1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankowitz. Welcome in to another 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: episode of The Colt Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. Really 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: excited for today's episode. I had a chance to sit 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: down with Colts owner and vice chair Kaylan Jackson, and 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about girls flag football and the 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: effort the Colts are putting behind growing this sport in 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: our state and making it a varsity sport sanctioned by 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the IHSAA. We also talked a little bit about mental 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: health awareness and kicking the stigma. It is Mental Health 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Awareness Month here in May, so excited to get to that. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Before we do, though, just a little bit of background 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: because something cool happened in between when I sat down 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: with Kaylin for this interview and when we're releasing this 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: episode on May eighth, So just eat a little bit 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: more background on this. So, the Colts since early this 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: year have been promoting the Road to one hundred, which 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: is a push I get one hundred schools high schools 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: in Indiana to commit to having a girls flag football team, 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: so that with that effort, if you get to one 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: hundred schools, then the IHSAA will consider girls flag for 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: being adopted as a varsity sport. So that's a big 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: deal to be fully sanctioned by the IHSAA. Right, The 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Cults have put ten thousand dollars behind every one of 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: these schools that signs up are the first one hundred 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: schools to have a girls flag team to support equipment, uniforms, training, 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: coaching stipends. So the Colts are committing up to a 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: million dollars for this effort. And you'll see in my 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: conversation with Kaitlin why it's so important and really why 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: it's authentic to the Colts to promote girls' flag in 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: this state. It's really neat, but all right, So the 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: exciting things that happen, they actually happen this week. So 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: on Monday, the Colts announced that eight more schools have 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: committed to fielding a girl's flag team in twenty twenty five. 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: That brings the number to sixty five schools. That's a 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: really big deal, lot of momentum there. And then also 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: this week, the IHSAA announced that they are now designating 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: girls high school flag football as a as an emerging sport, 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: which allows a lot more pathways for growth and development 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: of girls flag across our state. So one other thing 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to here. I 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: did get a message. This is from Clayton Clifford. He 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: dm me on Instagram after watching last week's show and 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to give me a shout out to Hunter Clark, 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: who is the head coach at East Noble High School 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: of the East Noble Knights girls flag football team. Hunter 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: is a longtime Colts fan, die hard Colts fan, and 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of work to get girls flag 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: up and running at East Noble. Just one of the 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: many people in this state who have really taken the 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: lead on this, you know, and really built the momentum 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: of this sport in the state. So shout out to Hunter. 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Shout out to assistant coach Katie David for all the 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: great work you two are doing and pushing the sport forward. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to my conversation with Colts owner 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: and vice chair Kayln Jackson here on the Colt Show. 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: It is my pleasure to be joined here on the 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Cult Show by Colts owner and vice chair Kaylin Jackson. 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit about mental health 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Awareness month later. It is May, obviously a big month 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: for mental health awareness, and kicking the stigma. But I 61 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about girls Flag because this has been 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: a big initiative for the Colts for the last six seven, 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: eight nine months now of getting girls Flag sanctioned in 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. So before we get into the 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: efforts and the road to one hundred and all the 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: things the Colts have done to promote Girls' Flag, why 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: is it important for girls Flag to grow within this state? 68 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think there are so many reasons. I mean, 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: first of all, I think when you look at flag 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: in general, like not just Girls' Flag, it's a different 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: way to connect with our game. I think it is 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: something that's a little bit more accessible. It's less like 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: in some ways, and I know in some cases for 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: younger kids, it's a better way to start and maybe 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: a way that parents might be more comfortable to start 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: that way. But I think when it comes to looking 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: at the female element, for so many years, I mean 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: when I was growing up, there were a lot less 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: ways to connect with our amazing game of football. And 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: I think there's always been an interest in a fandom 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: and a love of football from females and young girls, 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: but the opportunities just weren't as plentiful and so this 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: is a really great way to do that, and I 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: think what that means is not just them playing the 85 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: game of football, but leading them into more opportunities within sport. 