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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Allie. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt and now we're just lamenting our fantasy

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Speaker 1: football luck. Yeah, not so good, just crazy stuff. This year,

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Speaker 1: we're both in the upper half of our league in scoring,

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Speaker 1: we're both in the bottom and points against probably.

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Speaker 2: Fire the defensive coordinators. Right, And I went back and looked.

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Speaker 1: I had seven instances this year where I lost a

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Speaker 1: player basically in the first quarter of a game and

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Speaker 1: got a zero. Basically took a zero or one because

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Speaker 1: he got one touch at tanked del this past week,

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the worst thing PHAs blocking, blocking, right.

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Speaker 1: He's one hundred and forty pounds, soaking wet.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly, but I think it was week three,

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Speaker 2: four and five that I lost. You lost a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you know, like in the first quarter or the first half.

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Speaker 2: You can't win.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Anyways, let's take a look at this week's

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Speaker 1: waiver wire pickups. Here looking here at there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of injuries. I bet there's some different points out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Well this this shouldn't that. We talked

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Speaker 1: about these guys a lot Romeo Dobbs and Jaden Reed

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Speaker 1: are both owned in thirty eight point five and forty

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Speaker 1: two point six percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: They should be Yeah, you want a piece of that

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Speaker 2: passing game. Yeah, those are definite guys. I mean they're

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Speaker 2: closer to starters than Waiver Wire. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo is owned in twelve point one percent leagues.

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Speaker 1: He should be using more and more. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: his stocks moving up. Yeah, we talked a little bit

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Speaker 1: about him. This guy yet yesterday, Elijah Moore's thirty four

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Speaker 1: point four percent of leagues. If Maury Cooper sits out,

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Speaker 1: he becomes the number one.

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Speaker 2: He does And I didn't realize this yesterday, but twelve targets.

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Speaker 2: He's had one hundred yard game in his career. Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco is his quarterback with the Jets. I mean there

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Speaker 2: and I guess they interviewed Flacco last week. You know, hey,

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Speaker 2: what do you know about Elijah Mooar And he was

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Speaker 2: raving about him. Of course he would. He's a new guy,

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Speaker 2: but there's a familiarity with Flacco and more. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would pick him up.

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones sixteen point eight percent ownership. Kirk Christian Kirk's out.

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Speaker 2: Is that out?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he was out for multiple weeks. Uh, so

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones should get some run. Parker Washington was also

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Speaker 1: valuable in that game last week.

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Speaker 2: He was a good after the catch guy rookie out

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Speaker 2: of Penn State, so people might remember him as a

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Speaker 2: Nitney Lion. I like him coming out of school. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's good with the ball in sands.

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Speaker 1: Uh. To Mario Douglas miss week thirteen in the concussion.

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Speaker 1: He's not coming back this week. I would not expect

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Speaker 1: they They're not going to rush him out there against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, so forget that.

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Speaker 2: I might not mind having him on my roster week

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Speaker 2: fourteen and beyond him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't pick him up though to try

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Speaker 1: to play him this week.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt Stone just owned in two point four percent

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Speaker 1: of leagues. Taylor's a starter now no, no.

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Speaker 2: Did they activate him and they're keeping the Vitos.

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Speaker 1: They're keeping the Vitos the starter.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've been using Hyatt reasonably. Well, I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: not the worst guy to keep on boing your roster.

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Speaker 2: He's boom or bust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Khalil Shakir only owned him five point eight percent.

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Speaker 1: They were off last week. Don't forget about him.

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Speaker 2: No, he's hard to hit the start button on, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because he's just not going to have a

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Speaker 2: ton of volume. But he's a good player, and he's

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Speaker 1: A quarterback at Matthew Stafford's owning thirty two percent of leagues. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Gardner Minshew ten point five percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: I would say he's better in fantasy than real life.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could see Jamis Winston this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's always good for fantasy. I mean, he's not

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Speaker 2: not bashful. If I'm them, I'm interested in playing Winston.

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Speaker 2: That car for is not a is a failed experiment

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Speaker 2: for the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got nothing to lose at this point, fire

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Speaker 1: him up. Do they give Carr a new contract?

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Speaker 2: I think I think he might be under contract at

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Speaker 2: least another year. I'm not sure if Winston is or not.

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Speaker 2: Now I think about it, I think he might be

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Speaker 2: hitting the market. Yeah, I know who'd rather play with

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cars on the books for thirty million next year.

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Speaker 1: They get a potential out after actually two more years.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty million next year with a if they get

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Speaker 1: move on from him's a fifty two million dollar kid,

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Speaker 1: dead cap hit. Well if they spent money badly.

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Speaker 2: They really have. And I didn't realize it, but I

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Speaker 2: didn't wasn't shocked at all. But they are the oldest

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Speaker 2: team in the league. Their team speed isn't particularly good anymore,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially on defense. I mean the Cam Jordan's

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Speaker 2: and the Mario Davis are getting up at age and

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Speaker 2: you know they don't have resources. We always laugh about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh they cashed out, you know, max out their credit cards.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter for the Saints. It's starting to matter. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, running back Antonio Gibson owned in forty four point

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Robinson's out. Yeah, the rookie from Duke Rodriguez.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it is.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's going to be more of

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Speaker 2: Gibson's gonna be bell cowing.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna be behind.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he's a flex he'll be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be the guy now with like Robinson was

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Speaker 1: eating into his catches a little bit, that's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen anymore. True, So you probably get five or

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Speaker 1: six catches out of Antonio Gibson.

