1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let me get to a Steve Poundlozolo. Once 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: we figured out how to pronounce his name. We love 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: to have him on co host a Pro Football Focus 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Do you want to jump in on any 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: of those topics we've already had, Well, I mean the 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Brady bled Cell thing. I mean, clearly that's the most 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: impactful injury. I think the blindside's overrated because when the 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: quarterback looks to is left is blind side's protected by 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the right tackle. So I think it's overrated. And then 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: percept you'd have some success this weekend because the Miami 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: has got some good playmakers, but their offensive line is rough, 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: So I would go justin fields there. And once again, 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: what you offer, what Pro Football Focus offers his non opinions, 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: it's all numbers based, yeah, correct, Yeah, I mean there's interpretation. 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Anytime you get a number, there's interpretation, there's context. But yeah, 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's quantified. Film study is what we do. 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: That's how we come up with our grades. All right, 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Tom Brady versus the Rams defense, you have of two 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: of the top five defenders in the game. I'm guessing 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: maybe the best at their individual positions and Aaron Donald 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey. How does Tom Brady and the Buccaneers 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: attack the Rams this weekend. It's a tough one. I mean, 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna look a lot different than what the Bucks 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: faced the first two weeks against the Cowboys and the Falcons. 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: The Rams defense, my big question coming in was they 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: lose Brandon Staley, who was really forward thinking and taking 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: away the deep ball and playing the past before the 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: run and all these different things that he did last year, 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: and they're carrying that over. Jalen Ramsey's playing. Remember late 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: career Charles Woodson when he was out there kind of 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: playing a little linebacker and in the slot. I mean, 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: that's how Jalen Ramsey's playing in and around the line 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, blowing things up. So the Bucks have to 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: spread them out, be patient in the underneath game. But 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the Rams match up really well, and they gave the 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Bucks trouble last year on Monday Night Football. That was 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: one of the few games where the Bucks offense was 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: not very good. So it's a great matchup. Antonio Brown 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: might be out, but the Bucks look like right now 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: when all those guys are out there, all those receivers 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: and Gronk and Cameron, Brent, those tight ends really tough 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: to cover because Brady just goes who's the open man 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: this week? So I think it'll be a good back. 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: The Rams will do the best job against the Bucks offense. 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: The Bucks will still find a way to score some points, 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: though more likely to happen Ramsey gets an interception from 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Brady or Aaron donald Sacks. Brady, Oh, definitely go Aaron 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: donald Sack. I mean, he's he's gonna he wins, you 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: know about twenty twenty five percent of his pass rushes, 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: which is incredible for an interior defensive lineman. You know, 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: most guys are ten twelve, you know, maybe fifteen, So 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Donald will He's got a much better shot. I think 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: of getting a sack, and Brady's Brady smart. He doesn't 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: have to throw at Jalen Ramsey, he can avoid him 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: if needed. Chargers in the Chiefs, I've mentioned this a 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: couple of times. It feels like if you're gonna beat 58 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs at least in the AFC, gotta be able 59 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to run the football. Baltimore can run it, Cleveland can 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: run it. Who else am I leaving the Titans can 61 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: run it? Can the Chargers run it? Is that the 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: approach to beat the Chiefs? If he were the Chargers, 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the type of team you have. 64 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: I think if you are the Ravens or the Browns 65 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and that is one of your strengths, that's a piece 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: I think with the Charges have showed is they could 67 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: put the ball in justin Herbert's hands and then they 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: haven't scored a ton of points. But he's been pretty efficient. 69 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: A couple mistakes against the Kyle Boys, but he's really 70 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: good in that Washington game in Week one, had all 71 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: those third down conversions. I think you have to score 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: points against the Chiefs. That's the key. What the Browns 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: did in Week one is they maximized every opportunity fourth 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: and three and instead of kicking a field goal, they're 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: going for it. You have to say, I have to 76 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: score thirty and then hope that we can keep them 77 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: to under thirty. And you know, the Ravens pretty much 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: did that right, So I think you got to score 79 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: as many points as possible. And from the Charger standpoint, 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: that's justin Herbert throwing to Keenan Allen throwing to Mike 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Williams and then figuring out how Austin Eckler is a 82 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: part of the run game and catching the ball out 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: of the backfield. Have you graded out Justin Herbert and 84 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford the first two weeks? Yeah, Stafford's one of 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: our highest graded quarterbacks. Herbert, you know, he's eleventh right 86 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: now in our grades. Was Stafford's third. So Stafford has 87 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: been a little bit better than his career baseline and 88 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: probably shown hey, look, this Rams offense is a nice 89 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: little mesh with his skill set, and they've they've tapped 90 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: into the downfield passing attack a little bit more with 91 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: the Rams. What's the grade for Jimmy Garoppolo so far? 