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: There's so many studies, including one really recently about how 87 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, young girls or women who play sports are 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: more likely to be in a leadership or an executive 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: role within their career. So there's even scientific evidence behind that. 90 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: And so to be able to give that opportunity to girls, 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: to you know, really encourage them in that way beyond 92 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: the sport is also really important. 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I think kind of along those lines too. Just the 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: Colts to me, are a really good example of what 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: women can do in football. Obviously there's you and your 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: sisters at the ownership level, but you know you have 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: you know Malany Low, who's going to be on this 98 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: podcast next week. Our director of football operations, you have 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Iszidaz the Harriet or Say fellow who's worked now for 100 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years of our special teams Like these 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: are big jobs within a football team, and I see 102 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Girls Flag as an opportunity to get more women involved 103 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: in football on a like a larger scale. Do you 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: think that that's fair to say for it. 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I think again it's like any way 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: to connect with the game. So maybe there are some 107 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: girls that you know, because like I said, there's always 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: been girls interested girls, you know, maybe back when I 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: was younger, having their dads drag them to the game 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: and then they ended up falling in love with it. 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: But this is an opportunity for even if their dad's 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: not a fan or you know, it hadn't been introduced 113 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: to them, that there are these opportunities and like you said, 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: beyond the field, and you know, as I mentioned, growing up, 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: the opportunities to connect with the game weren't as plentiful, 116 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: but also the opportunities within our building weren't as plentiful, 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: especially in the locker room and on that side of 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: the building. In football, there just weren't you know, I 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: didn't see when I was in you know, luckily enough 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: to be in the locker room when I was young 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: with my dad. I didn't see female trainers. I didn't 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: see female doctors. I didn't see female coaches or anything, scouts, 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, you name it. And so for me it's 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: a really cool moment, you know, at these last ten 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: years to see that escalation within our own building, but 126 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: across the league and seeing that continue and really to 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: see the investment not just from us, but you know, 128 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: from the league. We were definitely inspired by the league 129 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: and their investment in Girls' Flag and really helping us 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: see the data behind why it's important not just for 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: the game of football to thrive, but for for females 132 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: to thrive, especially within our industry, and so to be 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: able to kind of, you know, pun intend to take 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: that flag and run with it has been an honor 135 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: and I think it's something that me and my sisters 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: have always looked at in the sense that how can 137 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: we be representations for young girls and women? How can 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: we make them proud? Are we doing enough? And I 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: think that for a long time, I don't know if 140 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: the answer was yes, But I do think that it 141 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: is now and we're going to continue to build on 142 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: those efforts and not stop any time soon. But this 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: has just been such an exciting time for Girls' Flag, 144 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: and especially within our state. I think a lot of 145 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: states don't have as long of a road to get 146 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: to a sanctioned level. You know, they may not have 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: to have one hundred teams, They may only need twelve 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: or they may not need any which is something I 149 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: learned through this process. And as much as that's been 150 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: a hurdle, you know, to get to that many, that's 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: a lot and it's a long road. But at the 152 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: same time, I think it's such a blessing disguise, if 153 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you will, because it enables us to ensure that this 154 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: has sustainability and that this is, you know, something that's 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: not just going to be for this year the year 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: gets sanctioned, It's going to continue on and there's going 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: to be investment from our state and from the schools 158 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: that choose to join us in this really exciting trail 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: blazing time for a girls' flag. 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: So explain the road to one hundred because so right 161 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: now as we're taping this, we're taping this in April. 162 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully by the time this is released in May, there 163 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: will be more schools on board. But the road to 164 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: one hundred is an effort to get one hundred schools. 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: So the IHSAA will consider sanctioning girls flag as a 166 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: varsity sport. But there's more to it. There's an investment 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: made by your family and the colts in Hey, if 168 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: you sign up to you know, commit to having a 169 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: girl's flag program, we will financially support those efforts. That 170 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: part of it seems to be a really important piece 171 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: in terms of getting such a wide breadth of schools 172 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: on board. 