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Speaker 2: He's a big play threat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ezekiel Elliott thirty four percent ownership. Well, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the only game in town.

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Speaker 2: I'd have a hard time starting him, but the volume is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be he's gonna get fifteen to twenty touches.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we'll catch the ball a little bit too, So.

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Speaker 2: I bet he gets twenty couches.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think there's worst starts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I just don't think a lot of points

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get off either. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would you rather start him? Or would you rather start?

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Speaker 2: Would you start one of the Steelers? I mean he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be the only show in town where they're the opposite.

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Speaker 2: That's true, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're better players than he is. It's about

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Speaker 2: the same, it's about the same. Yeah, it's about where

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Speaker 1: Would you rather start him or I don't know, Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably rather start like a Mixing or a Zach

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Speaker 2: Moss that's going to get a lot of touches that

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Speaker 1: Is mixing gonna get a lot of touches though, Because

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Speaker 1: I guess Chase Brown sakes Brown might be a thing.

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Speaker 1: He should probably be on this list. He is, OK,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that, but yeah, I guess the

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Speaker 1: reach of development maybe mixing is losing touch. I mean

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Speaker 1: he had two touchdo last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think he's been good for

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Speaker 2: a year or two as a player.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so I I mean I could see a

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Speaker 1: like if he buys again this Yeah, if you had

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Speaker 1: Remondre Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a good handcuff situation. Oh man, I

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Speaker 2: lost my number one, but I can live with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Ty J. Spears owned in thirty two percent of leagues,

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like the Derreck Henry thing is anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: Spears was a flexo. Yeah at times this year when

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Speaker 2: Henry was healthy. Bad offense too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Chase Brown. He's only he's owned in point

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Speaker 1: four percent of leagues.

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Speaker 2: He's a hard, charging, fast and a straight line tough guy.

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Speaker 2: People might remember him when we were talking draft His

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Speaker 2: brothers Twins of safety yeah, I mean good to root

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Speaker 2: for what they What the Bengals did last night was

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Speaker 2: exactly what I thought they should have done against the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and did not lean more in the running game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think that was they screwed that up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mix and got eight They get eight touches to

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Speaker 1: their running backs in that game against the Steelers. Just said, okay, kid,

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Speaker 1: it's all on you.

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Speaker 2: It's all on you, and it's asking way too much.

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Speaker 2: So side note, I love to remind people this time

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Speaker 2: of year, really Thanksgiving and beyond, there's always two or

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Speaker 2: three young backs that have fresh legs and you don't

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Speaker 2: even have to be good. You know, like Brown hasn't

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Speaker 2: played all year, but he also has got hit all year,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean like some of these backs will

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Speaker 2: come in for a battered old dude and have a

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Speaker 2: really good fantasy playoff stretch for you. You know, to

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on those type of guys that have

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Speaker 2: nowhere and there tight end.

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Speaker 1: You got chig on Klonklow twenty six point six percent ownership.

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Speaker 2: Looks like he's starting to get where we thought he

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Speaker 2: might be. When you know, fantasy throw to yeah Burks isn't.

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Speaker 1: Really a thing, Revan Jordan owned in two point four

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Speaker 1: percent of the leagues. We'll see what happens with Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 1: But Ifell's out, if you have del all Is out

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Speaker 1: and the pass catchers and well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're eleven to twelve ratio is,

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Speaker 2: but I bet the twelve goes up. Yeah, if Schultz

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Speaker 1: He's worth I mean I I had to pick. I

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Speaker 1: have Dalton Schultz. I had Mark Andrews again, one of

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Speaker 1: those injuries that killed me this year. So I was

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Speaker 1: all ready to start Dalton Schultz against that atrocious Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos tight end defense, and well then he wasn't available

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Speaker 1: to look, Brevin.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's there, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But he get ended up with like three for sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on him for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Isaiah likely is owned in twenty three point

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Speaker 1: two percent of ownership.

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Speaker 2: That seems really low to me too. Yeah, she's just

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Speaker 2: not fighting for targets with any other tight end. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna play a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's a high ankle spring for Trevor Lawrence that he

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Speaker 1: suffered last night. They're not ready to rule him out

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Speaker 1: of their game next week.

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Speaker 2: Seems ambitious.

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Speaker 1: It's a short week, and you like that affects all

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Speaker 1: of their guys.

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Speaker 2: All their guys. I mean that's a huge drop off off.

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Speaker 2: But that's not pick A to Trubisky. I mean this

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Speaker 2: is that's a big deal. Are you starting Ridley? I

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Speaker 2: mean he's been tough to start period, He's throw up

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Speaker 2: and down. Yeah, at ends really come back to earth.

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Speaker 2: Ingram finally scored the boy Jags offense fantasy wise took

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt, and that's been one that not

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Speaker 1: If I had to start when, i'd probably start Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both coming off of bye sound right?

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Speaker 2: For Vegas, I don't trust it. Donal either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want if I want to touch that game.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is at Dallas. Those are usually two much starts,

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Speaker 2: It's that's ugly.

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Speaker 2: I know? And it's easy from here on now too,

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Speaker 1: Well, because one's not gonna be watchable.

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Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know if i'd be top five,

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Speaker 1: I think they're going back to Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't matter. Didn you say they cut Tim Boyle today?

