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Speaker 2: Guess yes, it's me.

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Speaker 3: Episode five sixty. We're doubling up, double up.

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Speaker 4: Uh uh. Maury Povich.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to him for half hour and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get over to Chelsea Green after that. I can kind

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Speaker 3: Maury first. I mean, Maury was what would be on

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Speaker 3: all the time if you happen to be at home

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on, but I watched it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most part, about thirty percent I had

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Speaker 3: things like You're Not Father. That's what Maury now has

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Speaker 3: before that. So Maury Povich, the King of talked TV,

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Speaker 3: is back. He's got on par with Maury Povich Podcast

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Speaker 3: season two and you can check it out. He has

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Speaker 3: And then Maury ends up, you know, being really serious

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Speaker 4: I mean, he had done it all before.

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Speaker 3: He had just kind of backed into doing daytime television.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about that story. But Early enjoyed this.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna get to Maury and then after that

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Speaker 3: the Netflix series what was that even called if Unreal? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Chelsea Green. Thank you guys for listening. You can watch

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Speaker 3: all these videos too up on the channel at Bobby

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Speaker 4: And here we go. Hey, Maury, good to see you, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: Know, Bobby, It's very interesting. I always fashioned myself as

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Speaker 1: ever have is being fired. I go to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: I'm the second banana to my wife, who's the big

436
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Speaker 1: star out in Los Angeles at the CBS station. I'm

437
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: hired by a guy. Six months later, he's gone. The

438
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Speaker 1: new general manager fires me. Eight months into my job.

439
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: I thought I was I thought I would die. I mean,

440
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Speaker 1: and then guess what I still have. I still have

441
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Speaker 1: all of my my digits. I have my legs, I

442
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Speaker 1: have my arms, I got my hands, you know. I

443
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: lie down on the couch I'm walking watching newscasts, and

444
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, I think I'm just as good

445
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: as these guys. I I think so, and so I

446
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: end up three months later getting a job in San

447
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Speaker 1: Francisco at the ABC station. And so I think, with actors,

448
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: how about all the additions they lose, how about all

449
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: the auditions that they go to and they don't get it,

450
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, and they keep going, they keep going. How

451
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: about al Pacino in the Godfather, when the guy didn't

452
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: even want him there, wanted to throw him out. Robert Evans,

453
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: the head of Paramount, wanted to throw him out, didn't

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Speaker 1: want Coppola to getting koppel insisted. I just think, even

455
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: even when others kind of bitch and moan about you

456
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: and criticize you, I've always, for some reason, it's always

457
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Speaker 1: kind of washed off my back.

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Speaker 3: In season one, you did Pablo Torre, who I'm a

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Speaker 3: big fan of.

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Speaker 4: Because here you are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he and I thought the episode was great, and

462
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Speaker 3: he is an investigative journalist, like he's old school but

463
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: young in new school.

464
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Speaker 4: What did you like about him?

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's so smart, and I also feel

466
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Speaker 1: honored because he said to me, he says, you've been

467
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Speaker 1: in this business. What is going to happen? Because I'm

468
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: getting a lot of blowback, and I said, well, here's

469
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen, Pablo. The NFL is going to

470
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Speaker 1: get on you, and and the problem is that, I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: the NBA is going to get on you. The problem

472
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Speaker 1: the NBA is going to get on you. And the

473
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: problem is are you going to lose your sources? And

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00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: the key is obviously you had sources who were executives,

475
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: if not owners of NBA teams. You can't allow those

476
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Speaker 1: sources to dry up just because you're being called out

477
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: by a lot of people. And secondly, I know if

478
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Speaker 1: the NBA is going to have an investigation, that law

479
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: firm is going to be calling you and they're going

480
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: to be asking you, you know what. As a journalist,

481
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: they're going to want to know who your sources are.

482
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: And you always have to protect your sources. So we've

483
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Speaker 1: had a back and forth for many months now. I

484
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: just I have so much fun with him. Do you

485
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: know what he and I did that you might not

486
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: know about? You know who Nick Cannon is.