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: It is, and it's something that I think we wanted 174 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: people to understand that we don't want you to just 175 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: come on alongside us, like we want to come alongside 176 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: you and help you. You know, this is not this 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: is something that we know is it's a big lift. 178 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: A lot of schools these days. They have a lot 179 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: of sports, they have a lot of responsibility, they have 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: small staffs, and there's not a lot of funding. And 181 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: so we through research realized, you know, if we're saying 182 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: we believe in this and like we really need to put, 183 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: you know, our money where our mouth is and show 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: the support in that way. But honestly, through this process 185 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: we've learned a lot because it's not just money that 186 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: they need. They need support, They might need more field time, 187 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: they might need the space, and so trying to work 188 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: with each individual school on their specific needs is really 189 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: also a huge part of this. But yes, we with 190 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: the Road to one hundred campaign, we committed a million 191 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: dollars so Basically what that allows is for each school 192 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: that signs on for this campaign, that would get ten 193 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: thousand dollars you know, up to anyway to support their 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: flag program. And we are at fifty eight schools, which 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: is super exciting. Our staff has worked tirelessly to get 196 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: to that number. I mean that has not been easy, 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: but they you can see the love in it and 198 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: you can see the passion in it. And when we 199 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: unveiled the really neat display at the stadium now for girls' Flag, 200 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: So if anyone's in the stadium, please go check it 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: out because it's really really a beautiful display. And that 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: day when I was there for the unveiling, getting to 203 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: see you know, girls' flag teams coming out with their parents, 204 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: with their coaches and seeing it and seeing the look 205 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: on their faces and the excitement they had, and talking 206 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: to them afterwards, and talking to their parents and seeing 207 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, this drive and passion that they have. It 208 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: was that was the best part, you know, seeing how 209 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: this is impacting real lives and hearing one of the 210 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: girls said, so, for example, there's only one college right 211 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: now who's offering scholarships for girls' flag, but yeah, Saint 212 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: Francis but so hopefully we'll get to higher numbers sooner. 213 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: But she said, I'm going to get that scholarship. She 214 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna, you know, and if it's not them, 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: hopefully by the time I graduate, there's gonna be more 216 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: than just those that I'm gonna be able to get. 217 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: So it's really, you know, it's about so much. It's 218 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: about what they learned from the game. It's about you know, 219 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: being active and being fit and learning leadership skills, learning teamwork. 220 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: But it's also showing them they can dream for something 221 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: bigger and seeing how not only that they're the trailblazers, 222 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: you know. I was telling them, like, you're you guys 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: are gonna get to say you were the first. You 224 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: were the first ones to make this a sanctioned sport 225 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: in your state. You were the first ones to get 226 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: that scholarship at the school the first year they offered it. 227 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: And to be able to feel like they're leaving like 228 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: a legacy behind, I think was really cool to see. 229 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: And you saw that it was more than just the game, 230 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: you know, you saw it so much more than that 231 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: for them. 232 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: I talked to TJ. Williams, who's the head coach at 233 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Saint Francis for Girls Flag about offering those scholarships, and 234 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: it's so cool to see the like an additional path 235 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: to college exist through Girls' Flag. And something he really, 236 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, emphasized to me is that this is a 237 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: wave that's it's not just in Indiana, but it's across 238 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: the country, and you don't want to be caught behind 239 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: the wave. And I think to your point, these girls 240 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: who are pushing it forward in our state, leaving that 241 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: legacy and being on the front of that wave is 242 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a really impactful thing. And I hope more schools get 243 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: on board with it and they they say, hey, this 244 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: is definitely worth it. I mean, you said, right now 245 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: we're at fifty eight. That means it got forty two 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: to go. Hopefully again by the time this pod comes out, 247 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: it'll be a little less than that. But that path 248 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: just seems so like such a such an incredible opportunity. 249 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: And I know I'm kind of giving the sales pitch 250 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: to you. You don't need the sales pitch at all here, 251 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: but you know, for our listeners and our viewers like it. 252 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: It really is something that I've kind of grown passionate about. 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: I've learned about it. And the other part too that 254 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I think is really cool is that these girls are 255 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: blazing the trail but the Colts being behind them, like 256 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: we're the biggest football brand in this state, and to 257 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: have that push from the Colts, like okay, well if 258 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: the Colts are behind it, you know, I hope that 259 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: only just continues to keep pushing this thing. 