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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddy, Wrestling with Friends as

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Speaker 1: it's been for the last few years, Wrestling with Freddy

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Speaker 1: as it's known corporately. That's right, I'm a corpo scumbag,

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Speaker 1: just like those mother truckers at WWE. Which we'll get

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Speaker 1: into with me is my co host, Jeff Die. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get into a big week of wrestling. We

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Speaker 1: had Dominic Mysterio getting another victory. We had Cody and

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Speaker 1: seth Rawlins almost coming to blow SmackDown, had Paul Hayman

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Speaker 1: stirring the pot a e W celebrated six years, Samoa

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Speaker 1: Joe stabbed Adam Paige in the back, and Omega Kenny

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Speaker 1: Omega's return the Kallous family adding two new soldiers. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about. Let's start this damn show.

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Speaker 2: And now your main event, introducing the hosts Wrestling with Freddy,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Dyed and Freddy Friends.

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Speaker 3: Tune all right, Jeff, I might have fucked up the

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Speaker 3: cold open, but I'm not going to suck up the show.

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Speaker 1: It's stumbled a couple of times. I don't like stumbling.

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Speaker 1: I don't like stumblings. I like when it sounds clean, clean, clean.

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Speaker 1: The opposite of clean is dirty, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel that WW is doing them dirty right now, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: real dirty. The price hikes are no joke. Attendance is down.

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Speaker 1: Some reports suggest five thousand fewer fans on recent SmackDown

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Speaker 1: shows compared to prior stops. If you don't know, five

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Speaker 1: thousand is a big number. That's not good. Ticket prices

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Speaker 1: are turning into a bit of a barrier, especially for WrestleMania.

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Speaker 1: The get in tickets are absurdly expensive. WWE just announced

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Speaker 1: WrestleMania forty two, that's in twenty twenty six. The pricing

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Speaker 1: is going to range from about eight hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: ringside floor seats. You think this was a Mike Tyson

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Speaker 1: fight in nineteen eighty seven, it's not. The general average

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Speaker 1: ticket price for WrestleMania in twenty twenty five is being

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Speaker 1: cited at about twelve hundred dollars, So that's going to

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Speaker 1: be up one hundred and forty percent over the last

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Speaker 1: ten years. I'm all for companies making money, and I'm

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Speaker 1: all for prices risings as values rise over the years.

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Speaker 1: But TKO and we're going to kind of dive deep

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Speaker 1: into this jet, but I want to get your point

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Speaker 1: of view before I kind of throw a monkey in

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Speaker 1: the wrench here. TKO bought this to make money, not

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Speaker 1: because they like wrestling, not to advance wrestling, not to

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Speaker 1: push wrestling forward, not to get more fans of wrestling,

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Speaker 1: although you could argue they're trying to get Latino fans

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Speaker 1: with the Stephanie Bucket Championship and the pushing of Triple

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Speaker 1: A and Latino wrestlers and storylines and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Everybody he's trying to get that money right now, including

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. But this is getting crazy, dude. Corporate

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Speaker 1: greed used to be in the shadows in the nineties, right,

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Speaker 1: and it took guys like George Carlin to call it

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Speaker 1: out because the rest of us were blind to it,

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Speaker 1: and we'd go, hah oh, that George Carlin, he's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Almost everything that son of a bitch said has come true,

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Speaker 1: which is creepy. It's scary when sci fi writers and

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Speaker 1: stand up comedians are profits that predict the future. But

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Speaker 1: it happens more often than you think. You can ask

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Speaker 1: Philip K. Dick. If you don't believe me, google it.

