1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The Manawak Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contains 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: this is an extremely immersive experience and headphones are recommended. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Maniwak Caves, a production of iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Okay, looks like we have four deep lacerations across patients 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: abdomen just above the naval Each laceration is based approximately 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: one and a half inches apart extends about eight inches. 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: The pattern of the injury seems to be consistent with 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: maybe the patient was emulating some sort of a mauling. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: It appears that he has recreated a pattern resembling a 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: clog injury like a biting Jesus an animal attack. H 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: and the torn flesh here and appears to be fight ones. 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: He's not bleeding, He's I'm sorry what he's not bleeding. 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: There's no blood. 17 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so there appears to be no active bleeding, no 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: dry blood on the exterior. 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Of the wound. He wasn't cleaned up before being brought in. 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: He came straight from the sail. Wait a second after, 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: mister Fincher, how did you do this? I I I 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: didn't do it. What's this issue? 23 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: See here how the flesh is protruding around the tear marks, 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: pulling inward there where it should be inflamed. These kinds 25 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: aren't external inflictions. Uh, mister Fincher's decisions are imploded. The 26 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: flesh looks as though it was cut on the inside. 27 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Forget about Tyler. Tyler, that is part. 28 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: And now I'm doing mine. 29 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: But you still have work to do. 30 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: Still, and I has hell dancing, and. 31 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: I've been rejasing the steps. That's check the Samsa when 32 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 3: he was involved in the original homicide investigation. I don't 33 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: know what things you're in and stuff. If you don't know, 34 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: maybe you've blocked it out where you are allowed to know. 35 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: The beast of those to you too. 36 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 6: And it's hard to not assume the worst. Then the 37 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 6: devil has been living amongst us all this time? 38 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: Well I have news for you. He has. 39 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 6: He has been living among us, walking among us, and 40 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: he is still here. 41 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: How are you reachuling Silas? Please leave a message after 42 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: the weep. Hey, it's rich. 43 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 7: So I heard you're arrested, and I'm not sure you're 44 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: going to get out in time for another visit. So 45 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 7: this this might be the last time that you hear 46 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 7: my voice. 47 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: So listen. 48 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Because there's something that I need you to know. 49 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 8: I'm sure your visit to Solomon's place left you with 50 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 8: some questions, hopefully some context too, And I hope you're 51 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 8: starting to accept that this is. 52 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 9: Big why white? 53 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: Bigger than me and you? I don't know where to start. 54 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 8: A lot can happen in fourteen years and change the 55 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 8: whole universe can shed its skin like a great big snake. Still, 56 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 8: some things don't change. Then you again has the same 57 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 8: pattern and the scales. Only difference is it's a so 58 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 8: it's a bigger snake. When they pulled me out of 59 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 8: that room and locked me in these walls, in the 60 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 8: exact same sale where I still spend twenty three hours 61 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 8: a day, well. 62 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: Back then I had a recurring. 63 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 10: Problem and started on my very first night and it 64 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 10: didn't let up till the end of summer. 65 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 2: This is doctor Luis Gusman, chief Medical Examiner at Riverbend 66 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Maximum Security Institution. Today is November twenty sixth, two thousand 67 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: and seven. Eight fifty two AM reporting on Fincher James 68 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Doc Number one five seven nine zero six seven submitted 69 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: for examination. Following and attempted suicide. Patient was found with 70 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: deep horizontal lacerations across his abdomen. No weapon was discovered 71 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: at the scene. My initial instinct would have been self 72 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: inflicted fingernail wounds, but patient's fingernails have been clipped short 73 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: in accordance with safety guidelines. Upon further inspection, I was 74 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: able to determine that mister Fincher's wounds were. 75 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: Carved outward. 76 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: From the inside of the stomach lining to the rupture 77 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: points of the flesh, possibly through the intentional ingestion of 78 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 2: a sharp object. But at this time all X rays 79 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: have come back inconclusive. The incident in question occurred on 80 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: mister Fincher's first night in our custody. Here on death Row. 81 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: One could possibly presume that this is a stress related phenomena. Still, 82 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: in all my years treating incarcerated patients, I have never 83 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: seen injuries consistent with what I saw today, regardless is 84 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: being put on twenty four hour surveillance and I'm prescribing 85 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: a mood stabilizer, an antipsychotic, and recommending group psychotherapy commencing immediately. 