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: For me, yeah, well, I hope it shows you know, 261 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: support and belief in them, and that people want to 262 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: people want to support those, We want to support you 263 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: as a woman, you know what I mean. My kids 264 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: play at First Baptist and I was there the other 265 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: day and it was a really cool opportunity for me 266 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: to see the first year that their flag kits have 267 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Colts logos on them, and it was a really cool thing. 268 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: As I was listening to, one of the coaches talked 269 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: to one of his boys and he said, why are 270 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: we all having Colts horshoes on him? Why aren't they 271 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: the different teams And he said, well, because the Colts 272 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: support us, and so we wear it. We all wear it. 273 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: But for me, it was so cooled over here that conversation, 274 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: because that is what it's about. We support you. We 275 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: support you in this journey, We support you in this effort, 276 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: We support you in this passion that you have for 277 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: this game and for the opportunities that it could lead to. 278 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: And so I hope that it really does represent more 279 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: than just you know, that ten thousand dollars gift to 280 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: the school to get it going, But really it's going 281 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: to be a long term commitment. How can we help 282 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: you for as you move through this year? How can 283 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: what else do you need? What are we missing? What 284 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: can we not see because we're not, you know, a 285 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: high school ad. You know, we aren't doing that as 286 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: our job every day. So what are we missing? 287 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: You know? 288 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: And so that's been a huge help. And that's why 289 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: it's not just us, and it's not just our staff. 290 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: It's these these ads and these coaches that believe in 291 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: it too, that are coming alongside us, that that really 292 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: gets done. Like anything, we can't do anything that we 293 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: do that's done well alone. And this is, you know, 294 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: another perfect example of that. 295 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that's that's another really good point to make 296 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: is that if and when we get to one hundred 297 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: schools and the IHSAA sanctions it, the cult support isn't 298 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: going to just drop off. No, it's like you said, 299 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: a long lasting relationship exactly. 300 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: And I think that's, you know, kind of the point 301 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: of continuing to talk about it and why it matters. 302 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: You'll get the same example. But not boys flag girls flag. 303 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, you're seeing more girls instead of it being 304 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: a co ed team where there's one girl, like my 305 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: daughter's first year on her flag team, it's morphing into 306 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: all girls, or at least half and half. And I 307 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: think having enough interest where they can have their own 308 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: and I think, like I said, just having that equal 309 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: opportunity too for them to be having interest off the field, 310 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: and what does that mean? And like what where you know, 311 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: I love football? If I don't play flag in college 312 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: or past high school, where can I take this love 313 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: in this passion? There's look at all these other opportunities 314 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: there are, whether you know, like we listed all of them, 315 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: from coaching to scouting to being in some kind of 316 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: doctor role or even in our you know, our business side. 317 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: And I think that having that brought to the forefront 318 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: and put in front of young girls is super important. 319 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: Having that exposure. 320 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: I think the last thing on this that I just 321 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: I've felt through it is that this initiative is very 322 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: authentic to the cults. It's not oh yeah, we just 323 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: decided we're going to support girls flag. It's like this 324 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: is something that because of you know, yourself and Carly 325 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: and Casey leading this organization, that it is authentic. That 326 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: it's not just hey, we're supporting girls' flag. It's that 327 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: we have women on our sidelines in coaching roles, we 328 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: have women athletic trainers, we have you know, women in 329 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: our football operations department, women, and like you said, in 330 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: our business side. So it's not like I think the 331 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: authenticity of it, I think is something that really helps 332 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,119 Speaker 1: in terms of driving home the importance of this initiative. 333 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, anything like anything that's done well, it's coming 334 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: from a genuine place. And that's definitely the case for this. 335 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: I think of you know, the NFL has put on 336 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: a women's forum the last few years, and each year 337 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: it's putting giving women the opportunity to be placed into 338 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: two roles and kind of fostering those that growth from 339 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: college into the league. And I've participated, Carly's been there 340 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: in person every year, interviewed women, talk to women, you know, 341 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: what are the interests and so many of them will 342 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: say have such a broad interest, like they just want 343 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: to get their foot in the door, and they really 344 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: understand that sometimes that's what it takes. And I think 345 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: just seeing the passion behind them and knowing that we're 346 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: in a position to help, you know, really makes us 347 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: invest in things like this. 348 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about mental health and Mental Health Awareness month. 