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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James

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Speaker 1: Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss nothing. Joe, Hey, before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: how was your How was your trip back?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Trip back was great man, Thank you Debo. Uh.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that was crazy was I need to

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Speaker 3: get that Global Entry because I was in the customs

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Speaker 3: line for like forty five minutes when I got back,

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Speaker 3: so I got to get the Global Entry up. That

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Speaker 3: was a rookie move on my part. But besides that

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Speaker 3: flight was good, direct straight to IAD, smooth back, good.

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Speaker 1: Bank question, no question, no question. You gotta get glow wrens.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that. You gotta give up a lot.

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Speaker 1: But it ain't like they can't see everything anyway. They

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Speaker 1: know me. It's straight through. It's like two minutes I

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Speaker 1: had I had it when I did Mexico City.

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Speaker 3: Broad I saw the Global Entry people going through and

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Speaker 3: my phone was dying, so I couldn't even download the apps.

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Speaker 1: I just I just took it. I took it. I

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Speaker 1: chalked it up for l won't happen again. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta go through a whole little process though. It ain't

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Speaker 1: just apply and that's it. They got to call you,

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Speaker 1: gotta do an interview, you gotta do all that. I

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Speaker 1: did that process to it, okay, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Giants went on head and did their thing right there,

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Speaker 1: you know, against Philly. I'm crazy, dude, I did not

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Speaker 1: see that coming. Especially you know, as soon as the

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Speaker 1: game started, like Philly, the first two players say, Kwan

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Speaker 1: go eighteen to thirteen, yes, and I'm like, okay, it's

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Speaker 1: about to be something. They get a hot field goal.

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Speaker 1: But the Giants come back and dude, on two consecutive

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Speaker 1: third downs, they get like thirty on the one third

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Speaker 1: down and then the next one, Dark scrambles for a

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Speaker 1: twenty yard touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Dude, bro Dark popped off the game like when Eagles

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Speaker 3: came down, Like you said, they stoleed out, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. So they couldn't get this, couldn't get

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Speaker 1: the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Sa Kwan only got the got the two carries popping

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Speaker 3: off looking sweet.

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Speaker 1: But when Stark got the ball and he.

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Speaker 3: Was just able to his first pass to the my

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Speaker 3: man the six four, the six to four off the

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Speaker 3: practice squad. He had nameless great faces receivers that he

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Speaker 3: was out there throwing the two. And then Eagles having

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Speaker 3: a great call on defense. They had a spy for him, Debo.

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Speaker 3: He was able to jupe the spy me froun get

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Speaker 3: the touchdown. I'm like, okay, he's looking. He did exactly

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Speaker 3: what he had to do. So game popped off super exciting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Philly came back out and they had what

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Speaker 1: it was like a negative three yard run. Then they

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Speaker 1: got sacked, so they were up out of there three

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Speaker 1: and out and come your boy darted again. Yes, dude,

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Speaker 1: like unbelievable. I think it was one for almost thirty

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Speaker 1: another one thirty five, another touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He was scrambling, bro, he was being able to use

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Speaker 3: his legs like just creating players, being just dodging, making sure,

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Speaker 3: being smooth.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: It was looking like he was he was in control

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Speaker 3: of the game. He wasn't making any bad plays. He

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Speaker 3: was doing things on time, and he just and I

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie to you. One thing I liked about

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Speaker 3: daring to lot like when I look at a quarterback too,

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Speaker 3: some quarterbacks look goofy in their equipment.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He looks sweet. My man

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Speaker 1: got the spat on, he got the vibe, share the

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Speaker 1: swag on point. His swag is on point. Like he

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Speaker 1: looks like.

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Speaker 3: I'm like this, I'm looking at I was looking like this,

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Speaker 3: young I want that quarterback to be a quarterback of

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Speaker 3: my team because he just looks cool.

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Speaker 1: He looks comfortable, he looks in the flow.

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Speaker 3: He's having fun, he's enjoying it, and he's swagging when

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Speaker 3: he was doing it. So I would just had to

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Speaker 3: but you know you had to look at this goofy.

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Speaker 3: Some dudes just look goofy in his equipment AKA Ravens

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Speaker 3: quarterback back up. He comes out there, I'm like this,

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Speaker 3: he looks a little bit nervous. Dark doesn't look nervous.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he's a control. He looks like he's chilling.

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Speaker 3: He looks he's done this before. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: But Philly popp back out there less than what four

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Speaker 1: They get a touchdown and I'm like, yo, this is

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Speaker 1: just the first quarter. We about to have one of

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Speaker 1: those games where it's back and forward, back and forth,

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Speaker 3: When he scored, he threw the deep joint the aj

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Speaker 3: brown one handed fire, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: getting them, trying to get them involved. So definitely looked

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Speaker 3: like it was gonna be good. That's it was ten

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Speaker 3: to thirteen right there when they went there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then he get back right back out there. Second

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Speaker 1: quarter they get another seven another eight minutes off the clock,

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Speaker 1: seventy five yards. Yes, yes, tables turning, you know, giants

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Speaker 1: done held up long as they could, you know, de bo.

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Speaker 1: That's when they did all them damn touch pushes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you see you went off side. Eddie jumped through

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Speaker 1: the second one. You see went off sides on the one.

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Speaker 1: They should do these tooch pushes, man, And did you

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Speaker 1: hit a referee?

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Speaker 3: Tho they said he went off side and refuge like

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Speaker 3: this in real time, you know, you probably couldn't really tell.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my good god, listen, stop it. So

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Speaker 1: we're going real time now, so we ain't calling penalties.

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Speaker 1: Y'all ain't doing the same slow mode when the defense

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Speaker 1: get a hair jump and they in the neutrals on

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Speaker 1: y'all doing the same thing. Come give me the same

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Speaker 1: Curtis they want to score points. And then Giants ended

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Speaker 1: up going right back and answered Dart and Scatterable went

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Speaker 1: on ahead and said, you know what, we're go ahead

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Speaker 1: and get this twenty seventeen a half time. Yes. Yes.

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Speaker 1: The dude, he was totaling that pill.

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Speaker 3: He was laying, he was he was coming down with

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Speaker 3: his with the crown of his helmet debo he runs

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Speaker 1: Listen, man, I don't I don't have a problem with that,

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Speaker 1: because you got to protect yourself. You got to drop

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Speaker 1: your head. He ain't going to drop his head and

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Speaker 1: do like this to get popped. He trying to get down,

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Speaker 1: like understanding that, So you know, I'm when you're coming

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Speaker 1: in to make or something. Yeah you know, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're in there because you're not even being able to wrap.

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Speaker 1: So I understand that. The halftime you got you got

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Speaker 1: say Kwan with Basically he had three carries that was

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Speaker 1: what maybe eight yards, So he ended up halftime with

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Speaker 1: eight carries fifty six yards, and then he ended the game,

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Speaker 1: dude with only four more carriages with fifty eight Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're thinking anyway, Man, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get to that. That's at the hat. Get that later.

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Speaker 1: And then the third quarter starts, Yes, yes, yes, he

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Speaker 1: go them two dudes again, the two dudes Darden Dart

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Speaker 3: They activate activate, came out that joint looking sweet. Then

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Speaker 3: they have to I think the first one, Dark threw

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Speaker 3: a great pass. They made a good play on third

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Speaker 3: and two, so knocked it down so they had to plunt.

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Speaker 3: Then this is when the Eagles get the ball in

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Speaker 3: the second half, when I'm like, all right, now, do

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Speaker 3: you all gotta stop, Let's make something happen.

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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts.

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Speaker 3: It was a blown coverage on that third and eight

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Speaker 3: with DeVonta Smith running stop free down the field.

