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Speaker 1: with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: How the hell are we feeling here on this Monday morning?

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Speaker 3: Good man? Good what up?

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Speaker 4: Sticks out? What?

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Speaker 2: What a game last night?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, that was a game. That was That was

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Speaker 5: What a colossal gag job by the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: It was a little uh yeah, it was a little

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Speaker 3: gag job.

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Speaker 5: That's just especially when it's a team that ended your

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Speaker 5: season a few months ago and you're like, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're going to make a statement. They were in total

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Speaker 5: control of that game, total control, and the fourth quarter

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Speaker 5: happened and next thing you know, it was just a

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Speaker 5: comedy of airs for the Baltimore Ravens, who ended up

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Speaker 5: coming up short again to the Buffalo Bills. But that

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Speaker 5: was a hell of a game and a hell of

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Speaker 5: a way to close up the first Sunday in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I thought it was a very very

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Speaker 6: exciting day outside of the obviously the obvious being the

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Speaker 6: first real week of NFL football. I just I felt

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Speaker 6: like coming away from some competitive games, some teams looking like.

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Speaker 3: Some really good teams that it's still I hate.

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Speaker 6: I hate to do this because if it was your

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Speaker 6: like this kind of takes away from it a little

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Speaker 6: bit from me, not from anyone else. You keep it

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Speaker 6: the way you want to keep it. But it's it's

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Speaker 6: Week one, and I almost feel as though because of

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Speaker 6: the way preseason is played and there's not a there's

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Speaker 6: not a.

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Speaker 6: I would say game legs, there's not a true level

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Speaker 6: going to play that first team because you're really not

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Speaker 6: sure what these teams are going to come out and

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Speaker 6: do wrinkle wise and personality wise for the season plays,

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Speaker 6: you know, so to speak, what is the new trend

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Speaker 6: that that coaches are going to have within their playbooks.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a hard week to judge, I really do.

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Speaker 6: It would be premature and irresponsible for me to say

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Speaker 6: this is a good team or this isn't a good

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Speaker 6: team based upon yesterday's results. But at face value, I

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Speaker 6: thought it was. It was a good opening day for

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Speaker 6: the NFL for well.

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Speaker 5: An example of that was last year Week one, the

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Speaker 5: Patriots beat the Bengals and New England was awful and

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Speaker 5: fired their coach and went through that whole circus they

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Speaker 5: went through and then ultimately hiring Mike Rabels. So you know,

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Speaker 5: like you just yeah to your point, you look back

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Speaker 5: at Week one results, you know, in retrospect, and you realize,

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Speaker 5: all right, what really were we discussing or breaking down

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Speaker 5: or what really what did that result actually mean?

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Speaker 2: The one thing I know is that.

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Speaker 5: Buffalo and Baltimore, those teams are good, and it feels like,

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Speaker 5: much like they met last year in the postseason, that

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Speaker 5: this may be an opportunity to see them play twice

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Speaker 5: again this year. Josh Allen, the winning side of things,

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Speaker 5: the quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, the reigning MVP, talked

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Speaker 7: Everybody there, I'm just proud of our team for staying

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Speaker 7: down fifteen points whenever we were with five six minutes left,

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Speaker 7: you gotta play this game for sixty minutes. And that's

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Speaker 7: that's a really good outfit that we just played. And

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Speaker 7: you know, God willing we we take care of business.

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Speaker 7: How we're supposed to and how we think we will.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's probably a team we'll see again. So

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Speaker 7: you know, they're they're a great lea coach team. Hats

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Speaker 7: off to them for having a really good game plan.

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Speaker 7: But you know, gotta were stuck in there and I'm

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Speaker 5: Why are fans leaving the stadium? So it's the last

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Speaker 5: year for that stadium. You should enjoy every second you

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Speaker 2: The hell? Else is going on in Buffalo?

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Speaker 4: Some we.

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Speaker 3: It's this thing called work that people have to go

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get a life, you know, get a get a

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Speaker 6: Yep, that's exactly right, that's exactly where so that that happens.

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Speaker 6: You know that that's a part of things. So if

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Speaker 6: But and I thought it was like maybe, like is

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Speaker 5: No I don't, and that's funny. Yeah, And so I'm

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Speaker 5: glad that any of those Bills fans that wanted to

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Speaker 5: of Famers everywhere, final year of that stadium, with all

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Speaker 5: You're not a real member of Bill's mafia. You phony ass.

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Speaker 8: What I'd say about that is this was probably those

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Speaker 8: might be the best game we see all season, at

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Speaker 8: least in the regular season. Yeah, it had literally everything

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Speaker 4: The star power.

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Speaker 8: You know, you obviously have two guys who've been League

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Speaker 8: of just I would say luck, like like luck played

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Speaker 8: so many things that went into that. Even the story

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Speaker 8: signed there this week, he just signed there. The whole

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Speaker 8: could write. And it's week one Sunday Night football. It

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Speaker 8: You know, Washington, New York. The score looked more out

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Speaker 8: But all in all, I mean, just an incredible day

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Speaker 4: And what what a night man that was.

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Speaker 8: That was unbelievable, Like that was one of the craziest

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Speaker 8: endings and turnarounds. I do have a bone to pick though,

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Speaker 8: at some point about some decision making by Sean mcdert, though.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's say, what's the what's the issue?

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Speaker 8: So two times this happened in the game, and it

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Speaker 8: there's probably some people out there who are gonna try

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Speaker 8: go for two, you can kick pat. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 8: quite as much because what they did in that in

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Speaker 4: They didn't get it. Now that puts you down nine, it's.

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Speaker 8: Two possessions later, after that long Derek Henry run, they'

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Speaker 8: down forty to twenty five. The next touchdown they get

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Speaker 8: kick the pat. Why because you don't want to be

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Speaker 8: because of how that game's going like that.

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Speaker 8: I'm like especially a defensive minded head coach, I don't

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Speaker 8: but that for some reason it bothered me because well, no,

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Speaker 8: like you shouldn't change your decision making to extend it

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Speaker 8: to like a point where you have to have a

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Speaker 8: last thing I'll just say is this and this LeVar

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Speaker 8: Chris Collins Hath said something that I'm sit there thinking, like.

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Speaker 4: Chris, you know this isn't true, Like why are you

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Speaker 8: He's like, well, you know, Buffalo's trying to adjust to

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Speaker 4: You know, he's being so dominant.

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Speaker 8: I was like, Bro, you know that's not why a

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Speaker 4: Dude, they're playing nickel. They had nickel, they had Dine package.

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Speaker 8: Out there, like they needed to play more base personnel,

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Speaker 8: Handing it off to Derrick Henry letting him run all

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Speaker 6: You know, you looked at it that way, but listen

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Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there like, man, I ain't never seen

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Speaker 6: that's not common to see that. But they were manhandling

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Speaker 8: Is it fair to say this is a preview of the

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Speaker 5: Home so and you know they I thought about this too.

