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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive

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Speaker 1: presentation of Dallas Cowboys breaking News. Football is back, and

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Speaker 1: so is the preseason as it's officially underway. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night in Canton, Ohio, the Dallas Cowboys took on

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and fell sixteen, the three to final score.

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Speaker 1: And we're here in Oxnard, California and the site of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys training Camp twenty twenty one, presented by American Airlines,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna break it all down for you here

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kyle you Oomen's alongside David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. We've got Nick Eatman and Rob Phillips coming

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Speaker 1: up a little bit later on in the show. But

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Speaker 1: you guys get the first take, the first swings at

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Speaker 1: it in terms of what you saw last in Canton.

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Speaker 1: And I'm go ahead and start with Mickey, since you

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Speaker 1: were actually on site at Tom Benson Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: Stadium yesterday, what were your first accounts of this twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one season. Well, I was reminded of preseason was

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Speaker 1: really preseason. Football's back. Everybody I was really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to where you were gonna go with. Yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 1: was the lead to my column. It's like, oh, so

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Speaker 1: that's what we missed last year, right, pretty dull game,

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Speaker 1: But you know what, both teams kind of did the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Very few starters played on either side of

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Speaker 1: kind of what you expected. So I think you have

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Speaker 1: to kind of put the thing in context. You throw

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Speaker 1: out the score, it really uh doesn't matter, I thought

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Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint. Uh, you know, Garrett Gilbert had

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Speaker 1: some nice moments. You know, the protection wasn't the best,

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Speaker 1: which was one of the worst things I think happened

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys with playing all backups after that second

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Speaker 1: to series. It reminded me why alternative football leagues don't work,

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Speaker 1: because there's not enough offensive linemen to go around, and

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Speaker 1: there's not enough to go around in the NFL on

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Speaker 1: your second and third team. And if the offensive line

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Speaker 1: can't block, the quarterback can't operate, and if the quarterback

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Speaker 1: can operate, the wide receivers can operate. So I thought

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Speaker 1: that was sort of the downfall of the Cowboys. But

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Speaker 1: on the bright side, I think Michael Parsons definitely showed

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Speaker 1: why the Cowboys selected him with the twelfth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And I think you have to remember that

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Speaker 1: he had not played a game until since late December.

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Speaker 1: I think it was December twenty eighth in the Cotton

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Speaker 1: Bowl of twenty nineteen, and that was his first real game.

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Speaker 1: And he went out there and I felt like every

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Speaker 1: play he was out there, I was writing something down

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Speaker 1: about him. So, uh he was awfully, awfully good. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then after that, defensively, it's you know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard to pick out other guys. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: at times they didn't get much of a pass rush, um,

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Speaker 1: but they did kind of stop the run a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Uh So you know, all in all, probably the absolute

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Speaker 1: best thing is is they emerged without an injury. There.

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Speaker 1: It is there, it is Nicky. That's the one. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think you use some of that thing.

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Speaker 1: Do we have to do the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's go, let's stand off. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: They got out of it healthy, um, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: like just thinking about what you just said, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: somewhere through the somewhere halfway through the third quarter, I

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Speaker 1: the rest of this? Like it was? It was just messy.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate the quarterback other than the fact,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ben d Nucci went full shortstop last night.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we hadn't We haven't been seeing that

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Speaker 1: he reverted to that because the protection was bad, or

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Speaker 1: maybe just in the adrenaline at the moment, but it

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Speaker 1: was hard to evaluate the whole picture with the offensive

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Speaker 1: I guess my predominant impressions were the guys that did

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Speaker 1: you know, the rookies had a nice showing. Jabril Cox

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins probably played six snaps, but it looked like

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Speaker 1: he looked good. And nobody's hurt. Yes, nobody's hurt. And

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna be practicing what twenty five twenty six

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Speaker 1: They may use them more in the in the scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they they wore out that third string office.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Mike was being judicious with his

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Speaker 1: better players, knowing that they need to get some work

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Speaker 1: And I'm the guy that's always worried about injuries and

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Speaker 1: the line guys. You say, Jabril Cox, you haven't had

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Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities in training camp. Get out there

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Speaker 1: forty snaps or however many he got. And it was

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Speaker 1: fun to see a lot of those guys get that

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Speaker 1: a half yard run by Rico Dowdle. He almost broke it.

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Speaker 1: He actually had a good game. He I thought he

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Speaker 1: put Rico Dowdle's name on my fifty three in pin

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Speaker 1: like a yeah, oh absolutely, I think I mean he

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Speaker 1: he's a surprisingly like he's an underrated receiver. We've seen

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Speaker 1: For doubt will he ended up with eight carries for

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Speaker 1: the other one was siwo Ilana Lua's seventeen yard reception.

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Speaker 1: that they can be versatile in the backfield. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, and sure the protection was definitely not

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Speaker 1: Out of the six most utilized players last night in

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Speaker 1: he didn't force the fumble. It wasn't some crazy amazing play,

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Speaker 1: but he did come out. They did some rotation, rotation

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Speaker 1: Like he's just continually taking steps up. And you know,

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Speaker 1: least found fundamentally wise, did not look good last night. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's not expected to be your backup quarterback. He is

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Speaker 1: a developmental player. But did anything last night, Dave change

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Speaker 1: your mind about Ben da Nucci and what he could

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Speaker 1: be moving forward. It's a preseason game, it's really only

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Speaker 1: his second real NFL action. What else do we see

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Speaker 1: from Ben da Nucci? I and I said this last night,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Twitter during a Cowboys game is not

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Speaker 1: a great place for nuance. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: know that, but or the next morning. Yeah, well really ever, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm dead serious when I say this. Remember a

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Speaker 1: few years ago how much use they got out of

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Speaker 1: Jamille Showers as a Scout team quarterback. And yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had the athleticism and obviously played in college. He is

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Speaker 1: a developmental guy. And you see, like Bend new she

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Speaker 1: has an impressive amount of athleticism. He gets outside the

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Speaker 1: pocket very easily, probably too much, although I can't blame

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Speaker 1: him too much considering the level of the protection there,

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Speaker 1: especially last night. But I mean he can make plays

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Speaker 1: on the move and get outside the pocket, whether that's

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Speaker 1: scrambling for yards or buying himself time. And I think

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Speaker 1: that makes him valuable as a Scout team quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the sense of, Okay, we're you know, we're playing a

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterback this week. We need you to give us

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Speaker 1: some looks, We need you to do this and that.

