1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,908 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,388 --> 00:00:23,868 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:25,108 --> 00:00:28,508 Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper 5 00:00:28,548 --> 00:00:32,468 Speaker 3: Beef Jerky, Live in New York City, Wednesday, November fifteenth. 6 00:00:32,508 --> 00:00:34,428 Speaker 3: Jamie or At Kyle weren Peter Schrager in depth. 7 00:00:36,588 --> 00:00:37,588 Speaker 2: I get all of that. 8 00:00:39,548 --> 00:00:42,668 Speaker 4: I feel so long, I feel so welcome all It's 9 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:45,228 Speaker 4: so good to be back. Six months in Germany. Oh, 10 00:00:45,308 --> 00:00:47,348 Speaker 4: it was long the last two weeks. I was all 11 00:00:47,428 --> 00:00:49,188 Speaker 4: packed up, I was ready to go. It was an 12 00:00:49,228 --> 00:00:52,628 Speaker 4: absolute blast in Frankfurt. The people were amazing, the games 13 00:00:52,628 --> 00:00:54,868 Speaker 4: were fun. Second one not as much as the first one. 14 00:00:54,868 --> 00:00:56,788 Speaker 4: But who's saying but I had a blast one. I'm 15 00:00:56,788 --> 00:00:58,748 Speaker 4: happy to be home. I'm back, happy to be around Juja. 16 00:00:58,988 --> 00:01:01,508 Speaker 5: Throw it into a team meeting of colts. 17 00:01:01,548 --> 00:01:03,748 Speaker 2: It was the call of the year. That was a 18 00:01:03,748 --> 00:01:06,268 Speaker 2: great job. I was a direct Bill Belichick quote. We 19 00:01:06,308 --> 00:01:08,468 Speaker 2: need Yes. 20 00:01:08,788 --> 00:01:11,268 Speaker 1: That was and now his team is doing it following 21 00:01:11,388 --> 00:01:13,628 Speaker 1: bas you crushed it. 22 00:01:13,668 --> 00:01:14,188 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 23 00:01:14,468 --> 00:01:17,268 Speaker 6: Ian rapport back as well. He's gonna kick off. 24 00:01:17,508 --> 00:01:20,308 Speaker 3: Kind of a hefty news afternoon that came out yesterday 25 00:01:20,868 --> 00:01:23,148 Speaker 3: rap sheet Take us to Buffalo first and all the 26 00:01:23,148 --> 00:01:24,668 Speaker 3: details from someone who was let go. 27 00:01:24,988 --> 00:01:27,908 Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll start with the Buffalo Bills. Ken Dorsey, the 28 00:01:27,908 --> 00:01:30,148 Speaker 7: offensive coordinator for the last two years and actually the 29 00:01:30,188 --> 00:01:33,108 Speaker 7: coordinator of one of the NFL's best offenses last year, 30 00:01:33,468 --> 00:01:36,788 Speaker 7: not quite as much this year, was fired and replaced 31 00:01:36,868 --> 00:01:39,708 Speaker 7: yesterday after a tough loss on National TV by the 32 00:01:39,748 --> 00:01:40,588 Speaker 7: Buffalo Bills. 33 00:01:40,628 --> 00:01:43,388 Speaker 5: Now, I'm not so sure. Was the offense at the end. 34 00:01:43,548 --> 00:01:45,868 Speaker 7: That kind of did it for the Buffalo Bills and 35 00:01:45,908 --> 00:01:49,748 Speaker 7: in turnovers notably Josh Allen's interceptions and of course fumbles 36 00:01:50,388 --> 00:01:53,068 Speaker 7: did not help. Of Course, the field goals Shenan against 37 00:01:53,068 --> 00:01:55,468 Speaker 7: twelve men on the field also did not help. Having 38 00:01:55,508 --> 00:01:57,948 Speaker 7: nothing to do with Dorsey. That said, it was the 39 00:01:58,028 --> 00:02:01,668 Speaker 7: offense that Sean McDermott, the head coach, decided to change, 40 00:02:01,668 --> 00:02:07,348 Speaker 7: So Dorsey officially now out this Bills announced yesterday. Joe Brady, 41 00:02:07,348 --> 00:02:10,268 Speaker 7: the former Panthers offensive coordinator he is now in with 42 00:02:10,308 --> 00:02:13,788 Speaker 7: Sean McDermott, was asked about this decision and news conference yesterday, 43 00:02:13,948 --> 00:02:17,228 Speaker 7: said essentially, they needed a change. They need a new 44 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:19,988 Speaker 7: energy on offense. That is what he wants to see 45 00:02:20,268 --> 00:02:23,548 Speaker 7: to see them come out confident and able to score points. 46 00:02:23,828 --> 00:02:26,108 Speaker 7: They still have Josh Allen. They still have Stefan Diggs. 47 00:02:26,188 --> 00:02:28,468 Speaker 7: Theoretically they should be fine on offense, but a sure 48 00:02:28,508 --> 00:02:30,908 Speaker 7: week to get ready for the New York Jets when 49 00:02:30,908 --> 00:02:32,388 Speaker 7: they knew offensive coordinator. 50 00:02:32,828 --> 00:02:35,388 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, rap sheet, thank you so much. We're going 51 00:02:35,428 --> 00:02:36,948 Speaker 3: to talk about the Bills right now, because it was 52 00:02:36,988 --> 00:02:40,868 Speaker 3: an interesting decision one you figured was coming out of Buffalo, 53 00:02:41,028 --> 00:02:42,948 Speaker 3: not the Dorsey part of it, but just that somebody 54 00:02:43,548 --> 00:02:46,348 Speaker 3: was maybe going to have to take responsibility for what 55 00:02:46,388 --> 00:02:48,428 Speaker 3: the Bills have been putting as a product out on 56 00:02:48,428 --> 00:02:48,828 Speaker 3: the field. 57 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:49,268 Speaker 6: Recently. 58 00:02:49,348 --> 00:02:52,268 Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey, obviously with the Bills for quite some time now, 59 00:02:52,748 --> 00:02:55,028 Speaker 3: moved up the ranks as Brian Dable took off for 60 00:02:55,708 --> 00:02:57,188 Speaker 3: to be the head coach of the New York Giants, 61 00:02:57,508 --> 00:02:59,788 Speaker 3: took on that offensive coordinator role, and now he no 62 00:02:59,868 --> 00:03:01,068 Speaker 3: longer wears that hat. 63 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:02,828 Speaker 6: Peter, the reaction you had. 64 00:03:02,668 --> 00:03:04,348 Speaker 3: When you found out that it was indeed Ken dor 65 00:03:04,588 --> 00:03:06,708 Speaker 3: see that Seann Derbert turned to yesterday and said, it's 66 00:03:06,708 --> 00:03:07,268 Speaker 3: to you man. 67 00:03:07,388 --> 00:03:10,188 Speaker 8: Yeah, I wasn't sure if this was gonna happen yesterday 68 00:03:10,268 --> 00:03:11,668 Speaker 8: or if this is gonna happen at all this season, 69 00:03:11,668 --> 00:03:13,348 Speaker 8: maybe the off season, lad or too. But they ripped 70 00:03:13,348 --> 00:03:14,708 Speaker 8: band aid off. Now they still think they can win 71 00:03:14,748 --> 00:03:16,548 Speaker 8: this thing. So they're five and five, and this was 72 00:03:16,588 --> 00:03:18,548 Speaker 8: like something has to change, and I'll say it's different. 73 00:03:18,868 --> 00:03:20,508 Speaker 8: I have spoken to people in Buffalo, and I have 74 00:03:20,588 --> 00:03:22,588 Speaker 8: spoken to people when the Dorsey came like this wasn't 75 00:03:22,588 --> 00:03:25,708 Speaker 8: some contentious like your fire get out of here. This 76 00:03:25,788 --> 00:03:28,268 Speaker 8: was one of those where they're a small town in 77 00:03:28,308 --> 00:03:30,428 Speaker 8: a lot of ways, and like the families all know 78 00:03:30,508 --> 00:03:32,988 Speaker 8: each other, and Dorsey's been there from the whole rise up, 79 00:03:33,028 --> 00:03:34,868 Speaker 8: and Dorsey and Allen of a long relationship, and it 80 00:03:34,908 --> 00:03:37,348 Speaker 8: was kind of like, hey, this is what's gonna happen. 81 00:03:37,388 --> 00:03:40,348 Speaker 8: And Dorsey understood that something had to happen, and now 82 00:03:40,388 --> 00:03:43,068 Speaker 8: he moves on and it's like Joe Brady get into 83 00:03:43,108 --> 00:03:45,748 Speaker 8: that catbird seat, like it's your shot now now. Joe 84 00:03:45,788 --> 00:03:48,788 Speaker 8: Brady of Joe Brady of course had this meteoric rise 85 00:03:48,988 --> 00:03:50,988 Speaker 8: to start them at LSU in the one year with 86 00:03:51,148 --> 00:03:53,108 Speaker 8: Burrow and Chase and Jefferson and then was like the 87 00:03:53,308 --> 00:03:56,828 Speaker 8: youngest offensive coordinator. Everyone was blown out of Carolina because 88 00:03:56,828 --> 00:03:57,548 Speaker 8: that didn't work. 89 00:03:57,908 --> 00:04:00,828 Speaker 5: He's been with Buffalo the last couple of seasons. 