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Speaker 1: That's a play you have to make. You have to

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Speaker 1: make that.

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Speaker 3: That's seven. That's literally, you know what I'm saying, you

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Speaker 3: could get all day. That's just a little dumping, the

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Speaker 3: dumping the bucket so.

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Speaker 1: That they missed that.

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Speaker 3: That's one play with I think that that one really

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Speaker 3: turned momentum. I think there was a lot of plays

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Speaker 3: in the game that could have changed, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The outcome one place you get to the end, the

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Speaker 1: more you know you could have it could have changed momentum,

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Speaker 3: Make But he missed that one and they had to

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Speaker 3: punt the ball mm hmm. And like you said, again,

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Speaker 3: scatter bout started giving them what they wanted, no.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, I said, it was out of control, man,

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Speaker 1: Like these these two rookies was doing their thing on

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Speaker 3: And then that's the one when they scored and they started,

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Speaker 3: like I said, the swag the over. Did you see

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Speaker 3: them dancing together having a good time, coming with the

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Speaker 1: The energy was so real, bro, So I was rocking

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Speaker 1: with just seeing them. Dudes.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, the giants look sweet, they look energetic,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Everybody's making place. So then

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Speaker 3: they that was made it twenty seven to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, he was told that well that I ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. That challenge was big because he ended up

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Speaker 1: getting sacked. You know, the Giants challenged that catch, they

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Speaker 1: reversed that catch, sacked and they had to punt the ball. Okay,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, correct, right, But like you know, the killer

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Speaker 1: and he short that ball, threw it a little behind

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Speaker 1: That really you know, it changed momentum like crazy word.

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Speaker 1: You know, you thought they might have had a chance.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we gotta go back. We gotta go back.

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Speaker 3: We gotta go back to when we when my man,

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Speaker 3: when uh, when when I thought Jackson Dark was gonna

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Speaker 3: be hurt and running out Russell came.

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Speaker 1: Been and through the ground ball and de Bo got this,

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Speaker 1: I know, the concussion that that was just you know,

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Speaker 1: that was a glitch. You know you get glitches in

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Speaker 1: the get. That was just quick little glitch. You had

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and do what to do getting there.

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Speaker 3: I have to just say how much I laughed at

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Speaker 3: how Dave Bo was spazing on the control like the

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Speaker 3: you know you had the Hey.

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Speaker 1: Everybody went into the tent. Everybody, you know, he out

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Speaker 1: here throwing this motherfuckering the dirt.

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Speaker 3: Boys thirty nine you see the threw it in the dirt.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, my bad. I just had to I just

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Speaker 3: had to play because I.

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Speaker 1: Was gonna let it slide.

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Speaker 3: No debo they had been last I'm like, I'm like

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Speaker 3: they are in dire need for that quarterback dark if

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Speaker 3: you don't get the hell out that tent.

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Speaker 1: Everybody went in the tent, Yes, everybody. Everybody had to

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Speaker 1: go in the tin. What's going on? The doctors doing?

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Speaker 1: What the hell they hold on? Man? Is he man? No,

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Speaker 1: he's I know, he's good. They was like, he's good.

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Speaker 1: Yea yeah, yeah, get him on out here. Did you

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Speaker 1: just see what we saw? Get him on out he

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Speaker 1: could be all out here, he gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, he threw that pick and then

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Speaker 1: bro get Finally, when we thought was a stop, they

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Speaker 1: get a huge Philly get a huge PI that keeps

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Speaker 3: Dealing and I'm not no, no disrespect to AJ Dillon

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Speaker 3: Coff the jone up, you know what I'm saying. Another

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Speaker 3: then scatterbrew and sing was able to.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the moralizing part of this, dude, please you

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Speaker 1: boys win six minute offense on them, yes, okay, and

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Speaker 3: Yes, moralizing, right, that's that's reminded me of that Marshawn Lynch.

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Speaker 1: And you keep hitting them in the face over over

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Speaker 3: Man, man, for sure, he lifted scatter boy, he even

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Speaker 3: went bro Scatterbuls got the fifteen y'all penalty because he

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Speaker 1: Buddy took him off his feet and.

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Speaker 3: He ran back over like yeah, it's still first down,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you gotta grow up on that. He still

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Speaker 3: When it got another first down, though, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Like that wasn't the like, Oh, no, you're gonna give

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Speaker 3: No, okay, I'll get that fifteen back. And they know

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Speaker 3: I'm toting it him. As Singletary was running that thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Philly, Philly got some They got some problems

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Speaker 1: over there, dude. The offense, they only converted one third down, dude,

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Speaker 1: bro one third down seventy five yards rushing. Dude, here's

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Speaker 1: y'all was second in rushing. Y'all, y'all did one hundred

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Speaker 1: And now as of today, you only getting ninety five

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Speaker 1: Last year you only had one hundred and eighty seven

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Speaker 1: nine passing the game. Last year you was twenty eight

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Speaker 1: this year, I mean last year was twenty nine. This

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Speaker 1: and your third down efficiency doesne drop to thirty four percent?

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Speaker 1: Like situationally, you're terrible. Five out of the last six games,

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Speaker 1: Hurts getting socked left and right. Rather he's missing receivers

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Speaker 3: There's no reason Sakuon Barkley, how you started a game

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Speaker 3: with the two carries for those exposive plays and you

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Speaker 3: don't continue to give him the ball, like if he

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Speaker 3: gets less than fifteen touches, it's a crime. You have

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Speaker 3: Saquon barkers on your team, on your squad. How you

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Speaker 3: gonna get established to run? You have to continue to

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Speaker 3: give him the ball. You gotta keep some like. There's

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Speaker 3: no flow of the game when you're not getting him

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Speaker 1: Listen, you have to give him the ball running. I

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Speaker 1: don't care about touches and all. You have to give

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Speaker 1: So for you to not consistently get him to ball

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Speaker 1: to get those opportunities don't make no sense to me

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Speaker 1: when you've already had success doing it last year. That's

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Speaker 1: what you did. Now you're gonna let all these people

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Speaker 1: He can't do that, he can't pass this, he can't

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Speaker 1: catch this. I'm not catching that. Change with made y'all successful.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I wouldn't care if I'm the

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Speaker 1: head dude, I don't give a damn what they say.

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Speaker 1: If we winning, ain't nothing about to get changed, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if we twenty eight, twenty ninth in

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Speaker 1: passing second in Russian? What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 1: They understand it, Dude. I don't get it either, Debo.

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Speaker 3: They it's something something's up because it's he's not even

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Speaker 3: in the game sometimes though, Debo. So that's what I'm asking, like,

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Speaker 3: So there has to be something where I'm like, what

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Speaker 3: like why are the coach is not having Saquan in

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Speaker 3: the game. No disrespect the AJ Dillon, but we saw

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Speaker 3: what Tae Kwong was able to do and leading that

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Speaker 3: It's not too much different than him getting less than

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Speaker 3: What There's something that I'm not saying because if you

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Speaker 1: Listen, I done paid you all that money. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: use you up. I'm not managing anything, man. We're about

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Speaker 1: repeat this thing. The Giants, they you know, they two

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Speaker 1: do and they're improving, like you know, from from one

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Speaker 1: I'm about to run the ball and you can't stop that.

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Speaker 1: We fish played great situation in football. Third down, they

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Speaker 1: That's elite that Yes, we were talking. They're not known

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Speaker 3: But one third down, those d ns, man, those like

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Speaker 3: both both all of them, Like number zero five, They

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Speaker 1: At the same time the secondary.

