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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Labor Day is next week,

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Speaker 1: so I guess that means we are officially wrapping up summer.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about some summertime specific injuries. First, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about our favorite baseball team, the Philadelphia Phillies,

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Speaker 1: and an emergency surgery one of our star pitchers had

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Speaker 1: to have last week. Then we'll talk about the dangers

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Speaker 1: of hot tubs, the dangers of peeing in the pool,

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Speaker 1: and the phenomenon known as summer penis. All that and

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Speaker 1: more on Tiddy's episode. Let's get started with Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: All right, so two weeks ago he's put on the aisle,

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Speaker 2: which to everybody was like, are you serious because we're

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Speaker 2: doing like pretty good right now, and he's he's like

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Speaker 2: our best picture too, He's their best picture. You know,

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Speaker 2: we used to at least have like Nola last year,

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Speaker 2: but he's slipping a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But like, no, we have good We have good pictures

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Though, yeah, I mean last year this would have been

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Speaker 2: totally fatal to the rest of the season. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's still gonna take it. They're still gonna take a

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Speaker 2: hit with it. But he went on the al for

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Speaker 2: a blood clot and now it came out that he

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Speaker 2: needs surgery for venus theoretic outlet syndrome. What is this?

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Speaker 1: Normally, when we hear that a person has a blood clot,

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Speaker 1: we my first question is why, because normal people that

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Speaker 1: are thirty five years old, like Zakuiller. So when we

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Speaker 1: think about this, like oftentimes people get blood clots that

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Speaker 1: have they might have cancer, or they might have a

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Speaker 1: clotting disorder, they might be on a certain medication that

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Speaker 1: causes their blood to clot, and most commonly that occurs

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Speaker 1: in the deep veins of the legs. And the reason

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Speaker 1: that that is such a it could be really a

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Speaker 1: deadly pathology to have, is because that blood clot could

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Speaker 1: the lungs and it could cause a person to drop dead. Well,

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Speaker 1: a similar thing could happen if you have blood clots

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Speaker 1: in any other area of the body too, And he

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Speaker 1: had one in one of the vessels in his upper arm.

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Speaker 1: Now this is a very unusual location, so you're going

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Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, it's already unusual that he is

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Speaker 1: obviously that is due to something. So I believe they

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Speaker 1: haven't really said this, but I believe that he has

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Speaker 1: a condition that's called Paget Schroeder syndrome, and that is

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Speaker 1: a specific clotting disorder that is seen specifically in baseball

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Speaker 1: players or any kind of athlete that uses their dominant arm.

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Speaker 1: And when you have that, what happens is it's similar

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Speaker 1: he has thrustic outlet syndrome, because what happens is when

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Speaker 1: you're using your arm and you're doing these repetitive throws

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Speaker 1: of throwing balls that are almost one hundred miles an

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Speaker 1: hour all of the time, the scalien muscles of the

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Speaker 1: that those blood vessels and nerves that are going from

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Speaker 1: the chest to the arm, they get squeezed in this

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Speaker 1: it could affect that nerve that's going through there, and

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Speaker 1: it could affect that blood vessel that's going through there.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened in the case with Zach Wheeler,

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Speaker 1: that the blood vessel was getting kind of kinked and

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Speaker 1: eventually it formed clots there. Now, this was considered an

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Speaker 1: But since it only appears to be that his blood

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Speaker 1: It has a more positive outcome. So I'm hoping that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess depending on how the surgery goes,

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Speaker 2: next season. Well, yeah, I mean if you think about

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Speaker 2: in my book for thrust outlet syndrome, and a young

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Speaker 2: was lifting people above her head, right, So this same thing,

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Speaker 2: the repetitive the repetitive motion with the arm, and she

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Speaker 2: from the book. And yes, it will take some a

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Speaker 2: all very like a kind of a stressful situation for

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Speaker 2: his family. I think he just had a baby like

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Speaker 2: a month ago. Yeah, they just had a baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I feel bad for his wife, especially obviously

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Speaker 1: But he'll be fine. I mean, he has the best

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure the organization is stoked because this is

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Speaker 2: the first year of his three year, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't feel so bad for his wife. You

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Speaker 2: I mean, with that money though, he can get the

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Speaker 2: If they get to playoffs next year, if he was

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Speaker 2: for the Field of Dream Games, which is apparently Gabe

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Speaker 1: We'll see. All right, let's talk about these ladies, these

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Speaker 2: All right, So a group of women in their eighties

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Speaker 2: So I was under the assumption, which is I guess

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Speaker 2: But that's not really what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was just having this conversation with someone that

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Speaker 1: hard for us, Like we all had to lift them out, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Gabe, like a fireman had to get him out

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Speaker 1: It just sounds like it was a really scary situation.

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Speaker 1: And then the first responders got there and pulled them

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Speaker 1: their bodies down, which was really smart thinking on their part,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking how hard, you know, depending I

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Speaker 2: of that. I also think it's kind of cool that

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Speaker 1: I thought. I was thinking that too. I was like,

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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't to be able to get him out.

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Speaker 1: Thank god, Gabe was there. I woult to, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this could have happened to anyone. And it's also just

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Speaker 1: important to know as far as the hot tubs too,

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't realize that you're only

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Speaker 1: supposed to stay in them for like twenty minutes. They're

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Speaker 1: very hot, one hundred and mine goes up to one

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Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you how I'd like to sit

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Speaker 1: That's the problem though, and you could really have hyperthermia,

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Speaker 1: and it's really not good to raise your body temperature

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Speaker 1: as like ninety nine degrees, which is still kind of high.

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Speaker 1: But I in twenty minutes, I'm like, you guys got

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Speaker 1: and then go back in because you really, you really

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have children have their body temperature raise that high either.

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Speaker 1: It's it does suck. Listen, Like especially my house because

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Speaker 1: So this journal called Environmental Science and Technology Letters analyzed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but like little like for an adult, it

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Speaker 1: like three, like it might a turd might just slip out.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, they don't. They don't really understand. They don't.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's a newer phenomenon called summer penis, So, like,

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Speaker 1: There's not like much medical evidence for it to say

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Speaker 1: then the balls shrink up. Right. I actually like it's

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Speaker 1: So I have a really cool video. This is like

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Speaker 2: Mean, I truly could not ignore the one quote from

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Speaker 1: It really is women are.

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Speaker 1: Who cares keep people listen? The penis measurement thing is

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Speaker 1: It's actually it's actually bizarre that it's done so many

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Speaker 1: It makes so like more of a man, that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's very important. Hair loss is not important, you know,

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