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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where

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Speaker 1: we're always breaking house rules. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio with my friend Patrick Claybond

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Speaker 1: and for the first time in person, Yes, the host

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Speaker 1: of the podcast Breaking House Rules with Cam Wolf and

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Speaker 1: Javon Holland. It's NFL Networks, Cam Wolf.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that intro, Greg, that was well done.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. To get you on my side,

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Speaker 1: just give you the plug right off the bat. You

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Speaker 1: got one of those like player and reporter type pods.

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Speaker 1: How's this going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the thousand, right, No, it's great, it's great.

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Speaker 3: It's been going great. The Dolphin season is not going great,

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Speaker 3: so that's that's been a challenge to get through that

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Speaker 3: on our end, but it's challenged us to like create

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Speaker 3: different deeper conversations that are just uh not just what

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Speaker 3: happened to the game this week? You lost again with

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Speaker 3: you know, So it's been a great experience showing different

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Speaker 3: sides of Javon player media and a week ago, I'm

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Speaker 3: Dre who's a fan.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, ultimate, ultimately it's the people, right Besides, like

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Speaker 4: you know, you could be a certain a certain TV

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Speaker 4: show or podcast and have a certain guest on every

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Speaker 4: single week and have them say crazy stuff and then

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Speaker 4: like eventually as the team goes to three and eight,

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Speaker 4: they become irrelevant. Ye, it's not fun, but if you

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Speaker 4: can have a person that the people can connect with,

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Speaker 4: there we go when's losses like whatever, like we want

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Speaker 4: to hear what you and Javon thinks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's what we've done the last

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Speaker 3: month and it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can check that out on YouTube and obviously

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Speaker 1: as a podcast too. And we're all about getting the

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Speaker 1: best people here too, that's why we're The numbers are

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Speaker 1: through the roof on Patrick Clayband Review Wednesdays. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna go any deeper though, Like you said, you have

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Speaker 1: some deep conversations and now we're sticking strictly to the

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Speaker 1: surface level. Today we're going all through the week fifteen

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Speaker 1: games and look, the buys are done. So this is

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Speaker 1: as full a show as we have had since Week four,

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Speaker 1: and we usually go from the closest point spread to

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Speaker 1: the biggest, but I decided to start differently this week

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Speaker 1: because I think the structure of this week is so unique.

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Speaker 1: The five best games this week are all four to

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Speaker 1: twenty five on Sunday on the East Coast. That's four

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Speaker 1: of them, and then the Sunday night games. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with those five games, starting with the four

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Speaker 1: to twenty five. It's crazy that four of the biggest

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Speaker 1: games for the entire rest of the season in terms

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Speaker 1: of playoff percentages are all going to be at the

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Speaker 1: exact same time. It is going to be Scott Hansen

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Speaker 1: and football fan Nirvana around it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and for those who don't have access to NFL

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Speaker 4: Red Zone, we do a little show Game Day Live,

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Speaker 4: sorry Sunday as it's okay, that's so great.

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Speaker 2: It's okay.

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Speaker 4: You know if financially everybody might not be there, and

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Speaker 4: so we provide an opportunity, which I love. It's a

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Speaker 4: great show highlighting are after opportunities, and we will start

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Speaker 4: with the game of the week. Potentially there's two. There's

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Speaker 4: two very good cases. I'm interested to see how you

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Speaker 4: guys would stack these. The Buffalo Bills coming off their

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Speaker 4: the Lions, who were favored about two and a half.

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Speaker 4: They over under fifty four and a half. Jim Tony

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Speaker 4: and Tracy on the call, Greg, we have seen this

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Speaker 4: Bills team at their best. We have seen them play

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Speaker 4: their best on offense, have a rough game against Stafford

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Speaker 1: Lions team, great Lions team and possibly getting healthier. So

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell announced Wednesday who could be returning, and in

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Speaker 1: surmise that they're all gonna end up playing this week.

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Speaker 1: So suddenly that defensive line, which was in tatters for

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Speaker 1: Bills they want to bully you. They go heavy personnel

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Speaker 1: news this week for breaking that Bill Belichick story, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this game. This is the game of

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Speaker 3: To me, people were talking about Super Bowl preview, but

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Speaker 3: We see this Bills team every year where they're very good.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if they're great. Even at a description

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Speaker 3: there you're talking about the Lions being great Bills. They

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, right, And so I saw how they played

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Speaker 3: a perfect bounce back opportunity for them adversity wise, because

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Speaker 3: now if they've clinched the division, there's not a lot

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Speaker 3: So this is a creative level of adversity. I actually

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the overnumber. It's the highest of the week.

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of points in

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Speaker 1: I agree, I think it's a mismatch when both teams

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Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 3: But I am particularly eager to see Josh Allen face

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Speaker 3: And I actually think it's going to be through Josh

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Speaker 4: It's it's Josh somehow, right, And I believe in terms

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Speaker 4: And so it comes down to I think the issues

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Speaker 2: Ours is a Mons. They are sb ours book.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to translate for the audience out. They

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Speaker 4: all credit to the Bills where they get into an

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Buffalo, although you would hope, you know Toron

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Speaker 1: I'm not going off of them. I have a hard

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Speaker 1: the Lions. According to Football Outsiders or rather Aaron shots

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of things that big picture that kind

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Speaker 3: the NFC Championship versus in Detroit. I know there's a

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Speaker 3: But Detroit in the seventy two degree climate versus you know,

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Speaker 1: And at this point, the Bills have to hope for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and an opportunity at a bounce back.

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Speaker 4: They got kind of embarrassed, especially on the defensive side

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Speaker 4: That's the Philadelphia Eagles, five and a half point favorites

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Speaker 4: Rinaldi on the call cam. We have seen this Eagles

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Speaker 3: So I'll say this not just Eagles fans, this is

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Speaker 1: This is just I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm a hardcore Phillies fan. Hart who are

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Speaker 2: This is who we are as people.

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Speaker 3: It's just never a happiness, you know, It's just it's

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Speaker 1: You kind of live in one now. Miami they're not

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Speaker 3: I think, Philadelphia, you win by twenty points, why didn't

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Speaker 3: just do not throw the ball enough. Jalen Hurts has

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Speaker 3: I think, just like everything, we're gonna get a squeaky

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Speaker 2: This was loud enough, especially.

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Speaker 3: When you got Brandon Graham coming in talking about even

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Speaker 1: He didn't take it that far back. Actually, I thought

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Speaker 1: They're human beings, like relationships, whatever it is. His take

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Speaker 3: Clearly as something. It's not just a made up media sensation. Now,

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Speaker 2: Who who knows?

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Speaker 3: And feel like Donovan may Nabb and t O doing

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Speaker 2: Is still hot this week?

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's that level, but I do

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Speaker 3: think there is something to the fact of Jalen is

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Speaker 3: I'm sure as well. But AJ wants his wants his

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Speaker 3: it isn't an Aj Brown thing. It's a the receivers

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Speaker 1: You know? Because I don't think you think it's good enough.

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Speaker 1: I assume Jalen Hurts is not happy with the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Their passing game is declining. If you look at their

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Speaker 1: Do you buy your theory back?

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Speaker 3: I think some of the thing as a quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 2: Back or say we're winning.

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Speaker 3: Without you turn the ball over, We'll deal with the

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Speaker 4: I think you have to try to hit the ceiling

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Speaker 2: You're throwing the ball. Bad things can happen.

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Speaker 4: But what we've seen Jalen make plays throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: He's not the type of quarterback that you have to hide.

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Speaker 4: the reason that I'm confident in the Philadelphia Eagles is

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Speaker 4: If there's no George.

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Speaker 1: Pickets and he's doubtful, he's basically not playing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, doubtful from Mike Tomlin, like pre Wednesday, Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 4: Nobody's having any issues waking up because the afternoon, this

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Speaker 1: A lot of them.

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Speaker 1: how they all end something like this. This game is

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Speaker 1: so fascinating because these two teams are kind of the

437
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 1: AFC NFC equivalents of each other. They are really uneven.

438
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Speaker 1: The Chargers, like they got the quarterback and they got

439
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: the defense, but the offense just not consistent, not explosive enough.

440
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 1: The Bucks, they got the offense, they got the play caller,

441
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Speaker 1: but they don't really have the defense right now. They

442
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: don't really have the quarterback right now either. If you

443
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Speaker 1: could switch a couple of the little pieces here, like

444
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Speaker 1: you put Herbert on the Bucks, you might be going

445
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Speaker 1: to Super Bowl or something like you get the Chargers

446
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Speaker 1: defense to the Bucks, you might be going to the

447
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But Baker, and this is where I don't

448
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: know if you're lucky. I don't want, you know, if

449
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't see the Bucks game as closely on Sunday

450
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Speaker 1: and then see it later in the week, because I'm

451
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Speaker 1: going to bring the fire.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: He's falling apart a little bit right now. Like last

454
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Speaker 1: four games, five touchdowns, four interceptions, eight fumbles. I do

455
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Speaker 1: not think he played that played well on that last game,

456
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Speaker 1: and it's been against some bad competition. So it's kind

457
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Speaker 1: of been the bad Baker under the radar because they've

458
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Speaker 1: mostly been winning. They've been won three in a row.

459
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Speaker 1: But you can't do that against the Chargers, or this

460
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: game won't be close. The Chargers will win it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting with Tampa Bay because they may win

462
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Speaker 3: ANFC South just by default. But I don't think they're

463
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Speaker 3: playing at anywhere near the level that they were playing

464
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Speaker 3: at last season. And you know, I know they had

465
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Speaker 3: some injuries to receivers mid season, but it just felt

466
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Speaker 3: like whenever that happened, the chemistry of the team just

467
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: kind of shifted. To me, I think the health of

468
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Speaker 3: Bucky Irving is going to be a big factor in

469
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Speaker 3: this game. He's been really a big core of their offense.