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Speaker 1: This is just a money grab, Jeff, and I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to throw something at you because I

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Speaker 1: want to know your opinion on this, and then you

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Speaker 1: guys can hit us up on our socials on Instagram

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Speaker 1: if you think I'm crazy or if you think, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, Freddy's been kind of prophetic with some of

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Speaker 1: his business predictions, and maybe he is no Stradamis. I

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Speaker 1: don't think TKO is long for owning the WWE. I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is going to be the owner for

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Speaker 1: the next twenty thirty forty plus years. I think TKO

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Speaker 1: I think they want to make as much money as

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Speaker 1: I think within the next five years, only five years,

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to sell to the Southeast outright,

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Speaker 1: else has predicted that. So remember where you heard it

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Speaker 1: when this deal comes through. And we've been right on

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Speaker 1: business stuff like this before. But I don't think TKO

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Speaker 1: I know people that work at UFC. Wrestling is not

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Speaker 1: So there's not a lot of love there and there's

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Speaker 1: they want to get out of the business. I think

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Speaker 1: that's why they jacked up the prices first of all,

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Speaker 1: then I think they're going to try to sell it

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Speaker 1: to the saudiast Man. What do you think of my

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Speaker 4: I got nothing on your prediction except that I hope

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Speaker 4: you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Me too, By the way, I would be.

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Speaker 4: So annoyed with that But here's the thing. Some people think,

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Speaker 4: that greed is good right everywhere, Yeah, yeah, Gordon Gecko.

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Speaker 4: And then some people think it's bad to be greedy.

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Speaker 4: So those are the two camps. But one thing I

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Speaker 4: will say is that greed is definitely contagious because what

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Speaker 4: happens is once you know these PRIs prices are so expensive,

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Speaker 4: and once these things and then everyone, all the fans

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Speaker 4: ESPN every month. Everyone's all these things. Guess what the

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Speaker 4: second that that starts to become a thing. Now we

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Speaker 4: know they have money, right, I've even heard you say

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Speaker 4: that they got the money. I've heard you say that, Freddie,

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Speaker 4: they got the money, They got the money, they should

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Speaker 4: pay these wrestlers. Well, now the wrestlers start getting greedy. Well, hey,

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Speaker 4: you're making all this money, you know you got to

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Speaker 4: of nine hundred talented men and women who are like,

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Speaker 4: w and then Aw's like, well, you know, we need

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Speaker 4: to start raising our ticket prices, we need to start

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Speaker 4: doing monthly pay per views and all this stuff. It's

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Speaker 4: just this contagiousness of greed. So what like, it's just

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Speaker 4: how corporations work, it's how business works. Things just get

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Speaker 4: So I'm not sure if it's where this is headed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure how it's going to end, whether it

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Speaker 4: be well or good. But if you want these wrestlers

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Speaker 4: treated like the Lebron James of wrestling, that money's got

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Speaker 4: to come from somewhere. And so these guys like at

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Speaker 4: TKO and WWE, they they've got to they screw us

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Speaker 1: You know, the one thing I would push back on

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Speaker 1: are to solidified, bonuses to justify ten twenty thirty forty, yes,

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollar bonuses, No executive of a product should

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Speaker 1: or because Sony produced it. They're going there because Brad

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Speaker 1: love those movies. Nobody went to Tom cruise because Paramount's

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Speaker 1: They don't care who made it. They just care who's

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Speaker 1: And then to a certain degree, deeper down the line,

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Speaker 1: But no one's ever said, oh man, that executive makes

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Speaker 1: it's the same in wrestling, and it's the same in UFC.

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Speaker 1: Their pay model in UFC is to pay these guys,

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Speaker 1: That's why they do those fifty thousand dollars bonuses because

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Speaker 1: They're saying, no, we don't want the prices to go

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Speaker 1: our salaries to go down. Why are you cutting salary

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Speaker 1: when you're making more money. That's crazy. We're the reason

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Speaker 1: you're making more money. Pay us what we're we feel

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Speaker 1: what as long as you want. But that's where I

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Speaker 1: only in it. None of them are in America and

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Speaker 4: You get that? Though?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: What makes you think that that that the money's going

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Speaker 4: to the executives? What makes you think that.

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Speaker 1: Well, in Hollywood, that's how it works. Now. Once the

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Speaker 1: He was making fifty million dollars and I just can't

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Speaker 1: And this is you know what I mean. It's the

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Speaker 1: same executive that canceled the back Woman or back Row movie,

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Speaker 1: insurance gain on it. So you know, these are the

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Speaker 1: And they're in it for the money. They're not in

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Speaker 1: And I've met a lot of executives, I know, heads

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Speaker 1: and they're all pretty much the same, dude. The chicks

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Speaker 1: shall we do? All right? We opened with seth Rawlins

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Speaker 4: No, but this whole this whole segment did remind me

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, for me, it was more it was

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Speaker 1: But we do that too much now. We we're giving

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Speaker 4: Also, all the fans are good. We don't have control.