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. One of my favorite things 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: to do is to take PF passing grade and compare 94 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: it to say, passer rating or yards pert, say your 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: traditional stats, and Garoppolo is let's see where he ranks. 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: He's down there, Oh gosh, where is he? He's too low? 97 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: Twenty fourth, he's twenty fourth in our grades. Passer rating, 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: he's top ten. So when you see guys that are 99 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: lower in our numbers higher in passer rating, or traditional stats, 100 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: you generally attribute that to luck or Kyle Shanahan being great, 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: the playmakers being great, Deebo Samuels catching a jump ball 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: and running seventy yards for a touchdown. So that's been 103 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: the Garoppolo story. He missed a lot of throws in 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: that Eagles game and was one of the reasons why 105 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: they only scored seventeen points even though they won. But 106 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: what are you factoring in that? The QBR is not 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: factoring it, So we're looking at the quality of every 108 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: single throw. So again, if you know, if Garoppolo throws 109 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: a jump ball and it legitimately should be tipped away 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and the receiver wins at the catchpoint, 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and then if, especially if the receiver wins at the 112 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: catchpoint and then runs another fifty yards for a touchdown, 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: that's a whole bunch of credit that's going to the 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: quarterback that he didn't really earn. Mahomes is really a 115 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: good example. On Sunday Night Football, he had two touchdowns 116 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: where it was Travis Kelsey running through the entire Ravens defense. 117 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: It was a decent throw, he threw it to him. 118 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: But this is Kelsey as he's running earning him passer 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: rating points and stuff right, and Byron Pringle did the 120 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: same thing on a forty yard run. So the other pieces, 121 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: if you make a bad throw, throw it right to 122 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: a defender, we're giving you a big downgrade, even if 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the defender drops it and it's only over one. So 124 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: it's just adding the context to each play and the 125 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: QB's actual contribution. Steve Paleozolo, he's the co host of 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus NFL podcast. Did the media overreact to 127 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the first week with Aaron Rodgers or did they overact 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: more so to the second week performance against the Lions. 129 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Probably the first week. I mean, Rodgers has had games 130 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: like that before. They just didn't happen to happen in 131 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: Week one, right. It happened last year in Week six 132 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: against the box. It happened at other times. Every time 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: he had a PFF grade under fifty since twenty sixteen, 134 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: which he had in Week one, it was terrible and 135 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: under fifties pretty bad in our system. Every time he's 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: bounced back with four touchdowns exactly four touchdowns and no interceptions. 137 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: This is the fourth straight time he's done it now, 138 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: So people could have looked at history and said Look, 139 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has had bad games before. This happened to 140 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: be in Week one. It doesn't mean that Jeopardy did it, 141 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: and he'll probably bounce back. He's facing the Lions and 142 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: it was four touchdowns and no interceptions and he played better. 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: So I think Aaron Rodgers is going to be okay. 144 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: So relax again. I think we're going to learn more 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: about the Packers and Aaron Rodgers this week than we 146 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: did last week. You're playing it at home against the Lions, 147 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: so I was not surprised. I was surprised the Lions 148 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: were going toe to toe with him in the first half. 149 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: I thought there was a huge third down toss to 150 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: Davante Adams in the third quarter that it kind of 151 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: propelled the Packers there. But I'm not surprised at all. 152 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Let's look at rookie quarterbacks. Is anybody actually having a 153 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: better season than we think with these rookie quarterbacks aside 154 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: from Mac Jones, not really. I mean I had high expectations, 155 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: not astronomical expectations for Trevor Lawrence, but he's been disappointing 156 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: so far. He's got the highest percentage of uncatchable passes 157 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL this year by a pretty significant margin. 