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Speaker 3: No miscommunications, no people just running scott free down the secondary.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm gonna say, when your

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Speaker 3: eleven for sixteen, I'm gonna say eleven for fifteen because

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Speaker 3: Russell came in there threw it in the dirt. So

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Speaker 3: my man, Jackson Dark, he wasn for fifteen for third downs.

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Speaker 1: And that was just making sure he ain't turned it over. No,

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Speaker 3: I hope somebody I didn't They didn't show the replay.

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Speaker 3: I hope somebody tipped it. But that joint hit the

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Speaker 3: They was eleven for fifteen, and I saw that that's

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Speaker 3: the most since twenty fourteen could burn eleven four eleven

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Speaker 1: They haven't done that in eleven years.

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Speaker 3: So him just going out there being able to continue,

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Speaker 3: dropping passes, not just touchballs, like no defense. A lot

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Speaker 3: of those they were saying to Dori, Jackson wasn't in

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Speaker 3: and they were just making tough catches, great passes in

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Speaker 1: Can get it and you can't. So that was Dark

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Speaker 3: But the way that he was being able to create

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Speaker 3: like thirteen rushers for fifty eight yards in a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: That's great football.

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Speaker 3: And the way that he did it, being able to

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Speaker 1: That's winning football. And he looked like a baller like that.

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Speaker 3: If Jackson Dark can just do that, eliminates it. He

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Speaker 3: didn't have no turnovers. He was sad fired two times,

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Speaker 3: run the right route the ball. I'm gonna put it there.

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Speaker 3: You just catch it, you know what I'm saying. That

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Speaker 1: It look like this is what I do. I'm normal.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be precise passing and shorter the sticks.

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Speaker 1: If you're playing cover too, there's not going to be

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: The reason I'm good with it is because like he's

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Speaker 1: It's not like we have a really good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: you get to where we're able to now make you

433
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: get into situations where you gotta put that other guy

434
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: in the box. You can't play cover too. The offensive

435
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 1: line starts blocking, well, we're able to run the ball well,

436
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 1: that will open up the deep passes that you'll be

437
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: able to get because now you'll get that single high

438
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: you got to get the other guy in the box

439
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: because now we're running the ball effectively. So I have

440
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 1: no problem with it. You know, with the comments, what's

441
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: what's your what's your thoughts on I'm the same way

442
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: that you are, Debo. You know how it is.

443
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: I play dB and the best way to keep the

444
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: d ball from you is playing too high. If you

445
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 3: play cover two, your corners, you make sure you get

446
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,479
Speaker 3: hands on one and that dude is getting the inside

447
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: release so your safety can be able to use. You

448
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 3: keep you keeping the lid on everything. So that makes

449
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 3: your corners a little more active. It keeps you lighting

450
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: the run game. But him saying all of this is

451
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 3: just football one on one and knowing the way you're

452
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: gonna do that is being able to get them positive runs.

453
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: When they're playing cover too, tote the ball the line

454
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: blocks a little more. You start getting them.

455
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: Six to toe.

456
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: That's two carries. That's the first down. They're gonna start

457
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 3: playing some more cover, some more cover one. They're gonna

458
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 3: start dropping that guy down in the box trying to

459
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 3: prevent you being able to get six yards of carry.

460
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 3: Seven yards of carry. We start toting the ball and

461
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: that's gonna start keeping that safety. They're gonna start shooting

462
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: down a little bit quicker, and that's gonna have one

463
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 3: on ones outside being able to when those safety drop

464
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: you see one dude in the middle of the field

465
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: and he's pressed on DK.

466
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: Now that's when that's an opportunity for a D ball. Now,

467
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: when you got a corner back.

468
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: Then you got two safety sitting back there, just a

469
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: babob what I'm saying, Like, no, when you get that

470
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: one on one, look like, all right, bet, now you

471
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: can safety get you can look off the safety and

472
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: now you know it's him versus him. If DKs beat him,

473
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 3: he's gonna be a touch now. And that's like, that's

474
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: the that's the looks that you want. So when you

475
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: don't have defense cover two, we're gonna keep a lid

476
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 3: on it. They're not going deep. There's defense, you can

477
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: call it. We're like, no, it's just gonna be able

478
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 3: to prevent the D passes. So he's speaking football one

479
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 3: on one.

480
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: And the way to change that is, you know, start

481
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: running the ball, start toting it, start being able to

482
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: get those runs where now they got to add another

483
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: person in the box. Yeah, definitely, Tom and shared, Uh

484
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: what separates dealing game from other NFL rookies. He said

485
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: he's older, more experienced than most rookies. I think timely,

486
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: I think timely possessing. I think timely process is timely.

487
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: I think his experience and that super and that superpower

488
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: has to be on display, and I think that was

489
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Speaker 1: one of the central reasons why the Browns went to him.

490
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: My I mean, I totally understand what he's saying here again,

491
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, you got Dylan Gabriel. He's what would he

492
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: played over sixty games started at Oregon last you know,

493
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: his last year there, he completed almost seventy three percent

494
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: of his passes bru thirty tugs only six interceptions. So yeah,

495
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: he's going to process things faster. He's going to get

496
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: in and out of his hands. He doesn't seen it.

497
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: He has a better understanding of it, you know. And

498
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: on top of that, something else. Dude, he's a dual threat.

499
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: Like he can he can take off on you. It

500
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: ain't like you sitting back there with Joe Flacco. You

501
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. For sure, Hey, he go be

502
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: in the pocket. I could go on ahead and I

503
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: can lose container and everything else. He'll catch back up

504
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: to him, you know, like you know, get around you

505
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: like what uh what do you see in uh the

506
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: enemy's quarterback? Because I see you got your You're still

507
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: as Jersey on they must be the enemy today. I

508
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: don't know.

509
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: I told you, Debo, you got I could do both.

510
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, range, Debo, I got range.

511
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: So back to Dylan Gabriel, I'm understanding of PLU completely

512
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: what coach Tomlin is saying. I think it's like like

513
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: from what I've seen with Dylan, he protects the football,

514
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: being able to he says, timely processing is his superpower.

515
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: So making quick decisions, being able to, you know what

516
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, get back once you hit that backstep, being

517
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: able to let the ball go, and being able to

518
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 3: make good decisions. He doesn't throw interceptions and if nothing's there,

519
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: he'd be able to use his legs. So I understand

520
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: what coach he is saying. He doesn't turn the ball

521
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: over and he's quick to make decisions. He played a

522
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: lot of football when he was in college too, so

523
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 3: from the first game that I saw him play, when

524
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: he did in Minnesota his first start, a lot of

525
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: the same things. Quick the process, were able to get

526
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: the ball ey his hands fast. But I just need

527
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: him to make some of those deeper throws. So not bad,

528
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: but still some of the things that coach Tomlin saying

529
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: is exactly the same things and what we saw and

530
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 3: why he's still gonna be able to beat the quarterback

531
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: and for the next like at couple of weeks.

532
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterbacks. Speaking of quarterbacks, they are actually the Browns.

533
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to say y'all or

534
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: or they when this when this is, when it's the

535
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: bow and you say the Browns, you can still say y'all, y'all, Okay,

536
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be saying no we I'm gonna say

537
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: us then, okay, okay, so y'all, y'all are actually paying

538
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks. Four of them are on the team, but

539
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: only two of them are active. One is on practice

540
00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: squad and uh, your boy Kevin Stefanski say, don't know

541
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: who the backup is? I mean, I'm doing the math

542
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: right now. The backup who Listen. I was trying not

543
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: to say. I was trying to listen. Listen, listen. I

544
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: was trying not to like give any like, oh, y'all,

545
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: trying to you know, fuck overstore all this other stuff.