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Speaker 5: How many times do we talk about, well, you know

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Speaker 4: Give me those reasons.

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Speaker 8: You never get that same sort of intensity, that same

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Speaker 8: know it's a best a seven series Like that's what

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Speaker 8: that's got it. I couldn't disagree more like, that's what

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Speaker 4: Mind, is you get one shot at this, that's it.

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Speaker 5: The Ravens have got to be kicking themselves just thinking

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Speaker 2: We've got a.

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Speaker 5: Two score lead, everything's going our way, and it was,

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Speaker 5: like we said earlier, a comedy of airs that led

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Speaker 6: The Lamar put his hands on one of the fans.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he was letting y'all know this

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Speaker 4: This for real out here.

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Speaker 3: You know when Slam tests out here.

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Speaker 4: You know, I did find it interesting.

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Speaker 8: Collinsworth had to bring up the Mark Andrews drop and

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Speaker 8: he's going, you know, you know what, He'll forget about that.

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Speaker 4: Never, It'll be with him forever. He's just gonna play

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 8: It's like, I mean, he might think if they never

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Speaker 3: It's rough.

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Speaker 4: I will say this too quickly.

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Speaker 8: I feel like maybe they got away a little bit

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Speaker 8: And that's the reality of any big back like him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you want.

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Speaker 4: You had no shot, so you kind of have to.

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Speaker 8: And the problem is is if you combine Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 8: it's man to man, there's no safety help. And Lamar

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Speaker 8: I'd say you're Baltimore Ravens fan, You're fine. I mean

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Speaker 8: I mean, this team is loaded and I think they're

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Speaker 8: Championship Game. I just I sit there and like wonder,

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Speaker 8: they looked maybe they're just further ahead of everyone else,

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Speaker 8: but they look better than Casey, they look better than Chargers,

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Speaker 8: they look better than the Bengals. I don't know who

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gonna get carried away. That's that's all

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Speaker 3: I just that's to me.

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Speaker 6: That's the first thing that was my first conclusion is

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl Ravens. I got the Ravens, winn't it.

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Speaker 8: So you're not trying to sticks damn right, you're not

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Speaker 6: They look good. But you know, I assume they're going

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Speaker 6: But I don't know, like Pittsburgh. No, No, something got

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Speaker 3: You could least that. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, I know the air is different here in

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Speaker 4: And hey, I'll to tay you this much. A little disappointed.

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Speaker 8: I know they pitched to shut out you know, scored

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Speaker 6: It was like they didn't want to show anything and

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Speaker 6: are you like, are we doing ball control here?

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Speaker 3: You know, like let's give them some let's give the

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Speaker 3: fans some.

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Speaker 6: Excitement, like like let's go ahead and like let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's get up and then be a little bit

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Speaker 6: more conservative. But I don't know, I you know, I

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Speaker 6: reserved my judgments on that. They did end up pulling away,

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Speaker 6: but it was a very very slow start.

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Speaker 8: Super you think they're saving it because they've got I mean,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to show anything versus Villanova next week,

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Speaker 8: but then they've got a bye in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Then they got in that white out. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's like I said, coming into week one,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know if you were on to hear this,

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Speaker 6: but coming into week one, I think that's what a

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Speaker 6: lot out of NFL teams had to deal with with

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Speaker 6: one another. We don't really know from the preseason what

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Speaker 6: you're going to get. You know, you get to know

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Speaker 6: the personnel, but you don't really get to know what

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Speaker 6: the plays, what, what the trends, what what the new formations,

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Speaker 6: what the new wrinkles, what what those are going to be.

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Speaker 6: Everybody has to start getting that on film and then

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Speaker 6: you're going to start to see who's who and what's what.

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Speaker 4: Baltimore, Yeah, one one to bet they're pretty damn good.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but it'll

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Speaker 6: be better games, I would assume, or at least you're

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Speaker 6: going to. I'm not going to say better games because

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Speaker 6: they were. There were some really good games yesterday. Just

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Speaker 6: I think there's going to be a different there's going

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Speaker 6: to be different outcomes for different teams moving forward.

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Speaker 5: all weekend long on Fox during the football season. He

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Speaker 5: football rules analysts. You can get him on ex at

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Speaker 5: Dean Blandino. Dean, thanks so much for joining the show.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 9: Sea less seats celebrity. I kind of feel like I'm

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Speaker 9: somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, don't say that, dude, don't say that.

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Speaker 3: Dean Controller is famous.

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Speaker 6: You know the what was it, Yeah right, the Xbox Xbox. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: there you go, to Xbox Controller. There you go, Dean.

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Speaker 6: I want to lead off with all.

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Speaker 8: What I think everyone's like wants to know is what

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Speaker 8: exactly happened that Dallas Cowboys does.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, it wasn't. There was a lot of spitting.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm just just saying, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 9: it's it's crazy, kind.

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Speaker 4: Of like dak is what you're saying.

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Speaker 9: I get you, yet exactly, I.

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Speaker 8: Guess I'll seriously segue into that. In your mind, did

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Speaker 8: it warrant a suspension or she excuse me, an ejection

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Speaker 8: because I felt like the ref really didn't know the

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Speaker 8: full deal of what was going on there.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, at least in my experience, there's really

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Speaker 9: been three automatics in terms of ejections, and it's it's

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Speaker 9: like something involved with like out you know, non football,

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Speaker 9: right fighting, you punch somebody, kick somebody, stomp, you know

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Speaker 9: that type of thing. Intentional contact with an official and spitting.

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Speaker 9: It's just always been and the officials have the leeway.

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Speaker 9: The rulebook talks about personal fouls and all that and

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Speaker 9: fifteen yard penalties, but if it's flagrant, it can be

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Speaker 9: an ejection. And then spinning has always been, when you

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Speaker 9: talk about on sportsmanlike considered flagrant because you just somebody

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Speaker 9: spits on you. That's like utmost disrespect. And what happens

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Speaker 9: after that, they're kind of you know, it escalates. So

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Speaker 9: you know the official, Yeah, you can get into did

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Speaker 9: Dak instigate it? That whole deal, But I think in

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Speaker 9: a vacuum, there's no quot look jailing Carter spit on back,

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Speaker 9: official saw it. It's pretty pretty standard procedure that point

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Speaker 9: that he's got.

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Speaker 2: To go, what's the worst you've seen that you've witnessed?

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Speaker 2: Like this is I can't believe I just watched that.