470
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Speaker 3: I know they ever Shot White and Sean Tucker as well,

471
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Speaker 3: but when he went out last game, you definitely felt

472
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Speaker 3: a shift, a difference in there. I know he's been

473
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Speaker 3: dealing with the you know, the kind of the core injuries,

474
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Speaker 3: and they said he may be okay to play through it,

475
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: but to me, he brings a level of intensity, a

476
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Speaker 3: level of an attitude they need for that offense to

477
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Speaker 3: have success against the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the injury status for a couple of rookies in

479
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Speaker 4: this game, Bucky Irving for the Buccaneers and Lad McConkey

480
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: being there the Chargers beat the Chiefs. In my opinion,

481
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Speaker 4: if he's able to play consistently in that game, you

482
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Speaker 4: having to rely on Josh Palmer and Quentin Johnston so much,

483
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Speaker 4: and it was a different Bucks team. Like the resurgence

484
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Speaker 4: of Bucky Irving was kind of what rescued this offense. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 4: when Baker had things started to go wrong late late

486
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Speaker 4: in the season, and so it makes it a very

487
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Speaker 4: difficult pick. But Greg, we do return back to that

488
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Speaker 4: legendary Thursday night football game where Baker Mayfield saved his career.

489
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Speaker 4: It was there in Sofi Stadium. Oh good, he's been

490
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Speaker 4: vibes and the friendly confines. If this is an opportunity

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Speaker 4: for Baker to stick it to.

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Speaker 1: You, he's not sticking it to me either, because he's

493
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Speaker 1: I think Liam Cohen is doing a great job cooking

494
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Speaker 1: up this offense. They start really fast, so he'll have

495
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Speaker 1: stretches of games and when it comes down to the

496
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Speaker 1: end of games. I keep repeating myself, but it happened

497
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Speaker 1: again last week. Granted it was against Raiders. He's played

498
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Speaker 1: very well in the last seven eight minutes of games,

499
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Speaker 1: and that's what you want. I gave Gina Smith a

500
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Speaker 1: lot of love for doing that, and Baker Mayfield is

501
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Speaker 1: doing that too. I just worry about the Bucks defense.

502
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Speaker 1: They don't have Antoine Winfield in this game. They're back

503
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: seven has been thinned that the pass rush that they're

504
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Speaker 1: getting is from unblocked you know, blitzers, which they're great

505
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Speaker 1: at doing that. Last week it was Levonte David had

506
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of quick pressures. Can you do that against

507
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Speaker 1: the Chargers? Maybe you can that This offensive line has

508
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: been struggling a little bit lately. I think they need

509
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: to run the ball more consistently. They got it going

510
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Speaker 1: a little bit in the second half of that game,

511
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Speaker 1: so maybe maybe there's something there, because it just doesn't

512
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Speaker 1: make sense to me that this Greg Roman team that

513
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Speaker 1: put all this investment in the offensive lion is not

514
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Speaker 1: been able to run the ball. I think they to

515
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Speaker 1: get to where they want to go, like winning this game.

516
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Speaker 1: This is a huge swing game for these two teams.

517
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Speaker 1: If the Bucks win this game, their schedule is quite easy.

518
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Speaker 1: They are really in great position to win the division.

519
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: And if the Chargers win this game, they're almost locked

520
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: into a wildcard. So it's a big time bonus for

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Speaker 1: whoever wins this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think what you're talking about with the

523
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Speaker 3: Bucks struggles, I mean, it's not a great week for

524
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Speaker 3: them to get right.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers defense, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's been a defense in the league

527
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 3: that's had a better turnaround year year to year than

528
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Speaker 3: the Chargers have had this year, their first in the

529
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Speaker 3: league and scoring defense. And they just play with a

530
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: level of continuity that it's hard to consistently beat them.

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Speaker 3: And you really need elite quarterback play. Baker has not

532
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Speaker 3: played elite recently. I think this is a This is

533
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Speaker 3: definitely an opportunity for the Charges to flex flex a

534
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and show their.

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Speaker 4: Stuff against the Buccaneers defense that's given the second highest

537
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: rate of wide open receivers this year twenty nine point

538
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: seven percent of dropbacks. Somebody's run down the field by

539
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: themselves against this Bucks defense. We'll see if Greg Roman

540
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: can scheme guys open against the Tampa Bay Buckets. Oh,

541
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Speaker 4: come on, old beefs never died. Greg shout out to

542
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: as well. Let's go to it. It game impossible, impossible, Greg,

543
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 4: for me to pick it is the Indianapolis Colts at

544
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Speaker 4: the Denver who are a four point favorite. Spirodidis out

545
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 4: of Marshalletta and Addie Kinkabwala on the call. It has

546
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: been very difficult, uh to look at this game, Greg

547
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 4: and and think about Gus Bradley's defense going up against

548
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: Sean Payton and bow Nicks, one of the best zone

549
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: passers and situations in the league. And then my love

550
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 4: for Anthony Richardson. I need both of you to help

551
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: me decide how to look at this.

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00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you. I I'm having a

553
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: hard time with it because I got the bow Knicks,

554
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Army and my mentions because I did not have him

555
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: in my top five Rookie of the year, oh ballot,

556
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: and oh oh boy, the Denver fans they're they're spicy

557
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm not going to go through all

558
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 1: those reasons. So in my heart, like it'd be nice

559
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: to give him some humble pie here. But coming off

560
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: coming off of bye week, Gus Bradley versus Sean Payton.

561
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Now on the flip side, you could say the same

562
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: thing that you know, the Colts have a bye week,

563
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: but that to me is a mismatch. I actually don't

564
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: think these two teams have been that close over the

565
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: course of the season. I think the Broncos have been

566
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: a consistently really good team, and so I'm gonna pick him,

567
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: even though I don't want it to happen.

568
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually don't think this is that hard of

569
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: a pick.

570
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: I think the Broncos and it hurts me to say

571
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: this as a fellow Anthony Richardson believer. I'm a big

572
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: believer in Anthony Richardson. I believe he should not have

573
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: got benched earlier in the season, and he is developing

574
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: to the level that I think he will eventually be.

575
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: I just think this Colts team is not ready, and

576
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm thinking less of Anthony Richardson, but more the team

577
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: around him to be able to compete here. They've last

578
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: six games, They're two and four, and their two wins

579
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: have come by one point trius into the Jets, two

580
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: of the worst teams in football, and so this is

581
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: not a team that's that's been punching with contenders over

582
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: the last few weeks.

583
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Speaker 2: And the Broncos.

584
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Speaker 3: I know we talk a lot about bo Knicks, but

585
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: to me, I know last week with standing, their defense

586
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: has been incredibly impressive.

587
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: This year.

588
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: Last you know, Jameis Winston went off on them. He

589
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: you know, Jamis Winston. Somebody's gonna cast a ball game,

590
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: for sure. But I think Vance Joseph has done an

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: incredible job for most of the year having them be

592
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: aggressive but also consistent. I was at a game last

593
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: year with the Broncos where they gave up seventy points

594
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: to the Dolphins, and everybody called from them to fire

595
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: the fire vans, fire the defensive coordinator. They're in the

596
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: top three and points per game allowed, next gen stat,

597
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: pressure rate, sacks, all the categories that tend to lead

598
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 3: to wins. And I think they win this game and

599
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: not only that, And I talked about this on GMFF

600
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: this morning. My hot take is if the Broncos get

601
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, which I think they do, and if

602
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: they get the right matchup, which is a team we

603
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: just mentioned earlier, I think they pull an upset.

604
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: Well who's the team they mentioned earlier, Buffalo or Pittsburgh.

605
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh. Okay, okay, yeah, pull a first round.

606
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: On that is intriguing weight. So you were on Good

607
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Morning Football this morning Peek behind the curtain. We're in

608
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Speaker 1: the early afternoon here in Los Angeles. So what time

609
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: were you in the facility? Yeah, so I got up

610
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: here probably around five oh five.

611
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Speaker 2: Okay, I walked up.

612
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: We're putting you to work.

613
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. I had a late night flight, got

614
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: in about midnight.

615
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

616
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: I got back to the hotel about one fifteen. I

617
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: got three hours of sleep And al rady, you're rolling.

618
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Speaker 5: That's Philly right there. You know, that's that's that's what

619
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Speaker 5: it is. You know, you just do the work, you know,

620
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 5: you don't you don't complain. You don't know unless it's

621
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Speaker 5: unless it's related to a sports team. Yes, in which case,

622
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Speaker 5: no matter how good the work.

623
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Speaker 1: Is, Yeah, you complained.

624
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: That's because we our lives are so much of grit

625
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: and work that we expect. There is that level of

626
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: focus and intensity for our teams, and so yeah, the Eagles,

627
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: you know, we need more.

628
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: The reason it's difficult is the level of focus and

629
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Speaker 4: intensity that I've seen late and these two wins on

630
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 4: the road by this Indianapolis Colts team where Aley Richards

631
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: was getting sold late there were guys like Colin Granson

632
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: had to drop on the final drive and really, I'm

633
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: with you, Cam on the way that this offense is constructed.

634
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: We got a couple of time hands and Grantson and

635
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: mo Aley Cox and all the shots are deep down

636
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 4: the field, and like the personnel doesn't necessarily match up

637
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: like Alec Pierce and Josh Down's like perfect for this offense,

638
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: but then there's some other.

639
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Aspects and Downs might not play this game.

640
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's just but to see Anthony Richardson

641
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: late in that game put the team on his back

642
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: and play that way, it's it's almost that that inspiring

643
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: sense of the way I felt about Matthew Stafford against

644
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: the Bills where they have a puncher's chance, when you

645
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: have a guy that can do things that not a

646
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: lot of people can do. And that's that's why it

647
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: makes it difficult because I did. I can't unsee Jerry

648
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: Judy running down the field by himself. It's very difficult

649
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: for me to unsee that because it happened multiple times.

650
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Well, one of the big reasons that happened was because

651
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: Riley Moss was out, and it sounds like Riley Moss

652
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Speaker 1: could be out not just this week, but a few

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Speaker 1: weeks longer. That it was a little more serious and injury.

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Speaker 1: And that's a big problem for them just because they

655
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Speaker 1: had two really good corners and when you have a

656
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Speaker 1: all pro corner and certain you need that second to

657
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Speaker 1: be solid. And Moss was that guy and now he's

658
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Speaker 1: not there, So that's that's vulnerable for that.

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Speaker 2: One quick thing.

