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Speaker 1: Here we go our two, ready to roll. Matt Hasselback

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Speaker 1: five minutes. We're live. We're in Chicago, a city that

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Speaker 1: wins NFL playoff.

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Speaker 2: Games, at least now they do. It was crazy weekend.

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Speaker 1: You know, the NBA is very star reliant, and baseball

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Speaker 1: can be franchise reliant. The NBA sells teams. You put

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Speaker 1: the Niners and Eagles out there. I don't even have

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Speaker 1: to like Hertz or sirih Yanni and Rock Perty doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be a superstar. And it's just like, pulls

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Speaker 1: me in. Pulls me. Bears can be terrible forever the

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Speaker 1: minute they're good, pulls me in. When you sell teams

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Speaker 1: and product over individual franchises and markets and star quarterbars,

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Speaker 1: star NBA players, it's amazing that you don't have these

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Speaker 1: massive dips in popularity and ratings. Just a remarkable weekend.

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Speaker 1: Here we go Colin right, Colin wrong, and a.

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Speaker 2: Monday where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I said it in October, Kyle Shanahan was my

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Speaker 1: coach of the Year and he and Salo were my

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Speaker 1: staff of the year. Mac Jones started eight games, no

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Speaker 1: Kittle for a while, Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of injuries. They still end up with the top

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Speaker 1: ten offense thirteen and five. He and Sala put on

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Speaker 1: a clinic Philadelphia forced into multiple three and outs. I

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Speaker 1: mean they held the Eagles with that Bondo duct tape

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Speaker 1: defense in San Francisco to four point three yards per play.

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Speaker 2: That is coaching where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Bills, despite being completely riot reliant on one player,

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Speaker 1: beat the Jags and keep winning. I don't love their

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Speaker 1: wide receiver group. Special teams now due to injuries, are shaky.

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Speaker 1: The defense has kind of mid. I don't even always

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Speaker 1: loved their head coach. But fourth team ever to win

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Speaker 1: and there's just nothing on the market like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of that was Josh Allen. I kept asking

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Speaker 1: all week how are the Jags underdogs? And then I

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Speaker 1: watched the game and went, oh, yeah, yeah, Josh Allen, That's.

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Speaker 2: Why where Colin was right, Nick.

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Speaker 1: Seriani, I've always thought his winning is a reflection of

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Speaker 1: the roster and the GM, not coaching acumen. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of different ways to win in some of its

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Speaker 1: roster construction. He's arguing with aj Brown, don't love that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just I look at this team and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't call plays. I'm tall, all these great at

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Speaker 1: managing egos, but that's not what I keep seeing. And

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Speaker 1: I mean I understand that Jalen Hurts can struggle to

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Speaker 1: see over the line, like I get it, But there's

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Speaker 1: just too much talent here to score nine points a

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Speaker 1: game this year in the second half. There's too much

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Speaker 1: talent at some point. I mean, he feels Sirianni to me,

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Speaker 1: feels completely offensive coordinator reliant.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong. I'm a Justin Herbert defender.

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Speaker 1: But two fumbles, three points, seventy four passer rating. Listen,

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Speaker 1: he's played twelve playoff quarters. Ten have been suboptimal. Now

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Speaker 1: he's had a couple of bad coaches and now he's

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Speaker 1: got an atrocious offensive line and Peyton Manning went oh

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Speaker 1: for his first three. I didn't like the Chargers in

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Speaker 1: this game with points or winning. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: you can win with that kind of offensive line. But

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Speaker 1: his career playoff passer rating is sixty four, And as

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Speaker 1: much as I defend him, some of it's on him.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Kevin Stefanski, I said, go ahead, Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: fire him. He's going to be a top candidate. He's

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Speaker 1: already interviewed with the Giants and the Ravens and the

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Speaker 1: He's an IVY League guy, two time coach of the Year,

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Speaker 1: which is not exactly easy to.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought he gets the most out of his players.

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Speaker 1: I think Shadoor Sanders has improved.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me this year's ago, if you fire somebody,

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh getting fired coming at all. I mean, he's thirteen

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Speaker 2: A lot of jobs.

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Speaker 1: But Steve Bushatti, one of the better owners, fired him

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Speaker 2: I don't love that.

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Speaker 1: I guess it happened, but that one caught me off guard.