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Speaker 1: Would you say the Ravens over New England.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think either team gets to twenty on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect the Steelers to turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: Might be one that might be about it for what

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Speaker 1: I would actually.

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Speaker 1: Well green Bay, green Bay or New England.

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Speaker 2: Who's off this week?

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Speaker 1: I know Washington, Washington and Arizona.

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Speaker 1: And then that is it for the Buys.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the league we're in together. I

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Speaker 1: There, Mitch Trubisky, there's somebody, Bailey's, I'm sure the Vedo's

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Speaker 1: that'll be what you're starting this week.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't plan ahead on that.

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Speaker 1: Situation where you need to get in or win to

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Speaker 2: I'm even lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get Zach Wilson as Houston.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm sure benched in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, somebody.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of defensive pick from.

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Speaker 1: Somebody traded a quarterback two weeks ago to a guy

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Speaker 1: who's playing me that week. You traded justin Fields and

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Speaker 1: he ended up beating me that week. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I get for him. I got mcclaurin and another receiver

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Speaker 2: Didn't look at the I did not.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 2: But you can always pick up a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I could have traded Kyler at that point and instead

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Speaker 2: My quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy management, that's why you have to pay attention to

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Speaker 2: You have to pay attention to the schedule. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: I already had him? It was it was no it

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Speaker 2: was Pittman. I had Pittman. Pittman's great. I'd rather Pittman

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Speaker 1: That's well, now you're gonna be starting aiding no connollent

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Speaker 2: Very true in a game you need to win, if

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Speaker 2: I can pick him up, if you get him, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I might pick up a quarterback just to screwe.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's thirty two. There was somebody I can play.

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Speaker 2: They'll probably be Mitch or somebody like that. The rest

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Speaker 1: You know what, Matt, you shouldn't have traded him justin

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Speaker 2: Now bring it on. I think you can waverclaim ahead

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell everybody pick up quarterbacks this.

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Speaker 2: Week because I'm gonna start nobody.

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Speaker 1: Actually, that's one another thing. So the teams that are

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep you guys healthy. But if I were

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Speaker 2: And I think we had this. We probably had this

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Speaker 2: If you're even just in the playoff hunt and don't

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Speaker 2: your ethics of Let's say there's a team in our

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Speaker 2: league that has zero wins and it's picking guys up

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Speaker 2: they have no chance.

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Speaker 1: No problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't either, because you're playing to the whistle. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't problem.

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Speaker 1: They're still trying to win, You're still trying to win games.

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Speaker 1: I have no that the people who argue against that,

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Speaker 1: would you be okay? Then if the owner just didn't

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Speaker 1: send his I'm two and seven. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: set my line up the rest of the year.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, I mean that's not cool. That's not cool, period.

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Speaker 2: That's pick out the league stuff. Right.

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Speaker 1: You have to have no problem with with the team

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Speaker 1: that's in the last place picking guys up and still

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Speaker 1: trying to make moves. In fact, I would be angry

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Speaker 1: with them if they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Let's say I thought we disagreed on that left.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Devna Chan was sitting out there, somebody cut him.

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Speaker 2: And he's or even Ezekiel Elliott or somebody sitting out there,

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Speaker 2: pick him up, pick him up, right, right, even if

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Speaker 2: your team has no change.

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Speaker 1: Because that can affect who you know some you know,

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Speaker 1: somebody who's either in the playoff or gets him going

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Speaker 1: into the play that's a huge factor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have I think the only major crime in

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Speaker 2: fantasy is colluding for trades, right, that's awful, or playing

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Speaker 2: not to win, you know, like ignoring.

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Speaker 1: Your team, ignoring your team, don't set your roster.

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Speaker 2: Or don't make a move that you could make for free,

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Speaker 2: like in the real world, with a cost you fifty

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Speaker 2: dollars out of your pocket to make the move. That's

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Speaker 2: but if it's if all moves are free, pick up

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Speaker 2: the best guy, try to put the best team out

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Speaker 2: there every week.

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Speaker 1: And if I owe that, now what you should not do

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Speaker 1: is once once the playoffs start and you're not involved

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Speaker 1: in them. I don't care if you have a playoff

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Speaker 1: ladder or a consolation ladder or not. You do not

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Speaker 1: pick up guys on the waiver wire if you have

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Speaker 1: nothing to gain, even if you're playing a consolation which I.

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Speaker 2: That I disagree with.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, if I lose the consolation Bowl and

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Speaker 2: I have to dress up like little bo Peep picking

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Speaker 2: up a chain, but.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to. You should go into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with what you got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the playoff teams could pick up people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if if it's a straight if it's a bid,

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Speaker 1: I understand if you have to bid money on them.

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Speaker 1: If it's a situation like our league, where it's just

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Speaker 1: a straight waiver system, you're not playing for anything except

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Speaker 1: your own pride, you go in with what you got.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that the only thing we differ on

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Speaker 2: is if there is a toilet bowl, like if there's

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Speaker 2: a penalty for coming in last, if I have to

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Speaker 2: shave my head or my son's league, they sink them

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Speaker 2: in a dog gauge and do whatever they do do.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing whatever I can to stay out of the

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Speaker 2: dog gauge.

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Speaker 1: Well you should. You had all season long to do

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 2: I tried my best, but I'm about just gonna you know,

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Speaker 2: punt away.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you, I've seen your son's league. It's not

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Speaker 1: that hard to stay out of the basement.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of clowns in that one. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: getting better, though.