349 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: This is you know, kicking the stigmas. Now been around 350 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: for five years? Is that right? 351 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Started in twenty twenty. 352 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so five years into this initiative of growing you know, 353 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: mental health awareness research and you know development, Where where 354 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: has it kind of motivated you to continue going? Seeing 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: the success that this has had over five years improving 356 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: the mental health of Hoosier is not you know or 357 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: who's your's in our state and then obviously across the country. 358 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, first, I can't believe it's been five years. 359 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: If kind of one of those things where it feels 360 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: like it was just yesterday, and it also feels like 361 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: it's always been around. I think there's just I could 362 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: talk to you for an hour of the things that 363 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: we're proud of in this initiative, and but also I 364 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: think a lot of it was super surprising in a 365 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: way like it took us aback how impactful this has 366 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: been and how many people have reached out and how 367 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 2: many connections we've made and how many people we've impacted. 368 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: And I'm sure we'll never know the full number, but 369 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: I don't need to know that, you know, to know 370 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: that it's made a difference in people's lives. But I 371 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: would say, you know, people ask me all the time, 372 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: what's the thing you're most proud of, And that's such 373 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: a hard question because there's so many things. But I 374 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: think at the root of it is the individual impact. 375 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Store is that that I hear still, you know, for 376 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: the those those first couple of years, it was endless letters, emails, 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: calls of people that I had never met sharing their deepest, 378 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: darkest fears, secrets, stories, and I'll never forget those. And 379 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: those have slowed down, but I still hear them, and 380 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: I still think of the ones that were shared at 381 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: the beginning. And I think for us, we you know, 382 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: we wanted to bring this issue into the light and 383 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, not let it go back away into the 384 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: dark and have it be something that's continually talked about 385 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: and not let up on that because it can can 386 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: so easily slip away, and so really continually pushing for 387 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: that reason because this is still a huge problem. 388 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: You know. 389 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: I saw an article the other day saying, you know, 390 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: kind of almost like celebrating like this tiny little uptick 391 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: or down tick in suicide, but the numbers are still 392 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: so staggering, and I think that's where we feel our 393 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: role is to, you know, make sure that people are 394 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: paying attention. Still this isn't going anywhere. And I think 395 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: that sometimes from COVID to you know, different things, people say, 396 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: that's why it was this way, but it was bad 397 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: before COVID. You know, we planned to have this initiative 398 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 2: before COVID began, and the numbers just got worse. And 399 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: I think what we've really been focusing on, because of course, 400 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: stigma is still at the core of all the issues 401 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: that if you can't tell anybody that you're struggling, you're 402 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to get the help. And if 403 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: that stigma is there, you're not going to tell anyone. 404 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: But what we start to say, now we've been in 405 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: this for five years, is what happens if the stigma 406 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: feels removed for you and you tell someone, but the 407 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: help's not there, you know, the resources aren't there, the 408 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: support's not there, and so we're really really really focusing 409 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: on that element. How can we be a catalyst for 410 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: others to speak about this, be a catalyst for others 411 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: to invest in them space and speak out because I 412 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: think that what we found probably the most is that 413 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: somebody like us who has a voice and has a 414 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: brand and has a you know, powerful light that gets 415 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: shown on us. We shared that spotlight and that voice 416 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: with this topic and it got a lot more people 417 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: paying attention to it. And I think that we hope 418 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: that other people can see that, and we can. We 419 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: have seen that. You know, we've had two teams and 420 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: the NFL join us in our efforts in the preseason 421 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: of the last two years with the Bears and the Cardinals. 