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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dirk Durham. With spring Bear season right around the

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Speaker 1: corner and folks getting ready to set their baits. I

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Speaker 1: thought now would be a great time to air this episode.

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Speaker 1: I recorded this podcast last year in the spring of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, in the great state of Wyoming with

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Speaker 1: my good buddies Cody Wilson and Phelps Game Calls business

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Speaker 1: manager Corey Paulson. Now, we recorded this episode without any

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Speaker 1: fancy podcasting gear. I'm gonna admit it was with my iPhone,

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Speaker 1: so it may sound a little different than normal. So

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Speaker 1: let's dive right into the conversation. All right, with another

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Speaker 1: episode of Cutting the Distance Podcast. This week, I'm the host,

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Speaker 1: Dirk Durham, and I've got a cool couple of cool

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Speaker 1: cats here. We're in the crazy Wyoming back country. We're

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Speaker 1: in a little camper out here, nice and cozy, sitting

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Speaker 1: around a camper table. And on the left, I got

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Speaker 1: Corey Paulson, who is the business manager at Phelps Game Calls.

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Speaker 1: And on my right we got Whiskey Wilson. We got

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Speaker 1: a good buddy, Cody Wilson. Cody advised to come over

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Speaker 1: and do a bear hunt this spring. And Corey kind

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Speaker 1: of planted the seed or something with him at the

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Speaker 1: Western Honting expol last last winter. And here we are,

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Speaker 1: So how'd you do that? Did you like our wrestling

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Speaker 1: him or something or make a bed or what? How

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Speaker 1: did he lose and make him bring us to Wyoming.

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Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer, and I'm more lucky than good

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Speaker 2: in most cases. So I just kind of looked out

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Speaker 2: that Cody lives in this fantastic place with bears that

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Speaker 2: you can bait, and with the fact that Washington State,

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Speaker 2: my home state, has eliminated the spring bear hunt, I

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Speaker 2: I saw the opportunity with the coach Cody, and I just,

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Speaker 2: you know, was one of those folks that realizes that

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Speaker 2: there's only so many places you can hunt spring bears,

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Speaker 2: and knowing that Cody lives here in in Wyoming, I

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Speaker 2: just started asking questions and lo and behold, he's an

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Speaker 2: expert at this spring bear hunting game.

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Speaker 3: Right on.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me give you a little background on Cody.

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Speaker 1: He's a kind of an all around hunter. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's an excellent elk caller, elk hunter, he's a he's

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Speaker 1: a guide, he guides hunters in the fall. Sometimes guys

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Speaker 1: goes out with a lot of friends hunting. He works

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Speaker 1: in the natural gas fields and just a hell of

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Speaker 1: a good guy. Helps out with Phelps in the in

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Speaker 1: the booth a lot of times in the trade shows.

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Speaker 1: He's a good hand, just really good friend. He's been

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Speaker 1: with Jason a few times elk hunting and uh, anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to come over here and.

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Speaker 4: Be hosted by you man. Yeah, no, it's been super awesome.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you guys came. I'm no expert, but it's

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Speaker 4: just fun to get out in the spring and go

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Speaker 4: chase bears.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So Cody, he's been baiting bears for a

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Speaker 1: lot of years and this this spring he's been working

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Speaker 1: hard baiting bears. You know, it's funny. We've been having

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Speaker 1: kind of a talk back and forth that you know,

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Speaker 1: you talk about all sorts of stuff, and and I

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Speaker 1: think there's kind of a sentiment amongst some hunters that, oh,

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Speaker 1: you guys shot a bearer over bait. Oh that was

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Speaker 1: that's way too easy. Why don't you do something that's hard.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you that's kind of like the lazy man's way,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like that perspective is a

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Speaker 1: little bit narrow minded. You know, maybe they see on

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Speaker 1: bait and somebody's you know, shooting it or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: they just don't see all the work that goes on

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But Cody was telling us about we

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Speaker 1: kind of pried it out of him. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you really want to tell us how much work you