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Speaker 1: I think he has real value there and that could

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Speaker 1: give him a chance to continue to play and develop

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Speaker 1: his skill set. I hadn't seen anything going into that

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Speaker 1: game that made me think he needed to be on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three, and I definitely didn't see anything last

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Speaker 1: night that changes that opinion. So I think he could

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Speaker 1: have a future here at continuing to develop and help

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Speaker 1: them in practice as a practice squad quarterback. But it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to see anything else based on anything

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Speaker 1: we've seen to this point. There are still three more games,

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Speaker 1: but that's how I feel right now. He's competing to

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Speaker 1: be the developmental quarterback, whether that's the third one on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three or if they think he can get

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Speaker 1: through waivers to put him on the practice squad. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what it's got to be his job. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, other than being a seventh

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Speaker 1: round draft choice instead of a fourth he's sorted in

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Speaker 1: the same situation when the Cowboys drafted Dak Prescott. He

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the third guy. He was competing

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Speaker 1: to be a developmental guy that could potentially down the

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Speaker 1: road be your backup quarterback. And I think you know,

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Speaker 1: and we know how things turned out, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Denucci. That's got to be his goal, to

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Speaker 1: be the developmental quarter everybody's got one, because look, go

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Speaker 1: look at other rosters and see who the third and

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Speaker 1: fourth quarterback are on some of these other teams, and

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Speaker 1: you'll be sitting there going who round quarterbacks from small

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Speaker 1: schools that didn't have a ton of college and go

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Speaker 1: back and look in some of these I bet half

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Speaker 1: the teams in the league are looking at their backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback scratching their head right now. So they're just not

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out there. And there's definitely, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there aren't enough good quarterback X for all thirty two

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Speaker 1: starting jobs. Say that every year I do just you know,

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Speaker 1: with and you know, y'all can get into that and

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Speaker 1: weird we already have. But like there's a billion dbs

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Speaker 1: on this team fighting for roster spots. The defensive line

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Speaker 1: is a mess in terms of how many do you

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Speaker 1: keep and who and to this point, and they don't

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Speaker 1: ask for my opinion, we all know that. But to

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Speaker 1: this point, I haven't seen anything that makes me think, well,

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Speaker 1: they gotta have they gotta keep a third quarterback. They

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, plenty of NFL teams keep two

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Speaker 1: and have a guy on the practice squad. And I

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Speaker 1: just think this team has more pressing needs and we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen enough from any of the quarterbacks not named

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Speaker 1: Dak or Gilbert too that they should be worried about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because if you want to go long in the secondary, right,

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Speaker 1: you might need an extra spot. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go long at the running backs, you know, Allana Luau,

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Speaker 1: you know, want them on. There's a spot there if

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Speaker 1: you want them on the fifty three. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think at this point, unless something dramatically changes, you know,

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, uh, and and Gilbert needs to continue to

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Speaker 1: step up to be that guy ready to go. Unless

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Speaker 1: some team that drafted one of these quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: first round says, okay, he won the job. I've got

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Speaker 1: an expendable uh, you know, backup veteran quarterback who has

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Speaker 1: started games in this league. And it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what happens in Chicago. That's that's the one. That's

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Speaker 1: the one. But that's the thing is that there are

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Speaker 1: thirty other teams looking at Chicago well along with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And depending on how much money you have now and

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Speaker 1: you know what it's going to cost. My thought is, though,

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Speaker 1: if if, if you're unemployed on August thirtieth. You're probably

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Speaker 1: not going to sit there and and you know, drive

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Speaker 1: a hard bargain unless you got another team, uh that's

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Speaker 1: interested in you. Yeah. I think there'll be multiple teams

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Speaker 1: interested in whoever does not end up in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: moves forward. But like you guys said, I think there

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Speaker 1: is some competition whenever it comes to in between positions

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Speaker 1: to stay on that fifty three mantra. Because you mentioned dbs,

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Speaker 1: I think defensive lines there too. You may want to

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Speaker 1: take ten or eleven defensive linemen based off of who

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Speaker 1: you have in the middle of that interior and linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to keep five linebackers six linebackers? Maybe

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Speaker 1: because of special teams in the in the future, so

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Speaker 1: maybe I think it's undoubtedly quarterbacks probably gonna be too

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Speaker 1: deep with a practice squad player and who's going to

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Speaker 1: be on that practice squad And that's what the competition

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Speaker 1: is right now at that So I don't think they've

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Speaker 1: got eleven offensive lineman you want to keep good point

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Speaker 1: that's way too many. I don't think you would if

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Speaker 1: you had good ones right but right now they're probably

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Speaker 1: down to maybe eight, and you would like nine or

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Speaker 1: ten if you had them. But I don't know. I

539
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Speaker 1: agree with you. But if I mean, with the injury

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Speaker 1: histories of some of these offers, I know eight's not enough.