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Speaker 3: Patrick on Anthony Richardson, I think you hit it on

661
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Speaker 3: the nose, and it's less related to this game and

662
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: more about his development. It was upsetting just to kind

663
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Speaker 3: of see how all the talk on him was focused

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Speaker 3: about having him not being ready.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned it, the offense is not ready.

666
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Speaker 3: For he he creates a level of energy that they

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Speaker 3: feed off.

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Speaker 2: I talked to mo Alei Cox earlier this.

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Speaker 3: Year and he was talking about the losing streak where

670
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson was gone.

671
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Speaker 2: The energy felt sapped out of the building. Like Richardson

672
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Speaker 2: brings that.

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Speaker 3: He was like, you can say what you want about

674
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Speaker 3: you know where he is, and you know how much

675
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Speaker 3: work he needs to put in or develop the energy

676
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Speaker 3: where a young team we need that, and this is

677
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Speaker 3: a team that I just think is a is a

678
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Speaker 3: year away from being ready, and I think Richardson got

679
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Speaker 3: the brunt of it, when honestly, it's on the rest

680
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Speaker 3: of the team and.

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Speaker 1: On it, okay, but this is an opportunity. Shane Snaiken's

682
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Speaker 1: been in the building with his guy, this guy is

683
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson for a year and a half. They had

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Speaker 1: to reset it this year. They're coming off a bye week.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a coach off, Like you know,

686
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Stich and we gave Psyching a lot of love. I

687
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: do give him a lot of love, and so come

688
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: up with it, come up with a game plan. You've

689
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Speaker 1: been using Richardson with a lot more design run since

690
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Speaker 1: he came back in the lineup. It's off the charts. Actually,

691
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: it's like eight nine ten a game. It's a lot.

692
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they'll lean to that even more. His numbers

693
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: throwing the ball short are much better. And then on

694
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: the other side, like you gave all this money and

695
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: you drafted lat too in the defensive line. Not a

696
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: lot of teams have been able to pressure Nicks this season,

697
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: but his numbers versus pressure, it's one of the reasons

698
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Speaker 1: I didn't have him on my Rookie of the Year list.

699
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Speaker 1: It's they're bad. They're all in the bottom like, they're

700
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Speaker 1: not in the top thirty. All his numbers against pressure

701
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Speaker 1: are bad, So you got the horses, no excuses. I

702
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Speaker 1: think for the colds, I think this is an opportunity, Like,

703
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: if you deserve to make the playoffs, you can go

704
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: win this game. Cam and I both doubt it. But

705
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Speaker 1: if you want to make a pick with your heart,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy got trick.

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Speaker 4: No, it is plenty of evidence to say that my

708
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Speaker 4: picks with my heart are Yes.

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Speaker 1: Tune into a game debut on NFL Network with me

710
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Speaker 1: and Patrick, especially the standing section right at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and we're going

712
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: to get to the primetime game. I'm really excited about

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00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: this one. That's kind of the last of our our

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Speaker 1: five pack of great games. To start this skit back

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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily with the hardest working man in showbiz,

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Speaker 1: Cam Wolf. But it doesn't work hard at the genius

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Wolt Geno's in the building and just grinding tape trying

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00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: to prove us right along with Jordan Love for keeping

719
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Speaker 1: him on Quarterback Island. Those two were probably the two

720
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Speaker 1: last guys on. They both played excellent football last week

721
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Speaker 1: and made us looks fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great quarterback matchup, which.

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Speaker 4: Is why it's time for the game of the Week

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Speaker 4: presented by Draftking Sportsbook. The Green Bay Packers at the

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Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks and over under a forty five and a half.

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Speaker 4: It's Sunday Night football, so that means Mike, Chris and

727
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: Melissa on the call, Carrie Underwood in the pregame we

728
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: saw the Fins go up cam to Seattle. That was

729
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: it was one of those without two of games. Let's

730
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Speaker 4: just forget about all that. But since this early part

731
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Speaker 4: of the late season, if that's the way to describe it,

732
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Speaker 4: both the Packers and the Seahawks have been really good.

733
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Speaker 4: How do you view this matchup between again two very

734
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Speaker 4: good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So I know we have the geno love, but I

736
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Speaker 3: love the Packers. Okay, I love the Packers. I saw

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Speaker 3: them on Thanksgiving against those Fins that also had an

738
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Speaker 3: embarrassing showing on Thanksgiving. I just think they have a

739
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Speaker 3: level of toughness that I don't know that I fully

740
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: appreciated Matt Lafleora team before seeing them up close. I think,

741
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Speaker 3: you know, we talk about them and their youngest team

742
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Speaker 3: in the league, and they have a lot of you know,

743
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Speaker 3: Jordan Love with the bevy of playmakers, and Jayden Reed

744
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: and Christian Christian Watson. All the play makes down field,

745
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: but when they really needed to lean on Josh Jacobs

746
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Speaker 3: and establish this this physicality, that's when I think they're

747
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: at their best. And when you look at this Packers team,

748
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Speaker 3: they've lost twice since September, both times to the Lions.

749
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Speaker 3: If you don't play the Lions, the Packers are in

750
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Speaker 3: really good shape. And you know, maybe that cost them

751
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Speaker 3: at some point in the playoffs. But I just think

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Speaker 3: they are, in my opinion, one of the three or

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Speaker 3: four best teams. And then m to me, they're right

754
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Speaker 3: up there. It's them, Minnesota, Philly, and Detroit, and I

755
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: think that's that's your group, that's your your your four,

756
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: and I think Seattle's just on the outside. I've got

757
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: too much inconsistency from Seattle for it to you know,

758
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Speaker 3: transfer over. And so home game for Seattle, they certainly

759
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: got the twelfth man there, Gino. Gino is gonna be Gino.

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Speaker 3: But I like this Packers defense. I like their run

761
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Speaker 3: game to come in there and make some noise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense to me. And yet they're catching

763
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks at the wrong time for straight wins for them.

764
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Speaker 1: The offensive line for the Seahawks has started to play well.

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Speaker 1: I'm or much better, I should say, like all I've

766
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Speaker 1: wanted watching Gino every week is just give them a

767
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: passable offensive line. They had their center retire, Connor Williams,

768
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Speaker 1: and the kid that replaced him has played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And then they get their right tackle back, Abe Lucas.

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Speaker 1: You get better players just settled down. They've been solid,

771
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Speaker 1: and then they started to run block pretty well last week.

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Speaker 1: And you think this matchup against the Packers, I look

773
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Speaker 1: at who is going to get more pressure on the

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Speaker 1: opposing quarterback. Usually that's Seattle's opponent. But the way Seattle's

775
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, pass protection has been lately, and green Bay's

776
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: pass rushes is pretty vanilla. It's it's not consistent. And Seattle,

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Speaker 1: on the other hand's got five different guys who have

778
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Speaker 1: a ten percent pressure rate plus only or I think

779
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Speaker 1: there's only two teams in the league with that many

780
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: different guys. They're hitting the Blitzeres Jordan Loves struggled sometimes Blitzer.

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Speaker 1: So if Seattle is a team that gets more pressure

782
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Speaker 1: than green Bay, Seattle's definitely got a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Packers' fourth lowest pressure rate in the league, and

784
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Speaker 3: so yeah, they do not get consistent pressure on the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, the Seahawks consistency is my issue,

786
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 3: but I also like their spurts Jackson Smith and Jig.

787
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Speaker 3: But when he's on has been a top ten receiver

788
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: in football this year at his peak, you know, they've

789
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: had massive games out of him, and I like that

790
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: they've shifted the offense a little bit more to focus

791
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Speaker 3: on him as the primary. I think it was maybe

792
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Speaker 3: a year or two late. I think we could have

793
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: got this last year. But you know, you've got to

794
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: respect your Tyler Lockett and.

795
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Speaker 1: He might have not been ready either. Is tough out

796
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Speaker 1: here for the rookie receivers.

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Speaker 2: I understand that.

798
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: But I think the motion element for Jackson Smith and

799
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Speaker 3: Jiggle has really helped this offense because when you look

800
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: at Seattle, his motion creates so much attention change to

801
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: what they do defensively, and I think it opens up

802
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: lanes for you know, whether it's Kenneth Walker or Zach Charboney,

803
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: but also the other receivers in DK In particular, I

804
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: think he's in the top seven in motion rounds and

805
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: so that kind of just shows how much they use

806
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: him as a focal point, kind of like how you

807
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: know the four and Niners will do with Deebo or

808
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: the Miami'll do with Tyreek Hill. He becomes that guy

809
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: that getses everybody's eyes, and I think that's definitely their

810
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 3: difference maker in this matchup. Can they get Jackson Smith

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Speaker 3: and Jigba to create more chaos in the Packers defense

812
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: than you know, Xavier McKinney does and those guys with

813
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: their playmaking ability.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Packers want of my picks to go to

815
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: the super Bowl at the start of the season, right,

816
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: and I still feel solid about this team. But the

817
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 4: defense has been consistently mid right, especially in terms of

818
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: rushing the passer where you flip the script and we've

819
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: seen the bad Seattle Seahawks defense in these past few weeks,

820
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: we've seen a very very solid Seattle Seahawks defense that's

821
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: been consistent. We've seen a Seahawks offense that was making

822
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 4: frankly hilarious mistakes, big losses on bad snaps, turnovers in

823
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 4: the red zone. And now they've been an exceedingly safe

824
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: and reliable and responsible offense during this run where they

825
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: get him at home. Yeah, and a home underdog. I

826
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Speaker 4: can't help but feel good about geno.

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Speaker 1: Oh so we might be parking our car in the

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00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: same grasc here. Yeah, I mean, I think I just

829
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Speaker 1: want to I want this to happen, and it's close

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Speaker 1: enough that i'll I'll probably take it. But I do

831
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Speaker 1: think there are real reasons to believe to believe in it.

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00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned JSN. He has the most yards

833
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: in the slot in the NFL, but by far this year,

834
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: I really liked the Charbonnet backfield. And so even if

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is back and it's not like day yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely not likely, at least as we

837
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Speaker 1: tape this, I think he'll be a bigger part of that.