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00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: I do know Nick Cannon, but I don't know what

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Speaker 4: you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cannon has a podcast. It's called We Plan Spades,

490
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Speaker 1: and we played spades. Pablo Tory and I played spades

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Speaker 1: against Nick Cannon and his co host and we beat

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Speaker 1: the hell out of him.

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Speaker 4: That's funny. You go to his house and take his Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's good.

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Speaker 1: It was great, and Pablo was great. Connie and I

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Speaker 1: just did a just did another episode of Pablo. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've I've been on Pablo's podcast maybe two or three

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Speaker 1: times now. And Connie loves him. Connie loves him because

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Speaker 1: he's smart. And he went to Harvard.

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Speaker 3: I know a golfer when I see one. Mostly I

501
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 3: saw your foot Joy. I saw your FJ Yeah yeah,

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00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: as a golfer myself, I spotted him out really yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh you're a big golfer.

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00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: I am all right. Did you play today?

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Speaker 1: How'd you know? I did?

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Speaker 4: I saw the foot Joy.

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00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I walked in to be with you in a half

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Speaker 1: hour before I just finished up.

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Speaker 4: So what do you play? Do you play nine eighteen

510
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Speaker 4: a day? Do you live on a course?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't live on a course, but I live

512
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: like I'm in Florida these days. I left twenty minutes away.

513
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: My wife always says to me, I don't understand it, Maury.

514
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: You go find a golf club and then we have

515
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: to find a house. I mean, why is it that way?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so we spend some of the winter in Florida,

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Speaker 1: and I belong to a course here. We've been living

518
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Speaker 1: in Montana for the last twenty six years. Twenty eight years. Actually,

519
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I have two little courses there I play. I have

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Speaker 1: a course in New York because we still have a

521
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: place in New York. So I mean, I never played

522
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Speaker 1: golf till I was thirty. I never had a lesson

523
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Speaker 1: until I was fifty. My wife researched it at fifty.

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Speaker 1: As a birthday present, she gave me this coach teacher.

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Speaker 1: His name is Peter Costas. He used to be on

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Speaker 1: the CBS golf broadcast for thirty years. He's a great teacher.

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00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: And my wife says, well, this guy is like the

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Speaker 1: golf god. And so now for the last thirty six years,

529
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Speaker 1: I've been following Peter all around the country, and she

530
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Speaker 1: calls him the golf devil.

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Speaker 4: How many hole on ones.

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Speaker 1: I've had two? Man, I never had one until I

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Speaker 1: was maybe, oh maybe fifty five or sixty.

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Speaker 4: Tell me about the first one.

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Speaker 1: It was at Hollywood Golf Club in Deal, New Jersey,

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: a great old course, the Walla Travis Courts. His signature

537
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: hole is this short par three uphill, all surrounded by

538
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Speaker 1: by bunkers, and it's just one hundred and fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: And I was a member there for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: And I just hit this shot. And the good news

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Speaker 1: was that we had a foursome, a forceome up on

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Speaker 1: the green was letting us play through. So they were

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Speaker 1: like eight or wow wow yeah, And so I never

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Speaker 1: saw the ball go in the hole. And before that

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00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I always said Ben Hogan never had a hole in

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Speaker 1: one competitively, and his excuse was that he said he

547
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: never aimed at the pin, and so I was using

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00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: that excuse until, of course I made a hole in one.

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Speaker 4: What's your handicap?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm very upset. My handicap now is five point five.

551
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: It was six months ago it was three point five.

552
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: So now you see how upset I am about life.

553
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean I've been I've been scratched once in my life.

554
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: I played Costas got me so good that I played.

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00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: I qualified for the United States Senior Amateur. I made

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: match play in the United States Senior Amateur I played

557
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: the three British Senior Ameters. I was really good when

558
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Speaker 1: I was about fifty five to sixty. Ever since then,

559
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: it's just moving up a tee.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you're a five handicapped Morey, that's pretty

561
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: freaking good.

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00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: That that's that's really awesome.