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Speaker 9: Oh I don't, you know, it's yeah, I remember some

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Speaker 9: of those like the one. It wasn't the worst, but

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Speaker 9: I remember Steelers spangles playoffs when with Joey Porter getting

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Speaker 9: in the getting in the huddle, and then there was

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Speaker 9: a whole big thing, you know, uh, you know, we

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Speaker 9: we had who was great by the way, but we

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Speaker 9: had Endomik and Sue come in. You know, remember he

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Speaker 9: he had a little thing, you know, he had maybe

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Speaker 9: a little little little temper issue, but he was, you know,

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Speaker 9: stomping on guys. And he actually came into the league

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Speaker 9: office and we met and I went through the plays

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Speaker 9: and he was so like you just thoughtful and went

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Speaker 9: through it all and and it was just like, this

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Speaker 9: is the guy that's out there, you know, killing people.

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Speaker 9: But you know there's been some over the years, but

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Speaker 9: you know before my time. I mean, there's always the

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Speaker 9: famous one one h who was at Green Bay when

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Speaker 9: he when he got the quarterback who was man, that's

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Speaker 9: right then he just I mean that that happened today.

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Speaker 9: Could you imagine what the suspension would be.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, And that's pretty interesting to think about.

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you you this, Dean, I mean, coming

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Speaker 6: into this weekend, this week's UH round of games. Obviously

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Speaker 6: you know the Eagles played before the weekend, but the

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Speaker 6: touch push is still legal. It's still able to be

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Speaker 6: used and was used, and it was used by multiple teams,

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Speaker 6: which I found to be very interesting.

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Speaker 3: What what was your stance on it?

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Speaker 6: And what's your take on do you think that this

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Speaker 6: is since it got shot down to not be removed

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Speaker 6: this past offseason? Is it is it just a play

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Speaker 6: that's here to stay or do you see it becoming

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Speaker 6: more of a safety issue. Haven't seen any or heard

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Speaker 6: of any real major injuries taking place, But what what

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Speaker 6: was your stance on it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean person. I don't love the play just

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Speaker 9: there's so many it's it's a hard play to officiate,

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Speaker 9: you know, you see that, it's just so many bodies

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Speaker 9: you're trying to find the ball. I don't think it

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Speaker 9: necessarily Legals do it. Great, Great for them, it's within

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Speaker 9: the rules. But this, this had been illegal forever, you know,

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Speaker 9: prior to you know, or early early two thousands. I

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Speaker 9: mean that that was two thousand and five, two thousand

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Speaker 9: and six. It had been illegal because it's just you

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Speaker 9: think about, think about from a defensive side of the ball, right,

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Speaker 9: if you if you if you hit the hit the

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Speaker 9: running back and you stack them up and you drive

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Speaker 9: him backward, right, you're not gonna you're not gonna lose.

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Speaker 9: They're not gonna lose all those yards. Right, You're gonna

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Speaker 9: get forward progress. But on the offensive side, we're gonna, okay,

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Speaker 9: we're going to allow the offense to gain that advantage

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Speaker 9: and push them maybe three, four five yards whatever it is.

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Speaker 9: So I don't love to play. I don't think. Look,

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Speaker 9: there's no injury data that says that it's a more

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Speaker 9: dangerous play than other short yardage plays. I do know

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Speaker 9: the health and safety people at the League Office don't

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Speaker 9: love it, and they kind of feel like there is

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Speaker 9: there is a risk for for head and neck injuries

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Speaker 9: and other things like that. I think at this point

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Speaker 9: it's gonna probably two things. Maybe if you don't win

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Speaker 9: a Super Bowl, then there were I know there were

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Speaker 9: a lot of teams that didn't want to vote it

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Speaker 9: out last year because it would have felt like sour grapes.

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Speaker 9: You know, they're really good at it. They won the

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Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I think if there's a if there's a

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Speaker 9: you know, knock on wood. Hopefully there isn't, but if

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Speaker 9: there's like a catastrophic injury, I think that it'll come

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Speaker 9: up again. I think the conversation will we'll we'll kick

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Speaker 9: up again and they'll start talking about it well.

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Speaker 8: And that's like my issue with it is it feels

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Speaker 8: like the NFL is always reactionary and instead of you know,

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Speaker 8: being proactive about like getting rid of something that it

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Speaker 8: looks like a rugby play, Like, let's be honest, and

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Speaker 8: if you look at the injuries that.

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Speaker 4: Occurrent rugby, it's mostly neck injuries.

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Speaker 8: People think that because they don't wear helmets, that like

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Speaker 8: it's a lot of head injuries, it's mostly neck because

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Speaker 8: of the way you know that they then do in

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Speaker 8: those scrums, the way they use their body. You know,

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Speaker 8: they don't put their head into a tackle oftentimes because

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Speaker 8: you know of again not having helmets to do so,

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Speaker 8: so it ends up being the neck that takes the

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Speaker 8: brunt of it. I want to transition though to the

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Speaker 8: kickoff rule because we've seen a huge uptick in kickoff returns,

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Speaker 8: so clearly, you know, giving a team of the ball

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Speaker 8: in the thirty five is having its impact. But when

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Speaker 8: they made this change, did they ever look at just

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Speaker 8: saying let's just move back the kicker to.

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Speaker 4: Kick off the ball.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they did. They looked at two things, so I

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Speaker 9: think year one they didn't know what it was going

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Speaker 9: to you know, what the numbers are going to be,

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Speaker 9: Where it's the drive start going to go to, how's

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Speaker 9: it going to impact scoring? And then most importantly, what

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Speaker 9: are the injury date they're going to look like? It

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Speaker 9: was all positive, right, Scoring was up, right, The drive

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Speaker 9: start went from like the twenty five to almost the thirty.

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Speaker 9: Touchdowns were off field goals were off points per per game,

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Speaker 9: points per drive that was all up, and the injury

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Speaker 9: data was it was the lowest, but twenty twenty four

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Speaker 9: was the fewest concussions they've had, you know, ever that

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Speaker 9: you know, in recent memories, since they've been really recording

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Speaker 9: them the way they're doing now. So they said, okay,

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Speaker 9: we're going to make it permanent and let's let's increase

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Speaker 9: the returns. So with the two things, they said, move

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Speaker 9: the kicker back to the thirty and or move the

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Speaker 9: touch back to the thirty five, and they decided to

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Speaker 9: just go with the touchback. And you know, through week

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Speaker 9: one it's over seventy percent. That's a that's a huge jump.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's back to the numbers back in

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Speaker 9: the day when the kick return was was a big

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Speaker 9: part of the game. So, you know, I think they'll see,

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Speaker 9: you know, look at it another year and if they

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Speaker 9: want to the numbers are all positive, maybe they keep

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Speaker 9: it as is or but the thirty was definitely in

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Speaker 9: the conversation, but they decided not to do it this year.

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Speaker 5: It's Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna mention on the kickoff.

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Speaker 5: It seems like every off season we're having a discussion

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Speaker 5: about a new tweak or change to the kickoff. Do

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Speaker 5: you and I hope they never get rid of it,

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Speaker 5: because I think it's how you start games. I think

653
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Speaker 5: it's it is football to me, that's how you know

654
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Speaker 5: a game is about to go, it's about to kick off.