158 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 1: He's not playing with great timing. What's uncatchable just straight 159 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: up an overthrow and underthrow in front behind the receiver 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a catch, a chance to holiday. You know, 161 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: there's those there's bang bang catches or opportunities, but this 162 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: is he's just flat missing far more than he should be. 163 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: And then Zach Wilson all those interceptions against the Patriots, 164 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: not all his faults, but his mechanics are all over 165 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: the place. He's fading away, he's not stepping into throws 166 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: things he probably got away with and he's learning he can't. 167 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: So that hasn't been great so far. And mac Jones 168 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: has been the most efficient. It's he's been probably the 169 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: safest as far as game plan goes and throwing the 170 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: underneath stuff. But his Week one game against the Dolphins 171 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: was really impressive plays under pressure, his accuracy. So yeah, 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones I think has been the clear guy. He 173 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: hasn't dominated, but not making as many mistakes as the 174 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: other guys. Now you have Justin Fields coming in for 175 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the Bears. Assess the Bears offensive line. Where does that 176 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: rank talent wise? The tackles are playing okay, right now. 177 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: As far as pass protection goes, They've got Jason Peters 178 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: at left tackle. He's almost forty, but he's still pretty good. 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: Jermaine Fett he's been okay as a pass blocker at 180 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: right tackle. Historically he's not great there. The interior has 181 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: gotten beat up, so there's going to be some pressure upfront, 182 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: and the quarterback affects pressure rate because when when a 183 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: QB holds the ball, it puts more pressure on the 184 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: offensive line, even if he's joking out of a sack. 185 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: So that's what's going to be interesting to see. Andy 186 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: Dalton generally gets the ball, gets rid of the ball 187 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: faster than most quarterbacks in the NFL. He's top five 188 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: getting rid of it justin field so far preseason and 189 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: last week. Likes to hold it, let things develop, scramble 190 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: out a little bit, so there'll be a lot of 191 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: pressure on an offensive line that's definitely in the you know, 192 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: bottom eight or ten I think in the NFL. Right now, 193 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: do you guys grade careers? You do? Yeah, it's Devin Hester, 194 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Now that's a tricky one because 195 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: special teams it's its own, it's its own animal, you know, 196 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, when you're looking at the 197 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, if there's if you've completely changed the game, 198 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: and could Darrel Patterson is going to have an interesting 199 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: argument that's Hester like, right, I mean there is those 200 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: guys were game changers. You you're afraid to kick them 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: the ball? I think Hester is. I think I think 202 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Patterson probably is because they were so good at taking 203 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: it to the house, which is a very rare thing. 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Wait is a Hall of Famer. Yeah, He's the best 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: kickoff returner of all time in a time when that 206 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: part of the game is getting de emphasized, when you 207 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, kickers can just kick it through the end 208 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: zone and get a touchback if they want. And Patterson's 209 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: still extremely dangerous. I mean the blocks were you know, 210 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: dribbling it at him last week because they were so 211 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: afraid of him. He was an All Pro four times. 212 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers Hall of Famer. The more I think about it, 213 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm starting to lean no on both Philip Rivers and 214 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, you know, just because I think the era 215 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: thing matter. You were mentioned an error, right, how do 216 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: you compare? Was there ever, was Philip Rivers a top 217 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: five quarterback in his era? Yeah? A couple of seasons 218 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: he was, but overall he's top eight type of guy. 219 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: You're in the era with Brady Breeze, Peyton, with Aaron Rodgers, 220 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, Big Ben. It is tough to say 221 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: this guy is an elite player in his era. So 222 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm starting to lean the playoffs are gonna work against 223 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Rivers in this argument, even though the stats and generally 224 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: he was really good. But I'm starting to lean no. 225 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: I think for Rivers, why no? For Eli? I mean, 226 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: he was an average slightly above average NFL quarterback. I 227 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: say that with a ton of respect. That's a tough 228 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: thing to do. Who had the two Super Bowl runs. 229 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll get in. I think people are gonna 230 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: buy into that. But they all so didn't make the 231 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: playoffs a lot, and it was a very in years 232 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: where Eli was a bottom third quarterback, right, So there 233 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the continued sustained success where he was a top 234 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: eight guy consistently. He had a couple quick peaks and 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: there were nice peaks. The giants will take it, but 236 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know if you put that into the 237 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yeah, but I go back to Joe 238 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Namath Joe Namath won one game, and you can say 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: it might be the most important game in NFL history 240 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: because it helped spring the merger. But he threw more 241 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: interceptions than touchdowns. He had one unbelievable moment, but you 242 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: know his defense was brilliant that day. They gave up 243 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: seven points to the coltson Super Bowl three. Why is 244 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: Joe Namath in the Hall of Fame, It's because people 245 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: like the fields, right, It's the feeling. And it's a 246 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: tough for for someone like me that works with numbers 247 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: so much, because I want to say, Okay, here's the 248 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: whole body of work. But I get it. The Hall 249 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: of Fame is about moments and you know playoff success 250 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: and you know helmet catches and things like that that 251 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Eli has. And look, the Mario Manningham covered two shot 252 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: against the Patriots in twenty eleven is one of the 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: best throws in NFL history. Forget the helmet thing. That 254 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: was kind of a jump ball. I mean, putting the 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: ball in Manningham's hands wins the game for the Giant. 