86 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: I didn't mind going to group therapy. 87 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 8: I kind of liked the idea of being able to 88 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 8: have people to talk to, people to listen, even if 89 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 8: the other inmates didn't exactly share my views. 90 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, mister Fincher. Morning. Can I call you James Games? No, no, no, no, 91 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: just call me Finch? All right? Anybody need a refresher 92 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: on the rules? Yes, Neil got helpt out today. Why 93 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: do you want to do that? 94 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 11: Well, because I ain't gonna share my most fucking thoughts and. 95 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: Dealers with baby killer over there. What even doing to him? 96 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: May no name calling, mister Lukovics, mister Fincher. 97 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: They called me baby killer when I first arrived. 98 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 10: It doing it as if them boys were babies, as 99 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 10: if they had one modicum of innocence about them. 100 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: That's the narrative the prosecution sold, the judge and. 101 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 10: Jury, and it's stuck the papers, the press, they all 102 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 10: went along for the ride. 103 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 8: Too, sweet innocent angels, they said, glowing lights in the 104 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 8: dark valley, good Christian boys from humble community snuffed out 105 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 8: by a monster. 106 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 12: Me. 107 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 10: So now. 108 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm the worst of the worst, a monster of monsters. 109 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Hey, get James next time. 110 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 11: Do us all a thiev and you yourself with the 111 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 11: same respect you did those boys, you yourself, U effects 112 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 11: what he thinks his little son last night wouldn't get 113 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 11: around death rolls a small town man, worse spreads. 114 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody don't know about your shit? All right, that's 115 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: a shot. But I ain't talking. 116 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 11: About shit with this baby killing ankle here. 117 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. 118 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: And I continued on like that day and day app. 119 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 8: I'd have some terrible nightmare, rip me out of my sleep, 120 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 8: wake me up, all disoriented, sore and aching, and I 121 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 8: lift up my shirt and find a new swoop or 122 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 8: line carved into my body, never bleeding. And I didn't 123 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 8: know what it meant at first, but I always knew 124 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 8: where it came from. 125 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: And I knew I couldn't talk about it. 126 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 8: Guards did their rounds every few minutes, and they they 127 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 8: always see me carved up, even if I try to 128 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: hide it, And sure shit, I send me right back 129 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 8: to the yard to start the whole process over again. 130 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: This is doctor Luis Gusmann reporting on Fincher James Doc 131 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Number one five seven nine zero six seven. It is 132 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: the official motion of the state that James Fincher not 133 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: be moved for any special examination, and his injuries are 134 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: in fact self inflicted, and his repeated claims that he 135 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: is the recipient of some miraculous form of spontaneous scarification 136 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: or symptoms of psychosis and should be treated medically in 137 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:41,119 Speaker 2: tandem with continued psychotherapy. Since mister Fincher's arrival in this institution, 138 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: the pattern of his injuries has expanded. They have branched 139 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: off into tributaries wrapping around his entire torso the wounds 140 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: appear to be forming some sort of a pattern. Despite 141 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: my numerous requests stp nightly restraints for the prisoner, the 142 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: correction staff has either been negligent in applying these restraints 143 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: or they were somehow ineffective. I've still been unable to 144 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: determine the instrument used to cause the lesions, and all 145 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: X rays of his internal organs have continuously come back 146 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: and conclusive. I'm at a loss, and in beginning to consider, 147 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: against my better judgment, James's Steppas's belief in the miraculous 148 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: nature of his wounds. At this point, I am simply 149 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: observing napping and recording upon the several occasions in which 150 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: I've asked James to speculate us to the origins of 151 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: his injuries. He refused. When I asked what he believed 152 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: these marking to be, he simply replied cave drawings. Indeed, 153 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: what began as linear markings on mister Fincher's body have 154 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: evolved in more complex shapes, some even resembling humanoid or 155 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: animal figures. Each new wound leaves a thick and darkened 156 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: scar across mister Fincher's skin, which furthers the conceptualization of 157 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: the markings is well, drawings like a child's perhaps simple primitive. 158 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 8: They moved me out of group therapy. I was getting 159 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 8: threats and they decided it was too dangerous. 