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Speaker 1: put into this, where I actually feel pretty bad. He's

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Speaker 1: worked his ass off putting baits out out, starting super early,

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Speaker 1: you know, just as soon as he could. And man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta tell us about that. You tell everybody about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a pretty interesting, interesting perspective, which

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call the least bit lazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it it all starts in the spring, usually March.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm gearing up checking snowmobiles, making sure they're

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Speaker 4: route that I took to get these baits in to

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Speaker 4: and lo and behold. Some of these areas don't let

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Speaker 4: you use anything processed, so you're only real route of

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Speaker 4: stuff like that, but you can't I can't go pick

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Speaker 1: Any of that. But now a lot of people back

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so his his baits over on the other side

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Speaker 4: his bears in the past at least five years, you know,

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Speaker 5: Dog food stuff like that, but they.

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Speaker 4: Just they just don't like it, like they'll leave it

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Speaker 1: So yeah, even dog foods considered a processed food. Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's that's crazy, and it's every state's so weird. You know,

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Speaker 1: all these little nuanced things that that you that you

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Speaker 1: And if you use a barrel, has to be a

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Speaker 1: So back to writing your snowmobile in. He was telling

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Speaker 1: he's he's running these these calves in, you know, whenever

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Speaker 1: And I mean it's not easy, Like he's a kind

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Speaker 4: So I would all these calves that I had stockpiled,

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Speaker 1: a snowmobile. But you're pulling, the pulling the sled. Got it? Gotcha?

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Speaker 4: And the problem with the snow this time of year,

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Speaker 5: Out of it.

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Speaker 4: It's hard on top, but once the sun hits it,

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Speaker 4: sugar and it it's just a wreck, just real rotten. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's just terrible. Yeah, So running calves in there, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a tour. Yeah, that doesn't sound easy

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Speaker 1: at all. So that's early in the season. Now as

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Speaker 1: springtime is sprung, and your calves. See you said you

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Speaker 4: it just strip all the hide right off of it,

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Speaker 5: They get kind of nasty.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like that kind of bait. Baitings for

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Speaker 1: people they I think a lot of times just on

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Speaker 1: the bears just don't live right there on the bait,

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Speaker 1: you know, live in hand in mouth like like they're

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Speaker 1: on some kind of welfare check or something. They kind

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Speaker 1: be consistent or especially big bears. It seems like big

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Speaker 1: bears are not consistently just living on a bait. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of hard to catch those in the daylight hours.

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Speaker 5: Is that kind of what you found? Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know, breeding seasons going on in the spring, so

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Speaker 4: or hanging out or de bait. They'll go off find

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Speaker 5: And breed her.

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Speaker 4: But like big bears, you know, if they do hang

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got big for a reason. And a

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Speaker 4: lot of them bears they'll be nocturnal feeders like you won't.

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Speaker 4: You'll see them once or twice on camera in the day,

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Speaker 4: but you go to aunt them bears and they don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've heard. I hear that cement from a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys. They're putting bait out

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I liked them too. We didn't buy that

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Speaker 5: Mean they get the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That way they don't connect the dots, you know, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as far as the bait goes, it was

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Speaker 2: towards the bait, and and just observed him. You know,

431
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: like I knew I had plenty of time. You know,

432
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: you get excited because that's just normal. We're human. That's

433
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: what we love about hunting is getting excited. So that

434
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: bear went right to the bait. And then there's a

435
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: nice down log, and I was able to, you know,

436
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: just watch him through my scope, and he was walking

437
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: on the log kind of towards me.

438
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Didn't go right to the bait, didn't go to the

439
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: to the.

440
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: That quarter that had already been hanging out that he'd

441
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: been chewing on, and and I realized, you know, he

442
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: was probably gonna steff up that law. So I was

443
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: I was ready for the shot. And mentally, you know,

444
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 2: you you always think, you know, where where am I

445
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: going to aim?

446
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: Right?