90 00:04:01,148 --> 00:04:04,028 Speaker 8: He's been there with the other it's hey, this guy's gone, 91 00:04:04,188 --> 00:04:06,988 Speaker 8: you're up, and they are looking for the Bills to 92 00:04:07,268 --> 00:04:10,468 Speaker 8: still and they as being Buffalo fans, Buffalo yre to 93 00:04:10,628 --> 00:04:12,708 Speaker 8: still be relevant, Like this isn't a white flag by 94 00:04:12,828 --> 00:04:17,068 Speaker 8: means if any thing firing Dorsey now is there signed 95 00:04:17,068 --> 00:04:19,508 Speaker 8: to the fans that we still believe that we think 96 00:04:19,508 --> 00:04:21,068 Speaker 8: we have to rip the band aid off now and 97 00:04:21,108 --> 00:04:23,028 Speaker 8: still get this thing done before it's too late. 98 00:04:23,068 --> 00:04:25,348 Speaker 5: They have this stretch coming up. We highlighted it yesterday. Jason. 99 00:04:25,388 --> 00:04:31,188 Speaker 8: It's Eagles, hey bye, and then it's Chiefs and Cowboys. 100 00:04:31,628 --> 00:04:33,828 Speaker 5: You lose those three, he'd done, like, see you later. 101 00:04:33,908 --> 00:04:35,908 Speaker 8: We'll see it and we might have an entirely different 102 00:04:35,948 --> 00:04:36,588 Speaker 8: crew we're talking about. 103 00:04:36,628 --> 00:04:38,628 Speaker 1: Also got the Jets first and their defense they've already 104 00:04:38,628 --> 00:04:39,788 Speaker 1: lost to Yep, precisely. 105 00:04:39,828 --> 00:04:41,508 Speaker 8: They played the Jets this weekend, who they lost to 106 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:43,308 Speaker 8: without Rogers. 107 00:04:42,908 --> 00:04:45,628 Speaker 5: Went down and I was like Jack Wilson, go, I 108 00:04:45,628 --> 00:04:47,868 Speaker 5: don't think Ken Dorsey is fully to blame for this season. 109 00:04:48,108 --> 00:04:49,708 Speaker 5: I think Ken Dorsey fumble the ball. 110 00:04:50,308 --> 00:04:52,308 Speaker 8: I don't think Ken Dorsey was the one who couldn't 111 00:04:52,308 --> 00:04:54,348 Speaker 8: get the special teams right. I do think someone had 112 00:04:54,348 --> 00:04:57,028 Speaker 8: to take the fall, and it's Darcy so now, hey, Leslie, Frasier, 113 00:04:57,068 --> 00:04:57,468 Speaker 8: You're gone. 114 00:04:57,468 --> 00:04:59,908 Speaker 5: Dorsey, You're gone. At some point, it's what are we 115 00:04:59,948 --> 00:05:00,428 Speaker 5: doing here? 116 00:05:00,468 --> 00:05:02,268 Speaker 8: But you know what, they're trying to establish the season 117 00:05:02,268 --> 00:05:04,028 Speaker 8: and they think that that's gonna be the change we'll see. 118 00:05:04,108 --> 00:05:05,068 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a scapegoat. 119 00:05:05,068 --> 00:05:07,388 Speaker 4: And it's crazy because when you say, like something had 120 00:05:07,388 --> 00:05:09,948 Speaker 4: to happen if they don't have twelve guys on the field, 121 00:05:09,948 --> 00:05:11,868 Speaker 4: if they don't go blitz zero at the end of 122 00:05:11,868 --> 00:05:14,108 Speaker 4: that game and allow the Broncos to come down, kick 123 00:05:14,148 --> 00:05:16,468 Speaker 4: the field, go and win the game, does something still 124 00:05:16,628 --> 00:05:19,068 Speaker 4: have to happen that Ken Dorsey have to be fired. 125 00:05:19,268 --> 00:05:21,268 Speaker 4: So that's kind of my question mark because some of 126 00:05:21,268 --> 00:05:23,868 Speaker 4: the issues that took place was Sean McDermott calling the 127 00:05:23,868 --> 00:05:26,628 Speaker 4: blitz zero and then ultimately a head coach, especially team coach, 128 00:05:26,948 --> 00:05:29,228 Speaker 4: that has nothing to do with Ken Dorsey, And when 129 00:05:29,228 --> 00:05:31,508 Speaker 4: you look at him being fired, you look at his offense. Yes, 130 00:05:31,548 --> 00:05:33,788 Speaker 4: it hasn't been as prolific as it has been the 131 00:05:33,908 --> 00:05:36,468 Speaker 4: last few seasons, but at the same time, it's hard 132 00:05:36,468 --> 00:05:38,548 Speaker 4: for an offense to put points up on the board 133 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:40,388 Speaker 4: when you continue to turn the ball over. 134 00:05:40,468 --> 00:05:41,228 Speaker 2: You just mentioned that. 135 00:05:41,188 --> 00:05:43,028 Speaker 4: They have to play the Jets next, and that was 136 00:05:43,068 --> 00:05:45,628 Speaker 4: the game that they already lost with al Aaron Rodgers 137 00:05:45,708 --> 00:05:47,268 Speaker 4: on the field, and a large reason it had to 138 00:05:47,628 --> 00:05:48,148 Speaker 4: was because. 139 00:05:47,908 --> 00:05:50,988 Speaker 2: The amount of interceptions that Josh Allen threw in that game. 140 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:53,548 Speaker 4: So when you say where's the blame and Ken Dorsey 141 00:05:53,628 --> 00:05:55,068 Speaker 4: had to go on his offense, this is that and 142 00:05:55,148 --> 00:05:57,588 Speaker 4: the third. At the same time, if the Buffalo bill 143 00:05:57,628 --> 00:06:01,228 Speaker 4: stopped turning the ball over, they're able to win more games. 144 00:06:01,268 --> 00:06:03,828 Speaker 4: There's nothing that beats you faster than giving the team 145 00:06:03,908 --> 00:06:06,188 Speaker 4: giving their team the ball, and they did them on 146 00:06:06,188 --> 00:06:07,748 Speaker 4: the first play of the game, the last one when 147 00:06:07,828 --> 00:06:09,028 Speaker 4: James Cook fumbled the ball. 148 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:11,108 Speaker 2: So you look at this and you look at Ken Dorson. 149 00:06:11,188 --> 00:06:12,868 Speaker 2: You just mentioned Leslie Fraser as well. 150 00:06:12,988 --> 00:06:16,268 Speaker 4: From the end of that twenty twenty two season, Fraser's gone, 151 00:06:16,268 --> 00:06:18,188 Speaker 4: and now before the next season is even over, the 152 00:06:18,228 --> 00:06:21,308 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is gone. To me, you say, all right, 153 00:06:21,308 --> 00:06:23,228 Speaker 4: they feel like they can still salvage the season. This 154 00:06:23,268 --> 00:06:24,948 Speaker 4: is full on panic mold to me. This is the 155 00:06:24,988 --> 00:06:27,548 Speaker 4: bank teller and the bank and some people walk in 156 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:29,108 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you're nervous and you think 157 00:06:29,148 --> 00:06:31,388 Speaker 4: something's about to go now, and you just reach underneath 158 00:06:31,428 --> 00:06:33,988 Speaker 4: and you hit that quick panic button. Just in case. 159 00:06:34,388 --> 00:06:37,028 Speaker 4: To me, that is the Buffalo Bill's seasons right now. 160 00:06:37,028 --> 00:06:39,388 Speaker 4: We're trying to We're looking around and just like, who's 161 00:06:39,388 --> 00:06:40,148 Speaker 4: gonna find. 162 00:06:39,908 --> 00:06:42,388 Speaker 2: A way to get this thing back going? Joe Brady's. 163 00:06:42,508 --> 00:06:44,228 Speaker 4: Is that the guy that's now gonna rise up and 164 00:06:44,228 --> 00:06:44,948 Speaker 4: they're gonna put. 165 00:06:44,828 --> 00:06:47,148 Speaker 2: Up forty points a game? Are we super confident in that? 166 00:06:47,188 --> 00:06:47,788 Speaker 2: Why A so worth? 167 00:06:47,788 --> 00:06:49,548 Speaker 1: Those people in rob the bank, They're just they're depositing 168 00:06:49,588 --> 00:06:50,068 Speaker 1: their paycheck. 169 00:06:50,108 --> 00:06:50,908 Speaker 5: What was it about them? 170 00:06:50,988 --> 00:06:52,508 Speaker 2: I'm like, God, I'm riggered. But never know. 171 00:06:52,828 --> 00:06:56,828 Speaker 1: I guess I think if they had eleven guys on 172 00:06:56,868 --> 00:06:58,388 Speaker 1: the field for that field goal, I think Dorsy would 173 00:06:58,388 --> 00:06:58,948 Speaker 1: still be like them. 174 00:06:58,988 --> 00:06:59,428 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 175 00:06:59,668 --> 00:07:01,948 Speaker 1: The ingredients are really good. The food is not good. 176 00:07:02,108 --> 00:07:06,868 Speaker 1: That's the job. Like cook, There is no reason interceptions, fumbles, 177 00:07:06,908 --> 00:07:09,788 Speaker 1: otherwise that a team with Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs 178 00:07:09,788 --> 00:07:11,868 Speaker 1: and James Cook and a first round rookie tight end 179 00:07:11,908 --> 00:07:13,788 Speaker 1: that they probably didn't need to draft and gave to 180 00:07:13,828 --> 00:07:16,948 Speaker 1: Dorsey anyway, has gone six straight games without scoring thirty points. 