546
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to like trying to keep it even.

547
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: But this right here, you're telling me your head coach

548
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: don't know who his backup is and he only got

549
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: two of them on the active roster.

550
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: Huh, this, Debo, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna

551
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: go ahead, get to it. We only all right, no bumpet,

552
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 3: it ain't no way he wanted this man on his team. Bro,

553
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: that's the most I don't know who my backup quarterback is.

554
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: You only got two of them. You just traded the

555
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: one that was supposed to be two. Three gotta be two.

556
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: I can't they plan They talking about you know what, Debo,

557
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: they're talking about Zappy. They talking about their disrespecting right

558
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: now in the level that are practice squad quarterback.

559
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you're gonna bring him up a

560
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: practice squad, make him to in front of your door.

561
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: Listen, Debo, I'm not telling you what I'm gonna do it.

562
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: This is what I'm this, this one I'm trying to

563
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: tell you right now, and this is where I'm ready

564
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: to go.

565
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Hey, listen, man, can you hear me?

566
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: Why don't y'all just trade him the Cincinnati since no, hell,

567
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: you traded you You traded Flako over there if he

568
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: was your two, and you still don't know who you too,

569
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: a hell you could. I'm trying to know this. What

570
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you you need to let me

571
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: tell you something.

572
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: This right here is straight disrespectful. Why I'm saying this

573
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: is I don't give a damn. Chador was your fifth

574
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: round pick, after you picked Dylan Gabriel. I understand all

575
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: of this. This is just your fifth front pick. Joe

576
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: Flacco starts Dylan Gabriel a second Chador's third Zapi didn't.

577
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Even make your active roster. You couldn't make your team.

578
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: So just mathematically, you don't disrespect your fifth round pick

579
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: like this. Joe Flack gets his opportunity, the second round pick,

580
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: this third round pick, Dylan Now he gets the opportunity.

581
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: He's the starter. Now you got rid of Flack up Boom.

582
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: The door is number two. If you don't make your

583
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: door your number two. Now you're being very disrespectful. I

584
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: have to ask you, why is he not your number two?

585
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: Yes, because now you're trying to throw in Zappy. He

586
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: couldn't even make your active roster. You had three quarterbacks

587
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: to start the season. Just the way it goes, one

588
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: is gone, then the other one comes up, then he gone.

589
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: And now and now and now he moves up.

590
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, listen, hold on, hold on, hold up. What

591
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: is this going to do to the locker room for

592
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: guys who are in support of door, for anybody that

593
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: you put it out there and you say you don't

594
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: know who your backup number two quarterback is Nobody. I'm

595
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: looking at you as a head coach is like, this

596
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: is the dumbest motherfucker in the world. It's the most

597
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: disrespectful motherfucker and the world. How do you do this?

598
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Like end of the day.

599
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: I understand if you don't like Shador, if you do

600
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: like him, if you don't like him as a football

601
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: he don't like him for sure, No, for sure, he

602
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: definitely don He definitely don't like him. He definitely don't

603
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 3: like him. He definitely don't like him.

604
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: And I don't even like to get like this because

605
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: it's really supposed to be you are. Football is the

606
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: only sport where you if you're gonna get your opportunity

607
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: because it's how.

608
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: Good you are and when you play, and then like

609
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter about nothing, don't matter about your color,

610
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: don't matter about nothing.

611
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: It's if you can perform, you can play, So right

612
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: now with Dylan is on.

613
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: You drafted this man, you had petty whatever, like he

614
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: should be back up to get his opportunity.

615
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: You creating more drama. You got two quarterbacks on your team.

616
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: All you had to do was say, yes, Sor is

617
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: the backup. Why would out of your way to say

618
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: you don't know, yes, You're going out of your way. DEEPO,

619
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: he's going out of his way to create something. And

620
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: then at the same time, like there when we're protect

621
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: him when he was the third string quarterback, don't keep him,

622
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: don't have him available to speak to the media.

623
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to talk to the media. He has

624
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: nothing to say to the media because he knows that

625
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: he's not going to play. So he's gonna chill and

626
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: do what you gotta do. Y'all keep making him available,

627
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: letting him be available. Is y'all handled it wrong? Y'all

628
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: don't want.

629
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Your door to be there. So let him go zero,

630
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: let him go, let him go. I'm good. I'm good.

631
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm good on that, because yeah, they just they doing

632
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: my dog. They're doing there.

633
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: They're doing him wrong as a football player, as a

634
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: draft pick for the Browns, I would feel disrespected.

635
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, for sure. For sure, like and as the

636
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: locker room I'm like, yo, I was trying to be

637
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: even killed with her, but yo, they really do not

638
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: like this cat man like him, and they just got

639
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: rid of my good man Greg knew him too. It

640
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: makes ball in this year.

641
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: Having a great year, great one of the best locker

642
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: room dudes ever, and just got rid of him.

643
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. Hey, Bruce Bruce,

644
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, you know BA Bruce arians coordinating for US

645
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: head coach in Arizona. He said, I don't know how

646
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Speaker 1: how you keeping this job this long? Like how do

647
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: you after that? How? I don't you're the owner or

648
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: that's that ship you was talking about in Cleveland. How

649
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: they don't know what the hell they're doing period? Is

650
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: that what you was talking about?

651
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: I mean right now with this then the way of

652
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: just looking is I don't know what to say, like

653
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: they don't they obviously don't know what they're doing.

654
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Like from this, it's just it's just.

655
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: All bad moves. It's bad business. It's the way you

656
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: treat people. I mean, at the end of the day too,

657
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: you've you are you the Stellers they.

658
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: Do a better job like Kenny Pickett, they picked the

659
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: first round draft pick.

660
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: They knew they messed up. They were able to move on.

661
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: They're grown, they can make decisions and move on. To

662
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: be able to take accountability, you gotta be able to

663
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: take accountability when you make a bad move and move

664
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: on and grow up and then make better moves moving forward,

665
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: like move like a business.

666
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Don't do that like this is just crazy. Well, hey, listen,

667
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: at least the Bengals think that, you know, they gotta

668
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: they got a better chance that you know, we hope

669
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: this season when they when they got Flacco. You know,

670
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: do you think what do you think that you think

671
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: they got a better chance with with Flaco in there?

672
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean they don't.

673
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he gonna throw the ball, he go, jamar

674
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: Cha is gonna have some numbers. See Higgins gonna have

675
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: his opportunities. Flaco's a vet. I mean, he's gonna have

676
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: those receivers. That's I mean, he gonna give him a

677
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: chance that he's gonna throw it up. So I mean,

678
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't believe in the Bengals.

679
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: I don't think the Bengals is going to be doing

680
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: too much better. I think Flacco is gonna make them serviceable,

681
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: but I don't see them winning too many more games

682
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: than they would have with Browner.

683
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Well, it says gives the team hope, hope for this season,

684
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: more hope. What's more hope than they had with the

685
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: other cat I think, you know, they're definitely going to

686
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: have a better chance, you know, with with Joe get

687
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: the defense is able to play as well as they

688
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: did against the Lions, but again they're still what a

689
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: thirtieth ranked defense right now. They're they're giving up a lot.

690
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: They actually had some you know, they had some good stuff,

691
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: but at the same time they're they're getting they're giving

692
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: up sacks too. The offense is dead last. Flacco is

693
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: not going to help you with anything on the rush,

694
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be sitting right there in the pocket.