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Speaker 1: I think they want to be in the dog cage,

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Speaker 1: some of them. That's gonna do for the fantasy foots.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what this week's prize is yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, strange week, a short week. We better get

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe we'll have that by tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We do have shows.

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Speaker 1: Just remind everybody we have a show tomorrow on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Topical like fire Mouth after his big game, Warren after

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Speaker 2: his big game.

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Speaker 1: I do know what. There wasn't a lot of big

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Speaker 1: games in Thursday's question, is I do too? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a hard one. It's a hard one. Yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that one later in the week. But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: d shed thing. They've had some great prizes there, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see what they are. What it is this week.

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Speaker 1: No show Thursday for us this week since there's a

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Speaker 1: game any day, but we will then be back on

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Speaker 1: Friday to wrap up what see what we saw could

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Speaker 1: be a Steelers win.

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Speaker 2: Kind of better Bee. We'll see, I'll see it in.

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Speaker 1: The power rank all right, Yeah, it's power ranking day.

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Speaker 2: But there's a movement.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of crazy movement this week. This is

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Speaker 1: Eric at Holmes Rankings on NFL dot Com, and the

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Speaker 1: bottom probably remains somewhat unchanged.

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Speaker 2: Arizona one, Well, they were moving up already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they show at thirty two, the one and eleven

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Speaker 1: in Carolina Panthers. Do they win again.

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Speaker 2: At the exact same question, You can do it a

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Speaker 2: second win. I think their schedule is not crazy hard,

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Speaker 2: but I do play in the right right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they almost beat the Buccaneers this week.

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Speaker 2: They beat Mosted not long ago they almost beat I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're not the worst thirty second team I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: In December.

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Speaker 1: They did become the first team to officially be eliminated

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Speaker 1: from playoff contention though, this week, which is amazing in

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Speaker 1: that division. Yeah, I'm gonna say they win another. I

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Speaker 1: think they will too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the next team, I'm sure the next team.

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Speaker 1: And thirty one is the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Because their schedules are a lot more difficult. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: might be one of their best chances to win, just

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Speaker 2: considering short week, probably low scoring. I don't think they

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Speaker 2: win another.

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Speaker 1: Let's here's what he had to say about. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have held seven opponents to twenty four or

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Speaker 1: fewer points this season and they only won one of

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Speaker 1: those games. That's off, man, That's not even the most

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Speaker 1: amazing statistic related to this team's offensive stagnation. In their

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Speaker 1: past three games, the Patriots held each opponent to ten

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Speaker 1: or fewer points and they lost all three. Meanwhile, in

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Speaker 1: Week thirteen alone, three other NFL teams won games in

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Speaker 1: which they allowed twenty eight points or more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that three game stretch hasn't happened since nineteen thirty eight. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: you don't win.

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Speaker 1: At this point. It feels like you could put mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy, Malik Cunningham, and even Steve Grogan out there

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Speaker 1: at quarterback and it won't make a difference. For Manree

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Speaker 1: Stevenson was hurt Sunday and New England is already without

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Speaker 1: multiple receivers. So a bad situation has somehow gotten even worse.

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Speaker 1: Even by early nineteen ninety standards, this Patriots season has

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Speaker 1: been dreadful, folks. That's not Matt and I saying that.

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Speaker 2: No, right, right, right, picking on the opponent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not picking on the opponent. That's what a

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Speaker 1: national guy is saying about it.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with every word written there. I think

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Speaker 2: that's exactly dead on.

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Speaker 1: At thirty down a spot, Washington.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they're falling fast and I can't argue with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the defense is horrendous. Horrenduz z ooh line's bad?

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Speaker 2: Is how the starting quarterback on opening day year?

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Speaker 1: He's not been great?

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Speaker 2: I know. I mean they're not gonna be probably in

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Speaker 2: the top two to pick one.

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Speaker 1: They'll be, they might end up in the top five,

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Speaker 1: though they could be in position to go get one

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Speaker 1: if they wanted to. And there's gonna be more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be multiple first round quarterbacks this year.

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels from LSU. The more I look at I

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Speaker 2: think he's clearly the three and he's gonna go a

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Speaker 2: lot higher than people think.

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Speaker 1: I like the kid from Washington too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he has a knee. Yeah, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: more draft going forward.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there's a lot into that resk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty nine up a spot the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trend in the right direction. I mean, Kyler's getting

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Speaker 2: more and more comfortable in a new offense. Their offense

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Speaker 2: is good. I do think he will be their starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback next year. Yeah, and maybe with Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: At twenty eight holding steady the Giants.

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Speaker 2: They still stink, but I think they are in a

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Speaker 2: two game winning streak. Yeah, against bad teams, but that's our.

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Speaker 1: At twenty seven holding steady the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Their offense is the worst in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that you can't go much higher

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Speaker 2: than that.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six holding steady, the Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Titans falling quick too. Yeah, they're in trouble.

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Speaker 1: At twenty five holding steady. See, this is where there

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Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of movement down to the bottom. The

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all these team seasons are shot. But I would

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Speaker 2: be much more optimistic about the Bears, and to a

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Speaker 2: lesser degree, the Cardinals. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bears are four and four over the last two months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been okay.

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Speaker 2: They have two first round picks, one of which is

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Speaker 2: probably first overall, starting to build something like they did

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Speaker 2: some good things, like they're gonna go trade for Montes wet,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it gives people hope, you know.