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Speaker 1: It's the one thing I would worry about more than

839
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: anything from a Seattle perspective. Is okay, it's a real

840
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: test for their run defense going up against Josh Jacobs

841
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: in this group, who their offensive line I saw from

842
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: next Gen stats had the second most amount of snaps

843
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: together as a five pack, and they just throw every

844
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: scheme at you. So they've been playing well stopping the run,

845
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Speaker 1: but they were a team that really struggled early in

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00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the season. They missed a lot of tackles over and over.

847
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I know they changed their linebackers out and stuff, but

848
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the Packers will really test you, and that I think

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Speaker 1: is what one concern.

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: But it's the system stopper. That's why Mike Mac is there.

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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: That's true. Is that system that's true. He's the Shanahan

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00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Tree stopper. Let's go, Mike Mac. Greg's definitely taking Seattle,

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Speaker 1: The crown is yours.

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Speaker 4: Gotta go back to cam here, We'll go a teed

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00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: up cam on a Geno Smith game.

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Speaker 2: Gre on.

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Speaker 1: That's all I mean, it's all good, It's all.

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00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Good, all good, the Miami Dolphins cam.

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00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the road, still in the hunt, still in

864
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: this playoff picture. They get the overtime win, late Tyreek

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Speaker 4: scores on a fourth down, they get the two point conversion,

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Speaker 4: they get the John Neu Smith walk off touchdown. Right

867
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 4: back at it. The very next week against the Houston Texans,

868
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 4: who didn't have an overtime game, they didn't have a

869
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 4: game at all. They're two and a half point favoritesly

870
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 4: over under his forty seven Kevin Harland, Trent Green, Melody

871
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: Collins on the call.

872
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: Can the Fins do this? They can, but ultimately it

873
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: may not be enough.

874
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: I think we've talked about this Dolphins team a lot,

875
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, in the post to spectrum. They played really

876
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: great ball to it leads the NFL on completion percentage

877
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: passing yards, but theyre just has felt something missing with

878
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: this Dolphins team all year. And once you start to

879
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: believe with them, I call it hopium, it's a dangerous

880
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: it's a dangerous rug. Once you start to believe that

881
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: there's a chance, you get burnt. And that was the

882
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: Green Bay game for a lot of folks. You know,

883
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: you finally think, oh, it's time for them to finally

884
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: prove wrong that they can play in cold weather and

885
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: in primetime. And then they lay an egg and then

886
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: they beat the Jets and it's like, well they beat

887
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: the Jets, so can we And whether they win this

888
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: game or not, I just don't think they have enough

889
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: as a team this year. I will say, what's so

890
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: interesting about this This upshoot of Tua through this last

891
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: portion of the year, is that we're seeing a different

892
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: evolution of a Mike McDaniel offense.

893
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: They for a long time.

894
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: Been even though we talked about Tyreek and Waddle, they

895
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: had had their run game as a pillar. They've really

896
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: struggled to run the ball. For the last month or two.

897
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 3: They've been two three yards per carry and they've essentially

898
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: abandoned it as the core of their offense. And that's

899
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: why you're seeing to a throw forty seven times like

900
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: he did against the Jets, didn't get hit one time because,

901
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: as Jets defender told me last week, he had never

902
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: seen a quarterback where every single time his third foot

903
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 3: hit the back the.

904
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: Ball was out.

905
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: It was It's literally like a science. His timing. That's

906
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: his superpower. People want to know what to a superpower is.

907
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: It's timing, anticipation. They're special in that area. But they

908
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: have a lot of question marks on defense, and if

909
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: we get the right level of the Texans, I think

910
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: they can expose some of their balls on defense.

911
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: Well.

912
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: These two teams I think are similar in some ways

913
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: that something's been missing. Yeah, the Texans are barely favored

914
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: in this game, even though they're at home and they

915
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: have the better record because they were so disappointing on

916
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: offense going into their buy last time we saw them.

917
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, the Titans beat him a couple of games

918
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: before the bye, and then you know they're scraping out

919
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: a win where mac Jones has a couple fourth quarter

920
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: touchdowns on them that the next week after that, and

921
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if Bobby Slowick and this Texans offensive staff

922
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: and CJ can come up with answers during the bye week.

923
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: That's always the hope that you can come back looking

924
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: a little better because they have not been able to

925
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: run the ball. He hasn't been consistent CJ Stroud in

926
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: terms of his confidence and letting go of the ball sometimes.

927
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: And he'll have a lot of great throws he did

928
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: in that Jaguars games, but then he'll have a lot

929
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: of curious plays that you didn't really see as a rookie.

930
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: So this Dolphins defense hasn't been great by any means.

931
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: Probably the best, most consistent units in this game will

932
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: be going up against each other. It's a great matchup

933
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: when the Texans defense is one of the best in

934
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the league. And hopefully he's a little healthier here goes

935
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: up against Toua and so it's weakness on weakness and

936
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: strength and strength in this game.

937
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 4: I was glad to see Chop Robinson come back in

938
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: the game against the Jets because when they initially drafted him, right,

939
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: Chopp was coming in as this high upside guy, which

940
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: you didn't necessarily know what the floor was. But then

941
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 4: they have the injuries on edge and they need him

942
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: to produce, and Chop is produced. Yeah, he's played pretty well.

943
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: And then over on this Texans pass rush where they

944
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: have one of the lowest time to throws in the

945
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: entire NFL, does that help you with geinst The Miami

946
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: Dolphins like the way that this pass rush works in

947
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: league with the coverage. If two is getting the rid

948
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: of the ball as quickly as he normally does, does

949
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 4: that kind of take away one of the biggest strengths

950
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: on this side of the ball, where that's where the

951
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: Texans have the advantage. Yeah, in terms of health. They

952
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: get some guys back on that defense this week, So.

953
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: It's maybe Christian Harrison, probably not Jalen Petrie. I'm looking

954
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: for the updates.

955
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, still, so we have to to wait on you know,

956
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: a big part of their secondary. But I just when

957
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: Tua is on right and late, it's such a key difference.

958
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: Where I felt like on that fourth down call against

959
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: the Jets, where the things that didn't work on the

960
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: goal line stand on Thanksgiving against the Packers where they'd

961
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: still had a chance to make it that game, it's

962
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: like alec Ingold's in and they're going heavy, and it's

963
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 4: just like at a certain point you just have to

964
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: be who you are. Let's spread the ball around and

965
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: let the quarterback who gets rid of the ball quickly

966
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: do just that.

967
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: To fast people, it's just such a small margin that

968
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: they're threading, and they are threading it, but it's like

969
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: they don't really throw the ball deep, they can't run

970
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: the ball. They're bad and short yardage. And yet they're

971
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: one of the better offenses in the league because they're

972
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: that good at the thing that they do, which is

973
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: throw it with timing. But you got to be great

974
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: on third downs, and they were all season. Tua was

975
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes god mode. But last week they weren't.

976
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: And that's why you almost, you know, gave up, gave

977
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: up a loss to the Jets or whatever. So it's

978
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: a hard way to live. They could do it though,

979
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: because they have.

980
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: It's a great point there. I'm curious to see what

981
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: scheme Demiko puts out for this game against them, because

982
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: you mentioned it. Teams have played in an immense amount

983
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: of cover to too high against them with the idea

984
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: of taking away Tyrek and Waddle, almost to the point

985
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: that I think the Dolphins have permanently changed her at

986
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: least for this season, changed their offense to where they

987
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: don't even try deep. You know, it's a very much

988
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: funnel offense where it's a lot of screens, a lot

989
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: of a lot of checkdowns, and they didn't not did

990
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: It didn't used to be this, and so it makes

991
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 3: me wonder is this gone completely or is it based

992
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: off of just the adjustment of how defenses play them.

993
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: If if the Texans are willing to play a little

994
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: bit closer to the line of scrimmage and jump these passes,

995
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: I wonder if they can have their way.

996
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 2: It's a big risk with Tyreek.

997
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: And Waddle on that side of the field, but but

998
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: it's it's it's something that I think would be intriguing,

999
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: especially for the pass russ element. One thing to watch.

1000
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: Toront Armstead has been dealing with a knee injury. It's

1001
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: gonna be tough for him to go this week. As

1002
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: he came out after about what one drive last week,

1003
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: you could see him get a little emotional during a game.

1004
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: I talked to him in the locker room. He's dealing

1005
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: with something that's a little bit more serious than he should.

1006
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: He probably should be playing through. But you know, this

1007
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: is a guy who may or may not be his

1008
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: last year, and you know, I think he takes a

1009
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: lot of pride in this stuff. They got Patrick Paul

1010
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: who they drafted in the second round, who stepped in

1011
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: and left tackle and played pretty decent and to his timing,

1012
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: maybe you can get away with it, but that could

1013
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: be an area that Daniel Hunter and that defense can

1014
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: particularly expose. So pass rush on both sides is something

1015
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: I want to see. I love you to mention Patrick A.

1016
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: Chopp Robinson thirty one pressures since Week eight for him,

1017
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: top five in the NFL. So a guy who people

1018
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: wondered is is you know too small?

1019
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 2: Is he a bust? Just give him time.

1020
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: He's come along and so pass rush, I think it's

1021
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a big factors.

1022
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: A huge game for both teams. Because Miami, this could

1023
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: be how their season ends, like yep, but if he

1024
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: can get the win. They're seven and seven and they

1025
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: played three three losing teams down the stretch. One of

1026
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: them is the forty nine Ers is a good losing team.

1027
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: But still there's a path. There is a path. So

1028
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: and the Texans on the flip side, they literally can

1029
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: win the AFC South this week. They can clinch it

1030
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: this week if the Colts lose and they win. But

1031
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: if you just flip that those scenarios, then suddenly the

1032
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Colts are only one game back and and a lot

1033
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: will be decided in this one.

1034
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: So so AFC and NFC North EC and NFC South

1035
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: for both divisions. So somebody's gonna win it by default.

1036
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: One fun story on the Dolphins playoff chances. I was

1037
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: talking to kalay As Campbell in the locker room after

1038
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: this game, and you know, he's talking about you know,

1039
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 3: the game and whatnot, and he's like, but Cam, every

1040
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: time we need somebody to lose, they don't lose.

1041
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: The Broncos the culture, can you tell them to lose?