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00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to keep you any longer, but

564
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: I am a massive fan of like the different version,

565
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: like the different I feel like you had different sections

566
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: of your life that all were very instrumental in different ways,

567
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: and I think that that's what I'm a fan of,

568
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: of the different ways that you were able to a

569
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: make a difference or be cut through and sometimes at

570
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: the same time. But even like you're talking about even

571
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: with like your your talk show, like you were cutting

572
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: through and you were doing in my opinion, with that

573
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: show what you talked about was happening with the idea

574
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: of a current affair or Fox News like you were

575
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: doing that. You were finding the underserved and actually giving

576
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: them something they could relate to.

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Speaker 1: You.

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: Do you think that's that's correct?

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00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, I never thought of it that way, but

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00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, and I you know, I'm kind

581
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: of proud of that. I mean, I. I mean even today,

582
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter I see a caddy. Oh, I grew

583
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: up watching you. I mean, in fact, I have a

584
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: great caddy story in terms of the show. So a

585
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: friend of mine said that he was he always hung

586
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: out in the caddy shack where the caddies at the

587
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: golf course, and there was always a TV on, and

588
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: he's just listening and one caddy sand or the other.

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: You ever had that situation where somebody accuse you of

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00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: being the daddy and their kid and the guy says, oh, yeah,

591
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: yeah all the time. He says, well, what do you say?

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00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: He says, I tell him all the same thing. I

593
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: ain't the daddy till Maury tells me I'm not.

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00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to let you go.

595
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: But oh so I'm about to have my first child.

596
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: My wife is pregnant.

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, boy, here we go.

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00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, I have to. I wasn't gonna do it,

599
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: but I have to do it. So I am the father.

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00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: So do you mind, Mary?

601
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but but do we have a name.

602
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: We don't have a name or agender yet.

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00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Bobby, in the case of your little baby, you

604
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: are the father.

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00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's me.

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00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: All right, Maury, I love your podcast again, I love

607
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: the history of Maury and hope everybody checks out on

608
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: par with Maury Povitch. Season two is coming out, but

609
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: go look, go go listen to season one. I know

610
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: season two is coming out, but I want to encourage everybody.

611
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: You had some really great guests in season one. I

612
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: was a specially Lewis Black and Pabulatry were two that

613
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: I really loved, and so thank you for your time,

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00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: and I hope, I hope you have a great rest.

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00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Of By the ways, Lewis Black addicted golfer, Yeah, addicted.

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00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: You can always you can tell.

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00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: It's a look we have, Maury, it's a look we have.

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00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: Have a great rest of the day, and hopefully we'll

619
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Speaker 3: cross paths sometimes.

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00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Bye, Maury, appreciate it. Bye bye.

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Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

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Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: All right.

624
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: We're gonna go now to WWE Superstar Chelsea Green, which

625
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: if you watch the Netflix series on the WWE, which

626
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: was kind of that docu series, that's where I really

627
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: became a fan of her. I already knew her from wrestling,

628
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: but I just knew her as somebody who had a

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Speaker 3: big personality and was kind of the villain.

630
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: It was somebody who lost all the time.

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Speaker 3: They kind of just set her up to be big

632
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: and then to get beat up and now not so much.

633
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: Because while we're talking to her, she's holding two massive

634
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: championship belts and I felt like they were a bit heavy. Yeah,

635
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: I felt like she wanted to put them down, but

636
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: she was like, I'm not putting these championship belts down.

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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: WrestleMania forty two tickets are up now WrestleMania Saturday, April

638
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: eighteenth and nineteenth in Las Vegas, and go over and

639
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: get the tickets. They went on sale a few days ago,

640
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: but you can get your tickets now. But here she is.

641
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: Follow her if you want to see what she looks like,

642
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 3: just go to Instagram. Chelsea Green but a big fan.

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00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: Here she is Chelsea Green. What belt is one of

644
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: those attag team?

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00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: Which one is that?

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00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 2: This is oh wait no, this is a tag team

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Speaker 2: and this is the United States Women's Championship belt.

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00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: Do you carry those with you everywhere you go?