160 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: Can you believe that? 161 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 8: And yere, we live out the remainder of our lives 162 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 8: with nothing to look forward to other than our own 163 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 8: predetermined deaths. 164 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: And they decided that we all in air deserve to die. 165 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 8: And then they spend all their time up until the 166 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 8: moment of our injection, making absolutely sure that we don't 167 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 8: die by any hands set theirs. Our elimination ain't the point, though, 168 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 8: you see. It's it's not that the world will be 169 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 8: a better place without us, it's not even about justice. 170 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 13: It's all about power. 171 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 8: I suppose you probably never feel more powerful than when 172 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 8: you take a life. 173 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I. 174 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 13: Wouldn't know. 175 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 8: So they set me up with the private therapists. Now 176 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 8: you know what's bad when they set you up with 177 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 8: a private one when you're too hated or too far 178 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 8: gone to be allowed in group therapy anymore. And of course, 179 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 8: if you're bad enough to get the private quacks, all 180 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 8: the boys on the block just got that much more 181 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 8: AMMO to. 182 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: Hate you with. 183 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 8: We're all freaks here, but even in this little world 184 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 8: there's still room to point fingers. 185 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 4: If you're just different enough. 186 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: How are you feeling today, James? Better? 187 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 14: Now that's just you and me, Yeah, I guess you kiss. 188 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 14: I figure you're gonna be happy to get away from 189 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 14: the others. 190 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: They were the only company that I hate. 191 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 14: You want to tell me a little bit about these 192 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 14: new injuries, James, What do you want to know? 193 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: Well, who's causing them? If it's not you, I'm gonna 194 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: help you. 195 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 14: It's in all the medical recourse, right, Yes, and no. 196 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 14: I'd like to hear your perspective. What prompts the injuries? 197 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: Do you think? 198 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 14: Do you suffer from many dark thoughts just before they happen, 199 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 14: like anxiety depression. 200 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: It's just. 201 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 12: Not pictures you mean dreams, night MARISONA. No, just pictures 202 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 12: in my head of things that haven't happened yet. 203 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 14: So your dreams are prophetic and you're like a claar 204 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 14: VOI claar voy that the way you're looking for. What 205 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 14: makes you think these visions are going to come true? 206 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to It's not even like 207 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: they're going to happen. It's like they're already just in 208 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: the future. 209 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 12: But I'm just watching a recording or something that we 210 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 12: haven't had the time. 211 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: To see it. 212 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 12: And there's no point in trying to stop something that's 213 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 12: already happened, even if it's already happened in the future. 214 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: Okay, can you give me an example. 215 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 14: This stays between us, James, don't worry the. 216 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Recording can be used against you. What about my sister? 217 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: What about her? Can anything I say be used against her? 218 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Or how do you mean I worry about her? Out there? 219 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 12: The sister of a convicted murderer, a single mom in 220 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 12: the town that don't want her, that hates her. It's 221 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 12: about association. She can barely make against me. She can't 222 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 12: afford to move nowhere better. And Lord knows you don't 223 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 12: need nothing else to worry about, especially not the things 224 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 12: I may or may not say to you in here. 225 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 12: You privately uns it directly in dangerous life. And nothing 226 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 12: you say in here will ever leave this room. It'll 227 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 12: stays between you and me. All right, I'll trust you 228 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 12: on that, Okay. So let's take Neil for example. I 229 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 12: dreamed about Neil getting off in the showers. I think 230 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 12: yellow tiles splattered with blood. 231 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: And you believe that this is going to happen in 232 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: the future It already has, but it hasn't. 233 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 14: I saw Neil just earlier today in the group says, yeah, 234 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 14: you saw him in the now, you see. 235 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: But all the future becomes to pass eventually. There's nothing 236 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: you can do about it. 237 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 14: Are you saying that you believe that what there are, 238 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 14: that our lives, the future, it's all predetermined. 239 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 12: I'm saying it don't change nothing if you believe me 240 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 12: or not fair enough, But how do you know when 241 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 12: these dreams are going to or that they are coming true? 242 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: How do you know they're not just like any other dream? 243 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: They just feel different? Okay? They smell different. It's a 244 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: different flavor. 