1042
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: And I don't really have that power plays or if

1043
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: they listen to me, but yeah, Miami needs a lot

1044
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: of help from the Broncos and other teams, but they

1045
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: can help themselves by just handling business. And this is

1046
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: a game that I think they can win. They with

1047
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: their talent, they probably should win. With the Texans inconsistence.

1048
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 4: A player asking you to have another team lose makes

1049
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: me think of when.

1050
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: People ask us for Super Bowl tickets.

1051
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, as if, as if we possess that particular power

1052
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: from one team that's very hopeful, maybe hanging on to

1053
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: some playoff hopium, to a team that's definitely hanging on

1054
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: to some playoff hopium. The Cincinnati Bengals greg fresh off

1055
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 4: of their somehow victory on Monday Night Football against the

1056
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, taking on the Tennessee Titans. The over under

1057
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: forty six and a half. Kevin Coogler, Mose Johnston, and

1058
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: Laura Open on the call, where Tennessee played in a

1059
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: dreadful game a week ago, Can they get back up

1060
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: and take on this this really special connection between Joe

1061
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: Burrow and jamar Chi.

1062
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: No, probably not. They're one of those teams that, like,

1063
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers, sometimes you hear the

1064
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: announcers the number one pass defense and it's just they're

1065
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: not effective stopping the pass. Just teams don't even need

1066
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 1: to pass against them, so the yardage is low because

1067
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: they're always ahead of them, so they're gonna be able

1068
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: to pass against them. And maybe it is Hope him.

1069
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: But they got the Titans and then they got the

1070
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: Browns next week. That's a division game that they've.

1071
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Had to do. Sell Biggles fans some home.

1072
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying when they're seven and eight. Yeah,

1073
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: if they're seven and eight mm hm, they will be

1074
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: alive very likely. And we're gonna be entering week seventeen

1075
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about the scenarios of like wey,

1076
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't totally out of it yet. That's a

1077
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: path that I do see happening for sure.

1078
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: For sure.

1079
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: This has been one of the most befuddling, wasted seasons

1080
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: that I can remember with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chay. Like,

1081
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: this is the best season Joe Burrow's had in his

1082
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: pro This may be the best season Jamar Chase has

1083
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 3: had when he's been healthy as a pro. Right, and

1084
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 3: they're five and eight and it's it's it's interesting because

1085
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: just a couple of years ago, lou Ana Rumo was

1086
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: getting the head coach love. I think he's a really

1087
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: good defensive mind. This year, for whatever reason, it just

1088
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: is not worked. I was watching the game and it was

1089
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: so funny because he's almost like throwing his hands up

1090
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna try whatever. I don't have a lot

1091
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 3: of confidence and what working. Like they went back to

1092
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: playing a lot of single high this past week and

1093
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: it still didn't work. Like it doesn't matter if they're

1094
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: playing heavy zone, if they're blitzing or not blitzing, they're

1095
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: just getting beat.

1096
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they're talented.

1097
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: That's it is Trey Henderson. Trey Henderson and a bunch

1098
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: of guys.

1099
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, with all due respect, they have talent

1100
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: because they're NFL players, But in respect to the rest

1101
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: of the league, like maybe two or three guys on

1102
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: that team of start on another plane and.

1103
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: Some of them are hanging on from the previous time,

1104
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: so you think they're good. Hubbard got a good condact,

1105
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: but he's not playing like a good player. Jermaine Pratt

1106
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: has been there for a long time, but he's not

1107
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: playing well.

1108
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Like Cam Taylor, it same way he had it.

1109
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 1: The rookie Yeah, the dbs that they drafted, because yeah,

1110
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I think we love to put it all on coordinators.

1111
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: We probably give him too much credit, Like his players

1112
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: were way better in twenty twenty one. Those players deserve

1113
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: the credit and now they're not that good.

1114
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's ultimately where I have I can't think

1115
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: of a team that we have seen have so much

1116
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: success with the same guys where whether it's they all

1117
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: get hurt but they're still playing, did they all get

1118
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: old at the same time? Like, it was a sad

1119
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 4: experience to see Mike Hilton matched up with CD Lamb

1120
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: on the goal line and get absolutely diced up to

1121
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: the point where CD is opened by six or seven yards.

1122
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: They were only on the nine yard line in the

1123
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: first place. The Cooper rushed thrown from the shotgun. So

1124
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: there's just you've seen the defense fall off, but with

1125
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: what the offense is doing, Like, yeah, it's gonna matter

1126
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: against a whole lot of teams.

1127
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, even Chase Brown's getting it done. Chase Brown's had

1128
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: a nice little bump in his career. We haven't mentioned

1129
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: him much on the show. He is playing really well.

1130
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: He's a good player. One just really small note on

1131
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: the Titans, which I just hadn't mentioned with trail On

1132
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: Burkes went to IR last week. It did not come

1133
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: up on NFL Daily. It's just disappointing first round pick

1134
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago, only ended up having

1135
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: five catches this year and probably moving on after this year.

1136
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Just kind of one that did not work out for

1137
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: them unfortunately.

1138
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, roughly, trust I still remember the the Mike Vrabel

1139
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: video as he gets up as they trade AJ Brown,

1140
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: and you know you can tell he's not happy. He

1141
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: just gets up and you knew he was right then.

1142
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: But you know, just for that, you can trace their

1143
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: three and ten record and everything that's happened since to

1144
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: that moment. I really believe that.

1145
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: For sure, because you lose the spirit of a team

1146
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 3: sometimes too, and.

1147
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: It broke up the front office, coach. It just led

1148
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: to a bunch of it. Just that was it. That

1149
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: was a franchise like changing mistake.

1150
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: People saw the Stefan Diggs trade and they draft one

1151
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: of the best receivers in the NFL and Justin Jefferson.

1152
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: That's not you can't duplicate that. You'll get it justin Jefferson. Yeah, right,

1153
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: it's very simple. Kill the Batman.

1154
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: Let's go to the Washington Commanders back off of the

1155
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 4: buy seven and a half point favorites against whomever we'll

1156
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: start at quarterback for the New Orleans Saints. As we

1157
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: watch to see if it's Spencer Rattler or if it's

1158
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: the other option.

1159
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: Jay can or Jay Hayner. I think it's gonna be

1160
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: Ja Cayner forty, but we don't know as of this.

1161
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, still waiting for some confirmation there. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma,

1162
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: Megan o'levy on the call. Uh, the question is does

1163
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: it matter camp Well who starts.

1164
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It doesn't matter at all.

1165
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: The Saints are one of those teams where, look, Darren

1166
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 3: Rizzy's been coaching his butt off, but at some point

1167
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: you just lose enough bullets where you wonder what level

1168
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: of fight you start to have. And I'm interested in

1169
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: what we see from Washington coming off this bye week

1170
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: because you know, I have the understanding that Jayden Daniels

1171
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 3: was battling through a little bit more than even maybe

1172
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: his coach was letting on what was limiting.

1173
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: Him entry, and so he's got that insight.

1174
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, don't always listen to what

1175
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: your your your head coaches say in press conferences.

1176
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 2: Some of that's protecting your your guy.

1177
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: But you know time rest will help a quarterback, and

1178
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: last week we saw him put forty two up against

1179
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: the Titans. This week, I think you can have a

1180
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: similar day. I think that they're gonna come out blazing.

1181
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: I think that this is a team that when all

1182
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: cylinders are functioning like they were early in this season,

1183
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: they're one of their better offenses in football.

1184
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: And I think we see an elite Jaye Daniels this week.

1185
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: So to just close the circle on the quarterback thing,

1186
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: Dearan Rizzy said they're going to compete at practice, which

1187
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: is just funny.

1188
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like a college coach who doesn't know,

1189
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: like neither of these guys are good enough to be

1190
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: the starter.

1191
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: But I just think he's lying. That's my guess that

1192
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: he knows.

1193
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: Oh, he's trying to game dan Quinn and say like,

1194
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to prepare for both Jake and Spencer Rattler, do.

1195
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: We I don't know. They are kind of different. You know,

1196
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Rattler is a big arm player who's gonna make some

1197
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: crazy plays his sack like his sack rate when he

1198
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: played was one of the worst in NFL history if

1199
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: it continued. But he's more talented that We're sleeping on

1200
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: the big story here though, I mean the big story

1201
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: at least in New Orleans for this game. This is

1202
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: the Marshawn Lattimore revenge game. This is going to be

1203
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore's first game as a Commander. He's practicing fully,

1204
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: so I'm just assuming at this point, although you don't

1205
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: really know why you laughing so.

1206
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: Well, if Dennis Allen was still kascher like Sewan will

1207
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 4: go over across the field deaf for everybody else, they'll

1208
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 4: hug Well.

1209
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, and he got paid from New Orleans.

1210
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: It's not like he even holds anamosity to the front office.

1211
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: But he had some issues with the coaches, and I

1212
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: don't know if Commanders would have made that trade if

1213
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: they knew he was going to be out a month.

1214
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: Maybe they did know he was going to be out

1215
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: a month, but it short, it doesn't matter. In the end.

1216
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: They're in position to go make a playoffs and they

1217
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: just added a number one cornerback to their team. Now

1218
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't have anyone to cover this because he out

1219
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: there to.

1220
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 4: Lock up Marcos Veldez scallet Grew.

1221
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 3: It's funny because he got traded and he hadn't played

1222
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: in a month, but we almost forget about him.

1223
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: Wait, because he hadn't played it for three weeks before

1224
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: that for the Saints either. But he's a big time

1225
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: addition and Saints fans who've been watching Zach Bond play

1226
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: like an All Pro they're just waiting for They're like, Oh,

1227
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Sean's just kind of come out there and he's going

1228
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: to have two interceptions and he's gonna do it. I actually,

1229
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it more, Darren Rizzley's going

1230
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: to get the call from Mickey Loomis and Jmmy says,

1231
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't care what you guys do. You know, I

1232
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: don't bother you with the game plan or anything. It's like,

1233
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: you do not throw the ball at Marshawn Lattenmore. No

1234
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: matter what happens in this game, we will not be embarrassed.

1235
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't care if we lose by thirty. Yeah, because

1236
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: he would do something crazy. Tom would go go go

1237
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of the logo. You know, it's something wild.