655
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Speaker 5: Could you ever envision a world, though, to where they

656
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Speaker 5: just say, yeah, you know, what.

657
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Speaker 4: Is it?

658
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Speaker 5: How much do we really need this and let's just

659
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Speaker 5: let's go ahead and just move on from it. Do

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Speaker 5: you think that that that's been kicked around or is

661
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Speaker 5: there been discussions about do you just get rid of

662
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Speaker 5: it altogether? I hope that never happens. But could you

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Speaker 5: see the league overreacting to a point to where they

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Speaker 5: make that move?

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Speaker 9: Well, it was getting close prior to this change, it

666
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Speaker 9: really was. There was a lot of people that were

667
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Speaker 9: just like, hey, the injuries, it's it's so much higher

668
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Speaker 9: than other plays, you know, play some scrimmage things like that,

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Speaker 9: So let's just put the ball in twenty five and

670
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Speaker 9: go or pick a pick a yard line and go.

671
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Speaker 9: But I think with this change, and this was a

672
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Speaker 9: drastic chase, I mean think about it. This is like

673
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Speaker 9: people look at this. I mean, we did this in

674
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Speaker 9: the XFL. I was a part of that back in

675
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Speaker 9: twenty twenty and it's different. I mean, and so there

676
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Speaker 9: was some you know, some kind of hesitation in terms

677
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Speaker 9: of do we want to make this type of change.

678
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Speaker 9: But to your point, Jonas, it's like they wanted to

679
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Speaker 9: save the play ultimately because it is it's part of

680
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Speaker 9: the fabric of the game. I mean, we used kickoff

681
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Speaker 9: all the time as NFL kickoff, and that's how the

682
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 9: game starts. And the most exciting play I ever saw live,

683
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Speaker 9: one of the most exciting plays was with Devin Hester

684
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Speaker 9: returning the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl. I mean

685
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Speaker 9: that's and so I think ultimately they wanted to save

686
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Speaker 9: the play. And I think this has I can't see

687
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Speaker 9: where the injuries are. I can't see it, you know,

688
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Speaker 9: all of a sudden, just going going to a level

689
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Speaker 9: where the health and safety and then people get together

690
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 9: and say we got to get rid of it. So

691
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Speaker 9: I think they have saved the play.

692
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Speaker 6: Dan, you watch the games from a different level, a

693
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: different understanding. I wonder what what were you seeing during

694
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 6: the games that you know you put into your notes like, oh,

695
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: that's something to focus in on, that's something to discuss

696
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 6: that maybe us that don't have the same eye of

697
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: looking at the game the way you're looking at it

698
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 6: would would be able to see.

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Speaker 9: Yeah for me, you know, I always and I think

700
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Speaker 9: you guys probably know this as well. Like the first

701
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 9: couple of weeks. It's a football not great like like

702
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Speaker 9: and I think not great meaning no, I mean, you're right,

703
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 9: you know when you're when you're talking about how when

704
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 9: we get into like we gate nine. Now, now this

705
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 9: is like we're playing NFL football and everybody's kind of

706
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 9: everybody's kind of you know, firing on all cylinders. But

707
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 9: it's like nobody plays in the preseason, right, so and

708
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 9: it's and so what see you're going You see a

709
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 9: lot of like formation stuff, You see a lot of

710
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 9: pre snat penalties and things like that, and they things

711
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 9: they got to clean it up. I mean I did.

712
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 9: We did the Washington Giants game on Sunday, and there

713
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 9: was just a lot of stuff that that you know,

714
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 9: these guys aren't playing together as much. You know, practice

715
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 9: is practice, but you can't simulate that that that real

716
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 9: game feel and speed and everything else. So it's just

717
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 9: you know, and last year was was there were there

718
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 9: were six pre snap penalty like formations and false starts

719
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 9: and offside those types of things six per game, which

720
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 9: was the most since two thousand and five. So it's

721
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 9: it's just cleaning that stuff up. So you notice a

722
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Speaker 9: lot of it, and some of it is just officials

723
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 9: don't don't call. So even for the officials, you kind

724
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 9: of they're not in mid season form. So it's just

725
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 9: like that that side the first couple of weeks. It's

726
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 9: just almost like extended preseasons.

727
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Speaker 4: M a serious question.

728
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Speaker 6: Nope, sorry, good no, no, I just say I totally

729
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 6: agree with that, but go go to you.

730
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Speaker 4: It's a serious questions one that I think needs to

731
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Speaker 4: be answered. We're seeing a lot of dildo is being

732
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: thrown on the courts. I mean, at what point, Dean

733
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: is is this thing to get out of hand? Someone

734
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: gets struck by one, or like what's the punishment? How

735
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 4: is that going to handle this?

736
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Speaker 8: Are the officials who's supposed to pick it up? Do

737
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 8: you pick it up by the end? Like which end

738
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 8: you pick it up?

739
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Speaker 9: I always know when Brady says this is a serious question,

740
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 9: how unseious it's going to be. But there is there

741
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Speaker 9: is a there is a dedicated official on each crew

742
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Speaker 9: that is responsible for the dildo. It's not it's not

743
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Speaker 9: the same position per crew. They'll they'll dedicate whoever it is, like, Okay,

744
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 9: you know, Tony, it's you today, and uh and yeah,

745
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 9: I mean to me, I think you pick it up

746
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 9: by the shaft. I think that's just means that's.

747
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: A good point. That's a good point.

748
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Speaker 9: If you're going to throw it to you know, whoever

749
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 9: it is, the ball, the ball boy, whoever it is.

750
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Speaker 9: You know, no pun intended. You want to just you

751
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 9: want to just you know, kind of.

752
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Speaker 4: Get the shaft boy.

753
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 9: Now, oh god, exactly you brought it up right.

754
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Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean, Dean, do you do you look

755
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: at somebody differently if they volunteer to be the guy

756
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 5: to go pick up the dildo on the curve?

757
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 9: Yeah? You definitely, you definitely like those guys are like,

758
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 9: you know, the crew, the officials are. Those crews travel

759
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 9: together every week and they're together that that's like your family,

760
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 9: you know, your extended family. So you start to learn

761
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 9: things about people, what they do behind closed doors. And

762
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Speaker 9: sometimes it's not pretty.

763
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Speaker 4: I told you we have a lot of fun to

764
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Speaker 4: get them on a.

765
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Speaker 6: Does that ever travel to to the NFL Hall of

766
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 6: Fame as as like, you know, first object of its

767
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: kind to to venture onto the field.

768
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Speaker 9: It's yeah, I mean, it's we're seeing it. I think

769
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Speaker 9: the w n b A had a little problem more

770
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Speaker 9: so than the NFL. But man, it's I don't know

771
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 9: what the who goes to a game and brings a dilda.