245 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 14: We'll have any of your different flavored dreams not come true. James, 246 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 14: You do understand how these solutions of grant are, these 247 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 14: ideas that you have a gift of being able to 248 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 14: see into the future. You see how they're potentially harmful 249 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 14: to not only yourself but also to those around you. 250 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to harm anybody, and I ain't never 251 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: Big grand. 252 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 8: Neil was killed in the showers three days later a 253 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 8: piece of newspaper shaped into a ship with toothpaste and 254 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 8: dried out till it was sharp. 255 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 10: Those are good for about three stabs before they break. 256 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: Enough to take a life. 257 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 10: Though they took my privileges away after that figured it 258 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 10: was me, of course, but they couldn't prove nothing, and 259 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 10: even if they could, what were they gonna do? 260 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: And I kept waking up with them cuts. My dreams 261 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 4: have always come true, Julian. My grandmother told me when 262 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 4: I was little, but I just thought she was making 263 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 4: stuff up. You know. 264 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 10: It just made me feel special. 265 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: You used to be in my dreams too, Julian. 266 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 10: That year after your mother passed away, that spring before graduation, 267 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 10: before the Hadley brothers were murdered. 268 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: I dreamed. 269 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 9: You were being followed. 270 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 10: At first, it was only a shadow, an empty space, 271 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 10: black hole. But that shadow started a bend and. 272 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: Stretch behind you. 273 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 10: Eventually I saw it more clearly, saw him, I mean 274 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 10: his shadow and the reflections a mirror in your house 275 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 10: or in the moon, the window in your old bedroom. 276 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 10: He was tall, pale faced, his fingers like claws on, 277 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 10: blinking eyes, snake eyes. I seen him later too, in 278 00:20:53,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 10: the caves, a reflection in the cave pools, or he's ancient, 279 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 10: older than the. 280 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: Caves, even hideous and beautiful at the same time. 281 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 10: I looked at the slits of his eyes and the reflection, 282 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 10: and I felt. 283 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 8: His his hunger and setuable, and I knew you wanted 284 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 8: to slur my soul. 285 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 9: Right out on my body. 286 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 10: But that night in the caves, when I turned and 287 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 10: I looked over my shoulder, there was nothing, just in 288 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 10: the absence, a hole would no light and go nothing 289 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 10: in that hole. 290 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 13: But sorrow, greed. 291 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 10: Hatred, and hunger, folding in on itself again and again 292 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 10: like a never in the necko. 293 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 9: But that spring, I dreamed he was following you, sneaking 294 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 9: closer and closer to you, moving in the shadows and 295 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 9: whispering in your ear. I've dreamed about you a lot 296 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 9: that summer too, after I got locked up, and he 297 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 9: was always always behind you, never letting you out of 298 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 9: his sight. 299 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 10: But one day you escaped and you flew as fast 300 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 10: as you could, straight out of town. 301 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: And after that you weren't in my dreams no more. 302 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: Luis couse Mon, December thirtieth, two thousand and seven. Oh, 303 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: James Spincher. 304 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 13: Today. 305 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Today was the first day since November twenty sixth, but 306 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: this year that I did not receive a visit from him. 307 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: I can only speculate an over enthusiasm and his self 308 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: harming measures that have finally gone too far, or perhaps 309 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: some medications are taking hold. Let's hope for the latter. 310 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 8: So after that everything stopped, No more dreams, no more scars. 311 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 8: The world just settled into kind of normal, well death 312 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 8: row normal. And I found out later that day that 313 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 8: you you're gone, left from this place, away from your father, 314 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 8: away from your youth, away from caves, away from him 315 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 8: for good, or so I hoped. Next day I got 316 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 8: a visit from an unexpected guest. 317 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 13: Morning, James, good morning. You know who I am here. 318 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 13: You're the minister, Reverend Reverend Perkinson, you go to the 319 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 13: chapel this morning, James, how can you ever expect to 320 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 13: be forgiven if you don't ask for forgiveness? 