1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Jeff Kirkhin. And before we get started today, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: I want to answer a very important question that a 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of people who are part of our family, like 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: you are listening right now, always ask how can we 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: support the show more than just listening to it? 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: And I want to answer that for you. 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: You can subscribe wherever you're listening right now, then send 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the show to a friend. 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We are at the quarter mark 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: of the baseball season. We're just about forty games in Dad. 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: We're together in the basement studio, right. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: And the first forty games, the first quarter was unbelievable 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: as far as quirky, crazy things that happen, unpredictable things, 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: just a quick takeaway or two. The Nationally West is 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: great and it's going to be the Dodgers of the 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: best team, but it's going to be a four team 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: fistfight the rest of the year in that division. The 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Al Central is really good right now that the Tigers 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: have the best record in the league at the moment. 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: The Twins have won eight games in a row. The 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: Royals are red hot, and the Guardians are pretty darn good, 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: especially out of their bullpens. So those are two things 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to take away. Plus, the Yankees have played forty games 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: through Sunday and hit seventy homers. That's the most homers 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the Yankees have ever hit through forty games in any season. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: The Yankees, and of course Aaron Judge is on his 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: way towards another historic season. It's absolutely preposterous he has 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: done so far. 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Well, I know you have a lot of quarter season takeaways. 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: We want to dive into those, but we'd be remiss 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: if we didn't mention that this past Sunday was Mother's 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Day and my wife, Emily, we have a daughter McKinley, 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: will be to this August. 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: She wanted to go into. 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Our little village of skip Back, Pennsylvania, they had a 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: spring festival, so little tense. You were here for one 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: of those weakerds dat And we walked down and as 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: we're walking out of our neighborhood, we've got the stroller. 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I see a mom wearing a baseball jersey playing catch 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: with her son in the front yard on Mother's Day. 51 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: Well again, how beautiful was that? Jeff, That's what it's 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: all about. And again it reminds me a little bit 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: of Christian Royo, who we had on the show last year, 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: major league baseball player, and his mother threw him batting 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: practice until he was fourteen years old, unbelievable, and she 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: hit ground balls to him him when she was eight 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: months pregnant. So moms are so involved in the lives 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: of the children, it's unbelievable. My mother, of course, took us, 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: Nana took us to every baseball game, every basketball game, 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: everything we ever did. My mother was there for everything. 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: So we have a real, real warm spot in our 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: heart for moms. 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: So a happy belated Mother's Day. And I know we 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of moms that like to listen to 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the show. So thank you for all that you do, 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: because this show would not be possible without our mothers 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: and without our wives taking care of the kids, who we're. 68 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Doing this right right? And some other day notes from 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: Mother's Day in the Big leagues, William and Wilson Contreras 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: brothers both homeward Sunday on Mother's Day. It's only the 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: third time that's happened. The DiMaggio brothers Joe and Dom 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: did it, and the Giambi brothers Jason and Jeremy did it. 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: So the third set of brothers hit home runs on 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Mother's Day, and Jace Young and Josh Young of the 75 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Rangers played against each other and their mother, Mary Like 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: threw out the first ball at the game, and Josh 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: hit a home run. So for the first time since 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen, when Mother's Day became a national holiday type 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: of thing, this is the first time that a brother 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: homered in a game and his brother took part in 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: the same game. So that's what we saw yesterday. We 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: have and there's so many great Mother's Day And who 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: do we remember who we had on last year beyond 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Christian Arroyo, Casey Candells, And it's impossible to go through 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: Brother's Day without telling the Casey Kandell story. His mother, 86 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: Helen of course, played in the women's professional baseball league, 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: which inspired the movie A League of Their Own. Do 88 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: you remember in Casey Crying in baseball? Do you remember 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: a Casey Kandell story? Remember, Remember he told us my. 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Favorite story was when they said she couldn't play in. 91 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: The father son softball league anymore. Right, it was right 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: because she that's what Casey told me. She said he 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: was she was barred from the mother daughter father son 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: softball game at school because she was too good. And 95 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: remember what he told us last year on the interview, 96 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: which I didn't know, is that Helen Kandell, like he 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: in first time she saw Casey play in the big league. 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: She picked up his bat and said, this bad is 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: way too late. You. You need to use a bigger path. 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: This is what his mother told you, and I always 101 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: leave it. I always loved this one too. Mark Reynolds 102 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: really good major league player, two hundred ninety nine homers, 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: great defensive third baseman. His mother is like the greatest 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: baseball fan in the world. In other words, she understands 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: what she's watching like better than any mob that she'll 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: ever meet. So he told me once that one day 107 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: called his mother and his mother asked him on the phone, 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: how did you miss that two oh slider last night? 