256 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: So I could talk myself into it, but I generally 257 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: leaned toward the full body of work. Am I watching 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. I don't. I don't know if 259 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: anybody got that vibe when watching Eli Manning. Always great 260 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you, Steve, Thanks for joining us, have 261 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: a great weekend. Thank you to appreciate it. Be sure 262 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 263 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox 264 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Pat forty Sports 265 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Illustrated senior writer. He's going to the Wisconsin Notre Dame 266 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: game on Saturday. He was at Cincinnati, Indiana last week. 267 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: I figured we'd have him on Get an update because 268 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Committee met yesterday but did not 269 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: vote to expand to twelve teams. Pat joins us, now, 270 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: can you tell me why they didn't vote? Pettiness, jealousy, rivalry, distrust, shortsightedness. 271 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: I guess that would be the short list of reasons. Basically, 272 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: it comes down to a unwillingness to I think, let 273 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: the the SEC and ESPN get everything at once here 274 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: more than anything else. It's like, Okay, Greg Sinky was 275 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: on this committee that helped come up with expanding the 276 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: playoff to twelve. It would be a huge financial game. 277 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: ESPN would be the benefactor, the Soul Media benefactor, and 278 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: we don't like what happened with expansion with Texas and Oklahoma. 279 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: So we're going to throw a stick into the wheels 280 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: here and at least slow it down. I still think 281 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: we will get to expansion. I don't know there's gonna 282 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: be eight. I don't know if it's gonna be twelve. 283 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to expansion with multiple broadcast partners, as 284 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: my belief, but we still have to wait a few 285 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: years for this contract to explore, right, yeah, now you know. 286 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean they could get into this probably and open 287 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: this up and do something by like twenty twenty four 288 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: if everyone wanted to. But this is part of the 289 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: slowdown process is we are not going to do this 290 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: the way certain people want it. We're gonna like if 291 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: you're the Big ten, the PAC twelve, and the ACC 292 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: you're staying okay, well, this is not just going to 293 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: be everything the way se the SEC wants. You. Brought 294 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: up the number eight. I was told don't be locked 295 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: into twelve because it might start with baby steps to 296 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: eight and might even jump to sixteen and might blow 297 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: right past twelve. What are you hearing about down the road. Well, 298 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: I certainly think all the numbers are still on the table. 299 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think sixteen is a tough sell right 300 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: now from what I heard just from people coming out 301 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: of there, worried about number of games played and how 302 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: deep into January you're going to go with this thing 303 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: that there is a feeling that it would be a 304 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: rare thing for a team to play seventeen games. It 305 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: could happen, but if you're at sixteen sixteen team playoff, 306 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: then it's almost certain that somebody's going to play seventeen games, 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: whereas it would be unlikely otherwise. They want to keep 308 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: this thing at sixteen or fewer games. For the most 309 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: part is they're trying to sell this as as relative 310 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: amateur sports, which segues into name, image and likeness. Here 311 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: we are a couple of weeks into the season. Is name, 312 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: image and likeness working, Yeah, I think it is. I 313 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: think it's working quite well. You know. I mean, I 314 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: know this for all the people that sat out there 315 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: and said this is going to ruin the sport, you know, 316 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: this is going to turn it into pro football. Already 317 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: watched Proof Football. I'm not going to watch. The ratings 318 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: are huge, The ratings have been phenomenal so far this year. 319 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: Players are getting things, But have you seen any sign 320 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: that it is ruined their product, ruined their work ethic, 321 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: turn them into you know, it's lazy money grubbing players. No, 322 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. You've seen non revenue sport athletes 323 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: make money off of it. I don't think that there's 324 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: been anything that I've seen that says this was a 325 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: bad idea. I mentioned this in the first hown or 326 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: the show that you know James Franklin beating Auburn at 327 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: home sort of keeps him at the top of the 328 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: USC list. There's obviously mutual interest, but he's either going 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: to get a huge pay raise at Penn State or 330 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: he's going to get a huge pay raise going to USC. 331 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: And then I was also told, make no mistake about it, 332 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: every coach wants to be mentioned for this job, whether 333 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: they want it or not. They want to get a 334 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: pay rate, like their agents love this. Like privately, the 335 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: coaches are like, did I get mentioned? Yes, you did? Awesome. 