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about. We've been chanting carrying Cross,

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Speaker 4: We've been chanting La Night. We had to chance see

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Speaker 4: We watched because we like it, but we don't have

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Speaker 1: So we've got them coming to Australia for the impossible

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Speaker 1: match for me to call. I might even abstain from

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Speaker 1: that one. We'll see, even though that's a weak move.

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Speaker 1: Next up the Man, the living Legend, the Mysterio myth

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Speaker 1: Dominic Mysterio, the Intercontinental Champion versus Russef. Thought Russef was

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Speaker 1: gonna beat my guy? Is that what you thought, Jeff Raw?

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Speaker 1: No wrong. As Charlie Murphy would say, rest in peace.

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Speaker 1: Dominic does what he does, Baby, He outsmarted that big

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Speaker 1: dumb meathead tricked him. The ref wasn't looking. He do

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. Man, No blood, no foul, ref

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any f ups in this match, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: All I saw was studley. Dominic Mysterio earned the respect

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Speaker 4: Whoever choreographed this match did fantastic girth. Look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was match of the week, straight up. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The low blow was perfectly secretive enough that like you

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Speaker 1: it's not important. What's important is where it goes from here.

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Speaker 1: With AJ Styles, we had AJ Styles and Dragon Lee

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Speaker 1: On Thursday Show, the USOS defeated the Vision in a

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Speaker 1: He's helping the family. It tips the balance of the

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Speaker 1: I like all the guys in the Vision. I'd call

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00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: you guys scumbags because I'm supposed to, but I think

427
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: you're really cool. But we got the return of Roman

428
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: Reigns in the crowd always gets happy when they hear

429
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: his music. Jeff, how about you.

430
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm happy Rains is back. This is where these guys belong.

431
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 4: You know, I've said this a billion times but to

432
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 4: my buddies, But maybe it's time I say it here,

433
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: I don't need all these wrestlers like just this this second,

434
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 4: they get some success, like I'll be a movie star now.

435
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 4: Can I go be in Spider Man? Can I go

436
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: be in Street Fighter? Can I go be in a sitcom?

437
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: Can I be? It's like, knock it off, your wrestlers,

438
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: your your your abandonment of your original craft so quickly

439
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: is so it's it's gross to me, Like like that

440
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: they'll have something, they'll be like I've always wanted to

441
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 4: be an actor. You're like, well, be a wrestler. That's

442
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 4: how we know you. Maybe you should have sat in

443
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: Studio City, in a crappy apartment and went to a

444
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 4: bunch of auditions over and over. If you wanted to

445
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 4: be an actor, don't use wrestling as your springboard to

446
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 4: be an actor. If that was your dream, What a

447
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 4: cowardly way to get to your dream. I don't like that.

448
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 4: I don't like that how fast they all want to

449
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 4: become movie stars.

450
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: I agree with that springboard thing. I don't like when

451
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: people use one thing to get to another and they

452
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: don't take it seriously. I agree with that, but I

453
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: do what.

454
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 4: I like to think that wrestling was their dream. I

455
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: don't like to think that they that they were like, well,

456
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a movie star, and so I

457
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: did wrestling for a decade. Like that's dumb. I think

458
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: brock Lessner like he just kind of found his way

459
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: into wrestling. I think he wanted to be like a

460
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: UFC guy, or just like he wanted to be like

461
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: a big, strong guy and wrestling was a nice kind

462
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: of like other place for that. But like you didn't

463
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: see rock Lessner immediately being like how do I get

464
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: on the expendables? How do I get on these things

465
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: and leave wrestling every four months for some sort of project.

466
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: Well, what about if the opportunities are coming to you,

467
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: you're not actively seeking the opportunities, and then the opportunity

468
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: comes to you and you're like, oh, that sounds interesting.