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Speaker 1: If you got to claim somebody or make a trade,

542
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Speaker 1: you do it. But and I I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody was overly impressed by what we saw from

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Speaker 1: the offensive line as that game went on. But eight

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Speaker 1: would make me incredibly nervous. See, this is why they're

546
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Speaker 1: pushing the envelope on Connor McGovern as a backup center,

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Speaker 1: because they can save a spot one of Williams. I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, McGovern Williams, Uh, you know, because they're they're

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Speaker 1: looking at from a salary cap stampoint but also a

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Speaker 1: number stampoint. Boy, if I can get that guy to

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Speaker 1: do you know two things for me? Oh, I'm in

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Speaker 1: good shape. But other than other than that McGovern right now, Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's your sixth guy and that's about it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know after that, you know, the backup tackle. Things

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Speaker 1: still not settled. I will um I will stand up

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Speaker 1: for Terrence Steele. I will too. Actually, I will stand

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Speaker 1: up for Terrence Steele. I don't I'm not saying he

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Speaker 1: was amazing and unfortune you know, hey would love to

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Speaker 1: be able to watch the all twenty two of this game.

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Speaker 1: Anybody somebody if we could get to work on that, Yes, yes, yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: but I thought I thought Terrence Steele he seemed to

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Speaker 1: hold his own. I didn't notice him getting bully and

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Speaker 1: he's been on the right side right mostly, he played

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Speaker 1: left left. Yeah, And so am I ready to say, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's my swing tackle and I feel good about it. No,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also he's worth probably keep. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to move on from him. So that's seven yeah,

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Speaker 1: and not And haven't seen anything from Josh Ball and

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Speaker 1: he's hurt right now. Didn't go to Canton last night. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Ty and Secky's first you know, outing on TV as

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Speaker 1: a cowboy was not anything to get super pumped about.

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Speaker 1: And uh and Brandon Knight kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Hasn't been playing as much tackle at this camp. We

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Speaker 1: know he has before. Yeah, I don't. I think I

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Speaker 1: got seven that I feel okay about. And then I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. And then then then they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: make a decision on Forniac if he if they think

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Speaker 1: And they did actually have him out there I think

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Speaker 1: nine at right tackle yesterday. Yeah, so he saw a

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Speaker 1: little bit of time and both. That's pretty much a

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Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys. Continuing along here on this special edition

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Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com coverage of the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: game reaction and Cowboys training camp from Oxnard, California. Special

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Speaker 1: thanks again to Mickey Spagnolan David Hellman. Now we're joined

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Speaker 1: by Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I'm

644
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans and raising this thing up a little bit,

645
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: raising it up, yeah, in terms of whatever you want,

646
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: production or we're talking physicality, whatever, short jokes. Didn't take

647
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: very long to get into it. Waiting for them to

648
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: leave too, so goodness, Yeah, you waited for him to

649
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Speaker 1: walk away. That's a cheap shot. Whatever, That's okay, four

650
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Speaker 1: hours asleep if that that's true, and there's no way,

651
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: there's no way its four hours. Yeah, I didn't realize

652
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Speaker 1: today was the day we have to mow the whole

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Speaker 1: grass and the whole place. I mean the leaf blowers

654
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: still blowing stuff around there. It ain't you had an

655
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Speaker 1: encounter with a while. Yeah, so that awesome kingdom there

656
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Speaker 1: you go get song by the Toady's So Nick, you were,

657
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: like you said, running on very short amount of sleep

658
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Speaker 1: because you were in Canton. I started with Mickey last segment.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with you. What were your thoughts

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00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: of last night? Um, you know football's back is you know,

661
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Speaker 1: I think that's what you've said to kind of start

662
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Speaker 1: the show, and that's that can't be overlooked. I mean,

663
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't wouldn't the greatest game ever. I think I've said

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Speaker 1: that it's not going into the Hall of Fame or

665
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: anything like that. Archives ESPN Classic is not a calling

666
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: for this one. But you know that's what the game

667
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: it was. You know, just see some individual efforts and

668
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: another thing that y'all touched on, no injuries. That was

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the best part you get out of the game. You

670
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Speaker 1: get evaluates some guys. We know that's not how the

671
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna look. We know that's not how the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna look. But it was good to kind

673
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Speaker 1: of get back, get some football and get some individual

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Speaker 1: evaluations on some players. Yeah. You know, Twitter is the

675
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: place where human emotions are just microwave. You know, everybody

676
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: just wants to flip out, and you know there was

677
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those comments after the game. It's one

678
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: guy tweeted like I'm done with this team's like just

679
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: hold on, tap tap the brakes. It's sloppy. It's always sloppy,

680
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: especially in the first game. Remember they've had five padded

681
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: practices five so far so and a lot of starters

682
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: did not play. There were some good things though, and

683
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: I know you guys touched on the offense, but I

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Speaker 1: will say the biggest thing that stood out to me

685
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: was you're trying to find out who your backup quarterback is. Yep,

686
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. They're not worried about the shoulder injury, but

687
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: look what happened last year. You gotta be prepared. They

688
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: don't have the money they did last year. I don't

689
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: think to spend as much as they did on in

690
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Garrett Gilbert did some things that makes you

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Speaker 1: feel better. I think now they had two field goal

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Speaker 1: attempts out of those two drives and and didn't get

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Speaker 1: what they wanted. But that was a efficient drive up

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Speaker 1: until they got inside the ten yard line. So I

695
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Speaker 1: think that one number one to me stood out when

696
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Speaker 1: you're looking at that competition. He looked like a backup

697
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Speaker 1: quarterback to me, and and that's not a bad thing.