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00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 3: How do you get them through the I mean I'd

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Speaker 3: be afraid that, like one of the screeners at the

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00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: airport would be like wanting to wear it and take

654
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: a picture.

655
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: With it or something.

656
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.

657
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: I love it, Like do you You don't check it though?

658
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Right?

659
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: You take it? You carry it on.

660
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: I carry it on because God forbid, Yeah, God forbid

661
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: it goes missing.

662
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: Can you imagine what's the role on if you are

663
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: the champion and I've seen how they remove the names

664
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: on the sides of the belts, right like it's like

665
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: a ceremony.

666
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeap, the name plates are here.

667
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: So you don't get to ever keep the belt. Can

668
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: you ask for a replica belt if you've been the

669
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 3: champion and then it's gone.

670
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I've got We've got all of our

671
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: replica belts. Some of the replica belts will actually come

672
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: from the WWE shop and are they're sold and they

673
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: are amazing. And then others we actually get made from

674
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: the belt maker, the original belt maker.

675
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: I think that would be cool to have those. I

676
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: have a belt. It's obviously I didn't wrestle. Well, I

677
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: did the Major League Baseball Celebrity Softball Game and I

678
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: was MVP, and they gave me a WWE belt and

679
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: on the sides it has the specific event and so

680
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I have that out, but I think that would be

681
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: so cool to have like all the belts from all

682
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: the championships that you've won.

683
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: No, it's so cool. And I actually so I just

684
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: won this. Wait this, man, this has really screwing me

685
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: up here having two belts. I just won this one

686
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: for the second time. And I texted my husband. I'm like, like,

687
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: what's the rule here? Do I have to buy another belt?

688
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: Or like how did this work?

689
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

690
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: I never expected this.

691
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I think you need a second one. So I'm

692
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: a big fan for a lot of reasons. And I think,

693
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: to me, what I thought was really cool about you

694
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: was how much Netflix showed like your work ethic whenever

695
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: they did the series, Like, aside from your athleticism and

696
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: your background or how great of a wrestler you are,

697
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: I think it showed why people root for you. How

698
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: did you feel about once you saw what they edited,

699
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: and how'd you feel about what was aired?

700
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: So when they called me, I'll never forget I was

701
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: in the Salt Lake City airport. They called me and

702
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: asked me if I wanted to do it, and I

703
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: was like, look, I will absolutely do it, but I'm

704
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: not going to edit myself, like, you guys need to

705
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: edit me, because if you want me for the reasons

706
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: I think you want me, which is my openness, my candidness,

707
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: my willing to just you know, talk about like whatever.

708
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid, as my fans know, like I'm not

709
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: afraid to say how I feel. I was like, you

710
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: guys are gonna have to edit me. They said, no problem,

711
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: We're not going to hold anything against you whatever. I

712
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: film for months on end and then I forget about it,

713
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: and then it airs and I was sitting on a

714
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: plane next to bron Breaker and I saw him watching it,

715
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I just can't do it,

716
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: Like it's so cringey to watch myself. And I don't

717
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: ever want to change who I am. I am because

718
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: I've seen myself and I gave myself the ick because

719
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: I've done that before. And it's the same reason why

720
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't watch myself wrestle. I don't watch myself do

721
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: promos like I just I like how I am on

722
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: camera and how people perceive me. I don't want to

723
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: change myself because I'm judging myself. And then I started

724
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: doing media and I realized really quick, if I don't

725
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: watch this episode of myself. I'm not going to know

726
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. And so I watched it, and

727
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: I was so pleasantly surprised. I felt like, besides the

728
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: fact that it could have been so much longer, that

729
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: you know, we had months of footage and months of

730
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: just like other stories that we could have put in

731
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: that episode. I thought it was totally me. It was

732
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: the relationships I have with everyone. It's everyone, you know,

733
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: talking shit to each other, and like nobody has to

734
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 2: be serious around me. Everyone can say what they want.

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: And my family was there and you know, showing kind

736
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: of the I mean a little bit of the trials

737
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: and tribulations we go through as wrestlers, and my story.

738
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: It was just, yeah, it was really cool. They did

739
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: a great job. It's like they know what they're doing.