772
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 9: It's like I got my like, you got your you

773
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 9: got your right, you got your you know that you

774
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 9: got the BUILDO yea, we can't forget that.

775
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: What a wild time to be alive.

776
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 8: Huh, oh my god, you're the best. I had some

777
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 8: other questions for you, but we don't have enough time.

778
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 5: So he is Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and College

779
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: Football rules analyst, always appreciate, uh, a few minutes of

780
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: your time.

781
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun ride this year, Dean.

782
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 8: Thanks man, you got it, guys, sir, question I said,

783
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 8: I said, hey, when if you want to come on,

784
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 8: just know we're gonna ask a few questions about the

785
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 8: rules and then we don't want we don't want our

786
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 8: listeners to get like bored, so we're gonna have some fun.

787
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

788
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and

789
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m.

790
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: Eastern three am Pacific.

791
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: So we do have traditions here on this show, and

792
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 5: one of those involves this man.

793
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Speaker 2: He's the old p on X.

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Speaker 5: He is Petros, Papa Vegas, the co host of the

795
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Speaker 5: Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the

796
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Speaker 5: Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports Fox College Football Analyst.

797
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: Good morning, p How are you?

798
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: Good morning to you? Good morning everybody. I'm okay. There

799
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: he is there he is, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello hello,

800
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Speaker 4: almost like a Timmy be impression. Petros. Oh, the toad

801
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: tapping Timmy B. That's right, that's right, the one only

802
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: you know how the toe top? I think that's his. Uh,

803
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: that was his nickname back in the day.

804
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, do you know how to toe?

805
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Speaker 4: Petros? How do you get that nickname? No, I don't believe.

806
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: I believe because he has nervous legs.

807
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Speaker 3: Nervous legs, Petros, Yes, I'm here. Do you seem like

808
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 3: when you were a player you were kind of.

809
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Speaker 6: Like tough, hard nose, nasty, you know, like fight you

810
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 6: and all that good stuff. You know, scratch you try

811
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Speaker 6: to get the upper hand. Would you, I mean, would

812
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 6: you have happened to ever have uh let one go

813
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: out of your mouth into another player at any point

814
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 6: time and you're.

815
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I wasn't a Saturday day. No, I

816
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: mean not purposely. You know. I am a mouth breather,

817
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: or I was for me, I'm trying not to be.

818
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: But I'm a mouth breather too for something.

819
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my tongue is too big for my mouth, and.

820
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so your big tongue, you big tongue, dude, like.

821
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Speaker 4: Big and flaccid, and uh so my tongue. Yes, my

822
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: tongue is too big for my mouth. And I'm a

823
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: mouth breather. And I I have a lisp, which is

824
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: a little bit odd for a radio personality. But uh

825
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: so all of those things lead to me spinning when

826
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Speaker 4: I talk, but not on purpose.

827
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Speaker 3: Okay.

828
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: I always had a hard time talking much on the

829
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Speaker 4: football field with the mouthpiece in and just being able

830
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: to watch you do sound like when you try to talk. Sure,

831
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 4: you know like that.

832
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Speaker 6: So the spin going for so long, like you know,

833
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Speaker 6: I haven't won a spit was going down your chin

834
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 6: like I don't.

835
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Speaker 4: Know, like I'm just I am, I'm very It's been

836
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: a long, long time since I played football, and I

837
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: still work in football, and I'm around football, and I

838
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: am expected to talk about football at the drop of

839
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: a hat at all times. But I think that, I mean,

840
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: I remember.

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: Now, what's that You're into other things now?

842
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Though?

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00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's been twenty you know, twenty eight

844
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: years or something, twenty five years since I looked through

845
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: a face mask, So I mean that's a corner, imagine,

846
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: corner of a century. So I will say this. When

847
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: I got done playing football and got into the media,

848
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: I really felt like I was just an old football

849
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: player acting like a media member or put on a facade.

850
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Speaker 4: And then after a few years of that, I felt

851
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 4: like a media member acting like an ex football player

852
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: whenever anybody asked me about what the right things to

853
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: do were as far as a football player goes. But yes,

854
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: it's it's it's good to remember.

855
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Speaker 6: And you went and shame somebody and tell them that

856
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Speaker 6: you know you never played, You would you wouldn't do that.

857
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: I mean, what the way some people talk about the

858
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: sport having never played is obvious, I guess, but I

859
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: don't think it's nice or prudent to point out on

860
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Speaker 4: a panel show or or or really anywhere. I mean,

861
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: because that line got very blurred. I mean, there used

862
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Speaker 4: to be a time where analysts analyzed because they were

863
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: ex players or coaches, and the play by play people

864
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Speaker 4: didn't do as much analysis, And now everybody does analysis.

865
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Speaker 4: You can be a football analyst just showing up, and

866
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Speaker 4: I guess it's the same thing for me. I mean

867
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Speaker 4: when am I a short yardage tailback and I'm talking

868
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: about all kinds of other stuff in football because I'm

869
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: a quote unquote football analyst. So it's yeah, it's it's

870
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: a very blurry line in today's day and age, and

871
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: it's changed a lot since I got done playing. But

872
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: I never I've never respected when somebody sits there and says, well,

873
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: that guy sucks, and it's like, okay, well, being a

874
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 4: second string quarterback on an NFL football team, that guy

875
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: doesn't suck. The circumstance of football, I think, and how

876
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: many moving parts and how many people are out there,

877
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 4: and what's actually happening and the reason behind everything, and

878
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: most importantly, whatever level you're at, if you're out there

879
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: with the helmet on, just how quickly things happen out there,

880
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: Things happen out there in literally the blink of an eye,

881
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: and you can either be right or wrong. But people

882
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: will analyze what happened in the blink of an eye

883
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 4: for hours and hours and sit there and think about

884
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: it and say, well, you should have done this, you

885
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: should have done that, without really realizing the just the

886
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: fleeting nature of the moment and just how bad things

887
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 4: can go in a very very short time as a player.

888
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: And then people will sit back and say, well, this, this,

889
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: this and this and this, and it's it's that that

890
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: part of it is a little bit disconcerting, I guess,

891
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: and we're talking about non players and players just how

892
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: quickly things happen out there. And then the other thing

893
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: that people I don't think understand is, and it's very

894
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: hard to wrap your head around unless you are an

895
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: ex player or been in a facility and watch people

896
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: come and go and and live that life like football

897
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: players do or coaches, is that the circumstantial nature of

898
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 4: football is probably the biggest It's kind of like, Okay,

899
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: there's a defense out there with guys like LeVar, and

900
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: as the new word to call guys like LeVar on

901
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: defense is creatures, you know, they had some real creatures

902
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: on that side. Of the ball, and there's all kinds

903
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: of people that are really tough as hell, but nobody

904
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: out there hits harder than the ground. The thing that

905
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: cancusses everybody most of the time is the ground. I

906
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: mean not to say that that's happens every time, but

907
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: nobody really talks about that. And it's kind of the

908
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: same thing with circumstance and football. Circumstance is most of

909
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: the time the biggest dictator of what actually happens ness.