698
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he's trying to this he's trying

699
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: to do he's not. If he was outstanding, he would

700
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: be going for a team that needed a starter. I

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: thought his throw coming out of the end zone there,

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Speaker 1: I think to Cedric Wilson, Yeah, the twenty one yard er.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really poised play. I actually

704
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Speaker 1: tweeted this. I thought he looked less, He looked more

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable than he did when he started against Pittsburgh back

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Speaker 1: in November. He felt it just looked like it was

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00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: willle jittery, get the ball out quick. Something that could

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Speaker 1: be with the offensive line that was in front of him.

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Speaker 1: You know, that might have alluded, I mean, helped with that.

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Speaker 1: But I thought the second drive we kind of got

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Speaker 1: out there, or remember it was the third one where

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00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: he threw it, you know, out of his end zone,

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Speaker 1: made a nice throw. He's got some things that I

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00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: think you can work with. You get the you know,

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Speaker 1: if he has to play better guys around him, I

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Speaker 1: think Rob I agree, I think he'd be fine. We

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about the offensive line in that

718
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Speaker 1: early segment. We didn't get a chance to talk wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: So I want to get a chance to hit on

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Speaker 1: that anybody stick out from a pass catcher standpoint, because

721
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Dalton Volts was really good early on him, and it

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: was a mix of guys late well. Nick had it

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Speaker 1: in his five plays, which I applaud you for writing

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Speaker 1: a five plays column. Yeah, that's why you didn't have

725
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: any five plays that shaped the game. The Noah Brown

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Speaker 1: catch on at one point during the day about that one,

727
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: but it's okay, No was it the first drive the

728
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Speaker 1: Noah Browns plant for the I mean that's like you said,

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Speaker 1: he's a big bodied receiver. That's a type of route

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Speaker 1: he can run and be successful at. And they hit

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Speaker 1: him right in the stride and it got him into

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Speaker 1: position to try to score. Cedric Wilson did some nice thing,

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Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson. I feel like Noah Brown and Cedric Wilson,

734
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Speaker 1: certain fans or whatever, they want to cut both guys

735
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Speaker 1: because they're making a lot of money for fourth and

736
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Speaker 1: fifth wide receivers and they drafted a wide receiver who's

737
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: got talent. But don't forget what Cedric Wilson did when

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was healthy. Yeah, before the injury. Last Seattle game,

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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and Noah Brown quietly played quite a bit

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver last year and did a pretty nice job.

741
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Speaker 1: And as he told us a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: I'm finally healthy. So I thought both those guys stood out.

743
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Sean McEwen might be the third tight end on this team. Yeah, yeah,

744
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: he just he just makes plays. A blocking tight end

745
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: who can produce in the in the receiving game as well,

746
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. That's what he was last year.

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00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: That's what he did the majority of the time. A

748
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: little bit he didn't play much period, but yeah, that

749
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Speaker 1: was part of his I mean, you know, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a receiving tight end. He played fourteen games last year,

751
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: which yeah, yeah he didn't. He didn't get a lot

752
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Speaker 1: in there. But um, another play I put in that

753
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Speaker 1: five points again, just trying to see through the game

754
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: and visualize stuff. Rico Daddle out in the flat makes

755
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 1: a catch over the middle. Nice play. That's a play

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00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: that that makes me think what Tony Pollard or Zeke

757
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: will do. Lining him out there and letting everyone go,

758
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: letting him kind of cut underneath. I could see Tony

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00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: Pollard making the catch like that. Um, and maybe you know,

760
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: obviously having a bigger play, so you know you're seeing

761
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: concepts from Kellen Moore and dan Quinn and all that,

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was kind of interesting on just

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Speaker 1: some of the things we saw earlier. You mentioned dan

764
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Quinn and getting his first reps with a revamp defense

765
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: with I guess the Cowboys defense in general. In a

766
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: game action, what did you see from the secondary? Reggie

767
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Robinson got a ton of snaps yesterday, played thirty snaps,

768
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: fifteen of them and run defense fifteen of him in

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Speaker 1: coverage straight down the middle, forced to fumble in the

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00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: game as well. What did you guys see from some

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Speaker 1: of the secondary players that we've kind of been waiting

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Speaker 1: a while to finally get our eyes on. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: get back to Reggie Robinson in a sex because there

774
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: was a play he did not make that I think

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: would really hurt him. Wasn't even on defense. But in

776
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Speaker 1: the secondary, you know, Nashan Wright stands out because he's

777
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Speaker 1: six to four and he's tall and lanky. It's easy

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Speaker 1: to watch, easy to watch. But I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought he did what he did. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: I talked to him after the game. He said he

781
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: made a rookie mistake there with the side that's a

782
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: tough draw his first game as an NFL player, was

783
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Speaker 1: running with him pretty good. He actually said, I was

784
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Speaker 1: holding him, so that's why he put his arms up

785
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: like that. He puts his he put his arms back,

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Speaker 1: and then he kind of Claypool did kind of push him,

787
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Speaker 1: but not you know, Michael Levitt would have had no

788
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: career if they if they called push off stuff like that,

789
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Speaker 1: you know. But um, you know, I thought it would

790
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Speaker 1: be still made five tackles, and it was to his

791
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: point he said, look at me. I mean, I'm a

792
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Speaker 1: I'm a tall, anky corner. No one thinks I can

793
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: I can play mix it up. So I'm glad I

794
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: got in there and tackled and show people somethings. So

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Speaker 1: I thought nichean Um was a guy that stood out.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of guys who stand out, is real mcquamu is

797
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: six four as well. Yeah, you know, I think one

798
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: of the past breakups he had in the middle of

799
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: the field was an example of his arm length and

800
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Speaker 1: just being able to close with his arms and get

801
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: his hands on the ball. That's I mean, he's a

802
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: guy that they're trying to develop at a different position.