740
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

741
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: I think the thing that made me like it for

742
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: you the most was it made you likable because of

743
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: the hard work that obviously you've put in all the

744
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: injuries setbacks, and not only that that, like how your

745
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: performance and the crowd reacting to it is really what

746
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: put you over more so than it seemed like just

747
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: a person going I now, deem you to be the one.

748
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: It was like the people were able to do that

749
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: for you.

750
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: It's funny because I worked so hard for the past

751
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: almost twelve years to get to WWE. Now that I'm here,

752
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: I realize, thank god I didn't get here in twenty fourteen.

753
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: Thank god it took me this long, because that is

754
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: why the fans are behind me. They know my story.

755
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: They followed me getting fired multiple times. They followed me,

756
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, not winning tough enough. They followed me when

757
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 2: I was on the independent scene and struggling and trying

758
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: to come up with these characters or at TNA as

759
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: the hot mess, and that is why they want so

760
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: badly to see me climb this ladder because I'm not

761
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: the chosen one, and it's very obvious I'm not the

762
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: chosen one, and I like that for me, but for

763
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: years I wanted so badly for that to be me.

764
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: I have friends that are massive country stars now and

765
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: they will talk about specifically shows where they played for

766
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: six people, and it's crazy to even watch the videos

767
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: because now they've played to arenas or stadiums. When you

768
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: were wrestling independent, Are there any shows you can think

769
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: of where there were you know, seven, ten twenty people

770
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: in the crowd.

771
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a show. There's a show in Calgary, Alberta

772
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: kind of in a rough part of town in Calgary,

773
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: and Mike, Calgarians will know. It's in the northeast.

774
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: They know.

775
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: And a guy, an old old man, was wrestling before me,

776
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: and I was watching and I saw his old wrinklely

777
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: balls come out of his trunks, and that was a

778
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: moment that I thought, what in the hell am I

779
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: doing here? I don't belong here. I'm too good for this.

780
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Get me out of here. And that's something that I will,

781
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: you know, take with me forever. When I go out

782
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: there on you know, on a WrestleMania stage, or I

783
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: fall off that ladder at money at the bank, I

784
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: think about that man's that man's old wrinkly balls.

785
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, wrinkly scrout, I'm gonna do it. It really change

786
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 3: your perspective on where you are in life. So athletically,

787
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: there are stories of like Lebron or you know, even

788
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: some guys that I work with that are athletes that

789
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: invest a lot of money into their body because that's

790
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: their tool. Like, so what are you what are you

791
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: doing like physically to make sure you stay healthy.

792
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: So I've been really I've been obsessed with personal training, diet, exercise,

793
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: all that stuff since I was probably fourteen, and then

794
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: I went to school University of Calgary for kinesiology, So

795
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: that's kind of ingrained in me. No matter what, I'm

796
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: always going to be a somewhat healthy eater. I'm always

797
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: gonna work out for my mental health. It's second nature

798
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: to me. But I think what I've learned being on

799
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: the road so much in the past three years. You know,

800
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: I have not been home this month. I've been on

801
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: the road, and as any WWE fan knows, we don't

802
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: have an off season the way that the NFL, the MLB,

803
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: you know, the NHL, whatever have We don't have. That

804
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: routine is really important and I've learned to find that

805
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: in traveling. I've learned to find, you know, a routine

806
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: when I get to my hotel room, a good sleep

807
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: pattern if I can find one, and just those things

808
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: the comforts of home while I'm on the road that

809
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: make me feel grounded, well rested, and just keep me

810
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: sane because it's tough, you know, being away from your

811
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: own shower and your own bed, and your family and

812
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: your friends and still looking the way that people expect

813
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: you to look. Performing at a very very high level.

814
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: It's hard. It is very hard.

815
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm going a walk in boot now and I've been

816
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: on a scooter the last couple of weeks because that

817
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: ankle surgery and a little bit of that's mess with

818
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: my mind because I am a pretty active person. Like mentally,

819
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: it starts to like affect me to the point where

820
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: it's like, man, am I starting to get depressed because

821
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: I can't do anything except lay in the bed. But

822
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: you've been through so many injuries, and when that is

823
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: your job, Like, was it your mental health? Did you

824
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: have to really was that a struggle for you?