910
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: You can be a diligent person and live your life

911
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 4: and persevere and fight through it, and football is full

912
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: of great stories like that. But since you're asking me

913
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: a philosophical question, I'll give you more of a philosophical answer.

914
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 4: I've seen so many players, as I know you guys

915
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: have even more that were better than the guys that

916
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: were celebrated and great, but because of something in life

917
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: a girlfriend grades problems, inability to overcome something, we never

918
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 4: saw them featured like they should have been as great players,

919
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: just because that's how it is. Sometimes the best football

920
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: players most of us have ever seen didn't play that much,

921
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 4: or there's a reason something happened. You know, they got

922
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 4: hurt badly and things of that nature. Quarterbacks get picked somewhere,

923
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: and if they would have got picked somewhere else, they

924
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: would have had a fifteen year career somewhere if they

925
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: if they got picked this place, it was like a

926
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: two year career, and now they work at enterprise renta car,

927
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: which could have very easily happened to Brady Quinn. I

928
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: mean Brady Brady, Tom Brady, So I mean Brady Quinn

929
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: athletic specimen.

930
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: You know, he was graft.

931
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: But so I think that's one thing that maybe escapes

932
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 4: the non players of the world. And of course I'm

933
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 4: not talking about Pete Schrager, who we know and used

934
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: to work with at Fox, but the non players of

935
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: the world. I think the circumstance of football sometimes escapes

936
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 4: people and they think, well, this guy's a great football player.

937
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: He's obviously going to have an NFL career. It's not

938
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: that way, and I think most of us that have

939
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: been inside the sport have seen it not work out

940
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: for so many people, and we understand why, and that

941
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: is a little bit I think that's it just is

942
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: not logical, it's not linear for people to understand. Sports.

943
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: Fans are people that looking at a football team from

944
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: the outside and and they don't understand the abstract nature

945
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: of Wow, look at all these weird little plinko chips

946
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: that had to fall for this guy's career to go

947
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: this way. It's maybe it's a little too weird of

948
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: an answer.

949
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

950
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that there was such an uproar over it, Like,

951
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 5: and I understand Ryan, Well, I think it's just that guy.

952
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: You know, that guy says something people off every week

953
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: and then he has to come back and apologize.

954
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: I look at it like this.

955
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: And we were talking about a little bit earlier, and

956
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 5: I told them, like, if they were to ever, if

957
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: Brady or LeVar were ever to.

958
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: Say, hey, you didn't play the game, you wouldn't know.

959
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be offended by it. It's true, Like, there

960
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 5: are elements of that that I don't.

961
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 10: Know and I will never be you played line a thousand, Oh,

962
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 10: it wouldn't that you guys didn't have a complex blocking. No, No,

963
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 10: I did not play line maybe one time in pri

964
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 10: but I just unnecessary.

965
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: I wouldn't know.

966
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't but I wouldn't know.

967
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: I thought he was I thought he was a tackle. No,

968
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: definitely not.

969
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, tackle all the way, but.

970
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: On the perimeter.

971
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sorry, man.

972
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead.

973
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: I just I think that the problem is I think

974
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: that the problem is people more so in my position

975
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 5: and who either didn't play or played just at a

976
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: high school level and nothing beyond, are really sensitive to

977
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: that part of the argument because there is no response

978
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 5: to it.

979
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 2: You're right, I didn't play.

980
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: Like there's an element of football at the college and

981
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: NFL level that you guys know that nobody listening outside

982
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 5: of people who did it will know.

983
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: And there's some people that just get really offended.

984
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: By that Adam unnecessary flex.

985
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 4: I think a big part of Adam Matt yes, and

986
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: and and in the moment, it was super unnecessary and

987
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: very disrespectful. And obviously that guy has got his own

988
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: brand going and he makes a lot of money doing

989
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: it wearing that broach, So go do your thing. I

990
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 4: guess he showed up at a friend of mine's funeral,

991
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 4: so that was nice of him. But other than that,

992
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 4: I do think that people football has always been an

993
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: outside in sport, right, no matter what you do, even

994
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: if you are an ex football player, even if you're

995
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: Joe Montana, Yes, you can show up and analyze a game.

996
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 4: But unless you're really in somebody's facility and you really

997
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: know why they're doing there's a reason people do everything

998
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 4: on the football field. There's a reason every play is called.

999
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: There's a reason everybody's out there one reason or another.

1000
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: There's always a reason. It might not be a good reason,

1001
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: it might not have worked out, it might have looked

1002
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: really bad after they called the play, or whatever, what

1003
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: have you, But there's always a reason. And unless you're

1004
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: in somebody's building and in their meetings all week and

1005
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: all that, the truth is you really don't know. So

1006
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: most of us are just kind of guessing in that

1007
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: regard and giving educated guesses based on your experience, based

1008
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: on your meetings, based on what the coaches have told you.

1009
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: But sometimes that reasoning is not the truth, and sometimes

1010
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't work out. So that part of it is

1011
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 4: a mystery. And I think, what, there's never been more

1012
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: interest in the sport of football ever, but there's never

1013
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 4: been less understanding of what it's like to play and

1014
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: what the people that play are like and the sacrifices

1015
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: that they make. Now, why is this? Why is there

1016
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: more interest? And twenty four hour shows with Mina chimes

1017
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: telling you what's going on with the South Korean flag

1018
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 4: behind her and her set? You know. I mean, there's

1019
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: so much, there's so much analysis, fantasy football shows, everybody

1020
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 4: with their hot takes, the new YouTube channel on two

1021
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: Pros and a cup of Joe comment, tell us if

1022
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 4: you like our takes, you know. So there's never been

1023
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: more interest, But I do think it's a very it's

1024
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: a weird irony because there's never been more interest, but

1025
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: there's never been less understanding. Right. It felt like when

1026
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: I was younger, people that were interested in football understood

1027
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 4: the sport more. So why don't they understand the sport

1028
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: like they used to in a personal way? And I

1029
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 4: think it's because a video games of Madden and stuff

1030
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 4: like that, where the players never get tired, things of

1031
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: that nature. Fantasy football, which is a fantasy You're not

1032
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 4: picking a team, you're picking individual players in a team sport.