447
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: That was my thought process, and we talk about it

448
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: quite a bit because you know it's uh, bears are

449
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: a little different, you know, you want to have a

450
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: different thought uh thought process. You know, their their lungs

451
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: are in a different spot than a than an elk.

452
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: Because we're we're all hardcore el hunter, so we always

453
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: compare things to where you'd aim for an elk.

454
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: So their lungs are a little further back.

455
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: So we've talked you know, kind of like middle middle,

456
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: and then we've also talked you know, maybe about you know,

457
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: a hand hand, you know the size of your hand

458
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: behind the shoulder, you know, a couple of different thought

459
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: processes there. But that was my thought process, was was

460
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: middle middle, and as he came off that log, you know,

461
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: I I uh, you know, squeezed off the shot and

462
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: it felt like a really good shot.

463
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I had a really good rest.

464
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: You know, I'm shooting a three hundred meg so obviously

465
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: plenty rifle for for a bear that they don't need

466
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: a whole lot. And uh, obviously I could tell that

467
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: he had been hit, you know, didn't know exactly where,

468
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: but if everything felt good at that time.

469
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, when you guys first got there, did you

470
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: go over the bait at all? No?

471
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: No, I just we walked to my blind and then

472
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: I just threw my biose up and I was like, yeah,

473
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: it's been hit, you know.

474
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: Okay, that bear came from the right, so probably from

475
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: uphill above the bear the bait.

476
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I had that bear has been on the camera,

477
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 4: and I had him on the camera at noon, so

478
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: I you know, I knew that the time of day

479
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: it was when we got there, and it was freshly hit.

480
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: Like I highly suspected that that bear was still there.

481
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, like he's close, right.

482
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: I think they kind of fill their belly and then

483
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: go and bed down close and maybe even bed to

484
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: where they can watch that bait and in case another

485
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: bear comes in, they want to chase them off. Like

486
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: if a little a little bear comes in, they could

487
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: chase them off or whatever, kind of defend yep or

488
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: maybe watch for the their buddy Cody that brings good

489
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: Eastern drops him off to him.

490
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

491
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: Well, we're still trying to find a bear for me,

492
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, since it's so easy and and you know

493
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: everybody can do it. You know, we've been backing more

494
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: bait in and and uh and it. We just haven't

495
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: had any luck for me yet, which is okay. But

496
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: the weather's been kind of weird, and I'll say rainy

497
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: weather has not been a big producer for for bears.

498
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: For me, I feel like, you know, nicer, clearer days.

499
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: Bears seem to be moving around a little better. They

500
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: don't like they're kind of like me. I don't like

501
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: hunting in the rain, and they don't like hanging out

502
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: in the rain either.

503
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, on top of that, it pushes

504
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: all the scent down that your barrels putting off stuff

505
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: like that.

506
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: But the rain definitely doesn't help, right, Yeah, exactly. So

507
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: tomorrow we're gonna get up We're gonna go check Cody's bait,

508
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: the one that's got the the beef in it. I'm

509
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: gonna go check and see if the bears have been back.

510
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: They hadn't. We checked it this morning. We hadn't seen

511
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: anymore sign there from after Corey got his bear. We

512
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: put our scent all over there and when we were

513
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: getting Cory's bear out of there. So we'll go check

514
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: it and see if any more bears have gotten in there.

515
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: We rebated it, and then we're gonna go back over

516
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: the other side of the mountain where Dan's mate is

517
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: and we're gonna check it again. We're gonna do another

518
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: another some more meth cooking, crack cooking, whatever you want

519
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: to call it, backcountry crack. We're gonna cook in it

520
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: some more of that, maybe pick up some more donuts

521
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: and lucky charms and the bait that sucker again, see

522
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: if we can get another bear to come in come

523
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: back in when we're there.

524
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 5: It was hit.

525
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, we walked into Knight and sat it and

526
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: there'd been a bear there, same type of deal. I

527
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 4: shoved a but sticks in the barrel, so you know,

528
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: they got to pull all them sticks out to get

529
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: to the feed, you know, a six inch hole in

530
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 4: the barrel whatever.