1238
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 4: It just hit me that you know, playoff situations hold,

1239
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: we might get Marshawn versus Mike Evans in the playoffs

1240
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 4: depending on five matchups. So yeah, depending on some circumstances. Yeah,

1241
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 4: there's something to look forward to. I guess Washington would

1242
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: have to win some games. Yeah, one quick thing about Washington.

1243
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm curious your thoughts. Do you believe in Washington? You know,

1244
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: beyond this week? I'm talking about like as a contender.

1245
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: Like, I was just looking up Washington's numbers seven and

1246
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 3: one this year against the teams with a losing record,

1247
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 3: one in three against teams with a winning record. Do

1248
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: we know enough about this Washington team to think can

1249
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: they win a playoff game?

1250
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: I think worst teams have like the Giants a couple

1251
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: of years ago. It happens even the even though, like,

1252
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: are they close around the same level the Bucks were

1253
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: last year where they could start playing better down the

1254
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: stretch and be a little more than the some of

1255
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: their parts, Yeah, I think they could, but I don't

1256
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: think they're that. I don't think they're talented enough. So

1257
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: I think they've They've done a great job with what

1258
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: they have, and they probably fit the normal profile of

1259
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: a six or a seven seed. That won't win a game.

1260
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, a team that can that could beat anybody.

1261
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: Right, when we've seen that they are good and serviceable,

1262
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 4: and let's go to a team that can also beat anybody.

1263
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: They could also lose to anybody. Their sixteen point favorites.

1264
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Wow, the biggest one of the year.

1265
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 2: Is this the biggest year?

1266
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: That is that is going up against all Right, I'm

1267
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: just saying that, willy nilly, but I haven't.

1268
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: I think fourteen and a half was as high as

1269
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: sixteen as as you've gotten is huge.

1270
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: Over under forty two and a half.

1271
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 4: So they think most of those points will be scored

1272
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: by the Baltimore Ravens, Andrew Cattle on Tiki Barber and

1273
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: Jason mccordy AJ Ross on the call.

1274
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: Greg. Does Tommy DeVito break my heart?

1275
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: No way? That's why then moved even since this morning

1276
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: because I checked this morning and I don't think it

1277
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: was a high like the Locke to de Vito change,

1278
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: got it moved about a point or something, I guess.

1279
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: Oh, so Locke is considerably better than de Vito from Vegas.

1280
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Vegas thinks that we think, Yeah, I think maybe I

1281
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: think he might be that that much better. I don't

1282
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: know who. Like the vibes are gonna be horrendous there

1283
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: with the Giants, Like it's not a home field advantage.

1284
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore is coming off of bye week. The just when

1285
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: Lamar made those comments when they lost to Philadelphia how

1286
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: ready he was to get back to it, and maybe

1287
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: it's a hard knock thing. I'm watching them. I'm just like, Oh,

1288
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna come out and they're gonna want

1289
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: to just put it on the Giants. They're capable of

1290
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: doing that.

1291
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 4: Patrick, I would, I would hope, So I would prefer

1292
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 4: the things are the improvements in the past Rush have

1293
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 4: been something to feel positive about.

1294
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: The Giants have no healthy offensive lineman, by the way,

1295
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: like even their backups keep getting hurt. They they are

1296
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: in a tough spot for Dabo, Like no one could

1297
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: do well with this situation. I think at this point.

1298
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough ask and that the hope that

1299
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: I'm taking, you know, maybe Cam that the relationship with

1300
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson is healed, that perhaps there's been hugs dished

1301
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 4: out in Owings Mills and the offense can can really

1302
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: get back on track. Because there's there's been some ups

1303
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: and downs here as of late, and also put the

1304
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: ball in the chest to number twenty two, let him

1305
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: get one hundred and fifteen and sit him down, put

1306
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: him on ice to get ready for the Steelers game.

1307
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe by the middle of the second quarter.

1308
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: Over under Malik Neighbors outbursts in this game. I feel

1309
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 3: bad for Elie because he's a He's actually a really

1310
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 3: good player, and I think he probably feared this type

1311
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: of situation happening. He gets the notion of a diva receiver,

1312
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: but it's just been awful. It's been an awful situation

1313
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: for him, and I hope he gets a quarterback in April.

1314
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: I hear you. And it'll be interesting to see who

1315
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 1: lines up against. The Ravens made a couple of little

1316
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: changes before thereby or Wiggins was playing more, Trudavious White

1317
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: was playing more, Brandon Stevens playing less. They were playing

1318
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: who's that guy Chris Board at linebacker over Trent Simpsons.

1319
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: So I do have faith in the Ravens because they've

1320
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: done it year after year that they fix what's wrong,

1321
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: and so that I would like to see their defense

1322
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: just completely dominating. And no, it's not gonna tell you

1323
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: everything but good teams do blow out bad team.

1324
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: So this feels like an elite Ravens defense week. Let's go,

1325
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: let's go let them all.

1326
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna take one more break. I know I

1327
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: wish I saw that as the pickup in my league,

1328
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I should have done that.

1329
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: We'll be back after this, back on NFL Daily. Still

1330
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: haven't made a survivor pick. I checked out Commandos and

1331
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: we just took them a couple of weeks ago, so

1332
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: that was not an option cam. I know it's been

1333
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of buzz nationally, but Patrick and Steve

1334
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: is usually in that chair. We're on a streak like

1335
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: no other since week three, and so we're just trying

1336
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: to keep it going. We got an option here. Cowboys

1337
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: and Panthers are both available as options. I don't personally

1338
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking either one of those.

1339
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 4: We've had some discomfort here in the past a couple

1340
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 4: of weeks, but have managed to survive the Dallas Cowboys

1341
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: in Charlotte at the Carolina Panthers, who are favored by three.

1342
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: Greg has not picked them. I have not picked them

1343
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: that this year, and this time they are favorite. Joe Davis,

1344
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 4: g Red calling a Panthers game, talk about vibes. Pam

1345
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 4: Oliver on the call cam. Do you believe the Panthers

1346
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: gonna win this week? I do believe the Panthers get

1347
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: to win. Yeah, so much so that I would pick

1348
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 4: them in the Survivors League. I think that Bryce Young

1349
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: and the Panthers have been playing at least average level

1350
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: ball since he's come back from the benching. I know

1351
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: that's what does that mean?

1352
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: But like they were the one of the worst teams

1353
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: of football, I think they've risen that level to where

1354
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: they give every team they've played a scare. Like they

1355
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: gave the Eagles a scare they gave who they played

1356
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: the week before that they gave the Chiefs. This is

1357
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: a legitimate team and I think brace Young. It's one

1358
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: of my favorite stories of the year of how he's

1359
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: responded to that benching, because this is a guy who

1360
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: they look like they were ready to.

1361
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: Move on from.

1362
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: They looked like they were ready to, you know, go

1363
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 3: ahead and call it, we're gonna draft a quarterback next year.

1364
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: And I think what he's done over the second half

1365
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: of the year has helped them feel like we can

1366
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: still build around this young quarterback. He's playing with a

1367
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: level of confidence he didn't play before, a level of precision.

1368
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: Some of the passes he was making against Philly last

1369
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: week were just and just. The team listens to him,

1370
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: like you could just see as they were going, even

1371
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: through the late late huddle situations, no huddle situations, he

1372
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: was commanding the team. I like the Panthers this week.

1373
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 3: I think that loss the Cowboys had last week was

1374
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: the straw that breaks them and fight short.

1375
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: They were on the road.

1376
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were holding out hope. You know, you win

1377
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: that week, you can go ten and seven, make a run.

1378
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any hope. I'm left in Dallas.

1379
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I'm intrigued. I got to

1380
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: say that I think there's two options. We're going to

1381
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: get to the second one later and we'll discuss it

1382
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: at that point, but they are a legitimate option. The

1383
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: plans kind of work build around a running game that'll

1384
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: end up helping Braysong. It took a minute to get going,

1385
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: but it's absolutely working. We haven't mentioned on the show

1386
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: the results of the Demarvion overshone test results, and unfortunately

1387
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: he tore three knee ligaments and so that's a really

1388
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: heartbreaking recovery that he's going to have to go through.

1389
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: He puts his entire twenty twenty five in jeopardy after

1390
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: he missed most of his rookie season as well. So

1391
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: you really hope for him. And he was a great

1392
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: young core player for them to build around, and so

1393
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: that that'll be tough for them to recover from. Even

1394
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: just on the field this week. They only have so

1395
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: many defensive playmakers and he really helped Mike Parsons by

1396
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: being another one.

1397
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a rangy, athletic linebacker can make plays in

1398
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 4: the past game, pass rush could do it all. A

1399
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: rough spot. Two teams that feel like they're moving in

1400
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 4: different directions. How two teams moving in similar directions as

1401
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 4: the New York Jets are three point favorites correct at

1402
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars the over under forty and a half.

1403
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 4: Chris Meyers, Mark Schlath, and Jen Hale on the call.

1404
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 4: Jets losing overtime in Florida a week ago, losing regular

1405
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 4: tom in Florida this week.

1406
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: No, I would take the Jets. I don't know. This

1407
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: would be a next level of fraud.

1408
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: Watch.

1409
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been with The Jets have been on our

1410
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: fraud watch all year long. Now they are available, we

1411
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: could go really crazy and go with them as a

1412
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: survivor paper being that lake out there before. Yeah, I

1413
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: would never do that. Aaron Riders did look better last week.

1414
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: Thought it was his best game. Thought he moved well.

1415
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't punt the ball until like the

1416
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Fashion New looks like a good young left tackle.

1417
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: So they have some things that they like, like it

1418
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: was the DeVante Adams kind of expect to see. Everyone

1419
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: seemed like they had a little extra juice. I don't

1420
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: know why that is, but it's just something kind of watching.

1421
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: This is a great matchup for them. So if if

1422
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: you got Davante and Gary Wilson in fantasy, like I do, Actually,

1423
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: I feel like they might be turning the corner at

1424
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: just the right time.

1425
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Jets just the right time.

1426
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: For me. I'm saying in fantasy, I got the playoffs.

1427
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: It's happened to have.

1428
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: Gary Wilson on my lineup as well, so I'm with you.

1429
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.