181 00:07:17,028 --> 00:07:18,108 Speaker 5: This is not just the Broncos thing. 182 00:07:18,188 --> 00:07:20,108 Speaker 1: Yes, they had eight points at halftime against a team 183 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:23,628 Speaker 1: that gave up seventy points six straight games without thirty. 184 00:07:23,828 --> 00:07:27,188 Speaker 1: Allen's interceptions are up since Dorset took over. Allen's rushing 185 00:07:27,188 --> 00:07:29,308 Speaker 1: attempts are way down. The offense is kind of broken. 186 00:07:29,348 --> 00:07:31,268 Speaker 1: It's stagnant. It's not anything that we fell in love 187 00:07:31,268 --> 00:07:33,148 Speaker 1: with a couple of years ago. It's not why they 188 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:35,828 Speaker 1: are at everybody's offseason favorite. It's not why they're on 189 00:07:35,868 --> 00:07:37,588 Speaker 1: the mad and cover And you might be like, well, 190 00:07:37,628 --> 00:07:39,868 Speaker 1: that's sound's fault. You shouldn't. Of course it sounds fault. 191 00:07:39,988 --> 00:07:43,668 Speaker 1: You're not firing Josh Allen. Josh Allen's organization all right, coordinators, 192 00:07:43,708 --> 00:07:44,428 Speaker 1: it's very simple. 193 00:07:44,548 --> 00:07:45,908 Speaker 2: Score points or get the hell out of here. 194 00:07:45,948 --> 00:07:46,228 Speaker 5: That's it. 195 00:07:46,428 --> 00:07:48,748 Speaker 1: That's all it is. Is a bottom line business. You 196 00:07:48,748 --> 00:07:50,228 Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of being the head coach. And 197 00:07:50,308 --> 00:07:52,388 Speaker 1: McDermott has a lot of luxuries right now. But he 198 00:07:52,428 --> 00:07:54,428 Speaker 1: worked his way to get there. Used to be a coordinator. 199 00:07:54,548 --> 00:07:56,628 Speaker 1: Teams wouldn't score on him because that's how he got 200 00:07:56,628 --> 00:07:59,268 Speaker 1: the job. The Ken Dorsey offenses are not scoring. Guys, 201 00:07:59,468 --> 00:08:02,708 Speaker 1: they're five and five. This is not where lazy five 202 00:08:02,748 --> 00:08:05,388 Speaker 1: and three. We'll figure it out. His first year here, 203 00:08:05,668 --> 00:08:07,948 Speaker 1: it is not working. Josh Allen doesn't look like the 204 00:08:07,988 --> 00:08:10,868 Speaker 1: same player. I think this is the right move, because 205 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:12,588 Speaker 1: by the way you're panicking, you're going about to go 206 00:08:12,628 --> 00:08:14,468 Speaker 1: five and six this weekend, and then five and seven, 207 00:08:14,468 --> 00:08:16,068 Speaker 1: and then you're the laughing stock, and let's talk about 208 00:08:16,108 --> 00:08:17,988 Speaker 1: the draft. You had to do something, you had to. 209 00:08:18,228 --> 00:08:20,868 Speaker 1: You're not benching Stefan Digg. You're not benching Josh Allen. 210 00:08:20,908 --> 00:08:22,628 Speaker 1: The only move at this point was to make a 211 00:08:22,708 --> 00:08:25,068 Speaker 1: change on offense. And I bet they're rejuvenated as hell, 212 00:08:25,068 --> 00:08:27,228 Speaker 1: and I bet Josh Allen runs his ass off next week. 213 00:08:27,268 --> 00:08:29,108 Speaker 1: I really do think it's the right move. I love Dorsey, 214 00:08:29,148 --> 00:08:31,508 Speaker 1: of course I grew up Dorsey. I don't celebrate it. 215 00:08:31,548 --> 00:08:32,388 Speaker 1: I think they had to do it. 216 00:08:32,628 --> 00:08:35,548 Speaker 3: You fully buy into the Josh Allen bounce back experience too, 217 00:08:35,668 --> 00:08:37,228 Speaker 3: like you think when he is down and out, like 218 00:08:37,308 --> 00:08:38,988 Speaker 3: he comes back with a vengeance, so. 219 00:08:39,668 --> 00:08:40,188 Speaker 5: He sucks two. 220 00:08:40,188 --> 00:08:42,828 Speaker 1: In your sceptions, they'll have five touchdowns and four hundred yards. 221 00:08:42,868 --> 00:08:44,588 Speaker 5: But we've been waiting for that for a month now. 222 00:08:44,628 --> 00:08:45,388 Speaker 2: It hasn't happened. 223 00:08:45,428 --> 00:08:47,948 Speaker 3: It's curious you say the last six the Bills haven't 224 00:08:47,948 --> 00:08:50,468 Speaker 3: amassed thirty points six in a row. The Ravens started 225 00:08:50,508 --> 00:08:52,388 Speaker 3: the season that way. They were having a hard time 226 00:08:52,428 --> 00:08:54,828 Speaker 3: having Lamar Jackson get over two and fifty yards. They 227 00:08:54,828 --> 00:08:57,148 Speaker 3: were having a hard time scoring thirty points. It took 228 00:08:57,188 --> 00:08:59,628 Speaker 3: a second for the Todd munkin offensive coordinator experience to 229 00:08:59,628 --> 00:09:01,428 Speaker 3: click in there. But he was brand new. He was 230 00:09:01,468 --> 00:09:03,588 Speaker 3: bringing a new offense. This is a new coordinator. This 231 00:09:03,668 --> 00:09:06,068 Speaker 3: was an offensive experience with the Bills that had a 232 00:09:06,148 --> 00:09:08,668 Speaker 3: standard that people were putting in a Super Bowl, winning 233 00:09:08,748 --> 00:09:11,028 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl for the last few years. This should 234 00:09:11,108 --> 00:09:13,908 Speaker 3: not have downshifted the way that we have seen it 235 00:09:14,148 --> 00:09:17,268 Speaker 3: from an offensive experience. Peter, it's curious that you say 236 00:09:17,268 --> 00:09:18,788 Speaker 3: the thing too as well about like they think they 237 00:09:18,788 --> 00:09:20,348 Speaker 3: can get it back on track. We had a conversation 238 00:09:20,348 --> 00:09:22,468 Speaker 3: about the Ravens again yesterday and how if. 239 00:09:22,348 --> 00:09:24,788 Speaker 6: They fix things, they can just get to January. 240 00:09:24,828 --> 00:09:26,628 Speaker 3: But sometimes that's not good enough, and the Bills must 241 00:09:26,668 --> 00:09:30,068 Speaker 3: have a standard here to not just make it to January. Like, 242 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:32,668 Speaker 3: is there a belief in the building that there are 243 00:09:32,788 --> 00:09:35,588 Speaker 3: the tools are there, It's just that the way the 244 00:09:35,588 --> 00:09:37,908 Speaker 3: tools are being utilized. That was like the general issue 245 00:09:37,908 --> 00:09:39,508 Speaker 3: because to your point, it kind of goes looks a 246 00:09:39,548 --> 00:09:40,788 Speaker 3: Shoan McDermott. 247 00:09:40,268 --> 00:09:41,828 Speaker 5: As well, Sure, I think there is. 248 00:09:41,868 --> 00:09:44,268 Speaker 8: I think they still believe that any wait in August 249 00:09:44,428 --> 00:09:45,268 Speaker 8: when we're at St. 250 00:09:45,268 --> 00:09:48,028 Speaker 5: Fisher's, like we believe, like we cauld like that we're 251 00:09:48,028 --> 00:09:50,548 Speaker 5: all still here. A curious thing with Joe Brady. There's 252 00:09:50,548 --> 00:09:51,428 Speaker 5: a cool story there too. 253 00:09:51,468 --> 00:09:53,508 Speaker 8: I mean, he was the hottest name people he know 254 00:09:53,508 --> 00:09:55,388 Speaker 8: if he's for head coaching jobs, and he was thirty 255 00:09:55,828 --> 00:09:59,028 Speaker 8: the hottest name in football that was fired quietly. And 256 00:09:59,028 --> 00:10:01,228 Speaker 8: then I was a quarterbacks coach and has been unheard 257 00:10:01,228 --> 00:10:03,428 Speaker 8: of the last two years. And now it's like, hey, 258 00:10:03,468 --> 00:10:05,548 Speaker 8: you've got Josh Allen, the premier talents in the league 259 00:10:05,628 --> 00:10:07,308 Speaker 8: and everyone's looking at you to fix this thing. 260 00:10:08,028 --> 00:10:09,068 Speaker 5: Is he up to that challenge? 261 00:10:09,228 --> 00:10:11,068 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, Sny personalized this for you. You have a 262 00:10:11,108 --> 00:10:11,948 Speaker 2: relationship with Kendorsa. 