422 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: And we've had other local sports teams reach out and 423 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: have us help them have a mental health awareness night 424 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: to try to mirror what we've done with our games 425 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: the last three years, and having players wear shirts, having 426 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: their be messaging during the game. The list goes on 427 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: and on, but I think the point is every little 428 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: thing that we do matters, and we try to be 429 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: really strategic in what we do how we do it, 430 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: Where is each and every single dollar go, and be 431 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: very strategic about how we give and why we give, 432 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: to where we give, and how can we be in 433 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: partnership with others because we know, again, like I said, 434 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: all good things don't get done alone. We can't do 435 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: this by ourselves, you know, we can't be the only 436 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: ones donating. We can't be the only ones talking about it. 437 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: And I think as the years have gone on, you've 438 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: seen more and more people be comfortable with it. And 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: I think that's what it takes. It takes more and 440 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: more people talking about it, having it be more of 441 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: a cultural acceptance. We have a long road to go, 442 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: but I'm really hopeful and the progress we've made so far. 443 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: One of the things when I've talked to recipients of 444 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: the Kicking the Stigma Action Grants, which provide funds for 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: very specific programs, whether it's research, or its awareness or 446 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: it's actual treatment, they all tell me that having the 447 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: cult's logo behind this and having the backing of the 448 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts in this state makes a huge difference when 449 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: it comes to getting people in the door, breaking down 450 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: those walls, you know, just getting them to even consider 451 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: getting help. Having the Cults logo behind it is so important. 452 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious, as you know, you you started it and 453 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: you had this idea of what it might be. How 454 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: have you sort of realized having the brand the Horseshoe 455 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: behind this make like how much of an impact has 456 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: that made on the mental health of folks in the state. 457 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's you know, we love hearing from our 458 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: action and grant recipients and we have over sixty plus 459 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: of them over the past five years. And that's not 460 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: you know, limited to the number of places we've gifted, 461 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: but out of the recipients, there's over sixty And I 462 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: think you're right that when we started it, and I 463 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: always like tell people the only reason we have the 464 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: logo as a part of it is so that people 465 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: might because we've been told people pay more attention. And 466 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: it's also just because our you know, efforts in the 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: community have always been tied you know, as a family 468 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: to the team. But it was never about you know, 469 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: trying to you know, put the horseshoe you know right 470 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: with this. It was always like just for what you 471 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: just said. But I don't think we've realized the impact 472 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: that it would have and the way that it hits 473 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: such a nerve in such a positive way with people. 474 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: And I think a big part of it is our 475 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: players willingness to be a part of this and be 476 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: open themselves, some of them about what they've struggled with, 477 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: or what their loved ones have struggled with, or even 478 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: just simply saying we see you and it's okay, I'm 479 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: not judging you. And I think the big piece behind 480 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: that is, you know, football players are really kind of 481 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: our you know, common day Greek gods. You know, this 482 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: larger than life energy and you know something that you 483 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 2: don't even think, You don't even know how you'd ever 484 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: be able to be like that. You never know how 485 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: you could ever be that strong or that tough and 486 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: all that, and then to see them kind of pull down, 487 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: take off the helmet, pull down that wall and be 488 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: vulnerable is a huge impact and showing you know, we 489 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: talked a lot about with men especially is you know, 490 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: redefining what you know masculinity means, you know, do you 491 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 2: can you not cry and not be masculine? No? And 492 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 2: kind of can you not share your feelings and not 493 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: be masculine? 494 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: No? 495 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: And I think that that was a big part of 496 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 2: this that we didn't realize how much of an impact 497 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: it would have is the players being so willing to 498 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: be a part of this, and I think over time 499 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: it's been amazing to see how it's positively affected the 500 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: locker room, positively affected our building, you know, open doors 501 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: and conversations that may not have happened before we started 502 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: this initiative. And so, like I said, there's so many 503 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: elements to it, you know, internally externally, so many different 504 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: areas of mental health that we've affected. And then you 505 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: go into every element of the community has an element 506 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: of mental health. You know, mental health is tied to 507 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: every single one of us. And I think getting that 508 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: a space and permission for that type of conversation too, 509 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: that there's a very large spectrum of mental health and 510 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: that you know, being proactive instead of reactive can really 511 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: be a huge thing in this space. And I think 512 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: part of that is talking about it, is opening those 513 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: cons doors for conversations and allowing people to be comfortable 514 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: and have the permission. And I always say, I don't 515 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: mean it like talk about it on a podcast, like 516 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: maybe we are right now, not everybody's not everybody's comfortable 517 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: telling their story that right, and that's totally fine. But 518 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: it could just be telling your best friend, your mom, 519 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: whoever it is that you're comfortable with. That can feel 520 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: like climbing a mountain. But when you do it, I 521 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: think everyone would say that on the other end is 522 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: a brighter light and you know, kind of allowing those 523 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: conversations to happen is what we hope to be doing 524 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: with every element that we do in Kicking the Stigma. 