469
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: I might like to try that, cause like there's got

470
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: to be room for secondary dreams, right, Yeah. But I

471
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: don't think like Roman Reigns was seeking out Hollywood when

472
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: he got in the wrestling business. I think he was like, yo,

473
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm a lifer, and some opportunities just came his way.

474
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: Brock Lesner had a secondary dream fighting the UFC, so

475
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: he left for a little while did the UFC thing,

476
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, so there's room for secondary dreams. I think

477
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: if the opportunity comes your way, but like you, if

478
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: you're using it and you never planned on being in

479
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: it in the first place, you just using it to

480
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: get to Hollywood, then yeah, that does seem a little if.

481
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: I think I'm just being selfish, if I'm honest, because

482
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: I totally understand that if you were in wrestling and

483
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: having some success and then all of a sudden they're like, you,

484
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: would you like to be in this movie? That's a

485
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 4: very exciting opportunity. But it is annoying to me that

486
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 4: we you know, we'll lose you know Lexi for you

487
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: know what's that girls in it? No Live, We'll lose

488
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: Live Morgan for like a month and a half, and

489
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 4: all everyone's talking about it is she's going to be

490
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: in a movie. She's gonna be in a movie. She's

491
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: gonna I don't care put her in wrestling. I want

492
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 4: to see that.

493
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: What if you were sick at baseball and the Dodgers

494
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: or the Mariners were like, Jeff, we know you're doing

495
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: this comedy thing, but we'd like to invite you to

496
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: spring training and we're taking this seriously, and you've got

497
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: a great shot to make the team, but you have

498
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: to travel with the team. You can't do comedy. Now,

499
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity that came to you because you can

500
00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: hit dingers.

501
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: Then so absurd that I can't even I can't. It's

502
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: but also it's just so like one in con nine million,

503
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: Like I can't even come up with a number that

504
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: that would be a possibility. However, I will, of course

505
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: I would do it, but I would expect people to

506
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: hate me and go, what is this bozo doing out there?

507
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: I don't expect people like Jeff Dye to talk trash

508
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: about me on a podcast.

509
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, when I did that Baseball movie back in

510
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: the day, I had like like fantasies and dreams of like,

511
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, mate, what if like a scout heard that

512
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I was throwing really hard and like came to check

513
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: it out. That would be pretty sick. Granted I was

514
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: not throwing hard enough for anyone to come look, but

515
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: harder than Charlie Sheen. Baby tapped out eighty six eighty six. Baby,

516
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: his pitch was eighty four eighty four, eighty six. Yeah,

517
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: I got up to eighty six miles an hour on

518
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: the gun, bro. But I was young still. I was

519
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: in my twenties.

520
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 4: Mabe, I don't care. That's really hard to do.

521
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Throwing fire, like really hard to do. Yeah, man, that's

522
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: what the This guy his name was Mike Roboto and

523
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: he was in the Mets minor league system as a catcher,

524
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, you're throwing hard as fuck.

525
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: And I was like, really, how hard do you think

526
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm throwing. He goes, we're getting the gun and they

527
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: measured me at eighty four, eighty six and eighty eighty

528
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: two something like that. Yeah, I threw three on the

529
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: gun hard. Your boy can throw hard. I threw really

530
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: hard to Ken Griffy Junior, and he fucking hit it

531
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: out of the fucking ballpark.

532
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: That part checks out for sure.

533
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: And they asked him to hit it to a specific

534
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: part of the field they wanted. They said, hey, Junior,

535
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: they called him. They said, Junior, do you think you

536
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: could hit it over the welcome to Synergy field sign?

537
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: This was back when they played a Synergy and he goes,

538
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, no problem, and I'm standing right

539
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: there and I was like, dude, take it easy, man,

540
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: I'll just say no problem like that. So the first

541
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: pitch I threw him, instead of gas, which I was

542
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: supposed to throw, I threw a change up. He just

543
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: didn't even look at it. He just let it drop

544
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: and it was like, Nah, dude, I'm not falling for

545
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: your bullshit. And so then I threw my hardest pitch

546
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: that I could throw. I don't know how hard. It

547
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: was probably about like eighty two because I hadn't pitched

548
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: in a while. This is we shot this part of

549
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: the movie like a couple months later during the real

550
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: baseball season, and he fucking hit this ball so hard

551
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: it was out of the park before my head could

552
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: whip around to look where it went. And you can

553
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: see it in the movie like when he hits it,

554
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: it literally is on camera for a millisecond and it's

555
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: just crack boom gone. And then we looked and then

556
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: someone threw a ball over this s energy field side

557
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: so it'd go a little slower and you could actually

558
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: see it. But he hit it in the perfect fucking spot. Man.