336 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Now go now go to the press conference and act 337 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: like you have no interest in going to USC. What 338 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: do you think? How do you think this plays out? Oh, 339 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent righte about that. And that's one 340 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: thing USC did do by doing us at this point 341 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: in the year. You just gave two months of leverage 342 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: to the agents for these guys, and so you know 343 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: they're going to do their work behind the scenes. If 344 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: they want to get you know, in front of Chris 345 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: Peterson or Bob Stoops, who's not coaching right now, they can, 346 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: but everybody else has got to play coy. As you said, 347 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: be interested while acting like they're not interested. James Franklin 348 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and Luke Fickle, I think are sitting in good positions here. 349 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: You know. I think Franklin would fit very well at USC. 350 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Fickle would be a little bit tougher fit. And he 351 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: also worked with Mike Bone at Cincinnati, and I'm not 352 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: sure he is super anxious to work with Mike Bone. Again, 353 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that a bad relationship, but I'm not 354 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: sure that a great relationship. Yeah, I was told he 355 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to leave the Midwest. Now that what could 356 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: mean a lot of different things, But I was told 357 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: he Fickle didn't want to leave the Midwest. He's a 358 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: Midwest guy through and through. I mean that has been him. 359 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: He's pretty happy at Cincinnati and now Cincinnati, he has, 360 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, putative Power five membership coming with the Big twelve, 361 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: if the Big Twelve can kind of hold on to 362 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: that status. I just don't think he's the kind of 363 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: guy that ever in his professional life thought gosh, it 364 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: would be great to coach at usc whereas a lot 365 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: of other guys I'm sure thought that he's paid forty 366 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated senior writer, he'll be at the Wisconsin Notre 367 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: Dame game. Game is bigger for who, Notre Dame or Wisconsin. Well, 368 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: it's bigger for Notre Dame because they're still undefeated and 369 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: they've proved nothing. They really haven't played very well so far. 370 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: They're three and oh, but it's an unimpressive three and oh. 371 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: This is a chance to beat a pretty good team 372 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: and maybe get yourself playing on a higher level and 373 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: get people to take you a little more seriously as 374 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: a as a national playoff contender. The problem Notre Dame 375 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: scheduled dan is tricky. It's not just the games who 376 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: they're playing, but when they play so many teams coming 377 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: off of bye weeks that they are at a buy disadvantage. 378 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: This is one of them and they're going to keep 379 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: running into that. Cincinnati next week goes off of an 380 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: open date into South ben And there are several others 381 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: throughout the season, just wear and tear and preparation time. 382 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Notre Dames had to disadvantage five different times this season. 383 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: Most disappointing teams so far as who oh boy, I 384 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: would have to say, really, I'd say Ohio State. I 385 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: just I, you know, I thought that they were I 386 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: bought into the belief that they would plug and play 387 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: with these you know, young guys coming in and everything 388 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: would just keep running smoothly. And not that they lost 389 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: at home to Oregon, but they were pretty well outplayed 390 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: in that game. And then you know, to come back 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: and be twenty one twenty against the Tulsa team that 392 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: lost to an FCS team, I'm like, what is wrong there? 393 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: There's just something that's not clicking that I really didn't expect. 394 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I would nominate Clemson, but yeah, maybe I overrated Clemson. 395 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: But DJU has not been Trevor Lawrence two point zero. 396 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: That offense that surprises me a little bit. They still 397 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: pass of the AC see but are they a top 398 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: ten team in your opinion? No, they're not in my 399 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: top ten as of now. They're not, you know that. 400 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean the Grim struggle against Georgia Tech Saturday, that 401 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: was that was really wild to see them struggle to 402 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: score fourteen and barely hold off Georgia Tech at home. 403 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: So they've got issues. What they got also is an 404 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: easy schedule. They could end up being eleven and one 405 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: and not be very good. What happens if Lane Kiffin 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: beats Nick Saban the earth splits open and and like, 407 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, like demons come out. I mean, now it 408 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: would just be h It would be incredibly interesting. I mean, 409 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin is a provocateur. He's been an Eddie Haskell type. 410 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: For those old enough to know who that is, uh, 411 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a guy that loves being a needler, 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: a fly in the ointment. And this would be the 413 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: ultimate you know, sticking it to the SEC establishment and 414 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: to the guy that fired him as offensive coordinator in 415 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: the middle of a playoff. They're gonna have a chance, 416 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: I think. I mean, they're a dangerous team. They're they're 417 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: better defensively and they're really good on offense. Safe travels. 