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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario, this guest man. He has been one

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Speaker 1: of the most requested people to come on my show.

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Speaker 1: And I get it. I get it. He is a

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Speaker 1: brilliant actor. He is a total badass of a human

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Speaker 1: and he came bearing cocktails and yes they were delicious.

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Speaker 1: Eric Winter stars in the ABC hit series The Rookie,

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Speaker 1: playing the fan favorite role of Sergeant Tim Bradford. Now

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Speaker 1: The Rookie is one of ABC's top scripted dramas and

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Speaker 1: one of Hulu's most watch shows with over five hundred

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Speaker 1: million hour streams since twenty eighteen. And this is all

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Speaker 1: for good reason. The storylines, the characters, his characters, solo, burn,

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Speaker 1: relationship with Lucy, and so many more things make it

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Speaker 1: the perfect binge worthy show. And before we dive into

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Speaker 1: get Eric to say something that he has never said before.

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Speaker 1: Eric Winter, how are you, my man?

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Speaker 2: Doing great? Good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you too. You know, I feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good today because You're one of the only guests that

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Speaker 1: have rolled in who can both arrest someone and make

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Speaker 1: a mean cocktail.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like I've that combination right.

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Speaker 1: I'm unprotected and I might get drunk, and I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy about it. So I'm happy to be here. I

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Speaker 1: should know. We are sipping a cocktail you made, yes,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely delicious. Tell me about this before we begin.

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Speaker 2: Well, cheers. This is called our strawberry palm. It's ah.

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Speaker 2: This is our riff on a strawberry dackri that's low

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Speaker 2: sugar more of the natural sugars, if you will. We're

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Speaker 2: trying to really rebrand and be in the rum space

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Speaker 2: about educating people you don't need all the added junkie

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Speaker 2: sugars and sweeteners to have a good cocktail when you

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Speaker 2: want it. So like a simple drink like this is

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Speaker 2: just crushed up strawberry, mashed up strawberries with a little

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Speaker 2: bit deluded maple syrup, lime juice and the rum. And

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Speaker 2: that's it shot. Not just rum, not just any rum,

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Speaker 2: but Palm Republic rum, which makes it extra special. Our

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Speaker 2: silver rum is what's in this which to me and

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Speaker 2: I'm jumping right into rum talk, which I don't want

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Speaker 2: to know, boy, you with right away, but we can

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Speaker 2: talk more about it. But our silver rum is truly special.

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Speaker 1: So no, it's delicious, thank you. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: bottles or beautiful. We are going to dive into the

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Speaker 1: company because I I'm very interested in this from an

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Speaker 1: different things like I want to dive into all of that.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get there for sure. But to begin, I mean,

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Speaker 1: life must be good for you, man, Like personal life

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Speaker 1: seems good, professional life seems good. Season eight of The

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Speaker 1: Rookie is out. Now You're in a good place, huh.

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Speaker 2: I am, I am. I. I think my lucky stars

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Speaker 2: and God all the time for just you know, putting

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Speaker 1: It's huge, all while being on a show that brings

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Speaker 1: so much joy to so many people. Yeah. Right, And

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Speaker 1: you played Tim on The Rookie eight seasons in. How

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say just one thing immediately, which

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Speaker 2: about what I thought I was gonna do in my life,

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Speaker 2: me down. He was like, I'm so sorry. I know

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Speaker 2: you're here with your son, but listen, I just have

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Speaker 2: to tell you something. You saved me. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's an incredible thing to know. And not just him,

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Speaker 2: Rookie was my safe place. It helped me escape from,

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Speaker 1: That's insane. That's I mean, when you hear that, you

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Speaker 2: Do one hundred percent, And you know, we take it

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Speaker 2: The Rookie. I've never ever been on a show for

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Speaker 2: it's gone eight seasons. I've never been a part of

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Speaker 2: for it, guy or girl. It's like they're obsessed with

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Speaker 1: it's it's resonating, it's hot, it's popular, it's not going

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Speaker 2: I will say there's a couple of things. Right. We

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Speaker 2: feel like on hiatus again? And we're like, look, it's

