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Speaker 1: So let's just go ahead and get it started. Let's

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Speaker 1: the band aid off. Jacob de Gram is out and

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Speaker 1: it's devastating.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like we teased it or felt something like

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Speaker 3: it's a massive blow to the Mets. Team talent wise,

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be different now that Max Schre's is

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Speaker 2: But there's just no way the sugarcoat how awful this is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's no way he misses opening day

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Speaker 1: My guy was like, my hamstring is a little sore.

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Speaker 3: With him because there's so much more now resting on

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Speaker 1: Especially with this de Gram injury news and I saw

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon McCarthy, I will tend to believe him because

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Speaker 3: But there's just this idea that like the Gram had

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Speaker 3: it makes it a little scary, and it just you

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Speaker 3: April twenty seventh, I think it will be when when

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Speaker 3: then and that we can get healthy Jacob de Gram

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Speaker 1: I wonder what this does for the teams, like morale

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Speaker 1: not that it's super super important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like they have to be kind of

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Speaker 1: a little bit, like if you're a player. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's like a worry around the locker room

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Speaker 3: There's definitely just a different vibe between having Jacob de

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Speaker 3: kind of heard that a little bit that Trevor may

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Speaker 3: next to you, and like just that being around, you're

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Speaker 3: to put an actual tangible number on what that impact

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Speaker 1: And what do you go four and a third today?

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Speaker 3: second half. And he is a reliever who is good

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Speaker 3: and he's stable and he's steady. His stuff's not gonna

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Speaker 3: blow you away, but it's also not bad and he's

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Speaker 3: not really gonna issue many free passes like look, we

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Speaker 3: saw Castro do, but then you give away a guy

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Speaker 3: like Castro who throws one hundred miles an hour with

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Speaker 3: the white bat.

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Speaker 2: Sly there.

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Speaker 3: But this Mets bullpen got to a point with Adam Otavino,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Smith, m Miguel Castro where you kind of had

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Speaker 3: three right handed pitchers who all did similar things in

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Speaker 3: a way. I think that's kind of how the Mets

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Speaker 3: brass saw their bullpen, and I think they just got

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Speaker 3: themselves a stable lefty, which they needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Shreve was currently our lefty in the bullpen

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Speaker 1: right now. And as much as I like Jason Treeve,

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Speaker 1: he's actually looking really good in the spring and he

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Speaker 1: made he made the team officially. Yeah, he made the

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Speaker 1: team officially. He looked great with the Mets a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago when he was our lefty as well,

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Speaker 1: Like I like Jason Shreve, but he shouldn't be our

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Speaker 1: main lefty to get out like Juan Soto and Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 1: By any means that that makes me a little bit

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Speaker 1: nervous at times, just because I know of how chas

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Speaker 1: and Streeve has been in the past. But he looks

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Speaker 1: good pairing him up with Joeli along with the Mets

462
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Speaker 1: have a really, really good bullpen. I think that's something

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Speaker 1: that doesn't get talked about enough, is that this bullpen's

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Speaker 1: really strong, like at top to bottom, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the better ones in baseball. I think the.

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Speaker 2: Bullpen's complete lights out.

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Speaker 3: The Mets are like six relievers deep right now, guys

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Speaker 3: who can get a tough out, Guys who have stuffed.

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Speaker 2: You'd be like, holy shit, that's really good stuff.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that we still have this three head

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Speaker 3: monster in the back of Diaz, Lugo and May No

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Speaker 3: one's really talking about that is again, like you said,

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Speaker 3: one of the better back end trios that exists in

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Speaker 3: all Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: And Joelle is going to be a good piece of it.

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Speaker 3: He's not probably not gonna woin anyone You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: turn any heads. He's gonna get a lot of ground balls,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get a lot of weak fly balls, and

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Speaker 3: you're going to really appreciate this trade happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the other trade that was going around

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Speaker 1: in Mets Twitter was the oh my God, like the

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Speaker 1: SpongeBob meme of everything is on fire, when the Mets

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Speaker 1: were rumored to be trading Dom Smith for not only

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Speaker 1: just Eric Cosmer, but Chris Paddock, two notorious Mets villains,

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Speaker 1: along with Emelia Pagan with the Padres craziness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like that, that twelve hour stretch of when there was

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Speaker 1: a real possibility that this tree was gonna happen, Twitter

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Speaker 1: was on fire.

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Speaker 3: This was a hilariously hot non trade that included four

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Speaker 3: players who are objectively like not great, and none of

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Speaker 3: you can even like guarantee project to be great. I

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Speaker 3: know Mets fans love Dom. We've been hot and cold

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Speaker 3: on Dom in this show. He looks great in the

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Speaker 3: spring another home run today ops is over fourteen hundred.

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Speaker 3: But I by the time this trade was like at

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Speaker 3: its precipice, I'd almost talked myself into it just because like,

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Speaker 3: Dom isn't gonna. He's not guaranteed for reps in this

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Speaker 3: team anyway. He has to hit his way into the job.

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Speaker 3: Chris Paddock. While Mets fans hate his gus and he's

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Speaker 3: looked really bad in the past, he still throws mid

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Speaker 3: to upper nineties with a plus change up in really

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Speaker 3: good command. A million pegan Is is two years removed

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Speaker 3: from being like one of the better relievers in all

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Speaker 3: of baseball. And both of those guys come for Padre's

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Speaker 3: team that is objectively moronic with pitching development at the

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Speaker 3: minor league. In the major league level, yeah, they have

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Speaker 3: Larry ross Child who just killed pitcher's careers out in

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Speaker 3: the Bronx. So anytime that guy's around pitching, you should

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Speaker 3: run the other way as fast as you can.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: And then the Padres are gonna pay most of Eric

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Speaker 3: Osma's contracts, so it's gonna become a four year, twenty

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Speaker 3: five million dollar deal, which I mean, I don't I

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Speaker 3: don't want Eric Osmer this team. But Eric hosm is

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Speaker 3: making six million dollars a year. There's worse things in

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Speaker 3: your backup first base and making six million dollars. I

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Speaker 3: told you, and I tweeted it like if this trade

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Speaker 3: were to have gone down, the Mets fans would have

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Speaker 3: had to just pretend Eric Osmer was James Loney. If

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Speaker 3: he's James Loney, a ground ball hitting, defensive first backup,

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Speaker 3: first basement, this would have sounded fine. Okay, we got

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Speaker 3: a young pitcher, we'd promise, we got a reliever whos

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Speaker 3: good is gonna slide to the back of the ballpen,

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Speaker 3: and we got James Loan he to be back up

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Speaker 3: for his basement.

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Speaker 2: That's great work. But it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It was Eric Osmer, and I hate his stupid fucking face,

528
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Speaker 3: just like all you other Mets fans out there, but

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Speaker 3: luckily we don't have to deal with it. But I

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Speaker 3: think the thing that ended up breaking this trade down

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Speaker 3: fully and the reason that the Mets didn't make it,

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Speaker 3: is because I don't know how much they thought Chris

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Speaker 3: Paddock could have helped this rotation this year.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like that was twenty four hours outside.

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Speaker 3: Of the gram news and they were they wanted to

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Speaker 3: see if they can get a picture that day for

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Speaker 3: or even that weekend, just for a player on the roster,

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Speaker 3: And doesn't it seems like Paddick didn't exactly quench that thirst,

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Speaker 3: and then maybe they didn't have enough to get Sean

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Speaker 3: Maya from the Angels who eventually went to the Padres

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Speaker 3: or the A's got the A's.