559
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: That's how good Ken Griffith Junior was and how shitty

560
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: I was, a faceing sorry for the side quest. Then

561
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: we had some Friday Night SmackDown. I'm not gonna lie, Jeff,

562
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: not my favorite episode ever. Wasn't loving the storytelling that much,

563
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: Paul Haymon interrupted, Cody Rhodes tried to put a little

564
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: seed of doubt with him and his bro Randy Orton,

565
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: but it all just seemed a little clunky to me,

566
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: like when you watch a scene that's just not edited correctly,

567
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: Like everyone's doing a good job, but the edits are weird.

568
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: You're like, why is it on this guy's face when

569
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: this guy's talking, and why is it on this guy's

570
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: face when he's talking. It just felt a little warm me,

571
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: So I wasn't that into it. And then the matches

572
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: were sort of like tag team, tag team, tag team,

573
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a really hot show until Sammy's Ain

574
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Baby samyse Ain the blue collar American even though he's

575
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Canadian French Canadian, that is, he wrestled Alistair Black and

576
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be him, It was supposed to

577
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: be my man, what's his face? Uh, Carmelo Carmelo Hayes,

578
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Carmelo Hayes. And then Alistair Black comes

579
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: and steps over him the way Allen Iverson stepped over

580
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Tyron Lou in the fucking finals, just mad disrespect and

581
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, I wrestle, you don't even trip and

582
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Sammy z Ain's like, let's get it on, and they

583
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: had a great match the end, Priest came in and

584
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: so that then it got a little wild and messy.

585
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: But you can see kind of where this feud is going.

586
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: Let me say something now that I mentioned Priest. Have

587
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: you noticed this too or is it just me? When

588
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: he was on Monday Night Raw, whoever was writing for

589
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: him was doing a pretty good job, and I thought

590
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Damian Priest was getting over fairly fairly well with all

591
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: the Judgment Day stuff and all that when he got

592
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: kicked out the Judgment Day. Since he's been on SmackDown,

593
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I haven't really connected to a single promo that he's

594
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: cut backstage or in ring. It's been weird. Dude. It's

595
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: like he's buried and he's not. He's getting segments, they're

596
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: just not I don't think they're powerful enough. And I

597
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to pull good ship off. Man.

598
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on over there.

599
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: I feel like SmackDown in general is the B show

600
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it's very like secondary might because

601
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: it's on Friday night, or like I don't know what

602
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: what why or what? It is a tough it's it's

603
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: a tough watch. It feels like an afterthought compared to

604
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: Raw or any of the ples.

605
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, I totally agree with that.

606
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: Very clunky. It has moments, you know, but for the

607
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: most part you're just like, what is what are they doing?

608
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: Alistair Black looked good And I love what sammy'sz Ain's

609
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: doing with this open invitation for anyone to come out

610
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: and wrestle him for the for the that put belt,

611
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: and that's continuously been good and a great way to

612
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: give other wrestlers who maybe don't have as much eyes

613
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: on a match like a big match.

614
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: Totally what it's for.

615
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: It's helping Sammyzine, it's helping the belt. It's helping guys

616
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: who aren't getting eyes get like a match like the

617
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: couple weeks ago, the dude from NXT that came up

618
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: and had a great match against Sammuzein that was huge

619
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: for him, the guy from Greensboro, North Carolina. But the

620
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: reason I'm saying this is now I'm in my wrestling

621
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: mind going, well, how are they gonna creatively lose this

622
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: match to Sammy's ain because you know that nobody's gonna

623
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: beat him, So it's just kind of going, all right, well,

624
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: how is Alista Blacks dominating this match? How are they

625
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: gonna have him lose? So it's almost like a scramble

626
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: to see how the finish is gonna be.