531
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 5: I just feel it full of sticks.

532
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: And then when we walk up to haunt it, I

533
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: can just glass and look.

534
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 5: At the barrel and be like, oh, yeah, it's been hit.

535
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: So there's been a bear there.

536
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: I just we didn't go to the barrel tonight because

537
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: we knew is have the bear crack on it full

538
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: of feed, Like, let's just go haunt it.

539
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. So sometime between wet when we watched that

540
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: that bait the last time and then tonight that bear

541
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: hit it. So we'll try to beat in tomorrow and

542
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: kind of see how it goes and see what happens.

543
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: So as far as a recap, I think, and you know,

544
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I get this sentiment from a lot of you know,

545
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: successful bear baiter type hunter guys that it's not super easy.

546
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: It's definitely not the lazy man's way. You got to

547
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: put a lot of time and effort into baiting your

548
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: bear baiting your bears because you know, if you run

549
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: out of bait, the bears eat it all, they're gonna

550
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: lose interest and leave. So you got to keep that

551
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: thing full. You have to make the time to get

552
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: up there, and a lot of times it's pretty physical.

553
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, we're not like hunting, you know, one hundred

554
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: yards off the road or you know the minimum legal distance.

555
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean we're hiking a bit, you know, enough to

556
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: where if you're hauling any amount of bait in there,

557
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: you know, it does take a lot of efforts. So

558
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: I think it's super fun to bait bears. It's just

559
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: going to take you some effort. Also, best practices figure

560
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: out what your bears like to eat. If they don't

561
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: like if they don't like doug food or they're not

562
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: liking something, don't keep trying to feed them that. Just

563
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: experiment till you find something they like. Be consistent, make

564
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: sure you keep the the bait full, and then like

565
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: be secretive too, Like don't don't go direct from the

566
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: bait over to where you're gonna sit and watch back

567
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: out the same way you came in to the bait,

568
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: and then use a different a different approach to where

569
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: you're going to watch from. Because bears are smart, they'll

570
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: pattern you, just like tails or elk or anything. I mean,

571
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: they're animals, are they're smart. They figure they figure us

572
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: out pretty easy. So any other closing thoughts that you

573
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: could put into Capstone this out Bud.

574
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, go do it if you've got the opportunity, and

575
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: you can bait bears wherever you're at. Springtime super fun,

576
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: super fun to get out, especially after the long winter.

577
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: It's everybody wants to get out. Calvin Fevers like, I

578
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: want to go do some but yeah, it's super fun.

579
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: Like Dirk said, them bears are super smart, so you know,

580
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: use some of them tips and tactics. And I've had

581
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: bears like a big part of the reason I don't

582
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: bait it the same way and hunt it the same

583
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: way as because you know, I've baited baits and walked

584
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: out and I've had bears literally followed my tracks all

585
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: the way back to the road, so they're looking, you know, Yeah,

586
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: there's they smell you, they know you're there, and nerd

587
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: tracking you back to see where you go.

588
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're trying to figure you out. Yeah, exactly. Curious. Yep.

589
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: How about you, Corey, what what's your thoughts on how

590
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: things went this week and and baiting bears in general.

591
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's a really useful tool. I

592
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: think all of us, you know, we just love to

593
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 2: hunt but also we want to get a nice quality animal.