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Speaker 1: That whole new cycle was like the perfect storm of

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Speaker 1: a player that's loved by Mets fans being Dom Smith,

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Speaker 1: who's having a great spring. So everyone's really over the

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Speaker 1: moon with how Domson was playing. We're excited to, like

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Speaker 1: you said, he's looking really good playing mat dhlt'll see

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Speaker 1: it opening day. I'm down to have Dom get those

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Speaker 1: at bats. So you have that, and then you have

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Speaker 1: the Mets villains of Chris Paddock, who we know the

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Speaker 1: whole Pee Alonzo scenario where he just randomly started a

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Speaker 1: fight with Pete Alonzo and then got absolutely destroyed the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, and oh, Pete's really good, and

553
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Speaker 1: Chris Padicks thinks, oh no, Eric Hosmer the World Series thing.

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Speaker 1: He stinks he's getting paid all the money in the world.

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Speaker 1: And then Emilio Pagan, which I'm sure most people are like, ah, whatever,

556
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Speaker 1: Amelio Pagan, who cares so like deep baseball fans know

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Speaker 1: he's good, but at the end of the day, he

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Speaker 1: was probably more of a throw in in terms of

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Speaker 1: the narrative that was going on. But like you said,

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Speaker 1: if you thought of Eric Cosmer as just James Loney

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Speaker 1: or even like Adrian Gonzalez, right like you, probably it's

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Speaker 1: probably fine. It was just a perfect storm of names,

563
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Speaker 1: plus the overreaction of Jacob deGrom being out, plus the

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Speaker 1: Max schures or hamstring news. It was just like negative, negative, negative,

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Speaker 1: negative on Mets Twitter. So I'm glad that you were

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Speaker 1: able to spin it positive because I was at the

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Speaker 1: airport that day. I was traveling and I was ready

568
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Speaker 1: to just not ever get on my next flight and

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Speaker 1: just hang out in the airport for eternity. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, we're getting Eric Cosmer. This dude's so washed,

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Speaker 1: Like what are we doing. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen, though, so it's really a non issue.

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Speaker 1: But I'm okay with it not happening, Like I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to see what Dom's got this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been okay with it happening. Okay

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Speaker 2: with it not happening.

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Speaker 3: I think there is a chance that Dom Smith kind

578
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Speaker 3: of figured something back out and now he's fully healthy

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Speaker 3: and he can be the leader in the clubhouse to

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Speaker 3: be the Mets DH against right handed pitchers, which is

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Speaker 3: a massive, massive role in.

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Speaker 2: Any baseball team. But there's just I don't know, there

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Speaker 2: was something.

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Speaker 3: Weird about that trade leaguing that day. It doesn't make

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Speaker 3: me think that it's impossible Dom Smith does get traded. Still,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it seems like there was a lot

587
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Speaker 3: of smoke around that trade for players on who seems

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Speaker 3: like both teams would like to get rid of, between

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Speaker 3: both Paddock and Osmer and Dom Smith. Not that the

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Speaker 3: Mets would like to get rid of Dom Smith, but

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Speaker 3: I think they realized that he could be extraneous or

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Speaker 3: redundant to the rest of this roster, which we've talked

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Speaker 3: about again a ton this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna go ahead and give too many details,

595
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Speaker 1: but I heard from a little birdie in the tree

596
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Speaker 1: that a lot of front officers were believing that these

597
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Speaker 1: were intentional leaks, that the trades weren't just gonna ever happen,

598
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Speaker 1: just to try and see exactly how much they could

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Speaker 1: boost the stocks of Dom on the Mets side and

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Speaker 1: Eric Hosmer slash Chris Paddock on the Padres side, Which

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Speaker 1: I mean you probably saw that too. With the A's

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Speaker 1: Like you said they got Sean and Iya from the A's.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they were like, maybe we could give you Paddock.

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Speaker 1: Can we can get trum and Iah? Like are you

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Speaker 1: interested in that?

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Speaker 2: kN We're dropping birth these now.

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Speaker 3: But I also have the birthe tell me that there

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Speaker 3: were some questions around Chris Paddock's elbow, that there was

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Speaker 3: a chance that he again could not be someone who

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Speaker 3: contributed a lot this season. I think the Mets are

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Speaker 3: very concerned. The Mets don't want a project in Chris Paddock.

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Speaker 3: The Mets don't want developed Chris Paddock for the next

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Speaker 3: three years and possibly play an arbitration season for him

614
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Speaker 3: recovering from a second time in john surgery. The Mets

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Speaker 3: one guy was gonna give them one hundred four the

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Speaker 3: innings this season, and seems like if Paddock was that guy,

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Speaker 3: there could have been a chance this happened. But him

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Speaker 3: not being it basically acts the whole deal because it

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Speaker 3: was for this was the deal for Chris Paddock.

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Speaker 2: When do you really look at it?

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Speaker 1: Nuts and Baltimore, Yeah, and I think another spin zone here.

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Speaker 1: Positive note, The Mets are looking to make moves. The

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Speaker 1: Mets are not done. The Mets are trying to get better.

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Speaker 1: Billy Eppler in the front office is trying to find

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Speaker 1: more pitching, which we will never say is a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: You can never have too much pitching. Look at the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Every year they have thirteen starting pitchers that are gonna

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Speaker 1: pitch and they'll all be great. Like, oh, would hate

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Speaker 1: to be the Dodgers. That would suck.

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Speaker 3: Imagine having Mitch White is your eighth starting pitcher, a

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Speaker 3: guy who's objectively just good. He was good last year

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Speaker 3: and he doesn't even have close to a role god.

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Speaker 1: So good, so good. But that's pretty much our trade

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Speaker 1: talk here because that was was really the talk around Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead him before we get into our season previewel, So,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about a little bit about sports betting. Of

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Speaker 1: course legal in New York, now legal in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Connecticut Tri state area. You can

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Speaker 1: find bets, you can drop some some wagers if you

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Speaker 1: would like. And me and James have three picks each

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Speaker 1: that we like that are specific to the Mets. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go through them real quick in case you

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Speaker 1: guys have you know, some extra change line around and

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Speaker 1: you want to try and make some quick money. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you could follow us and see how you do and

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Speaker 1: see if you win something, because I think these are

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Speaker 1: There's definitely one bet that me and James agree on

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Speaker 1: for sure, and then the other ones they're a little

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Speaker 1: more fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a big one that Mark and I

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Speaker 3: agree on, and that one is Chris Bassett over ten

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Speaker 3: and a half wins. Basically, as long as Chris Bassett

653
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Speaker 3: pitches this season, he will win over ten and a

654
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: half games. He's gonna have a great time pitching in

655
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Speaker 3: the wonderfully spacious confines of City Field. He's gonna be

656
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: dropping curve balls left and right. The Mets offense is

657
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: gonna score plenty of runs for him to win baseball games.

658
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: And Chris Bassett will win over ten and a half games.

659
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: Put a lock on it.

660
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Speaker 1: He won twelve last year and one hundred and fifty

661
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: seven innings with the A's. Who I don't think is

662
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: offense or even necessarily like team wise, or defense will

663
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: be as good as the Mets are right now. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 1: or defense, like Chris Bassett is a good pitcher. Chris

665
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Bassett's gonna be really good. He is going to be,

666
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: like we said, our new Stroman. He's filling that exact

667
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: same role. He's gonna be reliant. He's gonna be reliable.

668
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: You're be able to go out there every five days

669
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: and get five, six, seven innings out of this guy.

670
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: And I like the way that he's looked in spring.

671
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: I know the Marlins roughed him up a little bit

672
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: the other day, whatever it was, but he was working

673
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: on some stuff. Let me tell you, I love his curveball.

674
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: His curveball's fun to watch.