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Speaker 2: evolution of his character for eight seasons, I never know

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Speaker 2: what I'm gonna get every year, Like I really don't

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Speaker 2: It's been that type of a character for me where

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Speaker 2: And it's it's never been that way for at least

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Speaker 1: Do you have to say and where your character goes

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Speaker 2: Not really? I mean we've everybody chimes in here and

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Speaker 2: which was great. I can't reveal who, but phenomenal actress.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping to see. I've always thought exploring Tim's home

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Tim's gone through it. Oh my man, He's

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Speaker 1: gone through it over eight seasons. So if you could

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Speaker 2: I would have to pick maybe, if if I had

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Speaker 2: you don't decide who I am and how I how

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Speaker 2: I made it like I'm who I am despite of you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I've made it without you? Probably that

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Speaker 2: If I had to pick a few other just impactful scenes,

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Speaker 2: I always go back to the Pilot. The way Tim

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Speaker 2: And you know, people don't understand it. But his mission

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Speaker 2: is with his mom. These are things that are values

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00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,159
Speaker 2: that I hold very strong to myself, right, Like I

433
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 2: am a very big family guy, passionate about being a

434
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 2: dad and a good husband and those types of things

435
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: that I'm very very I would say there's many things

436
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,120
Speaker 2: about Tim that are nothing like me, but the most

437
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 2: common things are his loyalty. He'll go to bat for

438
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 2: anybody he cares about, and these are things how I

439
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: am in person. So those are the ways I relate

440
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 2: to him a lot. The way he handles it is

441
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: the way I would do it. You know, I'm much

442
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 2: more of a let me talk through this, let me

443
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 2: see if we can work it out. He's more in

444
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 2: your faces as how it is and go. So I

445
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 2: would say those are the things that through the years

446
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 2: we've seen more and more of with Bradford, and that

447
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 2: I relate.

448
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: To m It's cool, man, It's really cool, Like thinking

449
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 1: sitting here, thinking of everything you've done on the show

450
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: and how people pull from a lot of the things

451
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 1: your character has gone through and how they relate to him. Yeah,

452
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: is a cool thing. Absolutely, And even talking about you

453
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 1: know Chenford earlier, like that relationship. I think people appreciate

454
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: a slope burn and it's real. I mean, relationships aren't

455
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 1: always as magical as a fairytale makes it seem. Right.

456
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: There's there's ups and downs and sides and all of it.

457
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 1: So it's a cool thing that you guys show.

458
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in your dealing in situation. This happens in

459
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: real life with you know, police officers, et cetera. They

460
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with somebody, but there are

461
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: chain of command rules that you shouldn't be dating within

462
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: the department, especially if da da dah. And that we've

463
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: balanced that in reality about how it would have to

464
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: be if there are two sergeants and if you're on shift,

465
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 2: if it's you know, if you're the speerit, but da dah,

466
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 2: And how do you work that out within a romance

467
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 2: and you can be public about it or you're not

468
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: public about it. We've balanced it really well. So I

469
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 2: think that stuff is fun to see in the evolution.

470
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 1: What would surprise us about Melissa?

471
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: About Melissa, yeah, that people don't already know. I mean

472
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: people know she's pretty funny, but she is a very

473
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 2: funny individual. So I would say if people didn't know

474
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of humor. But she's also very earthy, spiritual.

475
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: How would you describe bit, you know.

476
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: What I mean? Like she was sending me to a

477
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: tea shop.

478
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: And ceremonies and yeah, meditation, all that stuff rounded one

479
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 2: with all those sorts of things, right, and very into tea. Yeah,

480
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: I would say that different than her and Alyssa have

481
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: similar qualities in a lot of those ways, but she's

482
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 2: brought a lot of people into that tea space with her,

483
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: you know.

484
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: Very cool for sure, very cool. Man. When when's the

485
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: season nine announcement? I mean, what are we waiting for?

486
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: That's what we're all wondering.

487
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not telling no, I don't know anything.

488
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: I swear we're always like the last ones to find out.

489
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: By the way, how do they not tell you?

490
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: Guys we've been late for pickups? I wouldn't say late.