263 00:10:12,028 --> 00:10:13,508 Speaker 1: He's on your podcast, you spent a lot of time 264 00:10:13,508 --> 00:10:13,948 Speaker 1: talking to him. 265 00:10:13,948 --> 00:10:14,668 Speaker 2: Are you pissed right now? 266 00:10:14,708 --> 00:10:16,508 Speaker 5: Is he a fall guy? Was mindivals? No? 267 00:10:16,508 --> 00:10:18,268 Speaker 8: No, I think this is the business they sign up for. 268 00:10:18,788 --> 00:10:21,548 Speaker 8: And this was, to your point, six straight games not 269 00:10:21,668 --> 00:10:24,548 Speaker 8: scoring twenty and you know when you're he interviewed for 270 00:10:24,588 --> 00:10:27,028 Speaker 8: a head coaching job. Last year, Kendorsey gets fired. He 271 00:10:27,108 --> 00:10:28,628 Speaker 8: interviewed for the Carolina job. I mean, it's not like 272 00:10:28,668 --> 00:10:30,348 Speaker 8: this guy's a clown. Around the league, like he's still 273 00:10:30,428 --> 00:10:33,188 Speaker 8: very respected. Yesterday I saw a lot of you know, 274 00:10:33,308 --> 00:10:35,108 Speaker 8: Twitter is an ugly place. Usually a lot of people 275 00:10:35,108 --> 00:10:37,628 Speaker 8: have been like excited, like showing him throwing the eyepad 276 00:10:37,628 --> 00:10:39,068 Speaker 8: and all the thing, like they did a lot of 277 00:10:39,108 --> 00:10:41,108 Speaker 8: great things under Kendorsey and he was a quarterbacks coach 278 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:41,548 Speaker 8: when Dave. 279 00:10:42,868 --> 00:10:44,748 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this this sucks. 280 00:10:44,868 --> 00:10:47,308 Speaker 8: So Josh, he's got a family, he's got a wife, 281 00:10:47,308 --> 00:10:48,588 Speaker 8: and I mean it all sucks. 282 00:10:48,588 --> 00:10:50,468 Speaker 1: But you don't think this is an injustice like you're 283 00:10:50,468 --> 00:10:50,948 Speaker 1: fighting back. 284 00:10:51,268 --> 00:10:53,068 Speaker 5: I think I think it's understood if you're a Bills 285 00:10:53,068 --> 00:10:53,548 Speaker 5: fan something. 286 00:10:53,948 --> 00:10:55,788 Speaker 2: This is not about the Broncos game. You guys. 287 00:10:55,908 --> 00:10:58,428 Speaker 1: This started they scored fourteen against the Giants, like the 288 00:10:58,628 --> 00:11:01,068 Speaker 1: Giants defense. We just saw it last weekend. This I 289 00:11:01,068 --> 00:11:02,828 Speaker 1: think was going on for six weeks, maybe kind of 290 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:03,308 Speaker 1: all season. 291 00:11:03,348 --> 00:11:05,588 Speaker 3: So to Kyle's point, the job sh Allen thing is real. 292 00:11:05,628 --> 00:11:08,028 Speaker 3: You're not going to fire your franchise quarterback. But he 293 00:11:08,108 --> 00:11:10,708 Speaker 3: has not played up to the standard that everyone expected 294 00:11:10,748 --> 00:11:12,068 Speaker 3: Josh Allen so far this season. 295 00:11:12,068 --> 00:11:13,108 Speaker 6: It's been a roller coaster. 296 00:11:13,828 --> 00:11:15,788 Speaker 3: The fact that he leads the NFL in touchdowns, but 297 00:11:15,788 --> 00:11:18,308 Speaker 3: he also leads the NFL in giveaways, a list in 298 00:11:18,348 --> 00:11:21,028 Speaker 3: which he exists with Desmond Ritter and Mac Jones on 299 00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:23,948 Speaker 3: that's not where you want Josh Allen to live. Jason, 300 00:11:23,988 --> 00:11:26,468 Speaker 3: if you're in that building, do you have a conversation, 301 00:11:26,468 --> 00:11:29,308 Speaker 3: if you're Sean McDermott with Josh Allen about this first 302 00:11:29,308 --> 00:11:31,908 Speaker 3: and say, hey, what's going to put you in the 303 00:11:31,908 --> 00:11:34,228 Speaker 3: best headspace and physical space moving forward? 304 00:11:34,428 --> 00:11:35,428 Speaker 2: I definitely think you had. 305 00:11:35,708 --> 00:11:38,428 Speaker 4: I'm sure he had that conversation with Josh Allen before 306 00:11:38,748 --> 00:11:41,148 Speaker 4: the Ken Dorsey news hit. I don't know if he's 307 00:11:41,188 --> 00:11:43,428 Speaker 4: asking him his opinion on him, but probably just letting 308 00:11:43,468 --> 00:11:45,508 Speaker 4: him know, Hey, we're going to go with a chain here, 309 00:11:45,588 --> 00:11:46,948 Speaker 4: Joe Brady's going to be taken over. 310 00:11:47,268 --> 00:11:48,828 Speaker 2: This is the plan moving forward. 311 00:11:48,988 --> 00:11:51,268 Speaker 4: And I think for Josh Allen, everybody keeps talking about 312 00:11:51,268 --> 00:11:54,068 Speaker 4: his interceptions, and that's who he is. Part of his 313 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:56,988 Speaker 4: game is that he's going to throw interceptions as he 314 00:11:57,028 --> 00:11:59,628 Speaker 4: takes chances because he truly believes in his arm and 315 00:11:59,708 --> 00:12:01,388 Speaker 4: he believes in the guys that are out there. 316 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:01,748 Speaker 9: Now. 317 00:12:01,748 --> 00:12:03,868 Speaker 4: Whether that's acceptable or not to you, that's up to 318 00:12:03,868 --> 00:12:05,948 Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. I think the tough thing with that 319 00:12:06,108 --> 00:12:08,828 Speaker 4: quarterback position. We did it with Dak Prescott. Last year, 320 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:10,628 Speaker 4: we talked about his interceptions and this, that and the 321 00:12:10,668 --> 00:12:13,428 Speaker 4: third Dak Prescott gives the Dallas Cowboys the best chance 322 00:12:13,428 --> 00:12:15,748 Speaker 4: at winning week in and week out. For the Buffalo 323 00:12:15,828 --> 00:12:18,708 Speaker 4: Bills right now, there's no question Josh Allen gives them 324 00:12:18,708 --> 00:12:19,948 Speaker 4: the best chance to win. 325 00:12:20,108 --> 00:12:20,748 Speaker 2: So I don't think. 326 00:12:20,668 --> 00:12:23,548 Speaker 4: There's a conversation where now you're sitting Josh Allen down saying, hey, 327 00:12:23,548 --> 00:12:25,708 Speaker 4: we can't turn the ball over. You're trying to figure 328 00:12:25,748 --> 00:12:28,308 Speaker 4: out ways that with the turnovers to still put up 329 00:12:28,588 --> 00:12:31,148 Speaker 4: enough points to win football games, because I don't see 330 00:12:31,268 --> 00:12:33,188 Speaker 4: now Joe Brady coming over and all of a sudden 331 00:12:33,308 --> 00:12:35,668 Speaker 4: his interceptions just go way down. That's always going to 332 00:12:35,668 --> 00:12:36,348 Speaker 4: be a part of his game. 333 00:12:36,628 --> 00:12:39,388 Speaker 3: This is also considering the AFC East as an entirety. 334 00:12:39,468 --> 00:12:41,908 Speaker 3: The season has just been raped for the taking, and 335 00:12:41,988 --> 00:12:43,708 Speaker 3: the Bills could have run away with it had they 336 00:12:43,788 --> 00:12:45,508 Speaker 3: had their heads on straight to start the season. 337 00:12:45,548 --> 00:12:48,908 Speaker 6: But it's still up for grabs across the board. Breaking 338 00:12:48,988 --> 00:12:49,868 Speaker 6: news out of. 339 00:12:49,828 --> 00:12:52,708 Speaker 3: The NFL after the Browns beat the Ravens last weekend 340 00:12:52,708 --> 00:12:55,828 Speaker 3: in prolific style, Ian Reppaport's going to join us now 341 00:12:55,868 --> 00:13:00,068 Speaker 3: because Deshaun Watson's season, despite returning from injury last weekend 342 00:13:00,428 --> 00:13:01,948 Speaker 3: has taken attorney and what's going on. 343 00:13:02,348 --> 00:13:05,348 Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson is now out for the season for the 344 00:13:05,388 --> 00:13:08,268 Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns. He has headed to injury reserve, but not 345 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:10,588 Speaker 7: because of the ankle injury that he suffered in the 346 00:13:10,628 --> 00:13:13,988 Speaker 7: first half of that dramatic one on Sunday. He actually 347 00:13:14,068 --> 00:13:18,028 Speaker 7: suffered a fractured shoulder, a fracturer in the Glenoyd bone 348 00:13:18,348 --> 00:13:21,028 Speaker 7: in his shoulder, something we did not know at the time, 349 00:13:21,148 --> 00:13:24,108 Speaker 7: something Watson also played through. He is now headed for 350 00:13:24,348 --> 00:13:27,588 Speaker 7: season ending surgery, expected. 