1033
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 4: From what I understand, I do a lot of fantasy

1034
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: football commercials, but I've never actually done fantasy football ever,

1035
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: So I think that helps dehumanize it. The fact that

1036
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: most players are faceless. You know, we know what Tom

1037
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: Brady looks like, but beyond that, you know, you know

1038
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: what Joe Burrow looks like and Josh Allen maybe, but

1039
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 4: most players in the league are not very identifiable by

1040
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: their face, and that's because guys wear helmets. So I

1041
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: think that there's and all of these shows that just

1042
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: kind of talk about it without really knowing about it

1043
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: or without really digging into the human side of it.

1044
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 4: I think that we we've kind of lost touch of

1045
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: the person inside the pads in some regard, other than

1046
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: knowing what arch Manning looks like when he's going to

1047
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: the bathroom. Yeah. On that note, did you see the

1048
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: clip of him throwing yes, yeah, yeah, I did. It

1049
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: look like he was wincing in pain. I don't know,

1050
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 4: I you know, I mean people cover the team, you know,

1051
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: it's I think that I think that he went out

1052
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: and had the game he had against Ohio State. We

1053
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 4: talked about it, and there's going to be scrutiny, you know,

1054
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 4: probably through September, and we'll see how you know, That's

1055
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: that's how it goes. If you play great in your

1056
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: first game, everybody's on top of you. If you don't

1057
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: play so good, then everybody's on top of you in

1058
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: a different way. So here's the thing. Is there was

1059
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: a rumor that he was playing.

1060
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: A little bit banged up.

1061
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: I remember that, and I reached out to someone I know.

1062
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 8: He said, yeah, he's been taking like fifty percent of

1063
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 8: the snaps in practice. So that's all they would say.

1064
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 8: I don't know the extent of what's going on. Clearly

1065
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 8: they want to keep it, you know, behind closed doors.

1066
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what you know, you're going to the bathroom.

1067
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: Do you what if we ever cross paths and that

1068
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: did that clip?

1069
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: Clip?

1070
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? I saw the clip. But that's why I'm asking

1071
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 4: the wind clip, the Sarks clip.

1072
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 8: Yes, Petri, we played it yesterday. Okay, good, we've got

1073
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 8: We wanted us to play it again for you.

1074
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: No, I just I wanted. I just I didn't know

1075
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: that you saw the clip. I thought you might laugh

1076
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: or something. Go ahead and make it.

1077
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 8: You know, this is this is why I'm asking you,

1078
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 8: because you know Sark and it feels like you got

1079
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 8: a little cagey about people asking about the health of

1080
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 8: Arch Manning, when in reality, I don't know any of

1081
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 8: the quarterbacks who throw a football, And as soon as

1082
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 8: the bulls getting ready to leave their hand, they're already

1083
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 8: making a face like this.

1084
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: Hurts, Well, I don't know what you look like when

1085
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: you go to the bathroom. Okay, moving on, I mean,

1086
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't understand the answer, you know, I didn't.

1087
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, it looks like your quarterback was in

1088
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: pain there. Did he tell you that? Well, no, but

1089
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 4: you know it kind of looks like that, and he

1090
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: sort of threw it like uncle Rico, I don't know

1091
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: what you look like when you go.

1092
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: To the bathroom. He did defensive there.

1093
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: I think deep down, people that know Steve Sarkisian know

1094
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: that he has a bad temper and that he will

1095
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: mother He's not as bad as he used to be,

1096
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: but he will mother f anybody's mother. You saw him

1097
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: freak out against that guy in the tunnel. That was

1098
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 4: just the get back TV production guy that you know

1099
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: was trying to like talk on a headset and hold

1100
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: a team back. And next thing you know, sarks like

1101
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 4: barking in this face.

1102
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 5: Was he was he more enjoyable to be around when

1103
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 5: he was drinking on the sidelines?

1104
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 4: Well, I do remember, I don't know if he was

1105
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: ever drinking. I will say this, the stories about Steve

1106
00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: Sarkisian at Washington make whatever happened at USC look like

1107
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 4: a trip to Disneyland. Really yeah, And that's why when

1108
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: he left I don't know if I've ever said that

1109
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: on Arab, but when he left Washington, the people at

1110
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: Washington like through a party, They're like, you're kidding me.

1111
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: USC hired this train wreck out from under US, and

1112
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: now we get to go hire Chris Peterson and we

1113
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: can't believe our good fortune. I mean, that was really

1114
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: the vibe in Seattle, overwhelmingly, and it lasted quite some time.

1115
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: And you know what, it reminds me a little bit,

1116
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: guys of USC. You know how USC has played what

1117
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: Missouri State and Georgia Southern and they've scored like two

1118
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: hundred points and they're flexing on social media and everybody's

1119
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: all geeked up and all that. It reminds me of

1120
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: twenty fifteen when Steve Sarkisian had USSE and everybody's talking

1121
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: about how talented they were and how many weapons they had.

1122
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: And in the first game, I think they played Idaho

1123
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: State and put up a bunch of points. In the

1124
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 4: second game, they played Arkansas State and put up a

1125
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 4: bunch of points, and everybody was saying, Wow, this USC team,

1126
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 4: they're a sleeper and blah blah blah, and then Christian

1127
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: McCaffrey came to the coliseum and ran all over him.

1128
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: And then the Chris Peterson team, with a freshman quarterback

1129
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: named Jake Browning and a freshman running back named Miles

1130
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: Gaskin came down on a Thursday night or a Friday,

1131
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: I think it was Thursday night and beat USC. And

1132
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: then two days later Sarkesian had an episode of some

1133
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: kind of was fire. So it reminds me a little

1134
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: bit about USC this year, you know, playing a couple

1135
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: of very very undermanned opponents at home, and now all

1136
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're going to go to Purdue. I

1137
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: don't know how good Purdue is, but conference road games

1138
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: are hard, and conference first road game of the year

1139
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: that is a conference game is especially hard. So it

1140
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: does remind me a little bit of that. But was

1141
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 4: sark more fun? Yes, you know. We would have him

1142
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: come out to radio shows and people be like, I

1143
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: can't believe it. He hung out all night with us,

1144
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, great, you know, and maybe now

1145
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: you look back, it's not so great, not such a

1146
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: great thing. But I will say this, I never walked

1147
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: into the bathroom to see what he looked like. I

1148
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: took pictures of whate who's going to the bathroom? Right?

1149
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: So what.

1150
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 5: I did want to ask you this because in the

1151
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 5: NFL they've adjusted the kickoff yet again, and you'd, being

1152
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 5: an old school football fan yourself, somebody who partook in

1153
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 5: the kickoff. The fact that we're seeing an uptick in

1154
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: kickoff returns and the plays all of a sudden alive again,

1155
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 5: it's got to warm your heart a little bit as

1156
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 5: a throwback football fan.

1157
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I mean, does the NFL are

1158
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 4: we talking about the NFL? Yeah? Yeah, Does the NFL

1159
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: kickoff still look weird to you guys?

1160
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah it doesn't look but at least fort.