491
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: I guess we're on time, but we're one of the

492
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: last shows announced every year.

493
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: How you're one of the hottest shows on TV?

494
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. But almost every season

495
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: we've been one of the last pickups.

496
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: So does that freak you out? Like every year you're

497
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh my god, like is it coming?

498
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: Is it not? How do you handle that? Yeah? Listen,

499
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: I was.

500
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: I was joking with Sean about this the other day.

501
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: I am a very realist in this business, and I've

502
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: been through too many highs and lows, and I just

503
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: always is every season I go listen, this season was

504
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: a blessing. Let's see where it lands. I don't ever

505
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: get way ahead of myself. Oh we're coming back. Oh

506
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: we're coming back. I've I've been. I act like I'm

507
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised every single year we come back, even if

508
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: we're a smash it. I just don't trust the business.

509
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: You never know, Okay, So I know we have to

510
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: wait and see. I really I would love an answer,

511
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: just like a plan my life out.

512
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 3: But other than that, well, you're coming back, yeah, I

513
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: would think you're coming back. I feel very confident, you know,

514
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: given our ratings, the way we've performed just out the

515
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 3: gate in the season eight, I mean, we were doing

516
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: numbers that we did in season two. Yeah, you know,

517
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 3: and the La Times came out with a huge article

518
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: that we were the most viewed network show of any

519
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: show with this new young demographic.

520
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: And that's the demo everybody wants. Everybody wants that demo

521
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: and they can't get it in all social media.

522
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: We're true testament to that case study of does social

523
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: media impact a show? And now you're seeing so many shows.

524
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: It's funny. We're doing all these tiktoks right as a

525
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: cast and I'm notorious, I guess as being the one

526
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: that one the most pranks with the cast. I mean,

527
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: this chicken dance thing I did with Lizette is like

528
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: almost two hundred and no was it two hundred and

529
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: fifty million views or something crazy?

530
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: Right?

531
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: And then we see all these other shows trying to

532
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: do similar things as a cast, and there you're seeing

533
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: now Lazette goes out and she's like, I got recognized

534
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: today as the chicken dance girl. I'm not the girl

535
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: from the rookie right, you know, Richard, I did this

536
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: Bugatti trend. Oh my god, I'm the Bugatti guy, not

537
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: even the.

538
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Rookie, right.

539
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: TikTok f yes, So that has proven to bring in

540
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: these young viewers. And I'm not even joking. I got

541
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: off the plane coming here in New York. I landed

542
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: and the lady opened the door for me. She goes,

543
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, I have a huge fan of the

544
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: show and I started watching it because of a TikTok clip. Now,

545
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: she goes, I went back and I revenged everything and

546
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: we're fully my husband and are fully caught up, and

547
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: she goes, it all started because of one TikTok clip.

548
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: So there it is.

549
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing power of social media. Power social media. Well

550
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: to put a pin on the rookie portion of this

551
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: when you one day are all wrapped and you're looking

552
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: back at your your work as Tim, what do you

553
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: want him to be remembered for in this series?

554
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Uh? Someone who was loyal, fought hard, cared about his team,

555
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: and cared about his family. And I think that's what

556
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: we've gotten from Tim. You know, he's he's somebody that's

557
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna he'll go to the end with you and I

558
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: hope at the very end of the episode or the

559
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: end of the series, we see Tim go to all

560
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: those great lengths that you're like, Okay, this is what

561
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: made him such a great complex character. Yeah, he overcame

562
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: all obstacles to land in a great place.

563
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: You have a lot of pride playing. Yeah that's a

564
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: good feeling. Yeah, for sure, that's a good feeling. How

565
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: do you aside from you know, put work aside for

566
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: a minute. You're that takes up the majority of your life, right,

567
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: Like how many you shoot? What? Eight months year? Just about?

568
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

569
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: Eight months a year. It's always on your memorizing lines

570
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: are going to work. I assume that's just kind of

571
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: this hamster will when you're doing it and you're balancing

572
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: being a dad and a husband and an entrepreneur, I mean,

573
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: how how do you take time for you? How do

574
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: you take care of your mental health and protect to yourself.

575
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question, and time management's key. But

576
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: I definitely come last on that list for sure. I

577
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: mean I always try to My family is always first

578
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: with everything, So I'm always trying to be you know,

579
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: husband and dad, and I'm going to all the school

580
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: functions and I'm trying to be on field trips, and

581
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do everything I can when I'm not working.

582
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: And then I go, like we joke at work, like, oh,

583
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: what are you doing this weekend? I was like, this weekend,

584
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: I got tennis all day on Saturday, and if I'm

585
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: not doing and Sunday possibly, and if I'm not that,

586
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm at soccer with my son. So it's just kids

587
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: sports all weekend. And then I go back to work

588
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: and I'm just on the grind. Now, like you said,

589
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: there's three or four months that I'm off, and if

590
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: I can fit another thing in, you know, work wise,

591
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 2: that lines up great. Otherwise I have a you know,

592
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: this run brand that keeps me extra busy. So I'm

593
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: doing that not only while I'm on the show, but

594
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: during the hiatus, I'm constantly traveling and we're doing signings,

595
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: you know, we're at these different total wines and stuff

596
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: like that and specs and we're going all over. So

597
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: it's it's juggling act. I'd need to be honest, to

598
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: find more time for myself, probably to decompress better. But

599
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a that's a tough one.

600
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: But it's a real que I mean it's a real answer,

601
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Like it's it is a juggling act. Yeah, I don't

602
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: think anyone ever fully figures it out when you have

603
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: your hands in a bunch of different pots. Yeah, and

604
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: that's something we all strive for, but it's it's a

605
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: work in progress, right. And to add your rum brand

606
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: and everything else you're doing being a family man on

607
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: top of being on a show that's so amplified, I mean,

608
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a lot of attention on you at all times.

609
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of attention. Has all of that attention

610
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and fame force you to ever have to face a

611
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: part of yourself or work on a part of yourself

612
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: that you didn't really know you needed to.

613
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Like, I'm pretty chill when it

614
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: comes to all the fame and success type stuff. That's

615
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: another funny thing about, at least with me in this business.

616
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: I've never I've always considered myself acting is my job.

617
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: It's not who I am in a way, if that

618
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: makes sense, Like I don't take myself too serious. I

619
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: take my work serious, but I'm like, I'm an actor,

620
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm successful, celebrity on the show. Like I never think

621
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: about any of that, Like I'm still the same guy

622
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: that grew up all up one grew up and you

623
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: I went to school in La. When do you say

624
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: all these things? And I never take it serious. So

625
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: I always say, this is my profession, it's not who

626
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: I am, And for whatever reason, that helps me balance

627
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: a lot of the stresses that come Maybe with it.

628
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Social media adds a little bit more stress, right because

629
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: anything you're under a microscope for anything you do, and

630
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: people might take something the wrong way or whatever, and

631
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: you can only do your best to manage that or

632
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: stay off of it and try not to pay attention

633
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: to it much. But it comes with the territory. Yeah,

634
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: you gotta roll with it. There's a great side to

635
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: social media and there's the tough side.

636
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: Well, it's a healthy mentality to have because I've talked

637
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: to many artists over the course of my career, and

638
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: the ones that don't think like that, I see such loneliness,

639
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: and I think any job can't be our full identity.

640
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, but you can't. We all love our work

641
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: hopefully and it's a big piece of us, but you

642
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: can't only live for it. Yeah, you can't.

643
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: You really can't. And I especially feel that way in

644
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: entertainment because it's so fleeting. It can be gone in

645
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: an instant. All the success can be taken away, and

646
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: then you're just like, but I was that person. It's like, no,

647
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: if you never took that person so serious as the celebrity,

648
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: then you won't miss it when it's not there, because

649
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: it's going to stop at some point. You're not going

650
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: to have all that attention. Sure, you get the brad

651
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Pitts and the big ones that entocaprios that have been

652
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: there for you know, decades on that pedestal or and

653
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: many women and men both just in that place. But

654
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: it's so fleeting you can't buy into what this business.

655
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: As soon as this business gives you something, it'll take

656
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: it away.

657
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Is that part of the reason why you've gotten into

658
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: other ventures?

659
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think that's why you're seeing so

660
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: many entertainers go into other ventures. Whatever it rather be producing,

661
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: whether it be entrepreneurship, anything is. People just don't want

662
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: to be reliant on one avenue anymore. And when we

663
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: had our podcast, that was another avenue that we were doing,

664
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: and the rum and again producing. We want to be

665
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: do things behind the camera as well. My wife's directed

666
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: her first movie. There's a lot of stuff that we

667
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: want to keep busy with where we have a little

668
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: bit more control of the reins, and there's not We're

669
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: just not always put our hands up saying pick me,

670
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: pick me.

671
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, it takes. It feels good to

672
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: take control. It does, right.

673
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: It adds more pressure too, yeah, but it still feels

674
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: way better to feel at least like you're controlling the

675
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: ship a bit more.

676
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sitting here about to my final sip of

677
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: this cocktail. I'm really pissed because it's so good and

678
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: I love this brand. I mean, it's beautiful, it's sexy,

679
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: the drink is good. What made you want to create

680
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: create this?

681
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. So my my father in law, who actually just

682
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: passed away this past week. But when I first went

683
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: to meet him in Puerto Rico with Roslin, he sat

684
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: me down and said, Hey, we're gonna talk and I'm

685
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: gonna pour some rum and we're gonna just have a chat.

686
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not a rum drinker.

687
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: I was.

688
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: I was a vodka guy at the time. I'm a

689
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: little bit of whiskeys and bourbons and stuff like that,

690
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: but I'd never really to me, rum was just sugary sweet.

691
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: It was Captain and coke, it was Malibu. It was like,

692
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: just wasn't what I drank.

693
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Like a high school party?

694
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, a lot of sugary stuff.

695
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: And I had this premium aged rum and I thought, dang,

696
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: this is way better than I anticipated. This is much

697
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: more like a bourbon or a whiskey. I had a

698
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: lot of good characteristics to it. And from that point,

699
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: you know, we'd go to Puerto Rico, I'd go on

700
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: rum tours. I'd travel on the island, go different distilleries,

701
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: try different blend, you know, different RUMs that they'd have

702
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: that were Puerto Rican RUMs. We'd go on vacation. I

703
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: was in you know, Panama one time. Let me try

704
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: this rum here. Oh we're in Dominican Republic. Let me

705
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: try their local road. Let me try all these different

706
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: RUMs from different regions. And I would say a few

707
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: years ago, Rozin was like, you should get into the

708
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: rum space. I said, but everything's all about tequila right now,

709
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah. And I started thinking, well, you know,

710
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: twenty years ago, tequila was garbage. Nobody was talking about tequila.

711
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: Like that was what I grew up, drinking shots with

712
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: lime and salt. And it was like, oh and you

713
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: just you get sick later and it's all slushy margaritas

714
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: and you know, skinny markets. None that stuff existed, and

715
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: Patrone and little by little things sort of building up

716
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: this premium tequila category. Then you started seeing it more

717
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: and more with bourbons and whiskeys and things rising. And

718
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: for a while I started doing my research and rum

719
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: was going to have the surge of popularity when it

720
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: came to premium rum. And like we talked a little

721
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: bit about before we started the podcast, but people might

722
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: be drinking less but when they do drink, they want

723
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: to drink quality and nobody's looking for more sugar. So

724
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: our mission with Palm Republic was, I want to take

725
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: blends from some of my favorite places I've had rum.

726
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: For me, it was like a blending of culture. When

727
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: I met my father in law in Puerto Rico, I

728
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: was like, this is my life. It's a blend of cultures.

729
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: Let me bring cultures together and so our age. You know,

730
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: we have Panama Jamaica USVII, and our silver we have

731
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Jamaica USVII. So we were bringing some of our favorites

732
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: together to bring this blend that's truly unique to us,

733
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: and we wanted to do it on a premium scale,

734
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: no added sugars, no added colors, just pure as it

735
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: should be sipped. And we wanted people to start seeing

736
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: rum differently in the US. All over the world, it's

737
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: already been seen that way. I mean South America, Caribbean, Asia,

738
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Rum is huge, Europe, it's huge rum bars. People love

739
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: the spirit, and we're starting to see that more in

740
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: the US with a lot more premium RUMs hitting the market.