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Speaker 1: At twenty four, down a spot, the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bears first. Raiders will be tough for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty three, up a spot, Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: I guess. I mean they're a below average team, but

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Speaker 2: they don't stink.

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Speaker 1: You move up after beating the Carolina at home by three.

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Speaker 2: I think those two teams are run by though not

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Speaker 2: that might still.

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Speaker 1: I might still take the Raiders over.

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Speaker 2: Might take the Bears over them too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty two, down five spots, the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Starting to look old? Yeah, do you think they win

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Speaker 2: that division? No? I don't either. No, I don't either.

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Speaker 1: At twenty one, holding steady bitch coaching change, New Orleans

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Speaker 1: the Chargers at twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I mean that win doesn't exactly propel them up the

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Speaker 2: rack six zero in New England.

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00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: At twenty up two spots the Rams.

666
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be higher on them than that. I think

667
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: they'd be a top seven NFC team for me, I'd

668
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: have them over like the Bikes.

669
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: Their problem is they still have road games at Baltimore

670
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: this week and also at San Francisco.

671
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: Who didn't know that. Yeah, but no, I think they're

672
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: playing better than any team we mentioned, and several were

673
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: about dimension.

674
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: At nineteen the Falcons.

675
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna win that division, yeah, and then get killed

676
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: by the Cowboys in the first round. Yeah, it's in

677
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: a successful year for Atlanta. Like, if you're Atlanta's owner,

678
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: are you happy with what transpired?

679
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, if you know, if you finish

680
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: nine and eight and win your division, okay, and.

681
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: Then you go and say, hey, let's trade for Justin

682
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: Fields or let's go get a quarterback and see what

683
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: we can do.

684
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

685
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: At eighteen up two spots are the Bengals.

687
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay, impressive win. He may be a long term backup.

688
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he already has been. Yeah, I mean he might

689
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: be that tenure guy that, yeah, has a lot of

690
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: money when he retires. At seventeen down a spot, the Vikings.

691
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple teams mentioned. I'd probably take

692
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: over them, Green Bay or not Green Bay, the Rams

693
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: in particular. At sixteen down a spot the Broncos.

694
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually the Rams are better than them too. Russell

695
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: Wilson was exposed this week.

696
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: At fteen down a spot, Seattle.

697
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: Trending the wrong way rapidly. The schedule is not kind.

698
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: No, they got to play forty nine Ers this week

699
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: in San Francisco.

700
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: That's not going to beauty. Steelers are going there before long.

701
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: At fourteen up four spots, Green Bay.

702
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: I'd have them at least this high. I think they're

703
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: rounding in the shape really well.

704
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: The last team to beat them was the Steelers a

705
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, that was a close loss

706
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: or close win. Well, yeah, they're playing better.

707
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have Green Bay ahead of the Steelers

708
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: right now. I'd have them ahead of the Browns that

709
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: we haven't mentioned.

710
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: At thirteen, holding steady the Colts.

711
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the Packers over the Colts.

712
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: At twelve, holding steady the Bills. I know what you think.

713
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: This is a power rank. This isn't their ability to

714
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. How good a football team are you?

715
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: Right now?

716
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: But the last time we saw him on the field

717
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: they lost another game?

718
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: Ye, I would have them noticeably higher. I mean five

719
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: spots higher, four spots like that.

720
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: Matt, they're like two and foreign last six games the

721
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: Browns are they?

722
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: I guess? I think so.

723
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: The wins and losses have not have not shown this.

724
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: I think they're maybe they lost to the.

725
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Patriots in that stretch. They lost to the Patriots in

726
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: that stretch.

727
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: What's what's the spread in Cleveland today? They're favored.

728
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. If i'd take it, I would bet Cleveland.

729
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: I bet they're favored.

730
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: I would bet Cleveland if I bet Vegas knows now

731
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: that the Browns defense at home is much different than

732
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the Browns defense on the road.

733
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: The Bills are favored here this week.

734
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: At eleven down two spots of Steelers.

735
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: That's fine. I might have them a spot or two lower.

736
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: At ten, holding steady the Browns, I think it's a

737
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: little kind of they've lost two in a row and

738
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: they're holding steady.

739
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a little kind to Cleveland.

740
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean they lost thirty six to nineteen.

741
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Like these defense home road splits are very real if

742
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: you but the road isn't good if.

743
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: You look at their numbers.

744
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean, we know the strength of the team is

745
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: a defense. Yeah, and it doesn't show up on the

746
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: road as dominant as it was a sort of season.

747
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: It's not even close to being dominant on there. Here's

748
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: what they've given up on the road, this year.

749
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even for the season, when you lump it

750
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: all together, it's good, not phenomenal.

751
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Twenty six points, thirty eight points, twenty four points, thirty

752
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: one points, twenty nine points, thirty six points. Those are

753
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: their road games this year.

754
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: That's like an average of thirty ish twenty nine I

755
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: ish something like that.

756
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: They're giving up a ton of points on the road,

757
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: and they will have a couple of road games left.

758
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Luckily for them, they have nine at home this year.

759
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: And that could just be total fluke, like the bad

760
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: road team might start to be a bad home team soon.

761
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: Well, that could happen too, I mean, once the attrition

762
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: starts to setting. I mean, so in the last two weeks,

763
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: they've given up sixty five points in those two road games.