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Speaker 1: They sat down for a while and driving away he

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I predicted Miami in Indiana would end up in

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. So I think Miami matches

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Speaker 1: up pretty well with Indiana. I mean, they've got playmakers

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Speaker 1: in a third National championship. But boy, Miami makes mistakes

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Speaker 1: and Indiana will make you pay for all of them.

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Speaker 1: But Miami Indiana is what I thought would happen, where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right. Finally, I've been saying this for two years.

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Speaker 1: If a car dealer or a bourbon distributor is your

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Speaker 1: number one booster in ANIL, you are not beating the

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Speaker 1: big ten Notre Dame in Miami, ole miss against Miami

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was particularly close, so thank God

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Speaker 1: for Texas Oil money or I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: SEC would be, but our third strate national championship without

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Speaker 1: an SEC team, and I think it's even worse than that.

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Speaker 1: If you start looking at the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: in the playoff, who the SE teams SEC teams are beating.

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Speaker 1: It's other SEC teams and two lane.

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Speaker 2: I'm now go the top ten NFL teams according to

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna put Chicago there. Season low in penalties

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Speaker 2: I didn't love Ben Johnson's night. In turn. I thought

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Speaker 1: Desperate in the first half, try to get a little cute.

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Speaker 2: But they played clean.

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Speaker 1: They're seven to two at home this year, nine and

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Speaker 1: two against teams outside of their division. They're a great

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter team, first win without a without a takeaway,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot to take from it. They played

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Speaker 1: a clean game. Caleb was remarkable, but losing their starting

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Speaker 1: left tackle and linebacker TJ. Edwards is going to hurt

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. They are not nearly as athletic defensively,

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Speaker 1: Edwards and they're left tackle against Jared Verse. I worry

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Speaker 1: about the Bears. I have them at eight, number seven

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Speaker 1: San Francisco again. Now you can prepare for the Niners

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Speaker 1: without George Kittle, You're not losing him in game. Brock

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Speaker 1: Purty as a pick in four straight games, I don't

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Speaker 1: really care. What I care is if you look at Brock,

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Speaker 1: Perty's had four game winning drives in six playoff games.

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Speaker 1: That's what matters to me. They've won eleven straight playoff

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Speaker 1: games in the wild Card Divisional round and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of that's Kyle Shanahan. But I think going

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Speaker 1: into a game without Kittle, very rested Seattle team, that

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Speaker 2: I have them at seven, number six a Denver. Listen.

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Speaker 1: They're very, very good at home and eleven and two

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Speaker 1: and one score games. But there's there's no more Raiders,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no more lightweight offenses like the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: And they do lead the NFL in sacks and allow

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Speaker 1: they've been held at twenty or fewer points in five

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Speaker 2: And I said this, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: So sure taking the week off was good for the

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Speaker 2: I have him at six, number five Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's probably going to beat him and I

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Speaker 1: didn't think that a couple of weeks ago, but it

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Speaker 1: of seven games and Josh Allen listen to this and

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Speaker 1: his last seven playoff games. Josh Allen nineteen total touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: He has a way of getting rid of the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They've got their tush push figured out, which they didn't

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Speaker 1: last year in the playoffs. And I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: I think their offensive personnels better than I give it

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Speaker 1: I have them at five, number four, but neutral field,

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Speaker 1: I take the Texans.

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Speaker 2: They've won ten straight.

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Speaker 1: Their defense last night outscored the Steelers offense. I mean

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was playing well and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: they saw Houston and they weren't. They outgained the Steelers

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Speaker 1: four oh eight. The one to seventy five. Nico Collins

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Speaker 1: injury is not good, not good at all. But you

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Speaker 1: know what Woody Marks is healthy. Christian Kirk CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I got Houston at four number three. The Rams, I

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Speaker 1: mean they're beatable because I don't like their special teams

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Speaker 1: and they had nine penalties against the Panthers. They just

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Speaker 1: couldn't lock in, and they're four and three over their

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Speaker 1: last seven games. The key to beating the Rams is

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Speaker 1: forcing turnovers. So they're zero in three in games with

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Speaker 1: multiple giveaways this year.

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Speaker 2: That's the way to beat them.

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Speaker 1: Get pressure on MAT's effort, dial up a reckless play.