627
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'm totally with you

628
00:30:50,720 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: on that. All right, you guys, it's AW time time

629
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: for some AEWU because it was the sixth anniversary. Now,

630
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: throughout the night, AW played some highlights of the last

631
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: six years. It wasn't my favorite highlight package, but they

632
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. They've done better though. They've

633
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: had some incredible moments in just six short years. It's

634
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: also important to note how pivotal, or how important rather

635
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: it is to have more than one major promotion in

636
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: professional wrestling. It means more jobs, more money, not just

637
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: for the wrestlers, but for all the behind the scenes people,

638
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: the camera people, the grips, the electricians, the ring builders.

639
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Like all these people, this is their job. It's this

640
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: or their you know, working on a concert for Taylor

641
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Swift and trying to put her in a box and

642
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: nobody can see her get to stage. Who cares? Just

643
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: let her walk the stage. I never understood where a

644
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: hider in a box and sneaker over to the stage,

645
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: like let her just walk like Bruce Springsteen used to do.

646
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Man, nobody cares, nobody cares, Just walk anyway,

647
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: I digress. So six years, Jeff, do you have a

648
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: couple favorite moments from the last six years of ae W.

649
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Mine's when Danielson won the championship and when CM punk debuted.

650
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Those would be my two favorite what about you?

651
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: I don't have like any specific moments, but when I

652
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: was thought of this boy, when I read this question,

653
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: I thought of just how many times MJF has impressed

654
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: me the many chapters of MJF. He didn't change his character,

655
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: he didn't change his wrestling sensibilities, but there's been so

656
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: many different things he's done, whether he's best friends with

657
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: Adam Cole or whether he's feuding with CM Punk. And

658
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: it's just this promo off, you know, just like promo

659
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: to promo each week was amazing. I'm just so impressed

660
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: with MJF. And anytime I think of aw in my

661
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: mind immediately goes to him.

662
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he just did that Tables and Tax match,

663
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: which is bloody and gruesome and gross. And this is

664
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: the same dude that got the fucking kangaroo kickover yah,

665
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the same dude that

666
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: was doing comedy wrestling just a few months ago, maybe

667
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: a year ago with Adam Cole, where he was like,

668
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive out of the ring. No, I'm scared. No,

669
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: you can do it. No, I'm too scared. Like he

670
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: went from doing full comedy wrestling a kangaroo kick where

671
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: he poses like a freaking kangaroo to one of the bloodiest,

672
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: gooriest matches you can do and everything in between. Dude,

673
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: mgff's the man.

674
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: He should have been dynamic for sure.

675
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that should have been. All of My favorite moments

676
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: were MJF moments. I loved when he came out in

677
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: white with seampunk and I was like, Oh, someone's about

678
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: to bleed. Someone's about to bleed, and then they bled

679
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: all over the place. All right, here we go. Wait

680
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: what I'm into blood now? I can't help it. Hangman Page,

681
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Samoa Joe and Hobbes And when he came on the TV.

682
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: I was cooking dinner and my wife goes, holy shit,

683
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: who's that. I was like, that's Will Powerhouse Hobbs Baby.

684
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, that's big. She likes all above dudes.

685
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: So it was Hobbs, Samoa Joe and Hangman Page versus

686
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: the Death Writers, which this time consisted of John Moxley,

687
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Claudio Castick Noley, and Ryan Daniel Garcia. Ryan Garcia is

688
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: the boxer fretting. He's still screwing that up, unprofessional son

689
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: of a bitch. Anyway, the good guys won the match

690
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: as they should. Cloudio took the pin because he's a

691
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: gentleman and he knew that that would protect Daniel, who's

692
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: new to the group, and keep him looking like a

693
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: wild card, and protect Moxley. What a what a kind

694
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: what a kind man taking the fall for the team

695
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: like that. It's a big win. But that was not

696
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: the story, sir. The story is leading up for Wreussell Dream,

697
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: Wressell Dream. Samoa Joe turned on Adam Page and he said, Yo, man,

698
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: you might have beat all these other suckers, but you've

699
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: never beaten me, and I'm gonna beat the champ again.