803
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: So you got to you gotta maybe temper your expectations

804
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: in year one, but there are traits there that they like,

805
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: I want to work with, so again, Yeah, I mean, Kyle,

806
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where I guess every

807
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: draft pick on defense, seven out of eight Goldston's still

808
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: on pup all got a chance to get in there,

809
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and you saw some some things from different guys, not

810
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: only in the secondary of been in the front seven too.

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Speaker 1: I like you bringing up Israel mcquamu because he was

812
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: targeted twice yesterday, had the one PBu over the middle

813
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: where he got up and celebrated a little bit, had

814
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: some fun with that. But they really used him in

815
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Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. They used him in the

816
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: box for nineteen snaps. They had him as the free

817
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: safety outside of that for seventeen, so he saw a

818
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: lot of game action. They used him on a couple

819
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Speaker 1: of different ways. And as a guy who switched from

820
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Speaker 1: corner to safety full time now he played a little

821
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: bit of both at South Carolina, but the full time switch,

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: he looked like he was comfortable back there, and I

823
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: think that's important for a guy who's still trying to

824
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: find a roster spot. Yeah, and also, you know, let's

825
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: remember where he played, and he played in South Carolina,

826
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: where you know, jac Horne was the corner most of

827
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: that time, so they had a lot of secondary guys. Yeah,

828
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Speaker 1: and I think that his role at safety is probably

829
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna be covering tight ends, maybe playing some in the slot.

830
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: So any corner or any safety that does have corner skills,

831
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: but he looks like a safety. That's I think that

832
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: he's making the team. I mean, I think he's making

833
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: the team. I don't know if he's gonna be active.

834
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: I think I have him as well. Yeah, he's he

835
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: you got your fifty three? I do somewhere. I don't

836
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: have a lockdown here. I mean people paying people on Twitter,

837
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: they're like, did someone still make the team over him?

838
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we not finish? It's only week one,

839
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: I wrote as of August first on my list, So

840
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, for years we used to take that that

841
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: that same flip card and we can do our fifty

842
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: three and yeah, so what I do along the way, Yeah,

843
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's a veteran move for a guy

844
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: who's at his first training camp, right, yeah, just remember this,

845
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Uh yeah no, but you're right, Yeah, it's still it's

846
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: still super early on. Now you mentioned Reggie Robinson. I'm

847
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: curious to go back to what there was a punt return.

848
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers um I forgot who, Baxton Buckston

849
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: something like that went like twenty five yards thirty yards.

850
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: So I'm watching it and I see on the left

851
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 1: gunner spot is and they were punting right to left,

852
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: So the left gunner spot um was was Robinson. He

853
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: got double teamed and never got off the line like ever,

854
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: like he you know, the punt was forty five yards

855
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: down the field. He didn't get fifteen yards down the field.

856
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: He was jammed up and kind of into the bench

857
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: and the whole left side of the guy took it

858
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to be there and he didn't even

859
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: make the tackle. He was still getting blocked. I think

860
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Nice Wonder either had to make the play or something.

861
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, you know, that's a problem in coverage if

862
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: that's happening right when. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, that's

863
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: never it's never good. Yeah, and that wasn't his you know,

864
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: worst night. Hey, can we just say the guy's a

865
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: the guy's a punter, I mean he's a punter. Oh yeah,

866
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: he's a punter and punch of the punters a better

867
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: ring is the ki Yeah, I mean doesn't work well.

868
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: They're they're trying to give you know, Greg's airline is

869
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: not ready to go with the back surgery. He's coming

870
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: off of that. Bryan Anger, I guess, is the punter

871
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: week one because they're they're resting him, getting him to

872
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: the to the season, I guess. But can you let

873
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Nice Wonder practice some kicks in practice? I mean that

874
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. We've all said it. Like, I

875
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: think he's had three attempts, three attempts, and he's done

876
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: like ghost kicks the rest of the time. And Mickey

877
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: asked Mike about it, and he said, that's just part

878
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: of the install It's they we were talking about this

879
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: on Tom Cowboy the other day. It used to be

880
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: an event for us with our notepads charting Dan Bailey

881
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: every freaking day in practice. Did it last year? Yeah?

882
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: And and and they just haven't kicked in this camp

883
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So but but again he's he's yeah,

884
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: but he's not a kicker, You're right, An, he's a punter,

885
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: and and and I think he's a good one. And

886
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: I just don't understand really why you have to why

887
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: you the limit anger? And he's only played he's played

888
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: four team on I think this is fourth team, so

889
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: he's been a capt will I think a couple of times.

890
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. I don't know why

891
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: we're limiting his snaps. Yeah, I guess you would call

892
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: it anger management. You would call it. That's that would

893
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: be a headline. That's what you would call it. It's

894
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: pretty good anger. Have we said that one? No, that's

895
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: my role call pretty darn four camp. I don't read that.

896
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, interesting. It's a great site. It's a

897
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: great website. It is cowboys dot com. Everybody. If you're

898
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: not on it, then jump on the bandwagon. We did

899
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: have anger management. Yeah, I stole that from you, Rom

900
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: good movie. That's to think William's over here. Nod and

901
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: William will give you his thumbs up approval on headlines. Yeah, good,

902
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: headline bad bad? Yeah, he'll tell us about the one

903
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: you told me for two days you were so happy

904
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: about that with oh because Lie Collins had, yeah, had

905
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: lost a little weight, And I said, lean on me. Boy,

906
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: you must have loved that movie, William. It's a great movie.