695
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: You know, just you know, they do more than like

696
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy yards game, but who knows he's

697
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna get more sacks, that's no question, because he

698
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: will be sitting right there in the pocket. You ain't

699
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: got to worry about him running nowhere. You're gonna know

700
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: where he at. But if he you know, if he

701
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: gets on time, he gets his timing good and everything is, Yeah,

702
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna look different. It gotta look better than what

703
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: they had. It gotta look better than that unless he

704
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: go and do what he did with Cleveland with all

705
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: them picks. I don't know, something like to say.

706
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. I'm not knocking Flac.

707
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: I love George Joe Flack is a good man, but

708
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: it's talking we're talking about it's a performance based sport

709
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: and it's the NFL.

710
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: It's the best of the best. Like they cant. You're

711
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: getting play to play a game.

712
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day and that one

713
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: while I'm on the side, I understand why you're going

714
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: to be able to get greater accordingly, you know what

715
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the iron Scott, don't lie if you're doing

716
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: If you're just throwing picks up in the air and

717
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: miscommunications over there, you haven't been in that situation. So

718
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: I hopefully you can learn the offense a little faster

719
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: becuse you've been in the league.

720
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Speaker 2: For a while.

721
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 3: But I remember when you were in Cleveland and when

722
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: we got you up out of there, and I was

723
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: asking for them to get you up out of there.

724
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I know it could be a change of scenery, but

725
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: you're going in year nineteen and you're eighteen.

726
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't know. I just don't think

727
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: it could be too much of a like junt of energy.

728
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that your faes going through

729
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: to the Bengals to make them do too much better.

730
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Hope understandably, hope all got hope. We all got hope, Hope,

731
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: faith and charity. Hope. Man Michael Everin went off on

732
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: a podcast for them, saying that Deon Sanders couldn't cover

733
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the current NFL receivers. Man, listen to this. The receivers

734
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: from back then. Might these guys that he played against

735
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: want their fanst bro They were stronger, but they want

736
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: their fast these guys now, I'd love to see him.

737
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: I would have loved to see him play against Chad

738
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: and his Prime. I would have loved to see him

739
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: play against Justin Jefferson right now in today, you know

740
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: all these different guys. I would love to see him

741
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: cover Tyree. If Prime is who we think he is,

742
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: are you shit k me?

743
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history

744
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: of this game. When you're talking about the most important things,

745
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: championships and your stupid ass talking about running fast like

746
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: people weren't running fast back then?

747
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Are you ship team? Mean? What the hell are you

748
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about? I don't even know your name. Dude, Hey man,

749
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: lest you what you think? I am right there with him.

750
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: It is more players back then that could play now

751
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: and have greater success than it is players right now

752
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: that could play back then because you had to worry

753
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: about getting your head took off. You could bang a

754
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: receiver every play. It wasn't about oh he's not by

755
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: the ball all that. You run your route and the

756
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: player is about to be dead. No, don't be surprised

757
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: that safety come down and just block you anyway. They

758
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: give you to what are you talking about? They give

759
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: you two more steps, dude, Yes, it was a whole

760
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: two steps. We only had one. The receivers would not

761
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: last back then, like you the receivers back then coming

762
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: to now. Man, you can't touch him, you can't do

763
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: none of that. And you got guys back then who

764
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: are getting beat up all the way up the field,

765
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: still breaking loose and getting catches. Now you touch a

766
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: dude after five yards and dig go it first down?

767
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: What are you talking about don't nobody even know who

768
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: this goofball is anyway, like anybody can say anything that

769
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: they want to. Dude is out of his rabbit ass

770
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: mind just running his mouth for clout and bullshit. Dude,

771
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: I don't even that is crazy for that to even

772
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: be said, Like the game is way too physical back then,

773
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: probably for half of these receivers now to even play then.

774
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm so, I'm that what one thousand percent.

775
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders would do whatever he wants to do. His speed,

776
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: his knowing what the all, knowing the game, his ball skills.

777
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders, in my opinion, was the best cornerback player

778
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life. And that is just

779
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: off the strength of just the swag, the way he

780
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: was able to play the ball and picks.

781
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Like would be so disrespectful to the greatest to ever

782
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: play the position. Prime couldn't play into no podcast for that,

783
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: bro Prime Time Deon Sanders. And that's when they was

784
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: literally like he was being able to put hands in

785
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: like they were playing real ball.

786
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: That's why I respect them ogs too, because you can

787
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: put your hands on the receivers and the receivers too.

788
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: I respect them even more because you was getting beat

789
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: up for real, So like you being able to get

790
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: through this, being able to know I'm running this slant.

791
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I got him grabbing on my arm.

792
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: I'm about to get thumbed upside my head catching it

793
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 3: and still coming through there and lasting No, no alligated arms,

794
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: no nothing.

795
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: It was a guard. It was it was just gangsters

796
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: out there playing.

797
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: And I think with Deon's speed, the way that you

798
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: can't watch the tape and know Deon Dion's running four

799
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: to two, Deon's catching these picks.

800
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: He's on about what did you know how fast he was? Like,

801
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: you didn't have no clue about what you're talking about.

802
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: You have no idea, like you need. If you got

803
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: anybody that's following you right now watching your show, they

804
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: need to unsubscribe because if I see they following you,

805
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to consider them just as stupid as you,

806
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: if not more.

807
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Saying that Dion couldn't He said that Dion wouldn't be

808
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: able to cover these NFL receivers. That is ridiculous. De

809
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: Bo Dion Sanders that played professional baseball that ran around

810
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: two way, ran around through the state like at the combine,

811
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: ran through the joint and left. Knew he was getting drafted,

812
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: like well, all the chains for the joint. Everybody trying

813
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: to play Deon already knew what time it was. He

814
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: had swag before swag and then went and got picks

815
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: and won Super Bowls, change franchises, will go this is

816
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: my house in Atlanta, go back there and run pick

817
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: six back and talk to people crazy like Jerry Rice,

818
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: talk to him crazy, Michael Erwin talking to him crazy

819
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: like real Hall of Famous, real goat jacket.

820
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Guys.

821
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I understand Jamar Chase definitely,

822
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 3: But at the same he would have to deal with Prime.

823
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like wrong, Like everybody would

824
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: have to deal with Prime the same way.

825
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: You need the safeties back. Then stop playing, man, it

826
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: ain't no oh. If I don't catch the ball, they can't. No,

827
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: you go get hit the ballarless three yards you get

828
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Molly Watt regardless. See if you come back out for

829
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: the next play, that's crazy. You gonna be running across

830
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: that middle, like you said, with them alligator arms, not

831
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: reaching for nothing. All of that. That's not That's one

832
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: thing I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever do is

833
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: disrespect the Ogs. You can't. You can't. That's my big thing, dude,

834
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: Like you can't do the biggest Uh, I ain't gonna

835
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: say honor. It was an honor like like the biggest

836
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: thing that I ever got told to me was by

837
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: the old school players like uh, Joe Green, you know

838
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Me and Joe Lambert like guys like

839
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: that that were like, yo, you could have played with

840
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: us back then, like as a linebacker. That was them

841
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: say that to you, Like I'm like, oh yeah, for sure.

842
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: The best thing you could ask for is just the

843
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: recognition of the og the people that came before you

844
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: that you wanted to just show them that you're trying

845
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: to hold it down, do it the right way, you

846
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: know what I'm.

847
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Saying, and like rec like approval, like yes, man, I'm

848
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: out here working try and get it.

849
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: That's why I love OG's to always come back and

850
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: look out and you're always gonna respect the Ogs.

851
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: Always, dude, no question, dude, it was I had something

852
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: de bo I wanted to ask you to man. I

853
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you.

854
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: Actually, I seen his best four linebacker joint from my man.

855
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: He posted them all time and they had ray Lewis,

856
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: Brian Urlacker, you, and one other dude.