525 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: It's really cool being an employee and seeing all the 526 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: pactful stuff that goes on in the community between Kicking 527 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: the Stigma, the Road to one hundred, all our other 528 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: community initiatives that we do it. Just as someone who 529 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: works for the team, it is really cool to see 530 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the positive impact that is being made by this organization. 531 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Kaylin Jackson, Colts owner and vice chair. Thanks for joining 532 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: me here on the Colt Show. 533 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me all right. 534 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Back here on the Colt Show, and it's time for 535 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: the Colts Show mail Bag. Remember, you can submit your 536 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: questions to me on Colts dot com Slash mail bag. 537 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: You can drop them in a comment on the YouTube 538 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: video of this podcast, or you can get at me 539 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: on social media with your questions. I'm going to answer 540 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: one question here on the podcast and then a number 541 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: of other questions on Colts dot Com in an article 542 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: that'll be out on Thursday. Had a lot of really 543 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: good questions this week. This one, though, comes from Cody 544 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: Wilson from Indianapolis. Cody writes, based off the stock we 545 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: have in the fourth overall pick, this is Anthony Richardson 546 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: and the fourteen million we have given Daniel Jones, who 547 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: on paper has the best of being the Day one starter. 548 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: I understand live reps in preseason will tell us a 549 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: lot about improvements on past mistakes for both players, But 550 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: based on knowledge we have now and the vibe around 551 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the staff and team, who could potentially be the Day 552 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: one starter. Dale York from Newcastle, indian asked a similar 553 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: question about who I think the starting quarterback will be 554 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: in Week one and will there truly be a competition 555 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: for the spot. So I kind of want to just 556 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: reset here a little bit, because we've spent a lot 557 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: of time talking about the draft. We spent a lot 558 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: of time talking about obviously, you know Girls' Flag. Next 559 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: week is going to be about the schedule release. But 560 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: the thing that's looming over this season, this cold season 561 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: is who's going to start a quarterback? And I think, 562 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: to quickly answer Dale's question, yes, there will truly be 563 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: a competition. I think some you know, I saw some 564 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: commentary of like, well, Colt's brought Daniel Jones in, but 565 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: they really want Anthony Richardson to be the guy. Whoever 566 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: is the better quarterback out of these two guys is 567 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: going to start, no matter if it's got all this 568 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: stuff committed to Anthony because he's a fourth overall picker. 569 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: We committed this amount of money to Daniel Jones. It's 570 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: going to be whoever's the best quarterback. But just a 571 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: little peak inside this because I think this is probably 572 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: one of the most the most interesting things to me 573 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: about this competition. So Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, they're 574 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: both big and they're athletic, and you think, okay, well 575 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: they could maybe be kind of similar type offenses within 576 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: what Shane Stiken wants to do. But here's where I'm 577 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: really interested in where this competition goes. So over the 578 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: last three years, Daniel Jones' average depth of target was 579 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: about seven yards beyond the line of scrimmage. That's not 580 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: very far compared to guys who are maybe seven and 581 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: a half eight eight and a half yards beyond the 582 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. That it kind of tells us what 583 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: we know. Daniel Jones did not push the ball downfield 584 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: a whole lot. When he was with the New York 585 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: Giants Anthony Richardson in twenty twenty three, his average depth 586 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: of target was seven point five yards. In twenty twenty 587 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: four it was twelve point three yards. So of Anthony 588 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: Richardon's three hundred and forty eight career pass attempts in 589 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, fifty eight of those were targeted a receiver 590 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: at least twenty yards downfield. That's sixteen point seven percent 591 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: of those passes Daniel Jones from twenty twenty two to 592 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And I took that range because that 593 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: includes the twenty two season where he was really good, 594 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: the Giants made the playoffs, they won a playoff game, 595 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: and then twenty two to twenty three where he had 596 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: some issues and some struggles in New York. Of his 597 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: one one hundred and sixty nine passes over the last 598 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: three years, sixty five of those were twenty or more 599 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: yards downfield. That's five point five percent. So in Anthony 600 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: Richardson's played what seventeen games in the NFL, He's targeted 601 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: guys downfield twenty on deep passes fifty eight times. Daniel 602 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Jones in three years only had seven more of those passes. 