907
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: It's a good top three, top three, Uh, anybody else

908
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: on Special Teams stick out to you yesterday, good order

909
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: about the store, our best. I mean overall Special Teams

910
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: was rough yeah, to say the least. I mean, if

911
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: you had one word to describe it, it it would be roughly.

912
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: The whole game, which probably it always is. Special Teams

913
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: is a you're a double a, you know manager in

914
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: baseball double a. I mean, if your guys are really

915
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: any good, they get plucked and go somewhere else. So

916
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: every time you have to kind of just you know,

917
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: make you know, lemonade. It really what you have to do.

918
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: And so you know in the first game, you know

919
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be great quality, and never really any

920
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: of the preseason games I think every year, I remember

921
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: we would do stories like what's wrong with the Special Teams?

922
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: That's because, you know, because they're trying some stuff out.

923
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: I was thinking of what Joe D. Camillis used to

924
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: call the players you know that we're playing out there,

925
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: that it weren't necessarily going to make the team, you

926
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: just got to fill it fill it up. Speaking of

927
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Joe D. Camilisi should be come out here tomorrow with

928
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: his Rams. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, anybody else from

929
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: the Rams that we know, I think anybody from the

930
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys used to be at the Rams beside the whole

931
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: special team, say like McQuaid and Foster everybody. Yeah, yeah,

932
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: you're you're exactly right. Um. Let's go back to defense

933
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: a little bit and talk about that defensive line. Looked

934
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: like there was some good push up front. I thought, now,

935
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: there weren't any big time sacks and there really wasn't

936
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: a huge splash play from the defensive line. But I

937
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: thought Quentin Bohannah had a nice day. Yeah, I thought

938
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: to Rob Bashum and limited snaps, Carlos Watkinsosa, Diggy Zoo,

939
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: what did you guys see? Rob will start with you

940
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. You just named both guys. I

941
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: was gonna name, but Quintin Bohanna. He was on my

942
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: two to watch that we had before the game, just

943
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: because he watched him out here and he's three hundred

944
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds but he doesn't move like it. And

945
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: they drafted him mainly to be space eater in the

946
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: middle help stop the run. But you're seeing what he

947
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: can do in terms of movement off the snap. What

948
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: makes you think, well, maybe he can. He can give

949
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: him some pass rush inside as well. And dan Quinn's

950
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: scheme one, it's kind of like Rod Marinelli Nick. They

951
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: want to get up the field, yea, so maybe he

952
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: can help in that regard. And I thought Osa had

953
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: a couple of nice rushes too that helped force quick

954
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: throws and helped him get off the field defensively. Did

955
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: um in your first thirty minutes, did any of those

956
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: guys talk about Mica Parsons. We did. You talked about him,

957
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and we did talk about Mica. I felt like Mickey

958
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: was you know, I think it was what we let

959
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: off with. Of course, Mickey just got a column, right.

960
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I sat next to Mickey on the plane and he

961
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: was he was hammering away on the on the Mica

962
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Parsons and that was his his guy going into the draft,

963
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: and he was the one happy guy. But see, yeah,

964
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: he wants to say it's just him. No, but the

965
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys hadn't rated higher than both corners they liked, right.

966
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't believe and on our show, well, I don't

967
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: believe that. I do not believe that even a little bit.

968
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I know they say that, but I don't believe. I

969
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: think it's true. I believe it. I believe I don't

970
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: think I believe it. Now, what were they gonna do

971
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: If a Corner was sitting there, they probably would they

972
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: were still gonna take it. You don't always, you know,

973
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: That's why you don't always stick to your board. I mean, yeah,

974
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: they they have admitted that they were gonna take Corner.

975
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: I do believe he was the highest rated. But then again,

976
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna take him, then then what does

977
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: it matter. We're not gonna go to the board now.

978
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I just I'm sure they've said it. When we we'll

979
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: say it again. Maybe Parsons is just a guy that

980
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: that you know, the ball, the ball found him and

981
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: this one. But he's typically the guy that that that

982
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: finds it. Um, he's he's just gonna be fun to

983
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: watch it, you know. Yeah, And I think I think

984
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: we can't discredit I had. I actually talked to Stephen

985
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: Jones a little bit before the game and we were

986
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: talking about about Parsons. He said, just the fact that

987
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: he played all these spots. Not all rookies can actually

988
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: handle the workload of what you know, what this guy

989
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: does at this spot, what he does here, it's one

990
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: thing to line him up all over the field, but

991
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: to be able to do it and learn the system

992
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: for all those spots is amazing. That's a great point

993
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: because as an athlete, you look at Michael Parsons you

994
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: say he's gonna fit in wherever you put him. But

995
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, especially after not playing a football

996
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: game for over a year and a half, then you

997
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: turn up and you're in training camp and you go, Okay,

998
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: here's three different spots we want you to try and

999
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: play at, do three hundred different things with it, and

1000
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: he's successful. I asked Mike McCarthy that the first week

1001
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: out here because it kind of reminded me. I was

1002
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: trying to think of something similar, and maybe Byron Jones

1003
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. You know, they had him working at

1004
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: like every secondary position point yea, And the question becomes like,

1005
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: how much is too full of plate? Early and Mike said,

1006
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: maybe early on, a little bit too much on his plate.

1007
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn basically says, I'm gonna keep putting stuff on

1008
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: his plate because he's shown he can handle it. And

1009
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: if you notice between series, they're always talking and I

1010
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's been too big for him. And we

1011
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: did see him again in some different spots. Dave and

1012
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: I talked about it. On that first series, he could

1013
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: have had a tackle for loss if you'd taken maybe

1014
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a little bit different angle. Talking about on the run

1015
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: play out right, Yes, I guess it was Steeler's left.