675
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 3: There's no better spring training line than working on some stuff.

676
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: When someone does well in spring tranding, you're like, this

677
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: guy's great, he figure something out. Whenever he guy's is bad. No,

678
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: he's working on some stuff. He's just working on some

679
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: stuff because he got a new grip, new pitch mix, easy.

680
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: Working on some things, working on some things. So yes,

681
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the Chris Bassett over ten and a half wins, were

682
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: hammering that one. Like it a lot. I'll go with

683
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: my second bet here that I like, and it's gonna

684
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Speaker 1: be about our boy, Francisco Lindor. Right now, he's gotten

685
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: over under of twenty eight and a half home runs

686
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: and the exit vilas he's been putting out all spring

687
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: leave me to the belief that as long as Francisco

688
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: Lindor is healthy, this is the dude's gonna hit thirty

689
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: home runs. We've seen him do it before in the

690
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: past in his career, and I think he's gonna finally

691
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: well I shouldn't say finally because it's been one season,

692
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna be able to actually be

693
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: comfortable in New York this year, breakthrough hit that thirty

694
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: home run threshold and have a really monster season from him.

695
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: He's looked so good this spring. He looks a lot

696
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: more comfortable. He looks like he's finally, like, I don't know,

697
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: just ready to be a met Like last year he

698
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: had that big contract over his head. I think this team,

699
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: the guy's around him. I think Lindor's comfortable and he's

700
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Speaker 1: gonna have a monster year.

701
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop a Lindor bet on you two. I

702
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: like the twenty and a half home runs. While I

703
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: do like that bet, especially seeing Lindor's exit of Lasses

704
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 3: the spring, just city Field being so big scares me

705
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: a little bit. With home runs, especially a guy like

706
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Glendor who has never been the quintessential power hitther. He's

707
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: always been a good power hitter, but he's never been

708
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: like real home run guys. So I like Francisco Lindor

709
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: over one hundred and forty one and a half hits

710
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: this season. When Francisco Lindor was in Cleveland, he was

711
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: consistently getting between one hundred and seventy and one hundred

712
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: and eighty five hits every single season, clearly blowing that

713
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty one number out of water. And

714
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: now he's not exactly the two ninety three hundred hither

715
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 3: he was then, but just hitting the ball as hard

716
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: as he does and making as much contact as does

717
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: the guy does not strike out more than twenty percent

718
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: of the time, he feels like a guy who's definitely

719
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 3: gonna have more than one hundred and forty one hits.

720
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: And even if you look at the projection.

721
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Speaker 3: Systems on fangrass zips has him for one to fifty three,

722
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: the bat has him for one forty six. A to

723
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: see for one forty five, I've steamer for one forty nine.

724
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: These are all pretty clear away from the one hundred

725
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: and forty one and a half number that we see here,

726
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: and even last year playing one hundred twenty five games

727
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: and being objectively bad for two thirds of them.

728
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and four hits.

729
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: That's not very far off from where he could be

730
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: if that number if he played the full season this year,

731
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: and that was again two thirty hitter and a hundred

732
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: twenty five games, so one hundred five hits. I love

733
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: this one hundred and forty one number for Francisco Lidork

734
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Speaker 3: go over.

735
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: It's important to note too that he's at the top

736
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: of the lineup, so he's gonna be up there for

737
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: the most at bats as well for the bets all

738
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: year long, so I like that that over on the

739
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: hits as well. I'm gonna go a little crazy with

740
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: this last one here this on This one's if you're

741
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: trying to have a little fun, trying to really hit

742
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: it big. I've got an MVP bet for you. I

743
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: know we just talked about Francisco Indor. I'm not picking him.

744
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Pete Alonzo. I like his value

745
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more plus three thousand to win the MVP,

746
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: and in this lineup, with how many guys are gonna

747
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: be able to get on base and the fact that

748
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna have so much more protection around him than

749
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: I feel like he has in the past. Feels like

750
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Pete's ready to pop off, maybe a little bit closer

751
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: to that twenty nineteen year than we've seen the last few.

752
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I got Pete Alonzo to win the MVP at plus

753
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: three thousand. I love that one. Is it a lock?

754
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I know means this is the riskiest bet of them all.

755
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: Anytime you make an MVP bet, you're really betting on

756
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: people's health at the end of the day. Sometimes, but

757
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: Peter Alonso MVP. I like it plus three thousand. Let's

758
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: have some fun.

759
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that bet too. We've talked about this before.

760
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: Secretly became one of the best hitters in baseball. Last

761
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: Season's strike out rate was lesson the league average. His

762
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: barret rates near the top of the league's exit of

763
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: last season, near the top of the league. If the

764
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: Mets had a competent lineup last year, he would have

765
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: had a clear hundred runs one hundred RBIs easily and

766
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: these numbers were far below that just because there were

767
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: not the many Mets on base last year. I think

768
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: this year, hitting consistently behind Randon Demo, Starling Marte and

769
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: Francisco Lindora is gonna be a lot of opportunities Pilanzo

770
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: driving those runs, which takes me to my third bet,

771
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: also about Peter Alonzo, and it's Peter Alonzo to lead

772
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: the major leagues and RBIs at plus sixteen hundred sixteen

773
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: to one, and again seeing Peter Alonso in that four

774
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: hold makes me believe that there are going to be

775
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot, a lot of opportunities for him

776
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: to drive guys in. If it was me, I probably

777
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: would have hit p Loonso second or third, just again,

778
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: as many at bats as year as they possibly could.

779
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: But he's gonna be hitting behind three guys who's on

780
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: base percentages should be sniffing the three fifty range.

781
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: If all things well, and.

782
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: With those ducks, and then say, as hard as Pilonzo

783
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: hits the ball as well as he stayed healthy through

784
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: the course of his career, I think that there's a

785
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: really good chance that Pee Alonzo gets even up to

786
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: that one ten, one hundred fifteen RBI range, and there's

787
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: a chance that does lead.

788
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: The league, which, man, that'd be great if all. Let

789
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: me tell you, if all these things do come true.

790
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: I know we were worried about de Grom and everything.

791
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: But the Mets are gonna be looking really good. At

792
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: p Alonso wins, the MVP, Lindor hits thirty home runs,

793
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: best wins over great, I think the Mets will be

794
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Mets will be looking pretty good at this point. You know,

795
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: at the end of the season if this stuff all

796
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: comes true.

797
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: Imagine the spin we've turned in a half of an

798
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: hour to go from those terrible cant Sure codes to

799
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: grom injury.

800
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, Pilonzo v seven Line fans, Welcome to

801
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: the Mets of the podcast. That's what we do. We

802
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: start off negative. It's a roller coaster. We are all

803
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: over the place. You'll see it throughout the season, and

804
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be able to talk about the

805
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: season stuff too coming up here as we have series

806
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: and stuff. But man, it's exciting. We get ups and downs.

807
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: You guys have been Mets fans forever. You know the

808
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: ups and downs of being a Met fan in it.

809
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like it's really gonna stop anytime soon.

810
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: Now, this might be one of our most chaotic seasons

811
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 3: yet and again, happy that we're actually going to have

812
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: a season. We're previewing a baseball season right now.

813
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Fucking beautiful.

814
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it, let's talk about it. So, of course,

815
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: the Mets team lots of additions this offseason. You know

816
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: the names, Starling Marte, Mark Canna, Max Scherzer. I'm missing

817
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: a couple of other ones here, Chris Bassett. I forgot

818
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: his name real quick as we were talking about it.