825
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, of course, especially especially when it comes

826
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: to injuries. I mean, look at mental health. It's going

827
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: to be a struggle no matter what. And then it's

828
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: going to be a struggle when you're sleep deprived, or

829
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: when you haven't eaten enough, or when the pressures of

830
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: show business are put on you. But it's really tough

831
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: as an athlete when the thing that you love the

832
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: most is kind of ripped out from underneath you. And

833
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: usually as a wrestler, it's not in this amazing fashion.

834
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: It's something really crazy, like tripping and falling or like

835
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, we fall on our butt and we break

836
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: our wrist, which I've done three times. It's not in

837
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: this glorious fashion of you know, I fell off a

838
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: twenty foot ladder through a blaming table and everyone was

839
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: cheering and I broke something. That's not how it happens.

840
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: It's always the simplest of things. When I had my

841
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: first injury, it was in India and I broke my

842
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: collarbone mid match and I actually had to get airlifted

843
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: to a hospital in India and receive treatment there. I

844
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: went through surgery in India. That was crazy, you know,

845
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: But again I was on the Indies. I was able

846
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: to go home. It wasn't not tough on my mental health.

847
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: It was tough when I had my first injury in

848
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: WWE because it was on live TV. It happened, and

849
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: then I was off live TV and my dream was

850
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: kind of ripped away from me. And that happened again

851
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: when I had my SmackDown debut. I broke my wrist

852
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: on live television just before I was about to qualify

853
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: for a Survivor series. And you know, seeing this amazing

854
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: road in front of you, you know, I'm going to

855
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: do all these things. I'm debuting, I'm going to be

856
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: a star, I'm going to get a raise, I'm going

857
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: to be on WrestleMania. I'm going to be the next

858
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: John Cena. And then all of a sudden, you're stuck

859
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: at home for six to twelve weeks and you're not

860
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: doing anything. You're not going to work, you're not filling

861
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: your cup with you know, doing media or getting hair

862
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: and makeup done, or doing any of those things that

863
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: you have been doing every single day for weeks on end.

864
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: It's really really tough. But I learned with my last

865
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: broken arm that if you don't have hobbies and things

866
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: outside of this that you love, whether you're injured or not,

867
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: you're going to go insane. Because this doesn't last forever.

868
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: This is show business, and show business is so cutthroat.

869
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: You need to have other things that fill your cup

870
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: and that make you whole and that keep you happy.

871
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: You know, growing up and you're doing theater and you

872
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: you have training and dance and anything creative or anything athletic, like,

873
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: not a lot of stability there, even speaking for myself

874
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: doing stand up or doing or whatever whatever it is,

875
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: they're just not stability. So what is like your family,

876
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: your parents, What do they think when you say, hey,

877
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: I want to pursue this career with no stability whatsoever.

878
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, my parents, my whole family is

879
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: very They're like very put together, like, for lack of

880
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: better words, posh. Like you know, my dad is an

881
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: investment advisor in Canada. My mom works or worked, she

882
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: just retired at a very beautiful boarding school. My grandma

883
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: is a posh British woman. They thought I was insane.

884
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: They thought it was absolutely crazy, it was low brow,

885
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: it was not what they ever expected me to do.

886
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: But I think now they realize this is exactly what

887
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: I was born to do. And you know, it was

888
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: rough when I was on the independent scene wrestling for

889
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: ten people and not making money and struggling and all that,

890
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: when I really did have all the options in the

891
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: world and I was able to go to school and

892
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: things like that. Now, of course, I'm twelve years into wrestling,

893
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm building my dream home, and I'm married,

894
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: and I have all these dogs and cats, and I'm

895
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: able to I'm able to treat them to things that

896
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: they never expected I'd be able to treat them too,

897
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: like those are the moments where it's all worth it.