1016
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: He was going out right, yeah, intensively. Yeah, that's the one. Obviously,

1017
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: the fumble recovery. The in series he had blitz up

1018
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: the middle that uh that that forced a quick throw,

1019
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: also a tackle. I think he stopped Naji Harris for

1020
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: a one yard game. He was just productive. He's just

1021
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: around the ball, and it is exciting because you kind

1022
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: of don't know where he's gonna be any given snap.

1023
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: Right if we're gonna take it to the next level

1024
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: of linebackers, Um, well I did. I also think Layton

1025
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: Vanderish I thought it looked pretty good out there too.

1026
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: Definitely look good. Um, you know, he only had five snaps,

1027
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: but he looked good in those five. I thought, Yeah,

1028
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: I thought he played well. Luke Gifford starting to get

1029
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: back into the buddy what he showed he definitely is

1030
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and you know, we we just put Jabrol Cox just

1031
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: over him and and that's not the case at all,

1032
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: like Gifford, you know, and that Cox is gonna he's

1033
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: he's still gonna work his way in there. Did he

1034
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: made a specially he made the only specialty tackle right.

1035
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: He had five tackles on defense as well. Who Luke?

1036
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, who Who's who's the new corner?

1037
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: Um Brown? Yeah? Two tackles for loss. He's pretty good.

1038
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: We haven't really seen a whole lot. I was like,

1039
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: where I'm missed that one? That That was the thing

1040
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: is we were looking at him in practice a training

1041
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: camp and you didn't get to see a whole lot

1042
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: of brown now and then he comes out and he

1043
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: makes two pacles for loss and it's like, oh, okay,

1044
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: there you go. Kennedy was there too. He made a

1045
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: couple of good plays. I think a zur Kamara off

1046
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the edge. He had three pressures yesterday was probably the

1047
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: closest to getting a sack. He had two hits. Is

1048
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: maybe the leader in training camp of guys we haven't

1049
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: talked about. I would agree with that. There's always you

1050
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: look at the roster and you're like, oh, he's there

1051
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: and so and another guy that actually had had a

1052
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: nice catch. I believe Aaron Parker like and then we

1053
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: don't really talk about Aaron Parker. I talk about Aaron

1054
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: Parker a lot good he was. That was That was

1055
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: me like puffing up a little bit. I liked him

1056
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: in training camp last year. And I think if he

1057
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: would have had a if he would have had a

1058
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: preseason a year ago, I think Parker would have shown

1059
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: out yind him he was playing well in preseason, I

1060
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: mean training Yeah, for sure. It just comes down to

1061
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: a numbers thing. I mean, how many spots are open

1062
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, linebacker with Kamara uh cornerback for Kyron Brown.

1063
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Just there just aren't spots. Now there's more practice wat

1064
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: spots when you're evaluating receiver Malik Turner good or bad?

1065
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: Both both? Right, had you had a good day led

1066
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: the team in receiving, had forty seven yards on five receptions,

1067
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: and then he had had a big turn Yeah, I

1068
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: got to hang onto the ball on the best play

1069
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: he had toost play he had and he turns around

1070
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: through that rush Cooper rush. Yeah, way more good than

1071
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: bad if you factor in everything out here. But as

1072
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: we talked about from league, Turner, although not the game,

1073
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: that's true, No, yeah exactly, But as we've talked about

1074
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys, Like, how many times have we talked

1075
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: about receivers in offseason workouts, training camp? Get to the

1076
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: games and it can be a different story. Yeah, so

1077
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: you got to be able to translate it over these

1078
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: next three games, because again, I don't know if there's

1079
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: spots open at wide receiver. There might be a sixth

1080
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: spot open, but that might be it. Yeah, sorry, what

1081
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: was that you need? I am? I am a little bit.

1082
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: We all are, I mean, I mean, I'm sure you guys. Yeah,

1083
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: there's the reason I went and grabbed it while you know,

1084
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: I was on the plane and I was about to

1085
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: go to sleep and they had a mute a movie

1086
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: playing and Creed too, which is one of the favorite

1087
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: was Yeah, Creed, Creed, the original Creed better than anything

1088
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: in the Rocky series my opinion. Okay, let me see,

1089
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: you're just looking for excuse to stop the show. That's

1090
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: a strong take. It's a strong takes, a strong in accurate. No,

1091
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: it's able discussion. It's good, it's good, it's up. I mean,

1092
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: it's up in there. It's up there for sure. I

1093
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: don't know Rockies. I don't know even they of them.

1094
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: Kyle I have young but I don't think I've watched

1095
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: Creed too. But I've watched Creed and you were the

1096
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: rest of the Rockies. You were minus twenty five. Yeah, Rocky,

1097
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: the original Rocky. It's exactly right. But it's great. You

1098
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: can't watch out. You can't watch Creed two if you

1099
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: don't see all the Rockies because there's there's a lot

1100
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: of stuff, lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the

1101
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: Marvel movies. They all kind of intertwined. You got to

1102
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: see them all in a specific order and whatnot. Yeah,

1103
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: to really get it zero there. Yeah, I'm sorry, you

1104
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: can take that there. My next My next Marvel movie

1105
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: will be the first first ever. I don't know how

1106
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: you've gotten through that pretty well. Actually, just keep watching

1107
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: the Rockies, just keep going back to it. We talked

1108
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about safety, and of course that's been

1109
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: a topic of conversation throughout training camp. And we only

1110
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left. But what did you

1111
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: guys see in the rotation at safety yesterday that stuck

1112
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: out to you outside of maybe what Mukuamu did and

1113
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: back behind that defense, it was just I mean limited

1114
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: snaps for Casey, right right, He was out there for

1115
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: was it one series? Six snaps to six snaps? It's

1116
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: just such a small Sam Wilson was on a ball

1117
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: cap right, Yes, I believed Curse started opposite or next two. Yeah,

1118
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Curse played the most out of at least those initials.