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: And Mark had to say, Bob, it's not that easy 110 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: to do that. So again, Happy Mother's Day on Sunday 111 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: to all of our bombs. You make the game go, 112 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: you make our lives go. 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Now, obviously we've had a lot of games since our 114 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: last episode as well this past Thursday. So any other takeaways, 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a lot that you want to 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: dive into. 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the poor Rockies. I hate to lead with this, 118 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: but there's no other way around it. Through Sunday they 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: were seven and thirty three. So only one team in 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: Major League history has gotten to the forty game mark, 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: the quarter mark with fewer victories than the Rockies this year, 122 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: and that was the Orioles in nineteen eighty eight, who 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: were six and thirty four, and who covered that team 124 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: every day. You twenty one games in a row and 125 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: they were still they got to six and thirty four. 126 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: The Rockies have had three eight, They've had a bunch 127 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: of eight game losing streaks. They're seven and thirty three. 128 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: They fired their manager, Bud Black. Do not blame him 129 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: for this spectacular failure on every level with the poor Rockies, Jeff. 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: They set eight. They became the first team ever to 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: give up eight runs in a game. Try to follow 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: me here. And then the next four games they gave 133 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: up an increasing run number in each of the next 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: four games after giving up eight. So they gave up 135 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: eight in a game, then they gave up ten, Then 136 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: they gave up eleven, and then they gave up thirteen, 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: and then they gave up twenty one in consecutive games. Jeff. 138 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: In a four game span, they gave up fifty five runs. 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Here's the crazy part. My wife Emily Dad. I'm out 140 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: playing on the play set in the backyard and she goes, hey, 141 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, like they get you know, time to 142 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: dinner or something, you know something, get off that or whatever. 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: She just did you hear the Rockets fifty one runs 144 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: in five games. Then she goes, they've fired their manager, 145 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: just shouting this. 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: And I've never been more flattered that my wife Emily 147 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: would take so much interest in that. And I also 148 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: got a text from my friend Andrew. Andrew is the 149 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: dad of a little girl that Emily used to watch 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: usin nanny for when we lived in Las Vegas. He 151 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: loves the podcast by the way, shout out Andrew Patterson, 152 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: and he sent me and said, now this is a 153 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: football score because they lost twenty one to zero, right. 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: And the last time we had a twenty one to 155 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: nothing game in the NFL was six years ago. And 156 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: remember we had a fourteen to nothing game this year 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: in the major leagues and that was the first and 158 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: the last time that happened in an NFL game was 159 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. So twenty one to nothing happens 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: more often, apparently in baseball than it does in football, 161 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: which is just amazing, Jeff. Just to finish with the 162 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: poor Rockies, so Max Freed through at the quarter pole 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: of the Yankees had six wins, six and zero. The 164 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: Rockies had seven. So Max Reed had almost as many 165 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: wins as a team at the quarter pole of the season. 166 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: That's not a healthy thing, no, And he has been unbelievable. 167 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just talk about an offseason move to change 168 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: the dynamic of a starting rotation really good. 169 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: And as I've told you many times, anagram from Max 170 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: Reed dream fix and for almost single handedly, he has 171 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: fixed a starting rotation that has been really banged up 172 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: with injuries. So, Jeff, I did you tell Boonie that 173 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: did you text him that? 174 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: No, I mean, he's the manager of the Yankees, but 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: he's your friend, right Well, probably already knew that, although 176 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: I might have told him that along the way. 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: He said, all right, Tim, thanks a lot. 178 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I got to go manage the most expensive franchise in 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: history and totally understand. 180 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: All right. So Jeff had a really good, feel good story. 181 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: The other day, I did the game with Dave Jaggler 182 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, the Pirates against the Braves, and as we know, 183 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: the Pirates are struggling mightily, and they fired their manager, 184 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Derek Shelton and replaced him with Don Kelly. And Don 185 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Kelly on Friday night won his major League debut as 186 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: a manager. And again the Pirates haven't won very many games. 187 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: But Don Kelly grew up in Mount Lebanon, Pennsylvania, twelve 188 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: minutes from PNC Park. He went to Point Park College, 189 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: which is five minutes from PNC Park. You can see 190 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: the college from the unbelievably high press box at PNC Park. 191 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: He was the bench coach for the Pirates the last 192 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: six years he played for the Pirates, and now he's 193 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: the manager of the Pirates. So he gets his first victory. 194 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: They already laminate the scorecard very cool, and he's going 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: to put it up at a special place. So I 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: asked him, I said, and they won three to two 197 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: at a very you know, nail bier type of game. 198 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: So I said, did you drive home alone after the game? 199 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: You know, maybe what were you thinking as you're driving 200 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: home alone after just winning a game, your first managerial 201 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: game in your hometown all this, and he goes, no, 202 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: my sixteen year old son, who just got his learner's permit, 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: drove the car hold from my first major league victory. 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: So Dave asked him at our little meeting, I said, 205 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: were you more nervous like trying to hold on to 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: a three to two lead in the ninth inning, or 207 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: were you more nervous that your son, who just got 208 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: his learner's permit was driving you home. He said, it 209 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: was equal nerves, believe me. 210 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: So then probably took the height of the nerves of 211 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: the moment away from him, which is good. 212 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: So then the next day, his ten year old son 213 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: has a little league game at eight in the morning. 214 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: So Don Kelly is able to go to his son's 215 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: little league game and his ten year old goes three 216 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: for three and Don Kelly goes, it's been quite a 217 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: forty eight hours for me. Like he gets named the manager, 218 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: he wins a game, his son drives the car home 219 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: of the learner's permit, another son goes three for three 220 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: in the morning, and then in the game that we covered, 221 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: he got ejected from the game for arguing balls and strikes. 222 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: So we looked and we looked and we looked, and 223 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: we couldn't find anyone back at least to nineteen eighty 224 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: a manager who was ejected in his second career game 225 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: as a manager. I'm sure it's happened. Maybe someone got 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: ejected in the first game, but it's really really hard 227 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: to check. But that's what happened to Don Kelly. That 228 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: was his first day basically as a manager in the 229 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: Major league, and he won two of those three games. 230 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: They won on Sunday. So the first series he did 231 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: against the Atlanta Braves, a good team, they won two 232 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: out of three. It's pretty good. It is incredible. 233 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: And the point you're leaving out right now is after 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: getting ejected, his ten year old drove him home, which 235 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: was a whole other buncheoner right right. 236 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: I last think Trek Scooblo the Tigers is just ridiculous. 237 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: He has a six start stretch down which he's walked 238 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: one and struck out fur And I asked Frank from 239 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: the Elias, when's the last time that any pitcher has 240 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: had one walk and fifty strikeouts during a six year 241 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: six start period, And believe or not, three guys did 242 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty one. I remember all three of them. 243 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: I should have remember. Garrett Cole, Corbyn Burns, and Jacob 244 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: de Gram all had fifty or more strikeouts and less 245 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: than two walks in a six start stretch. But Scooble 246 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: is the only one to have an ERA under one 247 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: in those six starts. So he's the only major league 248 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: pitcher ever to have a six start stretch one walk, 249 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: fifty strikeouts RA under one. That's how good Trek Scuble 250 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: has been this year. All right, Dad, let's jump right 251 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: into the cortchins, right. So, Jorges Solaer of the Angels 252 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: recently had a three run walk off double, which is 253 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: very unusual. But Joe Adell of the Angels also had 254 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: one earlier this year, and so two guys on the 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: same team before we even got to Memorial Day has 256 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: done this. So I called Frank from the Elias to 257 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: figure out the last time that this has happened twice 258 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: in a season, especially to one team. 259 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: No no no, I called Frank from the Alias. In fact, 260 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: so many people have been wondering who. 261 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: Is this character on our show? And so we called 262 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: literally Frank from the Elias. It's on? Is this a 263 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: great game of what? 264 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: Hey Frank, Hey guys, how are you good? 265 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: Frank? So as you do so often help me. I 266 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: have a curious question, and I can look up a 267 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: lot of stuff myself, but when it comes to really 268 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: tricky stuff, the only people to call are the people 269 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: at the Elias. Look, all my best friends of the 270 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: world work for or have worked for the Elias, Seymore, Siwov, 271 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,239 Speaker 2: all the Hurt Boys, and now Frank and his two brothers, 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: John and Santo also worked for the Elias. So Frank, 273 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: let's start with give us the answer to my query 274 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: about Jorge Solaire and Joe Adell. 275 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Well. 276 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: I uh, first, I looked for the last time it happened, 277 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: thinking maybe it was a you know, it's been a while, 278 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: but it actually happened last year. Tim, You and I 279 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: know a lot of times questions you asked. You say, oh, 280 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: when's the last time this happened, And I'm like, whoa, it. 281 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: Happened four days ago. So but I saw it happened 282 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: last year. I was like, oh, here we go. 283 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, But then I remember you saying, you know, because 284 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: two for the same team, which by the way, has 285 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: never happened. So then I said, huh so one, how 286 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: many times it happens twice in a year, just for 287 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: all teams? And nineteen ninety nine was the last time 288 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: it happened. 289 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: Brian Daubach did it for the Red Sox and Mark 290 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: mcklamore for the Texas Rangers. 291 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: So it happened twice that year, not for the same team. 292 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: Not for the same team. That has never happened. 293 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: Twice for the same team. The Angels are the only 294 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: team ever to do this in the same season, and 295 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: they did it in like the first six weeks of 296 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: the sense crazy. That's why we call Frank at the 297 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: ellis So Frank just tell us you know what do 298 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: you you know, what is your job like every day 299 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: and explain how you got into this. 300 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: Well, it literally is every day. As you know, Tim right. 301 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: Call every day He's like, sorry, Frank, I know you're 302 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: having dinner with family, but I need to melt. 303 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: It's it's literally every day. I don't think there was 304 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: a because we do more than just baseball, so it is. 305 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: It is a three hundred and sixty five day type 306 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: of job, right. Holidays weekends are probably even more, even 307 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: more busy than just the regular so like a Christmas 308 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: Day is more busy than a Monday. 309 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Right, So it's a little it's a little it's a. 310 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: Little crazy in that sense. But you know, just just 311 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: continuously I have I'm very curious about sports history, right, 312 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: I always have been. My curiosity always stemmed what was 313 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: the Yankees? You know, I know a lot historically, more 314 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: about the Yankees than I do any other team, but 315 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: just in general just knowing things that have happened so 316 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: many years ago. I mean, baseball's one hundred and fifty 317 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: years baseball has been around, which is it's unbelievable when 318 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: you think about how different the world was, I mean 319 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 4: ten years ago, let alone one hundred and fifty years ago. 320 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: So that's always sparked my interest on how how interesting 321 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: it was when you find something that happens today it's 322 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, and then you say, wow, that hasn't 323 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: happened since I don't know, nineteen twenty seven, and it's 324 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 4: just to me, it's just it's like mind boggling. So 325 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: it's been a one hundred years that this thing hasn't happened. 326 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: It's just crazy. 327 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: And that's what fascinates me the most. When I asked 328 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: Frank a question. You know that we played well over 329 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand Major League games, but that game has 330 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: never happened before, or what the Angels did has never 331 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: been done by a team ever in one hundred and 332 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: fifty years. To Frank, your two brothers, John and Santo 333 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: are also with the Elive Sports Bureau and have been 334 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: for four decades. Like you had, what was your house 335 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: like growing up? Was it a was it a gigantic 336 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: trivia game every day with sports? Explain what it was like. 337 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: I think my parents would have wished it was a 338 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: trivia game for sports. My house was more like a 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: wrecking ball for sports. 340 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: Just the days of me and my brother's in the 341 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: basement just demolishing. You know, we used to play hockey 342 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: this now we had. The ceiling in my basement was 343 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: maybe six feet high. Well maybe maybe not even five 344 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: feet high, just doing playing hockey, scoring a goal and 345 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: raising your arms and putting the stick through the ceiling 346 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: and just just crazy, crazy stuff went on in that basement. 347 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: So I think it was more that than than statistics. 348 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: Although I know my brothers used to play game with 349 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: like playing cards, like sort of like recreating that's sort 350 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: of stratumatic, but not exactly like that. It's sort of 351 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: like our own version of a game that all of 352 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: us played, which is which is interesting with baseball cards 353 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: and like a deck of playing cards to you know, 354 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: recreate the lineups. So that's that, I guess was one 355 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: of the things that that we had from a statistical 356 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: standpoint for sure. 357 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I know we were in Syracuse a couple of weeks 358 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: ago we interviewed coach Beheim and Frank from the Alliance. 359 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: If I may call you by your full name there 360 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: the middle name from the Of course. 361 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: We have a familiar relationship here. 362 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: Your niece and I graduated the same year at Syracuse University. 363 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? I saw your brother John and 364 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: a couple of functions at Syracuse bringing his daughter and 365 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: taking her home. It was amazing, same. 366 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: Crazy that's I think that's that's wild. And then here, 367 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: then here we are. You and I back in the 368 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 4: old Baseball Tonight days used to work together. Santoy used 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: to go there too, I think yeah, And that was 370 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: what probably twenty years ago, maybe even more than twenty 371 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: years ago. 372 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: So the Elias used to send a guy to Baseball 373 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Tonight five nights week and he would sit in there. 374 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: So when we had a question, we just had to 375 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: walk across the hall and there was the Elias with 376 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: all their computers. It was. It was the greatest setup ever. 377 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: And I kid a lot, but I do. I call 378 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: the Elias all the time. They are the official scorekeepers 379 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: of all the major sports, and I can look up 380 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff on my own, but in the 381 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: end I have to fact check it and make sure 382 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: it's right. And that's why we go to Frank, because 383 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: he and John and Santo and the rest of them 384 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: are going to get it right no matter what. 385 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Have you refacted? We facted check each other. 386 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: I mean, you know that would be too safe because 387 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: you don't want to get something out. You know, you 388 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: don't want to be wrong, right like when you're out there. Sure, 389 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: absolutely we'll find it. That's the one thing, one thing 390 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: different about today than maybe even twenty years ago. Right, 391 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: if you're wrong, someone will fly fine. 392 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: Right Sure, Well, Frank, I'm really glad we could have 393 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: you join the show. We can squash the beef I 394 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: have with you because as his son and podcast co host, 395 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I was getting jealous because he seems to. 396 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: Speak to you more than he speaks to me, and 397 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: I call him three times a day, I speak more 398 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: than I speak to my mother. So right, thanks for 399 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: being such a good sport. Thank you for joining us today. 400 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: Say hi to John, say hi to Santo's day out. 401 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: To the rest of them, we'll see soon. 402 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, thanks yuys Dad. 403 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: When I say the amount of people that wanted Frank 404 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: from the Alias on this show, I'm getting inundated with 405 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: comments and DMS and messages. 406 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: So another thank. 407 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: You to Frank from the Alias, a bit of a 408 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: legend on this show for joining us for our quark gins. 409 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: We have more quark gins that we want to jump into. 410 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: That right, and speaking of the Braves, they just win 411 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: sixteen games without an error from an infie, which I 412 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: keep telling you, Jeff, it's breathtaking how skillful and athletic 413 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: our baseball players are these days when you go sixteen 414 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: games without an error from an infielder and that streak 415 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: was broken on Saturday, the game that I did not 416 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: the point, so I checked it out. The Braves had 417 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: two sixteen game streaks last year without an error from 418 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: an infielder, and the Rangers had a thirty two game 419 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: streak last year without an error from the infielder. Does 420 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: that sound like a lot to you? It does. 421 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: But I also wonder if there's anybody, whether it's the 422 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: bench coach or the manager or anybody, who's tracking this, 423 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: because I'd be telling my team every day way to go? 424 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: Or is it unspoken like a no. 425 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: Can't say it's just unspoken, all right. So Brett Wisely 426 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: of the Giants the other day recently had a game 427 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: in which he had two sacrifice bunts and two RBIs 428 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: in the same game. So he's the first Giant to 429 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: have two sack buns, which we don't have sack bunts 430 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: anymore these days, JEB and two RBIs in the same game. 431 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: The last Giant to do that was Robbie Thompson in 432 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six. And the interesting part of it is 433 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: the guy who was hitting before Robbie Thompson. In the 434 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: order for that game was Bob Melvin, who is now 435 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: the manager of the San Francisco Giants, so he was 436 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: at both of the Giants games in which this happened, 437 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: one as a player in nineteen eighty six and now 438 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five as the manager of the team. 439 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: You know you brought up sacrifices, Dad, and you and 440 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I got in exchange over the phone last week, and 441 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring this forth because I was 442 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: watching the Phillies game right I live outside Philadelphia, That's 443 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: where our studio is, too, so I tend to watch 444 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: those games on my local channels. And Bryson stats on second, 445 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Trey Turner hits a fly ball to center field, sacrifices 446 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: him to third base, not really a sacrifice fly, doesn't 447 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: count as a sacrifice fly. 448 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: But then on the next to beat Bryce Harper flyball to. 449 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: Center field, since Scott stores scores on a sacrifice fly 450 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: by definition. And I was talking to you while this happened, 451 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: and I said, Dan, I feel like in this instance, 452 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: Trey Turner should be awarded a sacrifice fly because he 453 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: moved him into a position in which he was able 454 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: to score on the next play. 455 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: Now, Jeff, briefly, in major league history, you would get 456 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: a sacrifice fly no time at bad for advancing a 457 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: runner from second to third. Didn't last for very long 458 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: in the big leagues, but there was a period where 459 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: that happened. But I'm going to disagree with you on this, Jeff, 460 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: because if you hit a weak round ball to the 461 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: second baseman and advance the runner from second to third, 462 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: which is your job, then you need to get a 463 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: sacrifice for that. Also because you were trying to do that. 464 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: I don't think Trey Turner was trying to hit a 465 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: deep fly out there and move him around. Even though 466 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: it was very effective, it's a productive out, but you 467 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: should not You should get a time at bat for 468 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 2: that because you were trying to get a hit, not 469 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: just hit a fly ball to advance a round. 470 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: My only argument would be, is you score it at 471 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: the end of the innings. 472 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Right, Well, you can't do the predestined hit kind of 473 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: thing and say, well you do that with earned runs. Well, 474 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: that's a different story. Well, I mean all that's. 475 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't make this up if it wasn't already established 476 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: With earned runs, official scorers have to determine would a 477 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: runner have scored on the incident of the error or 478 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: on the incident of the hit that came later. 479 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: So okay, all right, Jef very Well said, you're acting. 480 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Where have you've been covering this game for forty five 481 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: years or something? 482 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: And I was an official scorer. Yeah, it's tricky. Okay. 483 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: A couple other things. So we talked about the twenty 484 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: one to nothing game. All right, Stephen Kolak pitched a 485 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: shutout in the twenty one to nothing game, and Jeff, sorry, 486 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: it's a shutout. It's not a complete game shutout. That 487 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: is redundant. So the last pitcher to pitch a shutout 488 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: in a twenty one to nothing game was Red Roughing 489 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in nineteen thirty nine, but he only 490 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: went eight innings because the game ended after eight innings. 491 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: Did they have a mercy rule back then? No, it 492 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: was a range situation, I believe. So the last pitcher 493 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: to have it to pitch a shutout in a twenty 494 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: one to nothing game was a guy named Silver King 495 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: in eighty nine. That would be eighteen eighty nine. So 496 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: what Stephen Kolak did in a twenty one to nothing 497 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: game hasn't been done since eighteen eighty nine. 498 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable and Silver King could make it on Team 499 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: Tim for both the Olympic Team and the Royal Team 500 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: and the All Color Team show the All Deck of 501 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: Cards team. 502 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Team Tim, Jeff the game on Saturday. 503 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: I got such a big kick out of this, and 504 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: I know it's unhealthy for me to get such a 505 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: big kick out of this, but I came up with 506 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: the all unfortunate name for a pitcher. I came up 507 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: with a ten man staff because Bailey Falter hitch for 508 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: the Pirates on Friday Night and pitch exceptionally well to 509 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: win Don Kelly's major league debut as a manager Bailey 510 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: Falter on Saturday. The winning pitcher was Scott Blewett, b 511 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: l U E. T T and Aaron Bummer also pitched 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: on Friday night for the Braves, and one of the 513 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: guys broadcasting the game was Bob walk So all four 514 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: of those guys are on the unfortunate name for a 515 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: pitcher pitching staff that I came up with, and four 516 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: of them were in the ballpark at the same time 517 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: the rest of the team. Do you want to hear 518 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: the rest of. 519 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: The team do I just I'm just shocked that all 520 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: three of those guys were involved in the same scenes. 521 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: So that was kind of the point of this list. 522 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking around going, oh my gosh, Okay, so Bailey 523 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Falters one starter of course, Homer Bailey giving up a homer, right, 524 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: Bob walk who we mentioned, Walker Buehler, And a few 525 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: years ago the Angels called up a pitcher named Jansen 526 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Junk j u n k Ewen Junk, John Junk, Scott 527 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: blew It, who we mentioned, Aaron Bummer who we mentioned. 528 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: The Twins have a really good reliever, Griffin Jacks. Yeah, 529 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: like Homers right nineteen in the early nineteen hundreds, a 530 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: guy named Bruce hit h TT pitch give up a 531 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: hit and this is the biggest stretch Grant Balfour pitch 532 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: for years in the Big League b A lfou R. 533 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: So I went to Scott blew It, who by the way, 534 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: is a good pitcher on and the day I talked 535 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: to him Saturday, he had been with three teams this year, 536 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: and he had been with three teams by like May 537 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: the seventh. He had been moving around like released, traded 538 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: everything else. So but of course naturally. I asked him 539 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: about his last name, blew It, and he's a baseball player, 540 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: so I said, Scott, I said, how when how often 541 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: does the name blew It come up in conversation with 542 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: people with the odd last name that you have? He goes, 543 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: I said, every day, he goes, almost every day. I said, 544 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: when did the jokes start about your name? And he 545 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: said the jokes started rolling in in kindergarten? So he 546 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: was five years old and here it is almost twenty 547 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: five years later, and almost every day somebody makes mention 548 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: of his last name, Scott Blewett. But I need to 549 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: repeat yet. He's a good major league pitcher and he's 550 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: been very important to the Braves since they acquired him. 551 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: You know, this is not the same but similar. 552 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: I was with my neighbors over the weekend and we 553 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: all live on Inspiration is the street we live on, 554 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: and I asked them, I've lived here two and a 555 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: half years going on three, and they're all original owners 556 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. They moved in right, and I said, 557 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: do people ever comment on our street? And before I 558 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: could finish this, every time, every time some representative, Oh, 559 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: it's very nice, because we also have like serendipity and 560 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: serenity and all these really calming names in the neighborhood. 561 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: And we're inspiration. And before I can finish all the time, 562 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: we get commented on our street names. 563 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: And how about your boy Justin Doe with Justin Doe 564 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: grew up on Dolane. So one of your elementary school buddies. 565 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: His last name is Doe and he lived on Dolane 566 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: And now he makes a lot of dough because he's 567 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: a dentist. That's a true story. Shout out Justin Doe. 568 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: What's up, dude? Way to go. Okay, Jeff, This date 569 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: in baseball history, Yeah, this is a big one. 570 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: We go back in time and now doing three episodes 571 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: a week. Remember, we can give you more of this 572 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: states in Baseball history wherever you are right now. Take 573 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: a quick second, subscribe wherever you're listening, and share this 574 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: with a friend so that we can explore and expand. 575 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: What we get to do three times a week with you. Okay, 576 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: what do you, Jeff? On this date in nineteen forty two, 577 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Jim Tobin Picture hit three home runs in one game. 578 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: He remains the only picture to hit three home runs 579 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: in one game. Have you ever heard of him. Do 580 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: you think more pitchers would have hit three? 581 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 5: Are you? 582 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: Are you shocked that even one hit three. 583 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm shocked that anyone hit two, to be completely honest, 584 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: because pitchers one don't hit anymore. Two are not known 585 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: for being great hitters. But three, if I'm not mistaken, 586 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you told me that David Ortiz, in his illustrious home 587 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: run hitting Hall of Fame career, never hit three home 588 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: runs in a game. 589 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: And I think, if I remember, Gary Sheffield didn't do 590 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: it either. There was one other name, yes, Rafael Palmer. 591 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: All three of those guys hit five hundred career homers, 592 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: and none of the three ever hit three in a game. 593 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: But Jim Tobin, a pitcher, hit three in one game. 594 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: And the night before that game he hit a home 595 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: run as a pinch hitter. So a pitcher actually hit 596 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: a home run in four consecutive at bats. And I'm told, 597 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: if I remember this correctly, he hit a ball like 598 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: to the warning track. So a pitcher came close to 599 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: hitting four homers in one game. How about that? I 600 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: think he missed his calling, yes, but he was a 601 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: good pitcher too. 602 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: He should have pulled a reverse Steve Sparks right instead 603 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: of trying out to be an infielder and becoming a pitcher. 604 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: Where's the infielder live right field practice? Our happy birthday 605 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: this week is to Bobby Valentine, who turned seventy five 606 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: years old today. Bobby is one of my great mentors 607 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: in the game. I was the beat writer for the 608 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News when Bobby made his managerial debut, and 609 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: the stuff that he taught me along the way I 610 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: will never forget. And remember he was a guest on 611 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: our podcast last year. He made us laugh uproariously loud, 612 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: especially Jeff. What made you laugh the most when he 613 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: was talking about on what he was talking about last year? Well, 614 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked, because I brought a clip. 615 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh good, We're gonna go to the clip of a 616 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: moment when he was not a manager, but he learned 617 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: from a manager of. 618 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: A little bit of a slip up. Let's go to 619 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: the clip. 620 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Welcome home dinner. This is a big deal. We're 621 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 5: in We're playing the Freeway Series out against the Angels, 622 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: and the Angels and the Dodgers would have this breakfast 623 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 5: together to welcome both teams back from spring training before 624 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: the season would start. And the managers from the respected 625 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: teams would get up and introduce the players, and two years, 626 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 5: not one year, two years consecutively, seventy one. At seventy two, 627 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: as I made the team, Walt introduced me as Billy Valleno, 628 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: and one Danny Osdark, who was a spectacular guy who's 629 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: the third base coach of the team, said, don't worry. 630 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: I told him it's Bobby And I said, yeah, Well, 631 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: what the heck did he say? 632 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 3: What did he say? 633 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 5: He says, well, we got a lot of billies, what's 634 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: one more? And what's the big deal with one more? 635 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's how I was introduced twice, and he 636 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: always called me Billy. 637 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: Including in the elevator that day, right. 638 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: Tell that Philadelphia. My mom and dad drives down to 639 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: the game. It's a big deal for my dad to 640 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 5: leave Stamford get out of it. And he drives down 641 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: with my uncle Mike sitting check at the wheel, making 642 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 5: sure that he can get to Philadelphia. He gets in, 643 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 5: we check in at the same time. We get on 644 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 5: the elevator at the same time, and he gets on 645 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 5: and I said, oh, skip. 646 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 2: What was with my mom and dad? 647 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 5: They said, this is my mom and dad, and he 648 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: kind of nodded. He was smoking his cigarette in the elevator. 649 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 5: He was okay at that time, but he smoked a 650 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: cigarette all the time. Okay, and he blew out the 651 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 5: puppa's moment is okay, Billy there. I'm gonna tell you 652 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: my dad was five to seven, what was like six three? 653 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 5: My dad wanted to chase them down the hallway. He 654 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: wanted to chase them down. I'll tell it you because 655 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: I said, he probably doesn't know my name dad. 656 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those. 657 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Things, you know, it's I'm thirty one years old. 658 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Then I always wanted to say I brought a clip 659 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: like they do it like Johnny Carson late night. 660 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: You know there, we actually have a clip, right. And 661 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: I talked to Bobby the other day, and he again, 662 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: every time I talked to him, I learned something. So 663 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: we were talking just basically about the strikeout rate in 664 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: the big leagues, how high it is and how great 665 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: the pitching is. The stuff is ridiculous. But he was 666 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: telling me that, you know, he saw a game the 667 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: other night where somebody took three pitches, had three pitches 668 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: in the bat, took all three and struck out on 669 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 2: three pitches without swinging the bat, and Bobby looks. Bobby 670 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: tells me, he goes back when I played. And again, 671 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: Bobby's not an angry, bitter guy. He loves today's players 672 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: all that, But he said, back when I played late sixties, 673 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: mostly in the seventies, he said, if you went to 674 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: the plate and they threw you three pitches and you 675 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 2: didn't swing at any of them and you struck out, 676 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: they would sometimes take you out of the game. I 677 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: mean that's the way the game was played back then. 678 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 2: The manager would look at you and go, what are 679 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: you doing? But in today's game, as guys look for 680 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: a pitch to drive and see three pitches that maybe 681 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: they can't hit anyway, sometimes you see a guy take 682 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: three pitches, strikeout without swinging, and walk back to the play. Dad. 683 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: I it's my understanding that you have a team tim 684 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: for us today. 685 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 5: Right. 686 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: Well, what was the other really big news of the week, Jeff, Well, 687 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean if this would have been on Thursday of 688 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: last week, so after our last podcast had published, the 689 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Catholic Church has a new pope. 690 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking about? That's it? And Jeff, 691 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: we're going to be careful with this. We're deeply respectful 692 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: of the Pope with the Catholic religion. But Pope Leo 693 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: is American born, yep. And apparently he's a big baseball 694 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: fan and he went to Villanova. Dad, get this, This 695 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: is true, honest to God. 696 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: Researched in two thousand and five, the Chicago White Sox 697 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: are playing in the World Series. 698 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: And yes, and they won the World Series. And there 699 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: is video evidence. 