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Speaker 1: They don't fumble a ton. That's the way to beat

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Speaker 1: the Rams because when they play clean and they are

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Speaker 1: healthier than the Bears. They're thirteen and two Rams at

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Speaker 1: three number two. I like New England. You know, everybody says, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're two and two against teams you know

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Speaker 1: with winning records. Tay, they lost to Buffalo and they

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Speaker 1: also beat Buffalo, I don't think in a weird way,

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Speaker 1: it reminds me a little of the Brady Belichick Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their hole is, but they're not

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Speaker 1: great everywhere. I never thought Brady had the best receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: For a brief time, he had the best tight end corps.

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Speaker 1: They have not allowed a one hundred yard rusher in

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Speaker 1: All right, I do this this will be. I always

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Speaker 1: They won eleven of twelve, only lost two points in

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Speaker 1: five yards four yards of the Papa is fine, don't

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00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: try to get I mean, I think this Seattle defense

435
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: looks a little like the one you face, which is

436
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: hyper aggressive, seeking turnovers super fast. Do you see any similarities?

437
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 4: They closed space as well as any defense in only

438
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 4: as soon as the ball's caught, boom, there's guys on them.

439
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 4: There's linebacker's kitting you. Ernest Jones been phenomenal and got

440
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 4: tremendous speed. He covers up so much wround with the

441
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: spoons phenomenal. Eve unworried. The rookie is insane. They've got

442
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 4: this kind of swarming defense wherever the ball goes. It's

443
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 4: like there's these like scud missiles that are just flying

444
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: in to hit the ball carrier.

445
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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating defense.

446
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: And then they got one of the most underrated defensive

447
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: lines in the league. I think the interior defensive line

448
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: is phenomenal. They've got four edge guys they rotate in

449
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: that are all kind of unique. They have different traits.

450
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: They really challenge the tackles. There's a reason why they

451
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 4: were the top scoring defense in the league. They just

452
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: have really suffocated these offenses by taking the space and

453
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: just making the field feel like it's so much smaller.

454
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: So they haven't allowed like one hundred yard rusher in

455
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: you know, a season and a half or something like that.

456
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: It's been insane. They're tackling is good. Their past defense

457
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: is elite. Their coverage schemes are really tricky for the quarterback.

458
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: You need a very kind of diversified set of weapons.

459
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: On offense, We're going to move the ball and they

460
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: don't give up a ton of big plays, so you're

461
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: gonna have to drive the ball down the field. The

462
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: Niners are going to have to keep it a low

463
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: scoring game. Look in the Week eighteen game, it was

464
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: thirteen to three at one point, and then the ball

465
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: got intercepted when perty threw it to McCaffrey. Ball got

466
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: batted up in the air. Could have been thirteen ten,

467
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: could have been very tight game. Instead, one little mistake

468
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: like that, one little batted ball and the game is over.

469
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Speaker 1: So Matt Stafford, Texas.

470
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Speaker 2: Then he goes to Georgia. Then he goes to a dome.

471
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Speaker 1: Now he's in La It's not exactly the harshest environments

472
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Speaker 1: in his life. And there he goes. And I've told

473
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Speaker 1: you this before. I thought you were the best cold

474
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: weather thrower I've ever seen in my life. But Stafford's

475
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: whole career has been domes in warm weather. And it's

476
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: so far and it Sunday is supposed to be feel

477
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: like minus nine for you, you know, Michigan, New England.

478
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: But I remember, I've told you before. I see pregame

479
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: shots of guys you faced in Foxboro and I'd be like, oh,

480
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: Tom's one. It's an hour before we get Tom's one.

481
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Speaker 1: How does you psychologically? How do you psychologically when the

482
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: environment's not ideal? How do you get out of that

483
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: space and not think about it and not let it

484
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Speaker 1: affect you.

485
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question, Colin, and it's almost there.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be a mental part to it. A

487
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: lot of it is.

488
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: There's a physical element to dealing with the cold. It's

489
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: not just mental. Toughness. It's also the team that has

490
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: the advantage is the one that practices in it.

491
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Speaker 3: All the time.