857
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: It was four of them, bro, how they ain't got

858
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor on it. It was L T, LT, LT

859
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: obviously my bad, my bad, My bad, my bad, and LT.

860
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: It was four. It was LT.

861
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacker and you. That was the joint

862
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: that my man posted from DC. I got it and

863
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: it was I was like, this, that's.

864
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Real love right there, Oh, no question, real love. I

865
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: had to let you know that.

866
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: D Bos saw it yesterday and I was like, I'm

867
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: a screenshot. I'm gonna send it to you, but everybody

868
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: crazy love Lt.

869
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis. But when they put my good Man, my

870
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: co I'm his co host, My good Man debo, I

871
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: just won't let you know. I appreciate you. See you debo,

872
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: We see you. Og whoever put that up, We're gonna

873
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: go ahead and I'm gonna get on the screen. We

874
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and get you some more. Whatever it is.

875
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: We love that. That's a good dude. Speaking of recognition,

876
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I guess this is not the kind of recognition you

877
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: won't Chris Jones, he uh, he admitted this mistake. I

878
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: guess letting up on the touchdown. You ever been in

879
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: a situation like that where you was like, yo, I stopped,

880
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: but I then I restarted, But you you ever, I

881
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: know I've done it. I've done it once, and from

882
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that point forward, I'm like, yo, if I feel like

883
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: I have any chance of getting there, like I gotta

884
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: keep running because you play it back in your head

885
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, dang if I did that, especially when

886
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: you lose, like it could have won us the game.

887
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: Everybody has a situation like that, but I don't. I've

888
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: never had a situation like to that extreme where I stop,

889
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I may like give a little less effort. One time

890
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: that I did, like it was like, yeah, I gave

891
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: the jaw and if I hadn't, I know for sure

892
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: I could have got there. What ah, what's your what's

893
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: your h what's your take on guys that do this

894
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: and consistently do it like like multiple plays?

895
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: I mean, the first thing we learned Debo was to

896
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: get to the ball, you know what I'm saying. And

897
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: then the difference was in the NFL was that everybody

898
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: has to be touched down. Everybody has to be touched down.

899
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: So as a cornerback, they always made sure that they

900
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: taught us. You know what I'm saying. If the receiver

901
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: catches it goes down, make sure you make sure you

902
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: down and make sure you touch them down. So my

903
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: biggest thing is always trying to just finish the play.

904
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: You never's gonna happen. As a dB I'm trying to

905
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: cover when the quarterback falls down.

906
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I know.

907
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: It was funny because the defensive alignment, you're trying to

908
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: just go touch the quarterback because you can get.

909
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: They run it too, that quarterback so fast. That's me,

910
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: that's me. That's a sack you touch. That's the easiest

911
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: sack in the world.

912
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: So like I'm like when that went them boys was

913
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: trying to steal that. I would never be able to

914
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: touch somebody on the ground before they would touch him.

915
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: So my old thing was I would know, like get

916
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: him down.

917
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: My defensive linemen were always thirsty for those extra those

918
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: extra sacks.

919
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't I don't mean want to

920
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: fall to him in that.

921
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like you would

922
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: d lineman a blow play into the whistle, it's the

923
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Hopefully if he is down, you could like

924
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: like steal the sack, make sure, like make sure the

925
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: referees blow the whistle. If you didn't hear nothing like,

926
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: keep keep going. I don't know if you heard the

927
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: whistle or something. But like he was, he stood up

928
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: to it. It's a it's a mistake. I know he

929
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: didn't mean any harm by and it hurts more when

930
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: you lose the game. You could really just win in there,

931
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 3: probably tap him down, you know what I'm saying.

932
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: But when even in the process of him getting back up,

933
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: it would stop start stop, start, stop start.

934
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: But he was just looking like like he was glittering,

935
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: like is this play really happening or is it blown down?

936
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: Did he really get up? Fall down? Get up? Fall down?

937
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I think he knew it was a mistake.

938
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: Get to the if you don't. If you see if

939
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: you see him running hit him, it's still live action.

940
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: We're still in the.

941
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: Game, you know what I'm saying, Like, refere's gonna let

942
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: you know when it plays over.

943
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no question about that. Yeah, I think that's ah,

944
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: you know, And I think you're adding to it the

945
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: fact that he might have been tired too, you know

946
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, fatigue and make coward out

947
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: all of us on the ball on the ball, on

948
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah yeah, So I mean it's you know,

949
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: it's hit and miss. But I respect the fact that

950
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: he owned up to it and you know it's like, yeah,

951
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: that's definitely something that shouldn't happen. And as as a captain,

952
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: as a leader, you know, got don live the tape.

953
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: You're looking at it like this, what do you You

954
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: got a person just standing on the tape Like that's

955
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 3: not a good look.

956
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: You post. The game's going on, sir. Run you know

957
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you if you need one, we'll

958
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: get you one in there. I know there's plenty a

959
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: little the backup ready to get in the game, thirsty

960
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: for thirsty for action. Like if you can't run, get out,

961
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: but you don't want to harm your team. Yeah yeah,

962
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Like if my, you know, if my it's my fifty percent,

963
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: it's still better than the dude behind me fresh hundred percent.

964
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Like why do we even have him on the team,

965
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: Like we got to get out of here. We gotta

966
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: gotta get out. Val you wait and be able to

967
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: be like yo, let me get out of here, get

968
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: some breath. That that's the test, and then pop back

969
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: in and you know, two three plays or whatever. But

970
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: when it's in that situation, you're that close, you know,

971
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, man, I gotta stand here, I gotta

972
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: I gotta do what I can. But when it turns

973
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: out looking like that, and you could have had a

974
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: fresh body in there that was going one hundred miles

975
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: an hour, you know, it makes you It makes you

976
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: rethink the situation. So thou one hundred percent, you know, agree,

977
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: understand all that. But at least he took ownership for it.

978
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Man.

979
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's the biggest part, Like just not trying

980
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: to make excuses for it, like Chris Jones a grown.

981
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: Ass man and be like saying, I don't know who

982
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: my my backup quarterback is, you know, like and you

983
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: only got two of them on the damn team. I

984
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: don't know y'all Over there, y'all, y'all messed up over

985
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: there man. Speaking it out, the Rams line back Jared

986
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Verse stated that he'd be fucking furious if Lamar Jackson

987
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: isn't playing on Sunday. He said that Lamar was on

988
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: his sack list with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. You know,

989
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I think, what do you think when when when guys,

990
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: you are a linebacker, so you sacking the quarterback. What

991
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: do you think about this?

992
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: Me?

993
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Yes, now, so here here again, I don't want to

994
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: give bulletin board material. Okay, okay. The reason I like

995
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: it and dislike it I dislike it because you just

996
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: gave bulletin board material of personally getting a sack on

997
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Now what you

998
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: also did is said, I'm gonna whoop the lines of

999
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs. So now you

1000
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: just told all three of these people that, yo, I'm

1001
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: putting these on my sack list, so I got to

1002
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: play them. It don't matter who the hell is in

1003
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: front of me, and to hell with all that. So

1004
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: you just gave bulletin war material. Now in the fact

1005
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: that if you put it like this, I had actually

1006
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: I did an interview. I don't know if we could play,

1007
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: but I did an interview with Bill Kawer, and they

1008
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: were asking a question like, if you saw I believe

1009
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: it was Terrell Suggs broke down on the side of

1010
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: the road coming into the game on Sunday, would you

1011
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: pick him up? And I said yes, I would pick

1012
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: him up. The reason I would pick him up is

1013
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: because I want their team at full strength, so there's

1014
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: no excuses why you lost this game. You weren't missing anybody,

1015
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: nobody was hurt, and everybody was there, healthy, on time, prepared.