351 00:13:27,068 --> 00:13:28,228 Speaker 5: To make a full recovery. 352 00:13:28,228 --> 00:13:30,308 Speaker 7: But for the Cleveland Browns, one of the better teams 353 00:13:30,308 --> 00:13:32,828 Speaker 7: in the NFL certainly boasts one of the best defenses. 354 00:13:33,068 --> 00:13:34,028 Speaker 5: Now we'll have PJ. 355 00:13:34,268 --> 00:13:37,628 Speaker 7: Walker in as their starting quarterback with Watson out for 356 00:13:37,748 --> 00:13:38,228 Speaker 7: the season. 357 00:13:38,948 --> 00:13:42,228 Speaker 3: I do you know, is it a subsequent injury from 358 00:13:42,228 --> 00:13:44,988 Speaker 3: what he was dealing with from that shoulder earlier this season. 359 00:13:45,548 --> 00:13:48,068 Speaker 7: At this point, it is unclear if those two injuries 360 00:13:48,148 --> 00:13:51,108 Speaker 7: are related. It is a right shoulder injury, but we 361 00:13:51,188 --> 00:13:53,708 Speaker 7: don't know if one injury led to the other. We 362 00:13:53,788 --> 00:13:56,868 Speaker 7: also don't know or don't believe that the ankle injury 363 00:13:57,068 --> 00:13:59,028 Speaker 7: or favoring that it all led to this at all. 364 00:13:59,068 --> 00:14:03,028 Speaker 7: It's just a bunch of different unfortunate injuries for Deshaun Watson. 365 00:14:03,108 --> 00:14:05,268 Speaker 6: All right, rap, she thank you, We appreciate it. 366 00:14:05,308 --> 00:14:08,108 Speaker 3: That is really really brutal news because as we mentioned, 367 00:14:08,148 --> 00:14:09,948 Speaker 3: the way the Browns beat the Ravens last weekend, you 368 00:14:09,948 --> 00:14:13,148 Speaker 3: were like, they're back, They're good. The division could be theirs, Peter, 369 00:14:13,308 --> 00:14:14,788 Speaker 3: where do the Browns go quarterback wise? 370 00:14:15,308 --> 00:14:16,028 Speaker 5: To first the injury? 371 00:14:16,068 --> 00:14:17,548 Speaker 2: So Ela Trosh is going to work on it. 372 00:14:17,588 --> 00:14:19,908 Speaker 5: Also, that's the key here. So Ela Trosh is the one. 373 00:14:19,788 --> 00:14:22,788 Speaker 8: Who also did Aaron Rodgers's achilles and is known as 374 00:14:22,788 --> 00:14:24,668 Speaker 8: one of the leading specialists. He's out in LA So 375 00:14:24,708 --> 00:14:28,188 Speaker 8: it's Watson, it's Vus who's the doctor in Cleveland who 376 00:14:28,628 --> 00:14:30,228 Speaker 8: we were thinking about we're gonna have on the show 377 00:14:30,228 --> 00:14:33,428 Speaker 8: first totally separate reason today and then Ela Trosh is 378 00:14:33,428 --> 00:14:34,828 Speaker 8: going to come in as the expert as well, and 379 00:14:34,828 --> 00:14:36,068 Speaker 8: there's going to be a group thing here. But to 380 00:14:36,068 --> 00:14:38,508 Speaker 8: Ian's point, I saw the ankle go down. I thought 381 00:14:38,508 --> 00:14:40,268 Speaker 8: this when I first saw Watson out for the year, 382 00:14:40,308 --> 00:14:41,788 Speaker 8: I thought it might have been the ankle because he. 383 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:44,508 Speaker 5: Was hobbling throughout the game. It's the shoulders. Good question, Jamie. 384 00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:47,308 Speaker 8: I don't know if it's related to the previous shoulder gosh, 385 00:14:47,348 --> 00:14:49,028 Speaker 8: I mean Dobbs and Brissett or elsewhere. 386 00:14:49,108 --> 00:14:50,628 Speaker 5: They sure could use him. Now we'll see if PJ. 387 00:14:50,748 --> 00:14:51,588 Speaker 5: Walker can do the job. 388 00:14:51,748 --> 00:14:52,508 Speaker 2: Yeah, tough blow. 389 00:14:52,548 --> 00:14:54,348 Speaker 4: And to your point, you watched that game and what 390 00:14:54,388 --> 00:14:56,668 Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson was able to do in the second half. 391 00:14:56,708 --> 00:14:59,828 Speaker 4: He didn't have an incompletion in hemp, scrambling making plays. 392 00:14:59,828 --> 00:15:00,948 Speaker 2: It seemed like, all right. 393 00:15:01,108 --> 00:15:03,668 Speaker 4: Cleveland's kind of turning the corner and now it's PJ 394 00:15:03,788 --> 00:15:04,988 Speaker 4: Walker tom So for them. 395 00:15:05,148 --> 00:15:05,468 Speaker 1: Appre J. 396 00:15:05,668 --> 00:15:07,828 Speaker 2: Walker has won some games, not a ton of experience. 397 00:15:07,868 --> 00:15:10,308 Speaker 4: He's been around for a long time actually as a starter, 398 00:15:10,428 --> 00:15:12,748 Speaker 4: But I got to try to come together around him. 399 00:15:12,788 --> 00:15:14,508 Speaker 2: That defense is special to see what they can do. 400 00:15:14,988 --> 00:15:18,108 Speaker 1: Lightning strike. Very disappointed for the Browns fans today. They're 401 00:15:18,148 --> 00:15:20,508 Speaker 1: round on the corner. They got a team. It's kind 402 00:15:20,508 --> 00:15:22,548 Speaker 1: of similar in the AFC, like with what the Lions 403 00:15:22,548 --> 00:15:24,268 Speaker 1: have the NFC, Like, oh my god, we've waited so 404 00:15:24,348 --> 00:15:25,588 Speaker 1: long and we have a really good team. 405 00:15:25,668 --> 00:15:27,868 Speaker 5: Now the backup quarterback thing will sort out. 406 00:15:27,988 --> 00:15:30,428 Speaker 1: This is a really really big setback and disappointing news 407 00:15:30,428 --> 00:15:31,068 Speaker 1: for Browns fans. 408 00:15:31,068 --> 00:15:31,508 Speaker 2: I hate it. 409 00:15:31,588 --> 00:15:33,948 Speaker 3: My parallel went to, it's what the Jets are dealing with, 410 00:15:34,068 --> 00:15:36,348 Speaker 3: really good defense, and now can they rely on a 411 00:15:36,428 --> 00:15:39,028 Speaker 3: quarterback that maybe can get them there, get them to 412 00:15:39,108 --> 00:15:41,388 Speaker 3: a point where the Browns find themselves in the postseason. 413 00:15:41,388 --> 00:15:43,588 Speaker 3: But Aaron Rodgers is coming back to the Jets. Maybe 414 00:15:43,628 --> 00:15:46,988 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson unable to come back after this season ending 415 00:15:47,068 --> 00:15:49,708 Speaker 3: shoulder surgery, and Ian Rapport just told us we'll have 416 00:15:49,748 --> 00:15:52,668 Speaker 3: more on the injury, the subsequent procedure, and where the 417 00:15:52,708 --> 00:15:55,228 Speaker 3: Browns go from here at the quarterback position and beyond 418 00:15:55,468 --> 00:15:58,628 Speaker 3: when Good Morning Football returns on Wednesday, Breaking News Edition. 419 00:15:59,508 --> 00:16:01,428 Speaker 3: This is a tough gut and the AFC North just 420 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:17,508 Speaker 3: got a lot more interesting. It's a quarterback battle, quarterback duel, 421 00:16:17,588 --> 00:16:20,348 Speaker 3: if you will, between two of the game's most exciting players. 422 00:16:20,428 --> 00:16:22,908 Speaker 3: It's Joe Burrow in the Cincinati Bengals taking on Lamar 423 00:16:23,028 --> 00:16:24,428 Speaker 3: Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. 424 00:16:24,508 --> 00:16:25,868 Speaker 6: Bengals Ravens take two. 425 00:16:26,228 --> 00:16:29,308 Speaker 3: There's a Night Football tomorrow eight fifteen pm Eastern only 426 00:16:29,508 --> 00:16:33,308 Speaker 3: on Prime Video catch up the six and three Steelers. 427 00:16:33,628 --> 00:16:37,268 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin spoke about his quarterback, Kenny Pickett, and we're 428 00:16:37,268 --> 00:16:38,828 Speaker 3: heading into a crucial matchup. 429 00:16:38,908 --> 00:16:40,228 Speaker 6: Let's hear from Mike Tomin. 430 00:16:40,228 --> 00:16:43,228 Speaker 10: We're gonna need more, particularly as this road narrows. But 431 00:16:43,548 --> 00:16:46,028 Speaker 10: guys like Kenny and myself, man, we're measured by wins 432 00:16:46,028 --> 00:16:49,548 Speaker 10: and losses. He and I talk about that often and openly. 433 00:16:49,908 --> 00:16:52,428 Speaker 10: We know what our jobs are. Our jobs are to win, 434 00:16:52,748 --> 00:16:56,468 Speaker 10: and so that's where we are, that's where our focus is. 435 00:16:56,868 --> 00:16:59,508 Speaker 10: You know. I love the fact that he embraces that 436 00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:02,348 Speaker 10: down in and down out. Are there some things to 437 00:17:02,388 --> 00:17:05,348 Speaker 10: work on, certainly, but it's not like we're going to 438 00:17:05,388 --> 00:17:09,588 Speaker 10: start on Wednesday working on those things. We've been working 439 00:17:09,588 --> 00:17:11,428 Speaker 10: on those things and we will continue until we get 440 00:17:11,428 --> 00:17:12,228 Speaker 10: the desired result. 441 00:17:13,228 --> 00:17:17,108 Speaker 3: Sunday at one o'clock on CBS Pittsburgh at Browns, that 442 00:17:17,268 --> 00:17:18,508 Speaker 3: was Mike Tomlin, the coach. 443 00:17:18,308 --> 00:17:19,948 Speaker 6: Of the Steelers, talking. 444 00:17:20,468 --> 00:17:21,068 Speaker 11: What are our. 445 00:17:20,908 --> 00:17:23,068 Speaker 3: Thoughts on Tomalin's saying he needs to see more from 446 00:17:23,068 --> 00:17:26,108 Speaker 3: his team Jason and specifically Kenny Pickett. 447 00:17:26,188 --> 00:17:27,348 Speaker 2: I think it makes a lot of sense. 448 00:17:27,388 --> 00:17:29,508 Speaker 4: And the one thing about the Pittsburgh Steelers if they 449 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:32,188 Speaker 4: have found ways to win football games, even so much 450 00:17:32,228 --> 00:17:34,268 Speaker 4: that they've been outgained in a lot of games and 451 00:17:34,268 --> 00:17:36,508 Speaker 4: they still find a way to come up with more points. 452 00:17:36,588 --> 00:17:38,868 Speaker 4: But at the same time, Kenny Pickett has just six 453 00:17:38,948 --> 00:17:42,148 Speaker 4: touchdown passes. That's tied with Desmond Rhetor. That's just one 454 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:45,068 Speaker 4: more than Zach Wilson at the quarterback position. For the 455 00:17:45,068 --> 00:17:47,308 Speaker 4: Steelers to get to where they ultimately want to get, 456 00:17:47,588 --> 00:17:49,388 Speaker 4: you're gonna need more production. 457 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,468 Speaker 2: From Kenny Pickett. Yes, he shows up in the fourth quarter. 458 00:17:51,628 --> 00:17:54,308 Speaker 4: I know he hasn't given the other team many opportunities 459 00:17:54,348 --> 00:17:56,148 Speaker 4: because he's taking care of the football. But they're just 460 00:17:56,148 --> 00:17:57,948 Speaker 4: gonna need more production on offensive side. 461 00:17:58,108 --> 00:18:01,988 Speaker 5: Oh, you glass half empty pessimists. 462 00:18:02,428 --> 00:18:05,548 Speaker 8: There are thirty four quarterback have played enough snaps to 463 00:18:05,628 --> 00:18:08,708 Speaker 8: qualify for statistic you have only one of them has 464 00:18:08,748 --> 00:18:10,908 Speaker 8: committed fewer than five turnover. 465 00:18:10,948 --> 00:18:11,388 Speaker 2: Who is it? 466 00:18:11,548 --> 00:18:12,828 Speaker 5: That's Kenny Pickett with four? 467 00:18:13,228 --> 00:18:13,988 Speaker 6: How did you know that? 468 00:18:14,228 --> 00:18:16,508 Speaker 1: I saw the same note and I was fascinated by 469 00:18:16,508 --> 00:18:19,428 Speaker 1: it and the reactions. Fascinating people because he never throws it. 470 00:18:19,428 --> 00:18:21,428 Speaker 2: That's because he sucks, because he never does six and three. 471 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:22,468 Speaker 5: He's got four turnovers. 472 00:18:22,588 --> 00:18:22,748 Speaker 2: Yeah. 473 00:18:22,788 --> 00:18:24,148 Speaker 5: How many wins does he have? Yeah? 474 00:18:24,188 --> 00:18:28,268 Speaker 2: Six? How many does your favorite team have? Six wins? Fine? 475 00:18:28,388 --> 00:18:28,828 Speaker 2: I don't care. 476 00:18:28,948 --> 00:18:33,308 Speaker 4: Tomas said he needs more, and he needs more, maybe more. 477 00:18:33,108 --> 00:18:35,068 Speaker 6: From the from the jump. You know, maybe that's what 478 00:18:35,068 --> 00:18:35,508 Speaker 6: he's like. 479 00:18:36,468 --> 00:18:41,308 Speaker 1: No, yeahs three, I know, but eventually you're picking him 480 00:18:41,348 --> 00:18:43,348 Speaker 1: the win at all. He has fewer than five turnovers 481 00:18:43,388 --> 00:18:45,428 Speaker 1: and nobody else has that. He doesn't turn the ball over. 482 00:18:45,468 --> 00:18:46,108 Speaker 2: They're running the ball. 483 00:18:46,148 --> 00:18:47,668 Speaker 5: They're run the hell out of the boat right now. Now, 484 00:18:47,708 --> 00:18:50,708 Speaker 5: she's been awesome and Lawren's been awesome. Everything's fine, against 485 00:18:50,748 --> 00:18:51,828 Speaker 5: keep going, that's true. 486 00:18:52,188 --> 00:18:52,428 Speaker 12: Fine. 487 00:18:52,708 --> 00:18:56,588 Speaker 9: Good morning football is presented by old trapper beef jerky. 488 00:18:56,948 --> 00:18:57,788 Speaker 4: What's your beef? 489 00:18:59,868 --> 00:19:01,748 Speaker 6: All right, it's cipher. What's your beef? 490 00:19:01,828 --> 00:19:05,548 Speaker 3: Presented by old trapper beef jerf geat Typically in this segment, 491 00:19:05,708 --> 00:19:09,348 Speaker 3: I snack, I listen, I think about it, and then 492 00:19:09,348 --> 00:19:12,588 Speaker 3: I respond, Kyle's gonna take it away now with the original. 493 00:19:12,588 --> 00:19:14,308 Speaker 6: You and I both are fans of the old fashions 494 00:19:14,308 --> 00:19:15,988 Speaker 6: like the og Yeah, the old. 495 00:19:15,748 --> 00:19:19,068 Speaker 3: Fashioned old trapper beef jerkey son and after a while 496 00:19:19,588 --> 00:19:20,068 Speaker 3: and listen to. 497 00:19:20,068 --> 00:19:20,868 Speaker 2: My beef gone. 498 00:19:21,068 --> 00:19:23,508 Speaker 3: So my beef is something that's kind of a bummer 499 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:25,668 Speaker 3: in the unfel sad cow disease. If you will, My 500 00:19:25,788 --> 00:19:28,348 Speaker 3: beef is with how bad the Patriots have become? 501 00:19:28,628 --> 00:19:29,228 Speaker 6: Bumming me out. 502 00:19:30,108 --> 00:19:32,308 Speaker 3: Before you roll your eyes, let me just present to 503 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:36,108 Speaker 3: you why you got the Lakers, the Yankees, really, any 504 00:19:36,148 --> 00:19:39,508 Speaker 3: of the Canadian hockey teams, and the Patriots. These teams 505 00:19:39,628 --> 00:19:42,388 Speaker 3: all have a common thread. It's good for basketball if 506 00:19:42,428 --> 00:19:45,268 Speaker 3: the Lakers are good, If the Yankees are good, it's 507 00:19:45,308 --> 00:19:47,548 Speaker 3: great for baseball when the Patriots were good. 508 00:19:47,868 --> 00:19:48,908 Speaker 6: Football is better. 509 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:51,508 Speaker 3: For the last near quarter of a century, the Patriots 510 00:19:51,548 --> 00:19:54,508 Speaker 3: have won and they're fans both home and abroad have 511 00:19:54,748 --> 00:19:55,108 Speaker 3: loved it. 512 00:19:55,348 --> 00:19:57,948 Speaker 6: They're rabid. This fan base is in New England. 513 00:19:58,068 --> 00:20:00,748 Speaker 3: And to counter that, the haters plentiful that they are 514 00:20:00,988 --> 00:20:03,748 Speaker 3: when the Pats are good. The haters love when their 515 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:07,828 Speaker 3: team beat the Patriots. Competition breeds excellence. Has a similar 516 00:20:07,868 --> 00:20:10,148 Speaker 3: feel to the Cowboys as well. It's like, we want 517 00:20:10,188 --> 00:20:12,228 Speaker 3: you to be good because when you lose, if you're good, 518 00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:14,308 Speaker 3: makes your team better, It makes you feistier. 519 00:20:14,428 --> 00:20:16,548 Speaker 6: And this is not just the fans Belichick's. 520 00:20:16,588 --> 00:20:20,188 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's influence of winning has spread throughout the league 521 00:20:20,188 --> 00:20:22,068 Speaker 3: over the last twenty five years as well. In the 522 00:20:22,108 --> 00:20:25,468 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick era from two thousand to today, eight of 523 00:20:25,548 --> 00:20:28,828 Speaker 3: his assistant coaches who worked for Bill Belichick were hired 524 00:20:28,868 --> 00:20:31,188 Speaker 3: as head coaches after their time in New England. Eight 525 00:20:31,548 --> 00:20:35,988 Speaker 3: you've got Romeo Credell, Mangini, Bill O'Brien, Matt Patricia, Brian Flores, 526 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:38,468 Speaker 3: Joe Judge, Josh McDaniels, and Brian Dabele. 