492
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Speaker 4: And when we were in Foxboro, we practice outdoor. We

493
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 4: had like a nice indoor facility. We used to look

494
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 4: at it all the time and be like, man, why

495
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: don't we ever go in there? It's been a nice

496
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 4: actually maybe going and Bill would be like, we're outside,

497
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: you know, And it's just your body acclimated over the

498
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: course of a long season to you know, the warm

499
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 4: weather in the summer, as it dropped through the fall

500
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: and then into the winter, you had to deal with

501
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: twenty degree weather, fifteen degree weather with twenty one on

502
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: hour winds, and over time you just learned how to

503
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: deal with I knew exactly how many layers of clothes

504
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: to put on per the temperature, and I was always going, Okay,

505
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: you don't want to be like Ralfie from Toy Story,

506
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 4: where you got so much damn clothes on you can't

507
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: move the ball. So you've got to be still have

508
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: just enough layers on to keep you warm, but not

509
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: too much where you feel restricted in anyway. You know,

510
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: the big Lineman they got so much insulation, you know,

511
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 4: they got a lot of body fats, so they're not

512
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: going to be the ones that are cold. But it's

513
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 4: kind of the skill players that have, you know, got

514
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Speaker 4: to use their hands and the gloves and all kind

515
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 4: of the fine motor skills you need in the really

516
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: cold weather. And Matt did play in Detroit for a

517
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: long time and in that division, you did go outside

518
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: to Chicago in Green Bay.

519
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: It's not like he hasn't played in it.

520
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: But I will say when I went to Tampa after

521
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: my time in New England, it didn't take me very

522
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: long to get very.

523
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Speaker 3: Soft to the cold weather.

524
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Speaker 4: And we ended up going to Green Bay in the

525
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: NFC Championship game my first year, and very fortunately the

526
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: game wasn't that cold.

527
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Speaker 3: It was like.

528
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: Thirty two thirty four degrees CAF. It wasn't minus nine.

529
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 4: That is really cold, and that's a big advantage for

530
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: Chicago because Chicago has played in these conditions. Now for

531
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Speaker 4: the last six weeks, it's been terrible weather in the Midwest.

532
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: They played against Cleveland in the freezing cold. Caleb looked

533
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 4: like it was just like he was playing at the

534
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: coliseum in La He was firing that ball over the

535
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 4: field and he's a really unique player.

536
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: They've got a.

537
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: Really unique team if there's a team that can figure

538
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 4: it out. And I love the Rams all year with

539
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: their kind of their diversification of what they do in offense.

540
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: Tight ends receivers, run game. Everyone touches it and that's

541
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: the moving target. Sean keeps everyone out balance. This is

542
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: going to be another terrific matchup. I'm so excited to

543
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: see the winner of this game.

544
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Speaker 1: Oh same here. So Josh Allen, you know you can do.

545
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: I remember an ELI team that went on the road

546
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Speaker 1: and kept winning road games. Burrow got to a super

547
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Bowl with a bunch of road It's hard, so you know,

548
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: buffs already jammed up in the Northeast.

549
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: Then they go down to Florida, then their home.

550
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Now they go out to Mile High and I'm thinking

551
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: to myself, man, and now Josh is not one hundred percent.

552
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: They're down to three active wide receivers. And then part

553
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: of me thinks, oh that's that's what Superman needs. Now's

554
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: the phone booth go to your career. Was there a

555
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: game where you're down two receivers it's a second straight

556
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: roady you mostly at homes and that you really felt, man,

557
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: we are this thing is holding on by a thread.

558
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I've got a slot receiver from Boise State. I'm crossing

559
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: my fingers. James Cook's a ankle doesn't go. Did you

560
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: ever have a moment like that? And what did it

561
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: play into it emotionally and physically?

562
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: How it turned out?

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Interesting.

564
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: We twenty thirteen, we had kind of a rash injuries

565
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: in that season. Gronk got injured, we were down. We

566
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: went to Denver in the championship game, we lost all

567
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: our backs. We brought in Stephen Jackson to play. It

568
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: was just a hard year, losing backs, losing tight ends,

569
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: kind of offensive line in and out. We're dealing with

570
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: rookie receivers on the road in the championship game, and

571
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: we still.

572
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Speaker 3: Made it a game. It was really close.

573
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Speaker 4: I mean, we really could have made some plays early

574
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: in the game to kind of give us a little momentum,

575
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: but because we didn't play very well early. I remember

576
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: I missed the pass to Julian across the field on

577
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: kind of that would have gave us a lot of momentum.