898
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: But it took a while. It took a while, and

899
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: my grandma admits all the time that she was so

900
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: embarrassed to tell her friends at morning coffee that her

901
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: granddaughter was a professional wrestler.

902
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: That's funny.

903
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

904
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby cast.

905
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars has crushed and ratings in the

906
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: past like unprecedented, and you have a dance background, would

907
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: you ever do a show like that?

908
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: I am so glad that you just asked me that

909
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: I am. I feel like maybe we're on the same

910
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: wavelength today. And that's crazy because I have been for

911
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: the past six months pestering the hell out of Dancing

912
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: with the Stars and out of our talent relations team.

913
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: They hear from me every single Friday, whether it's in

914
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: person or by text. Did Dancing with the Stars call yet?

915
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Have you asked Dancing with the Stars?

916
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Have you?

917
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

918
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the producers of Dancing with the Stars.

919
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: I've spoken to Nikki Bella, I've spoken to the Miz.

920
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: I am planting those seeds. I am watering those seeds.

921
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: I am fertilizing those seeds. I will be on Dancing

922
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: with the Stars. It's just a matter of time.

923
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you really so, I won the show

924
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: a few years ago, like I won the Mirror Ball,

925
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: and I know if you want, I know the head

926
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: of casting, I can literally Dina. I can just text her.

927
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say her name, but oh, I

928
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: know Dina.

929
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: I will text her and just put in a good

930
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: word and be like, hey, I was talking to Chelsea Green, like,

931
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: I think she would be awesome for the show. If

932
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: that's not like overstepping. Would you mind if I did that?

933
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 2: Would I mind? I would pay you. Let me give

934
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: me your zell. I'll zeld your money to do no.

935
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: I'll seriously, I think you'd be so great on it,

936
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: and there hasn't been a professional wrestler on it, and

937
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: I think it would be the first. I think I

938
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: think it'd be fair because again, you're so performative in

939
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 3: your wrestling, and obviously you have a background. I think

940
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: you will be so good on that show. And before

941
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 3: you came on, because that show is ending and it's

942
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: been a little controversial for me this year, but I

943
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: wanted a few years back, and I was like, I

944
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: think she'd be great. So I will text her and

945
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: just just put you from another side. I will say,

946
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: I think Chelsea Green would be awesome.

947
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: This is I knew there was a reason I woke

948
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: up early today. This was it.

949
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 4: How are you how physically? How are you feeling right now?

950
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: Oh?

951
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: Exhausted, Absolutely exhausted. But I mean I dreamt of the

952
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: day I was going to be absolutely exhausted from wrestling,

953
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: and so it's it's a really good feeling to wake

954
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: up being exhausted because I'm doing every single thing I

955
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: ever dreamt of.

956
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 3: When you talk about WrestleMania, we're talking about WrestleMania. Before

957
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: you came on, we were talking about tickets going on

958
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: so and even behind you it says WrestleMania Vegas. I

959
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: mean that's that's super Bowl type stuff, like leading up

960
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: to it, like being there, Like what's the vibe like

961
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: at WrestleMania.

962
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's anything like it. We

963
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: always compare it to the super Bowl and you know,

964
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: like the pinnacle of every other sports thing. But I

965
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything like WrestleMania. Because we've now not

966
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: only is it, you know, two days obviously this year

967
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be April eighteenth and nineteenth, but it's

968
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: a whole week of just everyone being engulfed in all

969
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: things professional wrestling. And what I love about WrestleMania Week

970
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: is it's now transcended just WWE. The entire wrestling community

971
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: bases their year around this week, and so I personally

972
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: get to see all my friends from other companies and everyone.

973
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get to see raw talent, I

974
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: don't get to see Maxine Duprix all the time. So

975
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 2: of course we get to spend the whole week together,

976
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: and we get to go to the Superstore and now

977
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: my hat is going to be in the Superstore this year.

978
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: And I get to meet all the fans that I've

979
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: been kind of connecting with online through Twitter and through

980
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: Instagram all year, and we get to, you know, just

981
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: like have those one on one moments that I personally

982
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 2: think make or break a fans relationship with the sport

983
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: of professional wrestling, because they all just want they just

984
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: want to tell you how much they love this. And

985
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: so to be able to stand in a meet and

986
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: greet line or a photo op line and have them

987
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: tell me that it's just like the coolest thing ever.