527 00:20:39,028 --> 00:20:40,708 Speaker 6: The league bought into. 528 00:20:40,588 --> 00:20:44,188 Speaker 3: Bill's winning influence by hiring his disciples, his style, his 529 00:20:44,308 --> 00:20:47,788 Speaker 3: steadfast dedication to a standard that kept every single one 530 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:50,788 Speaker 3: of his players, including Tom Brady, in line. But mostly 531 00:20:50,868 --> 00:20:52,868 Speaker 3: it was his winning that they wanted to replicate. And 532 00:20:52,908 --> 00:20:54,548 Speaker 3: that's what the rest of the NFL tried to do, 533 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:56,948 Speaker 3: and they would pluck his assistants and give them the 534 00:20:56,988 --> 00:20:59,548 Speaker 3: big office in their town. Eight of them were hired. 535 00:21:00,028 --> 00:21:02,388 Speaker 3: One is left over still and that's Brian Dable. So 536 00:21:02,588 --> 00:21:05,828 Speaker 3: is the Patriot way a thing of the past. Belichick's 537 00:21:05,868 --> 00:21:08,468 Speaker 3: attention to detail kind of sounds frustrating to be a 538 00:21:08,508 --> 00:21:10,228 Speaker 3: part of, but we also are kind of addicted to 539 00:21:10,348 --> 00:21:12,468 Speaker 3: learning more about it. It's why we always pepper Jason 540 00:21:12,548 --> 00:21:15,828 Speaker 3: with questions about meeting times or decorum. Not when he 541 00:21:16,028 --> 00:21:18,508 Speaker 3: was with Tennessee or Cleveland or Miami. We always ask him, 542 00:21:18,708 --> 00:21:21,788 Speaker 3: but how would Bill do it? Whatever the way was 543 00:21:22,108 --> 00:21:23,988 Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be working anymore, and that's kind of 544 00:21:23,988 --> 00:21:26,468 Speaker 3: a sad state of affairs for football I think changes 545 00:21:26,548 --> 00:21:28,308 Speaker 3: need to come in New England. I think it starts 546 00:21:28,308 --> 00:21:29,428 Speaker 3: with Bill Belichick at. 547 00:21:29,348 --> 00:21:30,268 Speaker 6: The end of the season. 548 00:21:30,788 --> 00:21:32,988 Speaker 3: But I also believe that the Patriot way can be 549 00:21:33,148 --> 00:21:36,148 Speaker 3: replicated the way the Brady winning a Lombardi way was. 550 00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:38,588 Speaker 3: So why can't Bill do it somewhere else? I want 551 00:21:38,588 --> 00:21:40,308 Speaker 3: to see him coach somewhere in the NFL. And I 552 00:21:40,348 --> 00:21:44,108 Speaker 3: would have beef with Belichick going out this way and 553 00:21:44,268 --> 00:21:46,108 Speaker 3: just being done coaching, because I think he needs to 554 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:46,948 Speaker 3: exist elsewhere. 555 00:21:47,548 --> 00:21:50,228 Speaker 2: I love it. Football needs knowing them to be good. 556 00:21:50,348 --> 00:21:52,228 Speaker 3: I think they do because it's annoying when they're good, 557 00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:53,148 Speaker 3: and it's great when they're good. 558 00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:54,388 Speaker 6: It can it both can exist. 559 00:21:54,908 --> 00:21:57,788 Speaker 8: Howard a line from the movie Private Parts and says 560 00:21:57,948 --> 00:21:59,788 Speaker 8: got the number one ratings, and they do the research, 561 00:21:59,828 --> 00:22:01,908 Speaker 8: and the frustrating thing is fifty percent of the people 562 00:22:02,028 --> 00:22:03,868 Speaker 8: listen to him because they love him. 563 00:22:04,468 --> 00:22:05,948 Speaker 2: Fifty percent of the people. 564 00:22:05,788 --> 00:22:07,628 Speaker 5: Listen to him because they hate him. 565 00:22:07,788 --> 00:22:09,548 Speaker 8: Yes, but one hundred percent of the people are listening 566 00:22:10,388 --> 00:22:13,788 Speaker 8: to have that game on Sunday obviously, with you guys 567 00:22:14,228 --> 00:22:16,308 Speaker 8: ten to six loss to the Colt's arrival of there 568 00:22:16,428 --> 00:22:18,908 Speaker 8: the last twenty years arguably, and it's nothing against the 569 00:22:18,908 --> 00:22:20,868 Speaker 8: broadcast the worst football game we've seen all season. 570 00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:21,468 Speaker 2: I would played that. 571 00:22:21,988 --> 00:22:23,988 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the worst football game, and we all 572 00:22:24,028 --> 00:22:26,028 Speaker 5: watched it as a country. It was dreadful. 573 00:22:26,108 --> 00:22:28,868 Speaker 8: The football was terrible, the mental errors were terrible. Everything 574 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:30,868 Speaker 8: was bad about it. To see that logo and. 575 00:22:30,868 --> 00:22:32,628 Speaker 5: That man on the sideline, Jamie, it's just weird. 576 00:22:32,908 --> 00:22:34,428 Speaker 6: It's awkward. It is awkward. 577 00:22:34,508 --> 00:22:36,588 Speaker 3: And there was a reason why I believe this was 578 00:22:36,668 --> 00:22:39,828 Speaker 3: like the lowest viewed World Series because the Texas Rangers 579 00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:41,868 Speaker 3: and the Arizona Diamondbacks, like, don't really do it for 580 00:22:41,988 --> 00:22:44,668 Speaker 3: the nation. Certain brands do and it might be because 581 00:22:44,668 --> 00:22:46,588 Speaker 3: you hate them, but you also watch because you hate 582 00:22:46,628 --> 00:22:46,908 Speaker 3: them too. 583 00:22:47,028 --> 00:22:47,228 Speaker 2: Yeah. 584 00:22:47,388 --> 00:22:49,388 Speaker 1: Also the World Series because it's baseball and this is 585 00:22:49,428 --> 00:22:50,268 Speaker 1: not nineteen eighty six. 586 00:22:50,428 --> 00:22:51,468 Speaker 2: Watch in this country. 587 00:22:51,668 --> 00:22:53,828 Speaker 1: The joy you're supposed to beginning now is you're supposed 588 00:22:53,828 --> 00:22:55,468 Speaker 1: to be loving the Patriots sucking. 589 00:22:55,668 --> 00:22:56,668 Speaker 5: You're supposed to love. 590 00:22:56,588 --> 00:22:58,068 Speaker 2: This Jets fans should be like, yeah, yeah. 591 00:22:58,188 --> 00:23:01,388 Speaker 1: But there's a funny dynamic that Bill Simmons and cousin 592 00:23:01,508 --> 00:23:04,748 Speaker 1: sal have Simmons Patriots fam where He's like, I love 593 00:23:04,828 --> 00:23:07,388 Speaker 1: this season, We're thanking, I'm happy, and Cousins sound. 594 00:23:07,268 --> 00:23:08,068 Speaker 5: Was like this is be us. 595 00:23:08,188 --> 00:23:09,828 Speaker 2: We don't even get to enjoy you suffering. 596 00:23:10,068 --> 00:23:11,868 Speaker 1: This is the worst kind because you're losing and you're 597 00:23:12,028 --> 00:23:12,708 Speaker 1: still happy. 598 00:23:13,068 --> 00:23:14,228 Speaker 2: So it's like they pulled it off. 599 00:23:14,348 --> 00:23:15,708 Speaker 5: Yeah. I can't keep getting away with that. 600 00:23:16,828 --> 00:23:19,908 Speaker 6: Will Will Selva, what's up with you? One of these 601 00:23:19,988 --> 00:23:21,748 Speaker 6: days we'll get you one of these bags of beef jerkey. 602 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,668 Speaker 13: Yeah, would love some of that. Love what you had 603 00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:27,028 Speaker 13: to say, Jamie. People do love to hate. And the 604 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:29,588 Speaker 13: best part is when they love to hate because that's 605 00:23:29,628 --> 00:23:31,988 Speaker 13: what they do. Then they tweet about it and they 606 00:23:32,068 --> 00:23:34,788 Speaker 13: post about it. So if you hate something, why are 607 00:23:34,828 --> 00:23:38,108 Speaker 13: you tweeting about it? That always fascinates me because you 608 00:23:38,228 --> 00:23:40,988 Speaker 13: are really watching when you say you weren't. That's the 609 00:23:41,068 --> 00:23:42,028 Speaker 13: best part of the show. 610 00:23:42,348 --> 00:23:42,748 Speaker 10: I love it. 611 00:23:43,148 --> 00:23:46,828 Speaker 13: Enjoy the beef jerky and great tag there in studio 612 00:23:47,068 --> 00:23:51,268 Speaker 13: Jmac once again Well. The Browns getting some tough news 613 00:23:51,868 --> 00:23:56,628 Speaker 13: this morning, as quarterback Deshaun Watson will undergo season ending 614 00:23:56,908 --> 00:24:00,908 Speaker 13: shoulder surgery now, the team releasing a statement saying Watson 615 00:24:01,068 --> 00:24:05,028 Speaker 13: underwent an MRIAH on Monday that revealed a shoulder fracture 616 00:24:05,108 --> 00:24:08,468 Speaker 13: suffered in the first half of Sunday's win over the Ravens. 