700
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm to be the child. I'm big ass Samoa Joe,

701
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: and the crowd's gonna scream Joe, Joe Joe. It's the

702
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: only song that I know all the lyrics to in

703
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: professional wrestling, and then they're gonna sing Joe is Gonna

704
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: kill you. I love the crowd when Samoa Joe's out

705
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: there because they love Samoa Joe. I love Samojo in general.

706
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's healthy and wrestling, and I'm excited

707
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: to see these dudes match. And Adam Hangman Page has

708
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: been growing on me, dude, he really has. He had

709
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: that promo in Mexico where he spoke all in Spanish

710
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to do that like that yelling thing, right,

711
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Like his go to is I'm gonna start yelling and

712
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: showing you that I'm passionate about wrestling, and that works.

713
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: But it only works on a couple of lines, right.

714
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: If you keep that going too long, then you have

715
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: to sort of break that up where it becomes monotonous.

716
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: When he was speaking Spanish, he couldn't think to do

717
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: that because he's thinking about the translation. And he came

718
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: off so vulnerable and honest and open and cool, and

719
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: some of that has stuck with him since that promo,

720
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: and I find him a lot calmer in a lot

721
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: of these and he's saving that passion, and like in

722
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: the Kyle Fletcher drama, he's saving that passion for certain

723
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: specific moments where he's like, no, I normally he'd be like,

724
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: I see a lot of me and you from that,

725
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, I see a lot of myself in you,

726
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: but what you need to understand is that you don't

727
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: have one. And then he's going in on him, and

728
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that's super smart. And I like seeing these

729
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: guys grow. I like seeing their talent grow. This guy's

730
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: been a wrestler for a long time, so you can

731
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: teach an old dog new tricks. And I think this

732
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: one kind of happened organically for him. I'm excited to

733
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: see the match. Dude, what about you?

734
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think less is more with that kind of stuff.

735
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: I think he nailed it. Like Jake the Snake never

736
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: like raised his voice in a promo. He was calm.

737
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: It had this like this, this like it. It's just

738
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: people's different acting styles, I guess, but like, if you

739
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: want it to seem realistic, you've got to make it

740
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: seem like I don't know, you know, like the way

741
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 4: you would talk dominic Mysterio's really natural when he does

742
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 4: his stuff. He's never raising his voice or doing a stick.

743
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: And some wrestlers can pull that off, you know, like

744
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: Pauli Hayman is so big, you know, ladies and gentleman,

745
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: but like he pulls it off. But like for some people,

746
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 4: like you gotta find you gotta find where your zone

747
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: is to make it more realistic.

748
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: That's dead on, dude. It took me a long time

749
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: to figure him out. Like I look back at like

750
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: my older work and go, man, I wish I could

751
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: have been more vulnerable. I wish that would have looked

752
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: more honest. And I was in my forties when I

753
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: figured it out, and I'm.

754
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: Still figuring it out. It's a pace, it's like a rhythm.

755
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: It's a pause. Sometimes it's it's a volume. There's a

756
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: lot of little ways to dial it in. I one

757
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: hundred percent agree with what you said about Adam Hangman

758
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: hanging at a page about like the shouting came off

759
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: like nervous almost, but like.

760
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: Totally I totally agree.

761
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: And that's not as convincing. But you need so you know.

762
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: So anyways, I love what he's doing now and I

763
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: think he I think he's sky's the limit for him.

764
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: He's my favorite.

765
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Kenny Omega made his return. Him and Broddo defeated Josh

766
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Alexander and the Young Buck. It was poor Young bucks

767
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: man had it They have a tough They have it tough.