321 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 4: Because I ain't got nothing to be forgiven for. 322 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 13: Here's the thing about that. 323 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 15: We all have stories, we tell ourselves, we all keep 324 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 15: our own narrative, but only God knows for sure. Now 325 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 15: the state, the state has determined your guilt, and so 326 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 15: by the laws of man here you sit. But still 327 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 15: you never confessed, James. It doesn't matter what you tell 328 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 15: the world, or even what you tell yourself. God knows 329 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 15: the truth. And even though your body may be imprisoned 330 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 15: here in this institution on death row, your soul can 331 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 15: still be saved. James. 332 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: Did you know that? 333 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: James? 334 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: Man? You are something special, ain't you? 335 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: What's in it for you? 336 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 13: Me confess? 337 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 8: In one way or another? They are able to try 338 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 8: or to put me away. They're fixing to kill me 339 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 8: for it. You got your way. So what exactly are 340 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: you doing here? 341 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: River? 342 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: What do you want? 343 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 15: If we confess our sins? He is faithful and just 344 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 15: to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from 345 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 15: all unrighteousness. John one nine mm hmm. 346 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 8: Well, John, he don't know fuck all about Manowell count. 347 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 16: I'm not going to deceive you, James. 348 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 15: I want to put this to rest, for this community, 349 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 15: for the Hadley family, for your family too. What if 350 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 15: I told you that there was some upset. Not in 351 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 15: my town I have you, but in the bigger city 352 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 15: is a few towns over here in Nashville, down in Atlanta, Charlotte. 353 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 15: Turns out there's some folk who don't know screw all 354 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 15: about the good people, the possible, who have some misgivings 355 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 15: about your trial. And they got your TV personalities and 356 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 15: your news channels all talking about it. They want the 357 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 15: world to believe you are a victim. And I'll tell 358 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 15: you what, I don't want nobody talking about it no more. 359 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 15: They're making me and mine look bad. 360 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: Well, and my heart is over here breaking. 361 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 15: Now you listen to me. I need you to think 362 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 15: real hard about delivering me a confession. It can't do 363 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 15: nothing but help all the parties involved. Were you to 364 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 15: do so, for me the outsider, stop agitating, casting doubt, 365 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 15: making people worry. And for you, well, God will see 366 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 15: that you're taking care of God will forgive you. 367 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 13: James. 368 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: I'm good. Thanks for stopping. 369 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 8: By fifteen years ago. It was the first time Perkins 370 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 8: came at me with a bride confessed to a murder, 371 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 8: asked for forgiveness. Even if the people won't forgive, Jesus 372 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 8: Will said, I could still save my soul. I was 373 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 8: hoping that you getting out of this place would save you, 374 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 8: to somehow save you from what the rest of us 375 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 8: were suffering. I thought, maybe that's why the dreams had 376 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: stopped and the cuts. But now you're back, and I 377 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 8: see clear that was just all wishful thinking on my part. Anyway, 378 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 8: You think the bribes would have stopped years ago. Ain't 379 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 8: nobody interested in the case no more? But then you 380 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 8: came back home, and it's like you woke it up again. 381 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: Even me. 382 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 10: I woke up in my sail last night, the middle 383 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 10: of the night, pitch flaxxcept for the fluorescent lights bleeding 384 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 10: from the hall on the other side of the bars, 385 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 10: and I knew I wasn't alone. 386 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 9: He was back. 387 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 10: I saw the snake eyes reflected in the dull metal 388 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 10: mirror that's bolted to the cinder block above my toilet, 389 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 10: his pale face. 390 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 9: Catch you a sliver of flight that was bleeding from 391 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 9: behind the bars. 392 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: He was in the sail with me, and he touched 393 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: my shoulder. 394 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 16: He spoke, and his. 395 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: Words slithered in my ear. He knew what I wanted, you, 396 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: what I was most afraid of. 397 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 9: And he knows that I'm helpless to do anything for 398 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 9: my family. 399 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: I'm helpless to ensure their safety. 400 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 14: Of prosperity for the future. 401 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 10: And he goes the whole town hates them and fears them, 402 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 10: and he said he can make it better, make it 403 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 10: so Dina and Jimmy will be all right. 404 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: Guarantee their future and allow. 405 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 8: Them prosperity in their lives, provide them every opportunity for 406 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 8: their well being. 407 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: He made me an offer, and all he wanted in return. 408 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 10: My soul. 409 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 15: I need to put this thing to rest for good 410 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 15: and final. 