819
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: Those are the big names, those are the headliners right there,

820
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: and that is a really good place to start, because

821
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: I do think that this Mets team is better than

822
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: the team that we saw prior years, like top to bottom,

823
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: This lineup stronger, the rotation stronger, the bullpen stronger. On paper,

824
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: They're in a really good place to compete right now.

825
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think Met fans don't believe that. I

826
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: think that de gram new injury news makes people a

827
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: little more scared. But still this team is one of

828
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: the best teams in the National League. Even if de

829
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Grom's hurt. They're not the top of the top, They're

830
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: still up there.

831
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: In that conversation, no, definitely, But I do think the

832
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: meat of this Mets season, where the real competition is

833
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: going to be is within this National League East. I

834
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: think the Braves are very good team. I think the

835
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: Phillies are a pretty good team. I think the Marlins

836
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: are not the bad team. I think the Nationals have

837
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: won so though. So just based on you're going to

838
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: be playing tough games against all four other teams in

839
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: your division, and that is going to be the real

840
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: test for this Mets. Especially how many games I have

841
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: against the Phillies early in the season and can Playtilly

842
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: six times.

843
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: In April five. I'm not mistaken there.

844
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: That's gonna be monu mentally important to how this season

845
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: winds up. Whether the Mets go five and one, four

846
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: and two, three and three, two and four, one five

847
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: in those six early games against the Phillies.

848
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I didn't even think about that. That's a

849
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: good point. We also do start off against the Nationals

850
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and we get the Diamondbacks sprinkled in there, so there's

851
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: definitely a little bit of easier games sprinkled inside of

852
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: all this where we can make up some ground if

853
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: there was any issues. But like you said, it feels

854
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: like we say this every year. We have to beat

855
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: the teams in the division, and that's something I feel

856
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: like the Mets have struggled with at times. We haven't

857
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: been able to get over the hump of the Braves.

858
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: We've struggled at times with the Phillies. Even the Marlins

859
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: have been annoying in the past, or the Nationals. If

860
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: the Mets want to win this National League East and

861
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: be one of those premier teams, you have to beat

862
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: up on your division, and it's going to be tougher.

863
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Every team in this division outside the Nationals got better

864
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: on paper. The Phillies are better offensively. Pitching wise still

865
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of a question mark, but they are

866
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: better offensively. There're gonna be some slogs where they score

867
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: fifteen runs against us and we just get absolutely housed.

868
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: But we also know it's gonna be the opposite where

869
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: they can't get a single out because their bullpen's horrible

870
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: and they can't make a play in the field. It'll

871
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: be even back and forth. The Braves adding Mattles and

872
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: ken Lee Jans and Colin mchw like that team got better,

873
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: which is crazy to say when you lose Freddy Freeman

874
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and the Marlins. The Marlins are the team that scares

875
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: me a little bit in this division that is gonna

876
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: a little quiet because they improved massively and they have

877
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: a great young pitching staff, and they even made some

878
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: moves the other day to make some trades for some

879
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: bullpen arms from the Orioles, guys that we both liked,

880
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: and Tanner Scott and Cole Salcer. So this is a

881
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: team that is going to be competitive. They are not

882
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the laid down, walk all over the Marlins

883
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: that we see in the past. They're gonna be competing

884
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: for like this middle of the pack here in the

885
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: National League East, and there are a few moves away

886
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: from being kind of scary. I'm not gonna lie.

887
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something incredible about the Mets schedule

888
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: right now?

889
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

890
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Hit me.

891
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: I want you to guess what day we play our

892
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: first game against the Marlins.

893
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually think I know this. I think I

894
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: got a little inside information from our boy, Ernesto sub Tape,

895
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: the biggest Jonathon VR fan and all of baseball. I

896
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: think it's like June, right.

897
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: The Mets don't play the Marlins until June seventeenth. By

898
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: the time the Mets played the Marlins for the first

899
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: time a Friday at four o'clock Friday game.

900
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: At City Field, we should go to that. That's gonna

901
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: be awesome.

902
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: Friday, June seventisen will be electric, but they will have

903
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: already played the Phillies thirteen times this season.

904
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: By the time we play the Marlins once.

905
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Who's making these schedules?

906
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: The Mets played the Phillies thirteen times before May is over,

907
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna know almost everything we need to know about

908
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: the Mets standing in the National League East. By the

909
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 3: time June first rolls around, We've played the Phillies thirteen

910
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: times already.

911
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: Well, you play a team eighteen nineteen times in this season,

912
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: right like eighteen?

913
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

914
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna play them that much? Yeah, I mean, the

915
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: Marlins are not gonna be a pushover. They're going to

916
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: be good. That rotation is loaded, and they added bats obviously,

917
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Garcio Jorge silare so like. While I do think the

918
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Mets are one of the top two teams in this division, still,

919
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I think even with the Dagrom injury, I still think

920
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: they're better than the Phillies and the Marlins, and by

921
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good margin. But it makes them closer. God

922
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: beat the Braves. The Braves are the Braves of the

923
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: World Series Champions for a reason, and I don't feel

924
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be a hangover team. Got an old

925
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: school manager and Brian Snicker he's not letting that happen.

926
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: And Akunya is gonna come back at some point too,

927
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: like they won the World Series out Ronald Acunya. That's

928
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: that's messed up.

929
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: You're not catching my vibe.

930
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: I continue to bring this conversation back to the Phillies

931
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: because I think without Jacob b Groum, the Mets and

932
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: the Phillies there's basically a razor's edge in between them.

933
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: If not the Phillies have a bit of an advantage,

934
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: but the way they're starting pitcher could line up, but

935
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: the season starting Zaq Whillerd being healthy, it is going

936
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: to be an absolute dogfight playing against this team and

937
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: that starting rotation and that freaking lineup thirteen times before

938
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 3: June first, and I am not I'm not scared about it,

939
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: but I'm very much looking forward to how we stack

940
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: up against them and how how those games are played,

941
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: because these are very different baseball teams, the Mets and

942
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: the Phillies. They're playing in very different ballparks, they have

943
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: very different team construction strategies here. But the big, the

944
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: big defining factor is gonna start the year with these

945
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: two teams. The fact that they have Zacq Wheeler healthy

946
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: right now, they have Aaronola healthy right now. Ranger Suarez

947
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: is a guy who I think he's probably really good.

948
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: He might take a step back, he might take a

949
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: step forward. Kyle Gibson is gonna eat a ton of inix.

950
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna probably pitch much better into the field than

951
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: he ever will this year as Citizens Bank Park. But

952
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: there there's a lot going for that team early and

953
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: they're they're kind of team with that lineup and two

954
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: horses where if they do hit the ground running, I'm

955
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: a little bit worried about them getting hot. They just

956
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: they have so many things that can be hot.

957
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: They're going again.

958
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: You're right, they're gonna blow a game because de Deer

959
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: Gorory is gonna clag a ball off his wrist in

960
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: the seventh inning. Let four runs score of a Yari's familiar, hard,

961
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: sharp ground ball. Bradhanton is going to blow games. It's

962
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: a bad reliever. We know that if he is actually

963
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: gonna be trusted in that bullpen is a mistake, and

964
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: I hope they trust him because he sucks again. We're

965
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 3: gonna learn so much about this division. When we play

966
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: these Phillies thirteen times before June first, so much.

967
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: You know me, I will always always undervalue the Phillies.

968
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: They're a fourth place team. I'm never gonna give them

969
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: the respect that they deserve. They've been complete ass for

970
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: the last ten years. Congrats you got Castanos and Schwarber.

971
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Those are good hitters. Hitting has never been your problem

972
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. That's never been the issue until I can

973
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: see them be a competent team on the pitching side.