768
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: They gambled all their money away, so now all that

769
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: cash has gone. I felt so bad, and you knew

770
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. I would have liked to have

771
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: seen in that package that they shot some of the

772
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: losses so that it would help tell that story a

773
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: little bit better when he's just standing there at the

774
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: end with the empty bag, if I'd have shot that,

775
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: That's how I would have done it. But I still

776
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: thought it was really funny, and I think they're doing

777
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: a good job with their characters right now and helping

778
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: them grow, going from scumbags to like humbold Anyway, that's

779
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: not the story. After the match, guess who returned not

780
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: to be a nice guy, not to welcome Kenny Omega back,

781
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: but to hit him with his finisher, And that was

782
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: freaking andrade Elle well yet not I was gonna say

783
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: El Clone, but he's Eli Dolo El Clone is also

784
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: in the Don Kallis family now, but we'll talk about

785
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: that later, or maybe we won't. But Andrede's back. He

786
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: took the mask off, he's got the long hair, he's

787
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: got the body beat him up. And the most important

788
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: part is he joined the Callous family and has Don

789
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: Callous speaking for him. Now, this is what Andrede has

790
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: needed since day one. Day one in WWE, he needed

791
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: a manager. He had one, Selina Vega. She crushed it.

792
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: They took her away from him all of a sudden.

793
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't able to communicate story except inside the rings stories.

794
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: His English wasn't wasn't strong enough to be able to

795
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: get a shit over, and for whatever reason, they wouldn't

796
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: do subtitles and let him speak Spanish. Having Don Kallus

797
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: in your corner is like having Teddy Atlas in the

798
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: nineties in your corner. If you're a boxing fan, it's

799
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: like having Mick if you're a movie fan from Rocky

800
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: saying this little angel on your shoulder, and anytime you

801
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: go down, he's gonna say, cut up, your son of

802
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: a bitch, because Mickey loves you. That's Don Kallus only

803
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: he's going to talk for Andrede. He's gonna put Andrede

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: over big time every single week, and this will be

805
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: the chance for him to get over finally in between

806
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: his WWE and AW runs. And I think think it

807
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: could work. Dude, what did you think?

808
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: I don't have many thoughts on any of this, Andrade

809
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: being back in AW, I am. I'm puzzled. You know,

810
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: it was he was what two weeks ago he was

811
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: in w Yeah, so it's very strange. Also, I just

812
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: don't know what they're going to do with this, you know,

813
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: I think you said it or maybe I'm just reading it,

814
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: but maybe both. But like, the Callous Family is growing

815
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: like the nWo. That's a that's a dangerous idea. The

816
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: nWo was one of the greatest things that ever happened

817
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: in wrestling, but it just grew too much. It was

818
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: not exclusive to be in the nWo. It was after

819
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: a while everyone was in the endview, You're like, you're

820
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: like Lex Luger, the company guy is in the nWo.

821
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: You know, like if you had everybody like in there

822
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: so much so that it became like, well, now there's

823
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: the red nWo, and now there's the White nWo, and

824
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 4: then there's the Original wolf Pack nWo. There's so many

825
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: different little factions of the action that it became very confusing.

826
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: So the Callous Family, it's you know, I hope that

827
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: it succeeds more than the Chris Jericho group that they made.

828
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: You know, it seems the Appreciation Society. Yeah, yeah, it.

829
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: Feels kind of like that in my opinion. But I'm

830
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: you know, I'm here for it. I'm watching still, so

831
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: I you know, we'll see what we'll see what happens.

832
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Finally, we had Kyle Fletcher and Orange Cassidy. We got

833
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: another member to the Callous Family. I'll clone the fake hologram,

834
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: and he effed up the finish, not like screwed it up,

835
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: but he effed it up for Orange Cassidy and Kyle

836
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: Fletcher got to win on what was a pretty good

837
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: match until the till the end. So to wrap up,

838
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: you guys got a long show today. You guys are

839
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: usually like men, it's thirty minutes of commercials, two minutes

840
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: of action. Well this time you got like forty minutes

841
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: of commercials and one minute of action. Oh in your face.

842
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: So anyway, Monday Night, ra gave us Roman Reigns his return,

843
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Cody versus Rawlins is starting to boil over. SmackDown teased

844
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: a little Cody and Orton implosion via Paul Hayman, and

845
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: we had six years of Dynamite. We end up with

846
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: Page versus Joe, Omega versus the Kallus Family, and some

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Speaker 1: more TNT title shenanigans. They're loading up for wrestled Dream,

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Speaker 1: which we will predict next week and wrestling. You know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the best week in wrestling, but we still

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Speaker 1: do predictions on Crown Jewel on Behalf of Jeff Die,

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