1016
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: Now that is an answer that I would love to

1017
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: hear and go for, of course, because I gave it,

1018
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: you know. But the reasoning it's because I want you

1019
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: at full strength, so there's no excuse on why you

1020
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: lost this game. You weren't missing anyone. The I'm going

1021
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: to get a sack on these three guys means I'm

1022
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: going to get a sack on these three guys, and

1023
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm whoever the hell is in front of me. No

1024
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: matter what they do it, I ain't gonna be able

1025
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: to stop me. That's why I like it and don't

1026
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: like it. What about you? So I'm more.

1027
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: I don't like offensive player defensive players. You're gonna have

1028
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: to go deal with them.

1029
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: So I like that he's saying it because he's gonna

1030
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: have he has a job to do.

1031
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna be able to He's have to go against

1032
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: these tackles and get the job done. Bulletin boar material

1033
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: is not something that I like for anybody to do.

1034
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, There's no kind of no

1035
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: reason for it. I don't think you know what I'm saying.

1036
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it, because end of the day,

1037
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to go out there, you're gonna have

1038
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: to perform, and you're gonna have.

1039
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: To stand on what you did.

1040
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: And that's you saying that is gonna make my job

1041
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: any more difficult. I'm gonna have to go out here

1042
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: and cover these people and do my do my job.

1043
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 3: So I just want them to if you do talk,

1044
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: I just want you to perform. So at the end

1045
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: of the game, when we watching the tape, what you're

1046
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: talking about, don't be getting thrown all out the club.

1047
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: Let me see you going to work. You know what

1048
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, be going to work and be on

1049
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: your shit. So then at the end and then then

1050
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: I'll we good you went and got you one because

1051
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: being able to go, you're you want to. We're going

1052
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: against the best anyway. So saying like bucket list stuff,

1053
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: he's not knocking them. He's saying basically he's giving them love.

1054
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's goat Patrick mahomes fire, Josh Allen amazing. If

1055
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 3: once I do that, that's bucket list Like I'm going that.

1056
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: Those dudes are the best of the best, and when

1057
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: I get them, I'm geeked about it. So it's in

1058
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: a respectful way, but it's in the same way, like

1059
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: you gotta go do it. So I'm not against it,

1060
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: but go ball out and just don't be out there

1061
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: looking crazy because then when you get to looking crazy,

1062
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: you you're gonna get a couple of shots to go.

1063
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: Like talking shit. You can you can go talk how

1064
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna back it up. I mean, if you backing

1065
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: it up, I'm not mad at you, because I'm not

1066
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: the one that's gonna be out there talking.

1067
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in there give no bulletin boar material.

1068
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: I know what's the job it's gonna be done.

1069
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: These dude's gonna be trying to whoop my tail regardless,

1070
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna get in no reason to go

1071
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: in the extra. I'm just gonna go out there, handle

1072
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: my business, step off, be gheeked, and other.

1073
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Dudes go about it they way. You know what I'm saying.

1074
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 3: It's cool, but don't be out here talking and putting

1075
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: me in a position to be having to do handle

1076
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: your business. And then you out here looking crazy if

1077
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: you handling business and you talking, talking shit and laying names.

1078
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: Let's go on one right behind you, let's rock out.

1079
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: You know what, any did you have any team or

1080
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: or players opponents that you look forward to, you know,

1081
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: during your career, So honestly, it was in a bad

1082
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: I look forward to playing Antonio Brown, look forward to playing.

1083
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: You got with us when I was with when I

1084
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: was with you guys, when I was with the Browns.

1085
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: When I was with the Browns, I look forward to

1086
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: playing against the Steelers because Antonio Brown and Big Ben

1087
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: and Mike t that was unbelievable, the connection because we

1088
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: came in together.

1089
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Me and AB came in twenty ten.

1090
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: I was first, and then he got he was like

1091
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: fifth round, went to went to the Steelers. Him with

1092
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: Emanuel Sanders came in that joint. And y'all have Mike

1093
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: Wallace too. So I look forward to playing a B

1094
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: because I knew the Browns they were putting me out

1095
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: to drive Joe be you the first round you get

1096
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: paid the big bucks.

1097
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: You got a B.

1098
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that's your job, that's your thing.

1099
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: So then it was a B I look forward to

1100
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: playing him because I knew he was gonna come with

1101
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: the work, and I knew I was gonna get put

1102
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: on Sports Center, or if I made the play, I

1103
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: was gonna be on Sports Center.

1104
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: And then it was Aj Green. I was always looking

1105
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: forward to playing.

1106
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: Him too, because sometimes Andy had throw me one, but

1107
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: AJ would sometimes get me the work. But I knew,

1108
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: like these dudes are capable of if I come out

1109
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: here tripping, I can get embarrassed, you know what I'm saying,

1110
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: Like they got me man to man versus these dudes

1111
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 3: out on the island. My mom and kids and family

1112
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: are watching. There's nothing funny, propahit everybody here, my papa here,

1113
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: my granny, everybody watching. So I just know I'm in

1114
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: this game. We're playing man the man. We're single high,

1115
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: so it can be vertical ballstone Son.

1116
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: In the box and worry about that run back then,

1117
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: but come on, man, I was yeah. They was just yeah,

1118
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: you go over there.

1119
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: So it was really Antonio Brown and Ben mainly, and

1120
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: then AJ Green. How about you, you look forward to

1121
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: play any quarterbacks or like one of the.

1122
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Adults like knew any lines was weak. Bro, I look,

1123
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: I look forward to playing everybody. I played mind games

1124
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: with myself, Dude. The fact that a team showed up

1125
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: and they didn't forfeit. I ain't lying though I took it.

1126
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: You came here because you thought you had an opportunity

1127
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: to win, to whoop my ass, to beat us, to

1128
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: dominate whatever that process is that you need to come

1129
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: away with that w I don't. So I'm mind gaming

1130
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: myself from from the beginning that you even showed up.

1131
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 1: You know that that gotta be disrespectful to me for sure.

1132
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: Just went on here your head coach. It have been like, yo,

1133
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: we sing what we say. We don't even want to

1134
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: step out there. Let's forfeit this ship.

1135
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1136
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We don't won't get nobody hurt.

1137
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: We don't want to get quarterback put to sleep, running

1138
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: back and receive it. Whatever it was like. So that

1139
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: was the mind game I played with myself. I mean

1140
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: even as you know, I started, you know, in my career,

1141
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: and you know I was all pro and all that.

1142
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: Each year I came in and I'm like, I'm hoping

1143
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: and praying that they draft a linebacker outside linebacker, because

1144
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: now I'm already in my head, are you drafting his

1145
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: dude to replace me? Huh okay, I got something for you.

1146
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Like each year I came in, bro, I'm fighting to

1147
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: make this team. Yeah, I gotta contract this guaranteed. I'm

1148
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: not even thinking about that. I gotta make your team.

1149
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: When you're trying to be that, and that's the mindset too,

1150
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: d But when you're a dog and you really trying

1151
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: to be the best of the best and the best

1152
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: you can possibly be of anything, nothing else that nobody

1153
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: else really got going on matters and you kind of

1154
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: in a competition with yourself like like I'm gonna be

1155
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: the best because I'm gonna work harder than everybody. I'm

1156
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: going to show you and I'm going to dominate, like

1157
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: and there's nothing nobody can really tell you. So when

1158
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: you discipline, you're gonna be a place on time, You're

1159
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: going to eat certain things, You're going to act a

1160
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: certain way because you know you got a goal. You

1161
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So that whole mental state, I

1162
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: feel like that I know what that you're on. And

1163
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: when certain football when players get into that zone and

1164
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: like like You know greatness when you see it, because

1165
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 3: you know people are trying to really strive to something,

1166
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: like they're working on something. They're disciplined, they comeing in

1167
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 3: this joint, they're dedicated their focus.