418 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: Who's always great to catch up with you again, Pat, 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Thank you My pleasure, damn thank you. Fox Sports Radio 420 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 421 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot Com and 422 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: within the iHeartRadio app search f SR to listen live. Hey, 423 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Le 424 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: Barrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a 425 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: new podcast called Up on Game? 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Brando Shambleie Golf Channel 434 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: leads studio analyst NBC Sports providing comprehensive coverage of the 435 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup from Whistling Straits. You'll see it on NBC 436 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: Golf Channel Peacock and it starts Friday morning at eight 437 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: Eastern on Golf Channel Brandal Justin Leonard rich Lerner recap 438 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: the action in depth analysis live from the Ryder Cup 439 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: on Golf Channel. Brandal, great to talk to you. Set 440 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the scene. What's the weather going to be like at 441 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: Whistling Straits 's going to be windy, probably a little 442 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: bit chilly. I think it's supposed to warm up a 443 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: little bit tomorrow. But the weather that the players have 444 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: been practicing in is going to switch. You know, the 445 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: winds are going to come out of a different direction, 446 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: but it's going to be brutal, hard golf course, hard 447 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: against it Lake Michigan, and you know, it's going to 448 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: look like an Open championship. When it comes to trying 449 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: to assess both of these teams, we used to always 450 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: look at the Europeans and say they got along with 451 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: each other, like they were friends with each other. They 452 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: would room with each other, and that camaraderie would play 453 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: out in the Ryder Cup. Is that still the case 454 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: with the European team and the United States team? Yeah? 455 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good assessment of things. I mean, 456 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: it's it's hard. It's the hardest puzzle to put together. 457 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Why the Europeans continue to dominate because almost every single 458 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: year they're a pretty big underdog coming in here and 459 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: every facet. But I think by and large, the differences, 460 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: it's not like it doesn't mean anything to the US. 461 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: It does. It means a lot to them. You hear them, 462 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: you seem when they win, you seem when they lose. 463 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: You can tell it means a lot to them. But 464 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: as some Europeans have described it to me, it's life 465 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: and death for the Europeans. It means that much to them, 466 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: and yet they find this perfect harmony between the intensity 467 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: and the levity that you need to play your best golf, 468 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: whereas the United States they play tight and they just 469 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: don't play their best golf. There's several reasons why I 470 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: think they haven't been able to buy in large beat Europe. 471 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: But that's that's one small part of it. Justin Leonard 472 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: last night on the broadcast said that when you play 473 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: on your home turf, it's like one and a half 474 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: or two points, that that's the home course advantage there, 475 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: and he talked about how you have to win. If 476 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: Shane Lowry wins that first match tomorrow morning, then you've 477 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: cut that lead in half. Do you agree with that assessment. 478 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: If you go back in the world ranking era, the 479 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: home field, home course, home country advantage is at one 480 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: and a half point advantage. But you know, momentum comes 481 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: and goes in this it is very ephemeral. The US 482 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: hasn't lost an opening session since two thousand and six, 483 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: and yet they continue to struggle by large. I think 484 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: that you know, the captain needs to impress upon the 485 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: players on the US side if they need to play 486 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: with the same intensity that they would if they were 487 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: at ten six down in singles, try to recapture what 488 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: they that intensity that they had going into the in 489 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: the singles going all the way back to nineteen ninety nine. 490 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I think they have gotten up and I think they've 491 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: relaxed a little bit because on paper they're meant to 492 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: dominate and they get a little bit of a lead 493 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: and Europe has been able to flip it more times 494 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: than nine. What if we traded Bryson to Shambo to 495 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: the European team. I mean, he sounds French, so wouldn't 496 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: that be a better Like we're trying to create drama, tension, 497 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: good TV. Could we trade to Shambo to the European 498 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: team and who would we get in return. That's a 499 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: great question. I don't think we'd want to trade. I 500 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: think he's pretty dark fun. No, no no, no, we have 501 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: to do this. Oh we have to trade. Yeah, we get, Well, 502 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: if we could get. If we could trade Brison to 503 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: Shambo for Victor Hoblin, I think that'd be that'd be 504 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: a heck of a trade. You'd trade the longest driver 505 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: for maybe the straightest hitter here. Victor Hoblin is guy. 506 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: I believe all twelve players on the European side were 507 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: asked who they would like to pair with. All twelve 508 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: or excuse me, eleven of them all said Victor Hoblin. 