411 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 10: I'm so sorry, Reverend. Ain't nothing that you can give 412 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 10: me that I'm interested in. 413 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 13: Oh I don't think that's true, son. 414 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure shit. 415 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 8: Reverend Perkins showed back up here this morning, damn tape recorder, 416 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 8: clutching his bony ass fingers, and he upped his bargain. 417 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 15: I've been paying extra special attention to your family these 418 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 15: past several years. They ain't doing so hot are they 419 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 15: Dena's still working her fingers to the bone for below 420 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 15: minimum wage, can't manage to get herself up and out 421 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 15: of her situation. Her boy, what's his name, Jeremy, Jimmy, Jimmy, 422 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 15: They said, Well, Jimmy can't seem to stay in school, 423 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 15: real problem child, been expelled, arrested more than once. Everyone's 424 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 15: putting bets on Juvie for that one. See, it turns 425 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 15: out your family ain't no better off than you. 426 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: Shut your fucking mouth. 427 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 13: But I can change all that. I can help your family. 428 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 13: I can bring them from. 429 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 15: The shadows of scorn, ridicule and deliver them into the 430 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 15: light of goodwill and hope for a more prosperous future. 431 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 15: I can personally see to it that Dina has better opportunities. 432 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 15: I can sift through the deep pockets of the church, 433 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 15: start a fund to lift her out of her pathetic life. 434 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 15: Can get a job, find a place to live that 435 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 15: has insulation and running water. And Jimmy. I can baptize 436 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 15: Jimmy in my very own church. I can see that 437 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 15: our church embraces them, welcomes them into our tight community. 438 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 15: I can do more for them than you could ever 439 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 15: dream of. 440 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 13: Doing. 441 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 16: I can save them. 442 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 15: I can save their poor souls and yours too, James, 443 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 15: yours two. All I need from you is three little words. 444 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 16: I am guilty. 445 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: Well, I say, the Lord works in mysterious ways. Well, 446 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: got nothing on the devil. I guess this message is. 447 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: It's a warning. 448 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 17: He's coming for us now, all of us, Me and 449 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 17: you and Tyler. 450 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 18: I swear I heard every bit of that message when 451 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 18: I got out of holding and finally got my phone back, 452 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 18: But when I tried to play it, it wasn't all there. 453 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 18: This was all that was left on the voicemail. 454 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: Hey, it's rich. 455 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 7: So I heard you arrested, and I'm not sure you're 456 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 7: gonna get out in time for another visit. So this 457 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 7: this might be the last time that you hear my voice. 458 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 7: So listen because there's something that I need you to know. 459 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 7: I guess this message is. It's a warner. He's coming 460 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 7: for us now. 461 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: Oh other was me and you and Tyler. Well he's 462 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 3: already dead. 463 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 5: The ghosten Emuir in the Hounds of Hell Dancing and. 464 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: You The Manwalk Caves stars Jonathan Tucker as Julian Sallace, 465 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: Eddie Gatheggy as James Fincher, Clark Peters as Detective Solomon Smith, 466 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: Nick Cercy as Sheriff Kirby Hooper, Justin Welborn as Tyler Wilson, 467 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: Jill Jane Clements as Jill Campbell, Brad Carter as Dooley Tappert, 468 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Scott Poythus as Reverend Perkins, Samantha Ashley as Dena Fincher, 469 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Justin Matthew Smith as Paul Sallace, Tara Oakes as Laura Sallace, 470 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Horn as Deacon Hadley, Alden Karanovich as Thomas Hadley, 471 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: Mike w Anderson as Griff Washington Body, Walter Off as 472 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fincher, Brian McClure as Ian Spinks, Larry Clark as 473 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: Bobby Hadley, Peydon Fallis as ed leablanc Vic Palisis as 474 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: William Fowler, Nick Diakosky as Richard Rydell. 475 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 4: And Aileen Loy as The Darkness. 476 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: With additional performances by Clint McGown, Dina Dill, Edward Howard, 477 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Henry Foster Brown, Jamie Joseph, Juan Monsalvez, Christopher Curry, Bailey Heineman, 478 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: David Mitchell, and Bernard Sataro Clark created by comin Byrne 479 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: and Dan Bush. Written by Dan Bush, Zoe Cooper and 480 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: Nicholas Dakoski, featuring our theme song Killer Inside, written produced 481 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: and performed by Lera Lynn. Our executive producers are Matt Frederick, 482 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: Alexander Williams, Michael Monty, and Courtney du Frees. 483 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 13: Our executive producers. 484 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: At Blumhouse Television are Jeremy Gold, Chris Dickey, and Noah Feinberg. 485 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: Produced by Dan Bush, music by Ben Lovett, additional music 486 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: by Alexander Rodriguez, Edited by Dan Bush, Chris Childs, Stephen Perez, 487 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: and David Chen. Sound design by Benjamin Malcolm. Additional sound 488 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: design by Alexander Rodriguez. 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