974
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: I know you said Wheeler. No, all of those guys

975
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: are good. There's no doubt. The starting rotation actually isn't

976
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: like it's been in the past. But the bullpen is

977
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: a mess. It's an absolute men and we know as

978
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: much as anybody bullpens are super important. We know that

979
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: that could just derail a season. Not to mention one

980
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: thing goes wrong for the Phillies, one thing, they're fucked.

981
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: They have no idea what to do.

982
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, and that one thing would be either Wheeler

983
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: or Nola. Something happening to them as we're dealing with

984
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: now is the Mets fans. But that the Phillies bullpen,

985
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's good, but it's not really awful.

986
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: Right now, this is the best Phillies bullpen that any

987
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: of us have seen in what five years, easily, Like

988
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Corey Canabel is good, but he's a ratic. Jose Alvarado,

989
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: he's a rat scum, but he's good, also a ratic.

990
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna disrespect Jerry's familiar. He's a fine reliever.

991
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: And then it kind of Brogden is kind of good.

992
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: The same with Sean Kunrod who might open the year

993
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: in the minor leagues. And Bailly Fault I also think

994
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: is tolerable where our bullpen's better than them by Bess

995
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Bates five six levels better than their bullpen. But this

996
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: Phillies bullpen is not. It's an improvement from disaster, which

997
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: has been consistently for the last five years. And that's

998
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: a massive improvement not being a disaster.

999
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess you know me. I just can't

1000
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: give the Phillies any sort of credit. I will always

1001
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: way then I should be on them.

1002
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have to overcompensate and actually respect the plays.

1003
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: Also forgotbout zach Eflin.

1004
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: It's gonna come back after his like third degenerative knee issue,

1005
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: who might even be good when he does pitch, but

1006
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: if he does pitch. But there's there's things happening in

1007
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: this Philadelphia Phillies team that really make me uneasy about

1008
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: the way the season could start.

1009
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: You know what, though, there's things happening with the Mets.

1010
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I know the ground injury. I know that's the big

1011
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: dark cloud looming over everything. But I really am so

1012
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: hopeful about this offense. Mart's looking great. Martes looked awesome

1013
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: in this spring, in the games that he's played. That

1014
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: dude is still an incredible shape. He's playing the outfield

1015
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: really well. It doesn't seem like there's gonna be any

1016
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: leash on him whatsoever. It seems like he's just ready

1017
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: to play and he's gonna be ready to go for

1018
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Opening Day, which is great. I love the addition of

1019
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Canna again Oatmeal, but he's looking pretty good. And you

1020
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: played a little center field today, which I thought was

1021
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: interesting as well, that they went Cana in center and

1022
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: not Marte after the injury stuff. So that's that's worth noting.

1023
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Pete's still greatland Doors looking great. Don't even get me

1024
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: start on my boy Esco bombs. As you've given him

1025
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: the nickname. I love Eduardo Escobar. He's an extra base

1026
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: hit machine. I love the way he plays. He's apparently

1027
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: a great locker room guy as well. I'm so excited

1028
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: to see that guy play every day at third base.

1029
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: Which is a sentence that just made your skin crawl.

1030
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: I know it didn't make my skin crawl. I just

1031
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: he's a fine player. I'm not like I'm getting out

1032
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: of bed to watch it. I play baseball, but I

1033
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: have dubbed a Mesco bombs, so he's gonna give me

1034
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: my guy.

1035
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1036
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: It's crazy. We've gone forty minus into this.

1037
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: We haven't even mentioned Brandon Nemo having a stiff neck,

1038
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: which that's usually the beginning of the end for brand Nemo.

1039
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the high road, row

1040
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 3: the positivity here. I'm gonna assume he's going to be okay.

1041
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: And they put Cannon on centerfield in today's game, Mondays

1042
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: game against the Astros just to keep starling Marte consistently

1043
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: getting those right field reps, this position he has not

1044
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: played before, to kind of get a set. So the

1045
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: way the ball comes off the bat, the way the

1046
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: ball cuts toward the line, the way he's gonna play

1047
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: against the wall is different for Starting Marte and brand

1048
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: Nemo will be okay, But that outfield is an interesting

1049
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: thing going on. It'spring training right now. I think something

1050
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: that a lot of met fans are almost a little

1051
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: perturbed by the fact that Starting Marte was brought here

1052
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: to objectively maybe be a center fielder and now suddenly

1053
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: is not.

1054
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be our center fielder. He's

1055
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: gold Glove caliber in the past. But Bucks Joe Walter

1056
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: has said the reason why starling mart is the right

1057
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: field doesn't actually have a anything to do with his

1058
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: health or anything like that. He wants a strong arm

1059
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: and right field, and Marte has the best arm of

1060
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: all three of those guys. So is that the right

1061
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: way to think about things. I don't know. I don't

1062
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: know if arms should outweigh range in terms of, you know,

1063
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: center field. But Nimo has looked good out there, but

1064
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: of course that's stiff. Next thing is an issue. I mean,

1065
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: can we get this guy like a my pillow or something.

1066
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: Is he needed temper Peede Wick. He has more stiff

1067
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: necks and stiff backs than anybody I've ever seen. Is

1068
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: he laying on the floor when he goes to bed.

1069
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: What is the quality of mattress and pillow that brandon

1070
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Nimo has, And can we get the crackhead that is

1071
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: the my pillow owner to maybe just sponsor the Mets

1072
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: and start handing out pillows to everybody. Because we fixed

1073
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: Tom Smith's sleeping problems a few years ago that s

1074
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: needed to change his game. Maybe brandon Nimo just needs

1075
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: a good pillow at night and the stiff next would

1076
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: be a thing of the past.

1077
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: I was really looking for the sentence today from Buck Showalter.

1078
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: Anyone around the Mets would be like, if this was

1079
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: regular season game, he'd be playing. The fact no one

1080
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: said that made me upset. So when there's a spring

1081
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: training injury, you have to say, if this is a

1082
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: regular season game, he'd be out there. If this was

1083
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: a game that mattered, he'd be out there.

1084
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: No one said that. I don't know why no one

1085
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: said that. I really want to hear that. It was upsetting.

1086
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think Buck said he's missing today and

1087
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll see. We hope he's ready for Opening Day.

1088
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Twitch go you hope it's a stiff neck. What the

1089
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: fuck happened?

1090
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he's sleeping on a wood board.

1091
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, I mean like again, Brendan, Oh, he's

1092
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up being fine at the

1093
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: end of the day. This this team offensively looks good.

1094
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: And I also want to give a shout to our

1095
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: boyd NDO behind the plate swinging the bat really really well,

1096
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and I think is going to be the getting the

1097
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: majority of catching time right now. I think he's kind

1098
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: of wanted over McCann.

1099
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: At least I think he may have won of over

1100
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: mccamn besides for the dollars and cents associated with both

1101
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: of them, each of their names. McCann in classic fashion

1102
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: today bases loaded, second inning, hit, the ground ball double play.

1103
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: He really made me feel like the season was starting

1104
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: and I felt alive. Watching James, I got instinctively mad,

1105
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: even though it was spring training game and I was

1106
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: like shit, I was like, oh, it doesn't matter whatever.

1107
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: But he did get a base hit after that. It's

1108
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: just I don't know those guys.

1109
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Shit.

1110
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 3: Edward's been a fifty to fifty partnership at this point,

1111
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: right like Tomas, Neido has done enough to make me

1112
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: think between his defense and just some kind of offensive

1113
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: potential sometimes here and there to make me think that

1114
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: he should be getting enough of these catcher reps to

1115
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: not want to pull my hair out for James McCann

1116
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: coming to the plate.

1117
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will so, Like I've been saying this since

1118
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: last year too, Like against lefties, I think McCann should play.