509 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: So he's that popular Bryson de Shambo's and he's an 510 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: odd guy. I'm not sure many people would want to 511 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: play with him. Who plays golf like him. You're gonna 512 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: end up in spots you've never been in. So I 513 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: think that'd be a pretty good trade for the US. Okay, 514 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: but you bring up the great point. I guess Brooks 515 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: and Bryson are playing nice. Is that good for the tour? 516 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Is that only good for this week? This weekend? Well, 517 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: I've said this, you know, you go back to the 518 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: beginning of the Ryder Cup. Every single European US team 519 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: would have had two players on that team, at least 520 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: two players on that team that didn't like each other. 521 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: This derision on the team between two players is nothing new. 522 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: Social media's around, so we know more about it. A 523 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: little friction on a team is a good thing, and 524 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: any group dynamics saying a little friction is good. You know, 525 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: it lights things up, get a little spark. I don't 526 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the problem here. And yeah, 527 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: to whatever extent, I think they could come together for 528 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: the week they have. They've they've bridged that guy. It's 529 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: not like their mortal enemies. It's not like one of 530 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: the others stole the other's wife for girlfriend. Here. It's 531 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: like one of them plays golf and makes it look 532 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: as difficult as tax codes, and the other one makes 533 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: it look as simple as snowfallen off the log. They're 534 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: just two different people, team golf versus individual golf in 535 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: how you pair like like that. We talk about chemistry 536 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot in sports, but but you know, trying to 537 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: piece it all together, it's like jigsaw puzzles and the 538 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: pieces you put together. How delicate is that? Well? I 539 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: think I think you can overthink it, like for example, 540 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: Sevy Jose Maria all the Thouble, the most successful team ever. 541 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you would have ever put those two 542 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: together and Forceoms. They're both they drove it all over 543 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: the map, both of them. Neither of them would be 544 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: a good Forceoms team, and you put them together and 545 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: you think, well, they're going to be a horrendous Forceom's team, 546 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: and they were almost unbeatable. I think the one thing 547 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: that Europe has done is they either pair like for like. 548 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: In other words, long hitters were long hitters, or straight 549 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: hitters were straight hitters, players that even struggle around the 550 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: green with other players that even struggle around the green, 551 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: or players from the same country or friends. They don't 552 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: necessarily rely on metrics to say, well, this guy hits 553 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: it straight and this guy puts great and you put 554 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: those two together and it's gonna work out. That almost 555 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: never works out, Like for example, you know, Fleetwood mallin 556 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Ari came about likely because those two guys were in 557 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: the Bahamas having a couple of pops. They got a 558 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: little liquored up. They called Bijorn and said, hey, we 559 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: want to play together. Put us together. There's no metric there. 560 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: You put them together, they're like they would out there 561 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: and they just boat raced everybody and it's like, hey, 562 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: you no, why not put together guys and just laughing, 563 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: have a good time together. Randall Shambleie Golf Channel the 564 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup. You can see it starting tomorrow morning eight 565 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: each start on Golf Channel. Are there side bets during 566 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup with like USA versus European players? I 567 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: doubt it. I doubted. I mean, I'm sure going back 568 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: in the days of yr maybe, but I but I doubted. 569 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Wait with Bill Michelson, he didn't have any side action. 570 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: Philm maybe is the exception. Phil might have some side 571 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: action right now. But I think if I'm not mistaken, 572 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they get a lot of literature, 573 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of you about let's not do that. That's 574 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that's not good for the game. Uh So it would 575 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: be certainly on the hush hush that they do. Steve 576 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: Stricker gave an update on Tiger Woods. Um, what was 577 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: your reaction to that update. I'm just the first time 578 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: hearing of it. When when did that happen? I thought 579 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: he was he at the press conference, just talked about 580 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Tiger's health and you know, the road to recovery and 581 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: there that he you know, things are promising. I certainly 582 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't hear the specifics of that. Maybe I was sitting 583 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: on the set getting ready to go, and I had 584 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: chaos in my ear. I was under the impression that 585 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Tiger was going to make some sort