1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: What's up Vatchination. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: I am Joe and I am Serena, and. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: We are back for another episode later this week. We 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: are going to be chatting with Dotton. We've we're big 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: fans of Doton, so you definitely want to stay tuned 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: for that. It's a great interview. And yeah, before we 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: get into recapping the episode, what's new? What's new? Serena P? 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Nothing much, nothing much, just traveling a lot. I'm in 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Toronto right now. Got my boucherette party coming up. 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be in Chicago pretty soon, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: so I'm excited about that. And yeah, we any uh, 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: anything anything new in our life? Anything we could talk 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: about here. 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't think. So. 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: We had your cousin's wedding. We had your cousin's wedding 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: over the weekend. That was a lot of fun. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. And that was our 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: last wedding before our wedding, which was kind of surreal. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: I mean, not that we go to like a crazy 20 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: amoun of wedding, but we've had two or three weddings 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: this year, and to know that the next one that 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: we attend is going to be our own was so crazy. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: And I did, yes that, And I also wore a tie, 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: a pink tie. And I think subconsciously you calling out 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: the guys in episode one for not wearing a tie 26 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: made me buy a tie for this wedding. 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: I think it did too. I think my comment definitely 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: got into your subconscious because I've never seen you really 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: wear a tie, but I liked it. It was pink. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I ended up wearing like a purply pink dress, which 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: is kind of out of my comfort zone, and I 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: liked her. I it's thought we looked super cute. 33 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: YEP. I actually used to have to wear a tie 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: in grammar school. You know that. 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I wasn't a uniform kid. I 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: went to like an arts high school, so we could 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: wear whatever we wanted for the most part. But I 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: feel like you would not have liked wearing an uniform 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: as a kid I was. 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I didn't like wearing a uniform. I was a uniform 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: kid throughout, even throughout high school. I used to try 42 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: to like sneak in like like lou Lemon, like jogging 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: pants for my for my dress pants, but it didn't 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: it didn't really work. 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: We're still trying to do that today, still still. 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Trying to do it. All right, let's let's get into it. 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's recap this episode episode for location Ska Mania. Am 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: I saying that right, it's Skaminni scot Ska Mania. Of 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: course that's not right, Skimania Washington beautiful? It is, right, U. 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: It's it's near Oregon. It's just like a very pretty state. 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: You know, it's giving Canada. It looked really a lot 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: like Canada, like very a lot of nature, a lot 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: of greenery. The weather didn't look spectacular while they were there. 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: It was kind of cloudy and gloomy, but very very pretty. 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: As much as they haven't traveled to Europe, Yeah, I 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: still love watching them travel just to different places, like 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: seeing different fashion, different weather, different scenery. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I thought about it. 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Think it's a huge difference. 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I thought about that this episode when they went in Washington, 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: where I'm like, there's so many beautiful parts of the 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: US that we just we don't really we may not 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: think of going or see much of. So Yeah, yeah, 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: I liked it, and I think it's got to be near. 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: When we go to Serena's families from her mom's side, 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: from British Columbia. So we go out to like Victoria, 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: which is also a very picturesque. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks a lot like the west coast of Canada. 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, we're there. We see the first 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I like, the first point I made in my notes 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: is Brandon is really having our time, can't really. He's 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: listening to the guys, He's not buying what they're saying, 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: which I you know, I feel like we could all relate. 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: To that, like do you buy what they're saying? 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: So I think some of them listen not I don't think. 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: I think I think some of them are full of 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: shit and they may not even know it. And then 78 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I think some of them are are being honest and real. 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: I think Brayden is definitely coming across kind of jade 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: it now, like he's just like really not buying into it. 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of what he's saying, like we see 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Sean talk about, you know, like how this process is 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: working for him and he has really strong feelings for 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: her and like I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, 85 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: and since we haven't seen a lot of their relationship, 86 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: like maybe they do have a great connection, but like 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: it is hard to take it as seriously as someone 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: who's had like a one on one date, because I'm like, Sean, 89 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: you have spend that much time with her, Like, are 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: you sure you're ready to get down on Wennee already? 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: Like it's only week four. But I do think it's 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: easy to like get caught up in the process and 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: hear all these other guys saying it and just get 94 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: carried away with your emotions a little bit. But then 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: there are guys who definitely are getting there, and we 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: see that going into Dotton's one on one, which we'll 97 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: talk about more. But I agree Brayden. 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: He's got to lean he's got to lean in a 99 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: little bit like he's he's going to try. 100 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: I just feel like he's at the point where I'm like, 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: we've been trying to root for you, but I don't 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: know how hard he's trying. And I think he's getting 103 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: to the point where if he is trying, like he's 104 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: he's tired, he's getting fed up. 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Well we see that kind of later in the episode. 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I agree completely, and then we have 107 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: so our guy, Uh part of my top four is? 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: Is Dotton part of your top four? 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't think I put him. I don't think you 110 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: I had I had Josh John, I had Joey, and 111 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: I had Aaron B. So no, I didn't a huge 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: miss on my part. 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: You're not looking good. How many guys do you even 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: have left? In that? 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: I have Joey and I have Aaron B. So I've 116 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: got two strong contenders. 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I got all four, so we're still really do 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: you have all four? Yeah? I have Joey, Dotton, Xavier, 119 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and and Tanner. Tanner was still there. He's still there, 120 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: and it seems like she likes him. 121 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's the sleeper. Maybe he's the one that, 122 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: like next week gets the one on one and like 123 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: they have an amazing connection that we haven't been seeing. 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: There's always a sleeper. There's always a sleeper. So Donton 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: gets the one on one. They they get into a 126 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: yellow Jeep Wrangler. You know, I used to have a 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Jeep Wrangler four door. 128 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: I think I knew that. Wasn't it like your first 129 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: car or one of your first cars? 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: No, no, but I did. I love a Jeep railer 131 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: and I just that was one just one of the 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: things I noticed. 133 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: It's a cool car. It's a cool car and it 134 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: fits the setting very well. 135 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they go worst, worst possible date, imaginable bungee jumping. 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I would just absolutely hate every second of it. 137 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: You Know what I was laughing at is they're really 138 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: not filling charity in this season on the dates like 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: this is the second or third day. She showed up too, 140 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: and like, I have no idea what's going on? And 141 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: she guess there she was like she basically was like, 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this. Like there's definitely a 143 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: reason they didn't tell her she was gonna be going 144 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: bungee jumping that day. 145 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think they ever I mean I 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: don't think they ever let the lee know what date 147 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: they're going on. I'm assuming they're probably like, like, you know, 148 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: get ready, like prepare them a little bit well for. 149 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: Her day with Xavier later on in the episode, she 150 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: definitely knew what was happening. But I thought it was 151 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: fun that her and Dotten both walked up and it 152 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: was like a surprise for both of them versus her 153 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: having to kind of lead the day. It puts them 154 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: on a little bit more of an even playing field. 155 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, would you thay would you like that day? Would 156 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: you want a bungee jump. 157 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I don't have any interest in bungee jumping 158 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: or skydiving. My dad has a crazy fear of heights, 159 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: and my parents were always pretty chill growing up, and 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: one of the big rules was like, please just don't 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: jump off of anything tall. And I feel like that 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: is like built within me now and I just have 163 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: no interest in doing it. But if I was there 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: and presented with the opportunity, I don't think I would. 165 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I would say no, not doing this. 166 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: I think I would seize the moment and do it. 167 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: But it does not compel me to like jump off 168 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: a bridge and see if the cord doesn't break. 169 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, I agree, I don't think I 170 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: would have backed out. I mean, I and I have 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: skydive before, which I think is a little scarier than 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: budge jumping. I would just worry about getting nauseous with 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: budge jumping. But it see like, so Charity's freaking out, 174 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Dotton's freaking out. But what Dotton does, what any good 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: partner does, is makes her feel comfortable, you know what. 176 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: The way he was comforting her, I actually it reminded 177 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: me of you, and I like when he was like, 178 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm freaking out, but then she was freaking out even 179 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: more and he was hugging her knee, was like, it's okay, 180 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: it's gonna be fine. I was like, Oh, it kind 181 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: of reminds me of me in Joe a little bit. 182 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so, that is that is something I do. 183 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for that for that count. I 184 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: also received another compliment via email. I don't know if 185 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: you saw it yet, but I didn't. 186 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh wait with it, the one about your acting the 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: Mabling commercial. 188 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: My acting skills, Like you just becoming an actor. So yeah, 189 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: So then, but date's going great and I they have 190 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: their little like dinner one on one time after in Dotton, 191 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: we see him now opening up and he talks about 192 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: which when he comes out later this week, we definitely 193 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about his aunt putting him up for 194 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: a lottery to get into the United States. So I 195 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: actually can't wait to hear more about about that story. 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know. For me, like watching them, and 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: it's not boring by any means, it just feels it 198 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: just feels extremely natural. It really does feel like we're 199 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: we're sitting in their private house. 200 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Like watching them, I agree. It feels supernatural. They're equally 201 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: very into each other, I believe, and Donton to me 202 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: comes across as someone who, like went on the show. 203 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: He seems like a very normal guy, like was just 204 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: kind of like, let's see how this goes, and like 205 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: he's someone who's really falling for this girl and this 206 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: process is really really working for him, I think. And 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: he's like seems a little like blown away by it 208 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: all and blown away by Charity, which is just very endearing. 209 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: I also feel like they've done a lot more like 210 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: casual stuff, where like like they did the pool day 211 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: and now they're not doing like a formal date. They 212 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: did like the s'mores by the campfire, and I like 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: watching that stuff because I feel like people's guards really 214 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: come down. 215 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think, like you said, like this 216 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: process is working is working for him. I don't ever 217 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: really even believe the process has anything to do with it. 218 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: I always just think it's the person. Like when you 219 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: actually like have that spark and you're really into someone, 220 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: regardless of the process, you're just kind of like all right, 221 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: like I want to see where this goes, you know. 222 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: Yes, Like I believe Dotton and Charity could have met 223 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: in a variety of different settings and hit it off, 224 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: like I just feel like there are two people with 225 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: a genuine connection. 226 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, And she said, we see her in 227 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: her interview say I I'm cheesing. I haven't had this 228 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: in a minute, And you could just tell that was 229 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: just like so like real and that's just how she's feeling. 230 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, she's a really expressive person and you could 231 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: just tell how happy she is, and you could tell 232 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: he's really happy too, Like I'm just so excited to 233 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: watch for their relationship unfolds and talk to him more 234 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: about it when he comes on. 235 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're in love. So yes, stay tuned because 236 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: later this week we are going to talk to dot. Okay, 237 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: let's jump into the group date in the woods. 238 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: What did you think of this date? 239 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Well, the first thing I noticed was Charity's wearing a 240 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: down jacket a hat. I'm like, how cold is it? 241 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: And I know it gets hold on the West coast, 242 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: and then half the guys are where are just like 243 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: longsleeve shirts. So that was the first thing I thought. 244 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: I was wondering that too, And also I'm impressed that 245 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: you notice that because all season you have not been 246 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: noticing the weather and the fashion in correlation with the weather. 247 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: So I'm surprised you picked up on that because I 248 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: literally was like, Moose Knuckle is sponsoring this episode, like 249 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: she's been wearing some killer Moose Knuckle jackets. And Braiden 250 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: isn't a long sleep buttoner. But even the guys that 251 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: were like Braiden's underdress like he's trying to show off. 252 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're only in a long sleep in a vest, 253 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: like you have one extra layer, like you gotta be cold. 254 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: And Braiden's also he's not just wearing a railer button out. 255 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: It looks like a flannel, which they're usually warmer. 256 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: But really I thought it was like a dnim shirt. 257 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: But anyways, I I I like like that date. I 258 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: would have much I would have much more fun like 259 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: foraging for mushrooms than I would bungee jumping. Like I 260 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: actually like the date, and we you know, they they 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: bring on the girl Scouts for for the comedic relief, 262 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: and we were actually seeing more of my sleeper in 263 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: the top four. Who is Tanner Who's doing We're starting 264 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: to see more his personality in his interviews, and I 265 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: will say that Brandon him this was the first time. 266 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: He may be extremely anxious when he was eating the 267 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: random shit he was forging. That's just solid. Yeah, crazy 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: to me. 269 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm super happy we're seeing more of Tanner because he 270 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: was giving some really good interviews this episode that were 271 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: making me laugh. But I feel like we're seeing that 272 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: like contrast between Aaron B and Braiden a lot and 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: on this date, Like AARONB is someone that's taken this 274 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: whole thing super seriously and like this date was so different, 275 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: like he took it really seriously. Braiden, on the other hand, 276 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: is taking almost nothing seriously and he's standing up there 277 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: eating these radishes that he's yanked out of the dirt, 278 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: Like eh, Braiden, like what are you doing? And Tanner 279 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: was killing me when he was like Braiden, do less man, 280 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: Like yeah, the goal of this dude was not to 281 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: eat the food. Like if I'm her, I'm like, I'm 282 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: not making out with you after that, Like you have 283 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: straight up dirt and bugs in your teeth. 284 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel like Aaron B and Braiden, their intentions and 285 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: the way they go about everything needs to just be 286 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: morphed into one. 287 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Because somewhere in the middle. 288 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron B. Takes everything wildly serious and Braiden doesn't 289 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: take anything serious. And it's like, if you guys just 290 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: just tamed it back just like two notches, he'd be great, 291 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Like it would be. 292 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, they're just two very extreme people, and I 293 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. I just think that's really 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: why they don't get along. I think that's a big 295 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: part of it. But did you catch the charity called 296 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Dumb? 297 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was. 298 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: So I like not to be be into Braiden, but 299 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: I just thought that was funny because she obviously likes Braiden, 300 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: but she was like just messing around with these like 301 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: little children. 302 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: And regardless of what people want to say about Braiden, 303 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: he definitely has a sense of humor. Like the guy 304 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: does have a personality. I just think he he just 305 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: needs to chill a little bit. But he would. 306 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Probably not eat unwashed vegetable. Well yeah in the forest, 307 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: like he's eating mushrooms like these could be poisonous, you 308 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 309 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also extremely dangerous. I'm surprised they even let 310 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: him do that, but so stressful. So Aaron B. She 311 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: ends up picking Aaron B. For the Kissing Tree have 312 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: like a nice makeup. I'm just not buying Charity and 313 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Aaron B on that. 314 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel like they have a 315 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: strong conc I really really did buy them after the 316 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: first day, and I do think there was a strong 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: connection there. I think it's just hard because we haven't 318 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: seen the progression of their relationship. Like I'm just waiting 319 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: to see someone on one time with them that like 320 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: really feels like they're connecting, and maybe they are and 321 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: we're just not seeing it, and we are just seeing 322 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: Aaron B talk about Braiden a lot. But it's hard 323 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: for me to like follow their love story and feel 324 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: like it's serious, Like their relationship is getting serious, do 325 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 326 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Undred percent? And I feel like watching it now, like 327 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: like it's hard to take Aaron B out of like 328 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: he because he kept calling himself her protector. So for me, 329 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to like it's almost like he's he's giving 330 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: me like older brother vibes, and it's just hard to 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: see like any any like true like romance in that. 332 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know, maybe it maybe as time goes on, 333 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: well we'll see that. 334 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: And like that can be like a romantic gesture to 335 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: other people, you know, like being protective over each other. 336 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: But it's just yes, she could be into that too. 337 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you right now. I think it 338 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: could change moving forward if we see like if they 339 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: get another one on one or something. But right now 340 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm also struggling to see like where their connection's at. 341 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we see so then Charity walks in 342 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: after the date, all the guys are sitting there, and 343 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: this is when she pulls Braiden and has that has 344 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: that one on to one time with Braiden. He talks 345 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: about I packed his he packed his bags twice and 346 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: at this point, like I've I'm and like I said, 347 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: like we have Braiden on this podcast. I like him, 348 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: but at this point, he just like he just can't 349 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: be there, Like he just doesn't he doesn't want to 350 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: be there. And he's clearly like I I'm not saying 351 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: that he's not into Charity, but clearly she's just not 352 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: the one for him because he's just like kind of 353 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: not willing to go through this process. 354 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think they did and like eat, like 355 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: I think they had a connection the whole time, but 356 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: it's not going to work because this process is not 357 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: easier and natural really for anyone. I would say, so 358 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: you have to be willing to like really try and 359 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: lean into it. And like I can relate to Braden 360 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: a little bit, like it felt super uncomfortable for me 361 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: at times, but like I had a connection with the 362 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: lead on my season, So you lean in and you 363 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: try to like see if that can go somewhere. And 364 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: I feel like he was just so resistant, and I 365 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: think it got to a point where she was also 366 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: just like this is not going to work for us here, 367 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: like you are not giving it you're all, And he 368 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: was like, I can't give it my all because this 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: is so weird for me, and it was just like 370 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: it was just not a fit. Like I think it's 371 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: for the best that they went their separate ways. 372 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's unfortunate too, because she expresses in her 373 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: interview like it's so aggravating, like he doesn't even know, 374 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: like he's he's one of the guys, like he's one 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: of the main guys I want here, and yeah, it's 376 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know when you're going down to the bit. 377 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: She really tried. I think she really tried to help 378 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: him to make it work because I think she was 379 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: into him, and I think this episode we really just 380 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: saw him reach his breaking point with all of it. 381 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Brandon leeves and we know once he leaves 382 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be It's. 383 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm surprised I thought that was it. I don't know why. 384 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: I really I really felt for his exit as a 385 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: permanent exit. 386 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I uh yeah, I mean probably me too. 387 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: But then, like, I don't know, I felt like we 388 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: saw certain things in like the up the season trailer 389 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: where I was like, I know he's coming back, that's true. 390 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: So then she goes back and now it's like, all 391 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: these guys are great. We got the music playing, the 392 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: music played with Joey's makeout, which makes me think that 393 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: a little relationship. 394 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Is a little more serious, and her and Joey are 395 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: very cute together. 396 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and regardless of Aaron b getting the kissing Tree, 397 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: Joey steals the rose. So Joey's up there right now 398 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: for me me too. 399 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: I think him and Dawton really shine this episode in 400 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: terms of chemistry and connection with charity. Yeah, I think 401 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: we could definitely say those two are going to top four. 402 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. Too, so that's kind 403 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: of it. Braden leaves, Joey gets the rose, and then 404 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this because another guy on my 405 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: top four a Xavier, gets the one on one date. 406 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: And I will say, I think going into this date, 407 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I think that Charity was potentially sending him home friend 408 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, I do, I think she I, well, 409 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: we see it too, because she says it multiple times, 410 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: like this guy reminds me so much of my ex Yes. 411 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: And I think and like I don't want to put 412 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: words in her mouth, but it felt like she was 413 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: basically being like he gives f boy energy, like he's 414 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: giving like I'm good looking, and like he's obviously like 415 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: a catch, like the dude is getting his pH D. 416 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: He knits he's good looking, like he's got the whole package. 417 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 2: He seems to have like some games, some swag. 418 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: Well, he was definitely like even when they were walking 419 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: through that market, he's definitely flirting with her a lot, 420 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: and like like I was almost at a poort where 421 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, exavior, like you're in already stop hitting on her, 422 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: like you don't. 423 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he ked like flirting with her and called her 424 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: like it was as if he was trying to pick 425 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: her up. 426 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. 427 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: It's a relationship, dude, it's okay. 428 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're good, You're good at this point, like 429 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: like take a step back. But yeah, And I think 430 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: she felt that too, for sure, because I think he 431 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: was he was done. In my opinion, he was going 432 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: home up until the dinner day. 433 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. I wonder, Yeah, I wonder because I 434 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: think considering she basically said like she had a really 435 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: bad experience with her ex, saying he reminds her of 436 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: her ex is not a good thing. Like I think 437 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: she's like, I don't know if I can get past this, 438 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: like even if he's not at all like my ex, 439 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: Like he reminds me of someone who I did not 440 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: have a good relationship with, and like that would be 441 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: very hard to get past for sure, for sure. 442 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: And then we see him open up more about himself, 443 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: his light, his job, his his mother was diagnosed with MS, 444 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: which is just so sad and you you just like I, 445 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: in my opinion, I felt like Charity finally like let 446 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: her guard down with Xavier during that during that time, 447 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think she's I think she really likes him. 448 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she likes him too. I think the 449 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: day portion it kind of looked like it was very 450 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: like fun and blurty, And I think the night portion 451 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: he really showed how much depth he has to him, 452 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Like he's clearly got a lot of love in his 453 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: heart for his family and the people in his life. 454 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: He seems compassionate. He like really opened up and was 455 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: honest with her and like kind of gave her that 456 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: reassurance that I feel like she needed to hear from 457 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: him to get past her hesitation. So I don't know, 458 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: I like him, like I'm I want to see more 459 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: of him because up until this point we haven't seen 460 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: a lot and I did enjoy watching him on the 461 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: one on one date, So yeah, hopefully we see more. 462 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: Too. Oh. 463 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: I want to point something out to you because I 464 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: noticed it, especially on her day with Xavier, and tell 465 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: me if you notice, and if not, your one hundred 466 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: percent going to notice it as you continue watching this 467 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: franchise this season. I feel like every lead, but specifically 468 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: Bachelorette always have like something they say, like Gabby's was yeah, 469 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: you know she was like yeah, yeah, charities is no way. 470 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: She said no way like seven times this episode, Like 471 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: anytime she just want to do something. She's like no way, 472 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: no way, like or she's excited, like that is her. 473 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: That's the girl's catchphrase. So like, take a look next 474 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 2: time we do our recap, I want to see if 475 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: you want if. 476 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: You see, yeah, now here now I'm want to notice 477 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: it for sure. I didn't know. 478 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: You can't once you notice it, Like once I noticed it, 479 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: which is at the beginning of the episode when they 480 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: went bungee jumping. Yeah, no way, this is not happening, 481 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: like that was what she was saying, and then going 482 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: through the rest of the episode, I couldn't not notice it. 483 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: But it's it's cute. I like it. I love when 484 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: they have like little catchphrases. 485 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay attention. So she's 486 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: so Xavier Joey, they're both looking good and then we 487 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: get to the cocktail party and what does she do. 488 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: She shows Dot and a baby photo of herself. 489 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: That's like, like, that's like just like the side of 490 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: like if I'm if I'm in this situation and I'm 491 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: Dot and the lead comes up to me and shows 492 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: me a baby photo of themselves, I'm like, I'm in. 493 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: I always think it's a telltale or a telltale. I 494 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: don't even know if that makes sense. I think it's 495 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: telling when the lead goes out of their way to 496 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: like do something special for one of the contestants, which 497 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: we've seen her do with Dot and like taking him 498 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: to like private areas to have conversations, and now she's 499 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: like bringing little pictures. I just think it makes even 500 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: more obvious that she's into him. 501 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And then we see her 502 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: she takes a little this is the first time we 503 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: actually see her like pull Tanner to the side and 504 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: he gets a little adventure, a little makeout session, and 505 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: then I. 506 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: Know Tanner's finally coming out of the woodworks. I feel 507 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: like we haven't seen him out all this season, and 508 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: he's like, seems like a great dude. I'm happy to 509 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: see more of him. 510 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he ends up with Charity. 