1119
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: He hits well against lefties. He had like a seven

1120
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: fifty seven to sixty ops last year against left handed pitching. Granted,

1121
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: we are paying him ten million dollars a year to

1122
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: only face left handed pitching, which is a very rare

1123
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: occurrence at times, but you have to use the guys

1124
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: to the best of your ability, and Nito defensively right

1125
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: now is by far the better catcher and gives us

1126
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: way more value behind the plate. I mean, we saw

1127
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: him stealing strikes even in spring training. I know it's

1128
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: spring training for the umpires, but there was a curve

1129
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: ball to from Chris Bassett to Jorge Hilaire that basically

1130
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: touched the ground and it was called for a strike.

1131
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: That's Thomas Nedo right there. The dude's a fantastic framer,

1132
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: and I think right now, especially when you get the

1133
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: DH into the lineup, so it makes your line up

1134
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: a little bit longer, Thomas Nino can almost take in

1135
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: that de facto pitcher hitting role, and he's gonna be

1136
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: better than any pitcher's ever hit for the Mets anyway.

1137
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: So like I take the defense over James McCann there, yeah.

1138
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: I do too, but I'm not.

1139
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to fully rid James mccannalff because he

1140
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: did show a little bit of like last year. If

1141
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: you just can freaking lift the ball once in a while,

1142
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: you just have to get the ball in the air.

1143
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: And Tomas Neil again, he also has to get the

1144
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: ball in the air, but what he gives you defensively

1145
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: is important.

1146
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: I also think you're gonna see.

1147
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: Probably some of these more veteran pictures with more diverse

1148
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: repertoires possibly gravitate towards me though, as we've seen guys

1149
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: do in the last few years. You mentioned Chris Bassett,

1150
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: that big loopy curveball, the color of the change up

1151
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: the sinker, like he's a guy who's gonna be it

1152
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: edging around the strikes one a lot. I would like

1153
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: to see a more adept framer for him, not that

1154
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: we know anything about real framing anyway. Every single place

1155
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: gives us different stats, different readings, but I just do

1156
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: feel like my eye test, as not expert that I am,

1157
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: Tomaso does seem to steal more strikes. I could definitely

1158
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: see Max Scherzer also gravitating towards him, even though shares

1159
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: there is a consummatet pro's pitch. Whoever's back there, he

1160
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: doesn't really care. But that's that's kind of where we're

1161
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: at with this ketcher platoon right now. And I do

1162
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: think that we are looking at a bit of fifty

1163
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: to fifty.

1164
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Chair, which I think at the absolute minimum, that should

1165
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: be where it starts the year and let the guys

1166
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: play it out. The spring training battle doesn't have to

1167
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: end when the regular season starts. See who plays better,

1168
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: and then you play the hot hand. That's how it

1169
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: really should be at the catcher position.

1170
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: And then we've also seen James mccamon perform far better

1171
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: in his career when he's had less of a role.

1172
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: So maybe last year playing a hundred twenty games just

1173
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: a few too many for him. Maybe you should be

1174
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: sticking it too that ninety two one hundred range, like

1175
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: most part time catchers in this league are.

1176
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: There's very few catchers that play as many games as

1177
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: James McCann did last year.

1178
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: There's no reason to compound the ten million dollar contract

1179
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: as a problem by making him play more games than

1180
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: he should like that was a mistake. Sure, get past it.

1181
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: Just playing for ninety games, it'll be okay.

1182
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: You want to talk about compounding a contract, how about

1183
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: a little Robinson Cano action here.

1184
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, guy, he's seven for his last seven

1185
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: to close the spring.

1186
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: Whether you want from him.

1187
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: I would love for him to hit the ball hard once.

1188
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: I'd love for him to hit the ball hard once.

1189
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: He has not hit the ball over one hundred miles

1190
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: an hour. I think this spring, of the last seven hits,

1191
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: that he has none of them over one hundred miles

1192
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: an hour. I don't think he's even hit a ball

1193
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: over three hundred feet this spring. That is concerning to me.

1194
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: I know everyone's like, well, seven for seven, it's seven hits.

1195
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Like, you'll take that all day? Yeah,

1196
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: But the idea is that this isn't gonna last. They'll

1197
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: just shift him, They'll find the new spots to play there.

1198
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: Guys cannot hit a ball over an outfielder's head singles

1199
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: all day he cannot hit a double. If you play

1200
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the guys on a warning track and it drops in

1201
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: front of him, even if it's a blue, someone will

1202
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: get there quicker than Robinson Cano can get to second base.

1203
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm so negative on Robinson Cano. I hate

1204
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: to be that guy. It's one of the few things

1205
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be negative about all year. But man, seeing

1206
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: him play gives me just gives me anger.

1207
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: I do get what you're saying, but it does seem

1208
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: like he has the inside track on the left handed

1209
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: hitting dh Roll seemingly ahead of Dom Smith right now,

1210
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: depending on how Brandon IMA's next shakes out before opening day.

1211
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: But we're gonna have to deal with this Robinson Cano

1212
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 3: thing for at least a month. He's either gonna hit

1213
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: his way into a job or he's just not and

1214
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: he's gonna just be wasting away in the bench as

1215
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: left handed has a left handed pinch either in platooner.

1216
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: I would love for him to prove me wrong. Let

1217
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: me put that first and foremost. I would love to

1218
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: come back to, you know, the first the season preview,

1219
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: the first episode with the seven line, and everyone goes,

1220
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: remember that idiot, Mark said Robinson Cano had nothing left

1221
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: in the tank, and we see by the end of

1222
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: April he's got four or five home runs sitting three twenty.

1223
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: I go, hey, I was wrong. Congratulations. I'll take that

1224
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: chance at that risk every single time. I would love

1225
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: to be wrong. But Keith is like salivating over Robinson Cano.

1226
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: He thinks he's like right back to his prime, where

1227
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: it's like you just have a little deeper into the

1228
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: numbers and it's like he's playing well. He's not actually

1229
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: hitting well.

1230
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Cano's got the back control, He's got

1231
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: the smooth lefty stroke, He's hitting the ball hard, right

1232
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: in the nose.

1233
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: That's what what do you want the guy?

1234
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: I love Keith. I love Keith, But to hear him

1235
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: say he's got the same quick hands that he's always had,

1236
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I go, that's just not physically possible. That that's not true.

1237
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: I know you're right about that. And also in this

1238
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: DH makes me still have J. D.

1239
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: Davis, who inconspicuously has not even been spoken about a

1240
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: lick this entire spring training from people in Mets world

1241
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: and people outside of it.

1242
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: He seems to be the guy kind.

1243
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: Of getting squeezed out here when he seems to be

1244
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: the guy who will always play when is the left

1245
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: handed pitcher on the mound, but seemingly at no other times.

1246
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the DH against lefties because unfortunately for

1247
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: JD's sake, cannot play the field. The only time he

1248
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: should ever be touching infield dirt t when he's run

1249
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: the bases because boyle boys as a third base not

1250
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: very good over there as it throws. It's a mental thing.

1251
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Half of the problem seems to be mental. He does

1252
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: that double clutch and then he spikes it or overthrows

1253
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: it like it's tough. It's a guy who doesn't know

1254
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: what position. He's been playing the last I don't know,

1255
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: probably ten years of his baseball career. He pitched in college,

1256
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: like this guy. They've been trying to figure out a

1257
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: way to get JD. Davis into a lineup any way possible,

1258
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: because he has the talent and the ability that is

1259
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: worth it. It's just trying to figure out where, and

1260
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: it just feels like right now, like you said, against

1261
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: left handed pitching, he's that DH option.