of impression before 586 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: the we was out via zoom, some sort of conference call. Uh. 587 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen a little bit of Tiger Woods 588 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: here and there, but I haven't really heard any any 589 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: sort of predictions about him coming back or even the 590 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: state of his injury and how it's healed up. I mean, 591 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: we've seen a little bit of him, but but not much, 592 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: which you know, the fact that we haven't heard much, Um, 593 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't know how to 594 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: take that really. Um. I think was saying his relationship 595 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: with Stricker, that Tiger would probably zoom in tonight to 596 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: talk to the team. That's just a guess. Yeah, yeah, 597 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: I I could see that and that'd be good. I mean, 598 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, the game, missus Tiger. Uh, he's stuck on 599 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: eighty two wins, tied with Sam Sneed you know, does 600 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods have another miraculous comeback, and he's already given us. 601 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: You can add him up. It's three or four, depending 602 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: upon how you count. Two thousand and eight US Open. 603 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: But he's remade himself. I've lost count, so maybe he's 604 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: got one more inning. It would be it'd be great 605 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: for golf, and who knows, maybe his presence will be 606 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: just a spark that this team needs. If I said 607 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: you could have a putt to win the PGA Championship 608 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: or put to win the Ryder Cup four foot put, 609 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: you're standing over the put. You win a major, you 610 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: win the Ryder Cup. Well, I think a US player 611 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: would say the PGA Championship. A European player would say, well, 612 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I think you'd be fifty fifty. But a number of 613 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: European players would say the Ryder Cup. We ha call 614 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Montgomery on our set once. I remember it pretty dark clear. 615 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: It was the US Open twenty thirteen, Marian. It was 616 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: up on our set. It was Novelo up there as 617 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: well with me. And I asked Carl and if you 618 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: could trade all of your Ryder Cup experiences for one 619 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: major championship, would you do it? And he was like, 620 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: not a chance, not a chance, not a million years 621 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: would I do that. The next day, as I was 622 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: sitting on the set, and I'm not gonna say who 623 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: this person is, but a prominent person in professional golf 624 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: came up on our set veins will pop and pointing. 625 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: And the next time somebody says something that poppycock like 626 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: that on that set, you got to call them out. 627 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking? And they said, the 628 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: idea that somebody would trade wouldn't trade their Ryder Cup, 629 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: or would trade their Ryder Cup experience, or wouldn't trade 630 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: their Ryder Cup experience for a major championship is preposterous. 631 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: And I thought, well, that is the difference between Europeans 632 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: and Americans. Europeans it is life or death for them. 633 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: I had a Europeans say it to me yesterday. It's 634 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: not that it doesn't matter to the US. It does. 635 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: It's just life or death for the Europeans, is how 636 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: they've described it. Yeah, but I understand that with Monty 637 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: absolutely from the European side of this. If you, I mean, 638 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: they enjoy this more. It means more to them than 639 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: it does the United States. It just does. And I 640 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: think because of that, Yeah, the US players would want 641 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: to win a major. Where this is we want a major. 642 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: That's the feeling that you would get with the Ryder Cup, right, 643 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean loads and players have one major championships. How 644 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: many have done what I Ian Poulter's done in the 645 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, the Impulter He's won three times I think 646 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: in the United States or on the PGA Tour, he's 647 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: he's one a fair bit and in Europe he's under 648 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: raged or underrated, I would say in that regard, But 649 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: when you look at what he's done in the Ryder Cup, 650 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: he's he's a legend. Sam Torrence never won a major championship, 651 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: He's a legend. Column Montgomery, He's a legend, no doubt. 652 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Col Montgomery got into the Hall of Fame because largely 653 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: what he meant and did in the Ryder Cup. He 654 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: could have not done any of that one one major 655 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: championship and not been in the Hall of Fame. So yes, 656 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: it does mean and Jack Nicholas, I think has summed 657 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: this up pretty well. So has Tiger Woods. Look, you know, 658 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: buying large. You know the better players on the US 659 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: side are such colossally good players with unbelievable records that 660 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: there is no career prestige to be gained from them 661 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: winning a series of Ryder Cups or making the winning 662 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: put it. It doesn't really matter and how they're viewed 663 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: as players, whereas lesser careers they look at a Ryder 664 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: Cup as a chance to enhance their legacy and a reputation, 665 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: and it's worked beautifully, notably more Europeans. Great to talk to. 666 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: You keep stirring it up, have fun. This weekend we'll 667 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: be watching. Thank you Brandon, Thanks Dan. Always pressure