511 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: I feel like he's definitely he's given me like a 512 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: guy that people will will go after and in Paradise, 513 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: I agree with. 514 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: That for sure. 515 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 516 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: Also, I feel like they were playing like the everything's 517 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: calm and happy music, Braiden's gone, We're all so happy, 518 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: Like this montage of chuted interactions. So I was like, Okay, 519 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 2: either something is gonna happen, there's gonna be a new 520 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: villain in the house, or this is the moment we're 521 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: gonna see Braiden again. 522 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Yep. And what happens. John b has is the nice guy, 523 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: he seems like the nicest guy in the house, is 524 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: having his conversation and watch Braiden. 525 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: Flipflops, like, Braiden, come on like a little if you're 526 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: gonna crush this cocktail party the. 527 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: Thing with him come But when he came back, I'm like, 528 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I hope you're here trying to stay because I want 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: to see it. I want to see it for good TV, 530 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: and I want to see what she says. Well yeah. Oh. Also, 531 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: her and John were making out, but Braiden didn't. Braiden 532 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: did wait till they were done making out. 533 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: Their reaction was incredible. It was so priceless, like he's 534 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: just standing in the room in the shadows while they're 535 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: making out. John sees him first, he's stunned, and then 536 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: Charity saw him, but it's like it didn't fully compute 537 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: right away who it was, and then she was like 538 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: oh oh, like oh my god. 539 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he but he doesn't really He just kind 540 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: of says, like, I'm sorry for the way I came off. 541 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: I was hoping that he was going to try to 542 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: stay and he is just kind of like, yeah, like 543 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the way I came off. This didn't 544 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: work for me, and I'm out again. 545 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: So I have mixed feelings about him coming back because 546 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: on one hand, I get that, like in the real world, 547 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: if you want to have another conversation for closure purposes, 548 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: like you have the freedom to do that, Like that's 549 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: not uncommon for people like after a breakup to like 550 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: have another conversation, I guess, But in this environment, like 551 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: if you're going to come back and interrupt her evening 552 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: with guys that she's still dating, you better have something 553 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: to say, Like you better be either trying to come 554 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: back or like have something that you like just can't 555 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: leave without not saying Like I feel like he basically 556 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: just wanted to like put a bow on their last conversation, 557 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: and I was kind of like, I don't know, if 558 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: I was Charity, I would be like this didn't really 559 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: need to be had, Like I think he wanted to 560 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: have the conversation, which I can sympathize with, but like 561 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: he had to expect it probably wasn't going to go 562 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: over great, especially with the guys. 563 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Charity handled it well. I think 564 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: the guys like they. 565 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there she was like, I'm like, it's not your fault. 566 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: She's like, I know, it's not my fault. 567 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of I mean, like the guys like 568 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: yelling at him when he was already on the bus 569 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: just was like whatever, Like and I know they're aggravated, 570 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: but it's kind of like, well, he's going, so what's 571 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: the point of it? Was for me? I did make 572 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: a note when all the guys were talking. Then he 573 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: leaves and all the guys are talking and John Be's like, guys, 574 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I want to get the first conversation. 575 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: And everyone's like yeah, yeah, no problem man, And then 576 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and walks Jesse Palmer. He's like, yeah, conversations are done, 577 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: let's go ceremony. 