617 00:24:08,828 --> 00:24:11,268 Speaker 2: In addition, to that high ankle spray. 618 00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:15,428 Speaker 12: Now the injury will require immediate surgery, but Watson is 619 00:24:15,508 --> 00:24:18,548 Speaker 12: expected to be ready for the start of the twenty 620 00:24:18,628 --> 00:24:22,668 Speaker 12: twenty fourth season. The Texans offense obviously been a huge 621 00:24:22,748 --> 00:24:25,348 Speaker 12: part of the turnaround at Houston, but the d has 622 00:24:25,468 --> 00:24:28,428 Speaker 12: made great strides as well, thanks in part to defense 623 00:24:28,428 --> 00:24:31,188 Speaker 12: eve end Will Anderson junior friend of the Show. He 624 00:24:31,348 --> 00:24:34,468 Speaker 12: joined the Insiders on Tuesday and talked about putting their 625 00:24:34,548 --> 00:24:37,908 Speaker 12: past behind them and continuing to build on their successes. 626 00:24:38,868 --> 00:24:40,868 Speaker 9: We don't even talk about what happened last year, like 627 00:24:40,908 --> 00:24:42,908 Speaker 9: we're all we're only worried about life. These are the 628 00:24:42,948 --> 00:24:45,348 Speaker 9: strides that we're making. This what's going on right now, 629 00:24:45,468 --> 00:24:47,228 Speaker 9: just how we're going to continue to bring great And 630 00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:49,268 Speaker 9: it's just been the consistency. And I think that's just 631 00:24:49,348 --> 00:24:51,788 Speaker 9: been the beauty of it. Like guys are hungry, guys 632 00:24:51,868 --> 00:24:54,228 Speaker 9: are starving, Like guys can see how good we can 633 00:24:54,268 --> 00:24:55,828 Speaker 9: be when we're all on the same page and see 634 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:58,268 Speaker 9: the success we can have when we're all doing things 635 00:24:58,308 --> 00:25:00,548 Speaker 9: the right way and buying into the system. So it's 636 00:25:00,588 --> 00:25:01,868 Speaker 9: been a beautiful thing to see. 637 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:02,508 Speaker 10: Men and the guys. 638 00:25:02,988 --> 00:25:05,788 Speaker 9: Man, I can't say enough things about this group man, 639 00:25:05,828 --> 00:25:07,468 Speaker 9: because it just gives me chills and then make me 640 00:25:07,588 --> 00:25:10,188 Speaker 9: just want to start playing right now, because like everybody's 641 00:25:10,228 --> 00:25:12,588 Speaker 9: so hungry and so eager just to afford an opportunity 642 00:25:12,628 --> 00:25:13,468 Speaker 9: to keep going out. 643 00:25:13,388 --> 00:25:13,828 Speaker 4: There and get it. 644 00:25:13,988 --> 00:25:31,748 Speaker 11: Very good morning, tic tic tick. 645 00:25:31,868 --> 00:25:33,668 Speaker 6: That's a Kyle Brandt highlight clock. 646 00:25:33,828 --> 00:25:35,788 Speaker 3: But we're counting down the days to the John Medden 647 00:25:35,828 --> 00:25:38,828 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving celebration. It all starts a week from tomorrow, Packers 648 00:25:38,948 --> 00:25:43,388 Speaker 3: lines midday Fox, then mid afternoon Commanders, Cowboys on CBS, 649 00:25:44,028 --> 00:25:47,108 Speaker 3: and then a nightcap forty nine or Seahawks on NBC. 650 00:25:47,668 --> 00:25:50,428 Speaker 6: You can stream all those games on NFL Plus and 651 00:25:50,548 --> 00:25:51,468 Speaker 6: we kick things off right here. 652 00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:54,348 Speaker 1: Here's your Thanksgiving rundown schedule. Jared fid you like the 653 00:25:54,388 --> 00:25:56,068 Speaker 1: looks at the NFL network programming that day. 654 00:25:56,188 --> 00:25:58,708 Speaker 2: This looks great to me. I'm all in that's right, 655 00:25:59,068 --> 00:25:59,188 Speaker 2: you know. 656 00:25:59,748 --> 00:26:02,268 Speaker 1: And my early Yeah, that's right, started with OSK all 657 00:26:02,308 --> 00:26:04,308 Speaker 1: the way through the day, game day, game day, highlights, highlights, 658 00:26:04,428 --> 00:26:06,028 Speaker 1: final It's all you need one stop shopping. 659 00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:06,548 Speaker 9: It's the best. 660 00:26:06,748 --> 00:26:08,588 Speaker 3: Jared, do you know what you are going to be doing? 661 00:26:08,628 --> 00:26:11,148 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you tonight at nine pm Eastern 662 00:26:11,348 --> 00:26:12,228 Speaker 3: what will I be doing? 663 00:26:12,508 --> 00:26:15,788 Speaker 6: Watching ABC? Because Kyle Brandt's gonna be on Real Fortune. 664 00:26:15,868 --> 00:26:18,948 Speaker 5: Oh my god, the c students Jeopardy. 665 00:26:19,108 --> 00:26:22,428 Speaker 2: That's right. I'm so excited for you. 666 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,588 Speaker 1: I'm a wheel guy, A wheel got to you very 667 00:26:24,948 --> 00:26:29,108 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Cincinnati. Yes, yeah, I'm on tonight. It's it's 668 00:26:29,148 --> 00:26:31,508 Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable thing. That's not a joke with Pat 669 00:26:31,788 --> 00:26:34,668 Speaker 1: and Vanna, and I'm competing. And I already promised, guys. 670 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:37,228 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I did well. I'm not saying it poorly. 671 00:26:37,668 --> 00:26:39,708 Speaker 1: It will not be boring. I left here all on 672 00:26:39,868 --> 00:26:40,228 Speaker 1: the field. 673 00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:43,188 Speaker 2: What's your charity? The Angry Runs Business and Anger. 674 00:26:42,988 --> 00:26:45,308 Speaker 1: Runs foundation that we've started, which is my wallet. 675 00:26:45,708 --> 00:26:46,548 Speaker 2: Yared is all over. 676 00:26:46,868 --> 00:26:48,748 Speaker 1: No, I actually I played for Make Wish Foundation. It's 677 00:26:48,948 --> 00:26:50,828 Speaker 1: I promise you guys. It'll be entertaining as hell. We'll 678 00:26:50,868 --> 00:26:53,548 Speaker 1: debrief it tomorrow. Jarry, you should be on. Oh my, 679 00:26:53,788 --> 00:26:56,428 Speaker 1: what I would do. I would love to go on 680 00:26:56,468 --> 00:26:57,228 Speaker 1: Wheel of Fortune. 681 00:26:57,228 --> 00:26:59,108 Speaker 5: He went up against He went up against Roy Wood. 682 00:26:59,108 --> 00:27:01,908 Speaker 2: You know him for I know Roy the funniest. He's great. 683 00:27:01,948 --> 00:27:03,268 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to get him on the show. He 684 00:27:03,348 --> 00:27:05,068 Speaker 1: lives in Lower Manhattan, Dolphins. 685 00:27:05,468 --> 00:27:06,508 Speaker 6: He says he's very busy. 686 00:27:06,548 --> 00:27:06,948 Speaker 10: You know. 687 00:27:07,268 --> 00:27:08,988 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get Come in, man, I 688 00:27:09,188 --> 00:27:09,908 Speaker 1: don't have the budget. 689 00:27:09,948 --> 00:27:10,308 Speaker 10: You got me. 690 00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:11,508 Speaker 2: You gotta get a funny. 691 00:27:11,228 --> 00:27:12,028 Speaker 5: Comedian, then come on. 692 00:27:12,668 --> 00:27:14,748 Speaker 6: We have the Man's where I would right right right 693 00:27:14,908 --> 00:27:17,628 Speaker 6: right right Kyle. Wait, we can't wait to watch tonight. 694 00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:20,068 Speaker 2: I PM ayb C run Away backet