1430
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: I saw the Jets on Sunday against Miami. It was

1431
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: definitely their best offensive showing of the season. Garrett Wilson

1432
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 3: and Davante Adams made their secondary look like, you know, substandard.

1433
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: You know, I got a lot of respect for Jalen Ramsey,

1434
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: but Gary Wilson had had a day against him this

1435
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: past week, and so I think this is a team where,

1436
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, you start to look at this time of year,

1437
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: which teams are gonna, you know, pack up for Cabo

1438
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: and are done. I was pleasantly surprised with the Jets

1439
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 3: in their fight this past weekend the Jaguar. This is

1440
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 3: one of those games like the Jaguars Titans last week.

1441
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't know who's watching except except the family and

1442
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: friends of Jets and Jaguars. But I think the Jets,

1443
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: the Jets have talent to win this game.

1444
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: All the Netflix executives that are like, we need Aaron

1445
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers revival, you know, before we drop a enigma, I

1446
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: really am now convinced, because it's gonna be impossible to

1447
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers out of our lives that now he's

1448
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna like have like a kind of a sneaky good

1449
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: stretch run and then some team is gonna convince themselves

1450
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: into it. He is, he's kind of having the classic

1451
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: old guy season. He just doesn't want to get hit. Yeah,

1452
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: but if you look at the matches they have, like

1453
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you can survive that way. He just doesn't

1454
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: want to get hit. But everything else it's like it's

1455
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: okay enough if you squint.

1456
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So which but which team? Who needs a quarterback

1457
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: as a good offensive.

1458
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 4: There's a team across town in New York, New Jersey.

1459
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: He definitely office a lot, So why not? What about

1460
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 4: an opportunity for someone to play spoiler?

1461
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: What the Jaguars and Mac Jones get a two game

1462
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: win streak and ruin their ruin their.

1463
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: Draft pick Jameis Winston ooh, and the Cleveland Browns going

1464
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: up against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs was one ruining

1465
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 4: all these close games?

1466
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: A spoiler opportunity, right, it absolutely is. But I do

1467
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: not want to spoil Cam's day. He has been so

1468
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: good with his time. I just realized he's he's done

1469
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: so many different shows and they got him going on

1470
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: another one NFL Insider, and we've been honking so much.

1471
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: We got it.

1472
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: We gotta let Cam go.

1473
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, run to the next next show. We'll tell Tom,

1474
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: Mike and Ian that we said, hello, well will I will.

1475
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: But I had a blast here.

1476
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should have got you on Fantasy last so

1477
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 4: you literally could have been on every show.

1478
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost that we produce out here, Cam Wolf like

1479
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: you see him flying around the country. He's he's at

1480
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: the Big Games. He's at he's in Green Bay, wherever,

1481
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: in Miami, wherever it's cold. Appreciate you check him out?

1482
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: Are you GMFB anymore this week?

1483
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be back on the okay morning, check it.

1484
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: Out and check them out Thursday morning. So yeah, you

1485
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: got to go get some sleep too after all this.

1486
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sleep for us off Philly, Philly folks, How would

1487
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: we sleep if we're just going to be angry all

1488
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 3: the time.

1489
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: We have no time to be angry.

1490
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: If we're sleeping, Just Nick Toanni's face on a pillow

1491
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: and just scream into it.

1492
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: Nick's actually doing a really good job the post.

1493
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: I sleep angry sometimes. Sometimes you just wake up in

1494
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,879
Speaker 1: the middle of the night you're pissed off about something.

1495
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, appreciate you ca see you.

1496
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: Cam What a what a reporter here, one of the

1497
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: best to do it at NFL network. So great having

1498
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: him in the studio. And yeah, this this Brown's game.

1499
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: Is this the week where they finally get got. That

1500
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: would be a great moment in this Jameis Winston hero arc.

1501
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: And yet I don't believe it because you know, watching

1502
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: that game last week against the Steelers, it's very Brown's

1503
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: like they do enough things well that you convince yourself

1504
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: they're not that far away, but actually they are really

1505
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: far away. Like even with Jameis Winston, they're not a

1506
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: good offense because they can't run the ball consistently because

1507
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: in the red zone they make critical mistakes, whether it's

1508
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: penalties or mental errors. And then Jamis throws obviously some turnovers.

1509
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: Like they're not good. And the part that I wanted

1510
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: to get to here is like they're not a good

1511
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: defense either. There's this idea that they are a good defense,

1512
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: and maybe it's having to play with this offense and

1513
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: who knows, Like I don't know the emotions that go

1514
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: into but the stats tell you they are a below

1515
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: average defense, not one of the worst, but they're not

1516
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: a plus despite having maybe the best defensive player on

1517
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: the planet. So it's hard to really imagine this is

1518
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: the week that Chiefs get got.

1519
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 4: The case would be the Kansas City Chiefs have won

1520
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 4: back to back nineteen seventeen games. Sure, they have had

1521
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 4: to make changes that tackle because they can't protect one

1522
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 4: of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game. And

1523
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: again they're only scoring nineteen points where that's only a

1524
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 4: couple of plays from. And again the defensive side of

1525
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 4: the ball, they again the past couple of weeks, they've

1526
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 4: made some tackles, but they did have a rough stretch

1527
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: there where they gave up thirty plus points to the

1528
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, then twenty seven, I believe, to the Carolina Panthers,

1529
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: and they're I just don't know how to feel about

1530
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: this Chiefs team at this point.

1531
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't felt, but I'm just not going to learn

1532
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: that much this week. I don't think, you know, they

1533
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: need to blitz, which I think is a problem for

1534
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: them because they just don't have the talent in the

1535
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: back end to hold up and yet they're not getting

1536
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: the pressure. But again, I don't think that's gonna necessarily

1537
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,440
Speaker 1: haunt them against the Brown The Chiefs, speaking of average defenses,

1538
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: are down to fifteenth in defensive DVOA, and if you

1539
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: think about how high they were after five or six weeks,

1540
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: they were top top five, I believe, do the math.

1541
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: That's the kind of the level that they've been at.

1542
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: I saw this clip and I'm gonna take advantage of

1543
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: watching so in season Hard Knocks, I felt like it

1544
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: was kind of like homework, but it's good. It's like

1545
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: doing my notes for this show while was on my

1546
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say criticism, but my game plan of

1547
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: watching that show is it's better before the games start. Actually,

1548
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: I think like the first thirty minutes of each episode

1549
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: is really excellent and some of the best Hard Knocks.

1550
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: Once the game starts, there are really cool moments, but

1551
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: it's less it's less compelling, Like if it was just

1552
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: that first thirty minutes, it's fantastic television either way. Part

1553
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: of that thirty minutes was Miles Garrett talking to the

1554
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: rest of the defensive line room and Shelby Harris just

1555
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, man, I know we're out of it,

1556
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: but just like, you gotta find something that you really

1557
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: care about and play for in this last stretch. And

1558
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: I get it, Like you do have to say that,

1559
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: and it is all true, and those are the like

1560
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: the Shelby Harrises of the world find that, but does

1561
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: the whole team find that? It just made me think

1562
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: It's just like it is tough for them to win

1563
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: a game against the Kansas City Chiefs. That's how I feel.

1564
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: This is it.

1565
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 4: This is that thing for your games to matter late

1566
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 4: in the season. That's why spoilers are so fun. And

1567
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 4: if the Arizona Cardinals were playing Gretor Betch Greig, the

1568
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,480
Speaker 4: New England Patriots would have an opportunity here. The Cardinals

1569
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: still favored by six against your squad led by Drake

1570
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 4: May forty six the over under Tom McCarthy, j Peely

1571
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 4: and Ross Talker on the call along with Amanda Balleons.

1572
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 4: Where Kyler and the Birds have been struggling as of late,

1573
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 4: do they fix things against the past?

1574
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they will. I think this is a

1575
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: great option for our survivor. In fact, I think the

1576
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: two options are Cardinals and Panthers. I just don't think

1577
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense is trustworthy enough in a matchup against

1578
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: an offensive staff that yeah, it's gotten a little stagnant lately,

1579
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 1: but they throw a lot at you, and this Patriots

1580
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: defense has been one that it's not physically talented, but

1581
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: it also makes a lot of mental mistakes and gives

1582
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: up big plays. And so I have a hard time

1583
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: seeing the Patriots win over four quarters. But it is.

1584
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: It's getting to the point where it's very scary to

1585
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: pick against Drake May because we are extremely lucky that

1586
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: we survived weeks ago against them.

1587
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 4: Very very lucky in a in a team that was

1588
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 4: kind of in a similar run in the Indianapolis Colts

1589
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 4: to where the.

1590
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: Cables are all right, maybe you're okay, I'm not.

1591
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 4: I'm actually looking at the last game on the board

1592
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 4: here as my option for.

1593
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: Okay, let's put a pin in that. We'll hold this discussion.

1594
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 4: We'll come to that later. But it's it's two inconsistent

1595
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 4: teams where we've seen great highs. But I just I

1596
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 4: believe in the Cardinals a whole lot more than the Patriots.

1597
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: Here six points might feel like a bit much.

1598
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels too much. And even just thinking about

1599
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: that Colts Patriots game again, it makes me hesitate because

1600
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: that was by far the Patriots best offensive performance of

1601
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: the year. I don'tmost go to say it was their

1602
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: best game of the year, even though they didn't win.

1603
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: They just looked like the better team. They outgame the

1604
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: other team by one hundred and thirty yards. They were

1605
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: really confident and the thing I love about Drake May

1606
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: right now is how different he is than he was

1607
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:13,480
Speaker 1: advertised to be. He is not a up and down

1608
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and his rookie year type of quarterback. He's

1609
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: actually taking what's given. He's not throwing the ball down

1610
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: the field. He's making good decisions. He's he's like changing protections.

1611
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: I think he's I'm trying not to be biased because

1612
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 1: I know he's on the Patriots, You're not. I think

1613
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: he's playing quarterback better than the other rookie quarterbacks. Jaden

1614
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: like is a better pick for Offensive Rookie of the

1615
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: Year because he's been more productive and he's done more.

1616
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: But I just think he's playing at a better, more

1617
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: composed level that makes you really excited about what's going

1618
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: to come when other better players are with him. That's all.

1619
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: It's gotten better each and every week. Can that continue?