1262
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, does kind of feel like that, but it's almost

1263
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: like the peak of his role and now we have

1264
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: two just simple DH's on the roster, which is the

1265
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: exact opposite place that I've worn that the Mets should

1266
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: be heading into the season. Now we have two guys

1267
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: on the betch who would give us literally no defensive.

1268
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: Value whatsoever between JD. Davis or Robinson Cano.

1269
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: And if neither of those guys have a WRC plus

1270
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: that sniffs like five one thirty, it's just it's just

1271
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: gonna be a bad use of roster spots, which is

1272
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: really upsetting that we've gotten through the entire offseason and

1273
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: then it has not been addressed.

1274
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's definitely one of the issues. G or

1275
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: May is basically our backup that's not.

1276
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: A DH yes literally and yeah, basically the only one.

1277
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: And jen Kowski is gonna make this team. He's gonna

1278
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: be the center field during on the.

1279
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: Bench, Yeah, Which she's a fun little player on the bench.

1280
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: She brings speed, something we need and defense need that defense.

1281
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: And then in terms of hitting, I think the only

1282
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: other guy we really have left to talk about is

1283
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: is Jeff McNeil. We've pretty much covered some way or

1284
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: another every single player on this roster. Jeff McNeil's the

1285
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: last one. He's looking good this spring, and I also

1286
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: think it's worth noting that he's not screaming fuck or

1287
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: throwing his helmet or snapping bats over his knee after

1288
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: every single out, So maybe he's talked to an anger

1289
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Speaker 1: management counselor whatever it is. I like the new Jeff

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00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: McNeil that we're seeing. I still want a little bit

1291
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: of red ass from him in the season. I still

1292
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: want that intensity. But as Keith said on the broadcast

1293
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: the other day, you gotta know you're not hitting a thousand.

1294
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: It's never been done before, and you are not gonna

1295
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: do it. And it seems like he's at least a

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00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: little more.

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00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: Calm, definitely, And but you have seen the eyes when

1298
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: he's going down the front base first base on a

1299
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: line drive. I think on Saturday or Sunday someone called

1300
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 3: it in center field and he just like grabbed a helmet.

1301
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: He was like, didn't do it. He thought it, but

1302
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: he did not do it. Maybe that's just a difference

1303
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: between spring training and the regular season. But it is

1304
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: important to note that the Mets are continuing to hit

1305
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: Jeff McNeil high in the order in spring training.

1306
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: When he does play.

1307
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: You've seen him hit one and two pretty consistently as

1308
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 3: opposed to six. He also got his first outfield rep

1309
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: of spring training over the weekend too, which we've been

1310
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: talking about the fact that he does have to be

1311
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: a backup outfielder again because of the way this roster

1312
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: is constructed right now, and I am happy to see.

1313
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: That he he's.

1314
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Speaker 3: Capable of doing that, and the team is comfortable him

1315
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: doing because he always always been a good outfielder and

1316
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: he's been out there and the fact that they're continuing

1317
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: to hit him hind and the ord the means the team

1318
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: internally still has a lot of confidence Jeff McNeil, and

1319
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: there's almost no reason that we shouldn't as well.

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00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a World War Nimo misses the first first

1321
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: few games whatever, McNeil one hundred percent should be starting

1322
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: in the outfield over dom dom Dom defensively is a mess.

1323
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: We know that the bat's looking better, but defensively, you

1324
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: gotta go with McNeil in the outfield, for sure.

1325
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much does, unless they want to play gen Kowski.

1326
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: And that depends, honestly, how comfortable they are with either

1327
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: Canada or Marte in center. Because if they aren't comfortable

1328
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: to those guys in center, Jankowski's going to be the

1329
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: center fielder.

1330
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: But it would be.

1331
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: Really interesting if Nimo is missing time and the Mets

1332
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: continue to play Starling Marte in the right field. That

1333
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: would almost make me think that something is something's a miss.

1334
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: I really just think it's Buck talking about the arm.

1335
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: I really like. I like the McNeil thing, like we

1336
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: love McNeil, but we also know that in this Mets

1337
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: line about its healthiest, he shouldn't be hitting in the

1338
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: first three batters. There's just no way there are better players.

1339
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: So this could just be a little bit of Buck

1340
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: old school thing, like need a good arm and right field,

1341
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: and he's our best one and he's playing there.

1342
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: I guess you're right about that.

1343
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all this nonsense until we actually

1344
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 3: know if Brandon was going to be in the lineup

1345
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: and opening day. But this is just all these kind

1346
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: of fun little things that those Mets fans have to

1347
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: keep track of before we get going here. Whether it

1348
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: be Thursday or Friday, depending on the rain in Washington, Yeah,

1349
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 3: can we please?

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00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: I would love a clean opening day. I don't want

1351
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: to rain. I don't want to rained out Opening Day

1352
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: start on Friday, like the vibes on Thursday, should be exciting,

1353
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: should be plentiful. I don't want rain.

1354
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Nationals fed back to back home openers rained.

1355
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Out fucking Washington Nationals. Man hate that team.

1356
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't have any emotions towards that team

1357
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: at all. On honestly, I feel.

1358
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: Nothing for them. I guess the Nationals that we hated

1359
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: are no longer.

1360
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: There no almost none of them. But I mean, hey,

1361
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty excited about getting the season going.

1362
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

1363
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: We talked about almost every single guy in this roster,

1364
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: guys who are not in this roster, guys it used

1365
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: to be this roster, and guys who might have been

1366
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: in this roster in this episode. There's a lot going

1367
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: on here, and I'm pretty excited.

1368
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm super excited. And I think the Mets outlook,

1369
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, with some bad news coming here and there,

1370
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: I still think it is very positive. I still think

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00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: this is a very good team, as to you, and

1372
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Speaker 1: I think the Mets, as honest things go right, could

1373
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: be in a really really good spot when all things

1374
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Speaker 1: come to an end at the end of the season.

1375
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Speaker 1: All right, And we tweeted out earlier that we're gonna

1376
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: answer some viewer questions as well as last episode. I

1377
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: did promise that anyone dropped us a review, we'd give

1378
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Speaker 1: him a shout out. So here we go. Here's some reviews.

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Speaker 1: One of them is just a bunch of letters hys

1380
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: and us. You know who you are, whoever made that.

1381
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: We got a plane sim not airplane, sim a plane

1382
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: sim So thank you for the five star review and

1383
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: big train dude. Thank you guys for the reviews. Appreciate it.

1384
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: There's your little shout outs. Now ask for Twitter again.

1385
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: We asked for some questions, comments, concerns. Gonna scour through,

1386
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: pick some of the best ones and give you guys

1387
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: a shout out there from Twitter as well. At Mets Up.

1388
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Speaker 3: All right, first question, it comes from our friend Nick

1389
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: kowhile the Koala four very loyal listening to the Messed

1390
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: Up podcast. He says, there any incredible reason why the

1391
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: Mets wouldn't just cut Cano and e his soud instead

1392
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: of starving him over Dom and j D. And the

1393
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: answer is because that as a really big salary. That's

1394
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: just as basically it.

1395
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1396
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: I know Steve Cohen has billions and billions of dollars,

1397
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: but I think if he would have Couto probably already

1398
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: would have happened, or he's just gonna wait for him

1399
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 3: to play like absolute dog shit, not saying that cutting

1400
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 3: him off the table, but there's no way it happens

1401
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: before opening day after coming off a seven seven for

1402
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 3: seven stretch.

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00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: You have to at least see what Robinson Cano gives you,

1404
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: and if it's anything, you take it. If it's nothing,

1405
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: that's when you get the consideration of possibly cutting him.