741
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: So when we also rebranded with these I think amazing

742
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: new bottles. We said, look, let's do what we are

743
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: talking about by coming out with very low sugar cocktails.

744
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: You'll see them on our website. You don't need a

745
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: lot to make a great drink. We want you to

746
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: enjoy the rum either on the rocks, neat with sipping rituals,

747
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: or very minimal ingredients. And in doing all this, we

748
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: want people to start seeing rum in a new light,

749
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: not dark, dusty bottles, not just heritage brands coming from

750
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: one origin. We want people to embrace the experience. And

751
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: our slogan is where will it take you? We want

752
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: it to be an adventure. Every time you take a

753
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: sip someplace new, you're transported. Whereas it's a perfect time

754
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: to be drinking the strawberry palm because we're in freezing

755
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: New York and this makes me feel like I want

756
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: to be on the beach in the Caribbean.

757
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Yeah, no, I mean the bottles are

758
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the bottles are absolutely stunning.

759
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you the storytelling. We put so much

760
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: thought into this, but this is so these that has

761
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: three palm fronds on the label, This has two because

762
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: we have two. We have the USVII in Jamaica, so

763
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: those palms are unique to USVII in Jamaica. That one

764
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: has the Panamanian palm added on the label and the

765
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: whole bottle these ridges. It's really if you imagine a

766
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: palm frond wrapped down the bottle dipping in a wave

767
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: of water like the.

768
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Caribbean c that's sick.

769
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: So that was our hole and we obviously the beautiful

770
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: gold topper and even our logo is palm fronds. It's

771
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: three palms from the different regions.

772
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: I mean.

773
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: So we put a lot of thought into bringing people

774
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: into the experience, and unanimously people were like, I would

775
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: keep this bottle and upcycle and use it as a

776
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: vase or as a canvas. You can use it for

777
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff.

778
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: It's like a part piece. Yeah, it's sick. Is there

779
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: when you made these drinks? Do you have an open

780
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: bottle somewhere?

781
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: We have an open silver out there.

782
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have an open silver out there. I would

783
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: love to try the open silver if someone will.

784
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: The way I'll say the way I drink silver, I

785
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: drink it because I used to drink. I don't know

786
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: how you drink on a regular basis. If you're a

787
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: neat guy, or if you're on the rocks guy, or

788
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: how you drink I do our silver with just a

789
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: squirt a lime on the rocks, and that's how I

790
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: used to drink my vodka. And even my friends who

791
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 2: drink tequila and they love it. They were blown.

792
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: Away to try that. I can try it after. I'm

793
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna try it by itself, so it can really taste

794
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: a run because that drink was delicious, thank you, Like

795
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: absolutely delicious. How do you balance them being an artist

796
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: and actor with entrepreneurship. I mean, what are the challenges

797
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: because having this alone is full time.

798
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, it makes me drink a lot. I cope with it, no,

799
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: I you know, listen, this is a whole new world

800
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: for me being an entrepreneur to this level. Like I've

801
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: invested in things, but I've never had a baby, and

802
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: this this is something that for me, I truly didn't

803
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: and I mean it when I say it. It's not

804
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: a celebrity brand. I don't see myself as a celebrity

805
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: putting myself on a brand. This comes from a labor

806
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: of love and a passion that I discovered in Puerto

807
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: Rico and I said, I want to rum I want

808
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: a brand that stands on its own. So the rum

809
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: is the star. So I've built an incredible team around us.

810
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: I've investors and our board and everybody that we all

811
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: know this is about making Palm Republics stand on its

812
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: own and I'm along for the ride with it. I'm

813
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: not the one trying to say, hey, it's me, me, me,

814
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: just buy it because of me.

815
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: Nope.

816
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: So having that, have an incredible team that helps balance

817
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: the palm part of it, and then with everything else

818
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: with work, it's again just that juggling act of keeping

819
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: the harmony of it all.