1168
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like each year I

1169
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: would come in and you know, I'm re relearning the

1170
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: defense and I'll do my flash cards and all that,

1171
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: and through that process, you know, everybody like, yo, bru,

1172
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: you've been here for like six years. What you're doing, bro,

1173
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm learning the defense, dude. I need to

1174
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: know what I need to do. So once I got

1175
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: down what it was that I knew I had to

1176
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: do to where I could look at the hear the

1177
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: call and be like, Okay, I got to do this,

1178
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: that and the third and if something happens, it's a

1179
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: nuance of it of this. Now I need to know

1180
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: what my end is doing, and then I need to

1181
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: know what my corner is doing. Then I need to

1182
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: know what my safe is doing. I need to know

1183
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: what my inside linebacker is doing. So now I know

1184
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: what this whole half of the line over here is doing.

1185
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Why Because if I know what everybody over here is doing,

1186
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: and I have nothing in my area. I know what

1187
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: I can do to better help my teammate, which helps us,

1188
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: which helps the whole team, and same thing. Now from there,

1189
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I want to know what's happening

1190
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: on the other side, that what that corner is doing

1191
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: with that safety is doing, you know what I'm saying,

1192
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: so that I again, if nothing's here, I can better

1193
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: help them help myself. Same thing, all right, I know

1194
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: my corner he gonna be sitting here, squatting right here,

1195
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: so I could go on ahead, and when I see

1196
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: that little and that he gonna do, I don't even

1197
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: got to bite on it because I know my corner

1198
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna be sitting there. I could go ahead, get back

1199
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: because I know they're about trying to throw the seven

1200
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: of fifty yards behind me, you know what I'm saying

1201
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, for me, it was it

1202
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: was a mind game that I was I was able

1203
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: to play with myself like all the way until the

1204
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: end of my career.

1205
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: Bro.

1206
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it, bro. And then I

1207
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: bet when you when you get into it like that too,

1208
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: when you start learning your position and not only just

1209
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: your stuff, you start learning everybody else's you start meeting

1210
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: when your linebacker knows his job and your job and

1211
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: everybody else is that communication is like so effortless.

1212
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: Y'all looking at something and see it without seeing like

1213
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: like this, y'all know it's about to happen.

1214
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: All right, bet he go here, I'm gonna go here.

1215
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Like it's just that soft communication. So like it's just

1216
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: it just starts the same thing, dude, Like when you blitzing,

1217
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: you know you faking the blitz. If I'm sitting up

1218
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: here at right, somebody has to be they come down.

1219
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I need my safety back here to play with me.

1220
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Like he's rolling down to that curl flat now when

1221
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: he see the two, he like, oh yeah, it's about

1222
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: to be a real blittering. Now we drop out of there. Yes,

1223
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: now we're sitting there and you know I'm sitting out

1224
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: here on the two and I'm supposed to be blitting,

1225
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: but the damn safety done came and sat right behind

1226
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: me because he don't want to play on the Listen, dude,

1227
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: if I'm in here and you come sit behind me,

1228
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: he know I'm coming. Don't get me up behind me

1229
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: for nothing. Get on the string with me, man, and

1230
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: then come down when you see me take off because

1231
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: you're giving him the opportunity to read the mail before

1232
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: we even delivered it. Dude, Like they're like, yo, yeah,

1233
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: we got it on tracking GPS right here. Yeah it's coming.

1234
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: They three blocks down, Like you're not helping the situation.

1235
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: And that's something else. Like you got younger guys. That's

1236
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: why when you get older guys groups like we had,

1237
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, from like twenty seven to twelve six five whatever,

1238
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: it is like you got a group of dudes that's

1239
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: been with each other for a while, so they know

1240
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: and understand every concept of this defense and what needs

1241
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: to be done to make the defense better, to make

1242
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: each player better. If you go out there and you know,

1243
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing my job well, but my corner is doing

1244
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: his job even better and my d line is doing it,

1245
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: it's going to make me look as if I am

1246
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: doing far better than what I may actually be doing,

1247
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: which will help you get some money on the line.

1248
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: If you're a person that's there and your D line

1249
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: is rushing the passer like crazy and he has to

1250
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: throw that rock and you a dB, he gotta get

1251
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: rid of it. Now you're getting more pigs because he's slinging,

1252
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: he duck and he gunning and.

1253
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: Ducking like easy. Word, You're not out there cover for

1254
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: six seconds right now?

1255
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: If I got if, I got you know my my

1256
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: dB easy, I got you out there, and y'all covering

1257
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: like like you know flies on ship. I get more

1258
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: time to get to the quarterback saying we'll all work together. Yeah,

1259
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: so listen before we get out of here, we gotta

1260
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us. Yeo and Joe okay again,

1261
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: make sure you guys like and subscribe. But we're going

1262
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: to be back here on Monday, and somebody is playing

1263
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: on Sunday. We playing against y'all. Bump ass. So you Joe,

1264
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: huhmul Why you make like you can't hear every time

1265
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I ask you this? Huh huh. I told you what

1266
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm rooting for a good game. I hope

1267
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel goes out there. I want to see what

1268
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Man, Let's see. Let's want to see

1269
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: what he or you want him to do a certain thing.

1270
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I want Aaron Rodgers to do.

1271
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I want, what I want

1272
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: the defense. I can tell you what I want the

1273
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: offense to do. I want him to come out there,

1274
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: run the ball down Cleveland's motherfucking throat and Aaron Rodgers

1275
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: passed for another three hundred Come away from that game

1276
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: with six hundred yards defense, go out there, get ten sacks,

1277
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: three picks, two touchdowns, and they don't get nothing but

1278
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: three yards. That's what I want. What you want, Joe,

1279
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want that. I want.

1280
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: I want it to be probably let's say two. I

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Speaker 3: want two great defensive games. You know, offense both played.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying pretty well, you know, and

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Speaker 3: you know both teams lead the stadium.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Feeling like, feeling good and feeling like they moved. They're

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Speaker 3: moving in the positive direction. That's what I want.

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Speaker 1: I know he ain't talking to me. Who the hell

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Speaker 1: is he talking to? He's feeding some I mean think

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to eat that ship? Hey man, man, what's up?

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Speaker 1: I just told you I felt look it past the

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Speaker 1: time man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey listen man, y'all come

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Speaker 1: back here Monday. Okay, Joe, go be here. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what Joe wearing on Monday, because I promise you if

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Speaker 1: you come in from Cleveland gear and by the grace

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Speaker 1: of God, some way, they don'et prayed hard enough to

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Speaker 1: get through to the Lord, and they don't give him

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Speaker 1: a w You come in here laughing and gloating and smiling,

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Speaker 1: have some Cleveland stuff on. I'm a snack.

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Speaker 3: I'm come hey man, listen, y'all come live man, catch

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Speaker 3: me at Debo. Man, make sure y'all like subscribe, catch

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Speaker 3: us on Monday so you can see. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, how Debo feels after the game. I know

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Speaker 3: how I'm gonna feel. You know what I'm saying. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna feel like either I'm gonna feel like

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Speaker 3: my two teams play and I'm gonna know if one

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Speaker 3: is going to if it's going really really good or

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Speaker 3: really really bad.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to know. Listen, man, y'all come

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Speaker 1: back here Monday for the Stiller W and we out