1113
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, I I don't. I don't know why

1114
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: we're disrespecting Justin Fields just because he's he's not a

1115
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: top two quarterback in this class. He's really good. There's

1116
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: a lot of things to like about Justin Fields, but

1117
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks too there. I mean,

1118
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough position to evaluate, obviously, there's

1119
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: so many variables. And with Fields when you really study

1120
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: a state, watch the Northwestern game, and you really start like,

1121
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: why is he make Why is he making that throw?

1122
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: Why is he you know, locked onto this read he

1123
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: won't even look at other guys. I mean, there are

1124
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: just so many things that make you go crazy when

1125
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: you watch him. That you know, it's it's you know,

1126
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: it's easy to like him, but there's also reasons why.

1127
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: There's there's there's question marks there, there's concerned there, and

1128
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: so it's it's a really interesting group of quarterbacks that

1129
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: everyone's got different orders. Watching Nebraska game too, say it's same,

1130
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: same type of field with the Northwestern game. There's a

1131
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: play he should have gone to Southern Alabama had a

1132
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: good year, and he'd be QB two for you. I got.

1133
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: We got a guy running wide open in the back

1134
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: of the ends of the Nebraska game and Justin Fields

1135
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: is looking at the ground and there's wide receiver's freaking

1136
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: out on him, like all of Kirk Cousins wide receivers do.

1137
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Like like I like Justin Fields fine. I think a

1138
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of people watched him play against Clemson live and

1139
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: think he's God, and it's that's just not the case.

1140
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Like he's fine, he's good. Look and I get the

1141
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. I understand being skeptical. I was gonna bring

1142
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: this up though, Jeff. Jeff and I went and had

1143
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: some cold miller relaxed the other night at the bar,

1144
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: because we've been known to do that. We're double masking

1145
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Of course good and Jeff was like,

1146
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: Jeff throughout the whole mac Jones thing, He's like, with

1147
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: this offense, mac Jones kind of just distribute the ball.

1148
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't that's an opinion you want to bring to

1149
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: the draft show, Jeff, And I know you're not talking

1150
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: about taking him at ten, but you had a good point,

1151
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: like if you treat just imagine that the Cowboys wide

1152
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: receivers at the Alabama wide receivers and you can just

1153
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: be a point guard and distribute. I thought, I thought

1154
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: your point was fine. I thought, I'm just trying to

1155
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: stir you guys up and get you guys fired up

1156
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: on a Thursday, because I haven't even studied the guys.

1157
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: I've just watched him all live. But mac Jones can

1158
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: read a football field and delivered accurate ball with a

1159
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: chance for yak. That sounds pretty good in Dallas. He's

1160
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: another guy it's easy to like because, yeah, he's accurate,

1161
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: he can anticipate. It's just you have to be okay

1162
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: with an very average athlete who has a very average

1163
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: arm when things aren't right on time. So you know,

1164
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: if he's in the right offense, Yeah, I mean he

1165
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: can be a winner in this league. It's it's it's

1166
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: a fascinating group of quarterbacks that I'll bring something different

1167
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: to the table. One of my favorite parts of the

1168
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Draft show is getting Dane Brugler a little bit riled

1169
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: up on one of the rankings. Back and forth between

1170
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Trey Lance and Jeff did a specially

1171
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: especially by someone who hasn't even studied them. Oh, it's

1172
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: even better. It makes it even better. I live in Ohio,

1173
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: so trust me, Ohio State fans, I'm not happy with

1174
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: me when they've not been happy with me for months

1175
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: after I put Zach Wilson at number two back in

1176
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: the fall. So it's I've just I've received a lot

1177
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: of it over the past few months. Now. I've got

1178
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: a mental image of Dane going to the grocery store

1179
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: and having dirty looks from draft fans across the aisle

1180
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 1: as they wear Ohio State Buckeye gear. I think that's

1181
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: something that would definitely happen. Go read Dane's top ten

1182
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. It's on

1183
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: the athletic great work as always, Dane, and can't wait

1184
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: to go through some of these different positions along the way,

1185
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: But that's going to do it for us here on

1186
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lighte. Everybody, continue to

1187
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: stay safe out there, will continue to fall out and

1188
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday for the Draft Show and have

1189
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with these guys, maybe even have

1190
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: a double show on Tuesday. We'll see how that things

1191
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: turn out and how that ends up shaking. But that's

1192
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us, for Chris Beam in the back,

1193
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: for our friend Katie Turner, for Dave Brugler, and for

1194
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 1: Jeff kavanaughm Kyle Yeoman's that's gonna do it for us.

1195
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week here on the Draft Show.

1196
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,880
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01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,000
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