764
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: They're not the ninth best team league to Denver and

765
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yeah, okay, the Rams can score a little bit,

766
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: but they have thirty six on them. Denver's not a

767
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: good scoring team.

768
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to fight about the Bills anymore. Okay,

769
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: the kids will get sad fighting. But Cleveland in Buffalo

770
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: Bills are favored by nine. Well, it would take a lot.

771
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: Of teams, or I would take the Bills against a

772
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: lot of teams in Buffalo.

773
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean I should have phrased it that way as

774
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: opposed to Cleveland. In Cleveland because of the both those

775
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: teams are so drastic home road, I think Kansas. I mean, yeah,

776
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: the Bills are better than the Browns.

777
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: At nine up two spots, Houston, They're better.

778
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Than anyone mentioned. I'd have them over Buffalo.

779
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: At eight down a spot Jacksonville.

780
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: If it's Jacksonville minus Lawrence seventeen, I mean, the Rams

781
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: are better. That's who Cleveland gets this week, which is

782
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: fortunate for them. Yeah, curious what that line is when

783
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: we know injury stuff. Yeah, but it'll be tight. But

784
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: if Lawrence is back this week or hobbled this week

785
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: only going to miss a week, well that's where they belong.

786
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Uh, it's seven up a spot Detroit.

787
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that offense is still pretty awesome.

788
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: Now, the question with Jacksonville becomes, Houston's a game behind

789
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: them now.

790
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: I know. I mean that was a huge turn of

791
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: events in the South that we thought the war was

792
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: shut and it's not shut.

793
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the line's now at seven.

794
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: If Lawrence missus time, I think Houston wins a division. Yeah,

795
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean they can overcome.

796
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: Their schedules not that hard to keep down the stretch

797
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville stills to go to Baltimore as well. Yeah,

798
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: which actually could play out well for the steel if

799
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore runs away with the division and Baltimore locks up

800
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: the number one spot in the playoffs.

801
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Are they playing Lamar Jackson in week eighteen?

803
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: See, I was gonna wait till later in the year

804
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: to ask you that because I think it came up

805
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: with I don't wanna throw Mike Pursuit under the bus,

806
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: but I think I mentioned to him on one of

807
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: our shows, and like you has covered these games for

808
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: a million years, and he I think it was Mike.

809
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: If it wasn't, I'm sorry, you know true. But he said, Oh,

810
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna play everybody because the Steelers. I'm like, I

811
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: doubt it and be smart. I mean, unless maybe if

812
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: you've ad buy, you would, But I don't care what

813
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: the rivalry says. If I have nothing to gain by that,

814
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: and I'm the Steelers and the Ravens are coming to town,

815
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm not playing anyone. I'm not playing what I'm not playing.

816
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: See the Ravens used to do that. I don't know

817
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: that Harball would do that.

818
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: That's what I mean Brian Billick did to you guys all.

819
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: But Brian Billick, I don't know that that Harball will.

820
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: I would sit him like crazy, especially Lamar.

821
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Kansas City falls two spots to six.

822
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: I would have them at least that low. I have

823
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: concerns Miami.

824
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: Now at five, fine, Kansas City versus Miami's a discussion.

825
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: It's definitely discussion. Miami's hotter right now. They still haven't

826
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: beaten anybody, and everyone knows my bill love. But Casey

827
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: could blow their doors off and go up to two again.

828
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: I mean that's very possible.

829
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Uh at four now is Dallas?

830
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe even higher.

831
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Dropping to three is Philadelphia?

832
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Philly's just such a bad matchup for San fran

833
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: because they build ignoring the middle of the field of

834
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: their defense, and boy, you don't want to do that.

835
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia versus Baltimore is a very real I

836
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: think are better. I think the Eagles are better too.

837
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: What do you think about Dallas versus Baltimore? I might

838
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: rather pick the Cowboys. I think the best three teams

839
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: might be in the NFC. I'm not saying they are

840
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: they might be.

841
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: I can't put Dallas there yet because they still haven't

842
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: beaten the team with a good team yet this year.

843
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him play Baltimore. I don't know

844
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: who i'd pick.

845
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Baltimore's the thing that you about Baltimore, it's an AFC

846
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: North thing. The thing that those teams do is they

847
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: beat you up at the line of scrimmage. That's why

848
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphi is a bad matchup for Baltimore, because you're not

849
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: going to beat Philadelphia up at the line.

850
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: Of scrimmage, right, No, I agree with that.

851
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: Dallas, however, I think might be able to get handled

852
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: a little bit at the line of.

853
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: Score so than Philly, but their lines are pretty good.

854
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Philly has beaten them up a little bit at the

855
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage.

856
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm curious how the rest of the season goes for Dallas.

857
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: I could see them taking a step forward, and I

858
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: think they played the Eagles this week.

859
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: Is it this week?

860
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: Soon? If not, I think this week.

861
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: And then they got Buffalo coming up next week.

862
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: I could see them getting embarrassed in those games. I'm saying, ah,

863
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: they're fraud or beating them both and being like maybe

864
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: they're finally over the hump.

865
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: I don't see him beating them both until that's that's

866
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: a big ass.

867
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: That's a lot of course.

868
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: Baltimore then at number two and San Francisco moves up

869
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: two spots to number one.

870
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: San Frando one's easy picking two for me, He's not easy.

871
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one.

872
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: I'd probably go Eagles. The other thing about the Eagles

873
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Niners game was the Eagles going into that game had

874
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: played a ton of snaps the week before. I think

875
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: it was an overtime game. Now. I still think the

876
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: Niners beat them regularly and are better than the Eagles.

877
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: But it was a close game from could have gone

878
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: way through the third quarter, and then they did. San

879
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: Francisco kind of started away.

880
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: As they do. Yeah, San Franz strong. Yeah.

881
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's where we're at with the power rankings.

882
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: It's not going to fight a much.

883
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: Steelers coming in at eleven, even after a bad seems

884
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: like a lot of Steeler fans would fight us on.

885
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: That right right and again on December fifth, Wow, better

886
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: question on June fifteenth. If I said on December fifth

887
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers would be eleven, you're taking it, folks or not?

888
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: I think you take it.

889
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: I think you take it because at that point you

890
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: look at the all the all the predictions where all

891
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to finish flash Inner Division.

892
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: Right, they're definitely behind the Bengals are definitely behind the

893
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: Bills or definitely behind you know, right, I think you

894
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: take it. So, yeah, that's bad shape.

895
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: No, they do need to start stacking a couple of

896
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: wins here.

897
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: They win the next two and then be in real

898
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: good shape. Yeah, yeah, have work shape you were a

899
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: week ago. But you're not in bad shape.

900
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: No, not not in hoard shape. You're not where you

901
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: were at last year where you need to win and

902
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: then have other teams lose. You control your destiny.

903
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Which speaking of pursuit of he hates that tournament.

904
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody controls their destiny. They control their fate. Yes, anyways,

905
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: we're going to get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

907
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Driver on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish

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Speaker 1: up the show right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly.

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00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Today. Roger Goodell,

910
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: NFL Commissioner was talking about some things, and he said

911
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: he sees the NFL becoming a global or football in

912
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: general becoming a global sport in five to ten years.

913
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: Wow.

914
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Looking at the league, looking at adding another international market

915
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Speaker 1: to next year's regular schedule. In this irregular season schedule,

916
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I should say Brazil and Spain are considered the two

917
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: front runners. I've actually covered a game in Spain. The

918
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: Steelers played in Barcelona, played the forty nine Ers there

919
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three. That was my first Okay, Steelers.

920
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Road trip and your pictures like iron cope and stuff.

921
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Right with flying flying to Barcelona. But that's where as

922
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: they say they're barth Helona.

923
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: Really yes, So, I mean I'm not a geography major

924
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: and I'm not well schooled in world events, but I

925
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: would think anywhere in Europe is similar. Yeah, I mean

926
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean, it's easy to

927
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: get to. Brazil is a totally different beast though, right.

928
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, southern hemisphere, you know, South America. It'd be the

929
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Speaker 1: first game in South. Think of the first game in

930
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: South America. I think, no matter what you consider Mexico, right,

931
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Speaker 1: Mexico's that's Central America. Yeah, Central America, South America is

932
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: the South America.

933
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: America is Canada America and Mexico. Central America is not

934
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: a continent. It's not It's an area, right right, right, Okay,

935
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know there's ever been a game in

936
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Speaker 2: South America Peru Argentina.

937
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that I so those were definitely those are

938
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Speaker 1: those are on the in the offing here. And he

939
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: also made notes that, of course the Olympics in twenty

940
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: was it twenty twenty eight will add flag football?

941
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: No I knew that, which I guess is cool, but

942
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: it also makes me think, like, no offense to the

943
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: Dream Team, But don't you think we could put the

944
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: mahomes Tyreek team together in flag That really wouldn't be

945
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: very competitive with Brazil and Spain and North Korea somebody

946
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: whoever else on the planet. Like, I don't think the

947
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Dream Team winning a gold is all that impressive.

948
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: You know, guys have done if guys have played this.

949
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: The Dream Team is different because everybody plays.

950
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: Basketball, I know, but they don't have Jordan and Magic

951
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: and Bird and a team in Barkley on the bench,

952
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

953
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Countries that do basketball very well, yes.

954
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: But then they're never going to lose that game. Ever,

955
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: the Dream Team, I don't think anybody's beating the NFL

956
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: the best flags.

957
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: We're talking about the best of the best.

958
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, but Micah Parsons and what as your

959
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: edge rushers.

960
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Well, how long do they have to count for? As

961
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: your daughter says, they have to hold their hands up

962
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: in the air.

963
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: And I don't people. I was part of the rules

964
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: committee putting flag football in the usc Many Upper Saint

965
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: Clair many moons ago, and it was three one thousand,

966
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: and that was a big thing for the ref because

967
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: the kids were they went in. You actually have to

968
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: count it out.

969
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: You have to yell it out. You'd be one one thousand,

970
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: two one thousand, yeah, and.

971
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: You'd be pretty but you have one blitz. But anytime

972
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: the quarterback either faked a handoff, play action or ran

973
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: past the line of scrimmage didn't matter, of course. Yeah,

974
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: so quarterback runs were a little discouraged because you could

975
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: just ee off on it.

976
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, flag football.

977
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: So don't what rules they played.

978
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: So when I when I started school my first two

979
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: years in college, I went to pitt Titusville and they

980
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: had a in house. They had a flag football league

981
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: that played there in the college we put We put

982
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: together our own team.

983
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: That's what, yeah, right, right, like an inter real We.

984
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: Played against the other teams from the s from the city.