578 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: I felt bad for John b too, because he was 579 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: the one that got screwed over the most, Like he's 580 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: the one who got interrupted like mid makeout with her 581 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: by Braiden, So he was obviously the one who's like 582 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: I would like to have a conversation with Braiden like 583 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: it's kind of between me and him, like I'm the 584 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: only one that got really affected by this, and the 585 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: guys like yeah, yeah, no problem man. And then everyone 586 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: just like was bombarding Braiden to the point where John 587 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: was like, guys, come on, like this is my combo, 588 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Like they were not letting him speak, like everyone just 589 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: wanted to like let out their frustration on Braiden. Bradge 590 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: just sitting on the bus like I'm trying to go home. Also, 591 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: what the heck? It's usually like a black suv. He 592 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: wasn't a full blown party bus. 593 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the party. I was like, where did 594 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: this party of us come from? Like, why is seeing 595 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: a party bus? 596 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: It's huge? 597 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: I was like, how many people are in here? 598 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? That was yeah I found that interesting. Uh so 599 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: yeah then that's it. Really we we we ran. John 600 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: b really got just steamrolled. This episode wasn't the best 601 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: for him. He didn't get a rose, The cowboy guy 602 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: didn't get a rose. Michael from Chicago didn't get a rose. 603 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: All three guys are giving me paradise vibes. So I 604 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: can't see I think every single one of them will 605 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: be there and then then we see wee. Any thoughts 606 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: on the guys leaving or who left made sense? 607 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everything made sense. There wasn't any major surprises. 608 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if Tanner was going to stay or go. 609 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: He was the only one like I couldn't discuss Sean Sean. 610 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't think they had a super strong connection. I 611 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: think he thought they had a super strong connect. 612 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Sean's there still. 613 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: Wait, Oh why I think he went home? So I 614 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: thought he was going to go home and then he 615 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: did it. 616 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was not going to get the 617 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: rose and John B was and she went Sean over 618 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: John B. Which I feel it was. 619 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: John B, Michael and Caleb. I don't know why. I 620 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: just thought Sean was in that. Sorry Sean, if you're listening. 621 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Sean's uh like, I think she likes 622 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: I think she really likes Sean. She's she's keeping him around. 623 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 624 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: I think I think I think she likes him obviously 625 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: enough to keep him around. But I feel like, I 626 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: don't know if it's more friend vibes or just like 627 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: fun and flirty. 628 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Yet I think it's I think it's fun and flirty. 629 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: I think she just has has fun with them, and like, yeah, 630 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: it's probably hard too because a lot of the guys 631 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: are taking very serious, so he's kind of probably like 632 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air. 633 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: I feel like he's taking it really seriously. I feel 634 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: like I've heard multiple times and be like she's my wife. Wow, 635 00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: Sean what? 636 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? But he also he also just kind of gives 637 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: me like like he's he just comes across like he's 638 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of funny, Like I could just see her like 639 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: laughing and having fun with him. Yeah, they dropped the 640 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: They did drop the trailer for. 641 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: They dropped like the mid season promo though, like that 642 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: we're halfway through, like here's what's to come the rest 643 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: of the season. That's my favorite promo ever. I always 644 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: get so excited for mid season promos. 645 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: Did I fall for? Doesn't it seem like her ex 646 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: boyfriend comes back into the picture? Yeah? I just see 647 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: him now, Okay. 648 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: No, it does. But I don't know. They didn't give 649 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: any like hard evidence that that is who's coming back, 650 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: but like the way she's reacting makes it seem like 651 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: it's someone she doesn't want to see from her past. 652 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: It's probably just her brother. 653 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: I was literally gonna say that. I bet you it's 654 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: her brother. Like the music is just changing my whole 655 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: reception and it's literally just Neamyah. 656 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: Don't let the music from the trump from the episode 657 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: fool you. We fall for it. We fall for it 658 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: every time, all right. I think I think that could. 659 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I think we just recap the episode. I think that 660 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: wraps it. Anything you think we missed. 661 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, I can't believe there's 662 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: only so little guys left. I mean, what is there 663 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: seven now? 664 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that, which is crazy. 665 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: This season's flying by. 666 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well that is that is an episode. 667 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Make sure to subscribe if you're not already, because we 668 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: are dropping our exclusive interview with Dotton later this week 669 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: and we are going to hear more about his story later, 670 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: so please check it out. Yeah, bye bye