594
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: I think hunting over bait gives you that opportunity, you know,

595
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: you yeah, you can see and observe those animals. The

596
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: interesting thing, you know, when I was this hunt specifically,

597
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, I was able to kind of watch this

598
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: bear through my scope and I had a little white

599
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: patch on him, which you know, Cody hadn't even seen

600
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: yet on his observing, you know, so at least with

601
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: that bait there, you know, I was able to see

602
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: some some little tidbits of things that weren't you know,

603
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: already known. So the bait was you know, allowing that

604
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: animal to stay around. But you know, overall, you know,

605
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: that's you know, just kind of my thought process. But

606
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: I say also, you know, having good friends along, you know,

607
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: the days kind of get long. Here you're sitting for

608
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: a long time, having people that have really like minded attitude,

609
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: They're hard working, you know, be able to kind of

610
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: pick up your spirits and and just kind of pull

611
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: you through. You know, when some of these sets are

612
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: aren't fruitful because you just never know when it can switch,

613
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, And and and it happened real quick for us,

614
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: and and so having having good folks along is a

615
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: big part of that too, So we really appreciate everything

616
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: Cody has done for us, and and uh, it's been

617
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: pretty awesome. And and learning all his tactics too, it's

618
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: just really eye opening and learning that process as well.

619
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know, we've had just the

620
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: best time at bear Camp. You know, we've we've it's

621
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not one of those where you have

622
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: to get up at like three o'clock in the morning

623
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: and you know, hike all day. And I can see

624
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: why some people like maybe poo poo on on baiting bears.

625
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, they're are like, well, guys, you guys aren't like,

626
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: you're not rough in it. You're you guys are standing

627
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: a camp or you're not backpacked in you're not hiking

628
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: miles and miles and miles every day. I mean, And

629
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: that's another way to do it. And that's a freaking

630
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: fun way to do it too. This is just a

631
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: little different way. But man, we've had the best time.

632
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: We've we've laughed, we had so many laughs and good conversations.

633
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: We've had good food, you know, Cody's cooked for us,

634
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: and and yeah, it's just been a blast and uh,

635
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: as far as just baits in general too. Like another

636
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: thing you know I'd like to touch on is is

637
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: with a bait. You know, let's says out comes in

638
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: and you get to observe for a while and pretty

639
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: soon okay, now she's got cubs and he becomes evident.

640
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna gonna hold her, you know, hold

641
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that bears attention a little longer to where maybe you

642
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: see that she has cubs, and that way you don't

643
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to take a South cubs in Wyoming,

644
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: it's it's illegal it is to take a South cubs.

645
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Speaker 1: So sometimes you know, when you're out you know, glassing

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Speaker 1: or you know spot in stock or just insideale bear hunting,

647
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Speaker 1: maybe you don't always see those little guys. You know,

648
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Speaker 1: they're pretty they can be pretty small, and there could

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Speaker 1: be some brush there you don't see them. They're really

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Speaker 1: hard to I've had that happen before where I just

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Speaker 1: I just didn't see the cub until later on. It's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you have to really be careful when

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Speaker 1: you're not when you're not at a bait, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have to be careful either way, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like at a bait and it's kind of like dogs hunting.

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Speaker 1: With dogs too, you can really be sure of your

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Speaker 1: target to make sure you make the right decision.

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Speaker 4: Well, and sometimes them sows wy'll they'll run cubs up

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Speaker 4: trees until they know it's safe or whatever, so you

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Speaker 4: may not even see the cubs till five or ten

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Speaker 4: minutes after you know, so you really, you know, if

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Speaker 4: you suspect it's a sell. I usually encourage people to wait.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'd rather take bores and not shoot, but

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Speaker 4: I encourage people to wait because you never know. Maybe

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Speaker 4: she ran them up a tree and they're just hanging

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Speaker 4: out up a tree, and then she's not gonna let

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Speaker 4: them come down until it's safe.

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, man, I can't thank you enough for this,

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Speaker 1: for having us over, you know, bear hunting. I know

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Speaker 1: you busted your tail a lot to make sure there's

671
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Speaker 1: some baits here, and but it sounds like that's something

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Speaker 1: you do every year anyway, and you love it, and

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Speaker 1: we're just thank you for the opportunity to come and

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Speaker 1: do it, and thanks everybody for listening. We're gonna try

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Speaker 1: to get some more bat baiting podcasts in the cooker

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Speaker 1: here coming up, so stay tuned and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: in the next episode, and the big time