603 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: So that's just sort of a general overview here. I mean, look, 604 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: we know it Anthony Richardson pushes the ball downfield a 605 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: little bit more, a lot more than Daniel Jones here. 606 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: Now that the different separator here is on throws of 607 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: under twenty yards, so when you're not throwing it deep, 608 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones completed seventy six of his seventy six percent 609 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: of his passes over the last three years. That's twenty 610 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: third out of seventy four qualified NFL quarterbacks per Pro 611 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Football Focus. Anthony Richardson, on those same throws from nineteen 612 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: yards downfield to behind the line of scrimmage completed sixty 613 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: three percent of his passes. That's seventy third out of 614 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: seventy four quarterbacks with at least one hundred of those throws. 615 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: So that's a separator Daniel Jones is he has shown 616 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: over his career he's going to complete more of those 617 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: intermediate and short passes than Anthony Richardson. How does that 618 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: play out in the Colts quarterback battle is what I 619 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: am interested in finding out, and I think what the 620 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Colts are interested in finding out. It's why I don't 621 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: want to handicap this thing right now, because if Anthony 622 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: Richardson comes in and he's he's still able to push 623 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: the ball downfield, but he's complete more of those short 624 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: and intermediate throws, then you would say, Okay, well he's 625 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: probably gonna have the lead in it. But if he 626 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: comes in and he maybe doesn't do those things, or 627 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes in and maybe he does start pushing 628 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: it downfield a little bit more, and you can envision 629 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: an offense that could be more explosive, or at least 630 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: about his explosive, maybe even a little bit less. You're 631 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: still probably okay with that as with Anthony Richardson, but 632 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna get more consistency from zero to twenty, then 633 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's Daniel Jones. The injury factor for Anthony Richardson 634 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: does play a part in here as well. He's got 635 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: to be able to stay healthy right now. That's where 636 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: he's at. He's at a really good offseason everything that 637 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: we have heard about richardson this offseason has been really 638 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: positive in the work he's done with guys like Chris 639 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Hewlett down in Florida, and he's healthy right now. So 640 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: that's all really good to hear. We'll see kind of 641 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: where that goes. But right now, to answer Cody's question 642 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: and the answer answer Dale's question, it's too early to tell. 643 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's okay. I think there doesn't need 644 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: to be a front runner in this if you really 645 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: want to figure out who gives you the best chance 646 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to win in twenty twenty five. All right, really good questions. Again, 647 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't get to all of them obviously on this podcast, 648 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: but I got to a lot of them on Colts 649 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: dot Com. Go check that out. A lot of again, 650 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: really smart questions. Thanks to everyone who's submitted. It's really 651 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: fun seeing just how smart listeners of this show are, 652 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: how smart Colts fans are, and how in tune with 653 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: the entire team. You guys are so really appreciate all that. 654 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of The 655 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Colts Show next week of a really exciting one. I'm 656 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: going to do a little bit. I'm gonna do the 657 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: mail bag from here, but the rest of the episode 658 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: is going to be from Berlin, Germany, where I had 659 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down with Colts Director of Football 660 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Operations Mulaney Low, where we talked all about the logistical 661 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: challenges of hosting a game in Berlin, which by the 662 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: time this next episode comes out, we are going to 663 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: know who the Cults are playing in Berlin when that 664 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: game is and also, by the way, when the other 665 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: sixteen games are on the Cult schedule. As the NFL schedule, well, 666 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: it will be released at eight pm on Wednesday, May fourteenth. 667 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: We'll have an episode of Instant Reaction that'll be out 668 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, going through the Colts schedule. That'll be 669 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: out again Wednesday night on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, on YouTube, 670 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. If you've made it this 671 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: far you liked this episode, please give us a five 672 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: star review on Apple Podcasts, subscribe to us on YouTube, 673 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: lock in for us here, because we are not going 674 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: to stop our content once the schedule comes out. We 675 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: are going to have a lot of stuff coming about 676 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: the schedule release, about that quarterback competition I just talked about, 677 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: and about this entire Colts team over the next few 678 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: weeks and months leading into training camp. And also check 679 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: out the latest episode of High Volume with Jeffrey Gorman. 680 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Need a chance to sit down with the great Tom 681 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Moore for a lengthy podcast getting into Tom's career, really 682 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: interesting stuff as always on High Volume with Jeffrey Gormant. 683 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's going to do it for this episode 684 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: of the Cult Show. Thank you for watching, Thank you 685 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: for listening. We'll talk to you next week about the 686 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Colts schedule. So long,