578
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 4: You just get behind, and when you get behind and

579
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: you don't have all your weapons, it's really hard to

580
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: dig yourself out. Of a hole, like even a Niner

581
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: game against the Eagles last week. The Niners have been

582
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: very you know, obviously so many injuries. They've been beaten

583
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: up all year long. They go into the Eagles and

584
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: they got off to a good start. They went down

585
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: the field and scored right away, and I was like,

586
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: Holy chow, this is awesome. You know we I wasn't

587
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: expecting that against that kind of great Eagles defense. But

588
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: that just injects a lot of life into, you know,

589
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: the visiting team and also deflace the crowd of the

590
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: home team because they're like, oh, god's right away.

591
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 3: You shut them up.

592
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: So that's what I think Buffalo needs to do. I know,

593
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: they're depleted. Their past game has been a little volatile

594
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: this year. They do have an incredible run game, a

595
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: very good run blocking offensive line, and they've got a

596
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 4: really challenging Broncos defense. They're going against another defense that's

597
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 4: very similar to Seattle, really unique structure of defense, really

598
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: well coached. They're always on the details of nuances. And

599
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: then you know, Josh has got a great opportunity to

600
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: you know, this is this is the game for him.

601
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of career defining games

602
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: for quarterbacks, and when you're a veteran quarterback and you're

603
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: not dealing with Patrick Mahomes anymore. And that's been kind

604
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: of a bit of a kryptonite for the Bills over

605
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: the years. They're looking at like, Okay, this is this

606
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: is the time for you know who. They feel Josh

607
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks in ac to go out

608
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: there and have his year. He won the MVP last year.

609
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: It's got a great chance to go on the road.

610
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: I know he's a little bit under man, but you know,

611
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: that happens and Denver may not have everybody.

612
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Denver could lose somebody in the first quarter of the game.

613
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 4: You don't know how it's going to play out, but

614
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: it's hard to it's hard to not love the Buffalo

615
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: Bills in this story. And you know, I think it

616
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 4: would be just incredible for their fan base, who had been,

617
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: you know, so enthusiastic about this team to finally get

618
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: over the hump and then make it to you know,

619
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: a championship game. It's gonna be a tough battle, but

620
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: it's a just again another great game.

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Speaker 1: You're former a dynasty, the Patriots and the Texans. I

622
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Speaker 1: think I'd feel better about it for Drake May if

623
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Speaker 1: it was year seven. Famously, you had talked to Jake

624
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Lazer at one point it was in camp, and you said,

625
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think I've seen everything. I've got the

626
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: answers to the test. You don't have that, Drake. Drake

627
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: May doesn't have the answers to all the test questions.

628
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: And Houston's defense, maybe it's not the Ray Lewis, Ravens, Tom.

629
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Speaker 1: You can turn the sound down. It just looks longer, faster,

630
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: and stronger that everybody in the league. It's it is

631
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: justin Herbert looked out overwhelmed. Do you worry that Drake

632
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: just hasn't faced anything close to this this year?

633
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: Well, it is interesting.

634
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: I think the Patriots, you know, they haven't had you know,

635
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: I would say when you look at their schedule, the

636
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: quality of competition hasn't been you know what. Some other

637
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: teams may have it now, that doesn't matter because that's

638
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: not the Patriots' fault. You know, you play who's on

639
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: the schedule, and however those teams are playing. You know,

640
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 4: they line you up and you've got to go out

641
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: there and be who you're going to be. You're now

642
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: into the final eight. Who's the best eight teams in football?

643
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: They've earned it. The teams that got the buy had

644
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: the best seasons in their conferences. The teams the other

645
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: three teams that are playing per conference have already won

646
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: a playoff game. They're riding high on confidence. They feel like, hey,

647
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: we can hang with anybody. And I thought the Patriots

648
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: played awesome last week too, and the Patriots had had

649
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: a great game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is.

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Speaker 4: Going to be you know, I'm not Drake is a

652
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: really poised composed The Patriot organization knows how to deal

653
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: with these type of atmospheres. The fan base, they are big,

654
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: been waiting for this since I left. It's going to

655
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: be rocking Foxborough. It's a tough place to play, It's going.

656
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: To be cold.

657
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: But this defensive Houston is ridiculous and they could put

658
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure on you. So I'm excited. I'm

659
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: excited about how what does Josh do to try to

660
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 4: keep some of the risk, you know, mitigated from from

661
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: what Drake's done this year. And Drake's played phenomenal and

662
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: he's throwing the ball so well, so accurate downfield throws

663
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: are awesome. His escapability his ability to move in the pocket,

664
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: his relatability with this teammate. There's so much to love

665
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: about him as a player. And that's why the Patriots

666
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: are in this position. So they they're very high expectations

667
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: in Foxborough. I mean they're not believe me, they don't

668
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: think that. You know, they're thinking one thing, that they're

669
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: going to go in there and kick some butt. But

670
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: Houston's going to have a lot to say about that too.