1161
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 4: Tow, Yeah it does look weird. But yeah, it looks

1162
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: like less people are being exploded, like you know, like

1163
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: by a mortar it used to be. But uh but yeah,

1164
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I don't. The kickoff to me

1165
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: is kind of a wash. I was on the kickoff

1166
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: team and the kickoff return team. I was the wedge

1167
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: and the wedge breaker, and I mean, I hate to

1168
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: admit it, but I would just pray that our game

1169
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: was like nothing nothing, so all I had to do

1170
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: was do it twice, you know, and uh, you know

1171
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: at halftime at the wedge buster, Yeah, I just wanted

1172
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: to do.

1173
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: It too, and then I would go to over to wedge.

1174
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 6: If you was in the wedge when I was coming

1175
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 6: to get it, Petros you but.

1176
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: What if I was holding hands? But if I was

1177
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: holding hands with the guy next to me, then we

1178
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: would be I was.

1179
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 6: I was coming after every last one of y'all. I

1180
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 6: came after every single person that was in that way age.

1181
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: The worst part about you kickoff is that you have

1182
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 4: like forty seconds. Used to have like thirty seconds to think,

1183
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 4: not that long, you know, but a long enough thirty

1184
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: yards to like run down and listen to your pads

1185
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 4: click and clack, to just think about it, like why

1186
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 4: am I doing this? Why am I running this fast

1187
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: to this kind of destruction? But here I am.

1188
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: I was grunting.

1189
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 6: I was grunting and trying to pick up as much

1190
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: speed as I could to hit y'all.

1191
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: That's what I was doing the whole way down.

1192
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 4: And I do have to say unload. I don't think.

1193
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if I know. Brady played a little

1194
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: some linebacker at the high school level. But I don't know.

1195
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if you did that. He's got a

1196
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 4: good head for it.

1197
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: But thank you.

1198
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: But I didn't know. I mean, the first I heard

1199
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 4: that arch Manning could have been beat up. It was

1200
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: two weeks ago when we were your head he's projecting.

1201
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, Brady. I think we should do honest

1202
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 4: size hat you wear. Let's let's you know what. It's

1203
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 4: not just the hat bra you were eight. I've seen it.

1204
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: I do not feel like I put a bucket on

1205
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: my head, don't you, Bruce bochy me. I'm you right now.

1206
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: My head might be tall, might be big on the top,

1207
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 4: but your head comes down around the bottom like a horse.

1208
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 4: But Brady was the first person to mention that arch

1209
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: Manning could have some shoulder problems to me when we

1210
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 4: were on the air two weeks ago, you know, because

1211
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: of course you guys were all up there and all that,

1212
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: and uh, and so I that was the first I

1213
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 4: heard of it. So when I saw him throw the

1214
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: ball and WinCE like you said, uh, I was not

1215
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 4: as surprised as maybe some others because I had heard

1216
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 4: it from from you here ju Bro's and a cup

1217
01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 4: of Joe.

1218
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 8: Ask you quickly, just the transfer portal. Why do they

1219
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 8: complicate this and make it so hard?

1220
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 4: I think the corner system versus the semester system. I

1221
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: think a lot of the reason that college football is

1222
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: so weird and so great is because all of these

1223
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: places are so different. I mean, you're asking Stanford to

1224
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: play in the same world as Arizona State, you know,

1225
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 4: same league for a while, you know, and you walk

1226
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: on campus in those places and they're just you know,

1227
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: Northwestern and Alabama. You know, you walk around and they're

1228
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 4: just so dramatically different. And pro football, I don't think

1229
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 4: is like that. You know, pro football, anybody's game and

1230
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 4: anybody's facility could really be anything. Places have personality and

1231
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 4: teams have personality, but it's not just so entrenched in

1232
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: the past and tradition and the area and the personality

1233
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 4: of those colleges dictate the sport in a way. So

1234
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 4: everybody goes to college at a different time. Everybody has

1235
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: I mean, we just expect everybody to be in the

1236
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: same pot, which is awesome, but I think it also

1237
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 4: makes it complicated. It's unfortunate. I think, not just the portal,

1238
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: but once the season starts, you don't want to talk

1239
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 4: about it too much, and you don't want to talk

1240
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 4: about you know, this team's in il as, this compared

1241
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: to this and that, like Gundhy and Dan Lanning were

1242
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 4: doing it last week. And now that we have games

1243
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 4: and everybody understands that everybody's getting paid, let's just play

1244
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: the games and celebrate our sport. Because the offseason is

1245
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: too long and filled with too much bs. But why

1246
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 4: do they make it complicated? Because everything in college football

1247
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 4: is complicated and stupid.

1248
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: It is Petros. We always appreciate what game you got

1249
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 5: this weekend?

1250
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: I have I got to go to Logan, Utah. You

1251
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: guys ever been to Logan No, no insurance to anybody? Yeah,

1252
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: you've been here Utah no Logan. Yeah.

1253
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 8: I feel like you drive by Logan to go to

1254
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 8: to be provo.

1255
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I've been to promo. I've been

1256
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: to promo. I've done games. I've never been to Utah State.

1257
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 4: I've done games, but I've never been there. I've been

1258
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: to Salt Lake City a bunch of times, obviously to

1259
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 4: see the utes and Kyle Winningham's team. He's never not

1260
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 4: been the coach.

1261
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

1262
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 4: Since I've been to Salt Lake and then uh, Provo

1263
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: obviously is BYU. But I've never been to Logan, which

1264
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: is supposed to be a nice place, so it's not.

1265
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 4: You know, they're people in Utah. Everything seems like relatively

1266
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: close to Salt Lake City. It's not like, uh, everything's

1267
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: like forty minutes in some direction.

1268
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: They got you back on the road again.

1269
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 4: Nice this week, I am yet next week I don't

1270
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 4: know if I will be all right.

1271
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate it.

1272
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 4: Air force versus Utah.

1273
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, date you love, and they'll be watching that.

1274
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 4: And uh, by the way, you will not opposite. It's

1275
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: the opposite direction of Provo. It is north. Yeah, it's not.

1276
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 4: It's not. I have no idea about the geography in Utah. Well,

1277
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: i'll send you a photo, Brady, thank you. I gotta

1278
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: be fair. I don't know either me. Hey, make sure

1279
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 4: you trying to fig your big head. Your big head

1280
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: in there, right, We'll see if they let me on

1281
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 4: the plane with it, they might make me check it.

1282
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: Your thick tongue ass act like your head's not big, Brady, Fine,

1283
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: I didn't go look at the not true. It's not

1284
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: true what they say. Hey, go to the bucket store.

1285
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: I get yourself a hat. They're a bucket store around here.

1286
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 4: I'll help you get your head dry.

1287
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 5: Get him on hecks at the old P. Petro is

1288
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 5: here on Box More Radio.

1289
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.