1119
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, never mind. Cursonally had six naps as well.

1120
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: I think that's a throwaway game for safe safety. I mean,

1121
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Millie Cooker's gonna eventually get into into this mix because

1122
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna play more. Obviously, donaltor Wilson. I mean the Steelers,

1123
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers receivers and tight ends would probably feel it'd

1124
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: be good about that. They'd be happy that he went

1125
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: out there because he's gonna hit. Yeah, I mean he

1126
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really care. He's just gonna go out there and hit.

1127
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: And so no, I think, you know, we'll see what

1128
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: happens in Arizona. I'm a little curious about Arizona. We've

1129
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: done this once before where we have a long training

1130
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: camp and you go to Arizona. It was not so good.

1131
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: It was not good out there. You know, when when

1132
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: you know when the end is near and you know

1133
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: getting back home and all that, you got this one

1134
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: more stop to make. It's never really a good game there. Well,

1135
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this on our local TV

1136
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: hit this morning with Kyle that you know the Rams

1137
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: coming in. I don't know how much you guys talked

1138
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: about it at the first segment, but that is like

1139
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: a preseason game and a half these last three days here,

1140
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean between Steelers and now Rams. Mike is he's

1141
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: balancing his playing time in the Steeler game, he says,

1142
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: based off of what's coming on Saturday. Now, look, you're

1143
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: never going to play most of your starters in the

1144
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: preseason opener Hall of Fame game. But he's looking at

1145
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: this like it's a competitive practice coming up here, not

1146
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: a live practice, but you know, another team coming in

1147
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: and get some good situational work coming in. But defensively, yeah,

1148
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: I think in the secondary there weren't any busts from

1149
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: the safeties that I saw. That's good communication. You're still

1150
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: looking for that communication to be better with Dan Quinn

1151
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: and I think it has been out here for the

1152
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: most part. And then hey, run defense two point five

1153
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: yards Kerry for the Steelers. That's good, that's progress. And

1154
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: again it's not all the starters in here for the

1155
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. But you know, for a Steelers team that

1156
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: has struggled last year to run the ball, that continued

1157
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: in this game anyway. And I know you didn't get

1158
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: a chance to hear it, Nick, because you were probably

1159
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: on the field doing doing your pregame hits. But Troy

1160
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: and Joe talked about it a little bit when it

1161
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: came to the Steelers. Their number one knock last year

1162
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: as a team was not being able to run the football.

1163
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: They had dressed dressed that in the first round last

1164
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: year with Naja Harris and then twenty fourth overall pick,

1165
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: and they wanted to establish the run early. You could

1166
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: see that the whole first half was them trying to

1167
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: establish the run, and the Cowboys held them to seventy

1168
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: six total yards over all four quarters. In terms of

1169
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: run defense. Yeah, and you shut them out in the

1170
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: first half. I think that is something positive. Yes, the

1171
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: final score was sixteen to three, throw that out the window.

1172
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: That first half was impressive to me in terms of

1173
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: the improvements they've made in the run deep. You know,

1174
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was kind of running a little bit early there,

1175
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: and I thought the Cowboys got fortunate with that botched

1176
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: snap snap and so they were kind of moving it there. Yeah,

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00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think we'll see a ben

1178
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: but don't break defense. And I think that's that's not

1179
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: what we saw last year. We just saw just give

1180
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: up sixty yard passes and eighty yards passes over the

1181
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: top and five right. But you know, depends on where

1182
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: you're bending. If you're bending in a little bit of receivers,

1183
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: that's fine. If they are running the ball four or

1184
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: five six yards, that's not a good thing. But no,

1185
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: I think they got to fix some things up. But um,

1186
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, and nobody nobody's throwing you know, the the

1187
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: swirl ice creams with the with the sprinkles and stuff

1188
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it's vanilla vanilla all the way

1189
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: and just boring you know stuff out there. No tooty

1190
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: fruity until later on. You're making me hungry lunch. Yeah, absolutely,

1191
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Hot California son? Uh? Really quickly and

1192
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: ten words or lass? What are you looking for tomorrow?

1193
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: In the rams practice? Try not to get into a

1194
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: big fight. And he's had some unproductive football out there. Okay,

1195
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: interior offensive line against Aaron Donald. If we see Aaron Donald,

1196
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: I hope we do. I think we will. I think

1197
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: that would be really fun. Tyler Bottish, Connor Williams, maybe

1198
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, depending on how much teamwork they give him.

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: That'd be fun. Let's go. Yeah, it's gonna be a

1200
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: lot of fun matchups. Jalen Ramsey coming to town, Cooper Cup,

1201
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Matthew Stafford, lots of stars coming and converging

1202
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: on Oxnard, California tomorrow. Nick Eatman Rob Phillips will both

1203
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: be on that coverage tomorrow. I'll be on there as well,

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Speaker 1: starting off five pm Central Time at three pm Pacific

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Speaker 1: time here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and also on

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Speaker 1: t x A twenty one. Want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us here over the last hour breaking down

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game. Will be back throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: More training camp coming from Oxnard, California, presented by an

1210
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Speaker 1: American Airlines. But for Rob and Nick, I'm Kyle saying

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Speaker 1: so long from Oxnard. We'll see an next time. This

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