1406
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna happen, probably before, like June first.

1407
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: I can't see that happening.

1408
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: Almost definitely, not unless he's really really atrocious in April,

1409
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: which is possible. But it's just so much money, the

1410
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: fact that he's owed basically forty million over the next

1411
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: two seasons. It's really hard the stomach cutting that, especially

1412
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: because it's still gonna count against your tax line.

1413
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: You might as well just leave him.

1414
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Got a fun one here. This one comes from I

1415
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: love my uncle Steve at Schroeder Greg underscore Rookie of

1416
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: the Year pick for the Mets. I like this one

1417
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: a lot. Which rookie player do we think can have

1418
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: the biggest impact for the New York Mets? Between Khalil

1419
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: Lee Brett Baby, Mark Vento's or maybe someone else like

1420
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: that question, I think biggest impact wise for the Mets

1421
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: this season, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Brett Batty.

1422
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: I think Brett Bady gets called up maybe mid season,

1423
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: is around that June julyish area, and I think he's

1424
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to give us a little something with

1425
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: the bat left handed wise, play a little third base,

1426
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: maybe even a little outfield, you never know. I like

1427
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: Brett Baty a lot to be our pick, my pick,

1428
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: I should say.

1429
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna spin down the round, say Mark Fianzo's.

1430
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 3: I think that if there's a if there's a corner

1431
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: and field injury for the Mets, I think you're gonna

1432
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: see Mark Vande's come up really quickly, because he has

1433
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: already dominated Double A and hit very well on Triple

1434
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: A in a short sample. He clearly has a major

1435
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 3: league bat. He does not have a major league glove,

1436
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: but probably never have a major league glove. So if

1437
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: we're scuggling on offense in any way, and we've gotten

1438
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: a big injury, maybe DH has opened up. Maybe something

1439
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: happened with second base or third base, and when third

1440
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: base is opened up. If there is, there's a lot

1441
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 3: of ways for I think Mark Fianzo's impact this team.

1442
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: And also just I will shout out clearly he's the

1443
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: most obvious choice for rookie who will impact this team.

1444
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: I just I just worried about his swing and how

1445
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: it a just major league pitching. We saw how bad

1446
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: he was last year. Not that that's the guy he

1447
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: is or will be, but the talent chasm between Triple

1448
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: A and the major leagues is as why it's ever been,

1449
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: mostly due to difference in velocity and khalil Ly's big

1450
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: left hands. Of swing seems like it would be one

1451
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: that struggle will struggle with velosity, and it did struggle

1452
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: with vlosite last year. So while there's a lot of

1453
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: things he can do to help a baseball team, like

1454
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: hit home runs and make really nice plays in the outfield,

1455
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 3: I would like to see him.

1456
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about.

1457
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: Swings, but maybe a swing of just might actually help

1458
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 3: him impact major league baseball team.

1459
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: More so, he's got the Frenchie Cordero thing going on.

1460
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: HiT's all really hard, throws it really hard, runs, really fast,

1461
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: hit the ball too often. Yeah, tons of walks like

1462
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: you love all the peripheral stuff of him, but the

1463
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: actual performance at the major league level, there's definitely some

1464
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: tweaks that need to be made. And I also want

1465
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: to talk about I mean shout out to Jack Bennet

1466
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: because he asked us about Khalil Lee, so let's give

1467
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: him a shout out too. And I think the final

1468
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: one that we'll talk about here is gonna come from

1469
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Johnny b signed up for. This has to do with

1470
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez's impact on this team. We've saw him play

1471
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: a little bit this spring. Looked pretty good. Even behind

1472
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: the place, he looked pretty solid. I think, better than

1473
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people expected. I don't know if it's

1474
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: realistic to expect Francisco Alvarez to make an impact on

1475
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: this team, but I will say this, I think he could.

1476
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: I very much think he could make an impact on

1477
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: this team. I think it's a real possibility.

1478
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

1479
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: We broke it down a few episodes ago, but the

1480
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: ZIPS projection system on fangrafs, which is their most used

1481
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 3: projection system when projecting still minor league players, it says

1482
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: that this year Francisco Olivers would be a major league

1483
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: average hitter his WRC plus but basically right at one hundred,

1484
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: which signifies you're an average player in Major League Baseball.

1485
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: And I think that again, if there's a major injury

1486
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: to one of these catchers, there's a chance incis he

1487
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: also Francisca Oliveras has to dominate double A. If he's

1488
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: just getting by in Double A, probably not gonna see

1489
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: him until midway through next year. But Francisco Olivarez has

1490
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: put up eight home runs in his first twenty five

1491
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: games for the Rumble Ponies.

1492
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: There is a chance that you start end again.

1493
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: James mccannon's thinking at the play it still you're gonna

1494
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: start hearing the rumblings. There is a chance that he

1495
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: gets he gets to make his major league debut this year.

1496
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think the injury is probably the quickest

1497
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: way for him to get there. But we know the

1498
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: bat plays the basket and play anywhere. The bat sounds different.

1499
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: He's part of that group of guys who just hit

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit different. I would love to

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Speaker 1: see Francisco auf Forrez make an impact. Will he this year?

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Speaker 1: Probably unlikely, But I think those were our questions over

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, all the other ones that people asked, we

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Speaker 1: kind of already got to them through this episode, so

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Speaker 1: apologies that we didn't get to choose yours, but your

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Speaker 1: question got answered one way or another. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's a perfect way for us to wrap up here.

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Speaker 1: Episode number eighty one of the mess Up Podcast the

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Speaker 1: first partnered up presented by the seven Line. Huge shot

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Speaker 1: to them. Super excited to do a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: in the future with them, go to games, interact with

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Speaker 1: you guys. We are also, you know, on Twitter super active,

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Speaker 1: so if you don't follow us on Twitter at mets up,

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Speaker 1: Instagram mets up, we tweet out asking you guys for questions, comments, concerns, replying.

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Speaker 1: We're always interacting with the fans, so make sure you're

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Speaker 1: following us as well as following us on our personal twitters.

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Speaker 1: I'm at your raphneck Mark and James at Jeter had

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Speaker 1: no range. Listening to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: wherever you find us, drop us a rating, drop us

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Speaker 1: a review, as well as subscribe to our YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: mess Up, mess Up Podcast over there on YouTube. All

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Speaker 1: the new viewers, all the old viewers. Hopefully you guys

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Speaker 1: love what you saw today. And again, I know I've

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Speaker 1: mentioned a few times, but this is our first episode

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Speaker 1: partnering up with the Seven Line. Huge shout out to

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Speaker 1: Darren over there for giving us a chance partnering up

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Speaker 1: with us. We're super excited to reach a whole new

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Speaker 1: group of Mets fans, a whole new audience. So make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys do stick around if you like what

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Speaker 1: you see. If you see us at Met Games, you

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Speaker 1: see us at seven Line, you know parties, see us

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Speaker 1: at tailgates, make sure you say what's up. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be doing a ton of content with them all year

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Speaker 1: long as one of the Mets podcasts in their network

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Speaker 1: of podcasts, which is gonna be great. And hopefully you

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Speaker 1: guys like what you saw here, So if you do

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Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter, Instagram. I gave you that you

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Speaker 1: bill already, but I'm gonna say it again at Mets

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Speaker 1: Up and I think that's a perfect way to wrap

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Speaker 1: it up, right James. Oh Yeah, all right, guys, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll see on the next episode when we

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Speaker 1: actually have baseball to talk about the Washington National Series

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Speaker 1: at the end of it. See you next time, guys.

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Speaker 3: Peace Out, peace out, guys, Thanks for listening. S