988
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 2: It really is. It's my favorite week of the year

989
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: besides Christmas.

990
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: I have three very quick, super cliche wrestling questions to

991
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: ask because I'd be remiss if I didn't just ask

992
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 3: these questions. Who's your favorite wrestler of all time?

993
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly?

994
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

995
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 3: Secondly, what's your favorite match that you lost?

996
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't know if you know me,

997
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: but I've lost every match ever my mom basically a

998
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: losing streak. I don't know how I hold these championships,

999
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: but it's something has gone seriously wrong in the back

1000
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: for me to even have these titles. But I digress.

1001
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: I would say the money in the Bank match, where

1002
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: I knew Tiffy was winning. I knew how big that

1003
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: was going to be for her. I love her, and

1004
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: I knew that, besides her winning, me being push off

1005
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: that ladder was going to be the most viral thing

1006
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: on that show.

1007
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: So that was exciting to you because you knew, even

1008
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: though you were losing, you coming off the ladder was

1009
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 3: going to be what popped.

1010
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: And it was going to be in the most glorious

1011
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: fashion that Tiffy was going to be able to grab

1012
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 2: that briefcase after pushing me off the ladder. I knew

1013
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: that the crowd was going to be split between Tiffany

1014
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: and myself, and I had already decided I was going

1015
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: to do that stunt. I was dying on that hill.

1016
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: They tried to say, I don't think you should do it,

1017
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: it's unsafe. I said, I'm doing it. The producers were

1018
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: incredible about pushing and saying like, she's gonna do it.

1019
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: Whether you want her to do or not, She's going

1020
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: to do it. And I made sure that that was

1021
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: the last thing that those fans saw before she got

1022
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 2: the briefcase, because you know, when you're building a match,

1023
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: it has to go like uh uh ah like that,

1024
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: and if you don't have that, you've done something wrong.

1025
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: And so I knew that that was the best thing

1026
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: for right before the biggest pop of the night, which

1027
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: was Tiffany winning the briefcase.

1028
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: Final question, super cliche question, what do you think Jen

1029
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: pop doesn't know about what you do?

1030
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: I just think that they don't understand. I think this

1031
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: whole F word, the word fake has been thrown around

1032
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: since the early two thousands, that they don't understand how

1033
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: real it is. I did stunts for movies. This is

1034
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 2: I don't have patting. I'm not rigged up. I am

1035
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: doing these stunts on my own. I am landing on

1036
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: my spine, on my back, on my tailbone, on you

1037
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: know I'm I'm doing. These are all real, real, live

1038
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: stunts in front of twenty thousand people every week, multiple

1039
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: times a week. And I wish that instead of saying

1040
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: is it fake, they would ask me how bad it hurts?

1041
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: Well, big fan, thank you for the time. And I

1042
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: will text Dina as soon as we're done, and that

1043
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: would be super cool. I would love to see on

1044
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: the show because it's so much fun. And I and.

1045
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: Then will you come and dance with me on the

1046
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: dance that you have?

1047
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh you don't want someone come back?

1048
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 4: You don't want that. I want.

1049
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: I literally was like everybody's favorite. But I had no

1050
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: dance experience.

1051
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: So I love that.

1052
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 3: If there's a time, if you're on and it's hey,

1053
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: bring someone on. But if I don't make or break

1054
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: your dance, but I'm just like a part of it,

1055
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: I will do it. But I would not trust to

1056
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 3: you in my hands because you'll hurt something again. And

1057
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 3: I would feel terrible for that reason, but I'll tell you.

1058
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: That I just know that my arm is now metal.

1059
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 3: Okay, Chelsea, thank you for the time, have a great

1060
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 3: rest of the day, and hopefully I'll see you soon.

1061
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 5: Thank you you all right, Chelsea, thanks for listening to

1062
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 5: a Bobby Cast production.

1063
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm