1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: of the Mets Stuff Podcast. We've got a new reliever 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: in the bullpen and he played for the Yankees. Luke Weaver, 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: a New York Met coming on over from the Dark 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Side to Queens. We'll talk about the Mets moves along 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: with signing all the old Yankees players because the Yankees 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: have never signed Mets players. Don't don't look at a 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Metrazario on what team he plays for right now. But hey, 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: we got Luke Weaver. We're gonna talk about what this 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: bullpen could look like because it still is a major 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: work in progress. Then we got a little media marvel 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: for you guys too. We haven't done it in a 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: minute so. 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Quickly like we did it like last week. Keep it 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: out of that was like not. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Official media marvel. This is gonna be like media marvel 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: because we got some crazy stuff that's been said over 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: the last few days. Quick little episode for you guys. 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it. If you do, make sure you're 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: subscribed over on YouTube. Shout to everybody who's been subbing 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: over there. We really appreciate you. Shout out to all 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: our members too. You get access to the episodes early 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and if you're listening to US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: drops the rating, drops the review, download and subscribe, all right, 25 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: James Initial reactions to Luke Weaver signing. I know we 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: didn't put out an initial reaction video, but you're getting 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: it now. 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: What do you think initial reaction? I think it's just good. 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: I think that Luke Weaver has become a good reliever. 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: I to be honest, I always had a soft spot 31 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: for Luke Weaver. Like he's one of my first, like 32 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: real prospect fascinations back in the day. But it's a 33 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: it's a good fastball. He's done good work the last 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: few years, especially with the Yankees, to get a lot 35 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: more vertical action on his fastball. He has a good 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: change up that works well against right. He's n left. 37 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: He's has a right handed picture. Like he's just he's 38 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: a good picture. To me, he's a good picture. I 39 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: think that some people instant react sometimes to news like 40 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: this where you get a guy the Yankees didn't sign 41 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: and people freak out just for that. But like he's 42 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: over the last two years, you have one hundred and 43 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: fifty innings, you have a whip under one, you have 44 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: a three two era, you have a thirty percent of 45 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: strike out raid like for eleven million dollars, I think 46 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: it's hard to get a better reliever than that. 47 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: He's a splitter guy. Change up guy. What's his change up? 48 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Change up? So I know they're not the exact same, 49 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: but to me, it feels like he's gonna kind of 50 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: fill the read gear that's kind of been going because 51 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: Luke Weaver's guy too, who I think made like sixty 52 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: something appearances last year, but through eighty innings. He has 53 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the ability to go multiple innings ago two years ago guy, 54 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: he has the ability to be stretched out a little 55 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: bit more than the normal reliever because he was a 56 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: former starting pitching prospect formally traded for Paul Goldschmidt also 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: interviewed Luke Weaver back in twenty nineteen. Really nice guys, 58 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: good dude, But I just feel like it's a better 59 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: version of kind of what this bullpen Ish had last year. 60 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Like I see him being in that Red Garrett almost 61 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: like Fireman Roll a little bit kind off. 62 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: He also just could be good enough to be the 63 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: eighth inning guy. Like I am starting to become curious 64 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: whether or not we add another ten million dollar relievers 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: his bullpen because we have three, Like that's already. 66 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: It's become a like Mintor's good. Like Mintor's a guy, 67 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: very good. I think was expected to be our eighth 68 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: inning guy last year before the injury. So like those 69 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: two probably flip flopping based on what the matchup is 70 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: for that eighth inning before you go to Devin Williams. 71 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: They're not the sexiest name by any means, but you 72 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: might look back at the end of the year and 73 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: see a couple guys with low three and you'd be happy. 74 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Also, Luke Weaver last year made sixty 75 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: four appearances for sixty four innings, but sixteen of those 76 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: he got more than three outs. 77 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Okay, great, Yeah, I love that, And that's something we've 78 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: always talked about too, like we want it is such 79 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: a weapon to have a reliever that can get more 80 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: than three outs, And we've seen Carlos Windoz is not 81 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: afraid to put pitch relievers either for more than three outs. 82 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: He's a big fan of that updown. 83 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: And I also think it's funny to look now and 84 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: be like, Luke Weaver's going to make eleven million dollars. 85 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: We'll see contract details. It seems to just be a 86 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: straight two for twenty two Devin Williams. After the deferrals. 87 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: It's between fourteen fifteen million a year. So those two 88 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: guys together are making about three million dollars more than 89 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Edwin Diaz by himself. And you can kind of see 90 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: where the Mets we're thinking. And then with that leftover money, 91 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: who probably still add one more three or four million 92 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: dollar Darth Thor reliever. They still need gas in this ballpen. 93 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: We've still talked about that. Yeah, badly. Luke Weaver isn't 94 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: He's not. He isn't like not throw hard, but he 95 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: doesn't throw like hard hard, like he's gonna sit ninety five, 96 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: which is average for a right handed pitcher right now 97 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: major League Baseball. We still need some like fucking one 98 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: hundred mile an hour heat. But like he's again, this 99 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: is a good reliever. There's all some good facts here 100 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: about Luke Weaver. He got injured last year, he strained 101 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: his hamstring, and people, especially talking to some Yankee people today, 102 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: they felt like he never got right after that. In 103 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: twenty five and two thirds innings before he went on 104 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: the il at the end of May, he had a 105 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: one point zero five VRA in thirty nine innings. After 106 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: that trip of the injured list, he had a five 107 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: point three one ERA and he only gave up twenty 108 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: six earned runs on the season. Five of them came 109 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: in one game in August. I want to say it 110 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: was late August. No, it's mid September against the Twins, 111 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: who was like one of the worst teams in baseball 112 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: at that point anyway, And in five days before that 113 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: he gave up three against the Tigers. So reliever eras 114 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: are very fickle beasts. And the fact that he gave 115 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: up eight of his twenty six earned runs in two 116 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: of three appearances in the middle of September, and there 117 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: was some you know, definitely some inconsistencies after his hamstring injury. 118 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: He also, I don't want to scare Mets fans, it 119 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: might be some PTSD with this line right here. He 120 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: dealt with some pitch tipping things that went on through 121 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: the postseason. He was basically he was like the worst 122 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: pitcher in the history of Earth. During the postseason this year, 123 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: he became unusable. He had some really awkward quotes. He 124 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: gave a couple Martino towards the beginning of October, Who's like, 125 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: I just want to get back to pitching, Like I 126 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: feel like I'm out of sorts right now. I feel 127 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: like I'm not able to attack the way I want 128 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: to attack. Like it was, it seemed like there was 129 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: some mechanical things pre pitch that he was fighting with 130 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: himself with. That definitely hurt the way he again pitching 131 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: the postseason, I think also closed out the year, and. 132 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: He likes it's like ninety five right, Like he's mid average, 133 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: right averaging out of the bullpen. That's not like elite 134 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: numbers like you would see out of a starting pitcher. 135 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned about the vilo because that is the biggest 136 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: thing missing from this bullpen. We love velo over here. 137 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: You guys might not, but it's just statistically better than 138 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: throwing softer. It's a fact there's not a lot of 139 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: velo available that is good. A lot of the VLO 140 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: available is going to be projects. It's gonna kind of 141 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: be shots in the dark. Like Hunter Harvey throws really hard, 142 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: but he might not be shot in the dark. At 143 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: this point, you don't think he is. 144 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't think you can Hunter Harvey for under seven 145 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: mil Okay. 146 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's probably not a shot in the dark, 147 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: then if you're gonna be in that range, definitely. 148 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Again, he's dealt with injuries, but he closed the season 149 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: last year healthy, so I do wonder if you can 150 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: get a guy like him. But I think something cool 151 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: about Luke Weaver, which I do think this Mets bullpen 152 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: needed right now, was that while he doesn't throw hard, 153 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: his fastball does play up because it has really good 154 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: hop and it can miss bats in the strike zone. 155 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: That's the word we use, a lot hop a ride. 156 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: It just means that the fastball has the backspin and 157 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: it gives the illusion of it rising up to a bather. 158 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: This Mets bullpen didn't really have a right handed pitcher 159 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: with a hoppy fastball, and I think that it's a 160 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: good pair with Devin Williams at the back. And I'm 161 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: sure this was like part of the thinking with the 162 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Yankees last year and playing these guys together in the 163 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: back of their bullpen was that Devin Williams is a 164 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: low slot guy and the fastball kind of runs. Luke 165 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: Weaver is a bit more of a high release as 166 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: fastball rises, so I think that is I think that's 167 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: a good way to change hit. His eye levels could 168 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: be the last two winnings for us, and a Jim 169 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: Minter has some hop on it. He's got some cut 170 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: onto too. He's a leftist, so slightly different look. I 171 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: think it was a different look that Mets wanted. And 172 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm happy to get a reliever whose fastball can miss 173 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: some bats. 174 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we desperately, desperately need bullpen help. Again. The 175 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: bullpen was bad last year. It wasn't very good, and 176 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: getting another major league actual reliever helps. 177 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. It is funny to me a little bit that 178 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: we're just remaking the Yankee bullpen they overhauled at the 179 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: trade deadline. 180 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little concerning. I think that's that's fair. We 181 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: are really banking on some bouncebacks from guys. 182 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: Which is about scary, some bounce backs where things under 183 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: the hoods still look good. Like lu We've still missed 184 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: the bats last year. Like he's a significantly higher swings 185 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: swing strike rate than Robert Suarez. 186 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure the fly ball that's running with him will 187 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: play better in city field than it will in Yankee Stadium. 188 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: Definitely gave up tons of fly balls last year with 189 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: that hoppy rivy fastball that was sort of the top 190 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: of the zone. 191 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Makes you think like Mets still need to outfielders, Like 192 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: what do we having there? Because if we're gonna have 193 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: all these we're going to get them. We have all 194 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: these fly ball guys. Who's gonna catch those fly balls? 195 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: Tyrone, Taylor, Baby cover the whole thing. It's just it is, 196 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: It is funny like this, it just feels very incomplete. 197 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: I think that we are looking for like the one moment, 198 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: the one signing, the one day, the one trade. We're like, 199 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: oh nice that it is. Now it's complete. But I 200 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: don't I just don't think we're gonna get that because 201 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: this is going to be a bit more of a 202 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: slog of an off seasons, a bit more of a grind. 203 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: But this is where there's where you test your stomach 204 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: and you really figure you really figure out what we 205 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: got here. 206 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I've I was texting you yesterday that I've kind of 207 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: got like I'm at the point now where I think 208 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I've gotten over it. At least I'd like to think 209 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I've gotten over it. And it's like, well, there's nothing 210 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: that me or you can do. We kind of just 211 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: have to sit back and wait, So I'm going to 212 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: kind of try and convince myself that I'm feeling better 213 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: about what's been going on, despite knowing that this Mets 214 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: team is not as good as they were last year, 215 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: and last year they stunk. 216 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also think that there were some fears 217 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: in the Mets community that we were just going to 218 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: punt and like tank for lack of a better term, 219 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: I think seeing the last couple of days again, well, 220 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: these are not sexy moves. The fact that you add 221 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: like twenty million dollars for Harry Palanco and eleven million 222 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: dollars for Luke Weaver, it's indication that you're still trying 223 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: to win baseball games. And like, I don't even know 224 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: if you saw this, but if you look on fangrass 225 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: right now, I think we're projected at the fifth Highes 226 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: win to all on baseball. 227 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: Ye know, we are. All the projection systems still love 228 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: us now. Granted, part of that is them thinking that 229 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: Mark Vientos will be a major League baseball player, and 230 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: that's yeah, there's a more likely chance than that he's 231 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: not even on this team by the time that the 232 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: season starts. I mean, you still do have Jeffing deal. 233 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Relatively speaking from a starting pitching standpoint, the Mets have 234 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: a ton of it, which I'm sure the projections love 235 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: that you have nine starting pitchers that could theoretically throw. 236 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: You still have Francisco and Lindor and Wansota, who are 237 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: two of the most valuable players in all of baseball. 238 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Like I can, I can see the rationale behind it, 239 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: but it's just hard to see the way that the 240 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: team played last year. Yeah, the roster just get worse 241 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and be like with your eyes eyes, like this is 242 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: not as good of a team, and then be like, well, 243 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: fifth highest projected wind total right now, Like if I 244 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: was betting on that, I wouldn't because let's go Mets 245 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: smashing the underhammering it. 246 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean I would Where do you think right now 247 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: our winds total would actually be eighty five and a half? 248 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Would you go over and under? 249 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: I well, based on what the projections are telling you, 250 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: it seems like it's going to be higher than that. 251 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: But I just think that right now there's a glut 252 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball teams in this exact same range. 253 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of Baseball right now feels kind 254 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: of like the Dodgers gap, Blue Jay's, Mariners gap, everybody else? 255 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to put the Yankees in that gap? 256 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: Either in that I. 257 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: Think the Yankees are approaching that gap, but the Yankees 258 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: are the Yanks. Also this year, we don't know when 259 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: Rodin's coming back. Cole's also missed in the beginning of 260 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: the season. They also they might they might get Tatsuimai. 261 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: It's just it's also the Yankee element of this is 262 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: all very funny. 263 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: It is very funny. It's just a fun conversation because 264 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: now every time the Mets signed a player the last 265 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: few it's been Yankees players, and that's all the Yankee 266 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: fans could talk about. 267 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: And we're getting guys very quickly off the Yankees, very consistently, 268 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: Like this offseason alone, we've already Goten Weaver and Devin 269 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: Williams like they're eight ninth guys going in. Like last 270 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: year it was so of the Clay Holmes. 271 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I just I like to think about it from the 272 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: other perspective, because like the Yankee fans are ragging on us, 273 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: you're taking our sloppy seconds, you're taking our what did 274 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Michael would the Lion say? 275 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think he's I'll look it up right now. 276 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: He made some sort of comment about like their hand 277 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: me downs or whatever it's gonna be. But it's funny 278 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: that if Met players went to the Yankees, the narrative 279 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: with them would be that they wanted to play for 280 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: the real New York team. 281 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: He say, it's weird the Mets are collecting former Yankees. 282 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Like, it's only weird if you make it weird because 283 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: you guys signed a med Rosario. There's been plenty of 284 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: former Mets that have gone through the Yankee system. It's 285 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: not like this is a new thing. And also, like, 286 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: if you look at this Yankees roster, there's a bunch 287 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: of players that came from the Rockies, one of the 288 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: worst organizations in baseball, a couple bunch of players that 289 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: came from the White Sox, a couple of players that 290 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: came from like other horror from horrible teams. I'd rather 291 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: take players from good teams. I guess it's. 292 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: Also a case especially with Williams and so though, and 293 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: it might might be a case with Weaver. We see 294 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: what happens in a few years. These guys are all 295 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: gonna spend more time with the Mets than they did 296 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: with the Yankees. Like when Wansla shows up on Opening 297 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 2: Day this year, he will have played more regular scen 298 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: and games with the Mets and the Yankees. Once we 299 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: get to mayl played more of total games with the 300 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: Mets and the Yankees. It's also I don't know of 301 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: a lot of you guys listening to this live in 302 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: New York or not. I think when a lot of 303 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: these guys start and one to New York teams, Unlet's 304 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: say you have an apartment that you like, which is 305 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: a hard thing to find in New York no matter 306 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: how rich you are. Two teams offer you the same 307 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: contract and one team you don't have to move. I 308 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: think you just take that deal, like you don want 309 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: to deal with all that, like all the logistics you're 310 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: taking care of. You signed the paper and you sit 311 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: back on your couch. Is awesome. 312 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: As much as people also hate New York, people love 313 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: New York. So these guys be like, I want to 314 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: stay here and my team won't keep me, I'm gonna 315 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: go to the Mets. 316 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: And again Luke Luke Weaver is just a good reliever. 317 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: He's not a great reliever. We're not pretending he's a 318 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: great reliever like they. 319 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: Thought like two years ago, where like did they find 320 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: the new Yankees closer type thing? 321 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: I mean they think they did for a second. It's 322 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: funny that the Mets have signed the last three guys 323 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: that lost the Yankee closer job that way, Williams, Luke Weaver, 324 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: three guys that got replaced at the Yankee closed or 325 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: maybe after next season, Weld get David Bednar. 326 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: The last few guys that the Mets have brought in 327 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: from the Yankees, they've completely saved their careers. Clay Holmes 328 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: now is a really good starting pitcher pitching for Team USA. 329 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Shout out Clay Holmes. Luis Savarino got a big pay 330 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: day after taking like completely try me out. Let's add 331 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Devin Williams and Luke Weaver to the bunch. 332 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: I think I can. They're just good, but don't bring 333 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: that one up. Mean he failed to both. He just 334 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: will not be for New York. He took he took 335 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: a stop in between two. It's not like you just 336 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: went directly. It's funny too that this Luke Weaver contract 337 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: happened within the hour of Brad Keller signed with the 338 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: Phillies for literally the exact same amount of money. 339 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, these teams all know the values of these guys. 340 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's and it would happen instantly. And another real 341 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: message for this Luke Weaver signing, because there's still been 342 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: the bubbles of the trade between the Mets and the Padres. 343 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: This was another one. There was no reporting, there was 344 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: no connection. We we had it like a tiny bit 345 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: before it happened, but it was like we as in 346 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: like the Mets community, like people start tweeting about it 347 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: and not like marking X. We don't have that. It 348 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: was just when Mets make a move, it's gonna be 349 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: the silence of the night. It's going to be like 350 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: what's the line from Sopranos, Like I bet when it happens, 351 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: you don't even hear it. Like that's what every single 352 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: Mets move feels like at this point. Yeah, that was 353 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: Bacca lay Bacla on the boat right and the boats 354 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: then he got you know, the train store. But whatever, 355 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: it's whatever, whatever gets reported that there almost makes me 356 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: think less and less fits going to happen. Like this 357 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: Padres trade thing. We've talked about it over and over 358 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: and over and over again. It feels like it's not happening. 359 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't see a way that it makes sense for 360 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: for the Padres. 361 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Like ever, I think I think we could probably cross 362 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: off Mason Miller's name from it. Yeah, I think that's 363 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: the one thing. I think there probably still is an 364 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: avenue to get through here where the Mets wind up 365 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: with like Paveda Estrada, Marajone, Loreano, like one to three 366 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: of those players in one shot, and you sent back 367 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: some combination of sprote Viento, Secunya, Peterson, you know, like 368 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: that Koda Sanga. Yeah, like like back those conglomerations of players. 369 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: I think we can find something. But I'm sure for 370 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: Carson Bench, especially because of the fact that they just 371 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: gave up one of the best prospects in baseball, they 372 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: probably started asking for Carson Bench, which Jim Dukett dropped 373 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: at S and hy on two on Thursday night, and 374 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: I was like, that's not happening, And then they probably 375 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: asked for Tong. You probably know the balls and you 376 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: move on to the next stage. That's probably It's probably 377 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: happened a week ago and we're only we only got 378 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: to hear about the beginning of this week. 379 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we made the video about it, Like 380 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I I get them views, but like I don't think 381 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: for a second either of us thought that any of 382 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: those trades were going to actually be happening. 383 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: Especially not Mason Miller. And I think you guys grew 384 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: with that too, Like I would love to have Mason 385 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Miller in this bullpen. Like the way this Mets bullpen 386 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: looks right now, it's not good. It doesn't make me 387 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: want to puke anymore, which I think is a really 388 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: big step. You know what, that's a really good thing. 389 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: It looks like like a like a Cincinnati Reds bullpen. 390 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Oh good, good, Like since I reads in a good 391 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: year ball, Yeah yeah, Like that's what it feels like 392 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: right now, which doesn't make me feel good. This to me, 393 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: right now looks like a bullpen that could have the 394 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: eleventh best Ballpenny Rait block them in right outside the 395 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: top ten eleven to fourteen. Last year we were fifteenth, 396 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: and that was like the worst case scenario happened across 397 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: the board. We also had Edwin Diaz. Like this year 398 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: we could be the best case scenario, the seventh best 399 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Ballpenny ra the worst case snario like the eighteenth, And. 400 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: It does lead the question what's more important having a 401 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: lights out ninth inning guy or having everybody else be 402 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: lights out to get you to the ninth inning. 403 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: And I think for where the bullpen was, we probably 404 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: just would have slightly rather had a little bit more 405 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: depth in volume. 406 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm cool to make myself think that that 407 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: would have been better right now because I have no 408 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: other option. I'm I'm saying that's we have to be. 409 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm cool to Stockholm syndrome myself into just thinking that 410 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: it surely has to be better than what it was 411 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: last year. 412 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: But also it is about time to see if the 413 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: development machine can convert a reliever. 414 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: At this point, well, yeah that when you brought the 415 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: v law, I wanted to bring U. Dylan Ross, Ryan Lambert. 416 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Those are two guys I think we are going to 417 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: see in the Mets bullpen at some point in the 418 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: major league season. Dylan Ross, maybe even out of spring training, 419 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: because he got that little. 420 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Look at the end of the year, and he's on 421 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: the forty man where Lambert was to be added to 422 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: the forty man, and our forty man is full right now. 423 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: Luke Weaver was not having officially honest, someone's going to 424 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: get caught there, but we got Brandon Wadell, cut Forge, 425 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Marx Boy, Drew Romo. Are you saying, my boy, that's 426 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: your boy? That was your boy in the draft. 427 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I did not like Drew Romo. I did. 428 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: That's why he's your boy. Like that seems like he's 429 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: going to compete again. This is also a rat in 430 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: the off season right now, because it's the off season. 431 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: You can't have guys on the sixty day right Yes, 432 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: sixty hasn't starts to the season. So Tyler McGill will 433 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: be another empty spot whatever the season begins dead. Neil 434 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Nuniez will be another empty spot. Are we missing anybody else? 435 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 436 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, read Garrett read Garrett. Yes, so those three will 437 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: also be free. And also like there's a good chance 438 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: bro goes to the bullpen to start the year two. 439 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit last epters. I 440 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: mean throws like ninety eight as a starter. I would 441 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: be I'd lowkey loved to see what he can do 442 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: with like a two winning role in the bullpen. 443 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he's this guy's not pitching the 444 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: ball and hopefully but Nolan McLain on the Pitching Ninja 445 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Podcast last week sa he's watched to one hundred this year. 446 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: His max, I think is ninety nine point one. We 447 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: also were probably going to get I mean, the way 448 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: things are looking right now, we're still going to see 449 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: about the outfield. Carson Bench probably gets a forty man 450 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: spot much sooner rather than later, so he gets another 451 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: one with forty man spot, so they'll still be a 452 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: little bit to play with. It's toill lost their way 453 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: to go in this offseason. 454 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Some nasty players on this forty man. Just to tell you, guys, 455 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: a couple like name Jiwan Bay Oh, why he's still 456 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Jiwan bay is on the forty man. Yeah? Uh. Jared 457 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Young is on the forty man. I feel like he's 458 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: a little redundant right now on this team. Doesn't really 459 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: fit in the infielders or whatever. They're all major leaguers. 460 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: We do have four catchers right now on our forty man, 461 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: adding to Romo with Hayden Sanger, one of them is 462 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: going to get cut off of there pitching wise, Like 463 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: I liked Austin Warren, but again he's probably a guy 464 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: who's a possible casualty off of this Dick Love Lady, 465 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: I think too. Joey Gerber Cooper Kruswill, Alex Corrello. Those 466 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: are probably all guys that could be considered to be 467 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: taken off too, even though some of them are new acquisitions. 468 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely a lot of room for this 469 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: roster to improve because it seems like we have the 470 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: premiere talent, we have the guys that are up here, 471 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: we have a lot of the middle. We just need 472 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: to raise that floor a little bit because the bottom 473 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: of it, it's like what are we thinking here? And 474 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: we probably still want one more hammer on top of everything. Yeah, 475 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I would feel great with one more on top of everything. 476 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: I would I would love one more premiere player on 477 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: this roster. Know, how about two? 478 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: How about to Mark and I have been doing some 479 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: like past couple of year contract stuff for the Winds Up. 480 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: I think we mentioned this last episode, and like you 481 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: just look at these last few years, like the guys 482 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: that signed when everything kind of felt dead already, Like 483 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: you had Matt Chapman signed below Mark last year, had 484 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: Breakman signed a two year deal or three year deal, 485 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: and then with the opt after one like snaw Pete 486 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: last year signed way late for blow Market Taskar Nanz 487 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: is the first contract Paveta last year took a two 488 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: year like thirty million dollar contract. Cody Bellinger twice, not 489 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: like last year, but the non tender year, and then 490 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: the year after that he signed late for blow market value. 491 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Like there's there's a chance that one of the Framberg 492 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez, Cody Bellinger like even leaving like Kyle Tucker 493 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: at this point, Crew makes it to February ninth without 494 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: a contract, and then you can, especially if that you 495 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: get to the point in the offseason season where maybe 496 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: we've already signed a player with a qualifying offer, then 497 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: you have less a penalty for signing the second player 498 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: with a qualifying offer. You're more willing to sign one 499 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: of those guys. Like that's I think. 500 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's Framber. 501 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: Think Framburgh for three years feels like the opportunistic move 502 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: with the Mega hi a thirty million year. Yeah three 503 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: for like one hundred, Yeah three for a hundred and 504 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: he can he can opt out after the second year. 505 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: And opt out after whatever year he wants. Hey, opt out, 506 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: whatever you want. We got you for one year on 507 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: thirty three million. 508 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just give him the the Alex Bragman contract. 509 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm down for that because there are conservatives. Ramber 510 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: is not next year, it's not the following year. 511 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: It's like when he's thirty six. Yeah, it's like three 512 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: years right now. I'm really scared about Framber. It the 513 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: same thing for Ranger Swartz, Like I think he's someone that. 514 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm still completely out on him, Les Bronsdowski, 515 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: you just put me completely so far. Like in the 516 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: Ranger Suarez is due to stink book. 517 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the Phillies fans because the video but 518 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: on my my Twitter from a video put on my 519 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: channel about free just I don't like and he led 520 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: that video and the Phillies fans want to eat me 521 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: alive for it, because you know, Rangers Ware is like 522 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: a two point two playoff the r and like three 523 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: starts cool man, But like he's I think that you 524 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: probably still get the good Rangers Wars for two years. 525 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I think that it's probably a safe bet. I just 526 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm so not interested in him. He's a He's like 527 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: the anti picture right now, if that makes sense, because 528 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: he was throwing like eighty nine by the end of 529 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: the year. 530 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: But again, I'm not giving him like four years. But 531 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: if I want to give him one year, two years 532 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: opt out like it's you can still you can still 533 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: find a way that I just think that again, this 534 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: is not sexy podcast talk. You're this is gonna ben 535 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: opportunistic offseason. We're gonna we're gonna find our spots and 536 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna let a really good farm system have chances 537 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: to win lots of these jobs and make make themselves heard. 538 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: Luke weavers in the thumb nail might be in the title. 539 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Everyone knew this was not gonna be a sexy podcast 540 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: when you clicked on it. 541 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: No, no way, and then just some other like housekeeping 542 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 2: stuff around before we do like one funny Media went 543 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: over to close out with you guys, Mark mentioned it 544 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: Clay Holmes and Nolan McLain are gonna be NTI in 545 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: USA for the World Baseball Classic, not a popular take 546 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: in Mets World. Mark and I are firm World Baseball 547 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: Classic guys. I love it, incredible tournament. I know we 548 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: got scorned by it once and Bucks Show Walter let 549 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: that ruin the entire season allegedly, but we I love 550 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: the tournament. I think it's a fun time and I 551 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: think it's cool those guys are getting the exposure. 552 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's A're gonna have a ton of guys 553 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: on there too. You're gonna see Lindor Soto's also playing. 554 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure you might even see like luisn Helicun you 555 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: make a ven azuela and roster you might say. 556 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: I almost instinctively said, peak Jesus great. 557 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: That was almost bad. I wouldn't be shocked if like 558 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: Mark Mark Viento's I think can play for Nicaragua. He 559 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: might want to take some AB's, but he also might 560 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: have to prove him self in spring training. Hey, do 561 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: you want Bay might play for Korea? 562 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: Be not associated with the team? Certified bad guy? I 563 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: mean even you got a calvas because sneak on a 564 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: bench like it's yeah. I mean solo of course, can 565 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: lead the Minican team like it's good. There's gonna be 566 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of Mets showing up to that. 567 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it. Should we wizard more? 568 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: In the two more funny quick housekeepings. One, we have 569 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: a new upper level pitching coordinator as the Siren Blair 570 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: is behind me. John de Royne pulled him from Universe 571 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: of Arizona. Got some good words from the pitching community 572 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: that he's sharp. Guess how old he is? 573 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: What's his name? John de Royan, all right, he doesn't 574 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: have one of them. Might be Brady E. 575 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: R o U I N. 576 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twenty seven. 577 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: He's twenty five? Oh wow, Brandon Spro's age. He's gonna 578 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: be the Triple A pitching coach. 579 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: There's a chance he's born in the two thousands. Yeah, 580 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I think almost definitely there's a chance. Yes, he's Yeah, 581 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: he's Brandon Sprots age. He's gonna be the Trip the 582 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: upper level pitching coordinator. I'm sure he's been working a 583 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: lot with the Triple A pitchers. 584 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: And here's a funny one. Kevin Ploecki, he's the Padres 585 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: catching coach. What he's on, Craig stamnit staff. 586 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: Good for the plaw dog, all right, Kevin ploel Right, 587 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: I so knew how to catch. Yeah, he definitely knew 588 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: how to be behind the plate and catch a baseball 589 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: when it was thrown to him. Shout out to uh 590 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: Diana again, the Queen of Mets baseball Twitter. She put 591 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: out like a very funny picture because I think no one. 592 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: Will and Jonah Tong were doing some charity stuff for 593 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: the Mets, which is also funny because Jonah Tong's gotta 594 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: be on the major league roster if he's doing charity 595 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: work and spro Yeah, but they put she put up 596 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: pictures of all the old Mets Santa's and the Elves 597 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: that they would do for their thing, and like Brandon 598 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Nemo played Uh Santa most of the years. You see 599 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: like Noah Cindergarten there, Kevin Ploweki got into one that 600 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: with Jerry Blevins. You see the people that are involved, 601 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: like JD. Davis was one of the elves one year. 602 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: Another picture, Dan Vogelback is behind while Todd zeal is 603 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: Uh Santa. And then my favorite being the combination of 604 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: Brandon Nimmo as Santa, Edwin Dias Robinson Cano as Elves 605 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: and oh wait, who's is that? Corey Oswalt. This this 606 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: team is so fucking cursed at times, it's greasy. 607 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: Send me that to I'm gonna I'm gonna put it 608 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: in the OVID and then close the guys out with 609 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: a medium model that we just we had to find 610 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: a way to address that because when when things when 611 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: things like this come across your desk and like there's 612 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: been a legend like creating takes incubating them for as 613 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: long as this person has you just you can't let 614 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: one of these go by because you do not know 615 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: when the next one's going to come. And Mike Francessa 616 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: blessed us on this front the other day, saying that 617 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: he heard the resource that the source of the rift, 618 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: the alleged rift that we have no proof on, no verification. 619 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: That everybody close to the METS never true. It says, 620 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Everyone else is like, there's a problem. 621 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: Everyone on the radio says it's true, but everyone else 622 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: is not true. That the center of the brand Neimo 623 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: francisceclundor rift came over to Donald Trump presidential election. 624 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: Which is just no matter what side you're on, it's 625 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: so funny. Whether you like him, hate him, feel nothing 626 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: about him, that's not what we're talking about here. We're 627 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: talking about the thought and the idea that that could 628 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: have possibly happened, which is so it's so ridiculous, it's 629 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: absolutely insane. And Mike Francessa, being about two weeks late 630 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: to this whole conversation is the cherry on top where 631 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: he's like, you know what I think brandon Nimo, like 632 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: and Trump is the reason that Francis school indoor and 633 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: him didn't get along. We're like, where where's that even 634 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: coming from? Nobody said they didn't get along. 635 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: It's just again with Mike Francess. He's been doing this 636 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: a very long time. He kind of created this entire 637 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: ecosystem that we get the benefit from at this point, Like, 638 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. 639 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: He's he's a founding father for sure for sports talk 640 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the world for. 641 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: Regular guys just dropping crazy takes about sports. 642 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: He's not a regular guy. He could have been an 643 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: NFL head coach. 644 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: True, no, of course, I mean Bill Purcels said so. 645 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: But like he's he's a legend, Mike Francesca, Mike france says, 646 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: is an absolute legend. Whatever again, love him or hate them, 647 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: the guy was is an icon truthfull always is. Like 648 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: he's giving this talk on it, he's a number one 649 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: again that this is why Michael k has his complex 650 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: because every single day, month year he lost to Mike 651 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: francessahs literated, I'll wear you down, but like it's you. 652 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: We're not gonna get these takes from like that much 653 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: belonger so to hear these like it warms, It warms 654 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: your heart for these to kind of make into that. 655 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: And then also just to just see the comment section 656 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: and the absolute mutants that he ate it up. 657 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy again. It's like, how how are we 658 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: getting into politics with this? Let's just let's just talk 659 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: about baseball, guys. 660 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Close it out. Who's the next player in 661 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: the Mets sign? Ooh? 662 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Next player the Mets sign? All right, I am gonna 663 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: look at MLB dot com free agents. I think it's 664 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna be another reliever. And I'm gonna say that the 665 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Mets are gonna go after the name that jumped out 666 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: to me instantly, Pierce Johnson. 667 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Peter. 668 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get too much for the Mets 669 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: right now. 670 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I that was the That was the initial name 671 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: that scrolling through relievers jumped out to me. And then, weirdly, 672 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: the other one was Pierce my guy, Josh Winkowski. 673 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: Wow Winkowski. So he's gonna be like, he's gonna fill 674 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: the Brandon Widell roles. He just got DFA. 675 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: Yes, I I get I. 676 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: Weirdly, I keep coming back to Hunter Harvey. I wonder 677 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: if this market looks like I like, everyone knows that 678 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: guy's arm is ready to explode any given moment he's 679 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: had like a rab an ankle, wrist, whatever he's had. 680 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: I think that I think that we're going to get 681 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Michael King news soon. Okay, I actually think I think 682 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: he's going to be a med I mean. 683 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: I'd be happy with Michael King. I know that's that's 684 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: your boy. I would happy to take him on this roster. 685 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: He would help out this rotation a ton, a ton. 686 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: I think if it's I think if it's a ton, 687 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: because while we're not, you really can't rely on Michael 688 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: King volume. I think that if if he's healthy, he's 689 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: going to be one of the fifteen best pitches nationally, 690 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: like we saw that two years ago. And he might 691 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: might get hurt, but that's why you might get an 692 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: ace for cheap. And I think that the Mets right now, 693 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: I want to add a wild card into this pitching mix, 694 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: like he's he's he's like his, he's a wild card 695 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: than like of a better version than Coda Sangez. 696 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: I like that. I don't know, maybe they'll sign Miguel 697 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: and or who knows. 698 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't think I can see that 699 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: would happen. 700 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: Last thing, by the way, we got nothing on Murakami. 701 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: Still nothing. I think it's someone's gonna swoop in, like 702 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: someone has to. 703 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: If I backed or into that Guardian steak out of 704 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: absolutely nowhere that was ill informed, I would be so happy. 705 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm hoping I didn't accidentally ruin the guy's market with 706 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: a bad sat and I tweeted from from bad info. 707 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: If you knew what James, everybody knew it. I'm sorry. 708 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's funny as hell. It's a I think 709 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: I think I think he's still probably gonna be good. 710 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I think we're probably over reacting to everything 711 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: that we've seen, or maybe we're not reacting enough. 712 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Like I think, No, I don't think. I mean, yeah, possibly, 713 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: Like I just think his his range of outcomes is 714 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: like Christopher Morel to Nick Kurtz. 715 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: His range of outcomes is like Joey Gallo. 716 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: Got me Joey Gallop back in the day, put together 717 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: some good off in the. 718 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Season, good seasons. 719 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. Like he's he's probably Matt Wallingerrew can't 720 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: play defense, but like he might be like there, I 721 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: don't know, if you just iron things out like a 722 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: guy would like him with elite or he's totally there's 723 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: something elite inside the moon Techa muricat and know for 724 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: a fact. 725 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: You know that for a fact. 726 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: I know it for a fake. 727 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: Got something you're a reasoning for that. I gotta I 728 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: gotta unpack this one for a second before we wrap up. 729 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he had one of the greatest seasons the 730 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: MPB history. Like that's that's it's the second best baseball 731 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: league on Earth, is better than anything we have in 732 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: the American minor leagues. Like he went out there and 733 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: he put up the first fifty homer seasons since Vladimir 734 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Ballantine's true, Like that's it. 735 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: He he did something that Vladimir Balentine's also put up 736 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: a fifty plus home run season. 737 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: Like that in the MPBA put up sixty. 738 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm just is that not scaring you 739 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: a little bit? 740 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you the floor of someone who's not 741 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: like but I still think the ceiling is someone that's 742 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: like a thirty homer power back that could be in 743 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: the middle of a line. 744 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: And he's not gonna play for the Mets either, so 745 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter. Just no probably one's seventeen though, 746 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: talking for you guys, who knows it's going to happen, 747 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: But like this, we're wearing a we're in the. 748 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Mud right now at the office. 749 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: You know what bring back Wilmer floor is? Why not? 750 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: That's my next week, get rid of the Mark Fiantos First. 751 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's it. Thank you for watching, Thank 752 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: you for listening. Make sure you subscribe to METS up 753 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And if you're listening to us, have a 754 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: podcast Spotify, Google drops the rate and drops a review, 755 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: Download and subscribe. 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