1620
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: I almost think it's too good to be true.

1621
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 4: It's like one of those Coach of the Year's situations

1622
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: where you're evaluating base on who's doing the most with

1623
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 4: the least around him, and it's difficult. It would be

1624
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 4: difficult to argue, right they maybe Caleb, because we could

1625
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 4: make the case but for Jad and then for bo Nicks, right,

1626
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: there's a lot surrounding them. For Drake Maye, he doesn't

1627
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 4: necessarily have all of those advantages. Speaking of the number one.

1628
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: Overall, Okay, I want to ask you not to cut

1629
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: you off.

1630
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: No, don't you never do.

1631
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Fantasy playoffs have been right into a you know, very

1632
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: good in terms of total points scored. But I got

1633
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: Kyler here? Do I do I flip it up? Or

1634
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: am I getting too cute to go Kyler against the pageot?

1635
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1636
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 4: I don't think it's cute because there was there was

1637
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: that huge stretch where Kyler was carrying you. We didn't

1638
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 4: have exactly and so there's so many people making decisions

1639
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 4: where I think that was the theme on our show today.

1640
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 4: He danced with the one that brung you, and if

1641
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 4: somebody helped get you here, both of those guys instrumental

1642
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 4: in that. I don't think you could go necessarily wrong

1643
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 4: either way. Kyler's matchup is better.

1644
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: I'm leaning I'm leaning Kyler because I'm trying not to

1645
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: just go with what's been happening. I'm trying to go

1646
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: with the matchup, and I can just totally imagine Kyler

1647
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: in a game they need to win, having about sixty

1648
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: five yards rushing in a rushing touchdown and a nice

1649
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: passing day and we move on. Yeah, thank you. I

1650
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: just needed that. Thinking about it a lot.

1651
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 4: Everybody always asks everybody else for fantasy, So I'm glad.

1652
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 4: I think we get hit over one hundred rushing yards

1653
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: by both quarterbacks combined. Yeah, in that game. So let's

1654
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 4: go to Caleb Williams. On Monday Night Football. We got

1655
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 4: a Monday Night doubleheader, the Bears at the Minnesota Vikings,

1656
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 4: fresh off of their big win a week ago against

1657
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: Atlanta six and a half points, so they were favored

1658
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 4: by forty three and a half is the over under.

1659
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,919
Speaker 4: It's the Joe, Troy and Lisa half of Monday Night Football.

1660
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: As this Vikings team, we saw them lose two games

1661
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: in a row several weeks ago. Oh my gosh, it's over.

1662
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 4: They've done nothing but win since Greg.

1663
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: It's crazy how balanced they are. Aaron Jones finally got

1664
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: going again last week, ran really well. That was important

1665
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: for me to see because I think they're gonna need

1666
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: him to be great to win a bunch of playoff games,

1667
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: and they might on the road, which is what they

1668
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: might have to do. I thought Koc had one of

1669
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: his best games a week ago. He just creates confusion

1670
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: and what the defense is gonna have to do to

1671
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: match what he's doing week after week. And then the

1672
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: talent that Sam Darnold has brought out in Justin Jefferson

1673
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: and Jordan Addison, like it's just six and a half

1674
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: is not enough for me here. I think what Cam

1675
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: talked about of the Cowboys, like that they kind of

1676
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: ran out of their juice. Maybe the Bears have one

1677
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: week where they pop up and you know, maybe it's

1678
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: not all bad, maybe Caleb has a good game, But like,

1679
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: both sides are not going to be good in this game,

1680
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: and both sides are gonna need to play their best

1681
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: game to me to even be in this game in

1682
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, if even one side, like the Bears defense,

1683
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: shows up like they look like a week ago, they're

1684
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: gonna get blown out. If both sides do, it'll it'll

1685
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: just be crazy.

1686
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: When the Bears offense was resurgent this year, they were

1687
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 4: able to run the ball, but they've got the fewest

1688
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 4: yards after contact per carry in the entire league right now,

1689
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 4: and then that's.

1690
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: A DeAndre Swift stat unfortunately.

1691
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 4: But also the offensive lot isn't providing a lot of

1692
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: opportunity for DeAndre Swift to get yards as of late.

1693
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: And here's Brian Flores's defense still stopping the run at

1694
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 4: one of the highest rates in the league. It's tough

1695
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 4: to envision anything other than yeah, more than six and

1696
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 4: a half points Caleb.

1697
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: If I could ask for him to do one thing

1698
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: down the stretch, it would take more chances a little bit.

1699
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: What we talked about with Jalen Hurts, like that touchdown

1700
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: interception ratio is awesome for Caleb, but he's he has

1701
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: the second highest pressure to sack rate in a league

1702
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: to Will Levis, and it's been going up and up.

1703
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: Last week was kind of the bottoming out of it.

1704
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: Seven sacks on only eleven pressures. Now, I watched that game.

1705
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: Three of them were quite quick, like he wasn't gonna

1706
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: do much, but he is holding on the ball. I

1707
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: think just to take some chances. It's easy for me

1708
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: to say because it'll wind up when some interceptions and

1709
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: that's hard to deal with, but I think it would

1710
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: be good for his development. He maybe is almost playing

1711
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: a little too safe.

1712
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not gonna lose your Caleb, And we've seen

1713
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 4: it where these first halves have been miserable for the

1714
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 4: Bears offense. Right they get behind and Caleb feels like, Okay,

1715
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 4: I have to try to make a play now. You

1716
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 4: making plays is why you were the number one overall pick.

1717
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 4: But we don't want safety Caleb. We want the guy

1718
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 4: going out there doing fun stuff because that's what we enjoy.

1719
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 4: Also fun revenge game opportunities Greg Monday Night Football the

1720
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons on the road where they are a four

1721
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: point favorite, potentially playing against the quarterback that they put

1722
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 4: to the curb last year, Desmond Riddle, with a revenge

1723
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: game the over Runners forty four. Chris Fallo, Lewis Riddick,

1724
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 4: dan Orlowski, and Laura Rutledge on the call.

1725
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 2: I'm I would like this as the survivor.

1726
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna you hate it. I hate it.

1727
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: You hate it, so we're gonna have to work back through.

1728
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: I there's no way I'm taking the Atlanta Falcons as

1729
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: my survivor pick in the year twenty against.

1730
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 4: Against either Desmond Ridder or a hurt Ain't No, he

1731
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 4: was cardal off the field.

1732
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, we got the turn Eye, the Scott

1733
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: and North Turner, they're kind of getting it done. It's like,

1734
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: my most shameful take is Scott Turner's underrated, and I

1735
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: actually think they've been doing some good things offensively. They've

1736
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: been moving the ball, and it's probably if it's Desmond Ritter,

1737
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: I still don't want to take it, but it makes

1738
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: more sense to me. If it's An O'Connell, I might

1739
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: take the Raiders straight up. And this season for the Falcons,

1740
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: I do not trust this Falcons team, and the Raiders

1741
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: are in all these games. They're they're actually kind of

1742
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: a competitive football team, and they probably will lose, but

1743
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: it's more about that anything that can go wrong with

1744
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 1: the Falcons is going wrong, and so I feel way

1745
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: better about the Cardinals or the Panthers, you know what.

1746
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: I think, in the spirit of our enjoyment of what's

1747
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: been happening with with Bryce Young, maybe that's the move

1748
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: be a little bold, we take, we take I think

1749
01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: we can agree on that.

1750
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would rather.

1751
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 4: I would rather lose with love, okay then than to

1752
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 4: the sheepishly win and we we have skated by by

1753
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 4: the skin of our teeth. It's been fun to track

1754
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 4: so let's continue having fun. You know, damn the torpedoes great.

1755
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: How about the symmetry of we picked the game straight

1756
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: up every single week. Neither of us have chosen the

1757
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers to win one single time, But the first

1758
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: time we take them to win, there are survivor picked.

1759
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: That's how much we believe in them. I do believe

1760
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: in them. I really I think they'll cover the three.

1761
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: That's how it I'll be picking. I think they're gonna

1762
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: win that game. Should we give the Falcons any more time?

1763
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Because they are they are in the mix here.

1764
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're They're very much in them. If the Chargers

1765
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 4: beat the Buccaneers, the Falcons can win this game and

1766
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 4: be right back in it.

1767
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: They're they're tied, They're literally in first place. Their favorite

1768
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: to win this game. The Bucks are favorite to lose

1769
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: their game. And I actually here's another very mild take.

1770
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: I understand keeping Kirk Cousins as your quarterback this week.

1771
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: I think this is the last week if it didn't

1772
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: go well. But he did so many really good things

1773
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: in that game last week that I just don't think

1774
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: people who didn't watch every step of that game saw that.

1775
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: I want to stick with him one more week. I

1776
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: thought he played quite well throughout that game, except for

1777
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: the two interceptions. I know that's a big accept No,

1778
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: it's but like next level good throws down the field,

1779
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: good decisions, like tough plays, and the contract is part

1780
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: of it. I just think it makes sense to make

1781
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: sure you're out of it first. Maybe a Boulder coach

1782
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: would feel differently.

1783
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's only so many chances you have to win

1784
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: your division, I think, And it hinges on how the

1785
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 4: first three quarters of this game go. If it's close late,

1786
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 4: maybe you make a decision like, hey, perhaps we have

1787
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 4: a better chance short term and long term with Michael pennixtreme.

1788
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: And the defense I thought for three quarters was like, okay,

1789
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: they're getting pressure on Darnold. They didn't quite finish those plays,

1790
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: and you know, the roof caved in on them, and

1791
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: it didn't end up being a great game. But I

1792
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: see the vision they could still make it happen. I

1793
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: think the ceiling, as crazy as it is, is higher

1794
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. Ceiling always high with you, buddy, we

1795
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: do it. We do it twice a week here on

1796
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: NFL Daily with Patrick Claibund. But man, we do it

1797
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: all over the week in general, we got that extra

1798
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: show coming, so check your feeds out. My buddy Anthony

1799
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: Jesselnik and I and Colleen Wolf are going to be

1800
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: in your feed on Thursday before the tn F recap,

1801
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: which will be with Andrew Cziliano. I mean, when we're

1802
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: rolling out stars each and every day, you know football

1803
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: it's it's finally back.