985
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: We won the championship. Yeah, and I think it's a

986
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: great case. There was a monetary value. We had a

987
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: nice little championship party.

988
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: That's fun. One of the things I ran into that

989
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: was a bit of a problem, especially once the kids

990
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: get older, is the tackle. Kids would play flag and

991
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: they played like tackle, you know what I mean. There's

992
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: no helmets and you know, some of the linebackers on

993
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: the fifth grade team or chasing Johnny around who's just

994
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: happy to be out there, and you can get a

995
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: little rough.

996
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: That's what when my my oldest son was playing flag football,

997
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: he'd already played a year of tackle football. You knows

998
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: how to take He's he's running down the field with

999
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: the ball and somebody stepped up in front of him

1000
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: and he lowered his shoulder and.

1001
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: That's frowned up. Yeah, but it still happens. Yeah, and

1002
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: you don't have helmets on, and these guys don't know

1003
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: how to tackle or yeah they're right, or be tackle now.

1004
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Luckily he pulled off and spun around the guy but

1005
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: there's the coach after the game was like I thought, no,

1006
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: it was gonna flag And you.

1007
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: Can understand why. I mean, they're playing football and that's

1008
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: how they were taught. But yeah, that is one of

1009
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: the issues.

1010
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean it's good for the game.

1011
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And I don't mind the international games.

1012
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: I know some people do. But again, if it grows

1013
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: the game and it grows the popularity, it only expands everything. Yeah,

1014
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: everything expands.

1015
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: The more football is good. Yeah, not to mention you

1016
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: get women playing flag and stuff like that too, great,

1017
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: it's phenomenal.

1018
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Actually some great girls. Yeah, flag football player better than

1019
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: the boys, especially at the younger level when they've already

1020
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: kind of grown a little bit and they're.

1021
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Just faster fast. There you go.

1022
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, lengths are longer.

1023
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so now more football, good football.

1024
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Looking here at some of the transactions from today.

1025
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: Real quick, not to interject, but do you think ten

1026
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: years from now, like Goodell's talking, will there be a

1027
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: not an NFL Europe, but will will they have their

1028
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: own football league? You know that's respectable.

1029
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean if we've tried that before, I maybe it

1030
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: was even that, you know, NFL Europe was exactly what

1031
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: you've already pushed for the minor league. Yeah.

1032
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: The problem. What I like differently though, is I love

1033
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: like the Penn's minor league team is Wilkes Bear. Yeah,

1034
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: and you can pull up a goalie for two years.

1035
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: And the problem with having your minor league in NFL Europe.

1036
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to James Harrison about this, like

1037
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: because he played there, and He's like, I didn't know anybody.

1038
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm in a foreign country. I don't know the language.

1039
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I think he was in Amsterdam or somewhere, or maybe Germany,

1040
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: Frankfurt or something. I don't know the language. And I'm

1041
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: by myself there. I don't, you know, So it gets tough. See.

1042
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: I don't love that it's overseas. I like that. I

1043
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: wish the Steelers minor League play team played it Penn

1044
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: State or West Virginia Stadium or something like that close,

1045
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: you know. And it's But back to my thing I

1046
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: talked about a lot. Sorry to kill your transaction stuff here,

1047
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: but one of the problems that we always harp on

1048
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: is d line plays so much better then no line

1049
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: play because line play not only they need more practice

1050
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: and they're not getting nearly enough practice nowadays with today's

1051
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: rules offensive lineman development.

1052
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. We have one big

1053
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: transaction to uh Aleen McNeil, an injured reserve for the Lions.

1054
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's come into his own Yeah spring knee.

1055
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: Could return for the playoffs, but that's a big loss

1056
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: for them.

1057
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: It is. He's a people I don't remember him, the

1058
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: second round pick, nose tackle type, super state wide body

1059
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: that can really run, and he's gotten better and better

1060
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: and better since he's been in the league. Was having

1061
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: a great year and I know he's been dinged up

1062
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: and now he's out for the year.

1063
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: He said uh could could return for the playoffs. Okay,

1064
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: so he's crucial for them. Yeah, I mean that's that's

1065
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: one of their big one more injuries weekend and they

1066
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: signed to their practice squad. How about this, Tyson Alululu?

1067
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, how about that?

1068
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: Good for him?

1069
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Somehow I missed that little transaction.

1070
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: A lot of those nose tackle types can kind of

1071
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: just sit on their couch for a while and I'm

1072
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: not going to camp. Someone will call me at some

1073
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: point and go in and be a professional and do

1074
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: your job. And he's perfect for that.

1075
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: It happens just So Tyson, a Lulu's son, is a

1076
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: running back at North Alleghany. He's their numbers are starting.

1077
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: He's there, starting running back. He's their dude. And I

1078
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: think they play in the state championship this weekend. Really,

1079
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: so Tyson is going to miss that.

1080
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: They be a Lion, Go be a Lion.

1081
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: Maybe get a playoff check. Maybe I bet he does. Yeah,

1082
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: so good for him, Good for one of the great

1083
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: ones healthy and one of the good dudes in the

1084
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: in the league. And good for him. They're obviously looking

1085
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: for some help there. He might end up playing some

1086
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: snaps for them.

1087
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah with Isaiah Bugs.

1088
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that. Anyways, that's going to do it

1089
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Speaker 1: for today's show. So for my partner Matt Williamson, uh,

1090
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: for Justin Miller here on site keeping us on the air,

1091
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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lallie. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.