671
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Finally, I remember, and I think it's hard because you

672
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: were so good to the very end. Two years after

673
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: you retired, you would have still been a top six quarterback.

674
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: Aaron I thought had a really good year all things

675
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: considered that he lost DK Metcalf. The on line was

676
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: a work in progress, not a consistent run game, more

677
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: of a defensive culture. And I remember your retirement video.

678
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: It was emotional. You were on the beach, you were

679
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: sitting down by yourself. Did you and so Aaron's in

680
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: that space now, did you have an epiphany? Was it

681
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: a drive around the block? Did you wake up? Was

682
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: it a dream? What got you to the I can

683
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: still play, and I could still win a lot of games,

684
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: and I could still met the playoffs.

685
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it a career.

686
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment, because I think Aaron could

687
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: have a moment like that in the next three weeks.

688
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was. You know, my last season was tough.

689
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: I was going through it a lot of you know,

690
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: just a personal you know, a family issue, and it

691
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: was a challenge and it was a very you know,

692
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: it just took a lot out of me in terms of,

693
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: you know, my ability to continue to play. And I

694
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: you know, it's I had twenty three years of it,

695
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: so I didn't feel like I was missing anything retiring.

696
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: I felt like, okay, this time, I always had a goal.

697
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: Forty five was forty five years old. I wanted to

698
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: spend time with my kids. I felt like, okay, you know,

699
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: now it's time for me to be at all my

700
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: kids games. You know, they've been enough to their dad

701
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: of their dad's games. And Aaron's got his own decisions

702
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: he's got to make. He doesn't have kids. You know,

703
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: he's trying to navigate what he wants to do post career.

704
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: It's hard to give up football too. It's it's something

705
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: that we're really good at. It's something you love to do.

706
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: You love being out there with your teammates. And I

707
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: told a friend the other day, when I got older,

708
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: I almost enjoyed practice more than playing, because playing it

709
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: was almost like it was a relief to win, and

710
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: everyone who's out there.

711
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: I was like, what's another win going to do for people?

712
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's never satisfying, even for me, you know,

713
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: sometimes winning and not winning like you would expect. So

714
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: I understood that point, probably in my last season, like okay,

715
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: this is this is going to be my last time.

716
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: I try to put as much as I could into it.

717
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: I felt like I owed it to my teammates and

718
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: coaches to give them everything I had. I wish it

719
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: could have been a little bit better at the end,

720
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 4: but it was just a unique situation, a unique year

721
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: for me.

722
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: Aaron's got that too.

723
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: I mean, Aaron's got his own ways that he deals with,

724
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: you know, trying to find solutions, and you know, I

725
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: know it's it's he's done some different things in the past.

726
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's trying to.

727
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 4: Figure out because football is like a marathon the season.

728
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: Everyone loves to run the first four miles of the marathon,

729
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: and everyone loves to run the last two miles of

730
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: the marathon. But it's those middle it's those middle twenty

731
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 4: miles that are hard because kind of the shine wears

732
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: off after about a month, and now you've got to

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 4: dig deep into your preparation, into your you know, into

734
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: your body work, your treatments, you're you know, you got

735
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: to dig deep at your.

736
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: Team is over.

737
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 4: Because it's such a long season, you need to work

738
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: really hard over the course of the off season to

739
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: kind of callish your body for what it takes to

740
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: be an NFL player. So to me, it's do you

741
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: want to make the commitment year round because if you don't, well,

742
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: then it's never going to turn out well when the

743
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: season happens. In order to be a great NFL player,

744
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 4: you've got to commit and be foey in and that's

745
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: the only way your team's going to have a chance

746
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: to win, especially when you're starting quarterback.

747
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: And only Aaron can decide that for himself.

748
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Well, Niners at the Seahawks the Pacific Northwest. I mean, honestly,

749
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: it's just you can see the game, you can see

750
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: the environment. You've had a great year at Fox and

751
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: the world will be watching my friend a great job

752
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: today and I can't wait to watch