820
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: I imagine on your free time, it's this.

821
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I have signings. I'll be all over the US

822
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: again doing signs. So I'm going to Europe with a

823
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: lot of the cast in Germany where we've been able

824
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: to get the rum now and they can sell direct

825
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: a consumer about six different countries Europe. So I was

826
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: in Germany not too long ago and we had a

827
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: huge turn out of people buying Palm Republic, which was

828
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: incredible to see.

829
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: That's sick. Yeah, that's sick man, busy and booked. Yes,

830
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: that's the dream. Is the dream, that's the dream. What

831
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: aren't you doing well? I guess we were talking earlier

832
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: your podcast. People miss your podcast. I know they miss

833
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: you on the mic. What are you bringing any of

834
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: your shows? What are you doing? You're coming back.

835
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: We are going to come back. We have to figure

836
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: out the timing of it and line it all up.

837
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: We had a lot of things going on with Rosland

838
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: traveling and it was becoming difficult of me just by

839
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: myself on the podcast and juggling it all. And we

840
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: want to do sort of a format like you have

841
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: here with a lot of great video where it's not

842
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: just clips of us, but you're going to be able

843
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: to see a great sit down, right, you know, conversation piece,

844
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: and that's what we want to build out when we relaunch.

845
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: All right, So coming soon, Yeah, coming soon. I like that.

846
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: My man, Well this I mean I could talk to

847
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: you for another hour. This has been so much fun.

848
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: But to wrap this up, the name of the show

849
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: is called I've never said this before, And I created

850
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: this because I cover a lot of red carpets and

851
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: junkets for my other jobs. And you know, they're quick,

852
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: they're they're not as meaningful as I would like. I

853
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: love conversation, I love people, and I walk away from

854
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: those events quite often being like, all right, man, I

855
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: wish there was just a little more time. So I

856
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: came up with the show where people can come on

857
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: and talk about things that mean something to them, and

858
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: I ask a question at the end, which is what

859
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: is one thing you've never said before? To give artists

860
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: a chance to say whatever they want to say that

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Speaker 1: they don't always get to talk about whatever that means

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's a tough one because I say

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Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, one thing I will say, which I

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Speaker 2: kind of touched on earlier, and I said I would

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Speaker 2: circle back to is that I probably should have been

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Speaker 2: And I was very close to being a paramedic. I

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to be an actor. This was a very

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Speaker 2: crazy change of path for me, and I was probably

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Speaker 2: one step away from being brought into the fire academy

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Speaker 2: to being a firefighter paramedic. I was EMT certified, went

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Speaker 2: through all my training, all every single test, and I

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Speaker 2: had quit acting for a while and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going back. I'm not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't like the rejection. And I got a call from

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Speaker 2: my agent and they want to see you for a

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Speaker 2: soap opera and I was like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: do a soap, and I decided to do a soap

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Speaker 2: and basically the soap said we want you. And the

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Speaker 2: week later after I agreed to do the soap, the

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Speaker 2: fire department called me and said, we want you to

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Speaker 2: join the academy. Yeah. Wow, And that was my I go.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be a doctor my whole life. I

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Speaker 2: was at med school, pre met, I was at pre

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Speaker 2: med at UCLA, So I wanted to be a doctor.

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Speaker 2: So my goal was always to do that. So I

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Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be doing this right now. I shouldn't even

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Speaker 2: be sitting here. I should be as a first responder

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Speaker 2: somewhere and I just play a fake one on team There.

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Speaker 1: You go, full sirch. Yeah, this is a part of you.

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Speaker 1: Ever wonder like what if?

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Speaker 2: All the time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 2: Even people that I met when I was going through

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Speaker 2: the process that I'm like, man, that guy became a

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Speaker 2: stuff together. Yeah, So I always wonder what would have

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Speaker 2: how my life would have played out.

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Speaker 1: But you know what this was supposed to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely it was. It was just look what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: and look what all the things are creating, and it's

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Speaker 1: funny where life will take you, right, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I had all all that happened, I wouldn't have met

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have my kids. I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 2: those moments in life where you go, huh, I fully

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Speaker 2: reinvented my journey.

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