700 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: This is not a joke of Pope Leo shot on 701 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: the broadcast of the World Series. They did a bump 702 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: shot to the crowd like they do, and there's the Pope, 703 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: not the Pope yet, but the Pope. And Dad, this 704 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: is confirmed with facial recognition and everything. And he is 705 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: dressed just like any other fan. What are the chances, Dad, 706 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: think about that one that he'd be at the game. 707 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: Two that some cameraman put it on the It was 708 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: divine intervention to pick this random fan. 709 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: That And I saw the picture and he's wearing a 710 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: White Sox jersey, and I thought it was the greatest 711 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: thing ever. So that's why we're going to do the 712 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: all Pope team. 713 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Well, you know, also, did you know that he used 714 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: to play for the Cardinals. Well, yeah, he also played 715 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: for the Padres. 716 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm really starting to worry about you. I think 717 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 2: I've contaminated your mind to the point where you're starting 718 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: to think like me. All right, that's very good, Jeff. 719 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: Here is the All Pope team. All right. We're starting 720 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: with our catcher, Christian Vasquez perfect, Deacon Deacon Jones at first, 721 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: Max Bishop at second, Harry Lord at third, perfect. Leo 722 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: Durocher is the shortstop. Also on our all out Leo Leo. 723 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: Our first outfielder is David Pope. So we will hit 724 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: David Pope lead off in the game and Leo Durocher second, 725 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: So we'll go Hope Leo. Ryan Church is an outfielder. 726 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: Jesus salute. Dan Patrick's favorite player is an outfielder. And 727 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: speaking of Cardinal Conrad Cardinal is one of our pictures, 728 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: along with Eddie Priest, current pitcher Bryce Elder, and the 729 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: stretch of the show, Rome Chambers pitched. 730 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: The great No, I don't think that's a stretch at all. Now, 731 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: if you had Billy Conclave. 732 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: Right, I believe me, Jeff, I was looking for a 733 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: con and a clave and I just couldn't come up 734 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: with it. But I uh, Jeff, it's really sad pathetic 735 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 2: that your sixty eight year old dad would spend time 736 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: coming up with the all Pope team all for just 737 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: respectful laughs, because he's Pope Leo is a baseball fan. 738 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: We are going to have to start up our segment. 739 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: It's in the cards again, did you hear I'm not kidding. 740 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: This is not a bit tops released a Pope Leo card. No, 741 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I handed god, wow, probably probably not. 742 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 4: Right. 743 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they released a Pope Leo card and they. 744 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: Did it with everything else, so you know how they 745 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: come in different fractions and different I I'm not a 746 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: card collector, so I don't want to offend anybody, but yeah, 747 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: there is a pope Leo card Dad, just like how 748 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: you you have your own baseball card. 749 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: I have it somewhere over here. Well, Jeff, my baseball 750 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: card isn't going to attract the same money. I'm sure 751 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 2: that the Pope Leo card is going to come up. 752 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: Which one is going to be we bring more money 753 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: to a collector, the Pope Leo card or the Paul 754 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: Skens rookie card that was like so lucrative. 755 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because since he just became the pope. 756 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: This is technically the pope Leo rookie card because he's 757 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: just now the pope. This is his first year in 758 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: ten years. 759 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: If he has another card, it'll be his veteran card 760 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: because he's been in the he's been in the game 761 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: for a while. Or would his rookie card been when 762 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: he was a priest? Wait or not? Jeff, those are 763 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: all good questions. We were Catholic, we might be able 764 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: to answer them a little bit better. But uh so, 765 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: I hope no one was offended that we had the 766 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: all pope team. 767 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Well tell him tell so you call me and you would, 768 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: you would let me know that you wanted to do, 769 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: but you wanted to make sure we wouldn't offend anybody. 770 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: And I said, I think it's kosher, no pun intended. 771 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: And then you asked a teammate of yours at ESBN. 772 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: Brendan DeAngelis, who's our ace researcher at baseball tonight. He's Catholic. 773 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 2: So I showed in the list yesterday and I said, 774 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: are you offended by this? And he laughed out loud. 775 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: He said, of course or not? This is hilarious. 776 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, my wife, Emily was raised Catholic, right, and she 777 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: has almost all of her sacraments, you know, the whole thing. 778 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: She said it was cool. And our baby, McKinley, your granddaughter, 779 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: was baptized in a Catholic church. 780 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: She also said it was cool. I think we're good, 781 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: So I think we're safe. Right, We're good. If McKinley 782 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: gives the thumbs up on it, then I think we're 783 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: What a show this has been. We had the all 784 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: Pope team and the all unfortunate name ten man pitching 785 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: staff we got. We gotta get out of the house. 786 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 2: We have way too much time on her own. Goodness. 787 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: Well, tomorrow, on the feed that you're listening to the 788 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: show right now, we're gonna have Steve Russian back from 789 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: last season. So if you're new, you can go back 790 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: last season in anticipation and listen to our interview with him. 791 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 2: But dad, give us a little little tease, all right, Steve. 792 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: Steve Russian is the funniest person I've ever met in 793 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: my life. He is the greatest writer I've ever met 794 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 2: in my life. He is as clever with words than 795 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 2: anyone I've ever met in my life. And he's just 796 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: wicked smart, and he will make us laugh out loud. Tomorrow, 797 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 2: I promise you. 798 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: I plan on asking him about playing basketball with you 799 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: and Adam Sandler. 800 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to get down to the truth. 801 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah that I did indeed play basketball with Happy Gilmart. 802 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: We'll explain tomorrow. 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